Aug 04, 2026 City Council

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JUST A MOMENT. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, AND WELCOME TO THE NEW ALBANY

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. CLERK MASON&-PF COUNCIL WILL TURN ON THEIR MICROPHONES. MAYOR SPALDING HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. BRISK.

HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. DETRICK HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. CHRIS HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. MCCLELLAN HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. SHAW HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER WILTROUT HERE. I HAVE SEVEN PRESENT FOR THE

[4. ACTION ON MINUTES]

[5. ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO THE AGENDA]

COUNCILMEMBER SCHULTZ. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. MCCLELLAN. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. DETRICK. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. YES. SEVEN. YES. VOTES TO AMEND THE AGENDA TO MOVE ITEM 18 TO ITEM 13 AND TO ADD THE EXECUTIVE SESSION. HEARING AND VISITORS. I DID NOT RECEIVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS, BUT WE STILL INVITE ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS COUNCIL REGARDING MATTER. THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT. YOU'D LIKE TO ADDRESS COUNCIL.

NOW'S YOUR OPPORTUNITY. SEEING NO TAKERS, WE'LL MOVE TO BOARD AND COMMISSION REPORTS. ANY

[7. BOARD/COMMISSION REPORTS]

[9. SECOND READING OF ORDINANCES AND PUBLIC HEARING]

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AND HERE WE ARE RENEWING IT ANOTHER YEAR FOR SOMETHING THAT I'M HEARING IS VERY MINOR. SO I NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENING FROM HERE FORWARD. YEAH. COUNCILMAN, THERE ARE A SERIES OF CHANGES THAT ARE GOING ON IN THE SITE RIGHT NOW, PRIMARILY IN THE SOUTHEAST CORNER, WHERE WE HAVE GONE IN AND REGRADED. WE'RE ACTUALLY WILL BE GOING IN AND TAKING OUT THE CONCRETE CURB, REPLACING THAT WITH GRANITE CURB. THERE ARE A SERIES OF COBBLES AND GRANITE PAVEMENT THAT WILL OCCUR THERE IN THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE SITE. YOU MIGHT REMEMBER THAT'S THE AREA THAT HAS MORE OF THE CLUSTER TYPE HOMES. WE ANTICIPATE PROCEEDING WITH CONSTRUCTION WITH THE GATEHOUSE, THE SOUTHERN ENTRANCE, THE BOTTOM RIGHT HAND CORNER OF THE SITE, AS SOON AS THE PLAQUE IS RECORDED WITH THE COUNTY, WHEN WE'RE DONE WITH THIS PROCESS. BUT THERE WILL BE ONGOING CONSTRUCTION IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ITSELF TO FINISH AND POLISH IT, REMOVING CURB, REPLACE IT WITH GRANITE. THE PLANTING IS ABOUT 90% COMPLETE AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE STORMWATER RETENTION BASIN. THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL, RAILING THAT'S GOING IN AROUND THE OVERLOOK AREA. YOU ASKED ABOUT THAT SEMICIRCULAR AREA THAT'S NOT FOR VEHICLES. THAT'S ACTUALLY A PEDESTRIAN OVERLOOK OVER THE POND. ALL THE WETLAND PLANTINGS WERE JUST COMPLETED. AND THE POND TO THE NORTH TO WORK ON THAT HAS NOW BEEN COMPLETED AS WELL. THE REMOVAL OF THE CATTAILS AND, PERIMETER PLANTINGS AROUND THAT AS WELL.

WE ANTICIPATE RELEASING LOTS, IN THE FALL. BUT THAT'S REALLY GOING TO BE CONTINGENT ON HOW MUCH THE FINISH WE'RE ABLE TO COMPLETE REPLACING STREET TREES AS WELL. SO THERE'S A WHOLE NOTHER LEVEL OF FINISH AND COMPLETION THAT IS UNDERWAY. SO PEOPLE ARE ASKING ME, I WOULD BE ABLE TO SAY IN GOOD FAITH THAT THERE IS A REASONABLE EXPECTATION THAT THIS FALL, LOTS WILL BEGIN TO BE FOR SALE. YES. AND THAT AM I SAFE IN SAYING THAT WE WILL NOT BE NEEDING TO RENEW YET AGAIN A YEAR FROM NOW? CORRECT. I, I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH CITY STAFF, ON ON THE PROJECT. I MAY COME BACK TO COUNCIL WITH CLARIFICATION IN THE ZONING TEXT. I DON'T KNOW IF I'M GOING TO NEED TO DO THAT OR NOT. AS WE COMPLETE SOME OF THE DESIGN OF THE HOMES, AS I MENTIONED, WE WILL BE COMING IN WITH A SEPARATE GATE HOUSE, BUT WITH CONSTRUCTION STARTING SHORTLY HERE, WE MAY BUILD FIVE UP TO TEN SPEC HOMES IN THE IN THE ENCLAVE. THERE, I'M SURE YOU REMEMBER THERE ARE A SERIES OF THINGS IN THOSE HOMES THAT ARE DIFFERENT THAN ELSEWHERE. GARAGES IN FRONT OF HOUSES, FRONT DOORS DON'T ALWAYS FACE THE ROAD. SOMETIMES THERE'LL BE A SKEW. COUNCILMAN DEREK, THERE'S ALSO BEEN A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK BEING DONE TO PROTECT THE GOLF COURSE FROM THE BACK OF THE LOTS. WE TALKED ABOUT THE LANDSCAPING AND THE PLANTING AROUND THE PERIMETER THAT MAY BE TAKEN TO ANOTHER LEVEL AND LAYER THAT MAY BIG QUESTION MARK MAY MAY NEED CLARIFICATION OR ZONING TEXT.

