[I. Call to order]
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MEMBERS. WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING FOR MONDAY, MAY 18TH, 2026. CAN I HEAR THE ROLL, PLEASE, MR. KIRBY? MR. WALLACE. PRESENT. MISS BRIGGS HERE. MR. LARSEN, DOCTOR SEGAL. PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER. WILTROUT. PRESENT. HERE ARE FOUR VOTING MEMBERS PRESENT. WE HAVE A QUORUM. TAKES US TO ACTION ON THE MINUTES FROM
[III. Action on minutes: April 20, 2026]
APRIL 20TH. ARE THERE ANY CORRECTIONS TO THE MINUTES FROM APRIL 20TH? MEETING? NONE FOR ME NOW. OKAY. DO I HEAR A MOTION ON THE MINUTES? I WILL MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM APRIL 20TH. DO I HEAR A SECOND? SECOND AND DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? A QUICK NOTE. LET ME CHECK WITH LEGAL STAFF. EVEN IF YOU WEREN'T AT A MEETING, YOU COULD VOTE ON THE MINUTES OF THE MEETING, CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY. AND FOR THE REASON WHY I BRING THAT UP IS THAT IF ONLY THE TWO OF US WHO WERE HERE VOTE YES, THE MOTION WILL FAIL FOR LACK OF A MAJORITY. YOU YOU CAN VOTE EVEN IF YOU WEREN'T HERE ON THE MINUTES TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION ON THE MINUTES FROM APRIL 20TH? OKAY.
THE ROLL PLEASE. MR. KIRBY? YES, MISS BRIGGS. YES. DOCTOR. SEGAL. YES. MR. WALLACE. ABSTAIN. THE MOTION PASSES. THE AYES HAVE IT. THERE ARE THREE VOTES TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS
[IV. Additions or corrections to the agenda]
SUBMITTED. ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO THE AGENDA? NONE. OKAY. WOULD EVERYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION TONIGHT PLEASE RISE? YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? THANK YOU. AND LET'S ALL CHECK THAT OUR PHONES ARE IN SILENT MODE.ITEM FIVE IS HEARING OF VISITORS FOR ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. AND I WILL NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT BRUCE HAS JOINED US. OKAY. ARE THERE ANY VISITORS? OKAY. TAKES US TO
[VI. Cases]
OUR CASES. OUR FIRST CASE IS CONDITIONAL USE. 26 2026 BATCH PLANT CONDITIONAL USE. CAN WE HEAR FROM STAFF, PLEASE? YES, SIR. GOOD EVENING, BOARD MEMBERS. THIS APPLICATION IS FOR CONDITIONAL USE TO ALLOW AN EXISTING TEMPORARY BATCH PLANT TO BE UTILIZED FOR OFFSITE HAULING. FOR PHASE THREE OF THE PROJECT THAT IS LOCATED ABOUT THREE AND THREE QUARTERS OF A MILE ON CLOVER VALLEY ROAD AND AN EXTENSION TO ALLOW OPERATION UNTIL DECEMBER 2028. SO HERE'S THE EXISTING BATCH PLANT SITE JUG STREET HERE IN CLOVER VALLEY, RUNNING NORTH AND SOUTH.HERE IS THE BATCH PLANT SITE IN RELATION TO PHASE THREE, WHICH THEY WILL UTILIZE. THIS SITE, WHICH IS AN EXISTING TEMPORARY BATCH PLANT AND HAUL READY MIX MATERIAL TO THIS NORTH PHASE THREE SITE. JUST THINGS TO NOTE. IT IS THE SAME OWNER AND PROJECT. IT'S JUST ANOTHER PHASE OF THE OVERALL PROJECT. SO HERE'S THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN. THE PLAN SHOWS THE LOCATION OF THE BATCH BATCH PLANT ON THE PARCEL AND LOCATIONS OF AGGREGATE PILES.
NOTHING HAS CHANGED FROM THE PREVIOUS APPROVAL FROM CONDITIONAL USE 38 2025, WHICH WAS APPROVED LAST YEAR. AND HERE ARE THE CONDITIONS FOR THE APPLICATION. ANOTHER THING TO NOTE THERE WERE NO ENGINEERING COMMENTS FOR THIS APPLICATION. AND I'M HEARING. SO THE APPLICANT. OKAY ANYTHING FURTHER FROM THE APPLICANT. OKAY. HEARING NONE. QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION. OKAY. I MOVE FOR ACCEPTANCE OF OH GO AHEAD. I'M SORRY. SORRY.
THE SITE DESCRIPTION AND YOU SAYS THAT THE RESIDENTIAL USES ARE LOCATED NORTH OF THE SITE WITH A MINIMUM OF 200FT FROM THE USE. SO IS THAT 200FT FROM THE BATCH PLANT? IS IT FROM THE PROPERTY LINE OR IS IT FROM THE AGGREGATE. SO FROM THE BATCH PLANT ITSELF. SO THE BATCH PLANT WAS LOCATED HERE. I'LL SHOW THE SITE PLAN. IT'S LOCATED HERE. AND THEN THAT RESIDENTIAL USE WELL IS UP HERE I BELIEVE. CORRECT. YEAH. AND HOW FAR ARE THOSE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES FROM THE AGGREGATE PILES. I DON'T KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT I CAN LOOK INTO
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THAT FOR YOU. OKAY. DO WE KNOW HOW TALL THOSE PILES ARE? I DO NOT, BUT IF THE APPLICANT IS HERE, IF HE HAS SOMETHING TO SPEAK TO IT, CAN APPLICANT CLARIFY THAT? I'M SORRY. COME TO THE MIC. MY HEARING AIDS ARE IN THE DISTRIBUTION CENTER, SO TO SPEAK. SURE. CAN YOU COME TO THE MIC, PLEASE? YEAH. THE I'M REFERRING TO THE AGGREGATE PILES. HOW TALL ARE THEY? THE MATERIAL STOCKPILES. YES, PROBABLY 1520FT. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE A 8 OR 10 FOOT SCREENED FENCE BETWEEN THEM AND CLOVER VALLEY. OKAY. AND IS THE TEN FOOT FENCE ENOUGH TO SUPPRESS THE DUST FROM A 15 TO 20 FOOT PILE? I'M SORRY, CAN YOU REPEAT THAT? THE PILES WET ITSELF HAS A DUST CONTAINMENT SYSTEM. OKAY. VERY LITTLE DUST THAT IS EMITTED. OKAY. YEAH.THANK YOU. THERE'S ONE MORE THING TO NOTE, DOCTOR SEGAL. THESE PROPERTIES ARE IN IN PROCESS OF BEING ANNEXED INTO THE CITY AND REZONED AS WELL. OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW. COULD YOU GIVE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD INTO THE MIC? SURE. JAMES ALBERTSON. OKAY.
