Jul 21, 2026 City Council

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RIGHT. THANK YOU, CLARK MASON. GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, AND WELCOME TO THE NEW ALBANY CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR TUESDAY, JULY 21ST. I WOULD INVITE EVERYONE THAT'S ABLE TO PLEASE STAND AND RECITE OUR NATIONAL PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. CLERK MASON, THE ROLL, PLEASE. AND COUNCIL WILL TURN ON THEIR MICROPHONES. MAYOR SPALDING HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER BRISK HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. DEREK HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. KISS HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. MCCLELLAN HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER WILTROUT HERE. I HAVE SEVEN PRESENT FOR THE JULY 21ST, 2026

[4. ACTION ON MINUTES]

[5. ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO THE AGENDA]

[6. HEARING OF VISITORS]

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FAGAN, LUCA. RICHIE. CONNOR. BARR. MASON. ACKERMAN. TALON. BEAL. BRYSON. GIDDENS. AIDEN.

WELCH. DEMPSEY. BUSH. BRODY. RUSH. RUSH. PETER. I'M SORRY ON THIS ONE. TO DIP. PALLADIO.

WHITE OAK. LEAF. RYAN TRAINOR, BLAKE GRIFFIN AND JAY SMITH. WHEREAS THE HEAD COACH IS MICHAEL SANDMAN AND THE ASSOCIATE COACH COACHES ARE DON CARTER, ANDREW WESTBROOK, CHRIS KEATON, LOGAN MCCLAIN AND JONATHAN BROWN. AND WHEREAS THE 2026 NEW ALBANY HIGH SCHOOL BOYS BASEBALL TEAM PLAYED ALL OF THEIR GAMES ON THE ROAD DUE TO NOT HAVING A HOME FIELD AND STILL HAD AN OUTSTANDING SEASON WITH AN OVERALL RECORD OF 27 AND SEVEN. AND WHEREAS THE 2026 NEW ALBANY HIGH SCHOOL BOYS BASEBALL TEAM ONLY ALLOWED FOUR TOTAL RUNS IN SIX TOURNAMENT GAMES, THAT'S SOME HECK OF A GOOD PITCHING RIGHT THERE. WHEREAS THE SENIORS LED THE TEAM TO TWO OF FOUR FINAL FOUR APPEARANCES IN PROGRAM HISTORY. AND WHEREAS THE 2026 NEW ALBANY HIGH SCHOOL BOYS BASEBALL TEAM DEFEATED WALSH JESUIT HIGH SCHOOL WITH A SCORE OF 4 TO 1 TO BE DECLARED THE STATE CHAMPIONS FOR THE OSHA DIVISION TWO BOYS BASEBALL TEAM. NOW, THEREFORE, I. SLOAN SPAULDING, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY COUNTIES OF FRANKLIN AND STATE OF OHIO, ON BEHALF OF OUR COUNCIL AND RESIDENTS, WANT TO CONGRATULATE THIS TEAM FOR BEING THE STATE CHAMPIONS IN 2026. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TREMENDOUS SUPPORT OF OUR COMMUNITY AND YOUR REPRESENTATION. EVERYONE HERE IN NEW ALBANY. GENTLEMEN, CONGRATULATIONS. COACH. I THINK THAT MIKE GENERALLY WORKS. COME ON UP AND SAY A FEW WORDS. OH, I JUST WANT TO START OFF BY THANKING THE NEW ALBANY CITY COUNCIL AND MAYOR SPAULDING FOR HAVING US IN TONIGHT. THIS IS JUST A REALLY SPECIAL GROUP. THEY'VE THEY'VE COME TOGETHER.

IT'S IT'S NOT EASY WHEN YOU HAVE A LARGE ROSTER TO, TO GET EVERYBODY TO CLICK LIKE THIS GROUP DID. ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS ABOUT PLAYING ALL OF OUR GAMES ON THE ROAD LIKE WE DID WAS THEY GOT TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME TOGETHER ON THE BUS TOGETHER. AND YOU COULD SEE FROM THE TIME WE WENT TO FLORIDA SPRING BREAK TRIP, JUST THE ENERGY AND THE JOY THAT THEY HAD BEING AROUND EACH OTHER. AND IT JUST CONTINUED THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. THEY WOULD PLAY MUSIC ON THE WAY TO GAMES TO GET THEMSELVES HYPED UP, AND THEY, THEY NEVER ONCE BLINKED WHEN WE HAD TO CONTINUE TO CHANGE PLANS ALL THE TIME. THE WEEK OF THE FINAL FOUR, WE ACTUALLY PRACTICED AT FOUR VENUN PLAYED AT TWO DIFFERENT VENUES JUST IN THE ONE WEEK. SO IT SHOWS HOW MENTALLY STRONG THESE YOUNG GUYS WERE AND HOW MUCH THEY JUST BELIEVED THAT THEY WERE GOING TO WIN. IT DIDN'T MATTER WHERE WE PLAYED, WHO WE PLAYED, THEY JUST WANTED TO GO OUT AND COMPETE AND WIN. AND I'M JUST PRIVILEGED TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COACH THEM. IT'S BEEN THE HONOR OF MY LIFE TO COACH HERE AT NEW ALBANY AND WHOEVER TAKES OVER THE PROGRAM, THEY'RE WALKING INTO A GREAT SITUATION. THIS IS A BASEBALL TOWN. THE PEOPLE HERE LOVE BASEBALL, AND IT'S GOING TO KEEP ON HUMMING RIGHT ALONG BECAUSE OF THE PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM. THESE GUYS MAKE THE PROGRAM, THEY WORK THEIR TAILS OFF. AND WE'RE JUST REALLY HONORED TO BE HERE TONIGHT REPRESENTING NEW ALBANY. THANK YOU. THANKS, COACH. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAD THE TEAM CAPTAIN OR PLAYER THAT WANTED TO SAY ANYTHING, OR WE'RE STANDING IN THE WAY BETWEEN YOU AND BARBECUE, I DON'T KNOW. ANYONE.

OH COME ON. ALL RIGHT, THEN WE'LL TAKE A QUICK PHOTO AND QUICK COACH, I'LL LET YOU HAND OUT THESE PROCLAMATIONS AT YOUR LEISURE. I ONLY HAVE ONE QUESTION, COACH. HOW COME YOUR HAIR ISN'T BLOND? A LITTLE SOLIDARITY? I MEAN, COME ON. CONGRATULATIONS. YOU GUYS ARE TERRIFIC. GREAT JOB. LET'S COME UP FRONT HERE AND SEE THE COUNCIL CAN STAND UP AND GET IN THE PICTURE BEHIND YOU. HERE'S A COLLECTION OF PLAYERS AND COACHES. YEAH, I'M NOT SAYING THERE'S SOME BIG KIDS, MAN. I KNOW I'M NOT GOING TO KNOW. GET UP ON THE. ARE YOU GOING TO GET AS MUCH AT THE TOP OF MY HEAD? NONE OF US ARE VERY TALL. LIKE THE TALL ONES ARE ALL OVER THERE. YEAH, I DON'T KNOW. THEY'RE NOT. TALKING ABOUT THIS COUNCIL. OH, THEY JUST LIKE TO GET THIS ONE. OKAY. ALL. RIGHT. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU BOYS. SO IS THE HAIR PERMANENT OR

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WORKING WITH THE SCHOOLS TO BUILD A WORLD CLASS FACILITY FOR THIS TEAM MOVING FORWARD.

GOT PLENTY OF SEATS UP THERE NOW. ALL RIGHT. IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO REDISTRIBUTE THE CROWD A LITTLE BIT. GOOD SEATING RIGHT UP FRONT, AS MR. SHULL SAID. YES. ALL RIGHT. IT LOOKS LIKE WE DO HAVE A NUMBER OF SPEAKER CARDS THAT ARE HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT AN ACTUAL ISSUE ON THE AGENDA. BUT BEFORE WE START THERE, WE'RE STILL UNDER HEARING OF VISITORS. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS COUNCIL REGARDING A MATTER THAT IS NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA? ALL RIGHT. BOARDS AND COMMISSION

[7. BOARD/COMMISSION REPORTS]

THAT'S A NEW ONE FOR US, ISN'T IT? YEAH, YEAH. SO THAT FAILED. THE BOARD MEMBERS VOTED AGAINST IT TO BACKING UP. STAFF DID SAY THAT THE VARIANCE WAS SUBSTANTIAL AND WOULD MAYBE NOT MEET ALL THE DUNCAN FACTORS. AND TWO OF THE COMMISSION MEMBERS AGREED AND CITED THOSE FACTORS IN DENYING IT. WE HAD NATIONWIDE CHILDREN'S MODIFICATION, WHICH I BELIEVE

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THEN WE TALKED ABOUT EDGEHILL. SO THIS IS THE WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS AS THE PARKWAY DEVELOPMENT, THE 294 UNITS THAT WERE REZONED ACROSS THE STREET FROM ACROSS THE WAY FROM THE NEW NATIONWIDE CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL. THIS WAS THE APPLICANT CAME WITH THE PRELIMINARY AND FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. THE NEW NAME FOR THAT PROJECT IS NOW EDGEHILL. AND IT'S NOT 294 UNITS. IT'S 243 UNITS WITH 94 ROW HOMES AND 149 TOWNHOMES. I BELIEVE THAT THE APPLICANT THIS WAS THE THE THE PROJECTED STUDENTS THAT WERE GOING TO COME FROM THIS PROJECT WERE BAKED INTO THE KIND OF, I'M GOING TO CALL IT CORNERSTONE.

AGAIN, COOPERATIVE STRATEGIES REPORT AT A POINT SEVEN LOAD FACTOR. SO JUST UNDER THAT USUAL SINGLE FAMILY HOME STANDARD, THIS WOULD. WITH THE 94 ROME ROW HOMES AND 149 TOWNHOMES WILL SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCE THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS. SO GIVING US A BUFFER IN OUR ALREADY, YOU KNOW, BAKED IN PLAN STAFF HAD SOME CONDITIONS. THERE WERE 38 ACRES OF OPEN GREEN SPACE. THE MAIN GUT OF THE CONVERSATION, THOUGH, IT WAS IT WAS A ROBUST DISCUSSION.

WAS THERE EIGHT VARIANCES THAT OR SORRY, WAIVERS, WAIVERS, WAIVERS EIGHT WAIVERS. THANK YOU. THAT VARIANCES TO DISCUSS. SO THE FIRST ONE CONCERNED THE MINIMUM REQUIRED LOT SIZE. SO UNDER THE URBAN CENTER CODE AND THE DESIGN GUIDELINES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT MINIMUM REQUIRED LOT SIZE IS 25FT WIDE. THEY REQUESTED FOR MANY OF THE TOWNHOME UNITS TO BE 22 AND THE END UNIT TO BE 24.5. THESE UNITS WERE WERE TALL, SO THERE'S 2100 TO 2500FT■!S, BUT THEY REQUESTED FOR THEM TO BE A LITTLE SKINNIER. AND IN CONNECTION WITH THAT, THEY REQUESTED THAT THE THERE ARE GARAGES DIRECTLY UNDERNEATH OR BY THE UNITS BECAUSE THE PROPERTY IS SO WAS SKINNIER. THEY NEEDED TO MAKE A SKINNIER GARAGE. AND SO THEY ASKED TO HAVE ONE LARGE GARAGE DOOR INSTEAD OF TWO GARAGE DOORS, BECAUSE THERE IS NOT ENOUGH ROOM FOR TWO GARAGE DOORS. THEY ASKED FOR SMALL SURFACE AREA PARKING LOTS NOT TO BE LOCATED BEHIND PRIMARY BUILDINGS, ADDING 52 VISITOR PARKING SPOTS FOR THE PROPERTY. WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT PARKING. ON THAT NOTE, WE TALKED ABOUT ON STREET PARKING. THE THE THE ALLEYS WILL NOT NECESSARILY ARE ARE WIDER THAN OTHER ALLEYS LIKE IN WINDSOR OR IN OTHER AREAS.

WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY THINKING THAT THERE WOULD BE ON STREET PARKING IN THOSE ALLEYS THOUGH.

SO THE VISITOR PARKING WOULD BE IMPORTANT IN THAT. FOR THAT RESPECT, WE DISCUSSED, THERE ARE THESE I LEARNED ABOUT A BALDWIN WINDOW, THE BALDWIN PROJECT. IS THAT JUST LIKE THE NAME OF THE. THAT'S NOT LIKE AN ARCHITECTURAL TERM. OKAY, I THOUGHT I KNEW ARCHITECTURAL TERM YESTERDAY. THERE WERE A CERTAIN PROPERTY, CERTAIN TYPE PRODUCTS OF THIS HOUSE, OF THIS PROJECT WHERE A TOWNHOME WHERE THEY HAD A IT WAS CALLED THE BALDWIN. THEY HAD A SMALL WINDOW IN THE ON THE FACADE OF THE BUILDING NOW UNDER THE URBAN CENTER CODE, IF YOU HAVE SHUTTERS ON ANY OF THE WINDOWS, YOU HAVE TO HAVE SHUTTERS ON ALL THE WINDOWS. SO THIS WAIVER WAS FOR ONE OF THE LITTLE WINDOWS TO NOT HAVE A SHUTTER. THERE WAS A WAIVER TO HAVE SOME PRIMARY HOME ENTRANCES, FACE OPEN SPACE OR PARKLAND RATHER THAN A STREET. AND THEN THERE WAS A WAIVER TO ASK A WAIVER TO ALLOW FOR VINYL WINDOWS. OKAY. THERE WAS A THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN ITSELF WAS APPROVED 3 TO 1. THE MEMBER WHO VOTED AGAINST IT THOUGHT THAT THE LAYOUT DID NOT MEET THE INTENT OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN, CONNECTIVITY, OR THE SPIRIT OF NEW ALBANY. MOST OF THE WAIVERS DID PASS, ALTHOUGH THERE WAS. THERE WAS A REQUEST TO TABLE

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OKAY. AND I'M SORRY, DID DID THE REQUEST FOR A WAIVER FOR THE VINYL WINDOWS GET APPROVED OR NOT? IT'S A 3 TO 1. OKAY. YEAH. I THINK THERE'S A NUMBER OF HOMEOWNERS IN NEW ALBANY THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DONE WITH WHAT. BUT YEAH, I MEAN, THE INDUSTRY HAS CHANGED A LOT AND THOSE PRODUCTS HAVE BEEN APPROVED. AND WHILE THEY MAY BE DIFFERENT MATERIAL, THE LOOK AND QUALITY OF ITS, YOU KNOW, MEETS THE STANDARD. WE HAD A WE HAD A LONG DISCUSSION, A VERY EDUCATIONAL DISCUSSION. I THINK ABOUT THE, THE NEED FOR FLEXIBILITY IN THOSE CERTAIN STANDARDS, ESPECIALLY AS IT RELATES TO THE URBAN CITY CODE OR URBAN CENTER CODE, AND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A WAIVER AND A VARIANCE. AND I THINK THAT THE WAIVER REQUEST WAS REALLY ONE OF THOSE SITUATIONS WHERE IT WAS APPROPRIATE TO BE FLEXIBLE, RIGHT, TO ALLOW FOR, YOU KNOW, NEW PRODUCTS, NEW IDEAS THAT MAYBE DON'T FIT WITHIN WHAT THE CODE CONTEMPLATED. SO WE LEARNED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE STANDARD AND THE DIFFERENT STANDARDS.

AND THEN I DIDN'T SEE EVERY MINUTE OF THE MEETING. BUT IS THAT THE FINAL ROUND OF APPROVAL FOR PLANNING COMMISSION, OR IS THERE AN ADDITIONAL FINAL PLAT REVIEW, FINAL PLAT REVIEW? YEAH. OKAY. AND THEN THE STAFF IS GOING, SORRY, THE STAFF IS GOING TO LOOK AT THE FACE IN FOR THE ENTIRE THE WATER RETENTION BASIN FOR THE ENTIRE PROJECT.

AND I'M VERY EXCITED BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BE HEARING SOME DAY SOON ABOUT AN AMAZING PLAYGROUND THERE AS WELL. YOU MAY HAVE MENTIONED THIS, THE, THE VARIANCE WAIVER TO TO SKINNY. YES. WAS THAT DONE TO PROVIDE MORE SPACE FOR GREEN SPACE OR WHAT WAS THE WHAT WAS THE REASON BEHIND THE, THE REQUEST? SO IT WAS A, IT WAS TO. YEAH, I THINK IT WAS TO PROVIDE PROBABLY MORE GREEN SPACE, BUT ALSO JUST TO FIT WITH THE, THE TYPOLOGY OF THE PRODUCT THAT THEY WERE OFFERING THAT SORT OF LIKE ROWHOUSE TOWNHOME THAT IS TALLER AND SKINNIER. DO EITHER OF YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD MORE THAN THAT? NO, I THINK YOU DESCRIBED IT. OKAY. YEAH, YEAH.

AND I THINK THERE AGAIN, THERE WAS A CONVERSATION ABOUT TRYING TO KEEP THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE LIVING SPACE AT A CERTAIN LEVEL, TRYING TO CREATE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A PRODUCT IN NEW ALBANY THAT'S NOT PREVALENT RIGHT NOW. SO IF YOU LIVE IN A 6000 SQUARE FOOT HOME AND YOU WANT TO DOWNSIZE, YOU PROBABLY DON'T WANT TO DOWNSIZE TO A 4000 SQUARE FOOT HOME, MAYBE CLOSER TO 25. SO I THINK THAT WAS PART OF THE DISCUSSION. AND THEN IF I UNDERSTOOD IT CORRECTLY, THIS IS A PRODUCT THAT EMMIS HAD SUCCESS IN IN OTHER PARTS OF CENTRAL OHIO, IN PART, LIKE IN GRANDVIEW HEIGHTS. AND AGAIN, THE THREE STORY FEATURE, THE SORT OF NARROWNESS OF THE OF THE DESIGN IS PART OF THE ARCHITECTURAL, YOU KNOW, UNIQUENESS OF THAT PRODUCT. SO I THINK THEY WERE TRYING TO THEY WERE TRYING TO MIRROR THAT. GOT IT. SO IT FITS A PRODUCT THAT THEY ALREADY HAVE OR WOULD LIKE TO, TO HAVE HERE. AND WE JUST NEED TO HAVE THE VARIANCE SIMILAR. AND IT MIGHT EVEN MAKE YOU THINK SIMILAR. ARE THEY TRYING TO SQUEEZE MORE HOMES ON THIS LOT? RIGHT. MAYBE YOU THINK OH THEY'RE SKINNIER SO THEY'RE TRYING TO PUT MORE HOMES. WELL NO, THIS THEY ACTUALLY HAD THE WARRANT. THEY HAD THE ALLOWANCE TO HAVE 40 MORE HOMES THAT THEY DIDN'T EVEN PUT ON. SO IT WAS THAT'S A THAT'S A GOOD POINT. I'M GLAD YOU MADE THAT. YEAH. JUST A QUICK QUESTION. WAS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT IN LOOKING AT THE DRAWING, VIRTUALLY ALL 243 HOMES EMPTY OUT ONTO GANTON AND ONTO 62 500FT FROM THE FIRE STATION. NONE OF IT EMPTIES DOWN ONTO OLD 161. WHY ISN'T THERE WHY WEREN'T THERE MORE

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WE THEN IT WAS LIKE 11 I THINK WHEN THEY STARTED, STARTED A SHORT 50 PAGE POWERPOINT PRESENTATION ON THE THE WALTON PARKWAY COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND FORMAL REVIEW, WHICH YOU ALL SHOULD TAKE A LOOK AT. IT UNFORTUNATELY DID NOT. I WASN'T ABLE TO PRINT IT OUT BECAUSE IT WAS REVIEWED ELECTRONICALLY, BUT WALTON PARKWAY WILL BE OVER. IT'S OUR FIRST PROJECT FROM THE US 62 PLAN, A 27 ACRE SITE THAT WILL INCLUDE A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, AND WE BELIEVE THAT THEY WILL BE COMING BACK WITH MORE INFORMATION ABOUT PROPOSED DENSITY AND PRODUCT.

IT WAS A VERY HIGH LEVEL DISCUSSION. ANYTHING I MISSED, I THINK I WAS, I DON'T THINK SO.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ON THE REPORT? ALL RIGHT. THAT TAKES US TO THE PARKS AND TRAILS ADVISORY BOARD, WHICH IS STILL OPEN. BUT IS THERE A STAFF REPORT? NO. OKAY.

ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD. OKAY. MY APOLOGIES. BEFORE WE GO PAST THAT, SINCE WE DON'T HAVE AN APPOINTED LIAISON FOR PARKS AND TRAILS. YEAH. DO WE WANT TO APPOINT A COUNCIL MEMBER TO THAT POSITION? ANYONE HAVE A. I WOULD APPOINT JOHN MCCLELLAN TO THAT POSITION. I WOULD SECOND THAT, I WONDER. YEAH, I MOVED TO APPOINT JOHN MCCLELLAN TO THE PARKS AND TRAILS ADVISORY BOARD. SECOND, THAT MOTION. ALL RIGHT. ON THE MOTION TO APPOINT COUNCIL MEMBER MCCLELLAN. COUNCIL MEMBER. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. YES. COUNCILMEMBER. SCHULTZ.

YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. MCCLELLAN. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. KISS. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. DETRICK. YES.

MAYOR. SPALDING. YES. SEVEN. YES. VOTES TO APPOINT COUNCIL MEMBER MCCLELLAN TO BE THE COUNCIL LIAISON FOR THE PARKS AND TRAILS ADVISORY BOARD. OKAYE WITH THE SMILE AND A BIT OF A SMIRK, BUT IT ACTUALLY IS A REALLY IMPORTANT ELEMENT OF WHAT WE DO. YOU KNOW, NEW

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AND WHAT THEY WANT TO WELL, THEY I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ACTUALLY NEEDED TO. I THINK THEY DID ENOUGH WORK THAT THEY HAD TO DO IT, BUT THEY WANT TO DO AN ADA RAMP IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING. AND THEY CAME IN WITH A DESIGN THAT AT FIRST EVERYTHING WENT FINE. GOOD. AND THEN THEY STARTED TALKING AND ALL THE DIFFERENT ARCHITECTS IN THE ROOM STARTED TALKING. AND NEXT THING YOU KNOW, THEY CHANGED IT DRAMATICALLY. BUT THE OWNER WAS GREAT WITH THE CHANGES. INSTEAD OF HAVING A WHAT I WOULD SAY IS KIND OF AN EYESORE. TYPICAL WHITE BIG FENCE IN FRONT, YOU KNOW, WITH THE RAMP GOING UP AND DOWN, THEY'RE GOING TO DO A BRICK KNEE WALL AND THEY FIGURED OUT THEY COULD DO IT BASED ON THE ELEVATIONS. AND THEY CAME UP WITH A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT IDEAS WHERE IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE A REALLY NICE PROJECT.

AND THE OWNER WAS REALLY INTO IT, LIKE REALLY LIKING WHAT THEY WERE COMING UP WITH, AND THEY FELT CONFIDENT. THE ARCHITECTS KNEW ENOUGH TO SAY THAT THIS WILL BE ADA APPROPRIATE. AND SO THAT WAS KIND OF COOL TO WATCH THAT HAPPEN, RIGHT? I SEE CHRIS NODDING HIS HEAD ON THAT ONE. THAT WAS THAT WAS PRETTY COOL. NEXT WAS NATIONWIDE CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL, WHICH ANDREA TALKED ABOUT. WHAT THEY DID WAS THEY ACTUALLY MOVED THE SIGN. IT WAS KIND OF WEIRD WHERE THEY HAD THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING TO PUT IT TO BEGIN WITH. IT KIND OF TO HER POINT, I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY THOUGHT ANYBODY WAS GOING TO SEE IT. SO THEY ADDED A NEW PARAPET AT THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING SO THAT THE SIGNAGE SIGNAGE IS VERY CLEAR AND RIGHT UP AT THE FRONT WHERE EVERYBODY CAN SEE IT AS THEY APPROACH. AND THAT WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED. AND THEN THE NEXT THING WE HAD WAS ALSO EDGEHILL AND EDGEHILL, FOR ARB WAS NOT NEARLY AS SIGNIFICANT, BECAUSE THEY KNEW THAT WHAT THEY WERE DOING WAS LOOKING AT THESE INITIAL RENDERINGS AND EVERYTHING THAT THAT IT WAS GOING NEXT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AND THEY UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED IT TO GO FORWARD TO PLANNING COMMISSION.

AND THE LAST THING WAS AN INFORMAL REVIEW, JUST VERY INFORMAL DISCUSSION, NO VOTE ABOUT THE PLANNING OF THE NEW SCHOOL ATHLETIC FIELDS, TALKING ABOUT PLACEMENT OF DIFFERENT AMENITIES AND WHERE THEY MIGHT DO THINGS. AND THEY GOT A LOT OF FEEDBACK. SO THEY, I THINK, ARE GOING BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD. SO THEY'RE REALLY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THE I COULDN'T TELL YOU TODAY HOW IT'S GOING TO LOOK BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH, BUT IT WAS A GOOD DISCUSSION. I THINK EVERYONE APPRECIATED WHAT THEY WERE HEARING FROM EACH OTHER.

SO AND THAT WAS THE ARB MEETING. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT REPORT. ALL RIGHT. ANY MEETING OF THE BZA? NO MEETING, BUT I ATTENDED THE ONE BEFORE AND NEGLECTED TO BRING A REPORT LAST TIME. SO I WANT TO CATCH EVERYBODY UP ON THAT. I APOLOGIZE. I COVERED FOR MATT AND THEN FORGOT I COVERED FOR HIM AND LEFT MY NOTES AT HOME. SO THEY MET ON JUNE 22ND AND I WAS IN ATTENDANCE. AND THERE WERE TWO VARIANCES THAT WERE LOOKED AT. THE FIRST WAS 4326 OLMSTEAD ROAD, A PRIVATE HOME. THE PROPERTY IS IN THE VILLAGE CENTER BETWEEN JOHNSTOWN ROAD

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AND CITY STAFF FELT THAT THIS WAS A SUBSTANTIAL VARIATION. AND I KIND OF GOT THE SENSE THAT THEY WERE THAT THE THE INDICATIONS FROM CITY STAFF WERE THEY DIDN'T LOVE IT, BUT THEY WEREN'T TOTALLY AGAINST IT. AND PART OF THE DEAL WAS BECAUSE IT HAPPENS THAT THE HOME ABUTS FENWAY PARK. SO IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ENCROACHING RIGHT ON TOP OF SOMEONE ELSE'S HOME. HOWEVER, THE VISUAL DESIGN AND THE WAY THAT IT WILL LOOK AND CONSISTENCY FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD VERSUS OTHER HOMES IS STILL SUBSTANTIAL. NOT GREAT. I'M FLIPPING PAGES BECAUSE I HAD SOME NOTES HERE THAT I'M TRYING TO FIND AND, AND LET'S SEE. SO THEY SO THAT'S WHERE THEY WERE AT. AND THEY SUGGESTED STAFF HAD SUGGESTED. ONE OF. THE THING WAS THAT THEY HAD TO HAVE THE GARAGE ATTACHED TO THE MAIN HOME IF THEY APPROVE IT. SO IT ENDED UP GOING THROUGH AND PASSING ON A VOTE OF THREE. YES. ONE. NO, THE NO. BEING MR. ABE JACOBS IS WITH US THIS EVENING WHO WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE PRECEDENT THAT IT SET BECAUSE THEY HAD INDICATED STAFF HAD INDICATED THAT THE ONLY TIME THIS HAD BEEN EXCEPTIONS BEFORE WERE CORNER LOTS OR SIGNIFICANT STRUCTURAL REASONS WHY IT SHOULD BE AN EXCEPTION. AND THEY WEREN'T REALLY FINDING THAT HERE. AND SO IT NONETHELESS PASSED THE LITTLE ONE. WHAT WAS THE ADDRESSING OF THE THE ADDRESS IS LET ME GO BACK TO THE FRONT 4326 OLMSTEAD ROAD BETWEEN JOHNSTOWN AND REYNOLDSBURG, NEW ALBANY. IT'S RIGHT UP AGAINST THE PARK. YEAH.

RIGHT. AND THEY'RE BUILDING A NEW BUILD THERE. SO THE OTHER VARIANCE WAS AT INNOVATION PARKWAY. IT'S 7.3 ACRES OF VACANT LAND IN THE BUSINESS PARK ON THE NORTH SIDE OF INNOVATION PARKWAY. AND IT WAS A PAVEMENT SETBACK VARIANCE. AGAIN, A NEW BUILD BEING DONE.

AND THE REASONING FOR THE VARIANCE IS THAT THE LOT DIRECTLY TO THE EAST OF IT, THEY HAVE THEY SHARE A COMMON LOT LINE. THEY'RE VERY CLOSE TOGETHER. THE APPLICANT WANTED A VARIANCE TO ALLOW A NEW PARKING LOT TO ENCROACH 20FT INTO THE REQUIRED 25 FOOT SIDE YARD PAVEMENT, SETBACK ON A VACANT PARCEL AND WHAT WAS DISCUSSED, WHAT WAS PART OF THE PLAN, WHAT STAFF HAD RECOMMENDED AND THE APPLICANT HAD AGREED TO WAS THAT THEY WOULD HAVE A A WHAT'S THE TERM I'M LOOKING FOR HERE? A A JOINT. I'M GOING TO COME UP WITH THIS HERE BASICALLY LIKE A JOINT, A JOINT USE AGREEMENT WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER ON THE OTHER SIDE SO THAT THEY COULD HAVE A SHARED DRIVE. AND THAT IS SOMETHING THEY'VE ALREADY GOT WORKED OUT. AND THAT'S A CONDITION OF THIS OF THIS REQUEST. THE ENCROACHMENT IS NOT ABOVE GRADE ACCORDING TO STAFF AND WILL BE VISUALLY MINIMAL. AND THEY'LL HAVE WHAT'S CALLED A CROSS ACCESS CONDITION WITH THE ADJACENT SITE. THANK YOU FOR FINDING THAT NOTE. AND SO THEY SUGGESTED THAT THEY THAT THE APPROVAL BE CONDITIONED ON THE CROSS ACCESS. AND THAT WENT THROUGH UNANIMOUSLY. AND IT IS A SPECULATIVE BUILDING, BY THE WAY, NOBODY IS SURE YET EXACTLY WHAT IT WILL BE. IT'S EXPECTED TO BE SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF OFFICE, WAREHOUSE FLEX SPACE. AND THAT WAS IT. THAT WAS IT. THANKS FOR ALSO PITCHING IN.

ALL RIGHT. YEAH. ANY UPDATE FROM THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD? YES. MEETING LAST WEDNESDAY, JULY 10TH. WE HAD A COUPLE, IF YOU REMEMBER, WE HAVE THE STUDENT LEADERS IN SUSTAINABILITY PROGRAM. WE HAD A COUPLE APPLICANT APPLICANTS COME IN TO PITCH THEIR IDEAS.

ONE IS TO REPLACE WORN OUT BENCHES AT CIRCUIT WOODS WITH NEW SUSTAINABLE BENCHES. AND THE SECOND PROJECT IS TO EXPLORE EXPANDING RECYCLING OPPORTUNITIES AT BETHLEHEM PARK,

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[8. CORRESPONDENCE/COMMUNICATIONS]

[9. SECOND READING OF ORDINANCES AND PUBLIC HEARING]

INCREASED THE SETBACKS ALONG EAST DUBLIN GRANVILLE ROAD FROM 50FT TO 60FT TO BETTER MATCH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS. RELOCATED THE PLAYGROUND CLOSER TO THE HOMES ALONG THE STREET AT THE NORTH WEST CORNER OF THE SUBDIVISION, RIGHT UP HERE. AND AS WELL, THEY MADE MINOR REVISIONS TO THE PROPOSED STORMWATER BASIN. ALSO IN THAT NORTHWEST CORNER. THIS ORDINANCE MAY BE ADOPTED THIS EVENING, AND I WILL HAND IT OVER TO THE APPLICANT TO GO OVER THEIR PRESENTATION AS WELL. ALL RIGHT, MR. UNDERHILL. REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT. SO IT'S BEEN A COUPLE OF MONTHS SINCE WE'VE BEEN BEFORE YOU AND HAD A DISCUSSION ON THE PROJECT.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE HEARD ALL THE QUESTIONS LOUDLY AND CLEARLY. SO I WANTED TO START BY UPDATING YOU ON WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS. IS THERE ANY WAY TO MAKE THIS A LITTLE LONGER? YEAH, SORRY. OKAY. SO AS KYLIE BRIEFLY TOUCHED ON, THE NUMBER ONE THING WE DID WAS WE REMOVED THIS LOT HERE. SO WE'VE GONE FROM IF YOU ACTUALLY DO THE

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THEIR DAUGHTER, IN FACT, LIVES AROUND THE CORNER. WELL, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD NEXT DOOR. SO, YOU KNOW, SHE'S NOT AN ABSENTEE OWNER. SHE, SHE DOES HAVE A SISTER THAT LIVES OUT OF TOWN, BUT THEY'VE INHERITED THE PROPERTY. AND THIS IS REALLY THE MAIN PART OF THEIR ESTATE THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOING TO INHERIT THE FUNDS FROM THE SALE. BUT HERE'S A PRAIRIE HOUSE SITE HERE WHERE SHE LIVES. SO SHE IS DIRECTLY IMPACTED BY THIS, WHICH I THINK IS MEANINGFUL AS WELL. IT'S NOT LIKE SHE LIVES ACROSS TOWN. THIS IS A, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE REASONS I THINK SHE WON'T MIND LIVING BY THIS IS THIS IS THE THESE ARE THE CHARACTER IMAGES WE'VE COMMITTED TO IN THE ZONING TEXT. SO THESE ARE NOT THE ACTUAL HOMES THAT WILL BE BUILT, BUT THEY'RE INDICATIVE OF THE CHARACTER. THESE WILL BE CUSTOM AND SEMI-CUSTOM HOMES. I KNOW, MAYOR, YOU'VE ASKED ME PREVIOUSLY WHO WOULD BUILD THESE HOMES. WE WE SEE THESE AS LIKE AS THE TYPICAL CUSTOM BUILDERS THAT WOULD BUILD IN LIKE AN OXFORD IN TOWN OR IN THE COUNTRY CLUB COMMUNITY. THESE HOMES ARE EXPECTED TO BE AN AVERAGE VALUE OF $2 MILLION.

BUT THAT FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN STAGE WILL CONTINUE TO REFINE THIS. OBVIOUSLY, EACH HOME WILL NOT COME BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR APPROVAL. JUST LIKE IN THE COUNTRY CLUB COMMUNITIES, IT WILL BE A STAFF FUNCTION, BUT WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR ANY RELIEF FROM DGRS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. AND WE'RE GOING WITH THE TYPICAL GEORGIAN THEME HERE. I THOUGHT AS A COMPARISON, WHAT WHAT WOULD BE A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WAS SORT OF LIKE WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE.

THIS IS THE CROSSING. THESE ARE SOME PHOTOS FROM GOOGLE MAPS, BUT THESE HAVE THE SAME OR VERY SIMILAR SETBACK REQUIREMENTS AND ENCROACHMENT ALLOWANCES. AND AND IN SOME INSTANCES, ZERO YARDS SETBACKS. SO THIS GIVES YOU A REAL WORLD EXAMPLE OF THE FLAVOR OF, OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO. SO I WANT TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF A STEP BACK TO THE BEGINNING OF THIS PROJECT AND KIND OF WALK YOU THROUGH HOW WE GOT HERE. SO BEFORE I TAKE ON ANY PROJECT, I, I'M FORTUNATE TO HAVE A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY TO WORK IN NEW ALBANY AND OTHER PLACES, BUT I ALWAYS ASKED MYSELF, IS WHAT MY CLIENT'S PROPOSING REASONABLE REQUEST. AND FRANKLY, YOU'D BE SURPRISED AT HOW MANY TIMES I TURN AWAY PROJECTS THAT NEVER EVEN REACH YOU. AND I CONSIDER MYSELF A BIT OF A GATEKEEPER FOR THE COMMUNITY AS WELL. I MEAN, PEOPLE CAN GO TRY AND DO WHATEVER THEY WANT WITHOUT ME. BUT, YOU KNOW, I TRY TO BE TRY TO BE A REALIST. AND HERE I CONCLUDED THAT THE PROPOSAL WAS REASONABLE. AND WHY THAT IS, IS THE SITE IS ALREADY ZONED R-2, WHICH BASICALLY THE THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE STANDARD IS 200 ZERO SQUARE FEET, WHICH IS ROUGHLY A LITTLE LESS THAN HALF AN ACRE. AND THAT WOULD HAVE ALLOWED 40 UNITS, WHICH IS 2.1 UNITS AN ACRE. SO I SAW THAT AS A BASELINE COMPARISON. NOW, THE PICKETT PLACE COMMUNITY JUST TO THE SOUTH IS 2.7 UNITS AN ACRE PER THE ZONING. I. IT APPEARS TO ME THAT IT WAS BUILT IN

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REALLY, THE CITY HAS NO ABILITY TO GO IN AND ENFORCE THOSE ON THE R-2 ZONING. IF YOU WERE TO DEVELOP UNDER IT WITH VARIANCES. BUT HERE, I THINK WHAT'S IN IT FOR THE CITY IS WE'VE DONE A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT DO MEET THE STRATEGIC PLAN. YOU KNOW, HOMES SHOULD NOT BACK TO PARKS AND OPEN SPACE OR THE STREETS WITH THESE CHANGES. WE'VE WE'VE DONE EXACTLY THAT. WE'VE AVOIDED THAT SITUATION IN ALL CASES. WE'VE MADE COMMITMENTS HERE FOR THESE ALL TO BE SIDE LOADED WITH A COMMITMENT IN HERE TO TO LANDSCAPE IN ACCORDANCE WITH WHAT'S ACROSS THE STREET AT PICKETT PLACE. SO WHEN WE COME THROUGH WITH THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WE'LL HAVE TO GO TO THAT LEVEL OF LANDSCAPING IN ORDER TO, YOU KNOW, BUILD THESE HOMES AND DEMONSTRATE, YOU KNOW, SOME BUFFERING BETWEEN THAT AND THE PUBLIC STREET, THE CODE THAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY YOUR SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS. IF THE PROPERTY WERE TO DEVELOP UNDER THE R-2, I THINK IT CALLS IT AN ARTERIAL STREET, BUT IT WOULD BE A 40 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATION. WHEREAS HERE WE'RE WE'RE PROVIDING A 50 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATION FROM THE CENTER LINE ON W GRANVILLE ROAD. AND I THINK THAT'S MEANINGFUL GIVEN THE CONCERNS WITH TRAFFIC.

IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THE CITY MAY BE LOOKING TO DO A MORE COMPREHENSIVE STUDY THAN THAT LOOKS BEYOND JUST THIS PROJECT. AND I THINK HAVING THAT EXTRA TEN FOOT OF RIGHT OF WAY MAY BE A REAL BENEFIT IN THE FUTURE. I DID WANT TO DEMONSTRATE, YOU KNOW, THE PROPERTY AROUND US DOES HAVE A BUNCH OF HOMES BACKING THE OPEN SPACE. WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO AVOID IT. I UNDERSTAND THIS IS IN COLUMBUS AND THIS WAS DONE LONG AGO, BUT THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY. UNLIKE THOSE PROJECTS WHICH DEVELOPED QUITE A WHILE AGO, FOR US TO MAKE THE STANDARDS MORE MODERN AND TO TO MAKE THAT COMMITMENT NOT TO BACK. THE FINAL ITEM I WANTED TO ADDRESS IS THE TRANSPARENCY THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED WITH THIS PROJECT TO THE NEIGHBORS AND THE APPLICANT'S WILLINGNESS, IN MY OPINION, TO ADDRESS CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP NOT ONLY BY THEM BUT BY CITY STAFF AND OTHER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS ALONG THE WAY. AS PROMISED, I SENT AN EMAIL ABOUT A WEEK AGO, GOING INTO GREAT DETAIL WITH TO THE TO THE NEIGHBORS AND EXPLAINING THE CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE IN THIS LATEST PLAN. AND ALSO ALONG THE WAY, YOU KNOW, I, I HOSTED A MEETING BACK, I THINK IT WAS FEBRUARY 11TH AT MY OFFICE IN THE CONFERENCE ROOM AND HAD ABOUT 35 PEOPLE IN ATTENDANCE. SO HAD A LIST OF PEOPLE WHO I COULD COMMUNICATE WITH THROUGH THAT PROCESS. AND I HAVE EMAILED AT LEAST TWO OTHER OCCASIONS, AND I JUST TRIED TO M MAKE SURE EVERYBODY WAS WELL AWARE OF WHAT WE'RE DOING. YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE NEIGHBORS INVOLVEMENT HAS GREATLY CHANGED THIS PLAN, FRANKLY. AND WE'VE LISTENED THIS WAS THE PLAN APPROVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION ORIGINALLY, AND THIS IS FOR 39 LOTS. IT HAD THE SAME LOOP CONFIGURATION. AND THERE ARE A LOT OF SIMILARITIES HERE. BUT WE HAD THIS CUL DE SAC CONDITION. AND THEN WE HAD THIS

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WHEN YOU ASSUME POINT EIGHT KIDS PER UNIT, WHICH ANDREA TOUCHED ON THE POINT SEVEN BEFORE EVEN HIGHER THAN THAT, AND ASSUMED POINT EIGHT PER UNIT HERE. BUT IT'S A IT'S A GOOD WIN FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT FINANCIALLY. AND YOU KNOW, IT IT IT OVERALL, I THINK HAS ENDED UP A BETTER PROJECT THROUGH THIS PROCESS. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WILL CLOSE MY REMARKS AND HAPPY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS OR WAIT UNTIL AFTER YOU HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC.