SO I'LL BE WORKING THROUGH THOSE THINGS OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS WITH COUNCIL.

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ALL YOU CAN SEE ARE LILY PADS ON THE POND. YEAH. THE WATER LEVEL WILL GO UP PROBABLY ANOTHER THREE FEET. IT WAS LOWER IN ORDER TO ELIMINATE THE CATTAILS. BUT WE DON'T FEED THAT WITH WATER. WE JUST LET THAT NATURALLY. WE NEED SOME RAIN. WE NEED SOME RAIN. OKAY.

SO, TOM, THE HEAD UPON GATEHOUSE. YES. IS THAT GOING TO SERVE AS A SPEC BUILDING SPEC HOME? AND IS THAT GOING TO BE ONE OF THE ONES THAT SPANS THE ROAD? YES, YES. SO AND THAT'S, I THINK STAKED ALREADY SO THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BREAK GROUND ON THAT. YEAH. VERY SOON.

YEAH. I THINK THE SANITARY LINE IS ALREADY STARTED TO GO IN. BUT WE HAVEN'T WE'VE APPLIED FOR THE FOUNDATION PERMIT. SO WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING THROUGH ALL OF THOSE, ALL THOSE ITEMS. BUT YES, THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST ONE THAT WAS BUILT THAT SPANS THE ROAD. OKAY. AND IS THERE A PRICE POINT? I KNOW THERE'S A PRETTY BIG VARIATION IN LOT SIZES, BUT DO YOU HAVE A RANGE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO MARKET THESE AT? WELL, I DON'T HAVE ANY PRICE POINTS THAT I CAN DISCUSS PUBLICLY YET. THERE IS A MOCK UP ON THE SITE CLOSE TO WHERE IT SAYS POND ROAD. AND YOU SEE THE RECTANGLE THAT WE HAVE BEEN USING TO CHOOSE DETAILS OF STONE AND COURSING AND BEAD BOARD SIDING. IT ACTUALLY HAS. SO YOU GUYS ARE AWARE IT HAS A, ARTIFICIAL CEDAR SHAKE SHINGLE, WHICH, COUNCILMAN BRICK STRUCTURE IS ALL TOO FAMILIAR WITH. SHE LIVED IN ONE OF THOSE HOUSES FOR A VERY LONG TIME. FOR MANY YEARS, FOLKS HAVE BEEN ASKING TO REPLACE THE CEDAR SHAKE SHINGLES WITH ASPHALT OR AN ARTIFICIAL FOR INSURANCE PURPOSES AND ALL KINDS OF THINGS. WE'VE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO COME UP WITH ONE. BUT THE MATERIAL THAT'S ON THAT MOCK UP ACTUALLY INCLUDES AN ARTIFICIAL CEDAR SHAKE THAT WE WILL BE APPROVING AND UTILIZING IN THE COMMUNITY. BUT THERE ARE OTHER DETAILS OF SHUTTERS AND DOOR HINGES AND THE LIKE THAT THAT SHOW UP ON, ON THE MOCK UP AS WELL. SO THAT WOULD BE THE ROOFING MATERIAL FOR ALL OF THE HOUSING UNITS. NO. OKAY. SO THE ROOFING MATERIAL IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WILL BE BOTH SLATE AND ARTIFICIAL CEDAR SHADES. THERE MAY BE SOME ASPHALT, BUT LIMITED, BUT NOT THE OLD FASHIONED ORIGINAL NATURAL CEDAR SHAKE THAT LASTS THREE YEARS. NOT, NOT ASHTON GROVE THAT BLOWS OFF WITH THE FIRST WIND. YEAH, IT IT, WHILE IT'S BEAUTIFUL, IT IS, HIGHMAINTEMAI. INSURANCE COMPANIES ARE NOW SAYING, NO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO INSURE. SO WE HAD TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. AND I THINK WE CAME UP WITH A GREAT SOLUTION. OKAY. IS THAT SOLUTION GOING TO BE, INCLUDED INTO THE HOA AS ONE OF THE. YES, SOLUTIONS FOR ANYONE THAT NEEDS IT. OKAY. FOR GROVE ALL THE HOMES ON OGDEN WOODS. OKAY. AND ALL THE OTHER HOMES THAT HAVE CEDAR SHAKE. OKAY. THAT'S GOOD. THAT'S GOOD NEWS. ARE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF OR THE APPLICANT? ALL RIGHT, THEN I'D LIKE TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