THANK YOU. I MOVE FOR ACCEPTANCE OF THE STAFF REPORT AND RELATED DOCUMENTS INTO THE RECORD FOR CONDITIONAL USE. 26 2026. DO I HEAR A SECOND ON THE DOCUMENTS MOTION I SECOND? AND DISCUSSION OF THE MOTION FOR THE DOCUMENTS. OKAY. THE ROLL PLEASE, MR. KIRBY. YES, DOCTOR.
SEGAL. YES. MISS. BRIGGS. YES. MR. LARSON. YES. MR. WALLACE. YES, YES. HAVE IT WITH ALL VOTES TO ADMIT THE DOCUMENTS. IS THERE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO HAS ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS BEFORE WE TAKE A MOTION? DO I HEAR A MOTION FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE ITSELF? I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE CU-26-2026. BASED ON THE FINDINGS AND THE STAFF REPORT WITH THE CONDITIONS LIFTED AND LISTED IN THE STAFF REPORT SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL. SO THERE ARE SIX CONDITIONS. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING ADDITIONAL. DO YOU WANT ME TO READ THEM? NEIL? THEY'RE IN. WE'VE GOT THEM. THANK YOU. DO I HEAR A SECOND? I SECOND. A DISCUSSION OF THE MOTION TO THE ROLL, PLEASE, MISS BRIGGS. YES, DOCTOR. YES. MR. LARSON. YES. MR. WALLACE.
YES. MR. KIRBY. YES, THE AYES HAVE IT. THE MOTION PASSES WITH ALL VOTES TO GRANT THE CONDITIONAL USE. GOOD LUCK. THIS TAKES US TO FP L 28 HAMLET. PHASE THREE FINAL PLAT. CAN WE HEAR FROM STAFF, PLEASE? YES. ALL RIGHT. SO WE ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT PHASE THREE OF THE HAMLET PLAT. SO THE SECTION HERE IN YELLOW YELLOW SPECIFICALLY IS WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT. SO OVERVIEW FOR THIS PLOT IT DOES INCLUDE 17 RESIDENTIAL LOTS, TWO PUBLICLY DEDICATED STREETS AND TWO RESERVES. WE HAVE RESERVED J OVER HERE AND RESERVE I OVER HERE AND THEN BLUESTEM TRACE RUNNING THIS WAY, WHICH IS A NATIVE ORNAMENTAL GRASS. AND THEN ACER LANE WHICH IS GOING UP THIS WAY, WHICH IS THE LATIN NAME FOR A MAPLE TREE. SO THEY'RE STAYING ON THE THEME OF THE NATIVE PLANT SPECIES FOR THE STREET NAMES. AND THEN AS REQUESTED, LAST TIME WE DID PULL THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN UP TO SHOW THE COMPARISON, WOULD WOULD LIKE TO CALL OUT THAT THE PROPOSED PLOT DOES HAVE TWO LESS RESIDENTIAL LOTS THAN THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN HAS, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, EVERYTHING IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WAS APPROVED WITH THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. THERE'S ONE LESS ON THIS SIDE AND THEN ONE LESS IN THIS FIRST LITTLE SECTION HERE. SO. AND THEN CONDITIONS THAT WE HAVE ARE ONLY FROM THIS ENGINEER. SO I WILL LET THEM SPEAK TO THAT ONE, BUT THEY'RE LISTED ON THE SCREEN JUST IN CASE YOU WANTED TO SEE THEM. AND THEN I'M HERE AS WELL AS THE APPLICANT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. OKAY. ENGINEERING. YES WE HAVE FOLLOWING COMMENTS. PLAT SHOULD BE REVIEWED BY FRANKLIN COUNTY ENGINEER'S OFFICE. IN THE SUMMARY OF THE ENGINEER'S COMMENTS AND THE APPLICANT'S RESPONSE BE PROVIDED FOR. OUR RECORDS SHOW THE SUGAR RUN FLOODPLAIN AND THE STREAM CORRIDOR PROTECTION ZONE ON THE PLAT. ADD FLOOD PROTECTION ELEVATION TABLE FOR ALL LOTS IMPACTED BY THE FLOODPLAIN. PROVIDE DRAINAGE EASEMENTS AND ALL SIDE AND BACKYARD SWELLS. AND WHERE STORM SEWER EXTENDS OUTSIDE OF THE RIGHT OF WAY INCLUDE INCLUDING UNDERGROUND DETENTION STRUCTURES. THANK YOU. CAN WE HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT?
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MR. BROWN? I'M A LITTLE SHORT AND I'M WEARING HEELS. JOSH BROWN WITH THE AGENCY. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING MORE TO ADD FROM THE STAFF REPORT. IT'S VERY COMPLETE. ANY CONFLICT WITH THE CONDITIONS? NO. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION? THE LOTS ARE RELATIVELY SMALL, RIGHT? SO SORRY. THANK YOU. THE LOTS ARE RELATIVELY SMALL. HAVE YOU GUYS LOOKED AT LIKE WHAT THE FOOTPRINT OF THE HOUSES WOULD BE? YES. THE DEVELOPER IS ACTUALLY ALREADY STARTED TAKING A LOOK AT WHAT CUSTOM HOUSES WOULD FIT ON THERE. MOST OF THE HOMES WOULD HAVE AT LEAST WHAT THEY'VE ASSUMED RIGHT NOW. MOST OF THEM WOULD HAVE A LONGER DRIVEWAY THAT WOULD EVEN GO TO THE BACK TO GET TO THE GARAGE. SO BUT STAGGERED INTO DIFFERENT, BUT THEY'RE ALL GOING TO BE CUSTOM, SO I CAN'T GUARANTEE WHAT IT WOULD BE. BUT THEY HAVE ALREADY LOOKED INTO IT. OKAY.SO LIKE, SO THE, THE LOTS ON THE LEFT, FOR INSTANCE, THAT ARE AGAINST THE ADJACENT PROPERTY, THOSE HOUSES WOULD BE FRONT LOADED PROBABLY THOUGH BECAUSE OF THE OR WOULD THEY STILL HAVE THE DRIVEWAY BEHIND? THEY WOULD BE FRONT LOADED OFF OF THE SMALLER STREET. YEAH, YEAH. AND THEN THE HOUSE WOULD PROBABLY GO BACK PRETTY CLOSE TO THE SETBACK. I THINK MAJORITY OF THESE ARE GOING TO HAVE ATYPICAL FOOTPRINTS. SO I MEAN, SOME WILL BE UP AGAINST THE SETBACK. SOME WILL HAVE A JOG HERE OR THERE. YEAH. I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT LIKE WHEN THESE GET BUILT AND PEOPLE COME IN AND WANT TO DO SWIMMING POOLS AND TRELLISES AND OH YEAH, WHAT ARE WE UP AGAINST WHEN WE GET THERE? AND THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THE QUESTIONS.
