[I. Call to order]
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          GOOD EVENING. AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER THE NEW ALBANY ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD MEETING FOR MONDAY, JULY 13TH. CHRISTINE, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? MR. HINSON HERE. MR. ITEM. MR. BROWN HERE, MISS. MOORE HERE. MR. MALICE HERE. MR. DAVIE HERE. 
          MR. STRAW HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. BRISK. HERE. HERE ARE SIX VOTING MEMBERS PRESENT. WE HAVE 
          [III. Action on minutes: June 8, 2026]
A QUORUM. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY ACTION ON THE MINUTES FOR THE JUNE 8TH, 2026 MEETING? I HAVE ONE MINOR CORRECTION ON PAGE THREE, PARAGRAPH THREE. THE STATEMENT ATTRIBUTED TO ME. 
          I WAS ASKING ABOUT THE HOW OFTEN THE STONE IS APPROVED VERSUS THE HARDIE BOARD. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? CORRECTIONS. WITH THAT MINOR CORRECTION, COULD I MAKE AN ACTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM JUNE 8TH, 2026? SO MOVED. I'LL. SECOND. MR. YES. MR. BROWN. YES. 
          MR. HINSON. YES. MISS. MOORE. YES. MR. MALICE ABSTAIN. MR. DAVEY. YES. THERE ARE. THE AYES HAVE IT. THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED AS CORRECTED WITH FIVE VOTES. THANK YOU. STAFF, ARE 
          [IV. Additions or corrections to the agenda]
THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO TONIGHT'S AGENDA? YES. UNDER OTHER BUSINESS, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THE INFORMAL REVIEW OF THE ATHLETIC CAMPUS PHASE ONE A. AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO ADMINISTER THE OATH TO ALL WITNESSES AND APPLICANTS WHO PLAN TO ADDRESS THE BOARD. 
          IF YOU WOULD PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY VISITORS HERE FOR ITEMS NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA? SEEING 
          [VI. Cases]
NONE, I'D LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR FIRST CASE. FTP 32 2026 AT 6600 NEW ALBANY CONDUIT ROAD. REQUEST FOR RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL FOR FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN OF THE 605 NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE DISTRICT. THE APPLICANT IS ROB RIDDLE. CAN WE HAVE THE STAFF REPORT, PLEASE? YES. GOOD AFTERNOON. THIS IS THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN, AS YOU SAID, FOR 6600 NEW ALBANY ROAD, WHICH IS LOCATED RIGHT HERE AT THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE VILLAGE CENTER AND ALONG 161. IT IS SURROUNDED BY A RURAL RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AND OFFICE USES TO THE NORTH. SO THIS WAS RECENTLY REZONED TO INFILL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, ALONG WITH A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE ARB IN OCTOBER AND APPROVED BY COUNCIL EARLIER THIS YEAR. IT IS NOW AT THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN STAGE, WHERE THE ZONING TEXT STATES THAT THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD SHALL EVALUATE THE FDP WITH THE SAME CONSIDERATIONS AS THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WHICH IS INCLUDED IN THE STAFF REPORT. 
          THE ARB WILL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. THIS IS THE SITE PLAN AND THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS CONSISTENT WITH THE APPROVED PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN. THE STRATEGIC PLAN IDENTIFIES THIS AREA AS A TYPE OF AUTHENTIC ENVIRONMENT THAT OFFICE USERS ARE SEEKING, HIGHLIGHTING ADDING OFFICE SPACE TO THE VILLAGE CENTER AS IMPORTANT EFFORT AND CAREFUL INTEGRATION AND APPROPRIATE DESIGN OF OFFICE DEVELOPMENT WILL EXPAND THE CITY'S OFFERINGS. THE EXISTING HOUSE WILL REMAIN, AS WELL AS THE EXISTING ACCESSORY STRUCTURE, WHICH IS BACK HERE. THE ENTRY DRIVE WILL REMAIN AND THERE'S GOING TO BE NEW PAVEMENT NEXT TO AND BEHIND THE HOUSE FOR THE NEW PARKING AREA, WHICH HAS 20 PARKING SPACES, WHICH IS ALLOWED BY THE ZONING TEXT. IT ALSO HAS A SIX FOOT TALL WALL, FULL OPACITY WALL ALONG THE SOUTHERN PROPERTY LINE TO FULLY SCREEN IT FROM THE ADJACENT PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH. THIS SHOWS THE FRONT ELEVATION AND THE REAR ELEVATION. WHAT'S EXISTING? THE EXISTING ELEVATIONS WITH WHAT'S SHOWN IN RED IS EITHER BEING REMOVED OR MODIFIED, AND SO THE PHOTOS, THE ELEVATIONS ON THE BOTTOM THERE SHOW WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED WITH UPDATED WINDOWS, A TRADITIONAL COMMERCIAL STOREFRONT WHICH IS ENCOURAGED 
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BY THE DESIGN GUIDELINES AND REQUIREMENTS WHILE STILL RETAINING AN EXISTING RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER AND THE ORIGINAL QUALITIES OF THE BUILDINGS. THERE IS MINIMAL ILLUMINATION, WITH TWO INCH TALL ILLUMINATORS THAT ARE GOING TO HELP PEDESTRIAN VISIBILITY INTO THE FRONT AND REAR OF THE PROPOSED OFFICE. AND THEN WE HAVE ADDITIONAL LIGHTING THAT IS THREE FEET IN HEIGHT AND SHIELDED THAT IS, ALONG THE ENTRYWAY AND ILLUMINATES THE PARKING LOT. AND AS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR REZONING, THE APPLICANT WAS TO PROVIDE SPECIFICATIONS OF THE SHARED ENTRY DRIVE IN THE RIGHT OF WAY TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. SO THE APPLICANT IS EXTENDING THIS MEDIAN HERE. 
          THERE'S A WHITE LINE THAT KIND OF SHOWS WHERE THIS PROPERTY LINE IS. THEY ARE EXTENDING IT A LITTLE BIT MORE TOWARDS THE RIGHT OF WAY TO HELP DELINEATE THOSE TWO ENTRYWAYS. AND AS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL BY THE IN THE ENGINEERING COMMENTS, THEY WILL ALSO NEED TO INSTALL A STOP SIGN AND A STOP BAR. SO THAT SHOULD HELP DELINEATE THAT ENTRYWAY AS WELL. AGAIN, THE FDP IS CONSISTENT WITH THE APPROVED PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN. THIS IS USING THE EXISTING HOUSE AND ACCESSORY STRUCTURES. AND WE'LL JUST CONVERT THAT TO OFFICE USE WITH NEW PARKING, NEW SCREENING, SOME SLIGHT MINOR ARCHITECTURAL ENHANCEMENTS ON THE EXTERIOR, SOME ILLUMINATION AND LANDSCAPING. THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL ARE INCLUDED HERE, AND I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL AS THE APPLICANT. THANK YOU. THE APPLICANT HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY? NO QUESTIONS. I JUST HAD A QUICK QUESTION FOR STAFF REGARDING THE ENGINEER'S COMMENTS. THEY'RE FAIRLY EXTENSIVE. THEY'VE GOT NINE DIFFERENT COMMENTS ON THE PLAN. 
          AND THEN HE'S GOT TWO ADDITIONAL ONES REGARDING TRAFFIC. THERE IS A CONDITION NUMBER FIVE THAT THAT THEY BE ADDRESSED THE STAFF'S APPROVAL. BUT I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT STAFF THINKS ABOUT WHETHER WHETHER OR NOT THAT IS SUFFICIENT OR IF THOSE NEED TO BE SORT OF REVIEWED AND DISCUSSED A BIT BEFORE THIS BOARD'S APPROVAL. IF ANY OF THE ENGINEERING COMMENTS REQUIRE MAJOR CHANGES, I BELIEVE IT WOULD COME BACK BEFORE THE BOARD. BUT DOES THAT SOUND RIGHT? YEAH. I MEAN, IF IF THIS WAS APPROVED AND THEN PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVED IT AND THEN ENGINEERING CAUSED THE SITE, YOU KNOW, CHANGE OR WHATNOT, IT WOULD COME BACK. IT'S FAIRLY NORMAL TO ADDING ON LAUREN AND SIERRA SAID IT'S FAIRLY NORMAL FOR AN APPLICATION LIKE THIS TO HAVE THAT MANY ENGINEERING COMMENTS. IT'S JUST THESE APPLICATIONS TYPICALLY GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, BUT THE NUMBER OF COMMENTS ON THIS APPLICATION ARE NOT ABNORMAL TO. OKAY, YEAH, THERE'S A LOT OF COMMENTS, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF ADDITIONAL STUDY THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IN ORDER TO PROVIDE OR COMPLETE THOSE, THOSE PARTICULAR. YEAH, THAT'S AGAIN, PRETTY NORMAL FOR AN APPLICATION LIKE THIS. OKAY. I HAD A FEW SCOPE QUESTIONS. THE I'M LOOKING AT THE SUBMISSION PACKET AND I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM WHAT I SEE AS EXPLAINED ON THE SITE PLAN. AND I'M GOING TO REFERENCE THE SHEET THAT I'M LOOKING AT HERE. SO PROPOSED SITE PLAN PAGE TEN NOTES THE PROPOSED OFFICE, WHICH IS AN EXISTING STRUCTURE. AND THEN IT NOTES AN EXISTING ACCESSORY BUILDING TO THE REAR SOUTH EAST. THE FOLLOWING PAGE, PAGE 13, SHOWS WHAT APPEARS TO BE THE EXISTING ACCESSORY STRUCTURE. AND THEN LASTLY, I SEE PAGE 18 REFERENCES A PROPOSED ACCESSORY BUILDING. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND. IS THAT A TEAR DOWN, OR IS THAT A MODIFICATION TO THE EXISTING STRUCTURE? HI EVERYONE, SO IMPORTANT TO YOU. I ALSO WORKED ON THIS PROJECT FOR THE EXISTING SITE PLAN. THAT BUILDING IS EXISTING, SO IT WOULD BE RENOVATED TO MATCH THE HIGHER QUALITY OF THE NEW SITE. SO IT IS EXISTING AND WE WOULD MAINTAIN THE USE OF THE EXISTING STRUCTURE, BUT REFURBISH IT IS. BUT I SEE AS NOTED HERE. THANK YOU. IT LOOKS LIKE IT SAYSUREE OFFICE OR STORAGE. SO FUTURE USE IS INDETERMINATE AT THIS POINT. AND DOES THAT HAVE ANY BEARING ON OUR ACTION ON THIS AS FAR AS IT RELATES TO. THE NEXT STEPS THAT THE APPLICANT NEEDS TO GO THROUGH? SO PERMITTED IN THE 
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ZONING TEXT IS THE OFFICE USE IN GENERAL, WHICH IS GOING TO BE INSTITUTED EITHER WAY? CORRECT. AND AS WELL AS PARTIAL STORE LIKE STORAGE IN PART OF THAT ACCESSORY STRUCTURE. SO BOTH ARE PERMITTED EITHER OFFICE COMPLETELY OR OFFICE AND STORAGE. THANK YOU. AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION FOR THE MOMENT WAS AT ONE POINT WHEN I BELIEVE WHEN WE REVIEWED THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP WAS FUTURE EXPANDABILITY. 
          BEYOND THE EXISTING STRUCTURES ON THE PROPERTY. AND AGAIN, I'M GOING FROM RECOLLECTION, BUT THERE WAS A CONSIDERATION THAT THERE MAY BE FUTURE BUILDINGS ON THE PROPERTY BEYOND WHAT IS HERE TODAY OR WHAT IS BEING PRESENTED TODAY. WOULD THOSE NEED TO BE BROUGHT BACK BEFORE THE BOARDS, AND WOULD IT REQUIRE A NEW DEVELOPMENT PLAN? IF SO, BECAUSE I DON'T SEE ANY REFERENCE TO ANY FUTURE BUILDINGS ON THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT PLAN. CORRECT. I BELIEVE IT WAS INSTITUTED IN THE ZONING TEXT BY THE TIME IT REACHED COUNCIL THAT THE EXISTING, AT LEAST THE EXISTING HOME WOULD REMAIN EITHER WAY, SO IT MIGHT EVEN NEED BRAND NEW REZONING, WHICH I CAN DOUBLE CHECK IN A SECOND HERE. BUT YES, IT WOULD ABSOLUTELY AT LEAST NEED A NEW FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN IF THERE WERE TO REDEVELOP IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. WHAT KIND OF WHAT KIND OF STORAGE IS PERMITTED? I CAN PULL THAT UP REAL QUICK. I BELIEVE IT IS STORAGE THAT IT ADVANCES OR IS USED BY THE OFFICE. SO IT IS JUST AUXILIARY FOR THE OFFICE SPACE. YEAH. CAN YOU CONFIRM THAT THE FENCE ON THE SOUTH BOUNDARY OF THE PROPERTY IS IS WOOD. IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY. AND DOES THE APPLICANT HAVE ANY. ISSUES WITH ANY OF THE CONDITIONS? NOW A LOT OF THE ENGINEERING TRAFFIC OR THE ENGINEERING COMMENTS, I'D SAY MOST OF THEM HAVE ALREADY BEEN ADDRESSED. AND FURTHERMORE WOULD BE IN THE PERMIT SUBMISSION AND THEN FIVE FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE FOR THE PAVEMENT. THAT'S GOOD. YEAH. 
          AND I DID CHECK THE ZONING TEXT. AND I DO WANT TO SPECIFY THAT THE STORAGE HAS TO BE ASSOCIATED. IT SAYS LIMITED TO MATERIALS AND EQUIPMENT ASSOCIATED WITH THE PERMITTED USE IN THIS ZONING DISTRICT. SO IT WILL BE ESSENTIALLY AUXILIARY TO THE OFFICE USE. SO IF YOU'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH ROBIN'S TEAM, IT WOULD BE FOR HOME STAGING EQUIPMENT. SO UNDER THE CURRENT PROPOSED PLAN, THIS SITE WOULD ALLOW FOR TWO LEASABLE SPACES. CORRECT. OKAY. 
          I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS. I HAVE NO OTHER COMMENTS. I'LL MAKE A MOTION. I MOVE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN OF APPLICATION. FDP 32 2026 TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL. THE PARKING LOT PAVEMENT SHALL BE AT LEAST FIVE FEET AWAY FROM THE SOUTHERN PROPERTY LINE TO ALL LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS SHALL BE MET. THREE AT LEAST TWO OF THE THREE PROPOSED EVERGREEN TREES SHALL BE DECIDUOUS CANOPY TREES FOR A BIKE RACK SHALL BE INSTALLED ON THE SITE. FIVE THE ENGINEER'S COMMENTS REGARDING THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND THE TRAFFIC ACCESS STUDY SHALL BE ADDRESSED BY THE APPLICANT. I'LL SECOND. MR. HENSON. YES, MISS MOORE YES. MR. STROLLER YES. MR. BROWN YES. MR. MULLINS YES. THE AYES HAVE IT WITH ALL VOTES TO APPROVE TO RECOMMEND THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. WITH THE CONDITIONS IN THE STAFF REPORT. THANK YOU. GOOD LUCK. THE NEXT CASE IS A OR B 36, 2026 AT 6905 CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD. IT'S FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE USE OF HARDY BOARD AND STONE EXTERIOR MATERIALS ON A NEW HOME, WITH WAIVERS FOR DDR SECTIONS ONE I, G AND FIVE TWO B TWO. REGARDING CONTEMPORARY ARCHITECTURAL STYLE FIVE TWO F FOUR TO ALLOW STONE CHIMNEYS 1IE REGARDING THE VISIBILITY OF THE GARAGE AND FIVE TWO B THREE TO ALLOW DOUBLE BAY GARAGE DOORS AT 6905 CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD. THE APPLICANT IS OLD WORLD CUSTOM HOMES. PATRICK MILLER STAFF 
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COULD WE HAVE YOUR REPORT, PLEASE? ABSOLUTELY. SO THIS WAS HEARD ORIGINALLY LAST MONTH BY THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD ON JUNE 8TH. THIS IS THE SITE HERE ON CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD. 
          CEDARBROOK IS JUST BEHIND IT HERE. AND THIS IS A QUICK SITE PLAN JUST TO GIVE SOME CONTEXT AND SOME REFERENCE FOR THE NEW HOME, SINCE I KNOW MOST OF YOU WERE NOT HERE AS PART OF THE BOARD LAST MONTH. THE NEW DEVELOPMENT IS ON THIS UNDEVELOPED PARCEL. IT HAS THE MAIN MASS HERE, ACCESS FROM CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD, AND THERE IS A GARAGE HERE AND THEN IT EXTENDS BACK. SO AS I SAID, IT WAS ORIGINALLY ORIGINALLY HEARD LAST MONTH, AND THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD HAD SEVERAL CONCERNS THAT THEY VOICED AND IT WAS TABLED FOR THAT REASON, NAMELY, THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD FOUND THE GARAGE MASS TO BE OVERLY LARGE AND ARCHITECTURALLY UNRELATED TO THE REST OF THE HOUSE. THEY ASKED THAT THE APPLICANT REDUCE THE HEIGHT OF THE GARAGE AND WORK WITH THE CITY ARCHITECT TO AGREE TO A SINGLE, COHESIVE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE. ADDITIONALLY, REWORKED MASS MASSING AND FORM OF THE GARAGE PROVIDE MORE VIEWS OF THE HOUSE. THEY WANTED 3D RENDERINGS TO GIVE MORE CONTEXT TO THE ELEVATIONS THAT WERE PROVIDED, AND THEN USE MORE COHESIVE PLACEMENT OR HIERARCHY OF MATERIALS ON THE EXTERIOR ELEVATIONS. SO TODAY, THE APPLICATION INCLUDES THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS ITSELF, WHICH IS FOR THE USE OF HARDIE BOARD AND STONE AS EXTERIOR MATERIALS ON THE ELEVATIONS. AND IT INCLUDES FOUR WAIVERS WHICH ARE OUTLINED HERE. WAIVERS A AND B WERE CARRIED OVER WITH SOME CONSIDERATIONS REMOVED, WHICH I HAVE INCLUDED, BUT THEY ARE CROSSED OUT AND LIGHTENED A LITTLE BIT IN HERE. SO THE APPLICANT HAS ADDRESSED SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS. THERE'S NOW WINDOWS THAT MEET THE DGRS, THE ELEMENTS ON THE OF THE ARCHITECTURE DO NOT MIX STYLES, AND THE GARAGE HEIGHT HAS BEEN REDUCED TO MEET DJR REQUIREMENTS AT THE DIRECTION OF THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD. LAST MONTH, THE APPLICANT WORKED WITH THE CITY ARCHITECT TO ADDRESS THE AFOREMENTIONED AFOREMENTIONED CONCERNS. THE ARB STATED THAT IF THE APPLICANT IS ABLE TO REDUCE SOME OF THE ORIGINAL WAIVERS, IT WOULD FEEL BETTER WITH GRANTING THE REQUESTS, ESPECIALLY WITH NON-NEGOTIABLE ITEMS SUCH AS REDUCING THE GARAGE HEIGHT AND MAKING THE FULL HOUSE MORE COHESIVE. SO FOLLOWING CORRESPONDENCE WITH THE CITY ARCHITECT, THE TWO NEW WAIVERS HERE HELP GRANT THESE NON-NEGOTIABLE ITEMS AND REDUCE THE ORIGINAL WAIVERS. SO WE DO HAVE A WAIVER FOR ONE GARAGE DOOR TO BE DOUBLE BAY AND FOUR CHIMNEYS TO HAVE STONE INSTEAD OF BRICK. THIS IS OUR FRONT ELEVATION. THE PROPOSAL THAT WAS SEEN LAST MONTH BY THE ARB AND THE UPDATED ELEVATION HERE, WHAT IS UPDATED IS SHOWN IN THAT YELLOW COLOR. WE HAVE STONE HERE INSTEAD OF THE HARDIE BOARD TO CREATE A MORE CONSISTENT MATERIAL HIERARCHY. AND THE MATERIALS HAVE BEEN MOVED AROUND A BIT TO REPRESENT A MORE COHERENT HIERARCHY LIKE THAT. AND THE STONE CREATES A CENTRAL FOCUS AND SYMMETRY IN THE MAIN ENTRANCE. THE ARB ALSO REQUESTED RENDERINGS AND THE APPLICANT PROVIDED RENDERINGS. 
          THE GARAGE GABLE HAS BEEN TURNED, AS WAS RECOMMENDED BY THE CITY ARCHITECT, AND ITS HEIGHT REDUCED A NEW FRONT DORMER FOR THEIR FURTHERS. THEY LIVED IN APPEARANCE OF THIS GARAGE AND SETTING BACK PORTION OF THE GARAGE HERE, INSTEAD OF MAKING IT. ONE LONG PORTION OF THE HOUSE CREATES THIS CONNECTOR AND DIVIDES THE GARAGE MESS UP. ON THE EAST SLASH LEFT ELEVATION. AGAIN, NOTE THE CHANGES TO THE GARAGE MASS AS REQUESTED BY THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD. THE APPLICANT WORKED WITH THE CITY ARCHITECT TO MAKE THESE CHANGES THAT UNITE THE GARAGE MASS WITH THE REST OF THE HOUSE. ACCORDING TO THE CITY ARCHITECT FOR SINGLE BAY GARAGE DOORS WOULD HAVE BEEN VISUALLY OVERWHELMING. ONE DOUBLE BAY GARAGE DOOR REPLACES TWO SINGLE BAY GARAGE DOORS HERE TO MITIGATE THIS, IT IS CENTERED UNDER THIS NEW DORMER, WHICH ACTS, LIKE I SAID, AS SORT OF A CONNECTOR TO THE REST OF THE GARAGE MASS. THIS ALL HELPS BREAK UP THE FACADE OF THE GARAGE AND REDUCE ITS VISUAL IMPACT. IT APPEARS MORE A PART OF THE REST OF THE HOUSE THAN AS A SEPARATE GARAGE MASS AS IT DID FORMERLY. THE PROPORTIONAL INTENT OF TWO SINGLE BAY GARAGE DOORS IS CARRIED OVER WITH THE ONE DOUBLE BAY GARAGE DOOR. AGAIN, THE GARAGE MASS HAS BEEN BROKEN UP AND MADE MORE COHESIVE WITH THE REST OF THE HOUSE. FOR INSTANCE, NOTICE THIS EAVE HERE. IT HAS BEEN AGAIN AS RECOMMENDED BY THE CITY ARCHITECT, CARRIED ALONG TO KIND OF UNITE THE GARAGE PORTION WITH THE MAIN PORTION OF THE HOUSE. AND AS PER DISCUSSION WITH THE ARB, WE 
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WILL RECOMMEND ADDING WINDOWS TO THIS FACADE OR TO THE OR. YEAH, TO THE FACADE, EITHER REAL OR FAUX WINDOWS. AND LASTLY, NEXT TO NO CHANGES TO THE SOUTHERN HALF OF THE WEST ELEVATION OR TO THE FULL REAR ELEVATION, JUST KIND OF SHOWING, YOU CAN SEE HOW THE USE OF STONE IS CARRIED AROUND THE BACK HERE AND USED ON THE FACADE AS WELL. SO TO SUMMARIZE ALL OF THESE COMPONENTS, THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS IS FOR THAT HARDIE BOARD AND STONE WAIVER A WILL ALLOW AN ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN THAT NOT FOLLOWING AN AMERICAN ARCHITECTURAL STYLE PRECEDENT, ALTHOUGH IT IS NOW MORE ONE COHESIVE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE. 