WOULD ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC LIKE TO SPEAK REGARDING ORDINANCE? 027 2026. SEEING NO PUBLIC COMMENT, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MOVE FOR THE ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE. 027 2026 SECOND. IS THAT COUNCILMEMBER SCHULTZ? YES. THANK YOU, MAYOR SPALDING. YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER. SCHULTZ. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. DARBY. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. MCCLELLAN. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. YES. SEVEN. YES. VOTES TO ADOPT ORDINANCE 027 2026 INTRODUCTION AND FIRST READING ORDINANCES. WE HAVE NONE ON TONIGHT'S

[11. RESOLUTIONS AND PUBLIC HEARING]

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FROM THE PACKAGE WE STARTED BACK IN, I BELIEVE IT WAS 2022. THIS PROJECT WILL RECONSTRUCT THE REMAINING SECTION OF BEACH ROAD BETWEEN JUG STREET AND SMITH'S MILL ROAD SOUTH. THIS RESOLUTION IS SIMPLY AN INTENT TO APPROPRIATE REAL PROPERTY AND EASEMENTS FOR THIS PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT. IT DOES NOT AUTHORIZE THE CITY TO ACQUIRE ANY PROPERTY INTEREST TONIGHT, AS IT DOES NOT AUTHORIZE US TO APPROPRIATE IF NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER WERE UNSUCCESSFUL, COUNCIL WOULD HAVE TO CONSIDER SEPARATE LEGISLATION BEFORE ANY APPROPRIATION COULD MOVE FORWARD. TONIGHT'S LEGISLATION INVOLVES SIX PROPERTY OWNERS AND EIGHT PARCELS. THIS IS THE SAME PROCESS WE'VE USED OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS AS WE'VE BUILT OUT THE ROAD NETWORK IN THE BUSINESS PARK. DURING THAT TIME, WE'VE APPROVED THE INTENT TO APPROPRIATE FOR ROUGHLY 200 PARCELS. OF THOSE, WE'VE ONLY COME BACK TO COUNCIL ABOUT SEVEN TIMES TO REQUEST THE AUTHORITY TO ACTUALLY APPROPRIATE THE PROPERTY. IN EVERY ONE OF THOSE CASES, WE ULTIMATELY, WE REACHED NEGOTIATED AGREEMENTS WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS. SO WE'VE NEVER HAD TO FILE AN APPROPRIATION. THIS LEGISLATION IS SIMPLY PRESERVING THE CITY'S ABILITY TO COMPLETE THE ROADWAY PROJECT, WHILE CONTINUING TO WORK TOWARD VOLUNTARY AGREEMENTS WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS. AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THE RESOLUTION? I'D LIKE TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC LIKE TO SPEAK REGARDING RESOLUTION R 30, 2026? SEEING NO PUBLIC COMMENT, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE A MOTION ON THE RESOLUTION I MOVE FOR ADOPTION OF R 30, 2026 SECOND. COUNCIL MEMBER. YES. COUNCILMEMBER. YES. COUNCILMEMBER SCHULTZ. YES.

COUNCILMEMBER MCCLELLAN. YES. COUNCILMEMBER. KISS. YES. COUNCILMEMBER. YES. MAYOR.

SPALDING. YES. SEVEN. YES. VOTES TO APPROVE RESOLUTION R 30, 2026. RESOLUTION R 31, 2026 A RESOLUTION TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO PREPARE AND SUBMIT AN APPLICATION TO PARTICIPATE IN THE OHIO PUBLIC WORKS COMMISSION, STATE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT AND OR LOCAL TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT PROGRAMS, AND TO EXECUTE CONTRACTS AS REQUIRED. MR. THANK YOU. THIS RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO SUBMIT AN APPLICATION TO THE OHIO PUBLIC WORKS COMMISSION FOR FUNDING OF THE MORRIS ROAD AND BEACH ROAD ROUNDABOUT PROJECT. THE DESIGN OF THIS PROJECT IS FULLY FUNDED THIS YEAR, AND WE CURRENTLY HAVE APPROXIMATELY 7.5 MILLION BUDGETED FOR THE CONSTRUCTION NEXT YEAR. WE'RE ACTIVELY MOVING THROUGH DESIGN WHILE CONTINUING TO PURSUE OUTSIDE FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES TO HELP REDUCE THE CITY'S COST. ONCE COMPLETE, THIS PROJECT WILL TRANSFORM ONE OF THE MORE CHALLENGING INTERSECTIONS WITHIN OUR CITY LIMITS. TODAY. THE MORRIS BEACH AND CLARK STATE ROAD INTERSECTION OPERATES AS A FOUR WAY STOP, WHICH RESULTS IN SIGNIFICANT TRAFFIC QUEUES DURING PEAK HOUR. DURING OUT THERE IN THE BUSINESS PARK, WE ALSO HAVE STOP SIGNS THAT CONTINUALLY DISAPPEAR, GET RAN OVER. AND THERE'S ALSO DRAINAGE, PRETTY SIGNIFICANT DRAINAGE ISSUES TODAY AT THAT INTERSECTION. AND SO, ALL OF THOSE WILL BE IMPROVED WITH THIS PROPOSED ROUNDABOUT. WHAT'S ON THE SCREEN TODAY IS NOT OUR FINAL DESIGN, BUT IT IS A CONCEPTUAL, CONCEPTUAL LEVEL EXHIBIT THAT WE'VE USED TO DISCUSS THIS WITH.