ABSOLUTELY. IF I WAS AN ARCHITECT, I'D BE ABLE TO MAYBE GIVE YOU A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION. OKAY. YEAH. SO WHEN YOU GUYS ARE SELLING THESE, I'M ASSUMING YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE IT CLEAR ABOUT THE SETBACKS AND ABSOLUTELY, WHAT'S ALLOWED OR NOT ALLOWED WON'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE. THAT'S RIGHT. AND THEN THE OWNER WILL GET LOOSE WITH IT. YES, YES.
OKAY. REALLY. DO WE HAVE SIDEWALKS ON THE BLUESTEM? AND YES, THERE WILL BE A SIDEWALK ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF BLUESTEM ALONG THE ENTRY ROAD PORTION. THEN THE SIDEWALK WILL CONTINUE ALL THE WAY TO THE END OF THE ROAD ON THE WEST SIDE, WHERE WE HAVE ACER LANE, THERE WILL BE AN INTERNAL SIDEWALK THAT WILL BE AROUND LOTS 54 THROUGH 63 IN THAT INNER LOOP. AND THEN THERE WILL ALSO BE A SIDEWALK ALONG THE FRONT OF 50 TO 53. AND THEN ADDITIONALLY, THAT'S NOT PART OF THIS ACTUAL SUB AREA. THERE'S THE OTHER SUB AREA THAT'S GOING TO HAVE THE LEISURE TRAILS TO CONNECT EVERYTHING TOGETHER. THANK YOU. AND WHAT IS THE INTENDED USE FOR THE RESERVE TO RESERVE AREAS? I BELIEVE THAT THEY'RE JUST OPEN SPACE AT THIS POINT.
THERE'S NOT ANYTHING INTENDED TO GO IN THOSE RESERVES AT THIS POINT. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WITH ANY QUESTION OR COMMENT? NO HEARING. NONE. I MOVE FOR ACCEPTANCE OF THE STAFF REPORTS AND RELATED DOCUMENTS INTO THE RECORD FOR FPL 28, 2026. DO I HEAR A SECOND ON THE DOCUMENTS MOTION? I SECOND? ANY DISCUSSION OF THE DOCUMENTS MOTION? CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE, MR. KIRBY. YES, YES, MR. WALLACE. WAS ME? YES. SORRY. YES. I THOUGHT WHEN THAT MR. LAWSON SEQUENCE WHEN I WAS LAST. SO. MISS BRIGGS. YES, YES. HAVE IT WITH ALL VOTES TO ADMIT THE DOCUMENTS WHICH TAKES US TO THE FINAL PLAT ITSELF. WE'RE STRAIGHT ON THAT. DO I HEAR A MOTION FOR THE FINAL PLAT? I MOVE TO APPROVE FINAL PLAT APPLICATION. FPL292026. BASED ON THE FINDINGS IN THE STAFF REPORT, WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE STAFF REPORT SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL. DO I HEAR A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. AND DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION ON THE FINAL PLAT TO THE ROLL, PLEASE. MR. DOCTOR. EXCUSE ME. YES. MR. LARSON. YES. MR. WALLACE. YES.
MR. KIRBY. YES. AND MISS BRIGGS. YES, YES. HAVE IT WITH ALL VOTES TO GRANT THE FINAL PLAT.
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GOOD LUCK. BRINGS US TO DONATOS. SORT OF. SO. FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN 31, 2026. CAN WE? FROM STAFF. YES, ABSOLUTELY. THIS IS A REQUEST TO EXTEND THE APPROVAL FOR A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR A DONATOS LOCATED GENERALLY SOUTHWEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF SMITHS MILL ROAD AND BEACH ROAD. SO THIS IS THE PARCEL LOCATED IN THE BUSINESS PARK. IT IS ACCESSED FROM SMITH'S MILL ROAD AND YOU SEE RIGHT HERE FROM 161. IT IS IN THE BEACH CROSSING. INFILL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT ZONING DISTRICT AS PLANNING COMMISSION REQUESTED, CITY STAFF CONDUCTED RESEARCH INTO HOW OTHER COMMUNITIES HANDLE FTP EXTENSIONS AND CITY COUNCIL DID JUST APPROVE OUR CITY CODE AMENDMENT BASED ON THAT RESEARCH. THAT INCLUDES A STRUCTURED EXTENSION WITH DOCUMENTED JUSTIFICATION, AS OUTLINED HERE AND IN THE STAFF REPORT. SO THE APPLICANT MUST MEET ONE OF THE FOLLOWING WHEN REQUESTING THIS ONE TIME EXTENSION OF APPROVAL. THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS FOR A MULTI-TENANT BUILDING WITH A DONATOS RESTAURANT AND DRIVE THRU. THIS WAS APPROVED IN JUNE OF 2024. THERE HAVE BEEN NO CHANGES TO THE PLANS, NO CHANGES TO THE STAFF REPORT OR TO THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.THIS IS A KIND OF SIDE BY SIDE FOR CONTEXT OF THE SITE AND HOW IT'S LAID OUT. THERE IS A RIGHT IN, RIGHT OUT ACCESS POINT ON THE WEST SIDE HERE, AND A STANDARD ACCESS POINT ON THE SOUTH SIDE HERE, ALL TO BEACH CROSSING. AND THIS SMALL ROAD IS UP ON THIS SIDE. THE DRIVE THROUGH SPACE IS HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE HERE AS WELL. AND HERE ARE JUST SOME RENDERINGS KIND OF SHOWING THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN OF THE AREA. IT IS DESIGNED AS WELL. IT THEY ARE ALLOWED ONE SIGN PER TENANT FOR PER FRONTAGE. SO WITH THREE TENANTS AND TWO ROAD FRONTAGES, THEY ARE ALLOWED SIX SIGNS IN TOTAL. YOU CAN SEE THE THREE ON THE FRONT OR THE REAR HERE AND THE THREE ON THE FRONT RIGHT HERE. AGAIN, THE CONDITIONS DO REMAIN THE SAME AS THE LAST TIME. AND SO THESE ARE JUST CARRIED OVER. NOTHING HAS CHANGED, BEEN ADDED OR TAKEN AWAY. HERE. I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY ENGINEERING COMMENTS REMAINED THE SAME SINCE THE PRIOR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, BUT I CAN REPEAT THOSE COMMENTS IF YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE ME TO.