FIRST, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU BECAUSE I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN THROUGH A LOT OF WORK ON THIS.

I KNOW WE'VE PUT YOU THROUGH A LOT OF PROCESS AND AND I THINK YOU HAVE MADE A MUCH BETTER PRODUCT AS A RESULT. AND I THINK YOU'VE BEEN VERY REASONABLE AND PATIENT AND, AND, AND, AND, AND YOU'VE REACTED WELL TO, YOU KNOW, THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE'VE SUGGESTED WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THE, OUR, OUR LEGISLATIVE REPORT, THERE ARE SOME NOTES HERE STILL ABOUT THE CONDITIONS FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

SO I WANT TO CLARIFY THAT WITH YOU. THEY STARTED OUT WITH 12 CONDITIONS ACCORDING TO THIS.

IF THIS IS STILL CURRENT, WHICH IT WAS JUST GIVEN TO US, THERE ARE FIVE OF THOSE CONDITIONS THAT IT SAYS HAVE STILL NOT BEEN ADDRESSED. I THINK SOME OF THEM MAYBE IT'S JUST TOO SOON TO HAVE ADDRESSED THEM. THAT'S RIGHT. BUT RECALL ALL OF THEM. BUT I THINK THEY PROBABLY CAN I RUN THEM THROUGH REAL QUICK WITH YOU. JUST TELL ME WHERE WE'RE AT ON IT. SO THE CITY ENGINEER'S COMMENTS MUST BE ADDRESSED, SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL, PROVIDE DOCUMENTATION SHOWING THAT ALL EXISTING PRIVATE, WELL AND SEPTIC SYSTEMS IN THE SUBJECT AREA HAVE BEEN ABANDONED. PROVIDE ENVIRONMENTAL PERMIT APPROVALS. STOP ME ANYTIME IF YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING SEPARATE. PROVIDE ENVIRONMENTAL PERMIT APPROVALS WHEN THEY BECOME AVAILABLE.

PROVIDE A FIRE TRUCK TURNING RADIUS ANALYSIS AND OBTAIN FIRE DEPARTMENT APPROVALS AND REVISE THE CURB RADIUS AT THE CURB. CUT TO MATCH WHAT IS SHOWN ACROSS THE STREET AT PICKETT PLACE. HAS THAT BEEN ADDRESSED YET? THOSE HAVE NOT, AND THOSE WOULD TYPICALLY BE MORE OF A I WOULDN'T CALL THEM FINAL ENGINEERING, BUT FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN FUNCTION. SO FOR INSTANCE, LET'S TAKE THE THE REMOVAL OF THE WELL AND SEPTIC. WE OBVIOUSLY CAN'T. WE WOULDN'T REMOVE THE HOME UNTIL WE KNOW WE HAD A ZONING. AND SO WE NEED TO ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY REMOVE IT AND THEN CAP THOSE AND GET ALL THE APPROVALS. SIMILARLY, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WOULD NEED TO GET THE ENVIRONMENTAL PERMITS IN ACCORDANCE WITH AN APPROVED PLAN. SO IT'S, IT'S PREMATURE TO FILE THOSE UNTIL WE HAVE A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT THE APPROPRIATE AGENCIES CAN REACT TO. SO THAT'S KIND OF THE GENERAL THEME FOR THE FOR THOSE ADDRESS FOR THOSE. WE COULD DO THAT AT THIS STAGE. SO DO WE HAVE YOUR COMMITMENT THEN THAT IF THE IF THIS ORDINANCE IS APPROVED, THAT THOSE CONDITIONS WILL BE MET AS PART OF THE PROCESS? ABSOLUTELY. AND IF YOU IF YOU WANTED TO ADOPT THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S CONDITIONS AS YOUR OWN AS WELL AS PART OF OUR ORDINANCE, I THINK THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA.

NUMBER TWO, THE APPLICANT SHALL WORK WITH ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOODS TO CREATE ADDITIONAL LEISURE TRAIL CONNECTIONS IN ADJACENT PARKLAND AREAS WHERE POSSIBLE.

AGAIN, THIS SOUNDS LIKE THIS IS PROBABLY PART OF FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN WITH FINAL,

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CORRECT. DO WE HAVE THAT THE CITY'S TRAFFIC STUDY THAT WE'RE GOING TO UNDERTAKE INDEPENDENTLY WILL ACTUALLY BE MORE IN DEPTH AND COVER A BROADER AREA. SO WE'VE COMMITTED TO DOING THAT. YES. OKAY. I KNEW THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WE COMMITTED TO IT. OKAY. I JUST WAS WONDERING WHAT THE TIMELINE ON THE TRAFFIC STUDY IS. WE HOPE TO HAVE THAT BACK FROM THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER BY END OF SEPTEMBER. OKAY. AND I GUESS WHEN I WHEN I READ THIS AND I THINK ABOUT IT, OKAY, SO WE GET A STUDY, BUT WHAT IF THE STUDY TELLS US SOMETHING NEGATIVE? WHAT WHAT THEN HAPPENS? HOW DO WE PROTECT OURSELVES IN TERMS OF DOES THIS GET REDESIGNED TO, YOU KNOW, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THAT PLAN? I THINK THAT HAS TO BE PART OF THE STATEMENT. RIGHT? ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH THAT? WELL, I THINK, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S IF IT'S TRIGGERED OR BY OUR DEVELOPMENT, THAT'S FINE. OH, OF COURSE, OF COURSE. I GET THAT. YEAH. IF WE FIND THAT HARLEM ROAD IS CREATING ALL THE PROBLEMS, THAT'S NOT YOUR PROBLEM. TRAFFIC STUDIES AND ANALYZES WORK IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL NEW TO ME. BUT THE TRAFFIC ENGINEERS GET TOGETHER AND THEY THEY PUT TOGETHER WHAT'S CALLED AN MOU. AND THEY, THEY DETERMINE WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO STUDY. AND I'M NOT GOING TO SPEAK FOR THE CITY NECESSARILY, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT WAS THOUGHT THAT UNDER CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES, THINGS LIKE A TURN LANE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE WARRANTED FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT. NOW, WHETHER THEY'RE WARRANTED BASED ON OTHER THINGS GOING ON IN THE AREA, THAT'S A DIFFERENT STORY.

NEVER SHIED AWAY FROM TAKING CARE OF OUR OWN IMPACTS. SO IF IT CAN BE WORDED IN A WAY THAT PROTECTS US FROM NOT HAVING TO TAKE ON A BURDEN OF SOMETHING THAT'S BEING CAUSED BY ANOTHER CONDITION, WE WOULD BE FINE WITH THAT. THAT'S THAT'S FAIR. AND THAT THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO LOOK TO OUR LEGAL COUNSEL TO HELP US WITH. THEN, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE HE'S RIGHT. I MEAN, HE MAY BE THE FINAL TIME TIPPING POINT OF SOMETHING MUCH BIGGER. AND THAT SHOULDN'T BE HIS BURDEN. BUT AND I THINK WHETHER IT'S THE ZONING PASSES OR DOESN'T PASS AND IT REMAINS OUR TO I THINK ANY DEVELOPMENT FOR THAT AREA PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE A TRAFFIC STUDY. WELL, WE'RE DOING WE'RE DOING IT ALREADY. RIGHT. WE'RE DOING IT HERE. OKAY. AND FINALLY, REVISIT THE DESIGN, LOCATION AND STRUCTURE OF THE RETAINING WALL. AND I THINK YOU DID THAT RIGHT. DIDN'T YOU JUST SAY THAT? SO THAT'S SO THAT'S NOT CURRENT ON THE LEGISLATIVE REPORT THAT'S ALREADY TAKEN CARE OF. OKAY. SO THEN I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE PUT THAT IN THE RECORD AS PART OF THE ORDINANCE, THOSE CONDITIONS ONE IS THE YEAH, THE LEISURE TRAIL CONNECTION. I MEAN, THE CLOSEST LEISURE TRAIL I CAN SEE, IT'S BY THE POND. YEAH. IT'S BY OFFER BROOKS VIEW. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU I MEAN, UNLESS THERE'S GOING TO BE A LAND DONATION FROM ONE OF THE HOMEOWNERS THERE. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU MAKE A CONNECTION.

THAT'S WHAT I BELIEVE. WE ARE MINDFUL THAT AND I THINK I MAY HAVE SAID THIS IN A PREVIOUS MEETING, THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WE'RE MINDFUL THAT IT'S LIKELY THAT PEOPLE ON THE EAST SIDE ARE PROBABLY GOING TO WANT A LEISURE TRAIL GOING THROUGH THEIR SIDE YARD. WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS IF SOMEONE WANTS TO. I BELIEVE ON THE WEST SIDE THERE IS A HOA OWNED PIECE OF PARK OR OPEN SPACE ON THAT. I WAS THINKING IT WAS UP IN THE AIR MAYBE, AND THAT'S WHAT WE WERE THINKING ABOUT. AND ESPECIALLY SINCE HOA OWNED, THAT MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T WE'RE NOT FORCING THAT UPON ANYBODY.

BUT AHEAD OF THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT WE HAD A CONTACT OVER THERE, WE'D BE HAPPY TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION TO SEE IF THAT WOULD BE DESIRED. WELL, IT DOES SAY WHERE POSSIBLE. YEAH. OKAY. SO YEAH, I MEAN, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF ADJACENT PROPERTIES THAT ARE IN COLUMBUS. SO THAT ALSO COMPLICATES TRAIL CONNECTIONS A LITTLE BIT ON THE OTHER SIDE.

YEAH, YEAH. OKAY. HEY, CAN WE GO BACK A COUPLE SLIDES WHERE THEY. I'M SORRY. YOU. OH. I'M GOOD. CAN WE GO BACK A COUPLE SLIDES? NOT OFF OF THIS, BUT WHERE YOU HAD EVERYTHING

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THAT'S THE BEGINNING THERE. YEAH. GETTING CLOSER. SEE, IT MIGHT BE KIND OF THE BLACK, THE BLACK AND WHITE ONE THAT WE HAD. DIDN'T WE HAVE THAT UP THERE OR IS IT JUST IN MY LEGISLATIVE REPORT. I THINK IT'S JUST GO GO UP ONE. I SEE WHERE YOUR PARK IS, BUT I WANT THE ACTUAL WHERE IT SHOWS THE ACTUAL STREAM SETBACK. THERE YOU GO. AND IT'S NOT THAT ONE. THERE. YEAH. THIS ONE WILL BE BETTER. OKAY, THERE WE GO. OKAY, SO MY QUESTION. THANKS, BUDDY. MY QUESTION IS THIS IS YOUR STREAM SETBACK RIGHT HERE. RUNS ALONG. YOU KNOW YOUR POND HERE. AND IT'S REALLY CLOSE TO THIS LOT WHERE IT CONNECTS. RIGHT. AND I BELIEVE THIS IS YOUR PROPOSED PLAYGROUND RIGHT THERE. RIGHT. SO HAVING WALKED THIS AREA DURING FLOODING TIMES AND LOOKING AT IT, THERE IS A STEEP INCREASE IN VILLAGE COMING UP TO THIS POINT. AND THAT WATER ALWAYS FLOODS UP INTO THIS. AND WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT, I LIKE THE FACT THAT WE MOVED THE PLAYGROUND FROM WAY BACK HERE UP. BUT I THINK WHAT WE'RE DOING IS YOU'RE PUTTING IN A PLAYGROUND, WHICH IS PROBABLY GOING TO GET FLOODED QUITE A FEW TIMES. MAYBE WE DO A NATATORIUM. YEAH. WELL, WE ARE LOOKING FOR A SPOT FOR THAT TOO, AREN'T WE? AND UNLESS THERE'S A SPLASH ZONE THERE, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THAT'S THE MOST APPROPRIATE PLACE. I'M I'M INTERESTED IN YOUR FEEDBACK. CURTIS ECKLEBERRY, ADVANCED CIVIL DESIGN, 781 SCIENCE BOULEVARD. SO WHAT YOU WERE POINTING TO, THAT'S ACTUALLY THE THE LEISURE PATH THAT WE HAVE COMING ALONG HERE. THE, THE SETBACK IS WAY OVER HERE. WHERE'S THE PLAYGROUND? THEN WHY THE PLAYGROUND? RIGHT. IS THIS A STREAM SETBACK RIGHT THERE. IT'S COMING UP. RESERVE RIGHT THERE FOR THE SETBACK. SO HOW FAR AWAY IS IT FROM THE STREAM? SETBACK WITH THE PLAYGROUND SAYS THREE ACRES. THE WHOLE THING. SO IT'S WELL THAT THAT THAT INCLUDES EVERYTHING AROUND. YEAH. YEAH. THAT'S JUST I JUST KNOW THAT'S A HOT SPOT FOR FLOODING THAT.

AND THEN ALL ALONG, I GUESS WHERE YOUR LOTS. OF FOUR THROUGH NINE AND TEN. THAT'S ALL BIG FLOODING AND IT IT RUNS THE FLOODING RUNS SOUTH AND SOUTHWEST INTO THE DEVELOPMENT ON THAT STREET. IT JUST WENT OUT AND HAD SOME VIDEO AND EVERYTHING OF THAT AS WELL. AND SO I MEAN ANY, ANY PONDING, ANY WATER ISSUES IN THIS AREA WILL BE TAKEN CARE OF BASED ON THE DEVELOPMENT. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE THE WATER AWAY FROM THERE. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE THE WATER TO WHERE IT'S SUPPOSED TO GO. SO I'M NOT AN ENGINEER. I JUST IT SEEMS LIKE ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY, ALL THE WATER IS RUNNING TOWARDS 161 AND PICK A PLACE. MULTIPLE HOMES, I UNDERSTAND, HAVE MULTIPLE SUMP PUMPS BECAUSE UNDERNEATH THE GROUND THE WATER IS RUNNING THAT WAY TOO. WHAT TYPE OF ENGINEERING DO YOU DO TO TRY TO REVERSE WATER THAT'S ON TOP AND UNDERGROUND TO GET IT BACK TO THAT CORNER? WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING UNDERGROUND. WE'RE TAKING ALL THE SURFACE WATER AWAY FROM THOSE ISSUES OR THE ISSUE AREAS. WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH IT? LIKE HOW, I GUESS, CAN YOU MAYBE WATER ENGINEERING FOR DUMMIES FOR A MOMENT AND EXPLAIN HOW THAT HAPPENS? STORM SEWERS AND YOU'RE CONVEYING THE WATER TO THE TO THE PROBLEM PLACE. SO ANYTHING THAT'S FALLING ON THE SURFACE IS GOING INTO THE STORM SEWERS AND GETTING TO THE POND. AND THEN IT'S GETTING INTO THE STREAM CHANNEL AND YOU'RE SENDING IT BACK TO WHERE WE CURRENTLY HAVE FLOODING ISSUES. SO YEAH, BUT AT A AT A LESSER RATE THAN BECAUSE THERE ARE CITY REGULATIONS THAT THAT'S FOR THE STREAM. THE PART I WAS TALKING ABOUT IS FROM THE STREAM. IT'S NOT EVEN FROM THE DEVELOPMENT. IT'S THE STREAM THAT'S COMING UP. SO WELL, ANYWAYS, THAT'S JUST YEAH, THERE'S NO WAY THAT THAT WATER IS BACKING UP ONTO THESE PROPERTIES, NOT THOSE PROPERTIES. THE OTHER ONES, THOSE THAT'S JUST INTO THIS WHERE YOU HAVE THE PLAYGROUND. SO THAT PART. YEAH, LET ME, LET ME ASK THE QUESTION A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY. THANK YOU. TO MATT'S POINT, THERE'S EXISTING CONDITIONS THAT I THINK, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL MEMBER SHULL, WHO LIVES CLOSE BY, IS EXPERIENCED AND SOME OF THE OTHER NEIGHBORS HAVE SEEN AS WELL WHERE IN, YOU KNOW, HIGH RAIN EPISODES, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE FLOODING, WHICH, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT UNCOMMON IN NEW ALBANY AND DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENTS, BUT THAT'S THE CURRENT ENVIRONMENT AND THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING. HOW WOULD YOU

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WE'VE ENGINEERED THIS MORE THAN WE TYPICALLY WOULD AT THIS STAGE TO ANSWER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT HAVE ARISEN. BUT THERE ARE A COUPLE MORE FAIL SAFES. ONE IS FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WHERE WE PROBABLY NEED TO GET TO ABOUT A 60 TO 70% LEVEL OF ENGINEERING. AND THEN THERE'S THE FINAL ENGINEERING PERMITTING PROCESS. IF AT EITHER OF THOSE POINTS, THE CITY ENGINEER BELIEVES THAT WE HAVEN'T PROVEN THE CONCEPT HERE, THEY CAN RECOMMEND DISAPPROVAL OF THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN, OR THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS WELL WITHIN ITS RIGHTS TO DENY US, OR THE PERMIT CAN BE DENIED. SO THIS IS THE FIRST, IN MY MIND, OF THREE STAGES WHERE THIS WILL BE HEAVILY STUDIED. AND WE'VE KIND OF MET THE THRESHOLD AND THEN SOME. AT THIS POINT, WE'RE KIND OF PROVING THE CONCEPT. I THINK THE REASON EVERYBODY'S NERVOUS ABOUT THE WATER TABLE, OBVIOUSLY, IS BECAUSE WE'VE HAD WE DID GET BURNED WITH PICKETT PLACE, RIGHT? THERE WERE A LOT OF WET BASEMENTS AND A LOT OF ISSUES, AND IT'S RIGHT ON THAT SAME TOPOGRAPHY, RIGHT ALONG THE SAME STREAM. SO I THINK THE HOPE HAS TO BE THAT WE HAVE CITY ENGINEERS NOW THAT ARE VERY AWARE OF THAT, AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT IT RIGHT? THEY'RE GOING TO BE INSPECTING IT, JOE. AND YOU TELL US, ARE THEY GOING TO BE MORE AWARE AND MORE ABLE TO CATCH THAT? OOPS. SO TO THE CREDIT OF THE FORMER CITY ENGINEER, I WAS ACTUALLY IN THE ROOM WHERE HE HE CONFRONTED THE DEVELOPER ABOUT THAT PICKETT PLACE DEVELOPMENT AND CHALLENGED HIM ON IT. AND THE DEVELOPER SAID, WE HAVE ENGINEERING TECHNOLOGY TODAY THAT WILL ADDRESS THAT PROBLEM. AND IT FAILED TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEM. SO HOW DO WE HOW DO WE PROTECT OURSELVES FROM A SECOND? OOPS. YEAH. GOOD QUESTION. I MEAN, IS THERE EVER A SITUATION, I GUESS THIS MIGHT BE A PHILOSOPHICAL ONE, BUT AN ENGINEERING PERSPECTIVE WHERE PROPERTY IS NOT OR THERE MAYBE THERE'S AREAS OF A PROPERTY THAT ARE NOT SUITABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE OF WATER ISSUES. AND HOW DO WE KNOW? I MEAN, IS THERE A POSSIBILITY THAT THIS IS ONE OF THEM? ARE THERE PARTS OF THIS THAT IS ONE OF THEM? FAIR QUESTION. WELL, YEAH, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD BE A BEN QUESTION. IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED R TWO FOR RESIDENTIAL. I DON'T KNOW, I GUESS I JUST HAD A THOUGHT. I JUST HAD A THOUGHT. I THINK YOU SAID AND YOU SAID SOMETHING THAT MAYBE BRING IT TOGETHER, WHICH IS YOU SAID OUR CITY ENGINEER SAID YOU'VE GOT A PROBLEM. AND THEY SAID, NO, WE DON'T. AND IT WENT FORWARD. YOU JUST SAID, AND WE KNOW THAT IF OUR CITY ENGINEER SAYS, YOU'VE GOT A PROBLEM, WE DON'T HAVE TO ALLOW IT TO GO FORWARD EVEN IF WE APPROVE IT TODAY. CORRECT. WOULD THAT HAVE TO BE SO THAT'S THIS. THIS TIME WE DON'T DO THAT. THAT'S THAT'S THE ANSWER, RIGHT? RIGHT. WE ALLOW THIS TO MOVE FORWARD. IT IS ALWAYS SUBJECT TO THOSE PROCESSES. AND IF OUR CITY ENGINEER SAYS YOU'VE GOT A PROBLEM, IT DOESN'T GO FORWARD AND YOU GO INTO IT KNOWING THAT, I THINK IT'S TWOFOLD. YOU'VE GOT THE THE REVIEWS AT THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND THE PERMITTING STAGE. BUT I THINK IF I UNDERSTOOD WHAT YOU WERE READING BACK TO ME CORRECTLY, WE AGREED TO MEET THE CITY ENGINEER'S CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL. RIGHT. THAT'S ONE OF THE CONDITIONS RIGHT IN HERE. I WOULD EXPECT THAT FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN WILL HAVE THAT SAME CONDITION, AND THEY'LL PROBABLY MAYBE EVEN BE MORE CITY ENGINEER COMMENTS. SO YOU COULD ALSO ENFORCE IT AS A ZONING VIOLATION. AND THAT IF IT'S INCORPORATED AS A CONDITION WHICH BRINGS WITH IT DAILY FINES AND, AND MAYBE AN INJUNCTION EVENTUALLY TO FIX THE PROBLEM, BUT YOU HOPE IT DOESN'T GET THAT FAR. BUT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF STEPS ALONG THE WAY WHERE THERE CAN BE CHECKS AND BALANCES. SPEAKING OF CHECKS AND BALANCES, AND THIS MIGHT BE A QUESTION FOR STAFF. I KNOW WE REDUCED WE TOOK THIS LOT OUT BECAUSE WE HAD TWO LOTS THAT WERE KIND OF FRONTING THAT OPEN SPACE THERE. WHEN I LOOK AT THAT, HOW IS THAT NOT IT