          THE SECOND WAIVER WAIVER B WILL ALLOW A GARAGE WHOSE PLACEMENT DOES NOT MINIMIZE ITS VISUAL IMPACT. SO GENERALLY HAVING IT IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE AND IT'S MASSING GARAGE C FOR THE DOUBLE BAY GARAGE DOOR AND WAIVER D FOR THE STONE CHIMNEYS. THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. THANK YOU. COULD YOU PULL UP THAT WEST ELEVATION? THAT SHOWS THE BACK OF THE SPORTS BUILDING? CORRECT. THIS IS THE SIDE AND THE REAR OF THE SPORTS BUILDING. THAT'S THE I LIKE TO SEE THE WEST SIDE THERE. OH YEAH. YEP. YEAH. SO YEAH YEAH. 
          THIS IS CERTAINLY CATCHES OUR EYE. AND I'M NOT SURE THIS DOESN'T EITHER AGREE. IT COULD BE IMPROVED. ANDREW. WHAT DO YOU THINK MR. MALLETS. YEAH I AGREE IT CAUGHT MY EYE AS I'M SEEING THIS. AND AGAIN I WASN'T HERE FOR LAST MONTH'S DISCUSSION ON THIS PROJECT. BUT JUST KNOWING THE UNDERLYING PRINCIPLE OF FOUR SIDED ARCHITECTURE, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THOSE THAT ELEVATION IMPROVED WITH, AT THE VERY LEAST, WITH ADDITIONAL WINDOWS AND ADDITIONAL DETAILING WITH THE WATER TABLE AS SHOWN ON THE ON THE REVISION. I GUESS I CAN POINT TO THAT REAL QUICK HERE. EXCUSE ME. I THINK TO MR. HINSON'S POINT, THIS RIGHT HERE IS CERTAINLY CATCHING MY EYE AND CATCHING EVERYONE'S. I THINK SOME ARTICULATION AT THE GABLE AND ALONG THE EXTERIOR WALL ON ALL THREE ELEVATIONS WOULD BE MINIMALLY IMPORTANT, I BELIEVE, AS WELL AS PERHAPS SOME TREATMENT ON THIS SURFACE HERE, WHETHER IT BE A FULL WINDOW OR A SHUTTER OR SOME SOMETHING TO WRITE DOWN TO ADDRESS THAT CONCERN, I THINK WOULD BE IMPORTANT. THIS IS NOTED. IS IT IS IT IN FACT, WEST, WEST FACING? I'M JUST TRYING TO GET MY BEARINGS ON THE SITE. IT IS WEST FACING. OKAY. I AGAIN, I SORRY, NO YOU'RE FINE. GO AHEAD. SO THIS BUILDING OBVIOUSLY HAVING A DID YOU COME TO THE MICROPHONE PLEASE. YEAH. SORRY. JUST INTRODUCE YOURSELF. YEAH. SO I'M APRIL SMALL. I'M THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGNER FOR THE PROJECT. AND SO WITH THAT BEING THE SPORT COURT REALLY WANTED TO MINIMIZE THE USE OF WINDOWS. SO WOULD USING THE FAUX LIKE THE CLOSED SHUTTERS BE SOMETHING THAT COULD APPROPRIATELY LIKE FIX THE CADENCE ON THAT ELEVATION? MAYBE. I GUESS I HAVE A QUESTION IN THE ELEVATION, IT LOOKS LIKE THIS IS A SINGULAR FORM RIGHT HERE, BUT IN THE RENDERING IT'S ONE CONTINUOUS PLANAR SURFACE. CAN YOU CLARIFY WHICH IS THE ACTUAL CONDITION? IT IS ONE SINGULAR SURFACE. THEY WANTED SOME TRIM BOARDS TO COME DOWN. IT'S SORT OF LIKE THIS FAUX DETAIL. SO THE ARCHITECTURAL DRAWING SHOWS THAT TRIM BOARD THAT'S SUGGESTED, BUT IT IS ONE SURFACE ACROSS THERE. OKAY. SO WE COULD PROBABLY DO LIKE A HIP RETURN TO COVER THAT GABLE AND BE MORE IN KEEPING WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING ON THE ELEVATIONS OF THE HOUSE. BUT I DO WANT TO KEEP A SINGULAR SURFACE THERE. 
          AT THE RISK OF DESIGNING ON THE FLY, I, I'M TRYING TO TRYING TO THINK OF WHAT'S GOING TO BE MOST IMPACTFUL TO SOFTENING THAT CONDITION. RIGHT NOW. I, I'M NOT SURE THE GABLE IS PARTICULARLY HELPFUL TO THE, TO THE CONCERN THAT WE'RE RAISING. IF THIS WHOLE ROOF WERE A HIP ROOF FROM CORNER TO CORNER WITHOUT THE INTRODUCTION OF THE GABLE ON THIS SIDE. AND I'M TRYING TO RECALL WHAT ITS MIRROR IS ON THE OTHER SIDE, MAYBE WE CAN FLIP TO THE OPPOSING ELEVATION. THANK YOU. RIGHT HERE. YEAH. SO ON THE OTHER SIDE, PART OF THE REASON 
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FOR THAT GABLE, IS WE'VE GOT A RAISED CEILING SECTION IN THERE FOR WHERE THE HOOP IS, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE IT AS TRADITIONALLY HIGH SPORT COURT THAT PEOPLE WOULD NORMALLY DO, BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THE HEIGHT UNDER MANAGEMENT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. SO WE RAISED THE CEILING JUST IN THAT PORTION. SO WE'RE NOT ABLE TO ACHIEVE THE EXACT SAME DETAIL WITH THIS. DUTCH GABLE IS WHAT IT'S CALLED WITH THAT HIP RETURN THERE. SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THAT THAT DIFFERENCE IN DESIGN ON THAT SIDE. YEAH I UNDERSTAND, I I'M I'M SYMPATHETIC TO THE USE CONDITION, BUT I WOULD SAY IF WE SIMPLY ACCEPT SHUTTERS IN LIEU OF WINDOWS ON THE REAR ELEVATION, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO RUN INTO THE SAME ISSUE, WHICH IS IT'S GOING TO BE VERY CLEARLY VIEWED AS A AS AN APPLIED DETAIL IN LIEU OF WHAT WOULD MORE THAN LIKELY NEED TO BE A WINDOW CONDITION. THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING ABOUT REDUCING THAT, THAT HIP OR THAT GABLE END. IF THIS ROOF PEAK HERE WERE RAISED TO A PITCH, IT LOOKS LIKE THIS PITCH IS A LITTLE BIT. LESS THAN THIS ONE HERE. IF YOU GET YOUR RIDGELINE UP ABOVE THIS GABLE, THEN YOU COULD ELIMINATE THE GABLE ON THE BACKSIDE BECAUSE IT WOULD BE TERMINATING INTO THE OPPOSING ROOF. THAT WAS REALLY THE THE UNDERLYING PURPOSE OF MY QUESTION. AND EVEN, YOU KNOW, EVEN HERE, YOU COULD INTRODUCE EITHER THAT DUTCH GABLE OR JUST A OR A HIP AT THE END. HERE TOO, I'M JUST THE LESS VERTICAL SURFACE AREA THAT WE'RE RESPONDING TO. THEN THAT WOULD MINIMIZE THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL ARTICULATION OF WINDOWS, DOORS AND OTHER OTHER TREATMENTS. IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND GOING BACK TO THE PREVIOUS SLIDE. THANK YOU. IF THIS WERE TO PROJECT AS ITS OWN PLANAR SURFACE, THEN I THINK A CASE COULD BE MADE TO INTRODUCE A WINDOW ON THIS ELEVATION AND THEN DO SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE LESS THAN A WINDOW OPENING, EITHER HERE AND HERE AS A WAY OF MEDIATING THAT CONDITION. 
          BUT IF THIS IS ONE LONG SURFACE, I THINK AGAIN, THIS IS JUST ONE ONE BOARD MEMBER'S OPINION. I THINK THAT WILL BE SORT OF UNDERMINING A KEY TENET OF THE OF THE DESIGN GUIDELINES THAT WE'RE TRYING TO TO FOLLOW. SO AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF THOSE SOLUTIONS ARE IN FACT A SOLUTION, BUT LET ME MAYBE SEE WHAT EVERYONE ELSE HAS TO SAY ABOUT THAT CONDITION AND WE CAN MAYBE COME BACK TO IT IF NEED BE. I'M LESS CONCERNED ABOUT THIS. I THINK THIS COULD BE DEALT WITH WITH A SHUTTER CONDITION OR A, OR EVEN SOME KIND OF TRIM CONDITION ALONG THAT SURFACE, WHERE EITHER A A CHANGE IN SURFACE, A PROJECTION OF THAT SURFACE COULD ALSO BE CONTEMPLATED. BUT THIS DEFINITELY IS A CONCERNING CONDITION HERE. ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THAT? I DON'T KNOW HOW WELL I DID ARTICULATING THAT. THAT MAKES SENSE. IS THERE ANY WAY TO PROJECT IT OUT A LITTLE BIT, JUST LITERALLY RIGHT BEHIND THE BASKETBALL HOOP, SO IT CREATES SOME DIFFICULTIES FROM A PLAN PERSPECTIVE. BUT THAT PORTION COULD PROJECT JUST SLIGHTLY. WE MAY HAVE TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION ON THE INTERIOR THAT COVERS THE WINDOWS TO PROTECT THEM. YEAH, THAT'S, I WOULDN'T EXPECT YOU TO THEM TO BE OPEN INTO THE INTERIOR. YOU COULD DRYWALL OVER THEM, PUT SOME BLINDS IN. IT'S NOT UNCOMMON IN THIS COMMUNITY TO DO THAT DETAIL. SO WE HAVE A FAUX DORMER ON THE FRONT OF THE GARAGE. SO IT'S A SIMILAR CONDITION. THE THE REST OF THE DORMERS ON THE HOUSE ARE LIVE. 
          BUT YEAH, OKAY. I UNDERSTAND IT MAY BE A LITTLE HEAD SCRATCHING TO INSTALL A WINDOW AND DRYWALL OVER IT, BUT GIVEN THE ARCHITECTURAL FABRIC OF THE COMMUNITY, IT HAS BEEN DONE IN THE PAST AND I THINK IT DOES, IT'S PROBABL SIMPLEST SOLUTION TO RESOLVE THE THE CONCERN, BUT I CAN CERTAINLY LEAVE THAT UP TO YOU AND YOUR TEAM TO, YOU KNOW, TO DISCUSS IF WE ADDRESS THE CADENCE ON THAT SIDE ELEVATION AND ELIMINATE THAT TRIM DETAIL AND DO SOME THINGS WITH THE ROOF, I THINK I'D LIKE IF WE COULD KEEP THAT SINGULAR WALL ACROSS THAT SIDE. LIKE IF WE ADDRESS THAT ROOF DETAIL IN SOME OF THE FENESTRATION, THEN WHAT? SURE. 
          I MEAN, WHAT I'M SEEING IS THE, THE OVERALL ELEVATION, EITHER IN THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL OR IN THE NEW PROPOSAL IS ADMITTEDLY A BIT DISCONNECTED. THERE'S SOMETHING VERY SPECIFIC HAPPENING HERE, SOMETHING ENTIRELY DIFFERENT HAPPENING HERE. AND ANOTHER ELEMENT SORT 
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OF MEDIATING BETWEEN THE TWO IN THE MIDDLE. I THINK THAT'S ADDING TO THE DISCOMFORT OF THIS ONE ELEVATION. I THINK THE OTHER CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN PROPOSED CERTAINLY SEEM TO MOVE THE DESIGN OF THE HOME IN THE DIRECTION THAT I'M SUSPECTING THE REST OF THE BOARD FEELS A LITTLE BIT MORE COMFORTABLE WITH. BUT I THINK THERE'S TWO THINGS HERE TO PAY ATTENTION TO. 
          THE FIRST BEING THE WALL IN QUESTION THAT WE DISCUSSED. THE SECOND IS THE OVERALL RHYTHM AND AND COHESION OF THIS ELEVATION. AT THE RISK OF HAVING IT LOOK LIKE IT WAS AN ORIGINAL STRUCTURE WITH AN ADDITION, YOU KNOW, APPLIED TO IT. I THINK WHATEVER COULD BE DONE TO SIMPLIFY AND, AND CARRY SOME OF THESE CONSISTENT EAVE HEIGHTS ACROSS ANYTHING THAT WOULD TIE THE OVERALL ELEVATION TOGETHER WOULD PROBABLY WORK TO YOUR FAVOR IN TERMS OF MINIMIZING THE, THE NEED FOR EXCESSIVE FAKE WINDOWS AND OTHER TREATMENTS ON THE EXTERIOR. THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I'M REACTING TO, WHICH IS WHY I MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, THE ROOF LINE CONDITION AND PERHAPS EVEN LOOKING TO SIMPLIFY THAT. IF IT DOESN'T INTERFERE WITH THE PROGRAMMATIC USE, WHICH I KNOW IS PART OF THE THE BALANCING ACT, BUT THAT WOULD GO A LONG WAY TOWARD, I THINK, PROVIDING MORE LATITUDE FOR, FOR US AS A BOARD TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND FAVORABLY TO THAT. IT'S A IT'S A LARGE HOME. SO I KNOW YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF DIFFERENT CONDITIONS TO, TO MANAGE HERE. AND JUST TO SPEAK ON THE PORTION. THAT WAS A MAIN DISCUSSION POINT FROM LAST TIME ABOUT THE GARAGE AND THE. I DO SEE THAT AS A GREAT IMPROVEMENT FROM WHERE IT WAS BEFORE. SO I THINK THAT PART HAS DONE SUCCESSFULLY, AND I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH THE COMMENTS HERE. SO I DON'T THINK THE CITY ARCHITECT WAS A HUGE HELP. I GOT ACTUALLY GOT TO SIT DOWN TOGETHER WITH HIM AND DO SOME SCHEMATIC WORK. AND SO IT WAS A HUGE HELP IN BRINGING THAT TOGETHER. CAN I ASK ABOUT THIS? IS THAT A GARAGE DOOR THERE? IS THIS A DRIVEWAY? IT'S LIKE AN ACCESS. IS THAT VISIBLE FROM THE STREET? WILL THIS BE VISIBLE FROM IT WOULD BE VISIBLE. IT'S JUST SET REALLY FAR BACK. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE. THE FRONT ELEVATION HERE. YOU CAN SEE IT IN THE SITE PLAN. IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO SEE. I APOLOGIZE, BUT THE FRONT ENTRY AND THEN IT GOES TO THE REAR HERE. SO THERE IS A DRIVE. IS THERE A LANDSCAPING ACCESS POINT. I'M SORRY. WHAT HER CATERING ACCESS POINT SPECIFICALLY, IS THERE GOING TO BE LANDSCAPING HERE THAT WILL. I KNOW SHE'S WORKING TOGETHER WITH THE LANDSCAPER, RIGHT? TO PUT A PLAN TOGETHER. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT EXACT PLAN IS, BUT I CAN CERTAINLY MAKE NOTE OF SPECIFIC ZONES THAT THEY SHOULD ACCOUNT FOR. THAT'S CRITICAL BECAUSE, I MEAN, IS THERE ANYTHING IN THE I MEAN, WE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE FOUR GARAGE DOORS HERE FACING AND BEING STUCK, BUT IS THERE ANYTHING IN THE CODE AROUND ANOTHER GARAGE DOOR VISIBLE FROM A DIFFERENT ANGLE FROM THE STREET? I KNOW THAT THE DGRS DO ALLOW FRONT FACING GARAGE DOOR IF IT'S SET BACK EITHER 10 OR 20FT. SO I THINK IT'S TEN FEET FOR STANDARD LOTS LIKE THIS THAT AREN'T ON THE CORNERS. I THINK IT'S CORNER LOTS REQUIRE 20 FOOT SETBACK. BUT YEAH, THIS IS PERMITTED. I BELIEVE WE'LL ALSO BE YEAH, WE WILL REQUIRE STREET TREES AS WELL SO THAT AT A MINIMUM WE'LL ADD SOME EXTRA LANDSCAPING AT THE FRONT. BUT THAT IS THE WHAT IS IT WITHIN OUR PURVIEW TO REQUIRE SCREENING HERE, AT LEAST ON THIS PORTION? YEAH. I THINK IF THE APPLICANTS ARE AGREEABLE TO LOOKING AT THAT WITH US, CERTAINLY. ANYONE ELSE DISAGREE WITH THAT SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL, SOME SCREENING HERE TO SCREEN THIS REAR GARAGE DOOR FROM THE STREET IS THE GOAL TO SCREEN REAR ACCESS DRIVE AND THE PARKING PAD IN THE REAR. YEAH. I MEAN, I THINK THE SO I WOULD WELL, WOULDN'T IT BE I KNOW THIS IS AN EXISTING PARCEL THAT HADN'T HAD AN EXISTING HOME ON IT. IS THAT IS THAT. NO THIS IS I THOUGHT THERE WAS AN EXISTING IT HAD A HOME ON IT. IT WAS DEMOLISHED. OKAY. 2000. 
          BUT IT WOULD STILL, I BELIEVE DRIVEWAY SCREENING WOULD STILL BE REQUIRED. RIGHT. IN TERMS OF ANY ANY GARAGE THAT HAS A MOTOR COURT, WOULDN'T IT STILL REQUIRE HEADLIGHT SCREENING ALONG THE EDGE OF THE GARAGE? NO, I DON'T BELIEVE SO. NOT IN THIS. I THINK IT'S I THINK THAT IS MAINLY FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. WELL, I KNOW IT'S REQUIRED IN THE COUNTRY CLUB COMMUNITIES. SO IT'S NOT A COMMERCIAL REQUIREMENT. SPECIFICALLY IT'S A RESIDENTIAL REQUIREMENT DICTATED BY EACH ZONING DISTRICT. BUT I WOULD SAY AT A MINIMUM, IF WE HAVE A FRONT FACING GARAGE, THEN THE THE BOUNDARY LINES OF THAT DRIVEWAY AREA, IF I'M SEEING IT CORRECTLY RIGHT HERE, SHOULD HAVE SCREENING TO AT LEAST BE TALL ENOUGH TO SCREEN 
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HEADLIGHTS FROM THE NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY TO THE WEST, AS WELL AS COMING FROM THE STREET. THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION AS FAR AS A SCREENING REQUIREMENT IS CONCERNED. BUT ACTUALLY, I HAVE A ANOTHER QUESTION. IF WE CAN GO BACK, PLEASE, TO THE TO THE ELEVATION IN QUESTION, THE WEST ELEVATION. JUST A THOUGHT TO CONSIDER. JUST THINKING ABOUT THE COMMENTS THAT I MADE ABOUT THIS OVERALL ELEVATION AND UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU'RE LOOKING TO MAXIMIZE HEIGHT, WHICH I, WHICH I THOROUGHLY UNDERSTAND. BUT THINKING OF THE QUESTION ABOUT THIS GARAGE AND THIS LITTLE FLOATING EAVE RIGHT HERE, IT'S MAYBE WORTH CONSIDERING CARRYING THAT EAVE ACROSS THIS WEST ELEVATION, EXTENDING THE LANGUAGE THAT YOU HAVE ON THE FAR EAST RIGHT HERE AND BRINGING THAT ACROSS. IF YOU COULD SOMEHOW MITIGATE THE ROOFLINE CONDITION WITH A FALSE EAVE, THAT WOULD CUT THE HEIGHT OF THAT GARAGE. BECAUSE THE DIMENSION HERE, IF YOU KNOW OFFHAND, I'D BE INTERESTED IN KNOWING I'M SURE IT'S IT'S TALL. YEAH. I THINK ABOVE THE FOUNDATION. YEAH. THAT THAT'S ADDING, I THINK, TO THE OVERALL CONCERN HERE. I WOULD CONSIDER SOME KIND OF HORIZONTAL DETAIL HERE. EVEN IF THIS GABLE WERE TO BE MORE PRONOUNCED, IT COULD BE INTERRUPTING THAT EAVE TO THE LEFT AND THE RIGHT OF IT, BUT IT WOULD DEFINITELY BRING THE SCALE DOWN. SO TO THE SIDE OF IT AND PULLING IT FORWARD, THE CITY ARCHITECT ACTUALLY HAD ME DO A SIMILAR CONDITION. SO YOU SEE THE NEW GARAGE ELEVATION? YES. SO WHERE THAT CARRIES ACROSS TO WHERE THAT WINDOW IS BREAKING IT. THAT'S, YOU KNOW, A SINGULAR WALL SURFACE. AND HE HAD ME BREAK THAT WITH THAT DETAIL. I WOULD STRONGLY CONSIDER CARRYING THAT. 