THAT'S ALL RIGHT. AND JUST MAKE SURE NOTHING'S NO NEED TO. ALL RIGHT. AND FROM THE APPLICANT.
FIRST OFF, I TAKE IT THERE'S NO CONFLICT WITH THE CONDITIONS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU HAD BEFORE, CORRECT? YES. PART OF BEING AN ARCHITECT. 2231 MCCOY ROAD, COLUMBUS, OHIO. 43220. A COUPLE PIECES OF INFORMATION TO ADD. WE HAVE COMPLETED SITE ENGINEERING DRAWINGS AND THEY ACTUALLY HAVE BEEN APPROVED FOR JUST WAITING TO GO TO THE PRE-CONSTRUCTION MEETING. AND FULL ARCHITECTURAL AND ENGINEERING ON THE BUILDING HAS BEEN COMPLETED. AND WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR AUTHORIZATION FROM THE OWNER TO SUBMIT FOR A BUILDING PERMIT. THE REASON I MENTION ALL OF THIS IS THERE'S DEFINITE COMMITMENT ON THE OWNER'S SIDE TO CARRY FORWARD WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT. THE TIMING JUST HASN'T BEEN RIGHT YET. AND RATHER THAN ALLOW THE PREVIOUS APPROVAL TO EXPIRE AND COME BACK AND REAPPLY, KNOWING THAT THERE'S THIS ONE YEAR WINDOW, THEY ARE VERY HOPEFUL THAT THIS WILL GET STARTED IN THIS NEXT YEAR. OKAY. ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC, ANY QUESTION OR COMMENT? COMMISSION MEMBERS? CAN YOU GO AHEAD, DAVE? WHO'S GOING? SO CAN YOU STATE SPECIFICALLY WHAT THE BASIS IS FOR THE REQUEST FOR AN EXTENSION? BECAUSE THE ORDINANCE SPECIFICALLY SAYS THAT YOU NEED TO MEET ONE OF THE CONDITIONS THAT'S SET FORWARD IN THE ORDINANCE. SO AS DESCRIBED IN OUR MEMO, WE WOULD RELATE THIS TO THE FINANCIAL CATEGORY AND NOT FINANCIAL FROM THE OWNER'S SIDE, BUT FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THE DEVELOPMENT AND ITS ABILITY TO BE SUCCESSFUL. THIS DEVELOPMENT IS PURELY SERVICE ORIENTED AND WILL BE FUELED BY THE CUSTOMERS THAT ARE NEARBY. SO THE STALL AND ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA HAS CAUSED THEM TO BE NERVOUS ABOUT NOT ONLY BUILDING THEIR OWN STORE, BUT HAVING TWO OTHER TENANT SPACES WHERE MAYBE THOSE BUSINESSES CAN'T BE SUPPORTED BY THE VOLUME OF TRAFFIC THAT'S OUT THERE RIGHT NOW. IT'S NOT A DESTINATION PLACE ON ITS OWN, SO IT'S GOING TO RELY ON THOSE IMMEDIATELY AROUND THEM. OKAY.
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THANK YOU. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE PARKING FLOW. AND LAUREN, COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE THE.YEAH, EXACTLY. SO COULD YOU JUST KIND OF WALK US THROUGH IF SOMEBODY WAS COMING IN TO USE THE DRIVE THROUGH, WHAT, HOW YOU WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THEY NAVIGATE THE DEVELOPMENT. SO TWO ENTRANCE POINTS HERE AND HERE, EITHER OF WHICH CAN CIRCUMVENT THE ENTIRE BUILDING TO GET INTO THAT QUEUING. SO ONE COMES IN AND THIS RIGHT IN, THEY CAN JUMP RIGHT IN IF THEY COME IN. AND THIS THIS SOUTH ENTRANCE, THEY WOULD CIRCULATE AROUND THE BUILDING TO QUEUE.
THIS IS A PHYSICAL SEPARATION OVER ON THIS SIDE TO PREVENT ANY CARS THAT ARE HEADING SOUTHBOUND TO, YOU KNOW, CONFLICT WITH THE NORTHBOUND DRIVE THROUGH TRAFFIC. AND THE LANES ON THE SOUTH HERE ARE PURELY EASTBOUND. SO ALL TRAFFIC ENTERING AT THE SOUTH HERE HAS TO GO NORTH BEFORE IT COMES AROUND TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BUILDING TO QUEUE. AND SO COULD TRAFFIC LIKE SOMEBODY PARKED IN A PARKING SPOT AND THEY GO TO LEAVE AND THEY DON'T KNOW OR WHATEVER. COULD THEY BE GOING AROUND NEXT TO THE DRIVE THROUGH? ABSOLUTELY, YES. SO THE THIS IS TWO WAY TRAFFIC. SO THERE'S ENOUGH SPACE FOR TWO, TWO CARS THERE, BUT REALLY THREE. SO THE ONE IN THE DRIVE THROUGH LANE AND THEN TWO CARS GOING NORTH IN SOUTH, BASICALLY LANE AND THE BLUE THERE IS IS SELF SUFFICIENT. THERE'S A PHYSICAL BARRIER BETWEEN IT AND THE, AND THE TWO WAY TRAFFIC IN THIS DRIVE AISLE, WHICH IS PLANTED AND HAS LIGHT POLES AND OTHER ELEMENTS THAT KEEP THAT TRAFFIC PHYSICALLY SEPARATED, IT JUST DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THERE'S ENOUGH FOR TWO LANES OF I GET THE THE DRIVE THROUGH LANE FOR SURE. THE EXTRA LANE, THE RIGHT LANE BY THE PARKING STALLS IS 22FT FROM THAT BARRIER TO THE PARKING STALLS.