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CAN WE GO BACK TO ONE OF THE COLOR VERSIONS? BECAUSE THE ONLY REASON, JUST SOMETHING FOR YOU TO THINK ABOUT, AARON, IS IF WE ELIMINATED THAT LOT, WHAT A BETTER PLACE FOR THE PLAYGROUND ON THAT SIDE, FARTHER AWAY FROM THE STREAM WHERE WE CONSIDER WE KEEP SEEING. IT'D BE YOU'RE BASICALLY ELIMINATING TWO LOTS IN ONE THAT YOU DID, AND THEN THIS ONE. BUT IT GIVES A NICE, BETTER OPEN SPACE MAYBE FOR THAT. THAT KEEPS IT OUT OF, YOU KNOW, POTENTIAL HARM'S WAY FROM FLOODING. IF YOU'LL RECALL, WHEN WE START. OKAY. WELL, I'M GOING TO PIGGYBACK OFF MATT WAS SAYING BECAUSE INTO CHRIS'S POINT, IF YOU'RE SAYING WE'RE GOING TO TWEAK THIS LOT, YOU KNOW, DOES THAT BACK UP TO OPEN SPACE? THAT'S A LOT. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ROTATING THIS ENTIRE PARCEL? SO IT FRONTS THE PLAYGROUND NOW? NO, NO, I THINK THIS LOT CONFIGURATION IS WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS ROTATING THIS FACADE A LITTLE BIT TO THE RIGHOU'R YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE SCREEN TO MAKE SURE THAT THE REAR OF THE HOME IS BACKING INTO THE REAR OF THE LOT, YOU HAVE A FIVE FOOT SETBACK ON EACH SIDE. HOW MUCH CAN YOU TURN IT? WELL, THAT'S A MINIMUM. THAT'S NOT A LITTLE TWO LINE.

WHAT IS IT? DO YOU KNOW, BASED ON THAT DRAWING, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF ROOM THERE. WE CAN'T FIT IT AND WE CAN'T BUILD IT, SO WE JUST DON'T. THE CITY DENIES THE PERMIT. RIGHT. I GUESS AS IT SITS WITH WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, BECAUSE I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT, THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS ADDRESSED WAS THE LOTS DON'T BACK TO OPEN SPACE, BUT I. DOES STAFF AGREE THAT THIS CURRENT ITERATION STILL DOES. BACK TO OPEN SPACE. YEAH. I MEAN, THIS TOP, THE TOP DOWN VERSION OF THIS. YEAH, CERTAINLY IT LOOKS LIKE IT BACKS ON OPEN SPACE. THESE ARE ALL CUSTOM HOMES. SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO DESIGN THOSE ELEVATIONS TO APPROPRIATELY ADDRESS THAT ISSUE. BUT POTENTIALLY YOU WOULD SHRINK THE FOOTPRINT. YEAH. AND ROTATE THE HOUSE TO THE REAR. CORRECT. IS NOT BACKING THE BOAT. THESE ARE THESE ARE MEANT TO SHOW SORT OF JUST ONE CONCEPT. EACH INDIVIDUAL HOME IS GOING TO BE EVALUATED ON ITS OWN MERITS.

AND YOU KNOW, THAT'S GOING TO BE A CONDITION. WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE WE MEET BECAUSE WE'VE MET. WE'VE PROVIDED THAT REQUIREMENT IN THE TEXT. RIGHT? RIGHT. AND WHILE WE HAVE THIS ONE, IS THIS THE STEP DOWN RETAINING WALL? YES, THAT IS REVISED. SO THERE'S LIKE A FOUR FOOT WALL THERE, STEPS DOWN. AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER THREE FOOT WALL IN THAT. YEAH. FROM 4 TO 3. AND THAT'S THE ONLY SECTION. SO IF I'M STANDING HERE ON THE PROPERTY I'M NOT SEEING A WALL. IT'S JUST A DROP OFF FROM THAT THAT ANGLE. BUT IF I'M OVER HERE I CAN SEE THE TWO STEPS LOOKING AT IT. THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S RIGHT. AND IS THAT IS THAT RETAINING POND DESIGNED TO BE CONSTANT? IS IT FLUCTUATE WITH RAIN EVENTS GREATLY OR IS IT PRETTY STATIC? YEAH. SO THE BLUE AREA RIGHT THERE THAT'S KIND OF VISUALLY SHOWN. THAT'S A NORMAL POOL. WE SHOULD BE DURING NORMAL CONDITIONS. AND THEN IN RAIN EVENTS IT WILL RISE. SO IT WILL ALWAYS HAVE WATER IN IT. SOME LEVEL OF WATER. YES. AND THEN LOT LINES AREN'T SET UNTIL WE DO FINAL PLOT. SO WE DO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF WIGGLE ROOM TO TRY AND ADJUST THE LOT LINES A LITTLE BIT TO MAKE SURE WE GET THAT HOUSE BACK IN TO AWAY FROM THE OPEN SPACE, BUT THE CONDITION REMAINS THERE. THEY CAN'T DO IT IF THEY CAN'T DO IT. SO AARON WOULD THEY WOULD THEY BE WILLING TO ELIMINATE THAT TO MAKE A PARK SPACE? I WAS ABOUT TO SAY, AS YOU'LL RECALL, WHEN WE STARTED THIS PROCESS, I DIDN'T HAVE GRAY HAIR AND I GOT ONE LOT. BUT, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE IF IT WERE THAT EASY, WE WOULD, WE WOULD DO IT. AND, YOU KNOW, I KNOW EVERYBODY THINKS DEVELOPERS MAKE ALL THIS MONEY AND THERE'S, THERE'S SOME TRUTH TO THAT, RIGHT. BUT WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT LOSING A LOT, IT'S NOT ONLY DIVIDING THE PROPERTY PRICE BY THE NUMBER OF LOTS AND SAYING, WELL, THAT'S WE GOT TO SPREAD THAT AROUND. THERE'S ALSO AN INFRASTRUCTURE COST.

AND IN THIS CASE, IT'S PRETTY SIGNIFICANT. AND WHEN YOU START DROPPING THAT DOWN AND FIGURING OUT WHAT THE MARKET'S GOING TO BEAR, YOU KNOW, WE ALREADY DID GET A PRICE REDUCTION FROM THE SELLER. IT WAS IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT FOR ALL THE REASONS I MENTIONED. THIS IS KIND OF A

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THERE'S NO WIGGLE ROOM, NO WIGGLE ROOM. THAT'S MY QUESTION. SO I KNOW WE'VE ALWAYS HAD A BIT OF A STRUGGLE WITH, YOU KNOW, THAT SORT OF THE LAST HOUSE, RIGHT. THE THE END THE END UNIT AND DEALING WITH THESE ISSUES AS TO, YOU KNOW, WHICH WHICH WAYS THE HOUSE FACING. SO I MEAN, THERE'S THERE'S THAT TO DEAL WITH AS WELL. BUT THEN, I MEAN, EVEN IN THE COMMUNITY NEXT DOOR, IN BROOKS VIEW, I MEAN, THERE'S, WHAT, FIVE HOUSES THAT BACK UP TO THE TO THE TO THE POND. I MEAN, THEY'RE BACKING UP AGAINST GREEN SPACE. AND I, I HAD A AND I DIDN'T KNOW IS THAT CONDITION, WAS THAT A REQUIREMENT BACK THEN? IS IT SOMETHING NEW? I MEAN, I I'M JUST MY GUESS IS THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS COLUMBUS, RIGHT? SO THEY DON'T CARE. I WAS GOING TO SAY IT'S WITHIN THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY. THESE NEW ALBANY CITY, THE CITY OF NEW ORLEANS. MY THOUGHT IS I'VE BEEN AROUND LONG ENOUGH THAT I THINK THAT WAS PROBABLY DONE PRIOR TO THAT BEING A HARD AND FAST, YOU KNOW, IT'S AN UNWRITTEN RULE, BUT IT'S MAYBE NOT. IT'S IN THE COMMUNITY PLAN. BUT THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS THERE'S 17, BY MY COUNT, HOMES BACKING UP TO IT. WHETHER THAT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO OR NOT, IT IS THE CONDITION. AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE COMING TO A CONDITION THERE THAT THAT IS THE NORM. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? OH, YEAH. TWO. I'LL GIVE YOU TWO. YEAH. SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THESE HOUSES, WHEN THEY SAY THEY WILL BE SIDE ENTRY FOR HOW WILL THESE FACE, WILL THEY FACE THIS WAY OR WILL THEY FACE THIS WAY? THE FRONTS OF THE HOMES WILL FACE TOWARD THIS ENTRY, RIGHT ON BOTH SIDES. THE CONDITION IS I WOULD MOST SIMILAR CONDITION I WOULD SAY IS AT OXFORD. I THINK COMMISSIONER WALLACE MAY BE PLACED. A CONDITION THAT WE'VE ADDRESSED. I BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO ENSURE THAT WE PROVIDE A LANDSCAPE TREATMENT SIMILAR OR BETTER THAN WHAT IS AT OXFORD, BUT THAT WOULD BE THE MOST ANALOGOUS CONDITION I COULD POINT YOU TO. I MEAN, DOESN'T DON'T THE TICKET PLACE THE TWO ENTRY HOMES, FACE THE ENTRY? THEY DO ENTRY HOMES. AND ACTUALLY THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION BACK THEN ABOUT TURNING THEM SO THAT THEY WOULD FACE SIDEWAYS INSTEAD OF HAVING THE REAR TO DUBLIN GRANVILLE ROAD. YEAH, IT'S LIKE A YEAH, I MEAN, JUST GOING FROM MEMORY. SO YEAH. OKAY. SORRY, MIKE, YOU HAD TWO QUESTIONS. SO IN HERE YOU TALKED ABOUT LANDSCAPING ETC. IN HERE. IS THERE A STANDARD BUFFER TYPE OF DESCRIPTION OF LANDSCAPING THAT WE WOULD INCORPORATE INTO THIS APPROVAL? SO THAT DOES PROVIDE SUFFICIENT BUFFER? YEAH. I THINK FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, RATHER THAN JUST THE HOMEOWNERS PERSPECTIVE, WE COULD LOOK AT. YEAH, THE TECH SPECIFICALLY REFERENCES THE OXFORD SUBDIVISION. LIKE AARON MENTIONED, THAT IS A PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL LANDSCAPING BUFFER, BUT WE COULD LOOK TO MAKE SURE THAT IT THAT IT MATCHES TAKING PLACE OR ANOTHER SUBDIVISION. I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT INCORPORATED IN. OKAY. AND FINAL QUESTION IS REALLY TO ADMINISTRATION AND FROM THE PERSPECTIVE WE'RE BEING ASKED TO VOTE ON WHETHER THIS IS OUR OR IPD AND I KNOW YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT VARIANCES AND THE DIFFICULTY OF VARIANCES, ETC. I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, WHAT ARE WE SAYING YES TO AND WHAT ARE WE FORGOING WITH RESPECT TO OUR TWO AND PDD BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE BEING ASKED TO VOTE. YEAH. IN ADDITION TO THE DESIGN. YEAH. I THINK THAT AS JUST KIND OF TAKING A STEP BACK AS WE AS STAFF, WE'RE WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT AND WE HAD MANY, MANY APPLICATIONS THAT HAVE COME THROUGH ON THIS SITE CONCEPT APPLICATIONS, NOT THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN FORMALIZED. AND IT WASN'T GREAT. AND THERE WERE THINGS THAT COULD BE CONCEPTUALLY DEVELOPED BECAUSE PEOPLE SAW THIS PIECE OF GROUND. IT'S STRAIGHT ZONE, AND THEY WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THEY COULD COME IN IN A STRAIGHT ZONING, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE NO FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND PLANNING COMMISSION. THEY'D HAVE TO PLOT ANY ROADS THAT WERE PUT INTO THE SUBDIVISION. BUT AS LONG AS THEY STILL MET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ZONING TEXT, THERE WAS REALLY NOT A WHOLE LOT OF DESIGN INPUT THAT WE COULD HAVE ADMINISTRATIVE INPUT. THEY MIGHT NOT GET AS MANY LOTS, BUT THEY MIGHT NOT NECESSARILY WITHOUT VARIANCES, BUT THE LOTS MIGHT NOT NECESSARILY BE CONFIGURED IN THE WAY THAT WE WOULD WANT THEM TO. AND THERE'S NOT REALLY A WHOLE LOT WITH THE STRAIGHT ZONING ALREADY IN PLACE THAT WE COULD DO. SO THEY COULD ALL BACK UP TO OPEN SPACE. THEY COULD, YOU KNOW, STRAIGHT ZONING IS JUST A ZONING CATEGORY TO WORK WITHIN. THERE ARE SOME VARIANCES THAT COULD BE REQUESTED IN ORDER TO DO A DEVELOPMENT THAT IS THAT IS BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAD SEEN THAT CAME THROUGH OUR OFFICE CONCEPTUALLY, BUT IT WOULD REQUIRE CERTAIN VARIANCES. IT'S

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RIGHT. IS THERE A IS THERE A REASON WHY THERE'S A HARDSHIP ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY WITH THE STREAM AND, YOU KNOW, WITH SOME OF THE CONDITIONS OF IT, I THINK THERE WOULD PROBABLY BE A GOOD ARGUMENT TO THAT. WHETHER OR NOT THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS WOULD AGREE WITH THAT OR NOT, AND WHETHER OR NOT THERE WOULD BE A STANDING IN ORDER TO MAKE THAT DECISION. IT WAS KIND OF A TOSS UP. SO THIS WAS REALLY THE FIRST APPLICANT THAT CAME THROUGH THAT HAD A CONCEPT THAT WAS ONE OF THE BEST THAT WE HAD SEEN. IT WAS MORE IN CHARACTER WITH WHAT WE HAD SEEN IN THE AREA, AND IT ACTUALLY REPRESENTED A PRETTY HIGH QUALITY DEVELOPMENT WITH THE CUSTOM HOME BUILDERS AND BEING ABLE TO PRESERVE SOME OF THAT SPACE AND CLUSTER THE HOMES TOGETHER, THE IP ROUTE. THE REASON IS BECAUSE IT GIVES US A LOT MORE OPPORTUNITY TO DESIGN THE ZONING TEXT, TO BE WHAT WE WANT AND TO REFLECT MORE OF THE STANDARDS IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN. I DON'T KNOW OF A DEVELOPMENT PLAN OUT THERE THAT MEETS 100% OF THE STANDARDS IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN, BUT WE TRY TO GET AS CLOSE AS WE CAN. IF WE CAN GET INTO THE 90S, I THINK WE'RE WE'RE DOING PRETTY WELL. THE OTHER PART OF AN IP THAT IS DIFFERENT IS THAT IN A PUD DEVELOPMENT, THEY HAVE TO COME BACK TO PLANNING COMMISSION. SO A PUBLIC BODY GETS ANOTHER BITE AT THE APPLE, IF YOU WILL. AND SO THEY HAVE TO SHOW THAT EVERYTHING THAT'S WITHIN THIS ZONING TEXT BECAUSE THIS IS JUST CONCEPTUAL. SO THEY'VE DONE MORE ENGINEERING THAN MOST PEOPLE AT THE ZONING STAGE I'VE SEEN DO, BUT I THINK THEY'RE TRYING TO BE RESPONSIVE TO THE QUESTIONS THAT STAFF HAS BEEN ASKING AND THAT COUNCIL'S BEEN ASKING, AND THE RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN ASKING. BUT A LOT OF THIS, UNTIL YOU REALLY START TO LAY IT OUT IN IN ENGINEERING, A LOT OF THESE QUESTIONS DON'T GET ANSWERED THAT ONE LOT. THEY'RE SAYING THEY DON'T WANT TO GET RID OF IT. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GOING TO BE PRACTICAL FOR THEM TO KEEP IT RIGHT, BECAUSE WE WON'T BE ABLE TO APPROVE A BUILDING PERMIT WITH THE ORIENTATION, AS WE'RE CURRENTLY SEEING, BECAUSE IT WILL VIOLATE THE CODE, HOWEVER, AND THEY'RE KEEPING THAT CODE STANDARD IN THERE. THEY'RE NOT SUGGESTING THAT ONE LOT GETS TO BACK THE THE OPEN SPACE.

THEY'RE SAYING THAT THE LOT WOULD HAVE TO BE RECONFIGURED SO THAT IT'S NOT BACKING OPEN SPACE. SO CAN THEY MAKE THAT WORK IN A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN? WE DON'T KNOW YET. BUT THE GREAT NEWS IS THEY HAVE TO PROVE THAT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AND IT HAS TO BE DONE IN A PUBLIC FORUM. AND THAT'S WHAT WE LIKED ABOUT THIS APPROACH. SO, YOU KNOW, IT DOES IT MEAN THAT THIS IS THE RIGHT TEXT RIGHT NOW? MAYBE NOT. THAT'S UP FOR COUNCIL TO DECIDE, BUT WE LIKE THE FACT THAT IT IS IN THE FORM OF AN IPAD, SO THAT THERE'S MULTIPLE PUBLIC MEETINGS THAT HAVE TO HAPPEN IN ORDER TO HAVE THE APPROVAL. THANK YOU. JUST IF WE GO IUD, DOES IT EVER COME BACK TO COUNCIL OR IT JUST ENDS WITH PLANNING COMMISSION? COUNCIL WILL EVENTUALLY SEE THE PLATS, WHICH IS THE ROADWAYS. BUT PLATTING IS A IS A VERY TECHNICAL EXERCISE. SO AS LONG AS THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS APPROVED AT PLANNING COMMISSION, YOU'RE JUST REALLY VERIFYING THAT THE PLAT REFLECTS WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED IN THE ZONING, THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. SO YOU CAN'T START CHANGING LINES ON A PLAT, AND YOU CAN'T START ASKING FOR THINGS ON A PLAT. AS LONG AS THEY'VE MET THE ZONING REQUIREMENTS AND THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN, THE PLAT IS MORE OF JUST A LEGAL FILING DOCUMENT THAT MEMORIALIZES THE THINGS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED. SO YOU WILL SEE THE PLAT, BUT YOU WON'T SEE IT. COUNCIL DOESN'T SEE ANYTHING ELSE AND THAT'S IN ANY ZONING PROCESS, RIGHT? LIKE, YOU KNOW, ANY PUD IN ANY PLACE. I KNOW COUNCIL'S OPPORTUNITY IS DURING THE REZONING ITSELF, AND THEN IT'S UP TO THE OTHER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT YOU APPOINT IN ORDER TO MAKE THE DECISIONS MOVING FORWARD FOR PUD. I THINK I WOULD ADD TO THAT, THOUGH, MIKE, THAT IT WILL ALSO HAVE ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC IF IT'S REMAINS R-2, BECAUSE IF THEY CHOOSE TO GO FOR THE VARIANCES, THAT STILL PUTS IT BACK IN THE COMMITTEES AS WELL. SO IF IT'S THIS APPLICANT WITH THIS PLAN, IF IT'S A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT APPLICANT THAT COMES IN WITH A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT CONCEPT, YEAH, THEY COULD DO WHATEVER.