THE OTHER AGENCIES IN THIS AREA. SO AS IT IS TODAY, MORRIS ROADS HERE, YOU CAN SEE THAT WE ARE LIFTING THE INTERSECTION TO THE NORTH. AND SO THE MAJORITY OF THIS ROUNDABOUT WOULD FALL WITHIN OUR, WITHIN OUR CITY LIMITS. AND JUST AS A REMINDER, PATASKALA IS DOWN HERE TO THE SOUTH. WE'RE OPTIMISTIC ABOUT THIS OPWC APPLICATION BECAUSE THE PROJECT HAS VERY STRONG REGIONAL SUPPORT. IN ADDITION TO THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY. WE HAVE THE CITY OF PATASKALA, THE LICKING COUNTY ENGINEER, THE LICKING COUNTY, T, D AND JERSEY TOWNSHIP, ALL SUPPORTING THIS PROJECT. APPROVAL OF THIS RESOLUTION SIMPLY AUTHORIZES US TO SUBMIT AN APPLICATION AND POSITIONS US TO COMPETE FOR THESE GRANT FUNDS. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. SO, RYAN, NORTH OF THIS, AGAIN, THIS IS JUST A PROPOSAL, NOT THE FINAL DESIGN. NORTH OF THE ROADWAY ON

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YEAH, AND WE GOT IT. FIVE POINTS FOR YOU BEFORE YOU LEAVE, JOE. WE GOTTA TACKLE THAT ONE.

HOPEFULLY WE GET SOME GOOD NEWS ON THE FUNDING. ALL RIGHT. IF THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. WOULD ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC LIKE TO SPEAK REGARDING RESOLUTION R 31, 2026? SEEING NO PUBLIC COMMENT, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE A MOTION ON THE RESOLUTION I MOVE FOR ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION R 31, 2026 SECOND. COUNCIL MEMBER MACLEOD. YES. COUNCILMEMBER. YES. COUNCILMEMBER SCHULTZ. YES. COUNCILMEMBER. YES. COUNCIL.

MAYOR. SPALDING. YES. COUNCILMEMBER. DERRICK. YES. COUNCILMEMBER. KISS. YES. SEVEN.

YES. VOTES TO ADOPT RESOLUTION R 31, 2026. RESOLUTION R 32, 2026. A RESOLUTION TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH THE CITY OF PATASKALA RELATED TO THE MORRIS ROAD, CLARK STATE ROAD AND BEACH ROAD ROUNDABOUT PROJECT. THANK YOU MAYOR. OVER THE PAST YEAR, WE'VE WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH THE CITY OF PATASKALA TO DEVELOP A TRUE PARTNERSHIP ON THIS IMPROVEMENT, THIS RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH PATASKALA THAT CLEARLY DEFINES EACH COMMUNITY'S ROLES, RESPONSIBILITIES AS WE MOVE THIS PROJECT FORWARD. UNDER THE MOU, NEW ALBANY WILL SERVE AS THE LEAD AGENCY AND WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR COORDINATING DESIGN RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION GRANT ADMINISTRATION. IF WE'RE SUCCESSFUL AND CONSTRUCTION OF THE PROJECT UPON COMPLETION. NEW ALBANY WILL ALSO ASSUME LONG TERM MAINTENANCE OF THE ROUNDABOUT. PATASKALA, IN TURN, HAS COMMITTED TO CONTRIBUTE $2 MILLION TOWARDS THE PROJECT, WITH PAYMENTS TIED TO DIFFERENT PROJECT MILESTONES. THE AGREEMENT ALSO COMMITS BOTH COMMUNITIES TO WORK COOPERATIVELY THROUGH DESIGN, RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION AND CONSTRUCTION. IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THIS MOU DOESN'T AUTHORIZE CONSTRUCTION OR AWARD CONTRACTS, INSTEAD ESTABLISHES THE FRAMEWORK FOR HOW THE TWO COMMUNITIES WILL WORK TOGETHER, SHARE THE RESPONSIBILITIES, AND COORDINATE THE FUNDING AS WE MOVE THROUGH THE PROJECT. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR ANY QUESTIONS FROM STAFF OR TWO STAFF FROM COUNCIL. ALL RIGHT, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC LIKE TO SPEAK REGARDING RESOLUTION R 32, 2026. SEEING NO PUBLIC COMMENT, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MOVE FOR THE ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION R 32, 2026 SECOND. MAYOR SPALDING. YES. COUNCILMEMBER. YES.

COUNCILMEMBER SCHULTZ. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. MCCLELLAN. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. YES. I HAVE SEVEN YES VOTES TO ADOPT RESOLUTION R 33, 2026.