OKAY. AND THE PARKING STALL LENGTH IS 19. YEAH. AND HOW MANY PARKING SPOTS ARE AT THE IN THE ENTIRE FACILITY? DO YOU KNOW, OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD OR MAYBE STAFF? YEAH. IT SAYS THAT 35 PARKING SPACES ARE REQUIRED. THAT'S EXACTLY HOW MANY THEY'RE PROVIDING. THERE ARE ALSO SEVEN STACKING SPACES THAT ARE. REQUIRED AND THEY'RE PROVIDING NINE. THANK YOU. YEAH.
OKAY. THANK YOU. OTHERS ON THE FINANCIAL SIDE, IS THERE A PROJECTION WHEN THE CLIENT WILL BE COMFORTABLE? LIKE WHAT ARE THE FACTORS THAT THEY'RE WAITING FOR THAT'S GOING TO LET THEM PULL THE TRIGGER? I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY. I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE A METRIC THAT THEY'RE FOLLOWING. I THINK THEY'RE JUST KEEPING TABS ON THE AREA. WHENEVER THEY FEEL IN THEIR GUT, IT'S READY TO GO, THEY PULL THE TRIGGER, BUT THEY'RE DOING THINGS THAT AREN'T. IF THEY'RE IF THEY WANTED TO SIT FOR A WHILE. YOUR EARLIER TESTIMONY SAID THAT THEY'RE DOING THINGS LIKE GETTING ENGINEERING APPROVED, THAT THEY WOULDN'T HAVE HAD TO DO. CORRECT. BUT BY DOING THEM, THEY ARE READY TO MOVE FORWARD. ABSOLUTELY. AND THOSE WOULD BE GATING FACTORS ANYWAYS, RIGHT? RIGHT. SO THE SITE WE CAN'T SUBMIT FOR BUILDING PERMITS UNTIL THE SITE ENGINEERING IS APPROVED, THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED. AND THE LAST STEP IS PRE-CON MEETING FOR CONSTRUCTION. AND WHEN THAT OCCURS, THE BUILDING PLANS CAN BE SUBMITTED. AND THEORETICALLY WE'LL HAVE A BUILDING PERMIT WITHIN 30 DAYS. SO IF THEY WANT TO BE THERE IN PROCESS AND THERE THERE'S A SIGN THAT THEY'RE MOVING AT THE NORMAL PACE. CORRECT. SO YEAH, SO THERE'S A COMMITMENT BASICALLY SHOWING TO MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION. YEAH. AND THEY'RE SPENDING MONEY ON ENGINEERING AS THAT COMMITMENT IS WHAT I'M PRESUMING. CORRECT. YEAH. OKAY.
OKAY. SO I HAVE A QUESTION. SO YOU HAVE MADE SOME PROGRESS. YOU SAID, ARE ALL THE CONDITIONS OUTSTANDING OR SOME OTHER CONDITIONS HAVE ALREADY BEEN MET? ANY OF THE ENGINEERING CONDITIONS WOULD HAVE BEEN BAKED INTO THE ENGINEERING PLANS WHICH WERE REVIEWED AND APPROVED. SO THOSE CONDITIONS HAVE BEEN MET. AND IF THERE THERE ARE OTHERS RELATED TO THE BUILDING THAT HAVE BEEN BAKED INTO THE BUILDING PLAN, BUT THEY'VE NOT YET BEEN SUBMITTED. OKAY, BUT HAVE BEEN ACCOUNTED FOR. YES. THIS IS FOR THE STAFF. JUST A NOTE, THE FOOTER MENTIONS A DIFFERENT YEAH, I BELIEVE THE AT THE VERY END AS WELL. IT SAYS MOVE TO APPROVE THE OLD YES CASE NUMBERS. I JUST WANT TO POINT THAT OUT AS WELL. CAN
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YOU CAN YOU TAKE US BACK TO THE SLIDE FOR THE ORDINANCE PLEASE. SO ONE THING I'M JUST NOT CLEAR ON BECAUSE I DON'T SEE IT THERE. HOW LONG IS THE EXTENSION FOR? IT IS FOR I BELIEVE ONE YEAR.IS IT ONE YEAR BECAUSE I DIDN'T SEE IT IN THE STAFF REPORT AND I DIDN'T SEE IT IN THE IN THE SUMMARY OF THE CODE. SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE. YEAH. MY APOLOGIES. YEAH. AND THAT'S IT.
SO JUST TO EVERYBODY'S CLEAR, YOU GOT ONE MORE YEAR UNTIL JUNE OF 2027 TO START. AND IF YOU DON'T, YOU'RE BACK. WE'LL BE BACK STARTING ALL OVER AGAIN. OKAY, GOOD. ALL RIGHT. OKAY.