THEY COULD SUBMIT A PLAT IN BUILDING PERMITS TOMORROW. RIGHT. AND SO THE R-2 ZONING DOES. IT'S BECAUSE IT'S STRAIGHT ZONED FOR, YOU KNOW, TWO UNITS, TWO RESIDENTIAL UNITS PER ACRE. IT DOES ALLOW SOMEBODY TO COME BACK WITH A CONCEPT THAT DOESN'T NEED VARIANCES. AND NOBODY WOULD SEE IT OTHER THAN IF THEY NEEDED TO PLOT A ROAD. BUT IF THAT PLAN DIDN'T NEED VARIANCES, IT WOULD LOOK A LOT DIFFERENT THAN THISPE MUCH BIGGER LOTS LOT FRONTAGE.

IT WOULD HAVE MUCH LESS LOT USAGE BECAUSE ONLY NINE ACRES IS DEVELOPABLE BECAUSE ONLY 90 DAYS ARE IT'S JUST IT'S YEAH, 18 UNITS OR 20 UNITS. YEAH. I MEAN, WE SAW AN APPLICATION WITH SOMEBODY WITH THOSE STORAGE TRAILERS THAT TURN INTO HOMES. NOW. I M NO,

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AND IT ALLOWS US TO GO THROUGH A LENGTHIER PUBLIC APPROVAL PROCESS AT EVERY STEP OF THE WAY. I DID HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. ARE WE DONE? OKAY. AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE MY NEIGHBORS, THE NEIGHBORS GET TO SPEAK, BUT I, I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THERE'S YOU SAID EIGHT DEVELOPABLE ACRES COUNCIL. IS THAT IS THAT RIGHT? ABOUT RIGHT. THE EIGHT DEVELOPABLE ACRES THAT'S THIS PLAN IS USING. I'M NOT SURE WE KNOW OFF THE TOP OF OUR HEAD. OKAY. FAIR TO SAY. FAIR TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, A LARGE PORTION OF THE NORTHERN SECTION OF THIS IS DEVELOPABLE. I WILL SAY, THOUGH, THAT EVERY TIME A ZONING IS APPROVED, IT'S BASED ON A DENSITY ON GROSS ACREAGE, NO MATTER WHAT THE CONDITIONS ARE. AND WE CAN GET. AND IT'S UNFAIR FOR ME TO SAY THAT AND THEN DEMAND 30% GREEN SPACE TO. RIGHT. I WILL I WILL TOTALLY ACCEPT THAT. I THINK I YOU KNOW, I ACKNOWLEDGE YOU, YOU HAVE DONE YOU'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK. YOU'VE BEEN HERE A LOT. WE'VE WE'VE BEEN HERE A LOT THIS WEEK. RIGHT. AND THERE'S DEFINITELY A NEED FOR MORE HOUSING IN NEW ALBANY. I THINK I THINK PEOPLE THE HOUSING MARKET IS ESPECIALLY SINGLE FAMILY, RIGHT.

EVERYONE WANTS TO MOVE IN HERE AND WE NEED SOME PRODUCTS. I JUST I, I WONDER IF THIS IS LIKE, WHY PUT SOMETHING THAT REPRESENTS THAT THAT IS AKIN TO ELY HOUSE, RIGHT? WHICH IS SUCH A BEAUTIFUL NEIGHBORHOOD, RIGHT? BUT IT'S NEXT TO VILLAGE CENTER, RIGHT? IT'S IN THAT POOR URBAN CENTER. WHY PUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN BETWEEN PICK A PLACE AND HAMPSTEAD THAT LOOK MUCH DIFFERENT, IN MY OPINION, THAN IN HAMPSTEAD. HAMPSTEAD. WELL, MAYBE THAT GOES TO ARCHITECTURE, I GUESS. SO I WOULD SAY IS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE NOT EVEN GETTING TO THE LEVEL OF DENSITY THE NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND US HAVE. AND THE SAME QUESTIONS ARE PROBABLY ASKED AT THE TIME WHEN HAMPSTEAD WAS APPROVED OR PICKING HAMPSTEAD FOUR UNITS AN ACRE. I THINK IT'S 2.7. WE'RE UNDER THAT. AND SO IT SEEMS APPROPRIATE IN THE CONTEXT OF WE'RE NOT EVEN MAXIMIZING, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, 40 UNITS THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE COULD GET THE VARIANCES, WE, WE COULD GET. SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE, THE PROBLEM WITH THIS PROPERTY IS IT'S THE LAST ONE AND YOU'RE ALWAYS THE ONE THAT HAS TO DEAL WITH ALL THE ISSUES IN YOUR PROPERTY. SO YEAH, THAT'S, I GET YOU, I GET YOU. YEAH. WELL, I DON'T THINK YOU'D BE TRYING TO DEVELOP IT IF YOU DIDN'T BELIEVE YOU COULD SELL IT. RIGHT. I MEAN, WE LOOK AT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE VILLAGE CENTER WITH THE PRICE POINT OF THE HOMES RIGHT ALONG NEXT TO THE APARTMENTS. IT'S IT'S KIND OF MIND BLOWING, RIGHT? SO THESE ARE HUGE HOMES THERE. LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE GOING TO BE BEAUTIFUL, VERY EXPENSIVE, HIGH END HOMES. IF YOU THINK YOU CAN SELL THEM THERE, THEN YOU KNOW, THAT'S GREAT. IT'S NOT CERTAINLY NOT THE ONLY NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE WE HAVE HIGH DENSITY HOMES THAT ARE CLUSTERED TOGETHER PRETTY CLOSELY. RIGHT. I WILL PROBABLY HAVE QUESTIONS AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. UNDERHILL. ALL. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU FOR BEING PATIENT. HOPEFULLY YOU LEARNED A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE PROJECT AND SOME OF THE QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL ALSO MAYBE ANSWERED SOME OF YOURS.

BUT WITH THAT, IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE. I'M SURE I GOT MY MATH RIGHT HERE, SIX SPEAKER CARDS FILLED OUT, AND THERE MAY BE OTHERS THAT DECIDE THAT THEY'D ALSO LIKE TO COMMENT. BUT WITH THAT, I'LL TRY TO GO THROUGH THE LIST IN THE ORDER IN WHICH I RECEIVED THEM AND TRY TO GIVE THE NEXT PERSON UP, NEXT INDIVIDUAL ON DECK, SO TO SPEAK. AND SO WE'LL START WITH MATTHEW FRIEDMAN, FOLLOWED BY GEORGE FRIEDMAN. AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO BE RESPECTFUL OF EVERYONE'S TIME. WE SUGGESTED THAT THREE MINUTES WOULD BE A GOOD USE OF TIME UNDER OUR COUNCIL RULES, BUT ALSO JUST RESPECTING THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS HERE TONIGHT THAT WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ADDRESS COUNCIL IF YOU CAN. IF SOMEONE HAS ALREADY MADE A POINT THAT YOU'RE VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT, JUST SAY, I'M WITH MATT AND WE'LL UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S THE THAT'S THE THING THAT YOU'RE YOU CARE MOST ABOUT. SO WITH THAT, MR. FRIEDMAN, THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS MATTHEW FRIEDMAN. I LIVE AT 4048 BROOKVIEW CIRCLE, APPROXIMATELY 200FT FROM THE PROPOSED PRAIRIE HOUSE DEVELOPMENT. I APPRECIATE THE THOUGHTFUL CONSIDERATION THAT CITY COUNCIL HAS GIVEN THIS PROPOSAL OVER THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS. THE FACT THAT THIS REZONING HAS NOW BEEN TABLED TWICE TELLS US THAT COUNCIL

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THANK YOU MADAM. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. JORI FRIEDMAN AND ON DECK IS NICOLE BERG. GOOD EVENING. HI. MY NAME IS JORY FRIEDMAN AND I RESIDE AT 4848 BROOKVIEW CIRCLE. I'M A YOUNGER DRIVER, AND THIS SUMMER, ONE OF MY MAIN RESPONSIBILITIES AS A NANNY IS DRIVING YOUNG CHILDREN TO AND FROM THEIR DAILY CAMPS AND ACTIVITIES. BECAUSE OF THIS, SAFETY ON THE ROADS IS ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT TO ME. I ONLY HAVE ONE POINT TO MAKE TODAY, BUT I BELIEVE IT IS A VERY IMPORTANT ONE. TURNING LEFT OUT OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD DURING PEAK TRAFFIC HOURS, ESPECIALLY BETWEEN 3 AND 5 P.M. HAS BECOME EXTREMELY DIFFICULT AND UNSAFE. WHEN I ATTEMPT TO MAKE A LEFT TURN, THE TRAFFIC COMING FROM THE EAST IS OFTEN SO BACKED UP THAT I CANNOT SEE WHETHER THERE ARE VEHICLES APPROACHING FROM THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION. MANY TIMES I FIND MYSELF IN A POSITION WHERE I HAVE TO MAKE A DIFFICULT DECISION. DO I WAIT INDEFINITELY OR TAKE A CHANCE AND TURN, HOPING I CAN DO SO SAFELY? THIS IS ESPECIALLY CONCERNING BECAUSE MANY OF THE VEHICLES TRAVELING DOWN THIS ROAD ARE MOVING AT VERY HIGH SPEEDS. THIS ISSUE HAS CREATED A DANGEROUS SITUATION FOR RESIDENTS OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

IN FACT, MY NEIGHBOR ACROSS THE STREET HAS EXPERIENCED THREE ACCIDENTS WITHIN THE SPAN OF TWO YEARS, WHICH SHOWS JUST HOW SERIOUS THIS PROBLEM CAN BE. I STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT A TRAFFIC STUDY NEEDS TO BE DONE TO IMPROVE VISIBILITY AND SAFETY OF THIS INTERSECTION, NOT ONLY FOR DRIVERS LIKE ME, BUT FOR ALL RESIDENTS AND FAMILIES IN OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU AND THANK YOU. CERTAINLY APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING YOUR PERSPECTIVE TO THIS CONVERSATION. THANK YOU, NICOLE BERG AND ON DECK, SO TO SPEAK, IS JIM BRANT. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING NICOLE. I LIVE AT 17 PICKETT PLACE. IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, I'LL JUST SAY I AM WITH MATT. I THINK THAT IT IS AN IMPORTANT COMMITMENT TO DO THIS TRAFFIC STUDY. IDEALLY DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR. I WILL ADD A PERSONAL ANECDOTE. THIS IS IMPORTANT TO ME BECAUSE THREE YEARS AGO MY CHILD WAS ACTUALLY HIT BY A DRIVER AT THE INTERSECTION OF DUBLIN GRANVILLE ROAD AND MEAD WAY. I WILL SAY HE WAS FINE. THE BIKE WAS NOT. OUR FRIENDS AND FELLOW SIGNS SAID IT WAS NOT WORTH TRYING TO FIX THE FRAME. IT IS WORTH NOTING THAT AT THE TIME HE WAS RIDING HOME WITH HIS BABYSITTER, HE WAS DOING EVERYTHING RIGHT. HE WAS WEARING HIS HELMET. HE WAS RIDING A REGULAR BIKE, NOT AN E-BIKE. HE WAS IN THE CROSSWALK AND THEY HAD ACTIVATED THE FLASHERS. SO ACCORDING TO THE EMT WHO CALLED ME WHILE I WAS STUCK IN THE WESTBOUND LANE IN FRONT OF THE CHABAD HOUSE, HE WAS FINE. BUT THAT IS A CALL THAT I HOPE NO OTHER PARENT EVER HAS TO RECEIVE. SO THAT WAS THE POINT THAT I WANTED TO MAKE, THAT THIS IS PERSONAL, AND I APPRECIATE THAT THE COUNCIL HAS PROVEN THAT THEY CARE DEEPLY ABOUT THIS, AND THAT THEY WANT TO MAKE A DATA BASED DECISION FOR THE BENEFIT OF OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. THANKS, NICOLE. HI, MR. BRAND,

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THANKS FOR YOUR TIME AGAIN. I SPOKE ABOUT TWO MONTHS AGO. I'M GOING TO REITERATE SOME OF THOSE POINTS, BUT I WOULD RECOMMEND YOU NOT APPROVE THE REZONING AT THIS POINT. I DON'T THINK THEY'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK LAST TWO MONTHS. ALL THEY'VE DONE IS GOT RID OF ONE LOT AND PUT A PLAYGROUND THERE. THAT'S ALL IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'VE DONE TO ME. THAT'S ALL I COULD SEE THAT REALLY DONE TO THE PLAN. IT STILL HAS WAY TOO MANY LOTS. AND I THINK THE BIGGER ISSUE IS THAT IT'S NOT IT'S STILL INCONSISTENT WITH STRATEGIC PLAN FOR FOUR POINTS IN MY MIND. ONE, ORGANICALLY SHAPED STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PONDS, THE TWO RETAINING THAT POND IS NOT ORGANICALLY SHAPED WITH THE RETAINING WALLS. RETAINING WALLS ARE NOT ORGANICALLY SHAPED. I STILL THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE. IT'S A VISUAL ISSUE, BUT IT'S ALSO A SAFETY ISSUE. TWO FOUR FOOT HIGH WALLS SEPARATED BY LITTLE SLOPE. IF KIDS ARE COMING FROM BEHIND IT, THERE'S GONNA BE A PLAYGROUND THERE. KIDS ARE PLAYING ON THAT SIDE OF IT. I THINK THERE'S A HUGE SAFETY ISSUE WITH THEM FALLING DOWN DOUBLE WALLS, OR IF THEY DECIDE THEY WANT TO PLAY ON THE WALLS. I THINK THAT'S A BIG SAFETY ISSUE. IT'S ALSO NOT APPEALING, AND IT'S NOT ORGANIC EITHER. WE HAVE A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION ON, YOU KNOW, HOW SHOULD NOT FRONT ONTO SHOULD NOT BACK ONTO ROADS. SO THE LOTS ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THIS PLAN, THEY LOOK LIKE THEY FRONT ONTO OLD GRANVILLE ROAD. NOW SEMANTICS HERE SAYS THAT THE HOUSES ARE. THAT'S THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE, NOT THE BACK OF THE HOUSE. IT SURE LOOKS LIKE THEY BACK ON TO IT, BECAUSE A BIG CHUNK OF THE HOUSE IS BACKING ONTO THE ONTO THE ROAD. SO WHILE THAT MAY BE TECHNICALLY THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE, IT STILL LOOKS LIKE IT'S BACKING ON TO ME. THAT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS CAN INTERPRET THAT TERMINOLOGY HOWEVER YOU WANT TO INTERPRET IT. THAT LOOKS LIKE IT'S BACKING ON TO THE ROAD. TO ME. THIRD ONE, YOU KNOW, THE OPEN SPACES ENCOURAGED, YOU KNOW, DO WE HAVE A HALF ACRE TO FIVE ACRE OPEN SPACE IN IN THIS DEVELOPMENT, CENTRALLY LOCATED IN THIS DEVELOPMENT? I DON'T SEE IT. MAYBE YOU SEE IT, BUT I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN. YOU CAN CHOOSE TO DISREGARD YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN OR MAKE THIS PLAN SUITABLE TO THE STRATEGIC PLAN. AND THE BIGGEST ONE IN MY MIND IS THE, YOU KNOW, THE ANY PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT SHOULD HAVE ONE DWELLING PER UNIT, ONE DWELLING UNIT PER GROSS, PER ACRE. PER GROSS ACRE. THIS IS 18 ACRES WHICH SHOULD ACCOMMODATE 18 LOTS, WHICH I THINK WOULD BE A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF HOUSES FOR THIS LOT. AND INSTEAD OF 38, BUT 18 IN THAT SAME AREA, I THINK IT'D BE MUCH MORE ATTRACTIVE, MUCH MORE CONSISTENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS NEARBY, ACROSS THE STREET AND BEHIND. I THINK IT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE THE SAME, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO HAVE ALL THE ISSUES YOU HAVE WITH THE SETBACKS THAT WE HAD TO MAKE CHANGES TO, TO GET TO SQUEEZE ALL THESE LOTS IN HERE. I MEAN, WE HAVE LOTS HERE ON THE ON THE TOP OF THIS PLAN RIGHT HERE. WE HAVE SOME OF THOSE LOTS ARE ABOUT 5000FT■!S. NOW. 5000FT■!SS VERY, VERY SMALL PIECE OF LAND.

TO PUT A $2 MILLION OR A 3000 SQUARE FOOT HOME ON. SO THESE ARE VERY, VERY SMALL LOTS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BEING BUILT OUT. AND THE FACT THAT THERE'S NO SIDE SETBACKS ON SOME OF THESE LOTS IS UNTENABLE IN MY MIND. SO I THINK AND I ALSO I DID NOT GET THE EMAIL. SO IF YOU COULD INCLUDE ME IN YOUR EMAILS, I DIDN'T GET THE EMAILS I DIDN'T GET I DIDN'T GET ANY INFORMATION ABOUT THE CHANGES OF PLANS. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'M SEEING HERE TONIGHT.

WE'D LOVE TO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'VE GOT MORE CHANGES. I'D LOVE TO GET ADVANCE NOTICE.