ALL RIGHT. AND JUST A QUICK THANK YOU TO CITY MANAGER STEFANOV AND OUR PUBLIC SERVICE DIRECTOR, MR. ROWLEY, FOR WORKING WITH PATASKALA. THIS HAS BEEN A SOMETHING THAT HAS OBVIOUSLY BEEN IN NEED OF IMPROVEMENT FOR A WHILE. SOMETIMES IT'S CHALLENGING WHEN THERE'S MULTIPLE JURISDICTIONS. SO THANK YOU FOR WORKING TO GET THAT DONE. MUCH APPRECIATED.

RESOLUTION R 33 2026. A RESOLUTION TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO AMEND A LEASE AGREEMENT WITH THE NEW ALBANY JOINT PARK DISTRICT TO FACILITATE THE CONSTRUCTION AND OPERATION OF A RESTROOM FACILITY AT BETHLEHEM PARK. MR. ROWLEY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. THIS RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO AMEND OUR EXISTING LEASE AGREEMENT WITH THE NEW ALBANY JOINT PARKS DISTRICT TO ALLOW THE CITY TO CONSTRUCT, OPERATE, MAINTAIN A RESTROOM FACILITY AT THE PARK, ADJACENT TO THE PICKLEBALL COURTS. AND SO THE AREA THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS RIGHT HERE IN RED, WHERE WE PLAN TO CONSTRUCT A RESTROOM FACILITY THIS WINTER, TO HAVE IT OPEN BY NEXT SPRING. WHEN COUNCIL APPROVED THE PICKLEBALL COMPLEX IN 2023, THE LEASE DID NOT CONTEMPLATE A RESTROOM FACILITY. THIS AMENDMENT SIMPLY EXPANDS THAT AGREEMENT TO ALLOW THE CITY TO CONSTRUCT AND MAINTAIN ON THIS

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SO, BUT YES, IT'S, I THINK WE ALL RECOGNIZE THAT, IT'LL BE USED GENERALLY BY THE PUBLIC AND ANYBODY WHO'S OUT THERE. WAS THERE ANY. NO. YEAH. NO, I WOULD SAY IT WAS JUST USED FOR EASE OF EASE OF KNOWING WHERE IT IS IN THE LOCATION. AND I SUPPOSE IT MIGHT IN THE LONG RUN, RESERVE SOME SORT OF RIGHT FOR US IF WE FEEL IT'S BEING ABUSED AND WE NEED TO LOCK DOWN OURS WITH THE PICKLEBALL COURT USAGE OR SOMETHING. RIGHT, RIGHT. YEAH, YEAH. BECAUSE LEGALLY NOW IN WRITING IT SAYS IT'S FOR THE PICKLEBALL COURTS. BUT THAT WASN'T AN INTENTIONAL.

OKAY. JUST CURIOUS. THANK YOU. YEAH. I THINK EVEN AT TAYLOR FARM PARK, SORT OF OUR FIRST FORAY INTO OUR OPERATION AND RUNNING OF A RESTROOM FACILITY, THEY ARE ON A LOCKED SYSTEM, RIGHT? THERE'S A TIMER THAT'S NOTIFIED OF FOLKS. SO, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, HOW LONG YOU HAVE TO USE OUR FACILITIES BEFORE THEY ELECTRONICALLY LOCK. THAT'S CORRECT. AND IF, IF YOU HAPPEN TO BE IN THEM WHEN THEY LOCK, YOU CAN STILL GET OUT, WHICH IS GOOD. YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S IN OUR BEST INTEREST, I THINK. JUST REAL QUICK, RYAN, WHICH SIDE OF THE SIDEWALK IS IT GOING TO BE ON THE EAST OR WEST? THAT IS A VERY GOOD QUESTION. SO, SO UP UNTIL VERY RECENTLY, JUST THIS WEEK, WE HAVE BEEN PLANNING FOR IT TO BE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE SIDEWALK. AND THEN JUST VERY RECENTLY, WE'VE BEGUN CONTEMPLATING ACTUALLY MOVING IT ABOUT 15FT TO THE WEST. SO THAT WAY IT WOULD BE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE SIDEWALK. REASON BEING IS, OUR WATER LINE THAT WAS JUST INSTALLED HERE WILL BE TAPPED TO SERVICE THIS. AND IF WE ARE BEYOND 150FT, THEN THE THERE'S A HOT BOX THAT'S REQUIRED FOR THE METER. IT'S A CITY OF COLUMBUS REQUIREMENT AND THEY ARE VERY FIRM, YOU KNOW, AND AS FAR AS IT GOES, SO IF WE ARE 160FT, WHICH WE WERE, THEN WE HAVE TO HAVE OUR METER OUTSIDE IN A HOT BOX ADDING EXPENSE AND ALSO A LARGE HOT BOX. SO, IT'S A, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY CONTEMPLATING, BUT RECOMMENDING THAT WE WOULD MOVE IT TO THE WEST SIDE OF THAT IN ORDER TO SAVE SOME COSTS. AND THEN FOR LONG TERM MAINTENANCE AND THE OVERALL ESTHETIC, WE BELIEVE IT WOULD BE BETTER