GOOD LUCK. WELL WE HAVE. AND THERE IS NO PUBLIC FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. I MOVE TO ACCEPT THE STAFF REPORTS AND RELATED DOCUMENTS INTO THE RECORD FOR FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. 31, 2026. DO I HEAR A SECOND ON DOCUMENTS MOTION I SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE DOCUMENTS COULD HEAR THE ROLL, PLEASE, MR. KIRBY? YES, DOCTOR. CYCLE. YES, MISS BRIGGS. YES. MR. WALLACE. YES. MR. LARSON. YES, YES. HAVE IT WITH ALL VOTES TO ADMIT THE DOCUMENTS. DO I HEAR A MOVE? A MOTION FOR THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN ITSELF. I MOVE TO APPROVE THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. EXTENSION APPLICATION FDP312026. EXTENDING THE APPROVAL OF FDP362024, SUBJECT TO THE PRIOR STATED CONDITIONS CONTAINED IN THE STAFF REPORT SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL. I'LL SECOND THAT ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION FOR THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. EXTENSION TO THE ROLL, PLEASE. DOCTOR CYCLE. YES, MR. KIRBY YES, MISS BRIGGS YES. MR. WALLACE. YES. MR. LARSON. YES. THE AYES HAVE IT. THE MOTION PASSES WITH ALL VOTES TO GRANT THE EXTENSION TO THE FINAL VOTE. GOOD LUCK. YOU. THAT LOOKS GOOD. BRINGS US TO
[VII. Other business]
OTHER BUSINESS. HOME OCCUPATION. CAN WE HEAR FROM STAFF, PLEASE? YES. THANK YOU. SO WE HAVE, I BELIEVE, INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKETS A MEMO OUTLINING SOME PROPOSED CODE CHANGES RELATED TO HOME OCCUPATIONS ON THE AGENDA TODAY. SO MOST OF THE THE CODE SECTIONS HERE, BUT SOME OF MINE GOING TO THE NEXT SLIDE FOR ME. I'M SORRY. SO THE REAL MEAT OF THE CHANGE HERE IS IN THE ACTUAL HOME OCCUPATIONS CODE SECTION. SO. 116507 SO THIS CLARIFIES THAT HOME OCCUPATIONS ARE ALLOWED TO BE ALLOWED TO OPERATE IN ACCESSORY USES ON THE STRUCTURE, WHICH WAS PREVIOUSLY UNCLEAR IN OUR CODE, DEPENDING ON WHICH RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT YOU WERE LOCATED IN, AS WELL AS SOME OTHER CLEANUP RELATED TO BEING OVERLY PRESCRIPTIVE ABOUT WHAT USES CAN BE ALLOWED TO BE CONSIDERED HOME OCCUPATIONS. WE ALL KNOW, ESPECIALLY POST-COVID, THAT HOME OCCUPATIONS CAN BE A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS, NOT JUST SOMEONE PERFORMING PROFESSIONAL OFFICE SERVICES. AND THEN CHRISTINA SO KINDLY OFFERED TO PREPARE OTHER CLEAN UP SECTIONS OF CODE THAT WERE REFERRING TO THE WRONG, WRONG SECTION ABOUT HOME OCCUPATIONS.SO THAT'S THE OTHER SECTIONS OF CODES THAT ARE IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY. DID WE GET THIS PIECE? I'M JUST MAKING SURE THAT. SO THIS IS THIS IS IT SHOULD BE THE FIRST SECTION THAT'S MENTIONED IN YOUR MEMO. I JUST COMBINED IT HERE ON ONE ONE SCREEN HERE TO MAKE IT EASIER.
BUT SPLIT THE FIRST TWO PAGES. OKAY. OH, OKAY. SORRY. GO AHEAD. THAT WAS ALL I HAD. UNLESS YOU GUYS HAD QUESTIONS. IS THE INTENT OF THIS OR WAS THE INTENT OF THIS LANGUAGE TO LIMIT ANY, ANY? HOME OCCUPATION WORK TO THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE OR PRIMARY DWELLING TO LIMIT IT TO THAT? NO, IT WAS SPECIFICALLY MEANT TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO CLARIFY THAT YOU CAN USE YOU CAN DO HOME OCCUPATIONS AND ACCESSORY STRUCTURES, BUT KEEP IN PLACE THE EXISTING REGULATIONS FOR WHEN IT IS LOCATED IN THE PRIMARY HOME. AND CODE SAYS THAT IT CANNOT TAKE UP ANY MORE THAN 15% OF A PRIMARY DWELLING UNIT. SO THAT REMAINS IN PLACE. SO I'M JUST
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JUST TO BE CLEAR. SO IF THE USE IS IN THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE, THESE LIMITS DON'T APPLY. THE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE LIMITS. NO, THEY WOULD NOT. IF SOMEONE IF SOMEONE WANTED TO PUT AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE IN THEIR LOT AND USE THE ENTIRE THING FOR, YOU KNOW, OFFICE SPACE, OFFICE SPACE, THEY COULD DO THAT, BUT THEY WOULD ALSO BE SUBJECT TO THE SAME REGULATIONS, ACCESSORY STRUCTURES. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LITTLE A YES. YEAH. I'M JUST TRYING TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING BECAUSE WHEN IT SAYS WHEN LOCATED IN THE PRIMARY DWELLING, LIMITED IT TO WHEN LOCATED IN THE PRIMARY DWELLING, BUT THAT WOULD MEAN IT COULD BE LOCATED, IT COULD BE LOCATED IN AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. THAT WE'RE NOT CREATING A SITUATION WHERE B, C, D, E, F, AND G AND H DON'T APPLY TO THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO BE LIMITED TO WHEN IT'S IN THE DWELLING STRUCTURE. BUT YEAH, THE, WHEN IN LITTLE A IS PROBLEMATIC BECAUSE IT IS NOT ADDRESSED WHEN NOT. YEAH. SO ON THE SAME PAGE IF AND I'LL USE MY MY OWN RESIDENCE, MY BARN IS BIGGER THAN MY HOUSE. AND SO IF I HAD A HOME OCCUPATION IN THE BARN, THE WHEN CLAUSE DOES NOT APPLY HERE AND THE WHEN MODIFIED THAT IT SHALL BE CLEARLY INCIDENTAL AND SECONDARY, WHICH MEANS THAT I COULD HAVE A BIGGISH BUSINESS WITH A SMALLISH HOUSE. BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T SAY I COULDN'T, OR IT WASN'T ADDRESSED HERE. THE.THE WHEN APPLIES TO. IF I DID IT IN MY HOUSE, IT'S LIKE I USE MY OFFICE. YEAH, IT'S A SMALL PART. 15%. YEAH. OKAY. WHEN IT'S NOT IN MY HOUSE, OKAY. THE FIRST CLAUSE ABOUT CLEARLY INCIDENTAL, CLEARLY SECONDARY WAS PREDICATED ON THE. WHEN WE DON'T HAVE THE CASE, WHEN THAT'S NOT TRUE. YEAH. I THINK THE WAY THAT WE APPROACHED IT WITH THE SAME CONCERNS THAT YOU GUYS ARE SHARING, WE RELIED ON THE FACT THAT THERE ARE OTHER SQUARE FOOTAGE LIMITATIONS FOR ACCESSORY STRUCTURES THAT ALREADY EXIST IN CODE. SO IF A LOT IS AN ACRE IN SIZE, THEY COULD HAVE A REALLY BIG HOUSE, BUT THEY'RE ONLY ALLOWED TO HAVE AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE THAT'S NO LARGER THAN 800FT■!S. SQUARE FOOTAGE IS NOT MY CONCERN. THAT'S THE INCIDENTAL SECONDARY. DIDN'T SURVIVE. GOT IT. SO YOU WANT TO LIMIT YOU GUYS WANT TO PUT A LIMITATION ON THE ACTUAL. HOW MUCH OF THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE IS USED FOR. OR CAN WE PUT