[I. Call to order] [00:00:07] THE ROLL CALL. MR. SMITHERS HERE, MR. PAUL HERE, MR. CHAPPELL HERE. HERE, MR. HARPER. MR. HERSHKOWITZ HERE, MR. BRUBAKER HERE, MR. SELLERS HERE. MR. BILLMAN. WE HAVE SIX VOTING MEMBERS PRESENT. WE HAVE A QUORUM. OKAY. FANTASTIC. THE NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS TO [III. Action on minutes] REVIEW OUR MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING. AND I KNOW WE HAD A SLIGHT AT LEAST ONE SLIGHT CORRECTION. OH, SURE. I JUST NOTICED THAT UNDER OATH, I WAS ADMINISTERED THE OATH THAT WAS ACTUALLY WRONG BECAUSE HE WAS. I APPRECIATE YOUR ATTENTION TO DETAIL. SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR APPROVAL. J. HURST WAS I SORRY. J HURST WAS I MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES. PAUL WILL SECOND. MR. HERSKOWITZ. YES. MR. PAUL. YES. MR. BILLMAN YES. MR. CAVALIER. YES. MR. HURST SORRY. MR. BRUBAKER. YES. MR. SELLERS. ABSTAIN. AND MR. SMITHERS. YES. YES. THE MOTION PASSES WITH SIX VOTES TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS CORRECTED. OKAY, FANTASTIC. SO [V. Oath] THE NEXT THING WE NEED TO DO, AND THIS IS WE'LL MAKE SURE WE'VE GOT IT DOWN, IS ME TODAY. ANYONE WHO'S GOING TO BE AN APPLICANT OR SPEAKING, ANYONE THAT'S GOT A SPEAKING PART TODAY, IF YOU CAN COME FORWARD, WE NEED TO SWEAR YOU IN. SO WE'LL BE REAL QUICK. OKAY, THERE WE GO. SO WE JUST WANT TO ASK YOU IF YOU'D SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH. OKAY. FANTASTIC. SO. AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OTHER. ARE YOU ALL PLANNING TO BE A PART OF THE MEETING OR JUST HERE TO WITNESS OR WITNESS? BUT I'D LIKE TO QUESTION. OKAY, I DON'T THINK I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE TO BE SWORN IN TO ASK A QUESTION, BUT IF YOU HAVE LIKE A STATEMENT, WE'LL PROBABLY NEED TO HAVE YOU DO THAT. SO WE'LL, WE'LL. OKAY, FANTASTIC. ALRIGHT. AND WE HAVE ONE CASE TODAY. IT'S Z 26016 AND CV 26042 AT 7665 HARLEM [VI. Case] ROAD. AND WE'LL GO AHEAD AND LET OUR STAFF FROM THE CITY OF COLUMBUS PRESENT. SOUNDS GOOD. HUNTER RAYFIELD, CITY OF COLUMBUS PLANNING DIVISION. YEP. WE'RE PRESENTING A REZONING ASSOCIATED COUNCIL VARIANCE FOR 7665 HARLEM ROAD. THE SITE CONSISTS OF 112.8 PARCEL IN THE CITY OF COLUMBUS. THE SOUTHERN END INCLUDES A PORTION OF THE ROCKY FORK AND ASSOCIATED FLOODWAY. THE SITE ALREADY IS ALREADY WITHIN THE CITY OF COLUMBUS AND IS CURRENTLY ZONED R RURAL. THE ROCKY FORK BLACKLICK ACCORD DESIGNATES THIS SITE AS NEIGHBORHOOD WEST VILLAGE. THE MAJORITY OF THE SITE IS CURRENTLY VACANT WITH A MATURE TREE LINE ON THE WESTERN EDGE AND MATURE TREES IN THE SOUTHEAST. FLOODWAY TO THE EAST IS EXISTING RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL OR SORRY TO THE NORTH IS EXISTING RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL. TO THE EAST IS RESIDENTIAL. TO THE SOUTH IS THE ROCKY FORK AND EXISTING RESIDENTIAL AND TO THE WEST IS AGRICULTURAL AND RESIDENTIAL. THIS JUST GIVES A MACRO VIEW OF THE AREA SHOWING DEVELOPMENT UNDER CONSTRUCTION TO THE WEST AND SOUTHWEST. AS THE HAMILTON RUN EXTENSION CONTINUES. I JUST NOTED THAT THE STREET VIEW IS EXTREMELY UPDATED. THIS SHOWS THE ZONING ACTION SIGN OUT ON THE SITE. HERE IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN. THE REQUESTED LAR1 LIMITED APARTMENT RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT WILL ALLOW MULTI UNIT RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OF UP TO 192 UNITS. THERE IS AN ASSOCIATED LIMITATION TEXT THAT ESTABLISHES USE RESTRICTIONS AND SUPPLEMENTAL DEVELOPMENT [00:05:03] STANDARDS THAT ADDRESS MAXIMUM UNIT COUNT, BUILDING SETBACKS AND PERIMETER YARD. ADDITIONALLY, THE TEXT COMMITS TO THE SITE PLAN AND BUILDING ELEVATIONS. A CONCURRENT COUNCIL VARIANCE HAS BEEN FILED TO REDUCE THE BUILDING SETBACK FROM 100FT TO 25FT ALONG WALNUT ROAD, AND PROPOSED HAMILTON RUN EXTENSION FRONTAGES. HERE ARE PROPOSED BUILDING ELEVATIONS. THE TOP LEFT IS TYPE G. THE TOP RIGHT IS TYPE L. THE BOTTOM LEFT IS TYPE J AND THE BOTTOM RIGHT ARE ANCILLARY STRUCTURES INCLUDING THE CLUBHOUSE AND PARKING GARAGE. SO THIS IS A CONCEPTUAL REVIEW. SO STAFF ARE NOT OFFERING A RECOMMENDATION AT THIS TIME. BUT STAFF SITE DESIGN FEEDBACK IS RECOMMENDING NATURALIZATION OF THE SOUTHERN STORMWATER FACILITY, INCLUDING NO WATER FOUNTAIN, WETLAND SHELVING AND A MORE NATURALIZED SHAPE DEDICATION OF THE REMNANT PORTION OF THE FLOODWAY AND CREEK TO CITY REC AND PARK HOLDINGS, AND ENCOURAGING DISCUSSIONS FOR A GREENWAY, A GREENWAY BUILDING, GREENWAY, BUILD OUT AND TREE PLANTINGS ALONG THE FUTURE HAMILTON RUN RIGHT OF WAY TO SUPPLEMENT FUTURE STREET TREES AND LASTLY, SIDEWALKS OR SHARED USE PATHS ALONG THE ROADWAY FRONTAGES. AND THE APPLICANT HAS A PRESENTATION. OKAY. AND JUST REAL QUICK, JUST FOR OUR VISITORS, THIS IS A CONCEPTUAL REVIEW, WHICH MEANS THAT WE DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE MAKING A DECISION ABOUT THIS. SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT'S CLEAR. AND THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND HAVE THE APPLICANTS COME FORWARD AND ASK YOU TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF SO WE CAN GET THAT IN THE RECORD AND WE'LL HEAR, HEAR WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY. OKAY. YEAH. RIGHT HERE. THANK YOU. KILLED A FEW TREES. IT'S ALRIGHT, I DON'T MIND. OH, THERE YOU GO. THAT'S ALL GOOD. IT'S ALL GOOD. YES, PLEASE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I DO NOT THANK YOU. TWO. GOOD AFTERNOON ALL. JOE THOMAS METRO DEVELOPMENT FOR SEVEN ZERO OLD WORTHINGTON ROAD, WESTERN OHIO FOR 3082. REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME THIS AFTERNOON. WITH ME TODAY IS TODD FERRIS. HE'S OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT THAT DOES THE DESIGNING OF OUR CONCEPTS, OF OUR PLANS FOR OUR COMMUNITY. AND THEN JACK REYNOLDS, ZONING ATTORNEY WITH SMITH AND HALE FOR ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS AND ANSWER POSSIBILITIES. BUT JUST WANTED TO IF YOU COULD ADVANCE THIS TWO SLIDES, I THINK CONNOR DID A GREAT