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YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. YES. MAYOR. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. YES. SEVEN. YES. VOTES TO ADOPT RESOLUTION R 33, 2026. ANY COUNCIL SUBCOMMITTEE

[12. COUNCIL SUBCOMMITTEE REPORTS]

[13. REPORTS OF REPRESENTATIVES]

SO THEY NEED TEMPERATURE CONTROLLED. SO HOPEFULLY WITHIN THE MONTH, THEY WILL HAVE THAT SO THAT THEY CAN BEGIN WORK ON THAT AND THINGS ARE PROGRESSING, STILL ON, ON SCHEDULE. SO EVERYTHING IS, IS GOOD OUT THERE. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS ON THE UPDATE. ALL RIGHT. ANY UPDATE FROM NEW ALBANY PLAIN LOCAL SCHOOLS? YES. THERE WAS A SPECIAL MEETING, ON THE 24TH.

THEY DID THE ELECTION OF THEIR, PRESIDENT AND VICE PRESIDENT. JEN FULLER WAS ELECTED PRESIDENT. MARK WILSON WAS VICE PRESIDENT. THEY ALSO ACCEPTED ALL THEIR SUPPLEMENTAL CONTRACTS. THERE'S SOME CONSTERNATION OVER THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE CROSS COUNTRY COACHES. IT'S NOT THROUGH BARELY. THEY APPROVED IT. STATE CHAMPIONSHIP OR BUST, BUDDY.

YEAH. THEY APPROVED THE MOU FOR THE THREE WAY LAND SWAP FOR THE NEW BUS GARAGE THAT WE DISCUSSED LAST COUNCIL MEETING, IN OUR SCHOOL BOARD LIAISON. WOULD LIKE TO, JUST SHARE A COUPLE REMINDERS THAT, BACK TO SCHOOL IS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER. THERE WAS AN EMAIL SENT HOME WITH ALL THE IMPORTANT DATES, INCLUDING START DATES FOR ALL STUDENTS. SO IF YOU DID NOT RECEIVE THAT EMAIL, YOU CAN GET THAT INFORMATION ON THE WEBSITE. AND THEN I KNOW THERE WERE SOME, THERE WAS AN ISSUE LAST WEEK AS PART OF THE, THE ROLLOUT OF THE NEW EXTRACURRICULAR ACTIVITY CODE OF CONDUCT, IN PERSON PARENT MEETING IS REQUIRED. AND I KNOW THEY, I THINK THEY'VE HAD ONE, AND I THINK EVERYBODY SHOWED UP FOR THE VERY FIRST ONE. THERE WAS, A LITTLE BIT OF DIFFICULTY GETTING INTO THE MEETING AND PARTICIPATING. THERE ARE GOING TO BE SEVERAL MORE. THE FOCUS NOW IS IF YOU ARE, STUDENT IS PLAYING A FALL SPORT, THAT'S THE PRIORITY TO GET INTO THOSE MEETINGS. THERE'S SEVERAL ON, DATES ON THE WEBSITE FOR THOSE.

SO IF YOUR STUDENT IS NOT IN A FALL SPORT, MAYBE WAIT UNTIL SOME OF THE LATER ONES SO THEY CAN KIND OF GET THROUGH SO EVERYBODY DOESN'T HAVE TO SHOW UP FOR THE VERY FIRST ONE. BUT, THE UPDATE IS, SHARES EXPLICIT EXPECTATIONS FOR PARENT BEHAVIOR, ESPECIALLY AT GAMES, AND CONSEQUENCES FOR PARENTS THAT DO NOT MEET THOSE EXPECTATIONS. SO WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT? ME? I'M NOT LOOKING, I THINK, PARENT BEHAVIOR AT SOME ATHLETIC EVENTS AND OTHER EXTRACURRICULAR EVENTS HAS GOTTEN, A LITTLE EGREGIOUS. SO TRYING TO NIP IT IN THE BUD AND BE A LITTLE BIT MORE PROACTIVE THIS YEAR. SO, YEAH, DON'T FREAK OUT IF YOU CAN'T GET IN THAT, YOU KNOW, THE VERY FIRST MEETING, BUT CHECK THE DATES ON THE WEBSITE AND JUST TRY TO GET ONE IN BEFORE SCHOOL STARTS. GREAT. THANK YOU. IS THAT A LIVE MEETING OR CAN THEY? IT IS AN IN-PERSON REQUIRED IN-PERSON MEETING. OKAY. YES. GOTCHA. VERY WELL ATTENDED. THE FIRST

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[18. OTHER BUSINESS]

AND, I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A HOT MINUTE. I DON'T REMEMBER US DOING THIS BEFORE, SO I MIGHT NEED SOME HELP WALKING THROUGH THE PROCESS. IS THERE A STAFF PRESENTATION OR. I'M HAPPY TO TAKE THIS ONE. MAYOR. OKAY. YOU WALK THROUGH THE PROCESS. YEAH. SO YOU'RE YOU'RE RIGHT. THIS IS A, A PROCESS THAT CERTAINLY HASN'T HAPPENED SINCE I'VE BEEN LAW DIRECTOR. AND I THINK WHEN WE SPOKE ON THE PHONE A BIT ABOUT IT LAST WEEK, I'M NOT SURE THAT IT'S EVER POPPED UP.