A CAP COMBINED? WE CAN MAYBE SAY 20%. BUT YEAH, WE COULD DO THAT. YEAH, YEAH. THAT'S THE ISSUE. JUST THAT YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE OTHER REGULATIONS APPLY TO ACCESSORY STRUCTURES. IT'S MORE ALONG THE LINES OF ACTUALLY READING IT. I THINK THEY PROBABLY DO BECAUSE THE PRELIMINARY LANGUAGE TALKS ABOUT HOME OCCUPATIONS. AND THEN I, IN READING A LITTLE MORE CAREFULLY, I THINK A DOES JUST IS PROBABLY LIMITED TO THAT ONLY WHEN LOCATED IN THE PRIMARY DWELLING. YEAH. THAT WITHOUT THAT THEN WOULD APPLY TO EVERYTHING. OKAY, I EVERYTHING APPLIED, I SHOULD SAY, I THINK I SPENT MORE THAN ONE DECADE DOING REQUIREMENTS, REVIEWS AND DEVIL'S ADVOCATE STUFF. AND I DIDN'T HEAR THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT WHEN NOT BEING ADDRESSED. I THINK WE'RE OKAY. I HAVE A QUESTION. SURE. SO READING, READING THIS WITH I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT IF I INCLUDE EMPLOYMENT OF NOT MORE THAN ONE, OH, NOT ONE NONRESIDENT. OKAY, I JUST HAD TO KEEP READING ALL THE WORDS. NOT FOR A MINUTE. I THOUGHT THAT THIS MEANT THAT ONLY ONE PARTNER COULD WORK AT HOME, WHICH IS PROBABLY ACTUALLY GOOD FOR THE FAMILY UNIT, BUT I JUST WASN'T QUITE SURE EXACTLY WHAT THAT MEANT. BUT YEAH, WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN IF IF A RESIDENT NOTICES THAT THERE MIGHT BE SOME WORK THAT'S BEING DONE OUTSIDE THEIR HOUSE, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT THAT MIGHT RUN AFOUL OF THIS SECTION, YOU WOULD LET US KNOW IT'D BE KIND OF A CODE ENFORCEMENT CASE. OKAY. YEAH. ALSO THE, THE H PART OF THAT BULLET ITEM GOT CROSSED OUT EVEN THOUGH THERE IS AN ITEM THERE, AN OCCUPANT IS SINGULAR. SO. YOU COULDN'T, FOR EXAMPLE, BE SELLING AND HAVE ONE OF YOUR KIDS HELP YOU.
OCCUPANTS OF THE YEAH. PERFORMED BY THE OCCUPANT. SINGULAR ON OCCUPANTS. PLURAL.
GOTCHA. THAT'S A GOOD CATCH. OKAY. AND I WANTED TO KNOW IF THAT WAS INTENTIONAL. IT WAS NOT INTENTIONAL. OKAY. MAKE IT NOT. ALL RIGHT. IF THE OCCUPANT, THE BUSINESS WHERE TO BE NOT IN
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THE PRIMARY DWELLING, WHAT STOPS THEM FROM JUST HAVING IT IN THEIR FRONT YARD, REPAIRING CARS OR WHATEVER? RIGHT. WE WOULD WANT TO LIMIT IT TO SOMEWHERE BEHIND THE HOUSE OR SOMETHING. I DON'T SEE WHERE IT SAYS ANY LIMITATIONS AROUND THAT. YEAH. DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO I KNOW WE'VE DEALT WITH THAT BEFORE, LIKE. WHAT BRUCE. YEAH. THE YOU SAID ABOUT THE LIKE, THERE'S NO SPECIFIC CODE SECTION. I CAN PULL IT UP TO GIVE YOU THE EXACT WORDING, BUT YOU CAN ONLY HAVE ONE INOPERABLE VEHICLE ON YOUR PREMISES. AND IT'S FOR A VERY LIMITED AMOUNT OF TIME AT TWO WEEKS OR SOMETHING. YEAH, I THINK SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO INOPERABLE, LIKE IT HAS TO HAVE TIRES IN AT LEAST APPEAR TO BE. AND THEN WE CAN ALSO CALL IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO DOUBLE CHECK THE TAGS AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT AS WELL. THAT'S PRIMARILY VEHICLE LIKE. THEY CAN SET UP THE WOOD SHOP, THEY COULD SET UP WHATEVER THEIR FRONT YARD, RIGHT? I DON'T THINK YOU CAN STORE THERE'S, THERE'S OTHER PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE SECTIONS THAT WOULD APPLY THAT WOULD PREVENT PEOPLE FROM DOING THAT. WE, WE ACTUALLY DEAL WITH THAT QUITE OFTEN FROM FOLKS. SO WE FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT WE CAN RELY ON THOSE OTHER SECTIONS. YEAH, YOU'D HAVE TO LITERALLY TEAR IT DOWN EVERY NIGHT. YOU COULD PROBABLY, BECAUSE THERE'S PROBABLY NO ORDINANCE THAT SAYS I CAN'T IF I'M FIXING MY FRONT PORCH, SET UP TWO SAWHORSES AND SAW SOME STUFF AND PUT IT ON MY PORCH. BUT I CAN'T LEAVE IT THERE. I CAN'T STORE IT THERE. YEAH. NOT IN PERPETUITY, NO. EVENTUALLY WE GET TO A POINT WHERE IT'S LIKE, OKAY, THIS IS DRAGGING OUT LONGER THAN IT PROBABLY SHOULD, I GUESS, IF IT RUNS AFOUL OF THE ASSOCIATION REQUIREMENTS AS WELL. OH YEAH. IF THERE'S AN ASSOCIATION THAT THE HOUSE IS LOCATED IN. OTHER QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS. SO, SO JUST ONE MORE QUESTION. SO WE SO WE DON'T REALLY CARE IF THEY HAVE A, YOU KNOW, A POOL HOUSE OR AN ACCESSORY GARAGE THAT THEY DECIDE TO CHANGE, TURN INTO SOME SORT OF A HOME OFFICE. NOT FROM STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE AND CANDIDLY, JUST THE WAY THAT THESE ARE BEING USED AND WHAT WE'RE SEEING GET PERMITTED EVERY DAY. PEOPLE ARE USING THEM THAT WAY, ESPECIALLY POST-COVID, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT THAT. WE DO HAVE THOSE REGULATIONS IN PLACE FOR ALL THE SIZE, LIMITATIONS, HEIGHT, THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE CARE ABOUT, THE EXTERIOR PARTS OF IT. I MEAN, I SEE THE WAY THIS IS SET UP. SO, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE, THE CONCERNS OF, OF, OF WHAT MIGHT BE GENERATED AND SAY, YOU KNOW, FULL HOUSE OR ONE OF THE OTHER BIGGER GARAGE STRUCTURES ARE THE OTHER SUBSECTIONS. IT CAN'T BE NOISY, IT CAN'T BE SMELLY, CAN'T CREATE NOISE. I ALREADY SAID THAT OR VIBRATE CAN'T CREATE PROBLEMS WITH PARKING. I, SO I, I GUESS, I GUESS I GUESS I'M OKAY WITH THIS SO. IS IT. NO, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY. SO WE'RE KEEPING THE 15% IN THE PRIMARY DWELLING UNIT. DOES THAT INCLUDE ACCESSORY UNIT OR THAT'S THAT'S CURRENTLY WRITTEN.IT WOULD NOT INCLUDE THE ACCESSORY UNIT BUT DEFINITELY THE PRIMARY UNIT PRIMARY DWELLING. AND THERE IS NO LIMIT ON THE ACCESSORY AS PER THIS CODE AT LEAST. CORRECT. NOT AS DRAFTED. OKAY. OTHER. THE THE SIGNAGE, THE TWO FOOT LIMITATION ON THAT, THAT COULD BE ON THE FRONT FACE OF THE STREET. OR IS IT LIMITED? I DON'T SEE ANY LIMITATIONS ON THERE AREN'T ANY LIMITATIONS ON IT. I KNOW THAT THERE'S FOLKS THAT. SORRY, I'M TRYING TO SAVE THAT ONE. I'M TRYING TO CATCH THAT ONE. OCCUPANTS CHANGE REAL QUICK. LET PULL THIS BACK UP HERE. THIS THIS WOULD BE WHERE'S THE SIGNAGE SECTION? YEAH. IT'S AN ATTACHED FLAT AGAINST THE STRUCTURE. SO THAT WOULD EITHER BE AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE OR A PRIMARY HOUSE.