I WENT ON THE ONLINE, DIDN'T SEE ANY CHANGES MADE. I'D LOVE TO GET ADVANCE NOTICE OF THE CHANGES SO WE CAN INTERPRET, LOOK AT THEM A LITTLE BIT BEFOREHAND, THEN SEE THEM RIGHT HERE AT THE MOMENT. I ALSO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THE IMAGES THAT THE DEVELOPER WAS SHOWING, THE CHARACTER INSPIRATION SLIDES. THERE'S NO WAY THEY CAN PUT THOSE HOUSES ON THESE LITTLE LOTS. THE CHARACTER INSPIRATION IS, IS INCONSISTENT WITH WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DEVELOP HERE. THEY CAN'T GET THOSE BIG HOUSES ON THE ON THESE LITTLE LOTS. I'D LOVE TO SEE THEM TRY TO PUT THAT ON THERE. AND THEN IF WE GO BACK A COUPLE OF MONTHS, I THINK COUNCILMAN SHULL HAD REQUESTED, WHAT WOULD THIS LOOK LIKE AS OUR TWO. I WOULD STILL LIKE TO SEE THAT. I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA. WHAT. WHAT WOULD THIS LOOK LIKE AS AN R-2 DEVELOPMENT? WE HAVEN'T SEEN THAT. I HAVEN'T SEEN IT. HAVE YOU? HAVE YOU SEEN THAT? I

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AND IN GENERAL, CAUTIOUS OPTIMISM TOWARDS THIS PLAN. YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S GOT A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE REALLY LIKE, BUT WE ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC EVERY DAY. I HAVE RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW, COMPLAINING ABOUT SPEED ALONG DUBLIN, GRANVILLE, ABOUT THE SAFETY, ABOUT HOW IT'S GOING TO WORK WITH THE BUS STOP, WITH THE TWO ENTRANCES RIGHT ACROSS FROM ONE ANOTHER. YOU KNOW, I HAVE A LOT OF CONCERN. MOTHERS WHO ARE ASKING ME, YOU KNOW, WE ALREADY HAVE ISSUES WITH THE BUS STOPS WHERE PEOPLE ALONG THAT ROAD WILL RUN RIGHT THROUGH THE STOP SIGN. AND, YOU KNOW, IF KIDS HAVE TO CROSS THE STREET THERE, IT'S ANOTHER ISSUE THAT I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE VERY WORRIED ABOUT. AND THAT'S, I THINK, THE MAIN CONCERN OF EVERYONE THAT I'VE TALKED TO IN PICKETT AND MY OWN CONCERNS. OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I ALSO JUST WANT TO THANK NOT REALLY OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT. YOU GUYS GIVE ME A LOT OF FAITH. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, LOUISE ANN MURRAY, I THINK THAT'S THE LAST SPEAKER CARD THAT I HAVE. GOOD EVENING MA'AM. HELLO. MY NAME IS LOIS ANN MURRAY AND I LIVE AT 16 PICKETT AND PREVIOUSLY AT 39 KESWICK WOODS ROAD. SO I'M USED TO LIVING IN AN AREA WITH LOTS OF TRAFFIC. MY CONCERN IS REALLY WE'RE BEHIND AS A CITY AND ADDRESSING DUBLIN GRANVILLE ROAD AND NEEDING TO TAKE ACTION, AND I THINK WE ALL WANT A BEAUTIFUL DEVELOPMENT ACROSS THE STREET. BUT WHEN YOU GO TO EXIT AND WE'RE LOOKING AT TWO NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WILL ONLY HAVE ONE ENTRANCE AND ONE EXIT, AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT A PLAN TO APPROVE THEM BEING RIGHT ACROSS FROM EACH OTHER. AND YOU SIT THERE AND YOU LOOK TO YOUR RIGHT AND TRY TO JUDGE HOW FAST A CAR IS COMING, AND THEN TO THE LEFT. AND NOW ADDING TO THAT, DID A CAR COME INTO THE EXIT AND ENTRANCE ACROSS FROM YOU? I THINK IT'S REALLY GOING TO JUST LEAD TO MORE SAFETY ISSUES FOR RESIDENTS AND CHILDREN. I LOVE WHAT THE CITY DOES AND ITS DEVELOPMENT, AND I CHALLENGE YOU TO TAKE SOME OF THE STRATEGIES THAT WE'VE HAD WITH IT TO REALLY TRAFFIC CALM THAT AREA, WHETHER IT'S A PLATFORM THAT WOULD BE BUILT UP, THAT WOULD SLOW TRAFFIC ACROSS THOSE INTERSECTIONS, CONSIDER MOVING THE ENTRANCE OF THE DEVELOPMENT TO ANOTHER SPOT. AND HONESTLY, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD MAKE IT BETTER, IF IT WOULD BE HARDER IF YOU'RE NOT TRYING TO WATCH CARS DOWN THE ROAD, WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, THOUGH, IS TRAFFIC CALMING ON THAT BEFORE WE CONTINUE TO BUILD MORE RESIDENTIAL. AND THIS IS A CITY THAT KNOWS HOW TO DO THAT. AND I LOVE THE BARRIERS THAT ARE PUT IN THE

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SO I JUST WANTED TO ADD MY VOICE TO THAT AND CHALLENGE YOU AS YOU THINK ABOUT THIS, TO ALSO COMMIT, REGARDLESS OF WHAT DESIGN YOU PUT OVER THERE, LET'S CALM DOWN THAT ROAD.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND CAN I JUST SAY THAT I, YOU KNOW, ON BEHALF OF MYSELF AND I, I THINK ALL OF US, WE, I THINK WE HAVE ALL LEARNED SOMETHING VERY IMPORTANT AS A RESULT OF THIS DEVELOPMENT. THESE 38 HOMES HAVE STARTED A DISCUSSION. I THINK WE'VE BEEN SLOW TO REACT TO 161. WE'VE BEEN HEARING IT PRETTY CONSISTENTLY. AND I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU THAT COME OUT TO TELL US THAT AND MAKE US AWARE OF THAT. THAT'S SOMETIMES THE BEST WAY FOR US TO KNOW, AND WE ARE COMMITTED TO, AND I GUESS ALREADY BEGUN THE PROCESS OF WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS TRAFFIC STUDY AND WE ARE GOING TO LOOK FOR SOLUTIONS TOTALLY SEPARATE AND APART FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT. SO I I'M GOING TO SAY THAT ON MY BEHALF. I THINK I'M COMMITTING ON BEHALF OF ALL OF US, WE ALREADY STARTED THAT. WE ARE GOING TO LOOK FOR SOLUTIONS TO MAKE THAT BETTER.

AND I'M SORRY, WE DIDN'T REALIZE THAT IT HAD GOTTEN TO THAT POINT FOR PEOPLE THAT WERE TRYING TO GET OUT OF THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS. SO IT CAME ON QUITE QUICKLY. IT'S REALLY BEEN 6 TO 9, PROBABLY SIX, NINE MONTHS REALLY, WHERE YOU HAVE TO GIVE YOURSELF SOME EXTRA TIME TO TURN LEFT. AND I CAN'T QUITE PUT MY FINGER ON IT, BUT WE TRY TO TAKE OUR PRIDE IN GETTING AHEAD AND WE AND WE MISSED IT. AND SO WE HAVE TO. THREE JORY MENTIONED THIS DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR. 3 TO 5 P.M. IS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE. YEAH, IT JUST IT JUST IS BECAUSE I COME UP MIDDLE HARLEM BY PRESBYTERIAN EVERY DAY TO TRY TO TURN LEFT TO GET OVER TO NORTHERN HARLEM. AND WHAT I'M SEEING IS A SOLUTION, AS MANY OF THE PEOPLE ARE TURNING INTO PRESBYTERIANS BACK PARKING LOT OFF OF HARLEM TO GO OVER TO THE LIGHT THAT COMES OUT, WHICH IS NOT THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO DO THAT. BUT THAT'S WHAT I'VE NOTICED PEOPLE DO JUST TO ALLEVIATE TRYING THEIR SAFETY TO GO LEFT OFF OF HARLEM AGAINST ALL THAT TRAFFIC. THEY JUST AS SOON RISK IT AND GO RIGHT THROUGH THE PARKING LOT AND COME UP TO THE LIGHT AND HAVE A SAFE TURN LEFT. AND SO THE QUESTION IS THIS TRAFFIC STUDY. THANK YOU, COUNCIL, FOR YOUR SUPPORT TO DO THAT TRAFFIC STUDY. I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY HELPFUL IF IT IF IT TELLS US THAT THIS PROJECT WILL TAKE US OVER THE EDGE, OR IF THEY TELL US THAT THERE ARE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS THAT NEED TO BE MADE THAT AREN'T CURRENTLY CONTEMPLATED, DO WE WANT TO GIVE OURSELVES TIME TO BE ABLE TO REACT TO THAT, KNOWING THAT THERE IS A DEVELOPER WHO WANTS TO PUT A HIGH QUALITY PRODUCT IN, WE WANT TO ALLOW THAT TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. IS IT BETTER TO WAIT TO SEE WHAT'S POSSIBLE AND WORKABLE AS A LONG TERM SOLUTION? RIGHT. I MEAN, PERSONALLY, I THINK WE'RE LOOKING AT TWO COMPLETELY SEPARATE ISSUES THAT THE MAIN CONCERN THAT I THINK A LOT OF COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE IN THIS PUBLIC HAS IS DUBLIN, GRANVILLE ROAD TRAFFIC, AS WE'VE DISCUSSED TODAY, THE WAY THAT THAT SITE IS ZONED TODAY, SOMEBODY COULD SUBMIT AN APPLICATION AND BUILD SOME NUMBER OF HOMES. THAT'S MAYBE NOT 38, BUT A CLOSE TO THAT. TOMORROW THEY COULD SUBMIT PERMITS AND THE TRAFFIC STUDY WOULD STILL BE SO AND WE'RE STILL WORKING ON TRAFFIC STUDY. SO I THINK WE'RE YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'RE ATTACKING IT WITH. AND CHRIS, WHEN IS THE PRESENTATION ON THE TRAFFIC STUDY? IS THAT TONIGHT OR. STEVE, MAYBE I CAN GIVE A QUICK UPDATE. I DON'T HAVE A PRESENTATION. BUT SINCE THE INTRODUCTION OF THIS REZONING ON MAY 5TH, THE CITY TRAFFIC ENGINEER PROACTIVELY DID TRAFFIC COUNTS ALONG DUBLIN GRANVILLE ROAD, SO WE WOULD HAVE THOSE TRAFFIC NUMBERS WHILE SCHOOL WAS STILL IN SESSION. SINCE THEN, THEY'VE BEGUN THAT DATA ANALYSIS AND ARE CURRENTLY WORKING ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THAT TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY THAT WILL BE DELIVERED AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER. IN THE MEANTIME, AS WELL, CITY, THE CITY STAFF AND THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER HAVE LOOKED AT THE TIMING OF HARLEM ROAD AND DUBLIN GRANVILLE ROAD. WE'VE MADE SEVERAL TWEAKS TO THAT INTERSECTION. ON THE TIMING TO HELP TRAFFIC ALONG DUBLIN GRANVILLE ROAD, AND WE'RE CONTINUING TO MONITOR

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CORRECT. THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. AND WE CAN MODEL IT ON THE BEST INFORMATION WE HAVE, WHICH IS THE SUBDIVISION AND KNOWN GROWTH IN THE AREA. BUT THAT'S WHY THE CITY TRAFFIC ENGINEER INCLUDES THAT BACKGROUND GROWTH MODEL. SO I BELIEVE IT'S A THEY ASSUME THAT THERE'S AN ANNUAL 3% INCREASE IN TRAFFIC. AND THAT'S JUST BASED ON EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENING IN AND AROUND THE ENTIRE NEW ALBANY REGION. SO THERE'S JUST ASSUMED, YEAH, WHAT'S HAPPENING IN COLUMBUS TO THE WEST IS GENERATING SOME THROUGH TRAFFIC. AND ALSO WHAT'S HAPPENING TO THE EAST OF THIS SUBDIVISION, SUBDIVISION CORRIDOR IS ALSO ADDING TRAFFIC TO THE STREET. YEAH. AND THE THAT 3% GROWTH THAT'S BASED ON MOORE'S STANDARDS. SO MORE SEE THE REGIONAL PLANNING ADMINISTRATOR PLANNING COMMISSION, THAT'S THEIR STANDARD THAT I THINK ALL TRAFFIC ENGINEERS AND MUNICIPALITIES USE IN CENTRAL OHIO. HEY, JOHN, JUST A QUESTION FOR YOU. PUTTING YOUR SCHOOL HAT ON AGAIN. IF YOU DIDN'T PUT IT AWAY TOO QUICKLY WITH THE RESURRECTION, YOU KNOW, CONSTRUCTION GOING ON. AND I KNOW THAT WAS A BIG PARKING LOT BEFORE FOR KIDS IS DO YOU KNOW IF THAT'S STILL GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN SCHOOL STARTS, OR ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE TO BE REDIRECTED SOMEWHERE ELSE? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. AND I WOULD PROBABLY I WOULD DEFER TO THE SCHOOL ON THIS FOR THE FINAL ANSWER. BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE HAVE BEEN ONGOING NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE RESURRECTION ABOUT UTILIZING THE NEW SPACES AND THE NEW PARKING LOT FOR STUDENTS. THAT'S BEEN A HUGE HELP TO THE DISTRICT. AND, YOU KNOW, THE DISTRICT HAS PAID THE CHURCH FOR THE USAGE OF SOME OF THOSE SPACES IN THEIR PARKING LOT. BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT THE CHURCH IS EXPECTING TO BE DOING A LOT MORE ACTIVITIES WITH THE NEW CENTER THAT THEY HAVE. AND SO I THINK THERE'S THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSION BACK AND FORTH ABOUT TO WHAT LEVEL OF ACCESS OUR STUDENTS CONTINUE TO HAVE. AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT, BEFORE I LEFT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WAS TALKING ABOUT, WE SHOULD PROBABLY CHECK CHECK WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S STILL AN OPTION. OKAY. AND I ONLY ASKED THAT QUESTION JUST BECAUSE THE PEAK TIMES REALLY WAS IMPACTED BY THOSE PARKING THERE AND COMING OUT ONTO ONTO DUBLIN GRANVILLE ROAD, JUST WONDERING IF THAT WAS GOING TO CONTINUE. THE SCHOOL BOARD REPRESENTATIVE OH YEAH. WELL, COME ON UP, MR. WILSON. MR. WILSON, WOULD YOU LIKE MR. WILSON? FEEL FREE? USUALLY YOU WALK RIGHT UP THERE. I THOUGHT MAYBE YOU LEFT. I DIDN'T WANT TO DEPRIVE YOU FROM A TIME HERE TO SPEAK. SO THERE ARE DISCUSSIONS, MR. WILSON, IF YOU'LL IDENTIFY YOURSELF. FOR THE RECORD. MARK WILSON, 3984.

THERE ARE DISCUSSIONS WITH RESURRECTION ABOUT CONTINUING TO USE THE PARKING. I WILL BE

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WE'VE GONE A LITTLE DROP OFF. YEAH, STILL UNDER HEARING AND VISITORS. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS COUNCIL REGARDING ORDINANCE? 014 2026. OH YEAH.

MATT EMPHASIZES, WE HAVE NEW INFORMATION ABOUT THE TRAFFIC STUDY SINCE I SPOKE THAT. YEAH, SURE. FOR THOSE WHO ARE WITH MATT THAT WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS THAT THERE IS ACADEMIC CALENDAR DATA INCORPORATED INTO THE STUDY. IT IS DEMONSTRABLY DIFFERENT. THE TRAFFIC PATTERNS THAT NOW YOU CAN OFTEN DO CARTWHEELS DOWN DUBLIN GRANVILLE ROAD, NOT THAT WE'D ADVISE THAT, BUT DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR THERE ARE FIVE DISTINCT RUSH HOURS DURING THE DAY. SO WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S INCORPORATED INTO THE REPORT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. SO JUST TO GO BACK TO MY POINT, I THINK WE'RE LOOKING AT TWO. YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO EVALUATE THE MERITS OF THIS PROPOSAL. I AGREE BECAUSE I THINK THE TRAFFIC PIECE I IN MY OPINION, I DON'T THINK ANY DEVELOPMENT ON THIS ONE PARCEL WAS 38 OR 20 HOUSES IS THE TIPPING POINT FOR DUBLIN. GRANVILLE. I THINK DUBLIN GRANVILLE IS ALREADY THERE. I AGREE. SO THAT'S GOING TO BE DECIDED AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DETERMINE THAT WHEN THE TRAFFIC STUDY IS DONE IN SEPTEMBER. SO I DON'T WANT THIS PROPOSAL TO BE JUDGED NECESSARILY ON BE HELD HOSTAGE BY THIS STUDY, WHETHER WE APPROVE IT OR NOT ON ITS OWN MERITS. I FEEL BETTER ABOUT THAT. NOW. THAT SAID, NOT THAT I DON'T THINK IT IS A A REQUIREMENT FOR THIS. WOULD THE APPLICANT ENTERTAIN WAITING FOR THIS STUDY TO BE COMPLETED

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YES, I HAVE FOUR YES VOTES AND THREE NO VOTES. THE MOTION PASSES. OH, GO AHEAD. JUST TO BE CLEAR TO THE PUBLIC. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO WORK VERY COOPERATIVELY WITH THE DEVELOPER, UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE'S, YOU KNOW, GREAT CONCERN ABOUT TRAFFIC SAFETY IN IN THE COMMUNITY ON DUBLIN GRANVILLE, EITHER WITH OR WITHOUT THIS PROJECT. IT WILL CERTAINLY FOCUS STAFF AND COUNCIL'S ATTENTION ON GETTING A SOLUTION TO THAT. AT THE SAME TIME, WE'RE EVALUATING THIS PROJECT MOVING FORWARD, WHICH, AS MR. UNDERHILL POINTED OUT, THERE'S A LOT OF STEPS LEFT IN THE PROCESS. THIS JUST, AGAIN DEALS WITH ONE ISSUE REGARDING THE ZONING. SO I KNOW IN THE PAST THERE'S SOME PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED AND PEOPLE DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANT AT THAT POINT IN THE PROCESS, BUT THERE'S STILL A LOT OF WORK TO DO. THIS IS A YES TO THIS QUESTION. IT'S NOT A YES THE ENTIRE PROJECT, AND I HOPE THAT EVERYONE WALKS AWAY UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE'S A COMMITMENT FROM EVERYONE HERE ON THIS COUNCIL, THAT THIS TRAFFIC STUDY WILL BE DONE APPROPRIATELY. WE'LL CONSIDER THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC DURING PEAK TIMES AND THAT WHEN THAT DATA COMES TOGETHER, WE'RE GOING TO BE CHALLENGED TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION TO DEALING WITH THE REALITY THAT WE SEE ON THE STREETS. NO ONE WANTS TO LIVE IN A COMMUNITY THAT DOESN'T HAVE SAFE STREETS.

THAT'S KIND OF WHO WE ARE, AND WE'RE VERY PROUD OF THAT. AND THERE WILL BE A LOT OF WORK THAT GOES INTO TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU CAN TURN LEFT OUT OF YOUR COMMUNITY AND DO SO SAFELY. SO I TOO, AM WITH MATT. CAN I SAY ONE THING? YES. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO AARON. THANK YOU TO THE PUBLIC. THERE WILL BE MANY MORE, LIKE THE MAYOR SAID, MANY MORE MEETINGS ABOUT THIS FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. WE'LL HEAR ABOUT THE TRAFFIC STUDY. SO I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS A HIGH QUALITY PRODUCT. PHILOSOPHICAL DIFFERENCES ASIDE, I'M SURE WE WILL ALL WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE IT TO MAKE IT THE BEST THAT IT CAN. I TYPICALLY DON'T SPEAK AFTER, BUT I DID WANT THE COMMUNITY, THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO KNOW THAT I REMAIN OPEN TO COMMUNICATION THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS. AS THE MAYOR MENTIONED, THIS IS STEP ONE. CHRIS KNOWS HOW TO GET A HOLD OF ME. ALL THE STAFF DOES TO THE EXTENT THE ONE GENTLEMAN, I DIDN'T HAVE HIS INFORMATION. I'M HAPPY TO GET IT AND TO KEEP HIM INFORMED. SO, YOU KNOW, I JUST THAT'S AN OPEN DOOR UNTIL WE PUT A SHOVEL IN THE GROUND EVEN AFTER. SO THANK YOU. AND ONE FINAL COMMENT FROM ME. I JUST APPRECIATE THE PUBLIC COMMENT. EVERYONE WAS

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AND AGAIN, IF ANYONE HAD OTHER THINGS TO DO TONIGHT THEY WANTED TO GET TO, AND THIS WAS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING ON YOUR TIME WITH US TONIGHT. NO OFFENSE. IF YOU WANTED TO GO OUT AND ENJOY THE REST OF THE BEAUTIFUL EVENING. THAT TAKES US TO ORDINANCE. OH 20, 2026 AN ORDINANCE TO APPROVE THE FINAL PLAT FOR 17 RESIDENTIAL LOTS, TWO RESERVES AND TWO ROADS ON 4.626 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES FOR HOWLAND AT SUGAR RUN PHASE THREE, GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF NEW ALBANY CONDUIT ROAD AND CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD, AS REQUESTED BY NONA MASTER DEVELOPMENT. THIS. BLACKBURN. YES. ALL RIGHT. SO AS OUTLINED HERE IN THIS IMAGE, THIS IS GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE NEW ALBANY CONDUIT ROAD AND CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD INTERSECTION TO THE SOUTHERN END OF THE SITE, AS OUTLINED IN THE YELLOW ORANGISH COLOR. THIS PROPOSED PLOT CONSISTS OF 17 SINGLE FAMILY LOTS, TWO RESERVES AND TWO ROADS ON 4.626 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES. THE ROAD NAMES WOULD BE ACER LANE, WHICH WILL HAVE A 30 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY BLUE STEM TRACE, WHICH WILL HAVE A 50 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY, AND THERE WILL BE TWO RESERVES I AND J. THE PLOT HAS TWO FEWER RESIDENTIAL LOTS THAN SHOWN IN THE APPROVED FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN, AND OTHER THAN THE TWO FEWER LOTS, THE PLOT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED AND DOES MEET ALL CODE REQUIREMENTS. THE NEW ALBANY PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEWED AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL FOR THE FINAL PLAT APPLICATION DURING THEIR MEETING ON MAY 18TH, WITH A VOTE OF 5 TO 0, AND THE ORDINANCE MAY BE ADOPTED THIS EVENING. AND I, AS WELL AS THE APPLICANT, ARE HERE. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. JUST BECAUSE IT'S THE TOPIC DU JOUR TRAFFIC, WHAT WHAT DO WE CONTEMPLATE AS BEING THE TRAFFIC CONDITION FOR THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT? AND THE ONE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET? SO YEAH, WE TOOK A LOOK AT THAT.

THE INTERSECTION WAS. YES. YEAH. WE EVALUATED THAT AT THE TIME OF FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. AND AT THAT TIME THERE WERE NO SIGNAL IMPROVEMENTS WARRANTED AT THAT INTERSECTION. BUT THE CITY COMMITTED TO CONTINUOUSLY MONITORING THAT. AS THIS DEVELOPMENT CONTINUES TO COME ONLINE. BUT AGAIN, AT THE TIME OF DEVELOPMENT, THERE WERE NO IMPROVEMENTS ORIENTED. OKAY.