JOB OF GIVING YOU GUYS A LOCATION. THIS COMMUNITY AT THE CORNER OF HARLAN AND WALNUT ROAD, WE'VE BEEN AT THIS THIS LOCATION, THIS DEVELOPMENT FOR SOME TIME, AND MORE SO BECAUSE OF WHAT WOULD BE CONCEPTUALLY A A HAMILTON ROAD EXTENSION THAT GOES ESSENTIALLY FROM, YOU KNOW, CENTRAL COLLEGE ALL THE WAY UP TO THE INTERSECTION OF HARLEM AND WALNUT. THE COUNTY AND THE CITY HAVE HAD THIS CONCEPTUAL PLAN, I BELIEVE IT'S ALMOST 20 YEARS OLD AT THIS POINT IN TIME. SO BUT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT AS IT PROGRESSES THROUGH COLUMBUS AND NORTH OF CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD. AND, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY 3 OR 4 COMMERCIAL SITES OR CONSTRUCTION SITES OR MULTIFAMILY SITES THAT THE HAMILTON ROAD EXTENSION HAS BEEN DONE TO DATE. SO WE'RE SIMPLY AT THE BASICALLY THE FAR EAST AND NORTHEAST CORNER OF THAT HAMILTON ROAD EXTENSION. AND THE REASON, LIKE I SAID, WE'VE BEEN WORKING AT THIS FOR SOME TIME WAS THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, SOME CONCEPTS OF HAMILTON ROAD POSSIBLY GOING NORTH AND CONNECTING WALNUT ROAD FURTHER TO THE WEST. BUT I THINK AS FAR AS THE ALIGNMENT, I THINK THIS IS PRETTY MUCH SET AS FAR AS [00:10:06] THE FUTURE ALIGNMENT OF THIS CORRIDOR. HOWEVER, AS WE FOUND OUT LATELY, THERE'S A DEVELOPMENT THERE THAT'S CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION, THE VISION DEVELOPMENT THAT'S THE MOST NORTH PORTION OF HAMILTON ROAD AT THIS TIME. THAT'S CURRENTLY WORKING ON THEIR PORTION OF HAMILTON ROAD. THAT MIGHT CHANGE THE ALIGNMENT OF HAMILTON ROAD. AND SO WE'RE NOT ABSOLUTELY 100% SURE HOW THAT'S GOING TO AFFECT OUR DEVELOPMENT, BUT WANT TO SHARE THAT WITH THE BOARD THIS EVENING. BUT, YOU KNOW, THE THE REASON I WANTED TO SHARE THAT ELEMENT WAS IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, AS YOU CAN TELL WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AS IT IS, YOU KNOW, THE ENTIRE ACREAGE OF THE SITE IS NOT BEING PROPOSED AS A DEVELOPMENT, BUT SIMPLY THE NORTH OR THE NORTHWEST PORTION OF, OF THAT PARTICULAR LOT WILL BE DEVELOPED. AND WE'LL LEAVE EVERYTHING TO THE SOUTH OF HAMILTON ROAD, EITHER AS A STORMWATER FACILITY AND OR OPEN SPACE ALONG THE ROCKY FORK. IN DOING SO, YOU KNOW, LEAVE A LOT OF PRESERVATION AND STREAM SETBACK CORRIDOR FOR THAT PARTICULAR, PARTICULAR STREAM AND PROBABLY FIND THAT PRETTY IMPORTANT BECAUSE OF THE DEVELOPMENT IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA. WE'LL SIMPLY STAY NORTH OF HAMILTON ROAD. AND THE REASON THE POND IS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE FUTURE HAMILTON ROAD EXTENSION IS, OF COURSE, IS BECAUSE THE CLOSEST OUTLET IS THAT STREAM CORRIDOR. SO EVERYTHING IS RUNNING SOUTH INTO THAT AREA. SO THAT'S SIMPLY WHERE THAT POND AND WHITE'S LOCATED ON THAT SIDE OF THE STREET. AS HUNTER MENTIONED, AS FAR AS OUR DEVELOPMENT, THERE HAS BEEN SOME CHANGES WHICH FROM THE STAFF REPORT TO THIS ONE, KIND OF WANT TO POINT OUT THE CHANGES. THE CITY AND THE COUNTY DID NOT WANT US TO CONNECT TO THE FUTURE HAMILTON ROAD OR CONNECT IN THE INTERIM TIME TO THE HARLEM ROAD. SO WE CHANGED OUR FULL CONNECTION UP THERE TO WALNUT, AND THAT WAS SIMPLY TO AVOID ANY FUTURE, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY IMPACT ON WHERE POSSIBLY HARLEM ROAD WILL POSSIBLY INTERSECT WITH HAMILTON ROAD AND OR THE ROUNDABOUT THAT MAY FUTURE BE PLACED AT THE INTERSECTION OF WALNUT AND HARLEM ROAD AS WELL. SO WE PLACED THAT OUR SITE ACCESS ON WALNUT ROAD FURTHEST WEST AS WE CAN GET AWAY FROM THAT INTERSECTION. SO THAT'S THAT LOCATION. SO SOME OF THE INTERNAL CONCEPT OF THE PLAN CHANGED DUE TO THAT. BUT SIMPLY WITH OUR PROJECT IT'S IT'S AN EIGHT BUILDING, EIGHT EIGHT BUILDINGS ON SITE. THERE ARE 24 UNITS. EACH BUILDING IS 24 UNITS, THREE STORY WALK UP TYPE OF FLATS. WE HAVE A RANGE OF ONE, TWO AND THREE BEDROOMS IN OUR COMMUNITY. THE UNIT MIX IS 481 BEDROOM, 132 TWO BEDROOM, TWO BATH AND 123 BEDROOM UNITS. ALSO ON THE SITE ARE 48 GARAGES, 300 SURFACE PARKING SPOTS, AND THAT SIMPLY COMES TO EQUATION OF 348 TOTAL PARKING SPOTS. AND IT'S 192 UNITS. THE OVERALL DEVELOPABLE ACRE ON DEVELOPABLE ACRES ON THE SITE IS 12.8 ACRES, SOENSITY OF ROUGHLY 15 UNITS PER ACRE. ONE THING I WANT TO POINT OUT IN OUR COMMUNITIES, THOUGH, AS YOU COME IN ON WALNUT STREET, THAT ENTRY ROAD GOES INTO WHAT IS OUR COMMUNITY CENTER. OUR COMMUNITY CENTER IS ROUGHLY 4500FT■!S IN SIZE, INTERNAL TO THE COMMUNITY CENTER. WE HAVE EXERCISE FACILITIES, A MOVIE ROOM, A GAME CENTER, A COFFEE BAR, AND AN OFFICE FOR OUR RESIDENTS. ON THE EXTERIOR IS A LARGE RESORT STYLE POOL ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE COMMUNITY CENTER. AND OUT OF THAT POOL, OF COURSE, WILL BE THE TYPICAL CHASE ANALYSIS CHAIRS AND UMBRELLAS, BUT WE ALSO INCLUDE AN OUTDOOR GRILLING AREA, KITCHEN AREA FOR OUR RESIDENTS, AS WELL AS A FIRE PIT AS PART OF THE RESIDENTS AMENITIES. AND AS YOU GO FURTHER SOUTH DOWN TOWARDS THE FUTURE HAMILTON ROAD, THERE'S A LARGE DARK DOG PARK AT THAT CORNER ADJACENT TO THE HAMILTON ROAD, WHICH WOULD BE ON THE WEST PROPERTY LINE. ESSENTIALLY, WE WERE DEVELOPING THIS IN SUCH A MANNER THAT OUR BUILDINGS WILL ALL FRONT WALNUT AND THE FUTURE HAMILTON ROAD EXTENSION. SO ALL THE FACES OF THE BUILDINGS ARE IN THAT KIND OF PROXIMITY OF THOSE AREAS. AND THEN, OF COURSE, ALL THE PARKING LOTS ARE SCREENED BY THE BUILDING. SO ALL THE PARKING LOTS ARE ESSENTIALLY INTERNAL TO THE DEVELOPMENT TO ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, HAVE THAT BUFFER OF THE BUILDINGS HIDING THE PARKING. AND OF COURSE, ADDITIONAL SCREENING AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT TO HIDE THE ADDITIONAL PARKING IN BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS. SO IF YOU WANT TO GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, I THINK HUNTER ALREADY PRESENTED THESE AND ACTUALLY HIS STAFF REPORT, BUT THESE ARE THE DIFFERENT ELEVATIONS. TYPE G [00:15:01] BUILDING IS ALL TWO BEDROOM, TWO BATH BUILDING. IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT ONE, THE TYPE