I'VE NEVER SEEN SOMEONE DO ONE PERSONALLY, BUT THIS THIS EXISTING CODE WOULD ALLOW THEM TO DO THAT. EVERYTHING WE DO, WE WANT, DO WE WANT THAT? I MEAN, IT FEELS LIKE IT DOES ON THE FRONT OF YOUR HOUSE. THAT FEELS LIKE IT KIND OF CHANGES THE VIBE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
LOOKING AT LIKE OTHER COMMUNITIES, OTHER EXAMPLES OF LIKE, ESPECIALLY LIKE IN LIKE A VILLAGE CENTER TYPE ENVIRONMENT, IT DOES HELP IDENTIFY THOSE SMALL BUSINESSES, LET THEM COME IN IF THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING FOR SALE ON SATURDAY MORNINGS. WE WOULDN'T NECESSARILY WANT TO LIMIT THAT, BUT DEFINITELY OPEN TO YOUR GUYS'S INPUT ON THAT. YEAH, IT GOES A LONG WAY. IF YOU HAVE A CLIENT OR SOMEONE WHO WALKS IN TO KNOW WHERE THEY'RE WALKING INTO WHICH DOOR, WHICH DOOR, IN FRONT OF THEM. YEAH, YEAH. OR A SLIDE BECAUSE IRS REGULATIONS ARE ABOUT FOR DEDUCTING AN OFFICE. IT USED TO REQUIRE A A SECOND ENTRANCE BACK IN THE DAY.
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THAT'S NO LONGER THE CASE. BUT SO THERE'S A CASE, PARTICULARLY FOR TAXES FOR THE HOME OFFICE TO HAVE IT BE IN THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE. SO YOU CAN DEDUCT THE WHOLE THING OR THE WHOLE FOOTPRINT OF IT. RIGHT. OR IN YOUR PRIMARY HOUSE. I THINK THE TAX LIMITATIONS, 15% OF YOUR HOME THAT LINES UP WITH THIS TWO. OKAY, OKAY. SO THIS WOULD BE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL FOR THE CHANGE. YES. OKAY. I RECOMMEND TO COUNCIL THAT WE THAT THEY APPROVE OF THE CHANGES AS WE HAVE MODIFIED THEM. DO I HEAR A SECOND ON THE MOTION? I SECOND ANY DISCUSSION.OKAY. THE ROLL PLEASE, MR. KIRBY? YES, YES. MR. LARSON YES. MISS. BRIGGS. YES. MR. WALLACE.
YES. YES. MOTION PASSES WITH ALL VOTES TO APPROVE THE RECOMMENDED CHANGES AS MODIFIED.
THANK YOU, MR. COMMENT. NEIL. I HAD A HOUSEKEEPING ITEM. DID WE NEED TO ACCEPT THE STAFF REPORT AND RELATED DOCUMENTS ON THAT LAST ITEM? LET ME CHECK WITH STAFF. I DIDN'T SEE IT IN THE.
I DON'T BELIEVE WE NEED TO SINCE WE'RE JUST MAKING A RECOMMENDATION. OKAY, OKAY.
THANK YOU. IF IN THE FUTURE WE NEED TO PLEASE MAKE SURE IT WINDS UP IN THE AGENDA. THEY HAD IT IN THERE. THAT WAS FOR THE FDP. IS THE ONE ABOVE IT OKAY. YEAH, IT WAS ENOUGH. ALL RIGHT. BOARD MEMBERS FOR COMMENT. SO SO WE DON'T NEED A VOTE. SO. OH I'M SORRY, WE DID VOTE ON IT. WE VOTED ON THE DOCUMENTS, BUT WE DIDN'T KNOW WE VOTED ON THE OR DID WE JUST SAY WE DIDN'T? I'M SORRY, I WAS READING I THINK YOU VOTED ON MAKING A RECOMMENDATION. YEAH.
WE RECOMMEND. YEAH. WE MADE THE RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL IN THE AFFIRMATIVE. ARE WE GOOD? YES. OKAY. BOARD MEMBERS FOR COMMENTS. OH, WAIT A MINUTE. DID WE VOTE ON THAT? YES, I HAVE FIVE. OH, YOU VOTED. WE VOTED ON THE STAFF. YOU VOTED YES TO THE MOTION. AND THEN WE TALKED ABOUT JORDAN COMMENTS THAT WE DID NOT NEED A STAFF REPORT. SO NOW IT'S COMMENTS TIME. ALL RIGHT. CATTY COMMENTS. ARE WE MOVING? YEAH. OKAY. GO AHEAD. ALL RIGHT. NOTHING FOR
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ME. SORRY. I