          AND IN FACT, THE SHALLOW PITCHED HIP RIGHT HERE COULD ACTUALLY, AS LONG AS IT'S NOT INTERFERING WITH YOUR ROOF, YOUR CEILING CONDITION COULD COME DOWN AND MEET THAT THAT EAVE VERY NICELY WITH A STEEPER ROOF INCLINATION RIGHT THERE. ANYTHING YOU CAN DO TO HELP CREATE SOME BALANCE DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE SYMMETRY, BUT ANY BALANCE BETWEEN WHAT WE'RE SEEING HERE AND THIS CONDITION, I THINK WOULD GO A LONG WAY. I THINK THIS IS SOLVABLE, BY THE WAY. IT'S JUST IT'S ONE OF THOSE CONDITIONS THAT WE HAVE TO SCRUTINIZE. I THINK YOU COULD ACTUALLY ELIMINATE THIS EAVE RIGHT HERE BY LOOKING AT THE ROOFLINE CONDITION COMING FROM WHERE MY POINTER IS UP TO THE PEAK OF THAT TRUNCATED HIP ROOF. SEE IF YOU CAN TIE ALL THAT TOGETHER. YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO ELIMINATE SOME OF THAT WHITE SPACE AND JUST SIMPLIFY THAT ROOF CONDITION. AND THAT MIGHT HELP SOLVE THIS WITHOUT ADDING EXCESSIVE WINDOWS AND OTHER ORNAMENTATION. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE PICTURE THAT SHOWS THE DRIVE AROUND THE SIDES? THAT'S NOT IN ANY OF THE PICTURES IN OUR PACKET? THIS ONE. YEAH. 
          OKAY. SO IT GOES RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE YEAH, THE ACCESS IS RIGHT HERE. AND IT LOOPS TO THIS AND ALSO GOES BACK BEHIND. IS THAT LIKE A PARKING PAD BACK OF THE SQUARE FOR WHERE THAT SQUARE? YES. THERE'S A ZONE FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO PARK THE CARS WHEN THEY'RE THERE. IT'S REALLY ONLY INTENDED FOR TWO WAS TWO ISH. WAS THAT PART OF THE FIRST SUBMISSION OR WAS THAT. NO, THAT'S YEAH, THAT'S BEEN PART OF IT. I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS RIGHT NOW. I I'M SURE YOU'RE ANXIOUS TO SEE THIS APPROVED, BUT I'M AFRAID WE MAY HAVE TO ASK FOR ONE ADDITIONAL REVISION ON THAT TO, TO GET IT OVER THE HUMP, BUT I DEFER TO THE REST OF THE BOARD ON HOW WE WANT TO PROCEED. I AGREE, I HAVE NO ISSUES WITH SOME OF THE OTHER WAIVERS. WITH THE OTHER WAIVERS THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR, BUT I THINK ONE MORE SHOT AT THE WEST ELEVATION COULD IMPROVE THIS FOR THE NEIGHBORS. DEFINITELY WOULD SHOW A SCREENING AROUND THAT TWO CAR CATERING PAD, WHICH WOULD REALLY TAKE CARE OF THE NEIGHBOR'S VIEW OF THAT PART OF THE PROPERTY. I'M GOING TO DO A QUICK SKETCH OF WHAT I WAS TRYING TO DESCRIBE. I'LL SHARE 
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IT WITH STAFF IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO PASS THAT ALONG TO YOU. I'LL LEAVE THAT UP TO YOU. SURE. 
          SO I'D MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS. I'LL SECOND FOR 30 DAYS. MR. HINSON. YES, MR. STROLLER, YES. MISS. MOORE. YES. MR. DAVIES. YES. MR. BROWN. YES. MR. MALLETS. YES. THE THE AYES HAVE IT. THE MOTION PASSES WITH ALL VOTES TO TABLE THE APPLICATION FOR 30 DAYS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I'M SURE WE'LL GET IT NEXT TIME. THE NEXT CASE A OR B 45 2026 CIMARRON ESTHETICS SIGNAGE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS. THE APPLICANT IS MOURSUND SIGNS CARE. SEAN WHITE WE HAVE STAFF REPORT PLEASE. YES. SO THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING REVIEW OF THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS TO ALLOW FOR TWO HANGING SIGNS AND A WALL PLAQUE TO BE INSTALLED AT 110 EAST MAIN STREET WITHIN THE NEW ALBANY EXCHANGE FOR CIMARRON ESTHETICS. THE TWO PROPOSED HANGING SIGNS WILL BE LOCATED ON THE MAIN STREET ELEVATION IN. 
          THE SIGN WILL BE INSTALLED IN THE REAR ENTRANCE FACING THE PARKING LOT. AND THEN. JUST FOR SOME CONTEXT, WE'RE RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE INFINITE CHURCH AND THEN THE UPPER EAST CONSTRUCTION SITE. IF YOU'RE WONDERING WHY IT'S SO BLAND OVER THERE. SO LOOKING AT THE HANGING SIGNS, THE APPLICANT IS ASKING FOR TWO HANGING SIGNS, ONE OVER EACH OF THE STOREFRONTS THEY WILL BE OCCUPYING. THE SIGNS WILL BE 13FT BY 19.5IN, AND UTILIZE THE EXISTING GOOSENECK LIGHTING. THE SIGNS WILL HAVE GREEN LETTERING WITH A PURPLE BACKGROUND AND THE REQUIRED BLACK FRAME. ONE WILL READ CIMARRON WITH THE HORSE LOGO AND THE C AND THE OTHER WILL READ ESTHETICS. BOTH PROPOSED HANGING SIGNS MEET ALL CODE REQUIREMENTS AND MATCH THE EXISTING SIGNS WITHIN THE EXCHANGE. LOOKING AT THE PLAQUE SIGN, THE APPLICANT IS ALSO ASKING FOR ONE PLAQUE SIGN TO BE LOCATED ON THE REAR PARKING LOT SIDE OF THE BUILDING. IT WILL BE TEN BY 13 BY TEN INCHES AND BE THE SAME COLORS AS THE HANGING SIGNS AND UTILIZE THE EXISTING GOOSENECK LIGHTING IN THE BACKGROUND. THE SIGN DOES HAVE THE HORSE LOGO WITH THE CIMARRON ESTHETICS AND THE ADDRESS ON IT, AND THE PROPOSED PLAQUE SIGN ALSO MEETS ALL CODE REQUIREMENTS AND DOES MATCH EXISTING ONES WITHIN THE EXCHANGE AS WELL. OVERALL, THE PROPOSED SIGN APPEARS APPROPRIATELY LOCATED AND SIZE TO FIT WITHIN THE DESIGN OF THE EXISTING TENANT SPACES, AND THE SIGN DOES MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY SIGN CODE AND ARE CONSISTENT WITH SIGN DESIGNS IN EXISTING SIGNS WITHIN THE NEW ALBANY EXCHANGE, AND I, AS WELL AS THE APPLICANT, ARE HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. YEAH, I HAVE A QUESTION. SORRY, MR. WHITE, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, ARE THESE TWO SIGNS THE SAME SIZE AND JUST THE LETTERING IS DIFFERENT? CORRECT. OKAY. THE ONE THE ONE ON THE RIGHT LOOKS SMALLER THAN THE ONE ON THE LEFT. THAT'S THE CUSTOMERS LOGO. THAT'S WHAT THEY THAT'S HOW THEY INTENDED IT TO BE DESIGNED. AS FAR AS THE SIZING OF THE LETTERS. YEAH. NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE SIZE OF THE SIGN. ARE THEY THE SAME SIZE. BECAUSE IN THE PHOTO THIS PHOTO, THE ONE ON THE ESTHETIC SIGN LOOKS SMALLER THAN THE CIMARRON SIGN. YES. THEY'RE BOTH 19.5. OKAY. 
          BY 13. IT WASN'T NOTED ON THE ON THE LOWER ONE. I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. IT'S NOT PROPORTIONAL IN THE PICTURE, BUT THEY ARE BOTH THE SAME SIZE. OKAY. YES. AND IT'S THEIR LOGO THAT ESTHETICS IS A ALWAYS SMALLER THAN THE. THAT IS CORRECT. I JUST HAVE A COMMENT ON THE REAR PLAQUE. THE DETAIL THAT'S BLOWN UP SHOWS A 1.5IN BORDER. I THINK THE PROPORTIONS ARE OFF ON. THERE ISN'T TRULY. IT'S JUST. SO DON'T REFERENCE THE DETAIL. JUST KNOW THAT IT'S ONE AND A HALF AROUND. OKAY? WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE THAT AS A ONE INCH BORDER? WELL, NO, I THINK BECAUSE THERE'S A 1.5IN BORDER ON THE FRONT, TWO SIGNS, WHICH MAKES SENSE. AND IT LOOKS NICE PROPORTIONATELY. AND I THINK THAT WOULD LOOK GREAT ON THE BACK AS WELL. BUT THE DETAIL THAT'S BLOWN UP, THE WAY IT'S DRAWN, IT'S WAY BIGGER THAN ONE AND A HALF. SO IT LOOKS IT DOESN'T LOOK AS FINISHED AS THE FRONT, BUT OKAY, AS LONG AS THE DIMENSIONS STAY SAID DOWN THERE. PERFECT. OKAY. THANK YOU. THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION OR COMMENT FOR THE SIGN IS THE PREVIOUS ONE. SO THE I UNDERSTAND WHY THE EVERYTHING AFTER THE C LOGO IS 
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ALIGNED TOWARDS THE BOTTOM OF THE SEA. BUT WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT NOW EVERYTHING'S ALL CENTERED VERTICALLY. I WOULD CONSIDER HAVING ALL THE LETTERING IN THE MIDDLE. SO JUST THE SEA IS. SO IT'S ALL CENTERED IN IN THE VERTICAL ACROSS THERE. OTHERWISE IT'S THE WAY ESTHETICS IS CENTERED. IT HAS THE SAME EQUAL TOP AND BOTTOM. I THINK IT WOULD LOOK BETTER WITH EVERYTHING ELSE ALIGNED. I AGREE, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS PART OF THEIR BRAND LOGO. IF THAT'S A IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE APPLICANT WOULD AGREE TO OR NOT. THAT'S PERFECT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? CONCERNS. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. RB 45 2026. SECOND. 
          MR. HENSON YES. MR. YES. MR. DAVEY YES. MISS. MOORE YES. MR. BROWN, DO YOU WANT A CONDITION ON THAT? FONT OR WILL WE CALL IT DISCUSSED? JUST ASKING IF, SINCE IT'S THEIR LOGO, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THE SIGNS ARE THE SAME SIZE, WHICH THEY ARE. OKAY. HOW ABOUT THE CENTERING OF IT? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S A CONDITION FOR IT BEING CENTERED TO OR BECAUSE IT DOESN'T, I DON'T KNOW, OR BRING ESTHETICS TO THE BOTTOM LINE TO THE SAME LINE AS SIMILAR LINE. 
          NO, I THINK WE WANT IT ALL SIMILAR. AND I THINK IT'S INTENDED TO BE. I THINK IT'S JUST I THINK THAT'S WHAT I HEARD FROM THE APPLICANT THAT IT'S INTENDED TO BE CENTERED. 
          OKAY. SO THEN IF THEY'VE SAID THAT ON THE RECORD AND THEY APPROVE IT, THEN YEAH, IT'S NOT THAT ON THE RECORD. IT'S APPROVED BASED UPON THEIR RECOGNITION THAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE CENTERED. SO I DON'T THINK YOU NEED TO MAKE IT A CONDITION BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S UNDER. SO IT'S. YES, PLEASE. THANK YOU ALL. I'M THE OWNER. SO I BELIEVE THE CONCERN THAT THIS GENTLEMAN BROUGHT UP IS THAT THE I AND THE REST OF CIMARRON IS NOT CENTERED WITH THE HORSE LOGO. YEAH, IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE. YEAH. AND IT'S JUST NOT. I BELIEVE IN THIS RENDERING THAT WAY. BUT I WOULD AGREE WITH YOUR POINT. SO SO THAT'S THE INTENTION. SO I THINK IT'S JUST A GRAPHICAL. AS LONG AS THAT'S RECORDED, AS LONG AS YOU RECOGNIZE IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE AND WILL BE CENTERED, I THINK WE DON'T NEED ANY FURTHER CONDITIONS ON THAT. 
          THAT'S JUST AN ERROR WITH THE RENDERING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GREAT. I APPRECIATE AND YES AND. 
          MR. YES. YES. MOTION PASSES WITH ALL VOTES TO APPROVE THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS. 
          THE NEXT CASE IS A RB482026. CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR APOLLO COFFEE. CAN WE HAVE A STAFF REPORT? YES. SO THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR AN EXTERIOR ADA RAMP FOR THE APOLLO COFFEE LOCATED AT 45 NORTH HIGH STREET WITH POST RAMP WOULD BE LOCATED ALONG THE STOREFRONT ON NORTH HIGH STREET. AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, 45 NORTH HIGH STREET IS LOCATED SOUTH OF THE SCHOOL CAMPUS AND IS. WILL BE LOCATED RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE UPPER EAST. DEVELOPMENT. ONCE IT'S FULLY COMPLETED AND IT IS ZONED URBAN CENTER DISTRICT WITH THE HISTORIC CENTER SUBDISTRICT. I'M LOOKING AT THE RENDERINGS. 
          ON THE LEFT IS THE EXISTING CONDITIONS, AND THEN THE RIGHT IS SHOWING THE PROPOSED RAMP. 
          THEY WISH TO JUST ATTACH THE ADA RAMP ONTO THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING, COMING OFF OF THE SIDEWALK TO ALLOW ACCESS INTO THE SHOP'S MAIN ENTRANCE. FOR MATERIALS THE APPLICANT WISHES TO USE IN COMPOSITE DECKING MATERIAL IN A GRAY COLOR, WITH WHITE VINYL RAILINGS AND A CONCRETE WALKWAY TO LEAD INTO THE EXISTING SIDEWALK. THE COLORS DO MATCH THE EXISTING BUILDING, AS WELL AS MATERIALS AND DESIGN, MATCHING EXISTING RAMPS FOR THEIR DOWN NORTH HIGH STREET AT BOTH OF THE THE SALON AND THE BARBER SHOP. THE LOCATION HAS A UNIQUE CONDITION THAT IS ON THE PROPERTY THAT. SORRY, THE PROPERTY LINE ENDS BEFORE THE START OF THE SIDEWALK. AS YOU CAN SEE ON THAT TOP IMAGE WITH THE YELLOW LINE MAKING IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR THEM NOT TO ENCROACH WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY. THIS MEANS THAT THE APPLICANT COULD NOT ADD THE ADA RAMP WITHOUT ENCROACHING INTO THE RIGHT OF WAY. SO DURING THE EVALUATION, STAFF FOUND THAT THE RAMP MOST FOLLOWED THE DEFINITION OF A STOOP OR SIDE STOOP, WHICH IS FOUND IN THE URBAN CENTER CODE, BOTH WHICH ARE ALLOWED IN THE SUB SUB DISTRICT OF THE URBAN 
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CENTER CODE, AND BOTH WERE ALLOWED TO ENCROACH WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY, ENSURING THAT THIS PROPOSED RAMP DOES MEET CODE REQUIREMENTS. OVERALL, THE PROPOSED MODIFICATION WILL ALLOW FOR THE BUILDING TO BE REUSED AS A NEW RESTAURANT IN THE VILLAGE CENTER, WHILE STILL MAINTAINING THE ORIGINAL FORM AND MASS OF THE PROPOSED RAMP IS CONSISTENT WITH THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED DESIGNS ON NORTH HIGH STREET AND WITH THE USE OF SIMILAR MATERIALS AND COLORS, AND THE RAMP WILL PROVIDE. A PROPOSAL WILL PROVIDE THE PROPOSED BUSINESS WITH THE REQUIRED ADA ACCESSIBILITY AND HELP BRING A UNIQUE LOCAL RESTAURANT OPTION TO THE VILLAGE CENTER, AS CALLED, CALLED FOR WITHIN THE NEW ALBANY STRATEGIC PLAN, AND I, AS WELL AS THE APPLICANT ARE HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. I HAVE ONE COMMENT. LOOKING AT THE RENDERING, THE. I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE THAT THE LANDING AT THE BOTTOM OF THE ACCESSIBLE RAMP BE BRICK PAVERS IN LIEU OF CONCRETE. THAT WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE APPROACH TO THE CARRIAGE HOUSE DOOR, WHICH IS TO THE NORTH. IN CONSIDERATION OF USING HARDY AND COMPOSITE MATERIAL FOR THE DECKING IN LIEU OF WHAT'S ALREADY THERE, I THINK THE BRICK WOULD BE A MUCH BETTER SOLUTION AT THAT POINT, RATHER THAN CONCRETE. I HAVE THE SAME COMMENT. I GUESS. I SUPPOSE ON THAT I'D WANT TO MAKE SURE THE PAVERS AT THE LANDING ARE ADA COMPLIANT WITH THE WHEELCHAIR RAMP. I MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING THAT'S CONTRARY TO WHAT THE ADA WOULD REQUIRE. SURE. AND THERE CERTAINLY ARE PAVERS THAT WOULD MEET THAT REQUIREMENT. BUT YEAH. IS THAT COMMENT TRUE FOR THE STEPS AS WELL? WELL, THE STEPS AS I UNDERSTAND IT ARE TIMBERTECH OR TREX MATERIAL AS TO WHETHER THOSE SHOULD BE BRICK. I'LL I'LL DEFER TO MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS ON THAT QUESTION, BUT I THINK THE EXISTING BRICK AND THE STEPS ARE AS WELL. SO. YEAH. YEAH. PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF. I'M JACOB, I'M THE OWNER. ME AND MY WIFE OWN APOLLO COFFEE. I THINK THE THOUGHT BEHIND BRINGING THE STEPS, AS WELL AS THE ADA RAMP IS TO MAKE THE STEPS COHESIVE WITH THE RAMP AND MAKE IT ALL LOOK LIKE IT TIES TOGETHER, ALONG WITH THE OTHER BUILDINGS THAT ARE ON THE STREET. AND THEN, AS YOU HAD SAID, ADDING THE PAVERS ON THE SIDE. I DO AGREE WITH YOU, MAKING IT LOOK ALL COHESIVE WITH THE EXISTING WALKWAY. AND THEN COMING OFF OF THE STEPS, THERE WAS GOING TO BE A CONCRETE PAD THAT ATTACHED INTO THE EXISTING PAVERS. BACKING OFF OF WHAT I SAID, I AGREE WITH THE CONCRETE BEING PAVERS AS WELL AS THE CONCRETE COMING OFF THE STEPS BEING PAVERS TYING INTO THE EXISTING WALKWAY. I THINK IT'S A REASONABLE COMPROMISE, BUT THANK YOU. I. I THINK THE TO MR. DAVIES POINT, THE THE INTRODUCTION OF THE RAMP ADA RAMP IS CERTAINLY A NECESSITY GIVEN THE NATURE OF YOUR BUSINESS. SO I UNDERSTAND THAT. AND THE THE RAILING SYSTEM IS GOING TO BE THE MOST OBVIOUS CONDITION THERE, MORE SO THAN I THINK THE STEPS. I WANT TO TRY TO BE REASONABLY REASONABLE HERE. I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK THAT THE STEPS AND RAMP NEED TO BE TO BE BRICKED. BUT AGAIN, IF OTHERS FEEL DIFFERENTLY, I'M HAPPY TO DISCUSS IT. MY ONLY CONCERN WITH THE RAMP WOULD BE THE CONCRETE IS GOING TO GET EATEN UP, YOU KNOW, ONCE THE SALT IS THERE IN THE WINTER. SO IF YOU HAD THE BRICK, IT WOULD LAST A LOT LONGER. WELL, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE RAMP IS GOING TO BE COMPOSITE MATERIAL RIGHT HERE. THIS THIS PART I THINK THE APPLICANT AGREED THAT THAT WOULD BE. YES. OKAY. SORRY. 
          ACCEPTABLE TO GO TO BRICK ON THAT AS WELL AS THE APPROACH HERE. OKAY. I THOUGHT YOU WERE REFERRING TO THE RAMP. OKAY. SO THE APPROACH, NOT THE STEPS, THE CAN WE GO TO I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THERE'S AN ARCHITECTURAL DRAWING OF THE SITE PLAN WITH THE TURNING RADIUS. THERE WE GO. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT YELLOW LINE IS, BUT THAT WAS JUST SHOWING HOW MUCH IT WAS. OH THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I WAS SIMPLY COMMENTING THAT FROM HERE TO HERE, THIS AREA THAT I'M TRYING TO OUTLINE WITH MY SHAKY LASER PEN WOULD BE I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT BE BRICK. AND I THINK I HEARD THE APPLICANT ALSO COMMENT THAT THIS APPROACH RIGHT HERE COMING OFF THE SIDEWALK WOULD ALSO BE YES, BRICK AS WELL, IF THAT WAS THE 
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RECOMMENDATION OF THE BOARD, I THINK THAT ALONE WOULD GO A LONG WAY TOWARD ADDRESSING THE ADDITION OF THE RAMP HERE AND MAYBE SOME NICE LANDSCAPING RIGHT HERE. WE'LL COVER UP SOME OF THAT RAMP. YEAH, BUT DID I UNDERSTAND YOUR COMMENT CORRECTLY IN TERMS OF THE AREAS THAT YOU WOULD AGREE TO? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. AND THEN WE DO. THEY'RE NOT INCLUDED IN THIS, BUT WE HAVE RENDERINGS OF WHAT THE LANDSCAPE WILL LOOK LIKE ONCE THE RAMP IS DONE. I COULD ALSO SUBMIT THOSE IF NEED BE. THANK THANK YOU. YEAH, I THINK I'M OKAY WITH THE WITH THE CHANGING TO THE TRACKS OR THE, THE STEPS NOT BEING BRICK. WHAT'S THE CHANGE IN LEVEL BETWEEN THE ENTRY DOOR AND THE SIDEWALK? YOU KNOW, I'M NOT TOO SURE WHAT THE EXACT CHANGE LEVEL IS, BUT I KNOW THE RAMP WILL BE COMPLIANT WITH WHAT THE ADA CODE IS, WHICH I BELIEVE IS A QUARTER OF AN INCH PER ONE 2012 MAX AT 112. IT'S NO READ ON THE PLANE. SO I ONLY ASK BECAUSE THERE'S A CONDITION. SO THE CURRENT CONDITION THERE IS NO RAILING. IT'S IT'S JUST THE STEPS. AND I WOULD CAUTION AGAINST LOOKING AT SOME OF THE OTHER BUILDINGS ON THE STREET. 