J BUILDING IS HALF ONE BEDROOM, HALF TWO BEDROOM. AND THEN YOU GO TO THE NEXT ONE AND THEN THE BUILDING L, WHICH IS THERE'S ONE ON THE SITE IS HALF TWO BEDROOM, HALF THREE BEDROOM. SO THAT'S KIND OF THE UNIT MIX ON THE SITE. SO IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, HUNTER AND THEN THIS IS THAT COMMUNITY CENTER I MENTIONED AT THE TOP LEFT, FOUR SIDED. AND THEN AS YOU GET TO THE BOTTOM. OF THE COMMUNITY CENTER IS WHAT WE HAVE ON OUR SITE. WE USE TRASH COMPACTORS INSTEAD OF DUMPSTERS. SO IT'S ALL HOUSED INTERNAL TO A LARGER STONE BUILDING WITH A LARGE GATES. AND THEN WE ALSO INCLUDE BULK STORAGE WITHIN THAT TRASH COMPACTOR FACILITY. AND THEN TO THE RIGHT IS OUR MAILBOX KIOSK DESIGN. NEXT SLIDE. AND THEN THESE ARE THE INTERNAL OR I'M SORRY, THE INTERIOR OF OUR PARTICULAR UNITS. ONE BEDROOM UNIT FLOOR PLAN. THERE'S 681FT■. THE NEXT ONE, THE TWO BEDROOM IS 957FT■!S. AND THEN THE THIRD BEDROOM FLOOR PLAN IS 1225FT■!S. JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT OUR BASE, OUR BASE RENTS FOR THE COMMUNITY FOR THE ONE BEDROOM IS AT 1275. A TWO BEDROOM, TWO BATH IS 1500 AND A THREE BEDROOM, TWO BATH IS 1950. SO AND THEN THESE ARE ACTUAL PHOTOS OF OUR COMMUNITY. SO AGAIN, COMMUNITY CENTER. AT THE TOP LEFT ELEVATIONS ARE BUILDINGS ON THE TOP RIGHT. AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THE AMENITIES WITHIN THE CLUBHOUSE AND THE EXTERIOR PATIO AREA ARE THE OUTDOOR GRILL AREA, THE OUTDOOR FIRE PIT. IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT ONE. AND THEN THESE ARE INTERIOR PHOTOS OF THE COMMUNITY CENTER. AGAIN, TOP RIGHT EXERCISE FACILITY, BUSINESS OFFICE, AND THE BOTTOM LEFT GAME ROOM, AND THEN THE ACTUAL KITCHEN AREA WITH A COFFEE BAR FOR OUR RESIDENTS AS WELL. AND THEN THESE ARE INTERIOR PHOTOS OF THE UNITS THEMSELVES. SO TOP LEFT, OF COURSE, IS THE KITCHEN CENTER AND RIGHT IS THE BEDROOMS, OUTDOOR PATIO AREA, DECK AREA FOR EACH UNIT. AND THEN THE LIVING AREA IS THE CENTER BOTTOM. AND THEN THE RIGHT AREA IS THE BATHROOMS. AND IF YOU JUST WANT TO GO BACK TO THE SITE PLAN. I'M HERE IN THE TOP AS WELL AS OUR ATTORNEY HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. APPRECIATE THAT. OKAY. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN IT. THE QUESTION SESSION UP TO THE PANEL. SO GO AHEAD JAY. PUBLIC SANITARY SEWER AND WATER SERVICE GOING TO BE PROVIDED. IT WILL BE DONE IN A TEMPORARY MANNER. TO START OUT WITH. WE'LL BE DOING A PRIVATE LIFT STATION WHICH WILL TAKE A FORCE MAIN DOWN HARLEM ROAD TO THE EXISTING COMMUNITY DOWN THERE CALLED EMERSON PARK, INTO ONE OF THEIR SANITARY GRAVITY SEWERS. AND THEN CITY OF COLUMBUS IS PROPOSING A TRUNK OR MAINLINE SEWER EXTENSION OF HARLEM ROAD AND THE PERMANENT NATURE. YOU KNOW, THERE, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THE CONSTRUCTION OF THAT SEWER IS PROBABLY IN 2027, BUT NOT KNOWING THE EXACT TIME FRAME WILL COMMIT TO DOING A TEMPORARY LIFT STATION TO ACCESS THE SEWER FOR THIS SITE, AND THEN WATER AND WATER IS WILL BE DOING A MAINLINE EXTENSION, WHICH WILL BE PERMANENT UP HARLEM ROAD. IT'LL BE A 12 INCH MAIN LINE EXTENDED UP HARLEM ROAD TO THE INTERSECTION OF HARLEM AND WALNUT TO SERVE THE SITE. ONE MORE POINT. THE WORLD PROTECTION ZONE IN THE ROCKY FORK ACCORD WORLD PROTECTION ZONE, 100 FOOT NO DISTURB. THEY SET UP A RIGHT OF WAY OR SET UP. I FORGET. YOU MEAN THE STREAM CORRIDOR? NO. IT'S A. WE DID IT ON THE SUBDIVISION AND AT STATE ROUTE 605 IN THE STREET. WHERE. WHERE THERE WAS 100 FOOT OFFSET. IN OUR CODE WHERE WE SAID NO DISTURBS. I THINK IT'S 100 FOOT. AGAIN, TAKE A LOOK. MY QUESTION IS, ARE WE MAINTAINING. NO, NO, WE'RE ACTUALLY ASKING FOR A VARIANCE FROM THAT AS PART OF THIS PROJECT. AS YOU CAN TELL, THE DEVELOPABLE AREA, IF YOU ADD THAT 100 FOOT FROM BOTH WALL. SO YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE. OH, ABSOLUTELY. IT'S IT FROM THE CENTER LINE OR RIGHT AWAY. SORRY, CENTER 100 FOOT. YEAH. YOU KNOW, FROM, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE DEVELOP THROUGHOUT CENTRAL OHIO AND WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, EXISTING DEVELOPMENT GOING ON IN THE SAME AREA. WHAT WE'VE NOTICED IS THAT THAT CORRIDOR ALONG ESPECIALLY HARLEM ROAD HAS [00:20:03] GROWN CLOSER TO, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY 25 STREET. I'M NOT SO SURE. UNDERSTOOD. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. SURE. QUESTION. OKAY. HOW ARE YOU? GOOD. SO OTHER THAN UNCERTAINTY AS TO THE ALIGNMENT OF HAMILTON ROAD, WOULD YOU EXPLAIN HAS BEEN A LITTLE BIT OF A CHALLENGE? MAY YET BE. WHAT WOULD YOU VIEW AS YOUR BIGGEST CHALLENGE IN TERMS OF DEVELOPING THIS SITE? IF THE SEWER AND WATER. OKAY. I, YOU KNOW, THEY, YOU KNOW, WE BUILD ALL OVER CENTRAL OHIO AND I VIEW THE, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENT IN CENTRAL OHIO IS RELATIVELY. I SHOULDN'T SAY IT'S NOT CHALLENGING. BUT AGAIN, AS YOU NOTICE, WE'RE TRYING TO YOU KNOW, THE DIFFICULT PART IS SOUTH. THE SOUTH EAST CORNER. I WOULD VIEW THAT AS A POSSIBLE DEVELOPABLE AREA IF IT WAS, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD TRADITIONALLY DO AND TRY TO MAKE EVERY AVAILABLE MEANS AS FAR AS DEVELOPABLE AREA, WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, GO UP TO THE STREAM CORRIDOR PROTECTION. BUT WE SEE THAT AS A, YOU KNOW, KIND OF AN ELEMENT IN THE ROCKY FORK RECORD THAT WE WOULDN'T NECESSARILY FIND, BUT WE WOULD PROPOSE A DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA BECAUSE OF THE PROXIMITY TO THE ROCKY FORK CREEK, AND TRY TO PROTECT THAT ZONE AND LEAVE IT IN ITS NATURAL STATE. AND THAT'S KIND OF WHY WE MOVED EVERYTHING NORTH OF HAMILTON ROAD OR PROPOSED HAMILTON ROAD. I SHOULD SAY ONE OF THE ELEMENTS IN THE DISTRICT DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD VILLAGE RESIDENTIAL IS THE DENSITY. AND YOU YOU HAVE AN EXCEPTION TO THAT. IN THE CHECKLIST. IT CALLS FOR TWO UNITS PER ACRE, A BONUS OF FIVE, I THINK YOU SAID IT'S AT 15. IS THAT RIGHT? YES. THE DEVELOPED PORTION OF THE SITE ENDS UP THE CALCULATION BRINGS TO 15. YEAH. NOT COUNTING THE STREAM AREA OR STREAM CORRIDOR AREA IS WHAT THE 12.5 IS EVERYTHING IN THE GREEN. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? I THINK SO. ARE THERE COMPARABLE DEVELOPMENTS IN TERMS 15 UNITS PER ACRE DENSITY IN THE VICINITY OR THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF THAT WILL BE NEARBY? OR IS THIS GOING TO BE HIGH DENSITY COMPARED TO THINGS THAT SURROUND IT, I GUESS? WASN'T THIS APPROVED? YEAH, WE'LL HAVE TO VERIFY BECAUSE I KNOW FURTHER SOUTH THE DENSITY IS MUCH HIGHER THAN THE 2 TO 5. AS YOU GO DOWN HARLEM CLOSER AS YOU GET TO CENTRAL COLLEGE, PREFERRED IS THE OTHER DEVELOPER. AND THAT WILL, YOU KNOW, SUCCESSFULLY ALONG THAT CORRIDOR. THAT'S A MUCH HIGHER DENSITY. AGAIN, WE'LL VERIFY WHAT THAT DENSITY IS. OKAY. YEAH. THANK YOU. AND THEY MIGHT USE BECAUSE THEY DID DO A STREAM CORRIDOR SETBACK TOO. YEAH. THEY MIGHT USE THAT STREAM CORRIDOR AS PART OF THEIR DENSITY, BUT WE'RE NOT. SO. GOTCHA. THANK YOU. SO THE PLAN OBVIOUSLY MY QUESTION IS MORE ALONG SIDEWALKS AND STREET TREES. SOME OF THOSE ARE SHOWN ALONG WALNUT OBVIOUSLY, BUT NOT THE HAMILTON CORRIDOR OR PROPOSED CORRIDOR. IS THERE GOING TO BE SIDEWALKS IN THIS DEVELOPMENT NOW, TYPICAL WITH THE EXPANSION OF THE HAMILTON ROAD? YOU KNOW, THOSE TYPICALLY COME WITH THE SIDEWALK EXPANSION AS FAR AS THE, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC SIDEWALK AND TRAILS. SO WE DID NOT SHOW THAT INTENTIONALLY ON THE PLAN BECAUSE IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE BUILT BY THIS DEVELOPMENT, BUT AS PART AS THAT ROAD CONNECTION. BUT THERE WILL BE A, YOU KNOW, THERE WILL BE A SIDEWALK CONNECTION ALONG HAMILTON. AND WHAT ABOUT HARLEM AND WALNUT AS FAR AS THAT YOU THAT I GUESS THAT WOULD BE THAT EAST CORNER ON HARLEM. WE COULD I MEAN, WE INTENTIONALLY I THINK WE'RE INTENTIONALLY DOING A WALNUT FRONTAGE. RIGHT. YES. AND AND YOU'RE APPLYING RIGHT NOW, YOU'RE APPLYING THROUGH THE CITY OF COLUMBUS FOR A VARIANCE OF 25 FOOT SETBACK, CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE MUCH ROOM FOR SIDEWALKS. WELL, THE SIDEWALK GOES IN THE RIGHT WAY. OKAY. YEAH. SO THE SIDEWALK IS ALWAYS ONE FOOT INSIDE THE RIGHT OF WAY. AND THEN OF COURSE, THE SETBACKS ARE BEHIND THAT. OKAY. MY LAST QUESTION IS THE PROPERTY THAT'S IN THE MIDDLE IS THAT IS THAT OCCUPIED OR VACANT OR I GUESS WHAT JUDY'S HERE TO TALK ABOUT. OKAY. MY IF IT WAS OWNED BY MY MOM AND SHE WAS OKAY. SO WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF FIXING IT UP TO RENT IT. AND NOW WE'VE STOPPED. UNDERSTAND? YEAH. AND I, AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND. SO THE, THE RIGHT NOW THE HAMILTON ROAD EXTENSION, THERE'S NO, IT'S NOT ON THE BOOKS YET AS FAR AS WHEN IT'S IF, IF AND WHEN IT'S GOING [00:25:04] TO BE COMPLETED. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. YEAH. I MEAN, THE NORMAL PROCESS WOULD BE TO, YOU KNOW, FROM THE STANDPOINT OF CONTINUING IT FROM WHERE IT EXISTS NOW, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS A COUPLE THOUSAND FEET TO THE LEFT OF THIS PAGE. AND THEN THAT. SO WHAT I HEARD YOU SAYING IS, IS IT COULD HAPPEN OR COULD NOT HAPPEN AND IT COULD GO FURTHER. IT COULD GO STRAIGHT NORTH. WELL, AS PART OF THIS PROCESS, THROUGH THE ZONING PROCESS, WE'LL WE'LL DEFINITELY IDENTIFY THE EXACT ALIGNMENT OF HAMILTON ROAD. WE'RE JUST WE HAD NUMEROUS DISCUSSIONS WITH FRANKLIN COUNTY AND CITY OF COLUMBUS. WE THOUGHT WE HAD IT FINALIZED ON THE ALIGNMENT. AND THEN WITHIN THE LAST FEW MONTHS, WE'VE BEEN WATCHING KIND OF THE PATTERN TO THE WEST AND FOUND THAT ONE OF THE DEVELOPERS OFFERED A DIFFERENT OPTION FOR THE HAMILTON ROAD, WHICH CHANGES THE RADIUS. OKAY. WHICH OF COURSE, THEN AS YOU GET FURTHER ALONG IN THE PATTERN, IT MAY NOT BE IN THIS EXACT LOCATION. SO WE'RE TRYING TO FINALIZE THAT BEFORE WE CONTINUE ON THE ZONING PROCESS. IS THAT A ROUNDABOUT AT HARLEM AND WALNUT? WAS IT PROPOSED TO BE ONE? YEAH. COUNTY. FRANKLIN COUNTY IS PROPOSING A ROUNDABOUT AT THAT LOCATION. OKAY. I KNOW THERE'S A LOT THEY'VE PUT LIGHTS THERE OR THEY USED TO BE A STOP. YEAH. TEMPORARY LIGHTS. CORRECT. SO IS THERE. THAT'S THE COVER OF THE ROUNDABOUT AT 605 WHERE IT'S CLOSED RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OH, JUST BECAUSE THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC GOING THROUGH THERE FLOWING OUT OFF OF 605. GOTCHA. CORRECT. SO IT'LL GO BACK TO JUST BEING STOPPED. OH, OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. INTERESTING. SO THE LONG TERM PLAN IS OF COURSE THE ROUNDABOUT, THAT LOCATION, THE PARKING PARKING SPOTS ARE 300. IS THAT INCLUDE THE GARAGES AS WELL? NO, IT'S 300 SURFACE. PARKING SPOTS AND 48 GARAGE SPOTS. SO TOTAL 348. IT'S LIKE 1.7 CARS PER UNIT, 1.81. AND THE OTHER. THE LAST QUESTION I WAS GOING TO HAVE WAS, I KNOW LIKE IN THE ORIGINAL PLANS THERE ARE YOU ARE TRYING TO SAVE AS MANY TREES ALONG THE BORDER. I KNOW THERE ISN'T A LOT. I MEAN, IT'S BASICALLY AN OPEN FIELD, RIGHT? THAT SECTION IS. AS YOU GET FURTHER DOWN TOWARDS THE ROCKY FORK, IT'S IT'S, IT'S MORE TREED, RIGHT AS FAR AS FOREST AND STUFF, BUT IT'S ALL FARMED CURRENTLY. OR PROPOSED FARM. BUT THERE'S A FARMING LEASE STILL CURRENTLY ON IT. SO I PRESUME IT'S GOING TO BE FARMED THIS YEAR. SO. AND THEN THE LAST PART WAS THE. I NOTICED THAT WHEN WE FIRST REVIEWED THIS WITH THE PACKET WE GOT EARLIER, IT HAD THE ACCESS ON HARLEM AND THE EMERGENCY ACCESS ON WALNUT. AND. AND YOU SAID THAT THE CITY OF COLUMBUS TOLD YOU TO. OR TO GO BACK TO CITY OF COLUMBUS TOLD YOU TO REVERSE THAT. YES. SO YOU SEE, THIS IS THE PROPOSED ALIGNMENT OF NOT ONLY HAMILTON ROAD, BUT HOW THEY PROPOSE HARLEM ROAD TO TIE INTO HAMILTON. CORRECT. SO WITH THAT INTERSECTION OF HARLEM ROAD GOING INTO FUTURE HAMILTON ROAD WOULD HAVE BEEN TOO MUCH. THEY DID NOT LIKE OUR ACCESS BEING ON HAMILTON ROAD. THAT MAKES SENSE. SO WE CONTACTED THE COUNTY AND THE COUNTY HAS NO CONCERNS OF US HAVING ACCESS AND WHAT THE COUNTY CONTROLS. WALNUT CITY CONTROLS HAMILTON ROAD, SO THAT'S WHERE THE ACCESS POINT COMES TO THAT LOCATION NOW. OKAY, THANKS. I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS CONCERNING THE BASIC PROPERTY. OKAY. UP IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER YOU HAVE A LITTLE PIECE CUT OUT THERE. IS THAT ACTUALLY PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT TOO, OR IS THAT A SEPARATE, SEPARATE SINGLE FAMILY HOME THAT'S CURRENTLY OKAY? BECAUSE THE REASON I WAS ASKING IS BECAUSE THAT PARTICULAR HOME, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, IS BEEN BUILT AROUND A PROBABLY NEXT TO THE LAST ONE ROOM SCHOOLHOUSE IN PAYNE TOWNSHIP. OKAY, SO THAT COULD POSSIBLY BE A HISTORICAL VALUE. OKAY. AND THAT, THAT WAS ONE THING THAT I WAS INTERESTED IN. I WAS GLAD TO SEE YOU'RE UP GRADED. THING WITH THE ROUNDABOUT THERE, BECAUSE THAT WAS ONE OF MY CONCERNS. IF YOU'RE PUTTING A ROUNDABOUT, THE FIRST MAJOR STREET NORTH OF THIS AND ONE TO THE EAST OF THIS, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WITH THE TRAFFIC? SO I WAS GLAD TO SEE THAT YOU'RE NOW TALKING ABOUT A ROUNDABOUT. THAT WAS A BIG CONCERN. THE OTHER THING THAT I WAS INTERESTED IN WAS OVER THE YEARS, ANYBODY BUILDING UP ALONG ROCKY FORK CREEK, THEY WERE TRYING TO LEAVE A PATHWAY AVAILABLE TO THE CITY OF COLUMBUS TO GET PEOPLE FROM AS FAR AWAY AS GAHANNA FOLLOWING UP TO ROCKY FORK METRO PARK. AND SO NOW [00:30:06] WE'RE COMING UP HERE TO PROBABLY WITHIN THE LAST QUARTER OF A MILE OF ROCKY FORK METRO PARK. AND THERE'S NO DISCUSSION OF, WELL, WHERE'S THE PARKWAY GO? SO ARE YOU BRINGING PEOPLE ALL THE WAY UP AND DUMP THEM OFF THERE AND SAY, WELL, TAKE THE ROAD OR WHATEVER? OR ARE THEY STILL. THAT'S A GOOD THAT'S A GOOD POINT TO DO IT. THE PARKWAY, I MEAN, MAYBE THE CITY'S ABANDONED IT. THE CITY OF COLUMBUS HAS ABANDONED THAT IDEA. AND I KNOW THERE'S I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A PROPOSED PLAN, BUT THERE IS DEVELOPMENT DIRECTLY TO THE WEST OF OUR DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD PROBABLY TIE INTO SOME KIND OF TRAIL SYSTEM THAT GOES THROUGH THE METRO PARK GROUND THAT'S DUE NORTH OF US. THE PROBLEM WITH THE HAMILTON ROAD ALIGNMENT, IT DOESN'T CONNECT TO THE, YOU KNOW, THE PROPOSED METROPOLITAN YOU KNOW, THE METRO PARKS TO THE NORTH. IS THERE MORE TO THE WEST? THE THE ONE THING THAT SURPRISED ME WAS TO SEE THE PROPOSED ROUTING THERE FOR THE HAMILTON ROAD, BECAUSE I ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT THEY WERE BASICALLY TRYING TO FOLLOW THE HIGH TENSION LINES. I WISH THEY WOULD GOING STRAIGHT UP. WELL, I THOUGHT THAT TOO. IF YOU CALL THEM AND TELL THEM YOUR PREFERENCE, I'LL. I'LL BACK THAT. THERE'S PROBABLY ANOTHER DEVELOPER WHO WOULD DISAGREE WITH YOU. NO, NO, ACTUALLY THE DEVELOPER DIRECTLY TO THE WEST WOULD WOULD LIKE PREFER THAT AS WELL. IT DOESN'T, YOU KNOW, BUT THOSE ARE THE FIRST CONCERNS THAT I HAD THAT AND THE, THE FACT THAT YOU'RE WANTING A VARIANCE TO PUT THE BUILDINGS CLOSER TO THE ROAD AS OPPOSED TO FURTHER AWAY, BECAUSE I CAN'T REMEMBER EITHER EXACTLY WHAT THE. BUT THE FOOTAGE IS. BUT THE, THE WHOLE IDEA FOR THIS ROCKY FORK BLACKLICK ACCORD WAS TO HAVE RURAL CORRIDORS. AND NOW IN THE COLUMBUS AREAS, THE RURAL CORRIDORS HAVE BEEN, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, FORGOTTEN ABOUT OR OR NOT. NOT WANTING TO BE WITH IT BECAUSE THEY THEY WANT TO GET MORE, MORE APARTMENTS PER WELL, PER ACRE. YEAH, I AGREE IN THAT THAT CONCEPT. BUT I ALSO THINK THERE'S A TRADE OFF THERE WITH THE PROTECTION OF THE ROCKY FORK ACCORD WITH US. WE'RE BUYING THE ENTIRE PIECE OF GROUND, AS YOU SEE LOCATED HERE. BUT WE'LL ESSENTIALLY BE PRESERVING ROUGHLY SIX ACRES THAT THAT PIECE BELOW US. WELL, I, I, I, I UNDERSTAND THAT PART OF IT TOO. YEAH. SO THAT'S KIND OF A, YOU KNOW, FROM A STANDPOINT, WE LOOK AT A, I WOULDN'T SAY OPTIMIZING THE ENTIRE PIECE OF GROUND BECAUSE WE'RE NOT WE'RE TRYING TO LOOK AT IT FROM A STANDPOINT, UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A CONCERN ABOUT THE RURAL CHARACTER. BUT WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT TWO PIECES HERE TO WHERE IF WE CAN DEVELOP THE NORTH PIECE AS PROPOSED HERE, WE CAN OFFSET THAT WITH A LARGER, YOU KNOW, PRESERVED AREA ALONG THE ROCKY CORKER CORE OR THE ROCKY FORK CREEK. I'M SORRY. THE ISSUE IS, IS WHAT MIKE'S SAYING IS THAT THE DEVELOPER TO THE WEST OF YOU IS GOING TO STAY THE SAME, IS GOING TO SAY THESE GUYS BUILT OUT A 25 FOOT SETBACK FOR WALNUT. YEAH, WE SHOULD HAVE WE SHOULD BE GET THE SAME BENEFIT. YEAH. SO AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, HALF OF OVER HALF OF YOUR PROPERTY YOU CAN'T DEVELOP. RIGHT. BUT THE NEXT DEVELOPER IS GOING TO COME IN AND SAY, WELL, THEY'RE THEY GOT A 25 FOOT. IF THEY GIVE YOU HALF THE ACRES IN THE PRESERVATION AREA, YOU MIGHT WANT TO AGREE. THEY DON'T HAVE TO. RIGHT. YEAH. YOU KNOW, IT'S ONE OF THOSE, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT, YES, WE'D LIKE TO TO MEET THOSE STANDARDS AND HAVE FULL, YOU KNOW, FULL COMPLIANCE WITH THE PLAN AS, AS WE ALL TRY TO DO. BUT THERE'S SOMETIMES EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCE ON THESE. BUT YEAH, WELL, I, I BELIEVE THAT EVERYTHING FROM A STANDPOINT OF ZONING IS NEGOTIATED UPON THAT THOSE FOUR QUARTERS AND NOT SETTING A PRECEDENT FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. SO IT'S I THINK EVERYTHING IS SET APART WHERE IF HE WAS WILLING TO GIVE 6 OR 7 ACRES AS DEDICATED AREA FOR OPEN SPACE, FOR PRESERVATION OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT NATURAL RESOURCES. I THINK THERE'S DIFFERENT ELEMENTS TO. SO YEAH. MIKE. YEAH. I'M SORRY. LET'S SEE, I GUESS I GUESS THAT'S ABOUT ALL I HAVE AT THIS AT THIS POINT, BUT I, I'M GLAD TO SEE YOU. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A ROUNDABOUT THERE. UNLESS THEY DECIDE TO TAKE HAMILTON STRAIGHT ON UP LIKE I MENTIONED. AND THEN THEN WHAT DOES THAT DO TO, TO YOUR AREA. YOU PROBABLY LIKE IT BECAUSE YOU CAN PUT MORE. I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO. I THINK IT'S GOING TO CHANGE. I THINK IT'S GOING TO STAY RELATIVELY IN THIS AREA. IT JUST MAY GO FURTHER, A LITTLE BIT NORTH IN OUR COMMUNITY, WHICH WON'T ALLOW, YOU KNOW, THEY WANTED TO TIE IT IN SOONER ON HARLEM ROAD, BUT THEY DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE TO BUILD A BRIDGE ACROSS ROCKY FORK CREEK. CORRECT. YEAH. WHICH THEY ALREADY HAVE A CROSSING SOUTH OF THERE. RIGHT. SO YOU'RE RIGHT. THEY'RE AVOIDING. SO NOW THEY'VE, THEY'VE GOTTEN TO THAT POINT. SO THAT WAS THEIR FIRST REQUIREMENT WAS TO GET NORTH OF [00:35:01] ROCKY FORK CREEK. CORRECT. BEFORE THEY TIED IT IN. ABSOLUTELY. BUT FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, IT'S DELAWARE COUNTY IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE GROWING A LOT ON THE SOUTHERN PART THERE ONCE THEY GET THAT THROUGH. HAMILTON. YEAH, THEY'RE WORKING ON SEWER CURRENTLY IN THAT AREA AS WELL. YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LARGE TRUNK SEWER GOING NORTH INTO DELAWARE COUNTY AS PART OF THE COLUMBUS GRAVITY SEWER EXPANSION IN THE AREA. SO THERE IS SOME WORK BEING DONE FOR THAT REASON. YEAH. FUTURE EXPANSION. BUT, YOU KNOW, THOROUGHFARE PLAN CALLS FOR, YOU KNOW, HAMILTON ROAD ALIGNMENT. YOU KNOW, THE ONLY CAVEAT TO OUR DISCUSSION IS DOES IT DOES THIS HAMILTON ROAD GO A LITTLE BIT NORTH ON OUR PROPERTY, WHICH THEN TAKES OUT THOSE, YOU KNOW, 4 OR 5 BUILDINGS THERE? WE PROBABLY WON'T BE BACK TO HAVE ANY FUTURE DISCUSSION WITH YOU IF THAT'S THE CASE. SO COLUMBUS HAS HIRED A CONSULTANT TO ANALYZE THE FUTURE ALIGNMENT OF HAMILTON ROAD. AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, IN THEIR MIND, IT'S GOING TO TAKE THE NEXT 30 DAYS FOR THEM TO DO SO. SO. ARE YOU AWARE OF ANY WETLAND OR ISSUES OR ENVIRONMENTAL PERMITTING ISSUES? THEY'RE ALL JUST THE. YEAH. NO THERE IS THERE'S WETLANDS ON SITE THAT THEY HAPPEN TO ALL EXIST SOUTH OF AND NOT DISTURBEDEDEDEDEDEDEDEDO YEAH, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENTISTS GO OUT THERE AND DO A DELINEATION. SO. OH THANK YOU. YEAH. LIKE I SAID, OUR TREE SURVEY. NO, WE HAVE NOT DONE ANY TREE SURVEY. THE AREA THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS CURRENTLY FARMED. SO THERE IS NO TREES ON THE SITE EXCEPT FOR THE FENCE ROW AND THEN THE TREES IN, IN THE CREEK AREA. SO EVERYTHING THAT WE SHOW HERE IS, AND OF COURSE, ANY EXISTING PRIVATE SEPTIC OR WELL SYSTEMS YOU ABANDONED. CORRECT. YEAH. I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ANYTHING THERE CURRENTLY. THERE'S NO HOUSE ON THERE CURRENTLY. SO JUST I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S INTERESTING YOU SAY THAT HOUSE THERE AT THAT LOCATION BECAUSE THERE'S NO SEWER UP THERE NOW. SO I'M NOT SURE HOW THEIR SEPTIC WORKS OUT TO THE DITCH. WELL IT'S NOT IT'S NOT A VERY LARGE PIECE OF PROPERTY EITHER. NO, BUT IF YOU'RE TRYING TO DO A SEPTIC TANK NOWADAYS, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T. YOU NEED TWO ONE AND A HALF TO TWO ACRES. YEAH. TO, TO BE ABLE TO DO IT PER THE EXISTING CODE. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY DO IT. TRANSFER. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE SCHOOL HOUSE. YEAH. THAT'S ACTUALLY A HOME. YEAH. OCCUPIED HOME. SO I'M NOT SURE ABOUT HOW THEY'RE DOING. YEAH. WATER AND SEWER. YEAH. INTERESTING. SO I MEAN WE'LL HAVE TO. YEAH. I WAS GOING TO ASK IF YOU ALL HAD QUESTIONS. YEAH. SEWER AND WATER ON SEPTIC AND. WELL. YEAH. AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. AND IT'S ALL PART OF THE, YOU KNOW, PART OF OUR DUTY AS DEVELOPERS WILL EXTEND SEWER TO THE PROPERTY LINE. THIS IS THE SCHOOL HOUSE. SO THAT THE LITTLE SCHOOL HOUSE WILL HAVE SEWER THROUGH OUR SITE IN THE FUTURE IF THEY OPT TO THAT IS THAT PROPERTY FOR THE SCHOOL HOUSES. IS THAT CITY OF COLUMBUS ALSO? I DON'T KNOW. GOOD QUESTION HERE. YEAH. WERE THEY NOTIFIED OF THIS? YEAH, ACTUALLY I GAVE THEM THE SAME INFORMATION. YEAH. BEN CALLED AND SAID HE COULDN'T MAKE IT, BUT THAT'S WHY. BUT AS FAR AS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE HOMEOWNER THERE, RIGHT? YEAH. NO, I NOTIFIED THEM. I HAVE THE THE ONES ACROSS THE STREET. YEAH. THEY KNOW THEM HERE. OKAY. I'VE MET THEM A COUPLE OF TIMES. WE'D LIKE TO BUY THE PROPERTY. SO. FROM A, YOU K OBVIOUSLY DEVELOPMENT FROM A HAMILTON ROAD AND CENTRAL COLLEGE EXPANSION, IT'S, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY IT'S NOT THERE YET, BUT A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT WOULD COME THAT WAY. YEAH. I WAS GOING TO ASK IF YOU ALL HAD ANY QUESTIONS. THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE. AND YOU KNOW, IT SOUNDS LIKE THE BIGGEST WILD CARD IS WHEN AND WHERE HAMILTON ROAD IS GOING TO GO. WE USUALLY ARE MORE CONCERNED WITH WHAT HAPPENS INSIDE OF THE YELLOW PART. BUT, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY IT'S A GREAT TIME TO ASK QUESTIONS AND PARTICIPATE IN THE IN THE PROCESS. WELL, OBVIOUSLY, HOW IS THIS IMPACTING THIS PROPERTY AND. SO THIS LOOKS LIKE IT COULD BE DIFFERENT THINGS. WHAT DO WE DO WITH THIS PROPERTY? WE [00:40:12] CAN'T USE IT AS A HOUSE ANYMORE. THERE'S TWO ROADS INTO THE HOUSE. HAS ANYONE FROM THE COUNTY CONTACTED YOU REGARDING ANY OF THAT? NO. YEAH, HE WAS THE FIRST ONE. HE SAID SOMETHING. TO US. IF I MAY ASK YOU. YOU ALSO PLAIN TOWNSHIP. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. I LIVE OR WELL, THIS PROPERTY HERE IS PLAIN TOWNSHIP. SO WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN? YEAH, WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE THAT OUT TOO. WELL, UNFORTUNATELY WE CAN'T. WE DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE ROAD. ALL WE CAN DO IS TALK ABOUT WHAT THE DEVELOPER WANTS TO DO WITH THE ACREAGE. THE ROUND TRIP. PART OF THE PROPERTY HAS TO. THAT'S JUST HOW IT LAYS OUT. WE'RE WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PART OF HAMILTON ROAD PLAN. YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THE ACTUAL ALIGNMENT, CURRENT ALIGNMENT, HAMILTON ROAD, BUT JUST HOW YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, THE PROPERTY LINE LAYS OUT. SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, YOUR PROPERTY IS AT THE VERY CORNER GOES ACROSS HAMILTON ROAD, PROPOSED HAMILTON ROAD AND JUST TOUCHES THE CORNER THERE. MAYBE ONE QUESTION WOULD BE, LET'S JUST ASSUME AS A HYPOTHETICAL THAT HAMILTON ROAD DOES NOT FOLLOW THE ALIGNMENT SHOWN HERE. SO HOW WOULD YOU FEEL? DO YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT THE PROPOSAL TO DEVELOP THIS SITE TO THE NORTHWEST OF YOU? IF YOU IF YOU WERE STILL THERE OR YOU STILL OWN THE PROPERTY, WOULD YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT THEY PROPOSED? WELL, I MEAN, I GREW UP IN NEW ALBANY, SO THERE'S BEEN LOTS OF CHANGES. SURE. SO YEAH, I MEAN, I WOULD RATHER THIS LOVELY TWO AND A HALF ACRES OF LAND THAT HAS APARTMENTS, OBVIOUSLY, THAT'S THAT'S OFFERING SO BUT I DON'T THINK. ACROSS THE ROOM NEXT DOOR, YOU. YEAH. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. OKAY. SO THIS IS A PROCESS JUST TO HAVE A CONVERSATION AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE. THERE'LL BE ANOTHER MEETING THAT WILL BE TO MAKE A DECISION. SO THESE ARE ALL THE THE INPUTS AT LEAST THAT THAT WE HAVE. AND AT SOME POINT WE PROBABLY NEED TO KNOW WHERE THE ROAD IS GOING TO BE. AND SOME OF THOSE OTHER THINGS, WHEN THAT BECOMES KNOWN, THEN THERE'LL BE ANOTHER MEETING WHERE WE'LL VOTE ON, ON THE PROPOSAL. WELL, IF I MAY SAY, I WOULD BE A LITTLE RELUCTANT TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF IT, NOT KNOWING WHERE THE ROAD'S ULTIMATELY GOING TO BE, BECAUSE IT'S IMPACTING THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN HERE FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. I MEAN, IT'S INHERITED PROPERTY FROM FROM HER PARENTS, YOUR MOTHER AND FATHER BOTH. SO I, I WOULD BE RELUCTANT TO SAY, YEAH, I, I THINK THIS IS GREAT WHEN WE DON'T EVEN KNOW IF, IN FACT, THERE'S GOING TO BE A ROAD THERE. IT COULD BE ON THE OTHER SIDE AND HE'D BE HAPPIER, SHE'D BE HAPPIER, AND I WOULD BE TOO. YEAH. YES. ARE YOU JUST IN A HOLDING PATTERN? UNTIL YOU FIND OUT MORE ABOUT THE ROAD MEETING SET UP NEXT WEEK WITH THE CITY OF COLUMBUS? YEAH, BECAUSE IT DEFINITELY AFFECTS YOUR LAYOUT. YEAH. CORRECT. YEAH. WE'RE WE'RE KIND OF, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY GATHERING INFORMATION NOW, OR WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE TRAFFIC DEPARTMENT AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, THE TYPICAL TRAFFIC STUDY, YOU KNOW, ALIGNMENT ITEMS. YOU KNOW, PART OF THIS PROCESS IS WE'RE WORKING WITH WITH CITY OF COLUMBUS AND FRANKLIN COUNTY. AS FAR AS THOSE ISSUES, YOU KNOW, BEING WE'RE CHANGING LOCATIONS OF THE ACTUAL ENTRY ON THE WALNUT STREET. SO THERE'S VARIOUS THINGS, BUT WE'RE CONTINUING TO, YOU KNOW, FINALIZE THE ALIGNMENT OF HAMILTON ROAD AND THEN FINALIZE THE PLAN AND THEN COME BACK TO YOU ALL. HAVE THEY GIVEN YOU ANY TIME FRAME FOR THE ROAD DECISION AS TO WHEN THE LATEST AUGUST, LATEST. AUGUST. YEAH. OKAY. IF YOU IF THEY DECIDE TO PUT HAMILTON ROAD FURTHER TO THE WEST, HOW MANY ADDITIONAL BUILDINGS? SAME CONSTRUCTION AND EVERYTHING. WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO FIT ON THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY? I THINK YOU PROBABLY GET 268 UNITS AN ADDITIONAL, AN ADDITIONAL OR A COUPLE MORE [00:45:08] BUILDINGS. OKAY. YEAH. I MEAN, WITHOUT HAMILTON ROAD BEING THERE, OF COURSE. YEAH. RIGHT. THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. CORRECT. AND I, I'M NOT, YOU KNOW, IF I WAS A BETTING PERSON, I'D SAY HAMILTON ROAD IS GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS PROPERTY BECAUSE I THINK THE ALIGNMENT GOING NORTH IS NOT AN OPTION THAT, YOU KNOW, IS THERE'S NO CONNECTION POINT GOING NORTH BECAUSE OF THE METROPARKS KIND OF STANDS IN THE WAY. SO, YOU KNOW, METROPARKS DOESN'T SEE IT FROM YOUR LARGER MAP THERE. CAN YOU SHOW JUST HOW FAR DOWN THE METROPARKS COME? WALNUT STREET? YEAH, THAT'S METROPARKS THEY OWN DOWN TO THEY, THEY OWN DOWN TO WALNUT STREET. RIGHT. AND IT GOES OVER TO. WELL THAT'S A BIG PARCEL. YEAH. I MEAN IT'S A SIZABLE TRACK AROUND THERE. NORTH. WELL I KNOW THEY OWN A LOT NORTH THERE, BUT WHEN THEY WERE BUYING UP THE PROPERTY THEY BOUGHT HERE AND THERE AND EVERYWHERE. CORRECT. AND THAT'S WHAT I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS EXACTLY. WE COULD BRING AN EXHIBIT BACK OF THAT FOR FUTURE MEETINGS. OKAY. BECAUSE IT'S IT'S A PRETTY SIZABLE TRAFFIC GROUND THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO AVOID, YOU KNOW, THE ALIGNMENT OF HAMILTON. WE PREFER IT TO GO THROUGH THERE. TRUST ME. YOU KNOW, IT'S ONE OF THOSE DISCUSSION POINTS. OF THAT, YOU KNOW, THE ALIGNMENT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, ASSUMPTIONS ARE, YOU KNOW, HAMILTON ROAD WOULD BE BETTER SERVED IF IT'S GOING, YOU KNOW, IN A NORTHERN FASHION. BUT IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN THEIR PROPERTY WOULD CHANGE IN THE STREET. I'M SORRY. HER QUESTION LIKE, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN? WELL, IF THE ROAD DOESN'T GO THERE, YOU OWN KIND OF A ODD PIECE WITH THEIR LOT RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF IT. CORRECT. SO THAT PUTS THEIR INTEREST NOW EVEN GREATER OF WHAT WOULD HAPPEN. CORRECT. YEAH. I MEAN, WELL, PRETTY MUCH THE SOUTHERN SIDE OF THEIR PROPERTY LINE IS NOT IS CAN'T BE DISTURBED BECAUSE OF THE CREEK AND SOME OF THE WESTERN PORTION OF IT AS WELL. BUT YES, THE, THE BUILDINGS WOULD, YOU KNOW, BE ENCROACHING CLOSER. CORRECT. SO AT THE TIME THAT WE ARE REALLY DISCUSSING THIS FOR A DECISION, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT DATA TO WORK WITH. ABSOLUTELY. WELL, GOOD LUCK WITH THE ROAD. YEAH. BEEN A WHILE. YEAH. WE, WE'VE, WE BUILT A PORTION OF THE HAMILTON ROAD ALREADY COMING UP FROM CENTRAL COLLEGE. SO AND WE'VE DEVELOPED, YOU KNOW, A LOT WITH THE WEILER GROUP, WEILER AND KELLY GROUP, SOUTH CENTRAL COLLEGE, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THAT PORTION AND STUFF. SO IT'S BEEN AN ONGOING PROCESS. YOU KNOW, I'VE BUILT IN THIS AREA SINCE THE MID 90S. PERSONALLY, I WAS ONE OF THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGERS THAT BUILT OVER ON WARREN ROADS AND CONDOMINIUMS. AND WE'VE DEVELOPED UP AND DOWN WARNER ROAD AND FUTURE HAMILTON