AND THEN OBVIOUSLY WITH, YOU KNOW, THE EFFORT UNDERWAY RIGHT NOW TO TRY TO SKINNY DOWN 605 NORTH AND SOUTH OF THAT CROSS INTERSECTION, HOPEFULLY THAT DOES HAVE AN IMPACT ON TRAFFIC SPEEDS. THERE'S CERTAINLY GOING TO BE AN IMPROVEMENT IN THE VISIBILITY IN THE CORRIDOR. BUT, YOU KNOW, NO, NO TRAFFIC LIGHT, NO OTHER TRAFFIC CONDITION PROPOSED BASED ON WHAT WE SAW.

RIGHT? YEP. THAT'S RIGHT. OKAY. OUR OBJECTIVE IS TO TRY TO GET THE SPEED LIMIT REDUCED TO 35 MILES AN HOUR THROUGH THE WHOLE CORRIDOR. ONCE THE IMPROVEMENTS ARE THERE. TO JOE. PROBABLY TO STAFF, THIS SAYS THAT THERE ARE TWO FEWER RESIDENTIAL LOTS THAN WHAT'S SHOWN. WHICH ONES ARE THE ONES THAT ARE REMOVED. THEYY SAID THEY'RE LOOKING FOR 17 SINGLE FAMILY LOTS, TWO RESERVED AND TWO ROADS, BUT IT SAYS THAT THERE'S TWO FEWER THAN WHAT'S SHOWN UP THERE.

YEAH. SO THE TOP IS THE PROPOSED LOT AND THIS IS THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. SO THERE'S ONE LESS ONE THERE AND THEN ONE ONE UP THERE. OKAY, I GOT YOU. THANKS. AS IT RELATES TO THE LARGER MASTER PLAN, DOES THAT PUBLIC STREET DE CONTINUE? IS THERE ANOTHER EXIT? SO IDEALLY IN THE FUTURE THERE'S NOT ANOTHER EXIT RIGHT NOW. CURRENTLY IT IS STUBBED THERE ON THAT SOUTHERN PART OF THE THE SUB AREA TO HOPEFULLY CONNECT FURTHER WEST IF POSSIBLE IN THE FUTURE THAT IS ABUTTING UP TO THE CITY OF COLUMBUS. OH, BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT ROADWAY CONNECTED IN THE FUTURE. AND WE USUALLY PUT WE'LL PUT SIGNAGE UP SO PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT IF THEY'RE GOING TO CREATE HOCKEY COURTS OR, YOU KNOW, PLAY AREAS THAT IF IT WOULD EVER CONNECT, IT WASN'T INTENDED TO BE LIKE A HARD SURFACE PLAY AREA, BUT JUST, JUST TO USE THIS AS AN EXAMPLE FROM THE LAST QUESTION, THE LAST HEARING THAT WE HAD, THIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF WHAT WAS APPROVED IN A ZONING, WHICH IS WHAT YOU SEE TO THE NORTH.

AND WHEN THEY ACTUALLY COME DOWN TO THE ENGINEERING AND GO THROUGH THE PROCESS, A LOT WAS

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FOLLOW ME THAT I'D LIKE TO SEE IT COMPARABLE TO THE INTERSECTION ACROSS THE STREET, IF THAT'S DOABLE. SEEMS LIKE THERE'S LAND AND AVAILABILITY TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YEAH, AND IT MAY LOOK MORE ATTRACTIVE AS WELL AS BEING FUNCTIONAL. THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT WITH THE DEVELOPER. OKAY. AND CHRIS, IS THE BUS STOP THERE ON SNYDER LOOP. IS IT AT THE 605 INTERSECTION OR IS IT FARTHER BACK, CLOSER TO THE ROAD? I THOUGHT IT WAS UP, WHICH I KNOW THAT TRAFFIC CALMING HELPS FOR THE BUS LOOP AND I DOUBT THERE'S THERE COULD BE KIDS THERE PICKING UP IN THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT AS WELL, BUT I GUESS IF THERE IS, THAT WOULD SUPPORT KIND OF MIKE'S POINT TOO, IS TO, FROM A SAFETY PERSPECTIVE, IF THERE ARE CHILDREN AND THAT DOES BECOME A BUS LOOP AREA, THAT DOES HELP.

THAT'S A GOOD POINT. YEAH. WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. OKAY. THANKS. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF? WHO WHO OWNS THE PROPERTY? IT IS. THAT'S THE OHIO HEALTH PROPERTY.

OKAY. THANKS. I THOUGHT THAT WAS IT. ANYBODY WE CAN CALL? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I'LL JOKING ASIDE, LET'S GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. UNLESS THERE'S SOMEONE FROM THE APPLICANT THAT WOULD LIKE TO TALK BEFORE WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. NO. ALL RIGHT. GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK REGARDING ORDINANCE OH 20 2026. HEARING NO PUBLIC COMMENT, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AGAIN. I DO WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE APPLICANT HERE TONIGHT. I'M SORRY. NO. JUST NO. I'M OKAY. I DON'T KNOW A WHOLE HECK OF A LOT, BUT DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I, I CAN TELL YOU ON A POSITIVE NOTE, I WAS TOLD LAST WEEK THAT A CONSTRUCTION LOAN FOR THE LARGER PROJECT HAS BEEN ISSUED TO THE DEVELOPER, SO THAT'S A POSITIVE. SO OKAY, FUNDING IN PLACE TO REALLY START MAKING SOME PROGRESS. SO I, AS MUCH AS ANY AS ALL OF YOU WANT TO SEE THIS THING GO, BUT I THINK WE'RE MAKING SOME PROGRESS. YEAH. I MEAN, I THINK IN THE LAST ROUND OF US APPROVING SOME OF THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, WE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF REMINDED THE DEVELOPER THAT THIS IS A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT. AND, YOU KNOW, WE'D LIKE TO HEAR MORE ABOUT THE COMMERCIAL SPACE, THE INTENTION, THE USERS I GET, THEY'RE STILL, YOU KNOW, DISCUSSIONS AND NEGOTIATIONS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, FINALIZING THOSE AGREEMENTS. BUT, YOU KNOW, I CAN TELL YOU IN THE LAST THREE WEEKS, I'VE HAD TWO CONVERSATIONS ON THOSE PARTICULAR TOPICS. SO, OKAY, IT IS IT IS BEING HEARD. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. SO JUST FOR MY EDIFICATION AND MEMORY, WE'VE APPROVED THREE OF THE FOUR RESIDENTIAL AFTER. IF THIS ORDINANCE PASSES TONIGHT. I THINK THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH.

YOU'VE DONE TWO SO FAR. SO IT WAS THIS MIDDLE SECTION HERE. AND THEN THIS SECTION ON. SO THIS WOULD BE THREE. THE BOTTOM ONE IS WHAT YOU'RE HEARING TONIGHT IS THE THIRD ONE. IS THERE A FOURTH. OKAY. IT'D BE THIS SECTION APARTMENTS. ALL RIGHT. WELL YEAH I WON'T PROMISE ANYTHING. BUT AND SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF MYSELF, I WANT TO HEAR MORE ABOUT THE COMMERCIAL AND RETAIL BEFORE I CONSIDER PROBABLY ANYTHING ELSE. SO JUST PASS THAT ALONG TO OUR FRIENDS. THAT'D BE GREAT. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION REGARDING ORDINANCE? OH 2026.

ALL RIGHT. IS THERE A MOTION ON THE ORDINANCE I MOVE FOR ADOPTION OF? OH 2026 SECOND.

SECOND WAS BRISK, IS THAT RIGHT? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. YES. COUNCILMEMBER. YES.

COUNCILMEMBER SCHULTZ. YES. COUNCILMEMBER MCCLELLAN. YES. COUNCILMEMBER. KISS. YES.

COUNCILMEMBER. DEREK. YES. MAYOR. SPALDING. YES. SEVEN. YES. VOTES ORDINANCE 20 2026 ORDINANCE 023 2026 AN ORDINANCE TO DECLARE THE IMPROVEMENT TO CERTAIN PARCELS OF REAL PROPERTY TO BE A PUBLIC PURPOSE EXEMPT 100% OF THAT IMPROVEMENT FROM REAL PROPERTY TAXATION

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COUNCIL MEMBER. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. MCCLELLAN. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. KISS. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. YES. MAYOR. YES. I HAVE SEVEN YES VOTES TO ADOPT ORDINANCE. 024 2026 AND OUR FINAL ORDINANCE OF THE EVENING UNDER SECOND READING IS ORDINANCE. 025 2026 AN ORDINANCE TO AUTHORIZE SUBMISSION TO THE FRANKLIN COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS OF A PUBLIC PETITION FOR ANNEXATION OF 6.24, PLUS OR MINUS ACRES FROM PLAIN TOWNSHIP TO THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY. MR. MAYOR, THANK YOU. MAYOR. SO THIS LEGISLATION IS FOR THE ANNEXATION THAT WAS CONTEMPLATED IN A MAY 2024 AGREEMENT. SO BACK THEN, CITY COUNCIL AUTHORIZED THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT WITH FRANKLIN COUNTY AND PLAIN TOWNSHIP FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE ROUNDABOUT AT 605 AND WALNUT. THAT AGREEMENT INCLUDES A PROVISION THAT THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY WILL ANNEX AND THEN MAINTAIN THAT INTERSECTION, THAT ROUNDABOUTS, ONCE IT'S CONSTRUCTED. SO SINCE IT WAS FINISHED CONSTRUCTION SUBSTANTIALLY EARLIER THIS YEAR, THIS WILL BE A MUNICIPAL ANNEXATION PROCESS, WHICH STARTS WITH THE CITY. AND THEN WE'LL GO TO THE COUNTY

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MAYOR SPALDING. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. MCCLELLAN. YES. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. PERRY. YES. YES.

YES. YES. I HAVE SEVEN YES VOTES TO ADOPT ORDINANCE. 025 2027 ALL RIGHT. INTRODUCTION

[10. INTRODUCTION AND FIRST READING OF ORDINANCES]

COUNCIL APPROVED THAT ON AUGUST 5TH, 2025, AND THE CITY CODE STATES THAT IF THE PLAN IS NOT RECORDED WITHIN ONE YEAR OF THAT ADOPTION DATE, THE PLAT SHALL BECOME NULL AND VOID. THE APPLICANT IS HAS WORKED THROUGH ALL THEIR FINAL ENGINEERING PERMITS AND HAS STARTED CONSTRUCTION, AND THEY REQUEST RENEWAL OF THIS FINAL PLAT. THEY'RE MAKING SOME VERY, VERY MINOR REVISIONS TO THE LOT CONFIGURATIONS SINCE ITS ORIGINAL APPROVAL, AND THERE ARE NO OTHER SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES TO THE PLANTS OR THE PLOT ITSELF. I DID INCLUDE THE APPLICANT PROVIDED THIS EXHIBIT SHOWING THE MINOR MODIFICATIONS. IF YOU'RE SQUINTING, THAT'S BECAUSE THEY ARE VERY, VERY MINOR AND THEY ARE VERY HARD TO SEE. BUT THERE ARE SOME AREAS THAT ARE BEING GIVEN BACK AS RIGHT OF WAY HERE IN THIS AREA. THERE ARE ALSO SOME AREAS WHERE GROUND IS BEING CONVERTED BACK INTO PRIVATE PROPERTY. SO AGAIN, VERY, VERY MINOR CHANGES.

OVERALL, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. SORRY. ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE ORDINANCE. OKAY. WE'LL SEND THAT FOR SECOND READING AND PUBLIC HEARING IN OUR MEETING ON AUGUST 4TH. RIGHT NOW. ALL RIGHT. RESOLUTIONS AND PUBLIC HEARING RESOLUTION R 26, 2026,

[11. RESOLUTIONS AND PUBLIC HEARING]

IN HINDSIGHT, I'M THINKING WE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE REVERSED THE ORDER OF R 26 AND 27, BUT THAT'S JUST A MINOR THOUGHT HERE. WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY OF COLUMBUS FOR SEVERAL MONTHS. YOU MIGHT REMEMBER THAT LAST YEAR IN 2025, WE CAME TO COUNCIL WITH WITH SOME AMENDMENTS THAT WERE VERY SIMILAR TO THIS. IN FACT, THE LANGUAGE WAS ALMOST IDENTICAL.

WE WERE TRYING TO CONTINUE TO CLEAN UP SOME OF THE AREAS THAT THAT ARE BETWEEN THE BOUNDARIES OF THE CORPORATE BOUNDARIES OF THE CITY OF COLUMBUS AND THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY. SO I'LL START WITH THE AREAS TO THE SOUTH OF 161. THE THE THOMPSON ROAD PARK ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THOMPSON ROAD, JUST WEST OF 62, IS CURRENTLY WITHIN THE CITY OF COLUMBUS SERVICE AREA. SO WHAT HAPPENS IF WE GET CALLS FOR SERVICE THERE? POLICE SERVICE. THE. THE PATRONS WOULD EXPECT THAT THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY WOULD RESPOND. THEY, IN FACT, WOULD HAVE TO CONTACT THE CITY OF COLUMBUS OR THE CALL WOULD HAVE TO BE TRANSFERRED TO THE CITY OF COLUMBUS. SO IT'S A.

IT'S MORE PROXIMATE TO THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY. CHIEF JONES AND I HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT THIS, AND WE BELIEVE THAT IT'S ACTUALLY IN THE CITY'S INTEREST BECAUSE OF OUR AVAILABILITY AND

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THOSE LIGHT GREEN PARCELS THERE ARE HAD BEEN PART OF THE COLUMBUS GROWTH AREA. IT'S PRIMARILY FLOODPLAIN. SO IN ORDER TO TRY TO CLEAN UP THE BOUNDARY, WE ASKED COLUMBUS IF THEY WOULD CONSIDER TRANSITIONING THAT OVER TO THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY IN A JURISDICTION. AND THEY AGREED TO DO THAT GOING TO THE NORTH, YOU MIGHT REMEMBER THERE WAS AN OVERSIGHT. THE CITY PURCHASED 73 ACRES AT THE CORNER OF WALNUT STREET AND BETHLEHEM ROAD. WHEN WE DID THE LAST BOUNDARY ADJUSTMENT, WE ONLY CAPTURED THE EASTERNMOST PARCEL, WHICH IS CURRENTLY THE SITE OF THE FIELD HOUSE OR FUTURE FIELD HOUSE. SO THE PARCEL, THE ACCOMPANYING PARCEL TO THE WEST OF THE PROPERTY WASN'T CAPTURED IN THAT. SO WE WE, WE PICKED THAT UP AGAIN THIS TIME AROUND. AND THEN FINALLY ON THE NORTH SIDE ALONG JUST. IF YOU COULD PULL A LITTLE BIT FARTHER TO THE RIGHT, RIGHT THERE, THE AREA IN THERE IS ALSO BEING ADDED TO REFLECT OUR. POTENTIAL EXPANSION OF THE BUSINESS PARK UP ALONG THE 62 CORRIDOR. SO THESE. SO WE HAVE AN ANNEXATION AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF COLUMBUS AND THE. IN PLAIN TOWNSHIP. SO WHAT THIS LEGISLATION IS DOING IS REPLACING THE EXHIBIT. SO THE LANGUAGE IN THE ANNEXATION AGREEMENT DOESN'T CHANGE, BUT THE EXHIBIT IS BEING. WE'RE REQUESTING THIS CHANGE TO THE EXHIBIT TO REFLECT THE. THE CHANGING DESIRE FOR THE ADJUSTMENT TO JURISDICTIONAL BOUNDARIES. IN ADDITION TO THAT, IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SERVICE TO THESE PROPERTIES, WE HAVE TO AMEND THE EXHIBITS TO RESOLUTION R 27, 2026 AND THAT RESOLUTION MAKES THE BOUNDARY ADJUSTMENT. IT INCORPORATES THE MODIFIED ADJUSTMENT THAT YOU SEE HERE. IN ADDITION TO MODIFYING THE SERVICE AREA MAP SO THAT WE COULD PROVIDE WATER AND SEWER SERVICE TO THOSE AREAS. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. JOE. I'VE GOT ONE FOR YOU. SURE. SO I UNDERSTAND THAT AREA MAKES SENSE TO ME. AND I UNDERSTAND THIS. WHEN WE COME TO YOU, THIS RESOLUTION IS LOOKING TO TAKE THIS INTO NEW ALBANY AND THIS INTO NEW ALBANY.

MAYBE THAT LITTLE DOT THERE, I'M NOT SURE. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? THAT'S CORRECT.

ALL RIGHT. THIS IS THOMPSON PARK, CORRECT? YES, BASICALLY. SO WHAT WE'RE WHAT WE'RE REALLY DOING HERE AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S HERE IS THAT IS THAT'S SINGLE FAMILY HOME FLOODPLAIN.

THERE'S A LOT. IT'S OKAY. SO I, I GUESS THEN WHAT WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO END UP DOING THEN IS DOES THAT HELP SIMPLIFY? YOU KNOW, THE PARKS SYSTEM THEN BY US TAKING OVER. NOW, I DO KNOW THAT THAT IS A HIGH CRIME AREA AS WELL, THAT WE WOULD BE TAKING OVER RESPONSIBILITY. I HAVEN'T HEARD AS MUCH LATELY, WHICH IS GOOD, BUT I KNOW THEY'VE HAD TO INSTALL, YOU KNOW, A GATE AND ALL THAT. I'M ASSUMING THAT THAT WOULD THEN HAVE IF WE DON'T CURRENTLY, WE'D HAVE ACCESS TO ALL OF THAT. IF THIS COMES OVER, CHIEF, I DON'T KNOW IF WE CURRENTLY DO AS WELL. NO WE DON'T. WE DON'T CURRENTLY DO IT IN THE CITY OF COLUMBUS. BUT ONCE THAT WOULD CHANGE OVER, WE WOULD HAVE THAT. AND WE'RE GENERALLY IN THAT AREA QUITE A BIT. SO YEAH, IT WOULD BE. AND IT WOULD BE A LOT EASIER FOR US TO SERVICE IT AND PROBABLY RESPONSE I'M GOING TO BE A LOT BETTER THAN IT IS CURRENTLY. OKAY. AND THAT'S, I THINK WITH, WITH MORE FREQUENT PATROLS, HOPEFULLY WE COULD HAVE A POSITIVE INFLUENCE ON. YEAH, THAT PART I LIKE THAT'S I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY. AND THEN ALSO, JOE, THIS MIGHT BE A WISH LIST, BUT IF WE DO TAKE THAT OVER, SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS NOW AND WE'RE IN DISCUSSIONS WITH COLUMBUS ON DOING THIS, IS THERE A POSSIBILITY TO TALK ABOUT EXTENDING THAT PATH UP TO 161? ACTUALLY, THAT DISCUSSION HAS BEEN OFF AND ON FOR PROBABLY ABOUT 15 YEARS. YEAH. COLUMBUS DOESN'T HAVE ANY INTEREST IN PARTING WITH THAT. IS IS I MEAN, WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT SOME ASPHALT AND IT COULD EVEN BE FIVE FEET WIDE JUST GOING STRAIGHT UP THERE. I KNOW I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THE ENGINEERING BECAUSE I KNOW IT RUNS UNDER THE POWER LINES. AND THERE'S SOME AREAS THAT TECHNICALLY THERE IS A PATH. NOW IT JUST IT GOES UP TO THE IT GOES TO

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AND WE ARE IN THE QUEUE FOR FUTURE FUNDING FOR A TRAIL THAT WOULD CONNECT FROM THOMPSON PARK THROUGH THE DUBLIN GRANVILLE ROAD. THAT WOULD BE AWESOME BECAUSE I KNOW YOU KNOW THOSE NEIGHBORS. THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IS WITHIN OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND THAT WOULD PROVIDE A SAFER WAY FOR THEM TO GET TO 161 SINCE THEY HAVEN'T CONNECTED, UNLESS THAT'S PART OF THAT GRANT PROGRAM, TO ACTUALLY CONNECT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AT THE ROUNDABOUT TO TAYLOR. SO THE THERE'S 2 OR 3 PARTS TO IT. STEVE COULD GET INTO THE DETAILS MORE, BUT ONE COMPONENT HAD THE TRAIL CONNECTION EXTENDED FROM THE NEW ALBANY CORPORATE LIMITS OVER TO THE ROUNDABOUT BY THE TARGET SHOPPING CENTER. AND THERE WAS THE SOUTHERN LEG, WHICH WOULD CONNECT IT TO THOMPSON ROAD. AND IF I REMEMBER, THERE WAS A THIRD LEG.