SO WE'RE, BREAKING NEW GROUND HERE TONIGHT AS WE TALK THROUGH THIS PROCESS. BUT, FIRST THINGS FIRST, AN APPEAL HAS BEEN FILED TO CITY COUNCIL REGARDING THE, DISAPPROVAL OF A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION. AND, CHRIS, IF YOU WANT TO MOVE AHEAD, WE'LL GO HIGH SCHOOL BASEBALL. HERE'S THE INDICATOR. NOS. ADVANCE IT. SO, IF NOT, WE'LL BUNT OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES. BUT SO WE'VE HAD A LONG PROCESS TO GET HERE. AND LEADING UP TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WHICH HAD ITS HEARING, JULY 20TH. SO, A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, EVERYTHING HAD GONE THROUGH ALL THE APPROPRIATE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS FOR APPROVAL. THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN WAS APPROVED BY THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD WITH A FEW CONDITIONS. IT WAS APPROVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION WITH CONDITIONS. IT CAME TO THE CITY COUNCIL, WITH THE REZONING AND ALL THAT WAS ADOPTED. SO THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN WAS SET TO MOVE FORWARD. SO AS THEY WENT TO IMPLEMENT AND GET APPROVAL ON THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN, IT WENT BACK THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS AND IT WENT TO THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD. IT WAS APPROVED. THEN IT WENT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND IT WAS NOT APPROVED AT PLANNING COMMISSION. IT WAS REJECTED BY A TWO TWO VOTE, WHICH IS HOW WE GOT HERE. SO CHRIS, IF YOU WANT TO GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, SO PLANNING COMMISSION, WHEN THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN GOES BACK FOR REVIEW. THESE ARE THE STANDARDS IN OUR CODE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION, SHOULD CONSIDER. GENERALLY SPEAKING THE BIG ISSUE IS DOES IT COMPLY WITH THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND THE USES SET FORTH IN THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN. AND, IS IT WAS PRESENTED TO COUNCIL AND YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. CHRIS. IT WAS REJECTED. AND WHEN IT WAS REJECTED AND WE PUT SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS UP ON THE SCREEN HERE FOR CONSIDERATION, THEY CONSIDERED ISSUES THE TWO NO VOTES CONSIDERED ISSUES THAT WERE PRESENTED WITH THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN, SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO THE USE OF THE SITE, WHICH, IS NOT ONE OF THE FACTORS FOR CONSIDERATION. THE THE USE ISSUE HAS BEEN RESOLVED. SO IT'S OUTSIDE THE PURVIEW OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. SO ONCE IT'S VOTED DOWN, THE ISSUE CAME UP ABOUT WHAT IS THE NEXT STEP IN THE PROCESS FOR THE APPLICANT. ONE OF THE OPTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT WAS TO REQUEST A MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION WITH PLANNING COMMISSION. PURSUANT TO OUR CODE, THERE ARE SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY HAVE TO MEET. THEY HAVE TO SHOW THAT THEIR CHANGED CIRCUMSTANCES, OR NEW INFORMATION'S AVAILABLE THAT WASN'T PRESENT PREVIOUSLY, OR THEY COULD APPEAL TO COUNCIL. AND THAT IS WHAT THEY'VE DONE HERE. THEY, THERE'S A PROCESS WITHIN OUR CODE THAT ALLOWS THEM TO APPEAL TO COUNCIL WITHIN 30 DAYS. ALL OUR CODE SAYS AT THAT POINT IS THAT WE HAVE TO ACT WITHIN A REASONABLE PERIOD OF TIME. THERE'S NO FURTHER GUIDANCE OR EXPLANATION ABOUT WHAT COUNCIL NEEDS TO DO NEXT, OR SHOULD DO OR DO NEXT.

SO I THINK IN TALKING THROUGH THIS PROCESS, COUNCIL HAS FOUR REAL OPTIONS THAT CAN CONSIDER.

IT CAN REJECT THE APPEAL, WHICH I WOULDN'T RECOMMEND COUNSEL DOING, BECAUSE I THINK THERE ARE SOME POTENTIAL ISSUES WITH RESPECT TO THE RATIONALE AS TO WHY IT WAS DISAPPROVED. IT COULD APPROVE THE APPEAL BASED UPON THE RECORD SUBMITTED FROM PLANNING COMMISSION. IT CAN CONDUCT A DE NOVO REVIEW WHERE IT EFFECTIVELY SERVES AS THE ROLE OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WHERE IT WOULD SET A HEARING AT THE NEXT MEETING OR AT A REASONABLE TIME WHERE, STAFF WILL MAKE A PRESENTATION. THE APPLICANT WILL BE HERE, THEY'LL ANSWER QUESTIONS FROM YOU.