          I DON'T I THINK THEY'RE COMPARABLE, BUT NOT NECESSARILY THE DESIGN STANDARD OF THE STREET. SO TO SAY WE'RE SIMPLY MATCHING THAT I FEEL LIKE IS YES, IT'S FINE, BUT IT'S ALSO MAYBE NOT HOLDING IT TO AS HIGH A STANDARD. WHEN YOU ARE BELOW 30IN IN RISE, YOU DON'T NECESSARILY NEED A RAILING. SO I COULD ALSO SEE HAVING THE LANDING AND THE STEPS WITHOUT AS MUCH RAILING AND JUST USING THE RAILING FOR THE RAMP. YOU KNOW, YOU BRING UP A GOOD POINT, MR. DAVEY. THE IN LIEU OF THIS WHOLE RAILING SYSTEM, A SMALL KNEE WALL RIGHT HERE OUT OF BRICK WOULD REALLY IMPROVE THE OVERALL. I MEAN, IT WOULD PROBABLY WOULDN'T. IT MIGHT EVEN BE A COST SAVINGS TO THE OVERALL PROJECT. NOT THAT THAT'S THE REASON TO CONSIDER IT, BUT I DON'T THINK I DON'T THINK THE RAILING IS DOING ANYTHING TO IMPROVE THE ARCHITECTURE. AND I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT COMMENT. I ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH YOU. I THINK THAT WOULD MAKE IT LOOK MORE ESTHETICALLY PLEASING, ESPECIALLY ON THE STREET. YEAH, YEAH. GOOD SUGGESTION. YEAH I AGREE. THERE'S A SIMILAR SIMILAR ELEMENT TO THE SOUTH ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET WHERE WE HAVE A BRICK, NOT A, THERE'S A, THERE'S A BRICK KNEE WALL. AND FROM ACROSS EAGLES PIZZA ALL THE WAY TO THE SOUTH, THERE'S THAT KNEE WALL THAT WAS ADDED. YOU COULD, THERE COULD BE A COMPLEMENTARY PIECE OF THAT IN HERE, WHICH. AND THEN THE LANDSCAPING IN FRONT OF THAT, WHICH WOULD REALLY MINIMIZE THIS RAILING. AND YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE THESE RAILINGS AT ALL. MUCH TO BE MUCH IMPROVED. AND IF THESE WERE BRICK, IF THIS WAS BRICK, AND THIS DETAIL WAS BRICK AND BRICK STEPS, IT WOULD GO A LONG WAY TO MINIMIZING THE EFFECT OF WHAT WE'RE SEEING HERE WITH THE ADA RAMP. ABSOLUTELY. YOU YOU STILL MAY REQUIRE A RAILING THERE, BUT IT COULD BE A SINGLE RAIL. I KNOW FOR SURE THAT THE DROP OFF OF THAT DOOR IS NOT OVER 30IN. YEAH. IF I'M LOOKING AT THE NUMBER OF STEPS, I WOULD AGREE ON THE EXISTING. RAIL WROUGHT IRON TRYING TO MAKE THAT BECAUSE THAT THE RAILING DOES. YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING ADMIRABLE HERE, BUT THE RAILING DOES TAKE AWAY FROM THE ARCHITECTURE. IT'S IT'S SUCH A CUTE LITTLE STRUCTURE IN THAT RAILING IS JUST REALLY SOMETHING ELSE. IT'S NOT A HOT. IT'S NOT A LOT OF STEPS. I THINK IT'S, IT GEARS MORE TOWARDS A SLOPED WALKWAY THAN A RAMP. SO IT. THERE'S SOME TIMES CAN BE A CONNOTATION THAT A RAMP IS REQUIRES ALL THIS. BUT WHAT WE'RE REALLY JUST TRYING TO DO IS CONNECT THE GRADES. 
          AND SO ONCE YOU HAVE THE REVISED LANDING AND STEPS, NOW YOU CONNECT TO THE WALKWAY ON THE END AND YOUR GRADES ARE FALLING FROM SOUTH TO NORTH ANYWAY. SO IT'S REALLY SHOULD BE A MINIMAL MINIMAL SLOPE THERE. YEAH. THAT IS WHY WE DID GO THAT WAY. YEAH. YEAH. AND I THINK THE ORIGINAL THOUGHT WITH THIS RAILING IS THAT THERE IS A DECK ON THE BACK OF THE HOUSE, AND IT HAS THE WHITE VINYL RAILING, WHICH I DID WANT TO GO AGAINST ON THE FRONT JUST TO MATCH THE ESTHETIC. BUT I THINK WITH IT BEING WHITE VINYL IN THE BACK, WE WERE JUST TRYING TO MATCH THE WHOLE HOUSE, BUT APPRECIATE THAT. YEAH, I THINK I THINK WHAT'S BEING DISCUSSED WOULD BE CLEANER OVERALL APPEARANCE, COMPLEMENTARY TO THE EXISTING CONDITIONS. IT 
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STILL WILL CREATE AN ACCESSIBLE ENTRY AND I THINK IT WILL BE A BETTER SOLUTION IN THE END. AND IF THERE IS A A SCREEN WALL, A NEW WALL THERE, THEN THE DECKING MATERIAL REALLY ISN'T VISIBLE FROM THE STREET. SO I THINK IT SOLVES A LOT OF CONCERNS. NOW SOMEONE HAS TO PUT ALL THAT INTO A. INTO A MOTION. DO YOU HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS ON ANYTHING WE DISCUSSED? NO, I HONESTLY AGREE WITH YOU GUYS. THANK YOU. SOMETIMES WE GET IT RIGHT. MR. MULLINS, I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE YOU TO PROVIDE A MOTION. I WILL ATTEMPT TO MAKE A MOTION. THANK YOU FOR THE VOTE OF CONFIDENCE. MAKE A MOTION FOR ONE MOMENT. A RB4048, 20, 26 TO. RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE INSTALLATION OF AN ACCESSIBLE RAMP AND ASSOCIATED LANDINGS AND STEPS AT THE FRONT ENTRY, SUCH THAT ONE ANY HORIZONTAL SURFACES THAT ARE DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE EXISTING PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY AND BRICK SIDEWALK BE CONSTRUCTED OF A SIMILAR BRICK MATERIAL THAT WILL MEET THE ADA REQUIREMENTS. TWO. WITH THE PROVISION OR UNDERSTANDING THAT THE OVERALL CHANGE IN GRADE BE LESS THAN 30IN, THAT A MASONRY SCREEN WALL BRICK SCREEN WALL BE INSTALLED IN LIEU OF THE PROPOSED WOOD OR VINYL RAILING SYSTEM THAT IT'S CURRENTLY PROPOSED. AND, IF REQUIRED OR RECOMMENDED, THAT A NUMBER THREE THAT A SINGULAR WROUGHT IRON RAIL WITHOUT VERTICAL PICKETS BE INSTALLED AT THE MAIN ENTRY STAIR IN LIEU OF THE PROPOSED RAILING SYSTEM THAT WE SEE HERE THIS EVENING. AGAIN, I'M HAPPY TO MAKE MYSELF AVAILABLE TO CLARIFY THAT FURTHER. OH, AND SIGNAGE SHALL BE SUBJECT TO REVIEW AND APPROVAL BY THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD ONCE DETAILS HAVE BEEN FINALIZED. NUMBER 5 OR 2, THE APPLICANT SHALL ENTER INTO A WHOLE AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY FOR PARTS OF THE RAMP THAT ARE WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY. AND LASTLY, THE APPLICANT WILL OBTAIN A RIGHT OF WAY PERMIT FROM PUBLIC SERVICES BEFORE CONSTRUCTION CAN BEGIN. AND. MR. IF I COULD JUST CLARIFY, JUST TO CLARIFY YOUR NEW CONDITION, JUST MAKING SURE THE APPLICANT KNOWS THEY'LL STILL NEED TO BE REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY THE CITY'S CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL VIA PERMIT COMMERCIAL BUILDING PERMIT. AND SO THEN THAT THIS IS ALL SUBJECT TO REVIEW. ONE LAST CONDITION, SUBJECT TO REVIEW BY THE CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL FOR CITY OF NEW ALBANY TO ENSURE CODE CONFORMANCE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. MR. YES. MR. BROWN. YES. MR. HENSON. YES. 
          MISS. MOORE. YES. MR. DAVID. YES. MR. STROLLER. YES. YES. THE MOTION PASSES WITH ALL VOTES TO APPROVE THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS, SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS IN THE STAFF REPORT AND THE CONDITIONS ADDED HERE, THAT ANY HORIZONTAL SURFACE ADJACENT TO THE RIGHT OF WAY BE CONSTRUCTED OF A SIMILAR MATERIAL AND BE ADA COMPLIANT. NUMBER TWO, THE MASON STONE MASONRY STONE WALL BE INSTALLED IN LIEU OF THE PROPOSED RAILING, AND THREE IF A RAILING IS REQUIRED, IT WILL BE OF A SINGLE. IT WILL BE A SINGLE WROUGHT IRON RAIL. ALL CONDITIONS ARE SUBJECT TO THE APPROVAL OF THE CHIEF BUILDING ARCHITECT AND STAFF OF THE NEW ALBANY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OUR NEXT CASE IS FDM 50 2026 NATIONWIDE CHILDREN'S ARCHITECTURAL SIGNAGE MODIFICATION PROGRAM STAFF REPORT, PLEASE. YES. THANK YOU. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TWO MODIFICATIONS TO THE RECENTLY APPROVED NATIONWIDE CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. THIS REQUEST WILL ALSO BE HEARD NEXT WEEK BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION. JUST AGAIN, HERE IS THE LOCATION OF IT. IT IS NORTH OF THE FUTURE CANTON PARKWAY. THE CITY ARCHITECT OR I'M SORRY. THE PROPOSED CHANGES INCLUDE RAISING THE LOWER WEST PARAPET ON LEVEL THREE BY APPROXIMATELY EIGHT FEET TO IMPROVE THE 
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VISIBILITY OF BUILDING SIGNAGE AND RELOCATE A PREVIOUSLY APPROVED WALL SIGN TO THE LEVEL THREE PARAPET. AND THIS KIND OF SHOWS IT A LITTLE BETTER. THE CITY ARCHITECT REVIEWED THE PROPOSED REVISIONS AND INDICATED THAT THE CHANGE IS AN IMPROVEMENT TO THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED DESIGN, AND HAD NO FURTHER COMMENT. STAFF ALSO HAS NO CONCERNS WITH THE REQUESTED MODIFICATION, AS THE INCREASED HEIGHT PROVIDES A MORE APPROPRIATE ARCHITECTURAL LOCATION FOR THE APPROVED WALL SIGN, ENHANCES ITS VISIBILITY AND RESULTS IN A MORE BALANCED BUILDING COMPOSITION. AND I'M HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. I HAVE NO QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS SUBMISSION. CHANGING THE SIZE OF THE SIGN AT ALL. JUST THE RELOCATION. CORRECT. 
          THE SIGN WILL REMAIN AS IS. OKAY. YEAH, I DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES EITHER. IT'S ACTUALLY REALLY GOOD. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE APPLICATION F 5026 WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITION. 
          THAT ALL CONDITIONS FROM F T, P 57 2025 SHALL STILL BE MET. I'LL SECOND. MR. STROLLER. YES, MISS MOORE YES. MR. DAVIS YES. MR. MALIK'S. YES. MR. HENSON. YES. MR. BROWN YES. IN MOTION. 
          MOTION PASSES. THE AYES HAVE IT WITH ALL VOTES TO APPROVE THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. 
          MODIFICATION, SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS IN THE STAFF REPORT. OUR NEXT CASE, A RB47, 2026. 
          NO, SORRY. OUR NEXT CASE IS FDP40FTP042026. FOR THE EDGEHILL DEVELOPMENT. SORRY. I'LL. RIGHT. SORRY. WE'RE GOING TO REVIEW THE TYPOLOGY FIRST, I APOLOGIZE. THE NEXT CASE IS A OR B 47 2026. DO WE HAVE A STAFF REPORT, PLEASE? YES. 
          ALRIGHTY. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A NEW BUILDING TYPOLOGY FOR THE PROPOSED EDGEHILL RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. THIS SITE IS LOCATED NORTH OF EAST DUBLIN, GRANVILLE ROAD AND SOUTH OF THE FUTURE GANTON PARKWAY. I DO WANT TO POINT OUT AN ERROR IN THE STAFF REPORT, WHICH SAYS THAT THE SITE IS LOCATED IN THE HISTORIC SUBDISTRICT. IT IS ACTUALLY LOCATED IN THE VILLAGE RESIDENTIAL SUBDISTRICT. HERE'S JUST AN ILLUSTRATIVE PLAN KIND OF SHOWING, AND YOU'LL SEE THIS IN MY NEXT PRESENTATION. BUT MOST OF THE ROW HOUSE TYPOLOGY FALL INTO THIS KIND OF WESTERN SIDE OF THE SITE. THE URBAN CENTER CODE DOES NOT INCLUDE EVERY POSSIBLE HOUSING TYPOLOGY. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A HOUSE TYPE TYPOLOGY WITH REDUCED OR MODIFIED MINIMUM DIMENSIONAL STANDARDS COMPARED TO THE PERMITTED HOUSE TYPOLOGY, WHILE STILL RETAINING THE CHARACTER OF TRADITIONAL HOMES. A FEW ADDITIONAL STANDARDS TO NOTE IS THAT ALL VEHICULAR ACCESS WILL BE PROVIDED FROM THE REAR OF THE HOMES. EACH UNIT WILL INCLUDE A TWO CAR GARAGE AND ALL STREET FRONTAGES, AND SIDE YARDS WILL BE FULLY LANDSCAPED. AND HERE IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT THESE ELEVATIONS WOULD LOOK LIKE. THERE IS ONE MORE THAT YOU'LL SEE IN MY OTHER PRESENTATION. IN SUMMARY, THE PROPOSED BUILDING DESIGN, MASSING AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS ARE CONSISTENT WITH THOSE PERMITTED BY THE EXISTING BUILDING TYPOLOGIES ALLOWED IN THE VILLAGE. RESIDENTIAL SUBDISTRICT HOMES WILL UTILIZE HIGH QUALITY BUILDING MATERIALS AND FOUR SIDED ARCHITECTURE. 
          IT'S A THOUGHTFUL LAYOUT, INCLUDING VEHICULAR ACCESS THROUGH ALLEYS AND REAR LOADING GARAGES, AND ALIGNS WITH THE CITY'S STRATEGIC PLAN, INCLUDING PROMOTING DIVERSE HOUSING TYPES, INCREASED DENSITY, AND CONTINUING WALKABLE URBAN FORM IN THE VILLAGE CENTER. AND I'M HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. AND CERTAINLY THE APPLICANT. 
          APPLICANT HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY. MR. RUBY, TOM RUBY WITH NEW ALBANY COMPANY. JOSH PARK, WHO'S ALSO HERE, ALONG WITH HIS TEAM FROM FROM MI. WE'RE HAPPY TO GO THROUGH THIS APPLICATION. 
          IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO EVALUATE THIS WITHOUT LOOKING AT THE SECOND APPLICATION, WHICH IS THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO HOWEVER YOU WANT TO HANDLE THIS, I'M HAPPY TO PROCEED. I'M HAPPY TO PRESENT THE OTHER ONE. WOULD YOU PLEASE. YES. THANK YOU. AND THIS WOULD BE A OR BFDP042026. 
          CORRECT. THIS IS A COMBINED PRELIMINARY AND FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. AGAIN, THE 58 ACRE SITE IS LOCATED NORTH OF EAST DUBLIN, GRANVILLE ROAD, AND IS PART OF THE 
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COMPREHENSIVE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT ZONING DISTRICT AND SUB AREA THREE SURROUNDED USES INCLUDE THE PROPOSED NATIONWIDE CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL TO THE NORTH, COMMERCIAL TO THE WEST, RESIDENTIAL TO THE SOUTH AND UNDEVELOPED LAND TO THE EAST. AS THIS SITE IS LOCATED IN A CPD, THE ARB AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL HEAR THE APPLICATION. THIS IS EXPECTED TO BE HEARD NEXT WEEK AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. THE APPLICATION BEFORE YOU IS FOR BOTH THE PRELIMINARY AND THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. THERE WERE SEVERAL WAIVERS IDENTIFIED DURING THE REVIEW OF THE APPLICATION AND PER THE ZONING TEXT, THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS THE DECISION MAKING BODY AND THESE WILL BE EVALUATED NEXT WEEK. AGAIN, HERE IS THAT ILLUSTRATIVE SITE PLAN SHOWING THE LAYOUT OF THE DEVELOPMENT, INCLUDING THE LAYOUT, UNIT LAYOUT AND OPEN SPACE. THE DEVELOPMENT INCLUDES SEVEN PHASES AS SHOWN ON THE COLOR CODED MAP, SHOWING EACH PHASE AS WELL AS UNIT COUNT FOR EACH. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A TOTAL OF 243 UNITS, AND THE ZONING TEXT PERMITS A MAXIMUM OF 294 UNITS. THERE'S A TOTAL OF 94 ROW HOMES AND 149 TOWNHOMES. THE SITE WILL BE ACCESSED VIA FIVE CURB CUTS, A CIRCLED ON THE SITE PLAN. FIVE FOOT SIDEWALKS ARE PROPOSED THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT AS REQUIRED, PLUS SOME ADDITIONAL ALLEY SIDEWALKS. THE DEVELOPMENT WILL INCLUDE AN ESTIMATED 3.4 MILES OF NEW SIDEWALK. A LEISURE TRAIL CONNECTION IS PROPOSED ALONG EAST DUBLIN GRANVILLE ROAD, AND ADDITIONALLY, THE APPLICANT HAS COMMITTED TO BUILDING THE FUTURE MILLER AVENUE, LOCATED ON THE WEST OF THE SITE FROM GANTON PARKWAY, SOUTHWEST TO. 
          THEIR PROPERTY LINE IS CONDITIONED IN THE STAFF REPORT AND THAT IS THIS ROAD RIGHT HERE. THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT PROVIDES 1205 PARKING SPACES CONSISTING OF A COMBINATION OF GARAGE PARKING, DRIVEWAY PARKING, ON STREET PARKING AND EIGHT SATELLITE PARKING AREAS WHICH ARE HIGHLIGHTED. IT'S A LITTLE DIFFICULT TO SEE IN THE ORANGE AREAS FOR THE PROPOSED ROW HOUSE TYPOLOGY. EACH HOME IS REQUIRED TO INCLUDE A TWO CAR GARAGE AND A 16 FOOT DRIVEWAY, PROVIDING ADEQUATE SPACE FOR ADDITIONAL OFF STREET PARKING. BY COMPARISON, THE PERMITTED TOWNHOME TYPOLOGY REQUIRES A MINIMUM OF ONE OFF STREET PARKING SPACE PER UNIT, WITH NO MAXIMUM PARKING LIMIT PER THE URBAN CENTER CODE. OVERALL, THE DEVELOPMENT PROVIDES A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF PARKING THROUGH A VARIETY OF PARKING OPTIONS THAT WILL ADEQUATELY SERVE RESIDENTS AND VISITORS. FOR PARKLAND AND OPEN SPACE. THE ZONING TEXT REQUIRES A MINIMUM 38 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE FOR THE ENTIRE ZONING DISTRICT. NATIONWIDE CHILDREN'S HAS DEDICATED 8.94 ACRES, AND THE APPLICANT PROPOSES A TOTAL OF 17.29 ACRES AND RESERVE AREAS. AN ADDITIONAL 13.7 ACRES OF PARKLAND DEDICATION RESERVE A, WHICH INCLUDE THEHE PARKLAND DEDICATION THAT IS. THIS LARGE PIECE RIGHT HERE INCLUDES A STORMWATER BASIN. THESE DESIGNS AND DETAILS ARE CONDITIONED TO GO BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION ONCE FINALIZED, AS NO PLAYGROUNDS WERE SHOWN IN THE DEVELOPMENT. STAFF ALSO IS CONDITIONED THAT THE APPLICANT WORKS WITH STAFF ON PLAYGROUND LOCATIONS AND HOA OWNED RESERVES. FOR LANDSCAPING, THE APPLICANT IS MEETING OR EXCEEDING APPLICABLE LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS, INCLUDING STREETSCAPES AND PARKING LOT LANDSCAPING. THE STRATEGIC PLAN RECOMMENDS PROVIDING A SUBSTANTIAL SETBACK ALONG EAST DUBLIN GRANVILLE ROAD TO PRESERVE THE RURAL CHARACTER, AND THE APPLICANT IS ACHIEVING THIS. IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE APPLICANT HAS WORKED COLLABORATIVELY WITH THE CITY LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS TO REFINE THE LANDSCAPE PLAN, AND AS A RESULT OF THIS COORDINATION, THE CITY LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT HAS NO FURTHER COMMENTS REGARDING THE PROPOSED LANDSCAPING, AND I HAD TO BREAK THIS UP INTO TWO. THE APPLICANT PROPOSES A VARIED EXTERIOR MATERIAL PALETTE, INCLUDING BRICK, HARDIPLANK AND SHUTTER, AND FOUR DIFFERENT COLORS. THERE WILL BE CONSISTENT TRIM THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT. WINDOWS ARE PROPOSED TO BE VINYL, DOUBLE HUNG AND FEATURE SIMULATED DIVIDED LIGHT. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A WAIVER TO PERMIT THE VINYL WINDOWS. SINGLE BAY GARAGES ARE ALSO PROPOSED, WHILE CODE REQUIRES DOUBLE BAY. THIS IS ALSO A WAIVER REQUEST. LASTLY, SOME PRIMARY ENTRANCES WILL FACE OPEN SPACE AND A WAIVER IS REQUESTED FOR THAT AS WELL. SIMILAR TO THE LANDSCAPE REVIEW PROCESS, THE APPLICANT HAS WORKED EXTENSIVELY WITH THE CITY ARCHITECT OVER SEVERAL MONTHS THROUGH MULTIPLE DESIGN ITERATIONS TO REFINE THE ARCHITECTURAL CHARACTER OF THE DEVELOPMENT. THIS COLLABORATIVE EFFORT FOCUSED ON ENSURING THE PROPOSED BUILDINGS ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE VILLAGE CENTER VISION AND REINFORCE THE HIGH QUALITY DESIGN STANDARDS ESTABLISHED FOR URBAN CENTER. 