PARKWAY. IF I MAY ASK WHY, IF YOU'VE BEEN SO INVOLVED IN EVERYTHING, YOU MIGHT YOU MIGHT KNOW THE ANSWER THAT I'VE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO COME UP WITH. WHY HAVE THEY MADE IT SO NARROW OF A ROAD? HAMILTON ROAD, NORTH OF 161. YOU KNOW, IT'S BECAUSE I THINK DEVELOPER ORIGINALLY NOT ME, BUT THE THE PREVIOUS DEVELOPER, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS THEIR ORIGINAL PROPOSITION. AND IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN, YOU KNOW, I HAD TO PAY INTO IT TO FOR FUTURE EXPANSION OF IT OVER THE YEARS. I THINK IT'S JUST TIMING. IT'S, IT'S, IT'S PROPOSED TO BE WIDENED, YOU KNOW, FROM 161 TO CENTRAL COLLEGE AT SOME POINT IN TIME. I THINK, YOU KNOW, IT HASN'T BEEN, BUT IT DIDN'T LOOK LIKE THEY EVEN LEFT ENOUGH SPACE TO WIDEN IT. THERE'S I MEAN, FROM A RIGHT OF WAY STANDPOINT, THERE'S ENOUGH SPACE THROUGH EVERYBODY'S RIGHT OF WAY PLAN TO CONTINUE TO WIDEN IT. SO THAT'S BEEN PART OF THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN. AND EVERYBODY HAS, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY FOLLOWED THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE SEEN, YOU KNOW, THE DEVELOPMENTS SOUTH OF CENTRAL COLLEGE, YOU KNOW, MINUS THE INTERSECTION THERE AT WARNER ROAD ITSELF. BUT A LOT OF THOSE SETBACKS HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, PUT IN PLACE TO BASICALLY ALLOW FUTURE EXPANSION OF THAT. YEAH, I KNOW A NUMBER OF MEETINGS OVER THE YEARS, PEOPLE IN THAT AREA HAVE ALL HAD MORE COMPLAINTS THAN COMPLIMENTS ON THE WAY THAT THAT ROAD IS EXTENDED NORTH. UNDERSTOOD. SO YEAH, IS THE WATER AND SEWER, IS THAT GOING TO FALL? WHERE WILL THAT WILL COME UP HAMILTON ROAD OR HOW IS THAT FOR THIS AREA? MOST OF THE TRUNKS ARE FOR THIS IS GOING TO [00:50:04] COME UP ACTUALLY HARLAN ROAD. YEAH, YEAH. SO. OKAY. DID WE HAVE ANY OTHER ANY OTHER BUSINESS. OKAY. WE CAN. SO WE'LL BE BACK AT SOME FUTURE DATE WHEN MORE INFORMATION IS KNOWN. AND WITH THAT SAID, WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT. I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS OFF OF THIS SUBJECT. YEAH. AND THAT IS DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY KNOWLEDGE AS TO WHEN THEY'RE PLANNING ON REOPENING? 605 SOUTH FOR THE ROUNDABOUT? IS IT WALNUT STREET? I'M NOT SURE. I, I DROVE PAST TODAY AND IT LOOKED LIKE IT WAS PRETTY WELL DONE. THEY HAD THE BASE LAYER OF THE PAVEMENT DOWN, BUT THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE FINAL CODE AND I DIDN'T KNOW, BUT THERE WASN'T ANYBODY WORKING THERE TODAY. THERE WAS ONE TRUCK. THERE WAS A GUY WALKING AROUND WITH A SHOVEL, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW. YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WHAT THE TIMING WAS BECAUSE THEY'RE ALSO GOING TO BE CLOSING. 605 SOUTH OF CENTRAL COLLEGE AT THE END OF THE MONTH. AND THAT'S GOING TO BE CLOSED FOR THE SUMMER. AND THAT'S WHY I WAS WONDERING IF THERE WAS ANY ANY INFORMATION ON THAT. AND THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE, BECAUSE I GOT A QUESTION FROM SOMEONE THAT THE PROPERTY ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF WALNUT STREET, EAST OF 605, WHERE THEY'RE PUTTING IN THE NEW HIGH TENSION POWER LINES COMING DOWN INTO THE BUSINESS PARK, HAS THAT PROPERTY ALREADY BEEN ASSIGNED AS BEING A BUSINESS PROPERTY? BECAUSE THE INFORMATION I GOT WAS OFF OF SOMEBODY'S FACEBOOK PAGE. WANTING TO KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON THERE. AND THERE WAS A LOT OF NEGATIVES BEING PUT ON FACEBOOK AS TO IT, BUT IT LOOKED TO ME LIKE IT WAS IN AN AREA THAT WAS PROBABLY ALREADY APPROVED FOR THAT TYPE OF A BUSINESS, AND THAT'S WHY THEY GOT THE APPROVAL TO PUT THE POWER LINES THROUGH AND EVERYTHING. OKAY. I'M SORRY, I DON'T KNOW. MONSTROUS TOWERS SO FAR. YEAH. RIGHT OFF THE RIGHT THERE NEXT TO THE COMMUNITY CENTER THAT PEOPLE PARK. YEAH, THEY'RE TYING OFF THAT LINE THEY REBUILT A FEW YEARS AGO. I HAVE A GENERAL QUESTION ABOUT SCHOOL SYSTEMS AND SCHOOLS. WHEN WE LOOK AT SOMETHING LIKE THIS. MIKE, WHAT IS THE ADDRESS OF THAT PROPERTY BEFORE WE MOVE ON? WHAT WAS THE ADDRESS OF THE PROPERTY YOU'RE SEEKING TO KNOW ABOUT? I'M NOT REALLY SURE. I WOULD YEAH. WELL, YES. SOUDER ROAD IS IN THERE CLOSE BY. I WANT TO SAY STREETS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT WAS THE NAME. THERE'S ALREADY THEY ALREADY HAVE ONE BUILDING THERE AND IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE DEVELOPING IT, BUT THEY'RE ALSO TAKING UP SOME WETLAND AREA. AND THAT'S CAUSING PEOPLE PROBLEM BECAUSE THERE'S SOME SORT OF EXOTIC BAT THAT LIVES THERE OR SOMETHING. I DON'T KNOW, BUT. IF YOU TAKE 605 IN NEW ALBANY ROAD EAST AND YOU GO NORTHEAST OF THAT INTERSECTION, THAT'S THE AREA. THERE'S SEVERAL OTHER BUSINESS BUILDINGS THERE. IT'S DIAGONAL FROM THE PROPERTY THAT USED TO BE DISCOVERED. DISCOVER CARD. AND ACKERMAN, REALTOR. REAL ESTATE REALTOR BUILDING RIGHT IN THAT CORNER. ACKERMAN'S GOT THEIR BUILDINGS RIGHT TO THE NORTH EAST SIDE OF THAT. OKAY, YOU YOU HAVE DEAN FARM ROAD NORTH. WITH ONE ROW OF HOUSES BETWEEN THERE AND THE SORT OF WHERE THE PROPERTY IS JUST SOUTH OF. WELL, IF YOU TAKE DEAN ROAD NORTH, IT GOES RIGHT O ROCKY FORK METRO PARK. AND IT'S THAT AREA RIGHT THERE. IT JOINS ON WALNUT STREET. SO, MIKE, YOU SAID ACROSS FROM THE DISCOVER SITE, KIND OF DIAGONAL. DIAGONAL. YEAH. DISCOVER WOULD BE ON THE SOUTH SOUTHWEST CORNER. IS IT THE EDGE? OH, I THOUGHT IT WAS THIS ONE. THE I THINK IT'S THE AEP SUBSTATION THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT. IT'S RIGHT THERE OFF THE ROAD. OH. AT THE END OF THE ROAD. YEAH. YEAH. THAT'S THE SUBSTATION. THE AEP SUBSTATIONS GOING IN THERE. OKAY. BECAUSE THAT WASN'T THE NAME ON THE [00:55:09] INFORMATION, BUT OKAY, I'LL DO SOME MORE RESEARCH ON IT AND SEE IF I CAN. YEAH. FEEL FREE TO SHOOT ME AN EMAIL AND YEAH, FOR SURE. OKAY. THANK YOU. I MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. OKAY. OKAY. TOO LATE. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY DISAPPROVAL ON * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.