STEVE, DID YOU HELP ME OUT WITH THIS? THAT EXTENDED TO THE NORTH, POSSIBLY ALONG ALONG THE CREEK. THAT'S RIGHT. IT'S FROM WHERE THE TRAIL TERMINATES AT THAT SUBDIVISION UP TO DUBLIN GRANVILLE ROAD. IT WILL FILL IN THAT GAP ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF DUBLIN, GRANVILLE ROAD FROM THE ROUNDABOUTS TO GREENSWARD. AND I THINK THAT'S THE. THE EXTENT WOULD ALSO INCLUDE A CROSSING.

PEDESTRIAN CROSSING. YEAH. ON DUBLIN GRANVILLE ROAD AS WELL. WE ALSO HAVE MONEY IN THE QUEUE I THINK IN IN FIVE YEARS TIME TO START DOING SOME PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING WORK FOR A PEDESTRIAN OVERPASS ON 161 AS WELL AS PART OF THAT LINK US FUNDING. OKAY. YEAH, I KNOW THAT'S NOT PART OF THE LEGISLATION, BUT I THOUGHT SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT AREA, WE'RE LOOKING AT TAKING IT OVER. IT MIGHT HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY THERE. SO GOOD. IN ADDITION TO THE THOMPSON PARK JIN, COULD YOU POINT TO THAT LITTLE KIND OF SHADOW PIECE THAT'S JUST NORTH OF OR IT'S JUST TO THE EAST OF THE THOMPSON PARK? SO THERE'S A SEPARATE, VERY THIN PARCEL THERE THAT'S ACTUALLY PART OF THE GOLF COURSE. YEAH. SO RATHER THAN HAVE THAT LITTLE PENINSULA STICK DOWN THERE, WE'VE ADDED THAT AS WELL. SO IT'S THOMPSON PARK PLUS THAT COUNTRY CLUB GOLF COURSE PIECE TO TRY TO SQUARE THAT OFF. I SEE THAT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANKS, JOE. THIS IS JUST FOR FOR CLARITY'S SAKE, THE LIGHT BLUE AREA, THE COLUMBUS EXPANSION AREA. A HOW MUCH OF THAT IS THE METRO PARK? ABOUT 1200 ACRES. SO I WOULD SAY PROBABLY ABOUT. 40%. OKAY, JUST A ROUGH GUESS. I COULD GET YOU A MORE FIRM NUMBER, BUT I'M GOING TO GUESS ABOUT 40%. OKAY. I'M JUST THINKING, I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT IT FROM THEIR ABILITY TO KIND OF GO IN AND ABOVE, BECAUSE THAT'S PROBABLY MORE THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THAT LIGHT BLUE. YEAH. THERE. SO THE FARTHER WEST YOU GO, THEY DO CREEP UP. SO THERE ARE. THERE ARE UTILITY AREAS THERE ALONG. I THINK THAT'S IS THAT ALL I THINK? WAS IT. YEAH. SO THERE'S SOME OTHER THERE ARE OTHER IMPEDIMENTS TO RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT UP IN THAT AREA. IN ADDITION TO THE SPACE THAT WE'VE CARVED OUT FOR METRO PARK. OKAY. AND THEN OF COURSE, THE, YOU KNOW, THE JPD PROPERTY, WHICH IS ROUGHLY 100 ACRES. OKAY, THANKS. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON RESOLUTION R 26? OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC LIKE REGARDING RESOLUTION R 26 2026. RIGHT.

SEEING NONE. PUBLIC COMMENT. WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AND I WILL MOVE THE ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION R 26, 2026 SECOND. THE SPALDING YES. COUNCILMEMBER SCHULTZ YES. COUNCIL MEMBER.

WILTROUT. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. MCCLELLAN. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. DETRICK.

YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. YES. SEVEN. YES. VOTES TO ADOPT RESOLUTION R 26, 2026. RESOLUTION R 27, 2026. A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MODIFICATION OF THE SERVICE AREA BOUNDARY MAP IS SET FORTH

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COUNCILMEMBER. YES. COUNCILMEMBER SCHULTZ YES. COUNCILMEMBER WILTROUT. YES.

MAYOR. SPALDING. YES. COUNCILMEMBER. BRISK. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. DETRICK. YES. I HAVE SEVEN YES. VOTES TO ADOPT RESOLUTION R 27, 2026 RESOLUTION R 28, 2026 A RESOLUTION TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH FLINT LAND ENTERPRISES, LLC RELATED TO THE TEMPORARY SUPPLY OF GRAYWATER. MR. MAYOR, THANK YOU. SO THIS IS AN MOU. WE'RE REGARDING A PROPERTY MORE COMMONLY KNOWN AS FLINT GRID.

SO FLINT GRID IS CURRENTLY DEVELOPING THE PROPERTY IN LICKING COUNTY THAT IS OUTSIDE THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY. THEY HAVE NOT ANNEXED YET THIS MOU. BASICALLY CONTEMPLATES AND LETS FLINT GRID KNOW THAT EVENTUALLY, IF THE CITY DOES DECIDE TO DO AWAY WITH ITS GREYWATER SYSTEM, THAT AT THAT TIME THEY WILL HAVE TO ANNEX AND THEN TIE INTO THE MAIN WATER SOURCE LOOKING FLINT GRID IS CURRENTLY DEVELOPING AGAIN OUTSIDE OF THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY, SO THEY DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO PERMANENT WATER. ADDITIONALLY, THEY DON'T NEED ANY. IT BASICALLY FUNCTIONS AS A SUBSTATION, SO THERE'S NO PEOPLE THERE. THERE'S NO RUNNING WATER NECESSARY. SO THIS ALLOWS THEM TO MEET THE OBLIGATIONS IN THE BUSINESS PARK TO PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES AND SUPPORT THE BUSINESS PARK BY TAPPING INTO THE GRAY WATER SYSTEM. IF AND WHEN THAT FLINT GRID DOES ANNEX INTO THE CITY. THIS MOU PROVIDES THAT POINT GRID HAS TO PAY FOR ALL THE TAP FEES FOR BOTH GREYWATER AND THE PERMANENT WATER SYSTEM, AND OUTLINES TIMELINES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. AND JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THE GRAY WATER SYSTEM IS FOR FIRE SUPPRESSION ONLY. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL TO STAFF REGARDING THE RESOLUTION? THIS. AM I READING THIS RIGHT? WE'RE LOOKING AT THE NORTH SMITH MILLS ROAD. IS THAT WHERE THIS IS LOCATED OR COVERING. THAT'S CORRECT. ALL RIGHT. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC LIKE TO SPEAK REGARDING RESOLUTION R 28, 2026. SEEING NO PUBLIC COMMENT, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE A MOTION ON THE RESOLUTION I MOVE FOR ADOPTION OF R 28, 2026 SECOND. COUNCIL MEMBER WILTROUT. COUNCILMEMBER. YES. COUNCILMEMBER SCHULTZ. YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER. MCCLELLAN. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. KISS. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. YES. MAYOR.

SPALDING YES. I HAVE SEVEN YES VOTES FOR THAT RESOLUTION. R 28, 2026 RESOLUTION R 29 2026 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AGREEMENTS WITH THE NEW ALBANY PLAIN LOCAL SCHOOL DISTRICT TO LEASE CITY PROPERTY FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A TRANSPORTATION FACILITY AND TO ACQUIRE SCHOOL DISTRICT PROPERTY FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF PARKLAND. THANK YOU. SO THIS THOUGH THIS AGREEMENT IS, I WOULD SAY, PARTIALLY COMPLETE WHAT IT'S LACKING RIGHT NOW, WHAT WOULD TYPICALLY BE AN ATTACHMENT TO THIS TO THE. LEASE AGREEMENT IS A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH THE NEW ALBANY COMPANY AND WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. SUPERINTENDENT SAWYERS AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR SEVERAL MONTHS, AND WITH HIS IMMINENT DEPARTURE, WE WANTED TO TRY TO GET THIS COMPONENT OF THIS OF THIS AGREEMENT COMPLETED BEFORE HE LEFT. BASICALLY, WHAT THIS WITH THIS LEASE IS, IS PROVIDING FOR IS THE LEASE OF APPROXIMATELY EIGHT ACRES, GIVE OR TAKE, THAT WILL BE DETERMINED AT A LATER DATE AS THE SITE PLAN FOR THE

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AGAIN, WE THOUGHT THAT BECAUSE OF THE PROGRESS THAT WE HAD MADE UP UNTIL THIS POINT, IT MADE SENSE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PARTICULAR PART OF THE AGREEMENT. WHAT WE COULD DO.

COUNCILMAN SHULL AND I MET THIS THIS MORNING. AND JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING TURNS OUT IS TURNS OUT APPROPRIATELY, WE SUGGESTED THAT WE TALKED ABOUT ADDING LANGUAGE TO THE LEASE THAT SAYS THAT THE LEASE WILL ONLY BECOME EFFECTIVE UPON THE COMPLETION OF THE MOU. SO WE WOULD COMMIT TO ADDING THAT TO THE LEASE. I LIKE THAT, I'M JUST TRYING TO REMEMBER JUST THE LAND THAT WAS DONATED FROM AWS. SO THE. SO THERE'S. YES, THE 20 ACRES WAS DONATED BY AWS. ALL RIGHT. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OF STAFF REGARDING THE RESOLUTION? OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC LIKE TO SPEAK REGARDING RESOLUTION R 29, 2026? MR. WILSON, SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER. IS THAT ON I DON'T OH, WAIT. OH, THE BATTERY. I THINK THE BATTERY DIED. IT'S YOUR ELECTRIC PERSONALITY. JUST COME STAND UP HERE. I WAS GOING TO ASK FOR MORE IN THE LEASE MONIES FROM THE DISTRICT, BUT NOW I'M TERRIFIED. SO I'M NOT GOING TO ASK THAT ANYMORE. IT'S GOT TO BE LESS THAN PARKING. I THOUGHT 150,000 SOUNDED GOOD TO ME. YEAH, ANYTHING MORE THAN DOLLAR. HE'S COMING ACROSS THAT YOU'RE SUPPLEMENTAL CONTRACTS.

WE'RE ASKING FOR TEN. KC WE ASKED FOR $10. HEY, NOTICE WE'RE TEASING YOU WHILE YOU CAN'T RESPOND. YES. HEY, WHILE HE'S WHILE HE WHI HE CAN'T RESPOND. JOE. WHILE WHILE HE'S GETTING READY. HAND MOTIONS. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS ALSO FOR BEN, BUT IS THERE FOR THIS RESOLUTION TO PASS AND TO INCLUDE WHAT YOU HAD JUST SAID ABOUT THE MOU. IS THERE LANGUAGE WE SHOULD ADD TO THIS RESOLUTION TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S INCLUDED, AND THAT IT'S A SEPARATE ONE THAT THAT'S ADDED TO THE LEASE BEFORE WE APPROVE THE LEASE? HOW DOES THAT WORK? I THINK I WOULD I WOULD SUGGEST ADDING A PROVISION IN THERE THAT SAYS AND ADDING LANGUAGE TO LEASE, REQUIRING THE AGREEMENT, ENACTMENT, EXECUTION OF THAT MOU, MAKING THE THE LEASE. EFFECTIVE. YEAH. THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR THE CITY'S SUPPORT. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TALK TONIGHT ABOUT TRAFFIC. IT'S PARTICULARLY DIFFICULT FOR OUR BUSSES TO TURN OUT OF THAT EXISTING TRANSPORTATION CENTER.

IT'S PROBABLY CREATES SOME SAFETY ISSUES FOR THEM AND FOR OTHER PEOPLE ON THAT ROAD. SO AND FROM A, YOU KNOW, A VISUAL PERSPECTIVE, USING THAT SPACE IN A MORE OF A PARKLAND LIKE WAY WILL BE AN IMPROVEMENT. BUT MOSTLY I WANT TO JUST SAY THANK YOU TO THE CITY FOR WORKING

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I, I, THE ONLY THING I WOULD ADD TO WHAT WHAT MARK HAS SAID IS YOU ALL WILL PROBABLY RECALL THIS, THIS, THIS PROCESS THAT THE CITY AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAVE BEEN GOING THROUGH. I THINK THIS WOULD NOW BE THE THIRD SITE FOR A PROPOSED TRANSPORTATION CENTER.

ORIGINALLY, WE WERE GOING TO DO THE LOCATION AT 605 AND AND THE ALBANY ROAD. THAT DIDN'T WORK.

THERE WERE SOME OTHER PLACES THAT WE LOOKED AT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. YOU KNOW, AT ONE POINT FELT THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MAKE THIS, THIS WORK. BUT WITH THE GROWTH IN OUR DISTRICT AND THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL BUSSES, I THINK THIS BECAME A DIFFICULT LOCATION. SO IT'S REALLY, AGAIN, ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THE PARTNERSHIP AS, AS MARK MENTIONED, THAT WE'VE THAT WE HAVE BETWEEN THE, THE, THE CITY AND THE DISTRICT AND OUR OTHER COMMUNITY PARTNERS TO FIND WAYS TO BENEFIT EVERYONE. AND THIS IS ANOTHER. YEAH, IT'S A GOOD RESULT. MAYBE WE CAN HAVE ELECTRIC BUSSES SOMEDAY TOO. GAS WON'T EVEN BE AN ISSUE.

YEAH. AND I, I GUESS I WOULD SAY FINALLY, WITH MICHAEL'S TENURE AS OUR SUPERINTENDENT WINDING DOWN THIS WEEK, CERTAINLY APPRECIATE ALL THE SUPPORT THAT JOE HAS PROVIDED HIM. I KNOW THAT MICHAEL VIEWS HIM AS A CLOSE COLLEAGUE AND COLLABORATOR, AND WHENEVER JOE'S NAME IS SPOKEN IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICES, IT'S ALWAYS WITH THE HIGHEST REGARD AND GRATITUDE. SO WE'LL MISS MICHAEL. DOCTOR FINE WILL BE ON ON BOARD SOON, AND HE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH CITY COUNCIL AND CITY HALL AS WELL. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU MARK. ALL RIGHT. SO COUNCIL MEMBER SHULL, ARE YOU GOING TO TAKE A STAB AT AN AMENDMENT? I'M GOING TO TAKE A STAB AT IT SO YOU CAN TELL ME, BEN, IF I NEED TO ADD ANYTHING ELSE. WOULD THIS BE A MOTION BEFORE YOU DO THE MOTION. CAN I MAKE ONE OTHER COMMENT ABOUT.

YEAH, IT'S IT, IT IT IS. IT'S SUCH A MINOR LITTLE THING, BUT I SAW IT ON THE IT BOTHERED ME WHEN I SAW IT ON THE, THE DISCOVER SITE LEASE AND I THOUGHT, I'M NOT GOING TO SAY ANYTHING. AND THEN I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING. AND NOW IT'S HERE TO THIS, THE NOTICE THING REALLY, I, I, I KNOW WE'RE ALL ON FRIENDLY BASIS, BUT WE SHOULD STILL DO OUR DOCUMENTS IN A WAY THAT IF THERE'S EVER FORMAL, THE NOTICE BASICALLY SAYS CERTIFIED MAIL OR OVERNIGHT MAIL CERTIFIED MAIL. THESE DAYS, ANYTIME WE DO IT FOR FORMAL LEGAL NOTICE, HALF THE TIME WE DON'T GET THE CARDS EVER BACK AND IT'S ONLY ON RECEIPT. PROOF OF RECEIPTS, OVERNIGHT MAIL YOU CAN'T DO TO A PO BOX. AND WE HAVE AS OUR ADDRESS A PO BOX. SO WE KIND OF PUT OURSELVES IN A PLACE WHERE NOTICE HAS BECOME KIND OF DIFFICULT TO GET IF WE EVER TECHNICALLY NEED TO PROVE THEM. SO THAT'S FAIR. I THINK THAT LANGUAGE IS PROBABLY BEEN CUT AND PASTED OVER A LOT OF YEARS. DECADES. THAT'S FAIR. AND I THINK WITH THIS, SOME OF THESE LEASES, WE'VE EVEN CONTEMPLATED WHO WE PUT THE NOTICE TO BECAUSE THEY GO SO FAR OUT. SO THAT'S FAIR. WE CAN WE CAN FIX THAT. YOU GOT YOU SHOULD USE A TITLE. THEY SAY TITLE RATHER THAN NAME. BUT YEAH, YEAH. NOPE. IF IT CAME TO VILLAGE HALL RATHER THAN A PO BOX, I'D FEEL BETTER ABOUT IT.

ATTENTION CITY MANAGER. THAT'S FAIR. WE CAN WE CAN MAKE THOSE CHANGES. I'M SORRY, I JUST I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING WHEN I SAW IT ON THE DISCOVERY ONE, BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS SO SMALL, AND I'LL JUST SAY SOMETHING LATER. NOW SQUEEZE AGAIN. SO, YEAH, EVERYBODY GOT THIS THING DONE. OKAY. THANK YOU. GO AHEAD. WE'VE HAPPILY TAKEN YOUR FREE LEGAL ADVICE FOR YEARS NOW, RIGHT. MUCH APPRECIATED. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND RESOLUTION R 29 2026 TO INCLUDE THAT THE APPROVAL OF THE LEASE IS CONTINGENT UPON THE APPROVAL OF THE NEW OF THE MOU BETWEEN THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY, NEW ALBANY SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THE NEW ALBANY COMPANY, SECOND. COUNCILMEMBER SCHULTZ YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER. WILTROUT. YES. MAYOR. SPALDING. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. BRISK. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. DEREK. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. KISS. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. MCCLELLAN. YES. SEVEN.

YES. VOTES TO AMEND THIS RESOLUTION. ARE WE ON OUR 29 2026 WITH THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE MOTION? AND I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION R 29 2026, AS AMENDED. SECOND.

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VOTES TO ADOPT RESOLUTION R 29, 2026, AS AMENDED. THANK YOU COUNCILMAN. I WILL BE BRINGING

[12. COUNCIL SUBCOMMITTEE REPORTS]

[13. REPORTS OF REPRESENTATIVES]

YEP. ALL RIGHT. ANY UPDATE FROM NEW ALBANY PLANNING SCHOOLS? YES. LAST NIGHT BIG SHOES TO FILL. BUT THEY APPOINTED A REPRESENTATIVE TO FILL COUNCILMEMBER MCCLELLAN'S SPOT.

JEREMY NICHOLS, AN ATTORNEY HERE IN THE COMMUNITY WHO HAS A RISING SIXTH AND NINTH GRADER.

AND THE NEXT BOARD OF EDUCATION MEETING IS THIS FRIDAY AT 8 A.M. AND IS THAT IN THE ANNEX? NORMAL, NORMAL. NORMAL. MEETING LOCATION. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. MISS.

MISS, ANY UPDATE FROM THE TOWNSHIP WAS A TOWNSHIP MEETING. A LOT OF GENERAL ADMINISTRATIVE INVOICE APPROVALS, BUT THEY DID ANNOUNCE THEY HAVE RECEIVED THE $8.5 MILLION BEING INVESTED WITH THE BONDS, AND IT IS CURRENTLY BEING INVESTED WITH THEIR MONEY MANAGER UNTIL THE MONEY IS NEEDED. OKAY, SO CASH IS ON HAND. ALL RIGHT. REPORTS OF CITY OFFICIALS. NOTHING FROM

[14. REPORTS OF CITY OFFICIALS]

[16. POLL FOR COUNCIL COMMENT]

[17. EXECUTIVE SESSION]

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SECOND. TO MAYOR SPALDING. YES. COUNCILMEMBER SCHULTZ. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. DETRICK. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. KISS. YES. COUNCILMEMBER MCAULIFFE. YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER. YES. I HAVE SEVEN YES VOTES. END THE EXECUTIVE SESSION. RESUME THE

[18. OTHER BUSINESS]

COUNCIL MEMBER. DETRICK. YES. COUNCILMEMBER. YES. COUNCILMEMBER. BRISK. YES.

MAYOR. YES. YES. VOTES TO REAPPOINT THOSE MEMBERS FOR THE MEMO, WHICH WE WILL ATTACH TO THE RECORD, AND I WILL START THE PROCEEDINGS TO OPEN UP THE RECORD FOR CLERK POSITION. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER BUSINESS FOR COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION? I MOVE THAT WE ADJOURN SECOND, AND WE ARE ADJOURNING AT

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