          AS A RESULT OF THIS CONTINUED COORDINATION, THE CITY ARCHITECT HAS EXPRESSED STRONG SUPPORT FOR THE FINAL ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN AND HAS NO OUTSTANDING COMMENTS. HERE ARE THE THREE DIFFERENT FRONT ELEVATIONS FOR THE ROW HOMES. SO WE HAVE THE BALDWIN. THESE ARE THE BRICK ONES AND THESE ARE THE HARDY PLANK. WE ALSO HAVE THE DENNISON AND THE 
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PALMER. HERE ARE THE SIDE ELEVATIONS FOR THOSE BRICK ON THE LEFT AND THE HARDY PLANK ON THE RIGHT. THERE IS ALSO FOUR UNIT, FIVE UNIT AND SIX UNIT TOWNHOMES. THIS IS THE ELEVATION FOR THE FOUR UNIT TOWNHOMES. THE FIVE UNIT TOWNHOMES AND THE SIX UNIT TOWNHOMES. THE SITE PLAN SHOWS HIGH VISIBILITY LOT SHOWN IN ORANGE, WHICH WHICH WILL INCLUDE OUR ADDITIONAL ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES AND LANDSCAPING AS SHOWN UP HERE. 
          THE RED AREA SHOWS WHERE AT LEAST 60% OF THE HOMES WILL BE ALL BRICK, AND THE BLUE AREA SHOWS WHERE AT LEAST 40% OF THE HOMES WILL BE ALL BRICK. LASTLY, LIGHT MOUNTED NEAR THE FRONT ENTRY DOOR IS REQUIRED. THIS IS CONDITIONED IN THE STAFF REPORT. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING DOWNCAST LIGHT FIXTURES THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT AND FOR SIGNAGE, THEY ARE PROPOSING DUAL POST SIGNS LOCATED AT THREE OF THE ENTRANCES. THE SIGN PANELS PROPOSED TO BE DARK BLUE WITH WHITE TEXT, 20FT■!S IN SIZE AND HEIGHT OF SEVEN FEET, WHICH MEETS REQUIREMENTS. IN SUMMARY, THIS MEETS THE INTENT OF APPLICABLE ZONING AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS WHILE REINFORCING THE VILLAGE CENTER'S URBAN, CHARACTER THOUGHTFUL LAYOUT THAT MEETS THE CHARACTER OF THE VILLAGE CENTER AND PROVIDES A DIVERSE MIX OF HOUSING. THERE'S BEEN EXTENSIVE COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE APPLICANT AND CITY STAFF OVER SEVERAL MONTHS TO STRENGTHEN ARCHITECTURE, SITE DESIGN AND LANDSCAPING, AND ALIGNED WITH THE CITY STRATEGIC PLAN BY PROMOTING DIVERSE HOUSING TYPES, INCREASED DENSITY AND WALKABLE URBAN FORM. 
          AND THERE ARE A COUPLE OF CONDITIONS THAT I HAVE HERE, AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, AS WELL AS THE APPLICANT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. RUBY. IS THERE AN AERIAL PERSPECTIVE? YEAH. YOU WANT THIS ONE OR THIS ONE? THAT ONE. OKAY. THANK YOU AGAIN, TOM, WITH THE ALBANY COMPANY. IT MAY BE HELPFUL TO JUST GO THROUGH A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORICAL REFERENCE TO WHY WE ARE WHERE WE ARE. SO THE ENTIRE GANTEN PARCEL IS ABOUT 100. IT IS 108 ACRES IN SIZE. IT'S BEEN ZONED SINCE THE LATE 90S FOR 294 RESIDENTIAL UNITS. THAT THE STANDARD WAS IDENTICAL TO HAMPSTEAD VILLAGE AND WINDSOR. ABOUT THREE AND A HALF YEARS AGO, WE DID A ANALYSIS WITH THE SCHOOLS WHO ARE HERE WITH US TONIGHT, AND THE CITY THAT WAS CALLED THE COOPERATIVE STRATEGIES ANALYSIS, THAT THAT LOOKED AT YIELD FACTORS FOR ALL OF THE EXISTING UNDEVELOPED RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS IN THE CITY. SO THE SCHOOLS AND THE COMMUNITY COULD BETTER UNDERSTAND THE ANTICIPATED NUMBER OF SCHOOL AGE CHILDREN THAT WOULD BE COMING TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. THIS PARCEL WAS ZONED AND EXPECTED TO BE DEVELOPED WITH ROUGHLY 300 HOMES. THE YIELD I'M GETTING IN THE WEEDS HERE, BUT THE YIELD FACTOR FOR HAMPSTEAD VILLAGE AND WINDSOR IS ABOUT 0.7 CHILDREN PER UNIT. THOSE WERE EXISTING ENTITLEMENTS. WE WERE URGED AT THAT TIME TO LOOK NORMAL. IF YOU COULD GO BACK AND JUST TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THAT, THAT IS REALLY IMPACTFUL. THAT'S ANOTHER 200 KIDS TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO IT IF THAT'S WHAT YOU CHOOSE TO DO. JUST BE MINDFUL THAT WE'RE VERY SENSITIVE TO THAT. WE TOOK THAT COMMENT SERIOUSLY, WENT BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD, AND WHAT WE HAVE TODAY IS AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR GANTON. THAT STARTED WITH A 27 ACRE DONATION FOR CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL COMING OUT OF THE GROUND TODAY. GANTON PARKWAY, WHICH IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION. A LITTLE BIT MORE HISTORY. THERE WAS CONVERSATIONS AT ONE POINT FOR A 15 ACRE DONATION TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO RELOCATE BALL FIELDS FOR A WHOLE BUNCH OF REASONS THAT THAT NEVER HAPPENED. BUT YOU CAN SEE ON ON THE SCREEN HERE, THIS IS THE MILLER ROAD EXTENSION. IT WOULD BE WITHIN THIS AREA ONE CORRECTION IN THE STAFF REPORT, AND CERTAINLY FOR THE RECORD TO BE MADE CRYSTAL CLEAR. OUR PARKLAND DEDICATION FOR THE GANTON DEVELOPMENT WILL BE NORTH OF 20 ACRES, NOT 13, AS IT WAS MENTIONED IN THE STAFF REPORT. SO WHILE IT WILL INCLUDE THE AREA INSIDE AGAIN, THE MILLER ROAD EXTENSION, IT WILL ALSO INCLUDE THIS WINDOW OUT ON DUBLIN GRANVILLE ROAD SO THAT THIS ULTIMATE 20 ACRE PARK IS IS WILL HOPEFULLY ONE DAY BE KNITTED INTO THE FABRIC OF THE ROSE RUN PARK IN THE BIG LINEAR PARK NETWORK THAT WE'VE ESTABLISHED, EXTENDING FROM 
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TAYLOR FARM PARK ALL THE WAY UP TO THIS FUTURE PARK DEVELOPMENT. FAST FORWARD TO WHERE WE ARE NOW. THIS SITE IS ROUGHLY 54 ACRES. WE CONTINUED WORKING WITH MI FOR YEARS TO COME UP WITH A PLAN THAT NOT ONLY MET THE COMMUNITY'S REQUEST FOR SOMETHING THAT WAS DIFFERENT AND NOT AS IMPACTFUL TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, BUT MET THE COMMUNITY ESTHETIC AND NEED FOR DIVERSIFYING OUR HOUSING STOCK, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE HERE BEFORE YOU NOW. SO THIS PLAN REPRESENTS ROUGHLY 243 RESIDENTIAL UNITS. THIS PRODUCT TYPE HAS BEEN BUILT PRIMARILY IN GRANDVIEW GRANDVIEW YARD. FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA, A VERY SIMILAR, ALMOST IDENTICAL PRODUCT TYPE, NOT ARCHITECTURALLY, BUT UNIT DESIGN WISE. THESE HOMES ARE INTENDED TO MEET THE DEMANDS OF BOTH EMPTY NESTERS AND YOUNG PROFESSIONALS. IF WE WERE TO APPLY THE STUDENT YIELD FACTORS THAT HAVE THAT THAT THEY HAVE SEEN IN GRANDVIEW YARD, THIS THIS PROJECT WILL GENERATE 32 SCHOOL AGE CHILDREN AS OPPOSED TO 200 IF IT WERE TO BE DEVELOPED AS AS ORIGINALLY THOUGHT. SO SOME TECHNICAL DETAILS THAT I THINK ARE IMPORTANT TO HIGHLIGHT. ANOTHER COMPONENT IN THE STAFF REPORT TALKS ABOUT DEVELOPMENT OF PLAYGROUNDS. INITIALLY, WHEN I SAW THAT, I CALLED THEM UP AND SAID, GUYS, WE'RE NOT PUTTING A PLAYGROUND HERE. THIS IS NOT INTENDED TO BE A NEIGHBORHOOD WITH A BUNCH OF CHILDREN. I WAS REMINDED THAT EVEN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF STRAITS FARMS, THERE ARE GRANDCHILDREN THAT COULD BE VISITING. WE'RE NOT OPPOSED TO DEVELOPING PLAYGROUNDS AND HAPPY TO WORK WITH STAFF TO ACCOMMODATE THAT. BUT WHAT I MAKE VERY CLEAR THAT THIS IS NOT A HAMPSTEAD VILLAGE OR WINDSOR TYPE NEIGHBORHOOD. IT IS A NEW PRODUCT TYPE INTENDED TO MEET A DIFFERENT CLIENTELE. THE OTHER THING WORTH NOTING, I MENTIONED THE PARKLAND DEDICATION REQUIREMENT, THE REQUIREMENT BASED ON THE DENSITY OF THIS PROJECT WOULD BE AROUND 13.5 ACRES. AS I MENTIONED, WE'RE DEDICATING 20 ACRES. THE OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENT WOULD BE SOMEWHERE AROUND 11 ACRES. THIS REPRESENTS ABOUT 17 ACRES. SO ALL IN ALL, WE'RE EXCEEDING ALL OF THOSE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS FOR PARKLAND AND OPEN SPACE. WE WILL WORK WITH THE CITY. AND AM I TO DO SOME ADDITIONAL PLANTING ALONG THE NORTH SIDE OF DUBLIN GRANVILLE ROAD. AS WAS MENTIONED IN THE STAFF REPORT, WE'VE BEEN WORKING FOR MANY, MANY MONTHS NOW WITH NOT ONLY THE CITY ARCHITECT, BUT THE CITY ENGINEER TO GET THE CIRCULATION RIGHT. THE REQUIREMENTS FOR CONSTRUCTION OF MILLER ROAD PARKING ALLEY WIDTHS, A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS. REAL QUICKLY BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO JOSH AND HIS TEAM TO GO THROUGH THEIR DESCRIPTION, ONE OF THE WAIVERS IS TO ALLOW VINYL WINDOWS TO BE CLEAR. THE WINDOWS THAT WE HAVE, WHERE WE HAVE LANDED TO APPROVE, YOU KNOW, FROM THE NEW ALBANY COMPANY, IS THAT THEY WOULD BE IDENTICAL TO THE WINDOWS USED AT MARKET IN MAINE. SO THEY WOULD HAVE EXTERIOR MUNTINS AND MULLIONS, THE VINYL PIECES REALLY THE INTERIOR INTERIOR WOULD HAVE WOULD HAVE VINYL, THE REQUEST OF THE WAIVER TO HAVE A DOUBLE BAY WIDE GARAGE DOOR RATHER THAN SINGLE BAYS. AS A RESULT OF THE ALLEY SCHEME THAT IS IN FRONT OF YOU, I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO JOSH. THANK YOU. THANKS, TOM. GOOD EVENING. JOSH WITH MI HOMES. I'M JOINED TONIGHT BY OUR CORPORATE ARCHITECT, DAN O'MALLEY, JOEL WEST ON OUR TEAM AND STEVE PECK ON OUR LAND TEAM AS WELL. WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO BE HERE AND BE BACK IN NEW ALBANY. IT'S BEEN A FEW YEARS SINCE MI HAS BEEN HERE, BUT THIS IS KIND OF THE CULMINATION OF TWO YEARS OF REALLY HARD WORK WITH THE NEW ALBANY COMPANY, CITY STAFF IN IN MANY OTHERS. SO EXCITED TO KIND OF SHARE WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FIELD. ANY QUESTIONS AND EARN YOUR RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL THIS EVENING? SO AS I SAID, THE LAST TWO YEARS, WE'VE WORKED VERY HARD WITH NEW ALBANY COMPANY STAFF BRIAN KENT JONES, DAVID BULLOCK, MK, SK, AND THE ENTIRETY AND ARE REALLY PROUD OF KIND OF WHERE THIS SHOOK OUT. AND EVERY STEP OF THE WAY HAS MADE IT A STRONGER PROJECT AND A STRONGER PRODUCT. SO AS WE LOOKED AT THIS AND GOT INVOLVED WITH THE HISTORY THAT THAT TOM SAID, THIS WAS A REALLY UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO BRING SOMETHING THAT IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT IS IN NEW ALBANY RIGHT NOW. AND WE REALLY VIEWED IT ALMOST AS TWO LITTLE POCKET COMMUNITIES WITHIN A LARGER COMMUNITY THAT WAS A PARK. AND THE CONNECTIVITY AND ULTIMATELY THE CONNECTIVITY IN THE MARKET STREET AND THROUGH 
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THE WHOLE PARK SYSTEM WOULD CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT THAT WAS REALLY COOL AND REALLY EXCITING FOR PEOPLE TO LIVE THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THEY CAN GET NOW. SO WE HAVE THE TWO SEPARATE PRODUCTS ON THE THE WEST SIDE OF THE SITE, THE SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED, WHICH IS PART OF THE TOPOLOGY QUESTION BEFORE EVERYBODY TONIGHT, WHICH IS THE DETACHED SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IS EFFECTIVELY WHAT WE BUILT IN GRANDVIEW YARD. IT'S ABOUT 22FT WIDE ON A 28 FOOT LOT. BIG TEN FOOT BASEMENTS, TEN FOOT FIRST FLOOR, NINE FOOT SECOND FLOOR, SIX FEET BETWEEN THE HOUSES, LITTLE BACKYARDS THAT HAVE A COUPLE DIFFERENT OPTIONS TO FINISH IT IN. ALL PAVERS HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF GRASS IF YOU WANT IT, OR DIFFERENT TYPE OF LANDSCAPING OPTIONS. EVEN LIKE THE GARAGE CAN HAVE AN OVERHANG WHERE YOU CAN PUT A TV ON THE BACK OF IT AND DO SOME REALLY UNIQUE THINGS. WE ALSO BUILT THAT PROJECT AT FOUNDERS PARK, THE FORMER BATTELLE SITE, DOWNTOWN, SO WE REALLY HAD A LOT OF SUCCESS, REALLY WERE ABLE TO PUSH VALUE PEOPLE REALLY ENJOYING THE PRODUCT, THE USERS, EXACTLY WHAT TOM SAID. WE'RE MOSTLY YOUNG PROFESSIONALS AND EMPTY NESTERS, BOTH KIND OF LOOKING FOR FOR THAT LIFESTYLE. WE TALKED ABOUT IT ALL. ALL OF THEM HAVE WILL HAVE BIG BRICK WATER TABLES AROUND STEP UPS TO KIND OF AN OVERSIZE PATIO THAT REALLY PORCH FORWARD. EVERYTHING HAS A FRONT PORCH IN ON THE, THE DETACHED, IT MAKES IT FEEL REALLY GOOD. LIKE A GREAT COMMUNITY. THE TOWNHOMES IS ONE THAT WE HAVEN'T BUILT IN COLUMBUS, OHIO, BUT WE'VE BUILT IN CHICAGO, INDIANAPOLIS AND CINCINNATI AND IS A PRODUCT THAT WE ARE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT. THREE STORIES WILL BE A NINE FOOT, NINE FOOT, NINE FOOT PLATE WALK UP REAR LOADED GARAGES SO YOU WON'T SEE ANY ANY GARAGES FROM THE STREET THAT IS IN FRONT OF IT. IF THERE'S ONE. AND ALL OF THAT SAID, TWO PRODUCTS THAT WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO BRING TO THE COMMUNITY AND TO THE REGION, I THINK IT'LL BE A BIG HIT. AND WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER VERY BRIEFLY TO DAN O'MALLEY TO JUST INTRODUCE HIMSELF AND GIVE HIGH LEVEL. 
          BUT AGAIN, APPRECIATE EVERYBODY FROM BRIAN KIM JONES TO KATE TO THE CITY STAFF TO NEW ALBANY COMPANIES INPUT ON THIS AND WHERE WE'VE GOT TO LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING THAT TONIGHT AND ANSWERING ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. HI, MY NAME IS DAN O'MALLEY. I'M THE CHIEF PRODUCT ARCHITECT FOR MI HOMES. I'VE HAD THE FORTUNE, THE GOOD FORTUNE OF BEING WITH THIS COMPANY FOR 18 YEARS, AND HOPEFULLY 18 MORE. AS JOSH BROUGHT TO THE TABLE A MOMENT AGO. WE HAVE BUILT THESE PRODUCT DESIGNS BEFORE FOR FOR QUICK REFERENCE, SINGLE FAMILIES THAT WE HAVE UP HERE ARE 22FT WIDE. THEY RUN ABOUT 52 TO 58FT DEEP AND THEN A DETACHED GARAGE. THESE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS RUN ANYWHERE FROM LIKE 1960 TO JUST OVER 2100FT■!. 
          THE THE CORE DESIGN IS THAT WE BUILT IT AROUND THE GEORGIAN THEME, AND WE INCLUDED THAT AS A AS A MAJOR ELEMENT, AS A MAJOR DESIGN ELEMENT. AND THAT TYPICALLY IS THE. IF YOU NOTICE THE. IT WOULD BE THE THIRD ELEVATION FROM THE LEFT, AND THEN THE OTHER TWO ELEVATIONS ARE COMPLEMENTARY IN AMERICAN VERNACULAR STYLE. SO THEY ALL WORK TOGETHER, BUT THEY ALL LOOK A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT AND WILL BOLSTER THE STREETSCAPE ACCORDINGLY. ALL HOMES HAVE A STANDARD FRAME ELEVATION SET UP ON A BRICK PLANK, AND THEN THERE'S AN OPTION TO DO A COMPLETE BRICK ON FOUR SIDES AS WELL. WE HAVE A WE HAVE A AN EXHIBIT INSIDE THE PACKAGE WHERE WE'VE IDENTIFIED WHERE THE BRICK WILL GO AND BUYERS DISCRETION, FULL BRICK CAN GO ON ANY LOT A BUYER WOULD CHOOSE. IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE INCLUDED HIGH VISIBILITY SIDE ELEVATIONS ON THE SINGLE FAMILIES WHERE WE'VE CREATED. WE'VE CREATED SPECIAL ATTENTION. 
          TO THIS ELEVATION. FOR THE HIGH VISIBILITY ONES. I JUST HAVE IT ON. YOU JUST HAVE IT. YEAH. OH,E ARE HIGH VISIBILITY. THERE WE GO. THEY ARE NOT THERE. I DON'T SEE THEM THERE. YOU HAVE. YEAH. 
          SORRY I DIDN'T INCLUDE ALL THE ELEVATIONS. OKAY, OKAY. THERE IT IS. SO FOR A TYPICAL ELEVATION, WE'VE INCLUDED ELEMENTS ON THE SIDE TO BREAK THE PLANE AND CREATE THE FORMALITY AND A CADENCE THAT IS CONSISTENT TO ENHANCE THE FORESIGHT FORESIGHT OF THE ARCHITECTURE. THIS BUMP EXISTS ONLY ON ONE SIDE, AS IT WOULD BE THE ONLY STREET SIDE ELEVATION ACCORDING. AS FOR THE MULTIFAMILY, THOSE, AS JOSH SAID, COME IN 4 OR 5 AND SIX 
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UNIT ASSEMBLIES. THE END CAP UNITS ARE 24 FOOT WIDE. THE INTERIORS ARE 22FT WIDE, AND THOSE RANGE IN SQUARE FOOT, ANYWHERE FROM 20 TO 60 TO JUST OVER 2400FT■!S. THESE ARE NOT SMALL UNITS. IT'S A IT'S A TUCK UNDER GARAGE STYLE TWO CAR GARAGE DEDICATED UNDERNEATH. IN THE REAR, THE ELEVATION STYLE ITSELF, WE USE THE END CAP, THE WIDER UNIT TO CREATE THE BOOKEND STYLE WHERE THOSE WOULD BE FULL BRICK. THE BRICK DOES TURN THE CORNER. THIS. THIS ELEVATION IS A. WE CALL IT THE HIGH VISIBILITY ONE. WITH THAT. JUST THE TYPICAL. THERE WE GO. 
          ANY ONE OF THOSE. MAYBE A ROLL UP TO THE FIVE UNIT. KEEP GOING. TWO MORE FORWARD. THERE YOU GO. 
          THAT'S GOOD TO GO. SO THIS IS A TYPICAL THIS IS A 5.5 UNIT ASSEMBLY. THERE'S THE BOOKEND. 
          IN THIS CASE WE'VE CHOSEN TO TAKE THE MIDDLE UNIT AND EXPRESS IT FORWARD AGAIN TO CREATE A CADENCE AND A BALANCE OF THE ELEVATION. A TYPICAL SIDE RETURNS THE BRICK ABOUT EIGHT FEET, CAPTURES A WINDOW, AND THEN RETURNS DOWN TO A PLINTH AROUND THE BALANCE OF THE SIDE ELEVATION. THERE'S NO REAL NEED TO ENHANCE MORE THAN THAT, JUST BECAUSE THE BUILDINGS ARE RELATIVELY CLOSE TO EACH OTHER AND VISIBILITY IS NOT STRONG. HOWEVER, WHEN WE DO HAVE A BUILDING END NOW, WE SET. THERE WE GO. AND WHEN WE DO TURN THE CORNER AND HAVE A HIGH VISIBILITY, ALL WERE. THESE ORANGE MARKERS ARE INDICATED, THEN WE WILL BUMP THAT SIDE AND FULL AND CLAD IT IN FULL BRICK AND PUT A GABLE ON THE END, ALL PROPORTIONATE TO THE STYLE. SO ARCHITECTURALLY, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE TONIGHT. WE HAVE WE'VE HAD A GREAT FORTUNE OF WORKING WITH BRIAN JONES ON THIS AND THE CITY ARCHITECT. WE'VE HAD QUITE A FEW ITERATIONS BACK AND FORTH TRYING TO DISCUSS BRICK AND SIDING APPLICATIONS. SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE ARE HERE ALL NIGHT FOR TO HELP YOU OUT WITH THAT. I'M CURIOUS WHAT DETAILS YOU WERE MOST AT THE END. WHICH DETAILS WERE YOU MOST DISCUSSING? WAS MOST LIVELY DISCUSSING THAT YOU WENT ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, BRICK ALLOCATIONS, BACK AND FORTH, BRICK ALLOCATIONS. AND ALSO WE HAD SOME A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WHAT TO DO WITH HOW WE BREAK THE PLANE HERE TO TAKE THE END CAP AND FURTHER EXPRESS THAT FORM. SO WE JUST RAISED THAT HEEL UP TO BREAK IT. AND THAT GIVES US A VERTICAL SEPARATION AND A DEPTH SEPARATION. YES, I AGREE TO TWO OTHER POINTS WORTH NOTING THAT THAT TOOK US A LONG TIME TO GET THERE. ONE WAS THE FINAL WINDOW SELECTION AND THE SECOND WAS THE ROOFING MATERIALS AND ARCHITECTURAL GRADE ASPHALT SHINGLE. BUT THOSE TWO DETAILS IN PARTICULAR TOOK SOME SEVERAL ITERATIONS BEFORE WE GOT TO A POINT WITH HAPPY CONDITION. THE ADDITION TO THE ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENT OF THE DISTRICT. WHAT'S THE COST DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE 30 YEAR SHINGLE YOU GUYS ARE PROPOSING IN THE THE 40 OR. YOU CAN TELL THE DIFFERENCE IN THE DIMENSION. IS THIS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE APPROVED THE USE OF THESE VINYL WINDOWS? WINDOWS WERE ALSO APPROVED. IT'S IDENTICAL TO THE WINDOWS THAT ARE IN THE MARKET AND MAIN APARTMENTS. AGAIN, THE THE, THE, THE STICKING POINT FOR US WAS THAT THAT IN FACT, THEY HAVE EXTERIOR MUNTINS. AND SO YOU HAVE THAT SHADOW LINE. IF THESE HAD WOULD MUNTIN AND MULLIONS ON THE INTERIOR, WE WOULDN'T HAVE THE REQUEST IN FRONT OF YOU. IT WOULD BE A WINDOW. SO THIS IS ALL VINYL. THE INTERIOR IS VINYL CONDITION. SO LONG WINDED ANSWER YES, YOU HAVE APPROVED IT. THANK YOU. WOULD THESE BE CONSIDERED SDL, AT LEAST ON THE EXTERIOR? IT'S A KIND OF A HYBRID, I SUPPOSE. OKAY, I'VE GOT A COUPLE JUST CLARIFYING QUESTIONS REGARDING THE TOPOLOGY. I BELIEVE I HEARD IN THE STAFF REPORT THE THE ALLEYS ARE PUBLICLY DEDICATED ALLEYS. YES. SO AND I, I HEARD A 16 FOOT SETBACK, I THINK ON THE ON THE REAR. AND I, AND I, I GUESS LET ME ASK MY QUESTION AS IT PERTAINS TO THAT, WHICH 
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IS IF THE ALLEYS ARE DESIGNED OR THE REAR DRIVE IS DESIGNED TO ACCOMMODATE A VEHICLE, THE 16 FOOT ADEQUATE, I. I THOUGHT 17 WAS ABOUT THE AVERAGE MINIMUM SIZE, LENGTH. I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND HOW THAT MAY WORK. IF I'M UNDERSTANDING THE CONDITION CORRECTLY. WITH THE TYPOLOGY ON THAT, MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION. 17FT. YES. SO 17 IS THE MINIMUM. SO WE'RE ABOUT 18FT IS WHAT WE WERE AT AT FOUNDERS PARK. AND WHAT WE PLAN TO BE HERE AT GRANDVIEW YARD. WE JUST HAD A THREE FOOT APPROACH WITH NO PARKING HERE. WE'LL HAVE 18FT, WHICH WILL BE ENOUGH FOR TWO CARS OR ONE CAR THAT IS 18FT. THAT'S WIDE ENOUGH FOR TWO. AND, AND I, I'M ASKING THIS JUST PURELY FROM A STANDPOINT OF PRACTICALITY, BECAUSE IT'S AN INTERESTING PROBLEM SOLVING EXERCISE. ARE YOU GUYS CONCERNED ABOUT ENCROACHMENT WITH LARGE SUVS AND THINGS INTO THE ALLEY IN GRANDVIEW YARD? YOU'RE RIGHT. IT'S IMPOSSIBLE BECAUSE IT'S ONLY 3 TO 5FT DEEP. YEAH. YOU KNOW, THE ANSWER IS YES. IF SOMEBODY HAS A 2500 CHEVY PICKUP, IT'S GOING TO CARRY OVER. WHAT WE HAVE FOUND, THOUGH, PRACTICALLY SPEAKING, IN THIS TYPE OF ENVIRONMENT, YOU DON'T SEE A LOT OF THAT. AND YOU'RE HONESTLY CLOSER TO ONE CAR THAN YOU ARE TO THREE CARS. AND IT'S REALLY ALMOST JUST ABOUT GUEST PARKING ON A HANDFUL OF TIMES THAT SOMEBODY COMES OVER, AS OPPOSED TO A FAMILY NEEDING TO PARK A THIRD CAR BACK THERE OR HAVING A BOAT LIKE YOU WOULD IN OUR, YOU KNOW, TRADITIONAL SUBURBIA ELSEWHERE. 
          AND DID IEA HEAR THAT THERE WOUD BE THANK YOU THAT THERE WOULD BE ON STREET PARKING AS WELL ON THE BOULEVARD IN THIS FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY TOPOLOGY, OR IS THAT. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. SO YOU GO BACK TO THAT. THIS ONE. YEP. THAT ONE. SO YES, ON THE BOULEVARD AND WE DIDN'T TOUCH ON THE BOULEVARD WAS A COMPONENT OF THIS LAND PLAN THAT WE WERE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT. I MEAN, IT REALLY IS MEANT TO BE SPECIAL INSIDE THE ENTIRE PROJECT TOGETHER THAT WHEN YOU KIND OF COME IN THAT OFF THE PARK, YOU JUST FEEL THIS REALLY GREAT BOULEVARD THAT'S GREEN AND WALKING AND PEOPLE ARE MOVING AROUND AND COMING ALL OVER. SO YES, THERE'S PARKING ALONG THAT BOULEVARD. AND THEN WE'VE KIND OF STRATEGICALLY MIXED IN SOME PARKING SPACES ELSEWHERE AT THE END OF RUNS AND OTHERWISE. AND ALSO ON THE STREET IN FRONT OF THE TOWNHOMES AND SINGLE FAMILY FACING SOUTH, THERE'S ENOUGH ROOM FOR PARKING ON ONE SIDE THERE AS WELL. SO WE GET ASKED THAT QUITE A BIT, BUT WE FEEL REALLY GOOD ABOUT HOW WE HAVE THIS PART LAID OUT RIGHT NOW. MY OTHER COUPLE QUESTIONS WHILE WE'RE LOOKING AT THE CAN WE GO BACK TO THE TOPOLOGY THAT HAD THE SETBACKS, PLEASE? THANK YOU. I THINK YOU MENTIONED AND AGAIN, I'M I'M REFERENCING GRANDVIEW YARD BECAUSE I'M FAMILIAR WITH IT IS DID YOU SAY THOSE ARE SIX FEET SEPARATION BETWEEN BUILDINGS? CORRECT. AND IS THAT WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING OR YOU'RE PROPOSING HERE? THAT'S CORRECT. SO WINDOW PLACEMENT BECOMES REALLY IMPORTANT. YES IT DOES ON THE SIDE. AND SO THAT'S WHY WE WE HAVE THE HIGH VISIBILITY ONES. AND THEN WE REALLY WE WORKED HARD BETWEEN BRIAN, DAVID, EVERYBODY THAT ONE, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO EVER SEE IT UNLESS YOU'RE STANDING LITERALLY IN BETWEEN IT. BUT ALSO WINDOW PLACEMENT IS IMPORTANT FROM A LIVABILITY STANDPOINT. AND YOU DON'T WANT TO BE ABLE TO BE WASHING YOUR HANDS AND TALKING TO YOUR NEIGHBOR AT HINTING ON THE SOAP. YEAH. IS THE, IS THE CONDITION IN THAT SIX FOOT SPACE THREE FEET ON EITHER SIDE OF EACH PROPERTY LINE? WHAT WILL IT MOST TYPICALLY BE? I THINK YOU I HEARD CONCRETE AND LANDSCAPING AS AS OPTIONS. WHAT DO YOU ENVISION THE TYPICAL CONDITION TO BE THERE? BECAUSE LANDSCAPING CAN BE A CHALLENGE IN SUCH A NARROW SPACE. YEAH. IN THE FRONT YARDS, IT'S IT'S MULCH BETWEEN THE TWO UNITS. 
          AND THEN WHEN WE YOU HAVE THE FENCE THAT SPLITS THE PROPERTIES AND THEN THERE'S EITHER MULCH OR YOU CAN DO PAVERS THROUGHOUT OF IT. THAT BRINGS UP ANOTHER QUESTION. I THINK IN AGAIN REFERENCING GRANDVIEW YARD, I BELIEVE SOME OF THOSE SHARED OR THE PRIVATE COURTYARD SPACES SHARE A COMMON FENCE LINE SEPARATION. AM I UNDERSTANDING THAT CORRECTLY? YES. IS THAT GOING TO BE THE SAME CONDITION HERE? IS THAT PERMITTED? I GUESS, UNDER THE PROPOSED TYPOLOGY TO HAVE THE COURTYARD SPACES GO TO ZERO LOT LINE, IF THAT'S THE INTENTION. 
          YEAH. DID WE? YEAH. I THINK THAT IS UNDERLYING CODE FOR THAT. BUT FROM A I GUESS I 
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WASN'T TRYING TO STUMP YOU GUYS ON THAT ONE, I JUST. FAVORITE PATIOS ARE A ZERO FOOT SETBACK ZERO ZERO. OKAY. OKAY. SO THEY WOULD BE PERMITTED TO SHARE A COMMON FENCE LINE. YES. OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. I BELIEVE THAT. I'M SORRY. THE DIFFERENCE BEING THAT THOSE ARE VINYL FENCES. IF FENCES, THEY WOULD BE GOOD. THANK YOU. THAT WAS MY NEXT QUESTION. AND THEN ONE FINAL QUESTION FOR ME. THE REGARDING THE WAIVER FOR IS DOES THE WAIVER FOR THE DOUBLE GARAGE DOOR, IS THAT PART OF THE ARB'S DISCRETION OR IS THAT PLANNING COMMISSION? NO, NONE OF THE WAIVERS TONIGHT. THE WHEN THE VINYL WINDOWS AND ALL OF THAT WILL BE HEARD BY PLANNING COMMISSION. THEY ARE THE DECISION MAKING BODY. CORRECT. I WILL JUST GO ON RECORD. AS SOMEONE WHO HAS HAD TO CONFORM TO THE SINGLE USE SINGLE GARAGE DOOR, THE. THE PRACTICALITY OF THAT IS EXTREMELY CHALLENGING. WITH AN. YOU'D BE RESTRICTED TO AN EIGHT FOOT WIDE DOOR, WHICH. 
          TURNING RADIUS COMING IN OFF OF THOSE ALLEYS. AS MUCH AS I ADMITTEDLY PREFER THE SINGLE GARAGE DOORS, I THINK FOR THE TYPOLOGY, A DOUBLE DOOR, IT SHOULD BE. MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD SIMPLY BE THIS. IT SHOULD BE A CONDITION OF APPROVAL, BECAUSE THE CONSEQUENCE OF NOT APPROVING THAT COULD LEAD TO SOME VERY AWKWARD CONDITIONS IN THE ALLEYS. IF THAT IS NOT ALLOWED. I KNOW THAT'S A BIG QUESTION, SO I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE TO THE UNIVERSE, AND HOPEFULLY SOME GOOD KARMA WILL COME BACK MY WAY SOMEDAY. SO I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU. 
          I'M NOT EVEN SURE WE COULD DO IT ON THE LOT SIZE. I MEAN, THIS IS THE GARAGE DOOR IS LIKE 16FT WIDE AND THE WHOLE THING IS 22FT WIDE. IF WE HAD TO PUSH IT, I MEAN, YOU JUST IT WOULD CHANGE THE ENTIRE FEEL OF THIS. AND IT'S CHALLENGING FOR SURE. SO I, I THINK GIVEN THE VEHICULAR FLOW OF WHAT I'M SEEING PROPOSED, I, I SUSPECT THAT WILL BE A NECESSITY. ONE FINAL CLARIFYING QUESTION. AM I UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY THAT BASED ON THE PROPOSED TOPOLOGY, TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION MASONRY AND SIDING, THAT THERE'LL BE 27 UNIQUE ELEVATION CONDITIONS, OR AM I IS MY MATH OFF ON THAT? SO CLOSE. OKAY. YEAH, YEAH. OKAY. AND WILL THOSE BE GENERALLY DISTRIBUTED THROUGHOUT AS, AS PART OF THE OVERALL SITE LAYOUT? YES. OKAY. 
          I MEAN, AT LEAST STRIVING FOR THAT OR WILL BUYERS HAVE THE WILL BUYERS HAVE THE DISCRETION TO SELECT THE UNIT AND WILL THERE BE ANY CONDITION OF, IF IT'S ADJACENT ON BOTH SIDES THAT IT CAN'T BE SELECTED AS SUCH? YES. WE ACTUALLY WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT TODAY. WE WILL AT THE VERY LEAST KNOW TWO NEXT TO EACH OTHER AND THE SAME ACROSS THE STREET. I THINK IN GRAVEYARD WE WERE EVEN TWO NEXT TO EACH OTHER AND TWO ACROSS THE STREET. SO WE WE WILL WORK WITH THAT. CERTAINLY HAVING THE DIFFERENT SIDING AND THE BRICK AND THE PERCENTAGES HELP PLAY WITH THAT. SO. AND THEY WILL MIX IT TO THE QUESTION OF. AS WE START, WE WILL PROBABLY SPEC A NUMBER OF THEM OUT AND THEN ALLOW PEOPLE TO ALSO DO DIRT BECAUSE OF HOW CLOSE THEY ARE TOGETHER. WE BUILD THEM IN SEQUENCE. AND SO DEPENDING ON HOW IT GOES AND THE DEMAND, WE'LL, YOU KNOW, AS MUCH AS WE CAN GET UP AND GET GOING, WE WILL DO. BUT WE'LL ALSO GIVE PEOPLE. BUT THEY'LL, THEY'LL HAVE TO BE WITHIN OUR DIVERSITY PARAMETERS AS WELL. OKAY. THANK YOU. QUESTION FOR STAFF, WITH THE APPROVAL OF THIS TYPOLOGY, WILL THIS NOW BECOME A USE THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED IN OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS THROUGHOUT NEW ALBANY, OR IS THE IS OUR APPROVAL TO THAT SPECIFIC TO THIS SITE AND THIS SITE ONLY? IT IS SPECIFIC TO THIS SITE AND THE SITE ONLY. THANK YOU MA'AM. I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. I LIKE TO ASK A COUPLE QUESTIONS. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'LL BE ABLE TO ANSWER THIS OR NOT, BUT THE THE WIDTH OF THESE ALLEYS, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE WIDTH OF THE ALLEYS ARE OVER AT WINDSOR? THEY'RE ABOUT 12 OR 13FT, I BELIEVE. WE MEASURED THEM. YEAH. THEY'RE REALLY NARROW. YEAH. 
          THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING. OKAY. YES. OKAY. OKAY. AND DO WE KNOW ABOUT THE INTERIOR ROADS, THE WIDTH OF THOSE AS COMPARED TO WINDSOR. DO YOU KNOW THAT, CHRIS, BY ANY CHANCE THE ROADS IN THIS SUBDIVISION WILL BE GENERALLY LARGER THAN WHAT'S IN WINDSOR? I CAN DO SOME QUICK MEASUREMENTS REAL QUICK. WE HAVE REVIEWED THIS WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, THE FIRE CHIEF, 
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AND INCREASED THE WIDTHS. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THOSE NUMBERS ARE, BUT THEY ARE WIDER THAN WINDSOR. 
          THEY'RE ALSO WIDER THAN KESWICK. OKAY, OKAY. THERE WAS A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT. OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I HAD A QUESTION. 
          THIS IS IN REFERENCE TO AN IMAGE I'M SEEING AS THE BALDWIN OPTIONS. I'M NOT SURE. ON THE WINDOWS. SO THE I'M NOT SURE IF THIS IS JUST A DISCREPANCY IN THE ELEVATIONS OR IF THIS IS THE INTENTION. BUT THERE'S THESE HAVE TWO VERTICAL BUTTONS. THE NEXT ONE IS A TWO BY TWO. 
          AND THEN THESE ARE THREE BY TWO. SO THERE'S SOME INCONSISTENCY INCONSISTENCIES IN THOSE WINDOW CENTER ELEVATION. I THINK IT'S SO I'M LOOKING AT JUST THE BALDWIN AND ELEVATION A, B AND C. THEY'RE ALL A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. I CAN SEE IT HERE WHERE THESE ARE JUST JUST HAVE VERTICAL. NO HORIZONTAL. SAME HERE. JUST A VERTICAL. NO HORIZONTAL HERE. THERE'S A TWO BY TWO. AND THEN THE NEXT ONE IS THREE BY TWO. I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF THAT WAS INTENTIONAL. 
          IF THAT WAS MAYBE JUST A GRAPHICAL, BUT I THOUGHT YOU WERE REFERENCING AT FIRST WAS A DISCREPANCY OF THE THREE THREE, SIX OVER ZERO TO THE FOUR OVER ZERO HERE. AND THEN PROBABLY IS WE PROBABLY SHOULD MAKE THOSE EQUAL. I AGREE WITH THAT. HOWEVER, IT WAS INTENTIONAL THAT THE WINDOW GRID IS DIFFERENT FROM ELEVATION TO ELEVATION. OKAY. THERE'S NO REASON WHY THEY ALL HAVE TO MATCH OUT TO BE THE SAME. AND I ALSO DON'T SEE THAT THEY NEEDED TO MATCH OUT IN THE A POSITION. OKAY. I THINK IT JUST GIVES US JUST SOME, JUST SOME BETTER BALANCE. RIGHT. IS THERE A SIMILAR CONDITION AT GRANDVIEW YARD WITH THE WINDOWS IN THE DIFFERENT ELEVATIONS? YES. WELL, I GUESS TO START WE COULD I'M FINE WITH MOVE TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION. THE A OR B 47. 2025, WHICH IS FOR THE REQUEST FOR THE ADDITIONAL BUILDING TYPOLOGY ROW HOUSE FOR THIS SITE. I'LL SECOND. MR. HENSON. YES. MR. YES. MR. DAVID. YES. 
          MISS. MOORE YES. MR. BROWN YES. MR. STROLLER YES, THE AYES HAVE IT WITH ALL VOTES TO APPROVE. A RB40472026. ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON CASE FDP OH FOUR 2026 ANY CONDITIONS TO ADD TO. THE RECOMMENDATION? MR. JIM, ONE CLARIFICATION ON THE CONDITIONS FOR THAT APPLICATION. CONDITION THREE TALKS ABOUT THE APPLICANT COME BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR APPROVAL ONCE THE BASIN DESIGN AND DETAILS HAVE BEEN REWORKED. YOU MAY REMEMBER DURING THE PRESENTATION WE TALKED ABOUT STORMWATER BASIN OCCURRING IN THE PARK. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH CITY STAFF ON THAT IN THE DESIGN AND TIMING THE LANDSCAPING. THAT'S REALLY A PLANNING COMMISSION ISSUE, BUT OUR PREFERENCE IS THAT WE WORK WITH THE CITY AND THE CITY. 
          ARCHITECT FOR THE LANDSCAPE, ARCHITECT FOR THE DESIGN OF THAT. IF WE'RE NOT ABLE TO COME UP WITH SOME KIND OF MUTUALLY AGREEABLE DESIGN, THAT WE WOULD THEN HAVE TO RETURN TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. JUST A CLARIFICATION. OKAY. KEEP IT UNDER FIVE. THAT BEING SAID, I'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH A MOTION TO APPROVE FDP OH FOUR 2026 WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS. 
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ONE THE APPLICANT WORKS WITH THE CITY ON THE MILLER AVENUE ROAD CONSTRUCTION EXTENSION. 
          TWO THE APPLICANT WORKS WITH CITY STAFF TO IDENTIFY INSTALL APPROPRIATE FENCE END CAPS AT THE OPENING ALONG DUBLIN GRANVILLE ROAD THREE. THE APPLICANT SHALL COME BACK TO THE CITY AND CITY ARCHITECT. FOR APPROVAL. ONCE THE BASIC DESIGN AND DETAILS HAVE BEEN REWORKED TO SERVICE THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT AT FULL BUILD OUT. FOR. THE APPLICANT SHALL WORK WITH THE CITY STAFF TO DETERMINE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT TO BE INSTALLED WITHIN ONE OF THE HOA OWNED AND MAINTAINED PRESERVE AREAS. FIVE THE APPLICANT SHALL PROVIDE THE FIXTURE DESIGN FOR THE FRONT DOORS OF THE HOME, SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL. AND SIX THE CITY ENGINEER'S COMMENTS SHALL BE ADDRESSED DURING THE PERMIT REVIEW PROCESS. I'LL SECOND. 
          MR. HENSON YES. MISS MOORE YES. MR. STROLLER. YES. MR. DAVEY. YES. MR. MALLETS. YES. MR. BROWN YES, THE AYES HAVE IT WITH ALL VOTES TO RECOMMEND THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION WITH THE CONDITIONS AS STATED IN THE STAFF REPORT, EXCEPT FOR CONDITION THREE, AS MODIFIED HERE, THE APPLICANT SHALL COME BACK, SHALL WORK WITH THE CITY AND THE CITY ARCHITECT FOR APPROVAL. ONCE THE BASIC DESIGN AND DETAILS HAVE BEEN REWORKED TO SERVICE THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT AT FULL BUILD OUT. THANK YOU EVERYONE. THANK YOU. 
          [VII. Other business]
UNDER OTHER BUSINESS, WE HAVE AN INFORMAL ARB HEARING ON THE ATHLETIC CAMPUS. PHASE ONE. A YEAH, STAFF WILL JUST BRIEFLY INTRODUCE THIS AND THEN I CAN HAND IT OVER TO THE APPLICANT. 
          SO THIS IS FOR THE ATHLETIC CAMPUS PHASE ONE. A SO THE CITY PURCHASED THE FORMER 50 ACRE DISCOVERED SITE AND HAS LEASED A PORTION TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. THIS IS A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE DISTRICT, WHICH WILL ALLOW THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO RELOCATE ATHLETIC FACILITIES. THEY ARE READY TO START PHASE ONE, SO THEY WANTED TO BRING THE ARCHITECTURE AND KIND OF THE SITE PLAN BEFORE YOU TONIGHT FOR SOME PRELIMINARY FEEDBACK. ANY ADDITIONAL PHASES THAT THAT WILL INCLUDE BUILDING WOULD COME BACK TO ARB AT A FUTURE DATE. THE CITY ARCHITECT DID TAKE A LOOK AT THIS LATE LAST WEEK. AND SO FAR HE'S EXCITED ABOUT THE ARCHITECTURE AND DIDN'T REALLY HAVE ANY FURTHER COMMENTS RIGHT NOW. SO I WILL HAND IT OVER TO NATHAN. GOOD EVENING, NATHAN SHAW ARCHITECTS, 230 BENTON AVENUE, DUBLIN, OHIO. SO THANK YOU, SIERRA, FOR KIND OF WALKING THROUGH THE OPENING PORTIONS OF THIS. IS THERE A CLICKER MAYBE THAT I COULD STEAL OR DO YOU WANT TO CLICK THROUGH? YOU CAN TAKE THIS ONE. PERFECT. SO JUSTIN SIERRA POINTED OUT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT BETWEEN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY THAT WE'RE ALL VERY EXCITED ABOUT. I'M HERE TONIGHT TO PRESENT JUST PHASE ONE A, WHICH IS THE DISTRICT'S PORTION FOR BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL, WHICH IS A PRIORITY FOR THE DISTRICT. AS YOU GUYS KNOW, THE NEW PRIMARY SCHOOL HAS DISPLACED THE BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL FIELDS, AND THIS WILL BE THE NEW HOME FOR THOSE ACTIVITIES. SO IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT WE GET THESE MOVING ALONG. SO TONIGHT WE'RE LOOKING AT THE SCHEMATIC DESIGN SET. SO WE'RE PRETTY EARLY ON IN THE PROCESS. WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE A LOT OF RENDERINGS FOR YOU TONIGHT, BUT WE DO HAVE ENOUGH IN TERMS OF OUR ELEVATIONS AND LOCATIONS ON THE SITE PLAN, I THINK TO GET SOME GENERAL FEEDBACK THAT CAN REALLY HELP US FOR WHEN WE SUBMIT TO YOU FOR FULL APPROVAL ON AUGUST 21ST FOR, I BELIEVE, THE SEPTEMBER 14TH HEARING. SO THIS IS THE SITE IN ITS ENTIRETY AS IT SITS TODAY BOUND BY NEW ALBANY ROAD, CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD AND NEW ALBANY CONDUIT ROAD. THE EXISTING BUILDING THERE HAVE BEEN DEMOLISHED, BUT AS IT SITS TODAY, EXISTING PARKING LOTS ARE AND ROADWAYS ARE STILL EXISTING ON THE SITE. FLASHING FORWARD INTO WHAT THE SITE WOULD LOOK LIKE COME PHASE ONE, A ALL OF THE EXISTING PARKING AREAS AND ROADWAYS WOULD BE DEMOLISHED AND THE ENTIRE SITE, 50 ACRES WOULD BE REGRADED. 
          THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT ALL 50 ACRES WILL BE USED. SO WHAT WE WILL END UP WITH ONCE THE GRADING LINES ARE SORT OF OFF. HERE IS JUST WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE BEFORE YOU. A QUICK NOTE, AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS ENTIRE PROPERTY, WE HAVE BEEN MEETING WITH ENGINEERING AND 
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DEVELOPMENT, AND WE HAVE BEGUN WORK ON A TRAFFIC ACCESS STUDY. WE HAVE SIGNED PROPOSALS FOR DAVEY TREE TO PERFORM TREE SURVEYS ON THE SITE, AND WE ARE ALSO PERFORMING SOIL BORINGS ON THE SITE TO GET AN IDEA OF ALL THE CONDITIONS ON THE SITE. TODAY, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND JUST ZOOM RIGHT INTO THIS AREA. SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO SEE FOR EVERYONE. SO THERE ARE EXISTING CURB CUTS ON THE EAST AND WEST SIDES OF THE PROPERTY. AND THOSE ARE BEING CONNECTED BY A EAST WEST DRIVE THAT'S ABOUT 30FT IN WIDTH. AND SO ADJACENT TO THAT ON THE SOUTH ARE SIDEWALKS. AND THOSE CONNECT TO NEW PARKING AREAS, EACH WITH A LITTLE OVER 100 PARKING SPACES. YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE IS A CENTRAL AXIS RUNNING NORTH SOUTH THAT IS THE PRIMARY ACCESS ON THE SITE, AND THERE IS A EAST WEST AXIS, WHICH IS THE SECONDARY AXIS ON THE SITE. 
          ARRANGED ON THOSE AXES IS A CLOVER OF FIELDS. WE HAVE TWO SOFTBALL FIELDS, TWO BASEBALL FIELDS, AND THEN BEHIND THEM THERE ARE BLEACHERS. AND THEN THERE ARE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT BUILDINGS THAT WILL ALSO TAKE A LOOK AT HERE IN A MOMENT. A QUICK FEW NOTES ON THE FIELDS. 
          SO ALL FIELDS HAVE A SIX FOOT TALL VINYL COATED CHAIN LINK FENCE COLOR IS TBD. WE'RE KIND OF EXPERIMENTING WITH LIGHTER COLORS TO KEEP IN LINE WITH THE NEW ALBANY WHITE FENCE WHITE HORSE FENCE THAT WILL BE PRESENT ON THE PROPERTY. THE OUTFIELD FENCING, THOUGH, HAS TOP RAIL PROTECTION AND WINDSCREENS. SO IF SOMEONE'S CATCHING A BALL AND THEY GO OVER THAT FENCE, THEY'RE NOT HURTING THEMSELVES ON THAT METAL RAIL. THE BACKSTOPS BEHIND EACH OF THE FIELDS IS NETTED BACKSTOP, SO YOU'LL SEE THE 30 FOOT POLES MOUNTED ATOP A MASONRY WAINSCOT, AND THERE WILL BE NETTING SPREAD BETWEEN THOSE AREAS. AND THE BASEBALL FIELDS HAVE AND THIS IS KIND OF EARLY LIGHTING DESIGN STUFF, BUT 680 FOOT TALL LIGHT POLES AND THE SOFTBALL FIELDS WILL HAVE 270 FOOT AND 260 FOOT LIGHT POLES. THEY'RE ALL GOING TO BE IN THE SAME LOCATION, SO GENERALLY SYMMETRICAL ACROSS THAT NORTH SOUTH AXIS. SOME ADDITIONAL ITEMS OF NOTE FOR EVERYONE HERE, STARTING WITH THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE PLAN. 
          SO RIGHT HAND SIDE OF PAGE WHERE THE CIRCULAR ARROW AREA IS HERE. THAT IS A LOCATION FOR A TRANSFORMER THAT WE NEED ON THE SITE. IT WILL HAVE SCREENING AROUND IT, BUT THAT IS ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE SITE IS THE OPTIMAL PLACE FOR ELECTRIC IS COMING INTO THE SITE UP HERE WITH THIS RECTANGLE, DUMPSTER, ENCLOSURE AND DUMPSTER FOR THE SITE. 
          THESE ARE EXISTING HITTING RUNS. SO THIS IS A PAD WITH NETTING. THESE WERE DISPLACED WITH THE NEW PRIMARY SCHOOL SITE. AND WE ARE RELOCATING THREE OF THEM TO THIS SITE HERE ALONG THAT EAST AXIS. AND THEN BEHIND EACH OF THE FIELDS WE HAVE SEATING, BLEACHER SEATING, ACCESSIBLE BLEACHER SEATING FOR 150 SPECTATORS AT EACH FIELD. AND THE PLAN RIGHT NOW IS TO SCREEN THOSE FROM YOU FROM THE CONCESSION SIDE AND FROM THE PROMENADE SIDES WITH LANDSCAPING. SO WE ARE LOOKING AT SCREENING THOSE SO THAT THEY ARE OUT OF VIEW. AND SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO BUILDING. SO I'M REALLY EXCITED TO HEAR THAT THE CITY ARCHITECT IS EXCITED ABOUT THIS AS WE ARE. SO WE'RE GOING TO START WITH THE CONCESSIONS BUILDING. SO EACH OF YOU KIND OF HAS A SET OF DRAWINGS AHEAD OF YOU, BECAUSE I KNOW THESE ARE RELATIVELY SMALL ON THE SCREEN, BUT WE DID GO THROUGH MANY OF THE DIFFERENT DISCUSSIONS THAT WE HAVE BEEN HAVING AS A TEAM. WE STARTED LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, WHAT MAKES A NEW ALBANY PARK, A NEW ALBANY PARK, AND SPEAKING, LOOKING AT ATHLETIC PARKS THAT EXIST IN THE CITY, WENT RIGHT TO BILHEIMER AND TOOK A LOOK AT WHAT IS THERE PRESENTLY. SO THIS BUILDING TAKES A LOT OF ITS TYPOLOGY FROM THE EXISTING CONCESSION BUILDING OUT AT BILHEIMER PARK. AND WE HAVE BASICALLY SHRUNK IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT SO THAT IT FITS ONLY THE AMENITIES WHICH WE NEED. SO BECAUSE THIS IS LOCATED CENTRALLY OF THE FOUR FIELDS, AND WE DON'T WANT THIS BUILDING TO BE SO LARGE THAT IT OVERTAKES THAT AREA, IT HAS TWO RESTROOMS. AND WE PUSH SOME OF THE OTHER RESTROOMS TO ANOTHER BUILDING THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT HERE SHORTLY. TWO ACCESSIBLE RESTROOMS. SO MAKING SURE THAT ANYONE WHO IS IN NEED OF THAT AMENITY CAN HAVE ACCESS TO IT. 
          A CONCESSIONS BUILDING WITH ACCESS ON BOTH SIDES. AND THEN THIS SPACE HERE IS MECHANICAL SPACE AND IT SPACE FOR THE ENTIRE CAMPUS. YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE ARE SOME ADDITIONAL MECHANICAL SPACES THAT WE KIND OF ABLE TO CLEVERLY LOCATE WITHIN SOME OF THE OTHER BUILDINGS. SO WE THINK THAT HIDING THE LAST ONE HERE IN THIS BUILDING IS A, IS A REALLY GREAT PLACE TO HAVE IT. AND THEN MOVING ON TO THESE FOUR BUILDINGS HERE ALONG THE NORTH 
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AXIS. SO THESE ARE THE DUGOUTS, SPECIFICALLY THE ONE WE ARE LOOKING AT HERE. AND I HAVE A BIT OF AN ENLARGED PLAN OF THEM LATER ON IN THE PRESENTATION ABOUT TWO SLIDES FROM HERE. 
          THIS IS THE HOME DUGOUT. SO THIS ONE REALLY SET THE SCALE FOR THE SORT OF LENGTH OF THESE AMENITIES. SO THE DUGOUT ITSELF, LOCATED RIGHT HERE, HAS AN ATTACHED LOCKER ROOM. WHEN WE WERE KIND OF THINKING ABOUT HOW THESE LOCKER ROOMS WOULD BE ARRANGED, AT ONE POINT WE WERE THINKING THAT THESE WOULD BE SITUATED BEHIND THE DUGOUTS, BUT IN ORDER TO MAKE THEM SYMMETRICAL WITH WHAT WE ENDED UP DOING WITH THE VISITORS, WE ALIGNED THEM ALONG THEIR LONG AXIS HERE. SO BOTH THE CONCESSIONS BUILDINGS AND THIS BUILDING, I DO HAVE A SLIDE SHOWING SORT OF WHAT THE OVERALL FINISH OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS. THESE ARE A BOARD AND BATTEN FINISH WITH A STANDING SEAM METAL ROOF. AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT KIND OF COLOR SELECTIONS WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THERE WITH SOME DECORATIVE SORT OF STEEL C CHANNELS, WHICH RUN ALONG THE TOP JUST BELOW THE EVE OF THE ROOF HERE. SO TAKING A LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT WITH THE HOME DUGOUT AND LOCKER ROOM CONFIGURATION, WHEN YOU MIRROR THAT ACROSS THE AXIS OF EACH OF THE FIELDS, YOU GET THE CORRESPONDING VISITOR LOCKER ROOM. AND THEN, EXCUSE ME, VISITOR DUGOUT. AND BECAUSE THERE IS NO VISITOR LOCKER ROOM, BUT WE WANT TO HAVE THAT SYMMETRY, WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO DO IS KEEP THAT SPACE FOR MECHANICAL SPACE, BECAUSE THERE WILL BE NEEDS FOR IRRIGATION, ADDITIONAL I.T. ELECTRICAL PANELS THAT NEED TO FIND A HOME WHICH ARE SCREENED FROM VIEW. AND WE THOUGHT THIS WAS A REALLY GREAT PLACE TO HAVE THAT, ALONG WITH TYPICAL STORAGE FOR FIELD MAINTENANCE. AND IF YOU COMPARE THE TWO PLANS LIKE WE ARE HERE, WE HAVE SITUATED THESE THINGS SO THAT THE DOORS ONTO THE PROMENADES ARE IN THE EXACT SAME LOCATIONS, AND THE DOORS OUT TO THE FIELDS ARE IN THE EXACT SAME LOCATIONS ACROSS THE AXIS OF THE FIELDS. AND THE DUGOUTS ARE OF COURSE IDENTICAL IN THAT REGARD AS WELL. MOVING ON TO THE WHAT THE DUGOUTS LOOK LIKE ON THE EAST WEST AXIS. SO THERE WERE DISCUSSIONS PRETTY EARLY ON ABOUT, YOU KNOW, DO WE KEEP A CENTRALIZED PRESS BOX FOR THIS? BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT PROMENADE IS WIDE AND PEOPLE CAN REALLY USE THIS LIKE A PARK SETTING. SO THE MORE OPTIMAL WAY TO DO A PRESS BOX ON THESE SITES IS TO ACTUALLY PUT A PRESS BOX AT EACH OF THE DIFFERENT FIELDS. AND SO WHAT THIS DOES MEAN, JUMPING BACK A SLIDE IS THAT IN SOME CASES, YOU HAVE A, A WAY DUGOUT THAT HAS A THAT HAS A PRESS BOX IN THE HOME DUGOUT AND AWAY DUGOUT AND A HOME DUGOUT. IT GETS A BIT OF AN ALTERNATING EFFECT, WHICH IS A LITTLE ATYPICAL, BUT IT CONSOLIDATES ALL OF THE PRESS BOXES ALONG ONE AXIS. SO VIEWING IT FROM THE FROM THE SOUTH, LOOKING NORTH, YOU HAVE COMPLETE SYMMETRY AND HOW THOSE BUILDINGS APPEAR. AND THE SAME LOOKING EAST TO WEST. SO WHAT THIS BUILDING IS, IT'S THE SAME FLOOR PLAN AS WHAT WE HAD SEEN PREVIOUSLY, BUT ABOVE EACH OF THE DUGOUT AREAS WE ARE INSTALLING THE PRESS BOX ABOVE THERE. SO WE'RE JUST TAKING THAT ROOF LINE AND RAISING IT UP. WE'RE CONTINUING ANOTHER A LINE OF THAT STEEL C-CHANNEL. 
          IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU SEE AT TAYLOR FARM PARK THAT C-CHANNEL AT THE TOP OF THE ROOF LINE HERE, BRINGING THAT UP, STILL CONTINUING IT ON THE BASELINE HERE TO KIND OF BREAK THAT AREA UP. AND THE MOST OPTIMAL WAY TO GET INTO THAT PRESS BOX WOULD JUST BE A STAIR DIRECTLY ON THAT SECONDARY AXIS, THAT PRIMARY AXIS R RUNNING UP THE BUILDING HERE. AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE LANDSCAPE DESIGNERS TO WORK WITH SCREENING OF THAT AS WELL, SO THAT IT DOES NOT BECOME ANY KIND OF A MAJOR PART OF THAT AXIS. AND THEN JUST LIKE WHAT WE SAW IN THE TYPICAL DUGOUT ARRANGEMENT, THE VISITOR DUGOUT IS THE EXACT SAME, JUST MIRRORED. TALKING ABOUT NOW THE HITTING FACILITY. AND SO THIS IS REALLY TWO BUILDINGS. WE HAVE THIS BUILDING HERE, WHICH IS THE HITTING FACILITY. SO THIS IS AN INDOOR HITTING FACILITY WITH FOUR BATTING RUNS WITHIN IT. AND NEXT TO IT, THIS SMALLER BUILDING IS A RESTROOM FACILITY. SO WHEN THE TO MAKE THIS TO KEEP THIS CONCESSIONS BUILDING MUCH SMALLER AND MUCH MORE PARK LIKE AND AIRY ON THE SITE, WE CONSOLIDATE THE MAJORITY OF THE RESTROOMS FOR THE SITE INTO THIS BUILDING HERE. SO HERE'S WHAT THAT ARRANGEMENT LOOKS LIKE. IT IS FROM THE GRADE PLANE TO THE BOTTOM OF THE JOIST IN HERE, 24 FOOT TALL. AND THEN WE HAVE A STEEP GABLE ROOF THERE WITH A 12 OVER SIX PITCH. AND IT CONSISTS OF THREE OVERHEAD 
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DOORS ON BOTH SIDES WITH A SINGULAR WINDOW ABOVE THOSE. IT'S ACTUALLY NOT TOO DISSIMILAR FROM THE FIRE STATION TO THE NORTH SORT OF TYPOLOGY AND THE BARN LIKE TYPOLOGY THERE, WITH A CUPOLA SITUATED OVER EACH ONE OF THOSE AREAS. AND THEN NEXT TO IT, WE KIND OF POSITIONED THIS ALMOST STABLE, LIKE BUILDING TO THE SIDE WITH BARN DOORS, SLIDING BARN DOORS, SIMILAR TO WHAT OUR TAYLOR FARM PARK, WITH ENTRIES INTO THE MEN'S AND WOMEN'S RESTROOMS, WHICH CAN JUST BE LOCKED ONCE THE BARN DOORS ARE OPENED AS WELL. SO THOSE AREAS ARE PRIVATE SCREENED BEHIND THE HITTING FACILITY. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF OVERHEAD DOORS HERE, TWO OF THEM. THEY ARE EIGHT FOOT BY SEVEN FOOT FOUR CURRENTLY, AND THESE WOULD BE FOR DISTRICT STORAGE AND SOME OF THE DISTRICT'S TRANSPORTATION DEVICES AROUND THE SITE, LIKE THEIR GATORS AND ATVS. SO THIS ARRANGEMENT WE WE LIKE QUITE A BIT. IT HELPS KEEP THAT BUILDING THE CONCESSIONS BUILDING BETWEEN ALL THE FIELDS, YOU KNOW, CONSOLIDATED AND SMALL, WHILE CREATING A REALLY NICE SORT OF ARRANGEMENT ON THIS SITE THAT WITH THIS SMALLER BUILDING HERE, KIND OF HELPS BREAK DOWN THE SCALE OF THIS LARGER BUILDING, WHICH IS THE LARGEST BUILDING AS A PART OF PHASE ONE, A ON THE SITE. THE LAST BUILDING THAT WILL COME OUT OF PHASE ONE, A IS THIS LITTLE TINY RED DOT, NOT THE ONE I'M WAVING AROUND UP HERE AT THE TOP LEFT HAND SIDE OF THE PAGE. SO WE DO NEED A WATER METER BUILDING. WE DON'T NEED TO DRAW NECESSARILY TOO MUCH ATTENTION TO IT. SO IT RETAINS ALL OF THE SAME MATERIALS THAT WE ARE USING ELSEWHERE ON THE SITE. THE WHITE BOARD AND BATTEN OVER WHICH OVER FURNISHED CMU BLOCK ABOUT THREE QUARTERS OF THAT WHICH ARE SHOWN BELOW THE BOARD. 
          AND BATTEN, THIS IS JUST A 12 BY 15 BUILDING THAT WILL HAVE A MAN DOOR ON IT, JUST TO GET ACCESS TO THAT WATER METER BUILDING. AND AGAIN, WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY TRYING TO MAKE THAT THE PRIMARY BUILDING ON THE SITE. SO KEEPING IT PRETTY RESTRAINED WHEN IT COMES TO MATERIAL SELECTIONS, WE ARE AGAIN LOOKING AT EASY TO MAINTAIN FINISHES, WHICH WE TYPICALLY LOOK AT FOR SCHOOL DISTRICT. AND SO WE HAVE FOUND PRODUCTS THAT ARE BOARD AND BATTEN IN LOOK BUT ARE MADE OF METAL. SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE PAINTED. AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE EASILY DAMAGED. WE ARE USING THESE IN THE CONCESSIONS BUILDING, BUT PRETTY MUCH EVERY BUILDING THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TODAY, AND WE ARE IN CONTACT WITH THE REP BECAUSE WE KNOW, YOU KNOW, IT'S A FLY BALL HITS ONE OF THESE THINGS. IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CAN WITHSTAND DENTS COMING FROM A, FROM A FOUL BALL OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE. IF THAT'S NOT THE CASE, WE WILL REVISE THE MATERIAL TO TO MEET THAT. BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT A FINISH SIMILAR TO BOARD AND BATTEN IN THE END CONDITION. THERE ARE A BUNCH OF COLOR SELECTIONS HERE, BUT WE ARE JUST LOOKING AT WHITE FOR WHAT WE. HOW WE PLAN TO APPROACH THIS MOVING FORWARD IS THAT WHAT IS TYPICAL ELSEWHERE IN NEW ALBANY AND THEN STANDING SEAM METAL ROOFS, THEY GIVE YOU A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR THESE FOR THE STIFFENER PROFILES, LOOKING AT BILHEIMER, THEY USE A SMOOTH FACE, WHICH IS THIS FACE RIGHT HERE. SO THERE IS NO STIFFENER PANEL IN THE HOT SUN. AND WHEN WE TOOK OUR PHOTOS, WE WERE ACTUALLY THERE. AND YOU KNOW, LATE JUNE, EARLY JULY. EARLY JULY WHEN WE WERE THERE. BUT THERE WERE THERE WAS A BIT OF OIL CANNING ON THAT ROOFTOP, WHICH KIND OF GAVE THAT SOME SHADOW LINES. IT MIGHT BE GOOD FOR, YOU KNOW, US AS A TEAM TO MAYBE LOOK AT A HIGH RIB CONDITION THERE. THAT JUST GIVES YOU THAT LITTLE BIT OF A PEEK WITHIN THE PANEL THERE, JUST SO THAT IT KEEPS THAT MORE FINISHED LOOK THROUGHOUT THE YEARS. AND WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT SOMETHING AND WE'LL BRING IN ALL OF THE MATERIAL SELECTIONS WITH US ON THE 21ST, EXCUSE ME, THE 14TH OR THE SUBMISSION ON THE 21ST AND LIKELY MUSKET GRAY IS A PRETTY CLOSE MATCH TO WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE CURRENTLY IN BATTLE. SO WE SAID WE WEREN'T GOING TO NECESSARILY TALK ABOUT ANY RENDERINGS TONIGHT, BUT OUR PARTNERS AND FRIENDS OVER AT MCCSC, YOU KNOW, AS THEY WORK THROUGH THE SITE MODEL AND WE'RE COLLABORATING TOGETHER, WE WERE ABLE TO KIND OF TAKE A SNAPSHOT VIEW FROM THE SOUTH SIDE LOOKING NORTH, AND WE ENDED UP WITH SOMETHING THAT LOOKS LIKE THIS HERE. SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IN THE FOREGROUND ARE PICNIC TABLES, WHICH ARE THE SAME PRODUCT WHICH ARE CURRENTLY USED AT TAYLOR FARM PARK. THEY LOOK A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT IN THE RENDERING, BUT THE INTENT IS THAT THOSE ARE THE SAME ONES WHICH ARE USED AT TAYLOR FARM PARK. FLANKING THAT ARE CONCRETE WALKWAYS, BUT WHERE THE PICNIC TABLES ARE SITUATED, AS WELL AS THE LITTLE BREAKOUT AREAS BETWEEN THOSE MAIN THRUWAYS, THOSE ARE A AREA WITH PAVERS IN THERE, BRINGING DOWN THE SCALE AND MAKING THOSE 
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A BIT MORE COZY IN THAT AREA. THE LANDSCAPE WHICH IS BEING SHOWN IS NOT FINAL. IT'S IT'S THE LANDSCAPE PACKAGE IS SOMETHING WHICH IS CONTINUING TO BE. SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING ON I SIDE OF THE NORTH SOUTH AXIS IS THAT CHAIN LINK, VINYL COATED CHAIN LINK FENCE IN A WHITE COLOR. BEHIND THERE, YOU'RE SEEING THE VISITOR AND HOME DUGOUTS WITH WHITE BOARD AND BATTEN. THE C-CHANNEL PAINTED BLACK HERE, GIVING IT A BIT OF A DARKER ACCENT WITH THE STANDING SEAM METAL ROOF, THE NETTING FOR THE BASEBALL FIELDS IN THE END CONDITION. BACK HERE, SOME OF THE HIGHER LIGHTING AS WELL AS THAT, YOU KNOW, TALLER PRESS BOX, LOWER DUGOUT AREA, TALLER PRESS BOX, LOWER LOCKER ROOM AREA. THIS BACK HERE IS THE RESTROOM BUILDING AND THE RENDERING. YOU KNOW, AS THIS IS SO, SO EARLY, WE DIDN'T WANT TO NECESSARILY WIDEN EVERYTHING UP TO SHOW THAT HITTING FACILITY BECAUSE THINGS ARE STILL SORT OF UNDER CONSTRUCTION AS WE WERE SHOWING THEM. BUT THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE HERE TO PRESENT TO YOU TONIGHT. AND WE CAN GO BACK THROUGH EACH OF THE DIFFERENT BUILDINGS. I KNOW IT'S LATE. I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS HELPING US OUT AND GIVING US FEEDBACK ON THIS TONIGHT. AND MAYBE JUST WALK THROUGH EACH ONE TO, TO HEAR SOME FEEDBACK WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL. SO THANK YOU. GREAT. I THINK IT LOOKS GREAT. 
          I HAD ONE FUNNY THOUGHT COME TO MIND. I RECENTLY THE PRESS BOXES OVER THE HOME TEAM'S. 
          DUGOUT. WHAT ARE THE WHAT'S THE FLOOR? WHAT WOULD THE WE SEE THE FLOOR BEING THERE BECAUSE THERE WAS A COLLEGE FOOTBALL TEAM THAT PUT THE VISITING SCHOOLS AND THEY HEAR THE THUMPING OF IT. YES. YEAH, YEAH. IT'S IT'S NOISY BY DESIGN. IT'S OVER THE STUDENT SECTION. WE. 
          YEAH. WE'VE BEEN MADE AWARE OF THAT. IT'S IT'S FUNNY. I'M SURE THERE WAS THE SAME STORY MADE THE ROUNDS. YEAH. WE ARE AWARE THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING OF TREMENDOUS SOUNDPROOFING. IF NOT IF NOT, PUT IT OVER THE VISITORS SIDE. IT'S A LITTLE HOME FIELD ADVANTAGE. TIE TIE WITH TAP SHOES. I THINK IT LOOKS GREAT. I'M. I'M SURE YOU'RE GOING TO BRING IT HOME. 
          I, I HAVE NO REAL COMMENTS ON IT. I HAVE A COUPLE QUICK REMARKS JUST TO HELP YOU GUYS IN THE PROCESS. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS IN FRONT OF US AS A PRELIMINARY PACKAGE SO THAT WE CAN COMMENT ON IT. I'LL KEEP MY COMMENTS BRIEF. THE SITE PLAN LOOKS GOOD. THE LAYOUT MAKES SENSE TO ME. IT SEEMS LOGICAL GIVEN THE CONDITIONS THAT I SEE ON THE PROPERTY. 
          I'VE GOT JUST A COUPLE QUESTIONS. ONE, I'M ASSUMING THAT THAT WITH THE METAL ROOF, THAT WHAT I'M SEEING ON THESE DRAWINGS IS, IS A SNOW GUARD. IS THAT IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY. 
          I WAS JUST WANTING TO CONFIRM THAT THAT'S IN FACT, WHAT I WAS SEEING REGARDING THE, THE BUILDING DESIGNS THEMSELVES, THE HITTING FACILITY TO ME. I DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THAT. 
          I MEAN, JUST I WOULD JUST RECOMMEND PAYING ATTENTION TO THE SAME COMMENTS THAT WE'VE OFFERED IN THE PAST REGARDING SOME OF THE ROOF EAVE CONDITIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT, THAT WE'VE OFTEN COMMENTED ON THE, THE ONE AREA THAT I DO HAVE SOME COMMENTS LOOKING AHEAD TO US, TAKING ACTION ON APPROVAL OF THE DESIGNS WOULD BE THE PRESS BOX CONDITION. I THINK THAT IT'S A IT'S A DIFFICULT IT'S A DIFFICULT ARCHITECTURAL CONDITION TO BRING THE KIND OF ARCHITECTURE THAT WE'RE ACCUSTOMED TO SEEING TO A PRESS BOX THAT IS TEN FEET WIDE OR APPROXIMATELY TEN FEET WIDE. I WOULD RECOMMEND A COUPLE OF THINGS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, BECAUSE AS I LOOK AT PAGE 16, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND GOING BACK ONE ONE, SURE, I WOULD SAY, AND I, AND I DO UNDERSTAND THE EFFICIENCY AND SIMPLICITY OF THE STACKING. HOWEVER, JUST HAVING A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THIS WHILE YOU WERE WALKING US THROUGH, IF THERE'S ANY WAY TO CENTER THE PRESS BOX OVER THE DUGOUT AND THE LOCKER ROOM, IT WOULD GO A LONG WAY TO ADDRESS THE CONCERN THAT I HAVE, WHICH IS EVIDENT RIGHT HERE. THAT IS GOING TO LIKELY CAUSE SOME HEARTBURN. WELL, AT LEAST FOR ME, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE REST OF THE BOARD, BUT I, I KNOW THIS CONDITION HAS COME UP IN OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE'VE REVIEWED, AND IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD LIKELY BE COMMENTING ON. ANYTHING THAT YOU CAN DO TO SHIFT THAT VERTICAL FACADE AND BREAK THE PLANE, AS WE'VE DISCUSSED EARLIER THIS EVENING, I THINK WOULD GO A LONG WAY. SECOND, I MIGHT RECOMMEND CONSIDERING THE ROOF PROFILES THAT YOU HAVE IN THE CONCESSION. LOOK AT A HIP ROOF ON THAT PRESS BOX INSTEAD OF A GABLE. I DON'T THINK THE GABLE IS DOING YOU ANY FAVORS BEING THAT TALL UP ABOVE GRADE WITH SUCH A NARROW PROFILE. SO A HIP ROOF MAY MEDIATE THAT CONDITION FAR MORE SUCCESSFULLY, 
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PERHAPS WITH A SLIGHTLY MORE EXTENDED EAVE OVERHANG THAN YOU WOULD OTHERWISE SEE. WITH A GABLE PROFILE AND A GABLE END. AND THEN LASTLY, APPRECIATE YOU ADDRESSING THE EXPOSED STAIR HEAD ON. I HAVE TWO COMMENTS ON THAT. ONE. IT'S GOING TO BE A LONG TERM MAINTENANCE ISSUE THAT WILL INEVITABLY NOT AGE WELL. IF YOU WERE TO, AND I GUESS I'LL JUST POINT TO THIS CONDITION RIGHT HERE IN THE UPPER RIGHT HAND CORNER. IF IF YOU OR MIDDLE HERE, IF YOU WERE TO SLIDE OVER THE PRESS BOX TO THE CENTER, YOU MAY CONSIDER WIDENING IT TO ENCLOSE THE STAIR. IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE FULLY ENCLOSED AND CONDITIONED, BUT JUST BRINGING THAT VERTICAL WALL SURFACE DOWN TO THE OUTSIDE OF THE STAIR, IT'S GOING TO ELIMINATE A LOT OF ALUMINUM RAILING AND BALUSTER AND ALL OF THAT STUFF THAT WILL JUST BE SUBJECT TO OXIDATION AND PAINTING, AND ALL OF THE LONG TERM ISSUES THAT WE DEAL WITH. BRINGING THAT INTO SOME KIND OF ENCLOSURE WOULD IMPROVE THE ARCHITECTURE BY GIVING YOU SOME EXTRA WIDTH TO WORK WITH AND PROBABLY SOFTEN THE OVERALL CONDITION ON SITE. I WOULD SAY IF I HAD TO PICK, I WOULD RATHER SEE THIS VERTICAL CONDITION MEDIATED MORE THAN THE STAIR, BUT THOSE WOULD BE MY TWO COMMENTS. HAND IN HAND. CAN I ADD CAN I ASK PLEASE GO RIGHT AHEAD FOR THE STAIR ITSELF AND THE ENCLOSURE OF. I MEAN, IT'S REALLY HELPING TO DRIVE THAT DECISION. AND WE WOULD PUT A FINISH ON THAT STAIR THAT WOULD MITIGATE A LOT OF THE MAINTENANCE CONCERNS. 
          BUT THOSE THOSE ARE HEARD AND WE'LL TAKE THOSE BACK AND HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS. I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE HIP ROOFS HERE QUITE A BIT. ONE THING WE ARE SORT OF PLAYING AROUND WITH WITH THIS DESIGN, BECAUSE THIS BIT HERE IS, IS AN INTERESTING SORT OF JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, FLAT ROCKET SHAPE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BUILDINGS. WE WERE CONSIDERING IF THESE WERE REMAINING TO BE GABLES, THAT WE WOULD CONTINUE THIS PORTION OF THE ROOFLINE, BECAUSE IT DOES PROTRUDE ON EITHER SIDE, LIKE A THESIS CAME OUT JUST A BIT MORE AND JUST CONTINUED THAT ALONG. MUCH LIKE WHEN YOU GUYS WERE TALKING ABOUT THE, I THINK THE SECOND BUILDING PRESENTED TONIGHT, IF THOSE WERE CONTINUED ALONG HERE, WE COULD EXTEND THAT EAVE CONDITION OUT AND WRAP THE BUILDING THAT WAY. AND THAT MIGHT ALSO BE ANOTHER WAY TO APPROACH IT. I THINK ALL OF THOSE ARE WORTHY OF CONSIDERATION. AND I MAY ADD, IF YOU DO DECIDE TO EXTEND THE THE EAVE CONDITION, I WOULD MAKE THE EXTENSION OF IT HERE VERY INTENTIONAL. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE EXCESSIVE, BUT, YOU KNOW, RATHER THAN CARRYING IT 12 TO 24IN, MAYBE BRING IT OUT LIKE 48 SO THAT IT'S, IT'S VERY CLEARLY BREAKING THE PLANE HERE. 
          YEAH, JUST, JUST ANYTHING THAT WOULD HELP DISRUPT THAT, THAT TALL ELEVATION, I THINK WOULD BE A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. BUT OTHERWISE I DON'T HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL REMARKS ON THAT. THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION AND WITH WITH THAT CONDITION BEING SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, IS WORTH INVESTIGATING, IF, IF SUCH A CONDITION WERE TO EXIST, IS THE CENTERING OF THIS NEED TO MAYBE HAPPEN OR WOULD THIS BE SOMETHING THAT WITH THAT CONDITION, IF IT BREAKS UP THAT FACADE, IF THAT LOOKS GOOD WITH THE WITH THE CURRENT COMPOSITION, WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THAT WE MAY WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT? I DON'T KNOW THAT I COULD COMMENT ON THAT. I GUESS I'D HAVE TO SEE IT, BUT I WOULD SAY AGAIN, I'LL OFFER MY SERVICES TO STAFF. IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT IS A QUESTION MARK THAT'S BEEN HANGING AS YOU GUYS ARE PREPARING YOUR NEXT SUBMISSION AND WE ARE ABLE TO REVIEW IT, I'M HAPPY TO. I GUESS I HAVE THOUGHTS ABOUT BOTH, SO I THINK IT PROBABLY IS JUST A QUICK EXERCISE IN LOOKING AT BOTH CONDITIONS AND SEEING WHICH ONE FEELS MORE SUCCESSFUL. PERFECT. THANK YOU. 
          I HAVE A FEW NOTES AND COMMENTS, THINGS TO CONSIDER, AND I THINK ANDREW DID A GOOD JOB TALKING ABOUT THE BUILDING. SO I'M GOING TO APPROACH IT FROM A KIND OF THE SPORTS SIDE OF THINGS. I WAS ACTUALLY JUST AT A BASEBALL TOURNAMENT THIS WEEKEND, AND THERE WAS A LOT OF THINGS I NOTICED. AND I'M IT'S A LITTLE LEAGUE, SO IT DOESN'T IT'S NOT AS APPLICABLE, BUT I'M SURE THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT CONSIDER ONE. THE RESTROOMS TO ME FEEL FAR AWAY. THE TWO RESTROOMS THAT ARE IN THE CONCESSION BUILDING FEEL LIKE THEY WOULD GET ALL THE USE. AND PEOPLE. I DON'T MIND WALKING THAT FAR. THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT MIGHT NOT WANT TO WALK THAT FAR, SO I WOULD WONDER IF THERE'D BE A CONSIDERATION FOR BUMPING UP THE RESTROOM COUNT CLOSER TO THE SPECTATOR AREA. ALSO, WITH HAVING HOME LOCKER ROOMS, IS THERE THE ABILITY TO FIT A RESTROOM WITHIN THAT LOCKER ROOM? YEAH. PLAYERS, IF IF THEY'RE HAVING TO LEAVE THAT AREA, MAYBE THAT'S OKAY. BUT MAYBE A CONSIDERATION. THE AREA BEHIND THE. I GUESS THE SPECTATOR AREA FEELS UNRESOLVED. IT FEELS VERY LIMITING FROM A 
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SEATING STANDPOINT. I WONDER I WOULD TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION ALL THE VIEWING ANGLES FROM THAT. I WOULD ALSO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION HOME AND AWAY TEAMS, PEOPLE SITTING RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER, THAT KIND OF THING. IT JUST IT IN ALL SPORTS, HAVING SEPARATION BETWEEN TEAMS IS CAN BE HELPFUL. AND IF YOU'RE PACKING EVERYONE IN RIGHT BEHIND HOME PLATE, IT JUST GETS, IT CAN GET A LITTLE MESSY PRETTY QUICKLY. YEAH. WITH HAVING SOLID DUGOUTS AND BULLPENS AND PRESS BOXES, YOU REALLY, YOU DO CUT DOWN ON THE VIEWING AREAS QUITE A BIT. SO A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE MIGHT BE ALONG THE FENCES, BUT WITH ALL THOSE AREAS, YOU'RE, YOU ARE CUTTING DOWN THE VIEW OF THAT. SO I JUST WOULD STRONGLY CONSIDER TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THOSE ITEMS. I WOULD ALSO IMPLORE YOU TO TALK TO COACHES, PARENTS, ETC. SEE HOW THEY USE THE BASEBALL FIELDS AND REALLY GET INSIGHT INTO THAT. ANOTHER POINT ABOUT THE THE NETTING BEHIND HOME PLATE, ESPECIALLY WITH FOUR HOME PLATES RIGHT WITHIN EACH OTHER, YOU'RE GOING TO GET A LOT OF FOUL BALLS. YES. THE PLACE WE'RE AT THIS WEEKEND HAD NETTING THAT CONNECTED FROM THE BACKSTOP TO THE CONCESSION BUILDING, SO THAT EVERY FOUL BALL WASN'T COMING DOWN ON TOP OF PEOPLE. THERE WAS ACTUALLY THE WHOLE CONCOURSE AREA BEHIND THERE WAS LIKE A SAFE ZONE WITH NETTING PROTECTION. THEN YOU ALSO HAVE A LOT OF FOUL BALLS THAT GO INTO THE NETTING. AND HOW DO YOU GET THEM? THEY HAD PAINT ROLLERS THAT PUSHED THE BALLS TO AN AREA THAT COULD GRAB THE BALL. IT'S IT'S THINGS YOU DON'T REALLY CONSIDER WHEN YOU'RE AT THIS LEVEL. BUT SAFETY IN THAT CONCOURSE WITH FOUR DIFFERENT FIELDS, IT CAN GET DANGEROUS PRETTY QUICKLY. I ALSO FELT THE THE PARKING FEELS A LITTLE BIT UNDERSIZED FOR FOR THOSE AMOUNT OF FIELDS. AND IT FEELS PRETTY FAR AWAY. I, YOU KNOW, QUICK MATH OF, OF. YOU KNOW, TWO TEAMS, 12 KIDS EACH. THAT'S THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE 48 PARENTS REAL QUICK AND NOW TIMES FOUR, IF YOU HAVE A FULL TOURNAMENT THERE, IT COULD FILL UP PRETTY QUICKLY. AND THEN WHERE'S OVERFLOW. AND SO I WOULD, I WOULD ENCOURAGE A CLOSER LOOK AT AT THE PARKING. 
          AND IT'S NOT ALWAYS JUST GAME DAY EITHER. IT'S PRACTICES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. CONSIDERING SOME OF THE FIELDS THAT ARE, IT FEELS LIKE THEY HAVE A TON OF PARKING THERE, BUT IT STILL GETS PRETTY FULL. SO I WOULD CONSIDER TAKING THAT INTO ACCOUNT AS WELL. OH, THE METAL ROOF. DOES IT NEED TO BE SOME TYPE OF HIGH IMPACT IF IT'S TAKING A LOT OF BASEBALLS TO IT AS WELL? THOSE ARE MY NOTES REALLY QUICKLY IN REGARDS TO PARKING. WE ARE THE DISTRICT, THE CITY, EVERYONE TAKING A LOOK AT THE AMENITIES WHICH ARE AROUND THE SITE. SO THIS, THIS SITE ITSELF, JUST AS PART OF THE CAMPUS, CAN MAINTAIN THAT PARK LIKE ATMOSPHERE HERE, THERE ARE PARKING OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE BEING EXPLORED ON OTHER SITES AS WELL. SO THAT IS AN ONGOING CONVERSATION THAT I WANT TO MAKE YOU GUYS AWARE OF. I THINK IT'S A GREAT FIRST FIRST LOOK AT THINGS. YEAH. GREAT PRESENTATION. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU GUYS HEARING ME TALK TONIGHT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ANY OTHER BUSINESS BEFORE THE BOARD? GOOD. I WAS WORRIED. MUST BE JOKING. THERE'S SO MUCH GOOD. IT'LL BE SO. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THIS IS. IT WAS LIKE MY PATIENTS. NO. YEAH. LET ME GET. IT'S GOING TO BE THE HIGHLIGHT OF THE NIGHT. YEAH. JUST WHERE THEY'RE HANDING OUT CAKE. OKAY. IF I COULD HAVE A DRUM ROLL, PLEASE. HEY. NO LONGER PHARMACY. YES, I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO. 
          THANK YOU. NOW, I WAS GOING TO I WAS CLEAN. I WAS GOING TO MAKE A REMARK TONIGHT THAT SAYS NOW THAT THEY'VE REPLACED THE SIGN, DO YOU THINK THEY COULD POWER WASH THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING THAT FACES SOUTH? I THOUGHT THAT WHEN I WAS OUTSIDE, WHEN I TOOK THESE PICTURES, I 
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WAS LIKE, IT'S KIND OF DIRTY. BUT NOW THAT WE'RE ON IT, WE'RE ON A SIGNAGE. THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT VEIN. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF AND THE CITY SIGNAGE DRIVING FROM. THE NEW ROUNDABOUT AT DUBLIN GRANVILLE ROAD AND MARKET EXTENSION. IF YOU GO EAST TOWARD KITZMILLER ROAD, WE HAVE SIGNS THAT SAY WALK ONLY FACING TRAFFIC. WE HAVE SIGNS THAT SAY CIGARETTES OR LITTER. WE HAVE SIGNS THAT OBVIOUSLY HAVE SPEED LIMIT. WE HAVE SIGNS THAT DELINEATE TOWNSHIP FROM CITY AND THIS AND THAT, AND MOST ALL THE SIGNS, WHICH I DON'T THINK WE NEED. 
          ALL THOSE SIGNS. DO WE PAY EXTRA TO MAKE THEM ALL CROOKED? WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. 
          JUST A THOUGHT. THANK YOU. OH, YEAH. MOTION TO DISMISS. SO MOVED. SECOND. MR. BROWN. YES. 
          MR. YES. MR. YES. MR. DAVIES.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.