THEY'LL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS FROM YOU. THEY'D BE ABLE TO PRESENT INFORMATION TO YOU. NEIGHBORS WOULD BE ABLE TO SHOW UP AND PROVIDE COMMENT FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. AND THEN YOU'LL MAKE A DETERMINATION BASED UPON THE, THE, THE CRITERIA SET FORTH IN OUR CODIFIED ORDINANCES. OR YOU CAN REMAIN THE MATTER ALTOGETHER. BACK TO PLANNING COMMISSION WITH GUARDRAILS ABOUT WHAT PLANNING COMMISSION SHOULD CONSIDER

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AND THEN GO AHEAD. I WAS JUST ONE THING TO CONSIDER. I'M JUST AND I DON'T KNOW THAT I HAVE I HAVEN'T MADE UP MY MIND YET, BUT, AND I KNOW THAT YOU SAID THAT THIS HASN'T HAPPENED IN THE TIME THAT YOU'VE BEEN HERE OR MAYBE EVER. THE QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS, ARE WE, IF WE CHOSE TO DO NUMBER TWO OR NUMBER THREE, ARE WE SETTING A PRECEDENT FOR ANYONE WHO EVER IS UNHAPPY ABOUT A RESULT THAT THEY GET AT ANY COMMISSION TO JUST COME HERE, AND, AND TRY TO CIRCUMVENT THE PROCESS? SO I, I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT WE DO NUMBER FOUR, BUT I THINK IT'S, IT'S WORTHY OF DISCUSSION BECAUSE EVEN IF THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE DO IT, ONCE WE DO IT, WE'VE, WE'VE KIND OF SET THE EXAMPLE FOR THE FUTURE. SURE. AND THEN THE OTHER, THE OTHER THING ABOUT THAT, I GUESS WOULD BE WITH NUMBER FOUR, WHEN YOU SAY WITH GUIDANCE BASED ON WHAT, BASED ON WHAT YOU PRESENTED TO US, THE GUIDANCE WOULD BASICALLY BE FOLLOW THE RULES THAT HAVE ALREADY SET. CORRECT. IT WOULD BE. YEAH, YEAH. SO FIRST, ARE WE SETTING PRECEDENT? I MEAN, I THINK THE ARGUMENT COULD BE THAT IT'S PRECEDENT, BUT I THINK THE FACT THAT WE'RE HAVING DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW ABOUT YOUR FOUR OPTIONS, THAT'S WHAT YOUR PRECEDENT IS IN THE FUTURE THAT MAYBE YOU CONSIDER. THESE ARE FOUR OPTIONS FOR CONSIDERATION.

THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT GETTING TO THIS POINT CANDIDLY, IS, HOW DO WE GET THERE? AND I THINK THIS PROVIDES COUNCIL DISCRETION WHENEVER THIS WOULD HAPPEN. SO IN THEORY, WE COULD DO NUMBER ONE TONIGHT IF THERE WASN'T GROUNDS, IF IN A DIFFERENT SCENARIO, IF SOMEONE WAS JUST UPSET ABOUT THE DECISION, DIDN'T LIKE THE OPINION. YES, BUT IT WAS WELL FOUNDED, WE COULD JUST SAY WE'RE NOT GOING TO GRANT YOU. EXACTLY RIGHT.

THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. YOU ALWAYS HAVE THE ABILITY AND THAT AND THAT'S THE THE I GUESS I DON'T WANT TO SAY STICK BECAUSE THAT'S PROBABLY NOT THE WAY TO. BUT THAT'S THE WAY TO DISCOURAGE PEOPLE FROM. IF I'M UNHAPPY WITH THIS DECISION, I'M ALWAYS GETTING UP HERE. AND IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT IN THE CODIFIED ORDINANCES. 1159 TEN IT'S VERY SPECIFIC AS TO WHAT WHAT CAN BE APPEALED TO COUNCIL. SO IT'S NOT GOING TO BE NECESSARILY EVERY, EVERY DECISION. OKAY. BUT THEN AGAIN, I THINK THE OTHER THING TO THINK ABOUT IS AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS, MAYBE WE NEED TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT MORE DIRECTION WITHIN OUR CODIFIED

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AND SIMILARLY, THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WENT ON FROM THE INITIAL APPROVAL TO THE FINAL APPROVAL. AND DID THE APPLICANT SATISFY THOSE? I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF CONDITIONS IN THERE. IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT FOR ME SITTING HERE TODAY TO SAY, REMAND THIS BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION WITH THESE GUARDRAILS, WHEN WE DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND ALL THE TERMS AND PARTICULARS THAT THEY WENT THROUGH AND WHAT THE APPLICANT SATISFIED, IF HE SATISFIED WHAT THEY ASKED THEM TO DO AT THE BEGINNING, AND THEN THEY'RE CHANGING THE GAME AT THE END, AND NOW THEY'RE USING ANOTHER TERM. SURE, THERE ARE GUARDRAILS WE SHOULD PUT ON,

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EITHER WAY, I DON'T. I THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE IT IS WHAT IT IS. I FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE AS A COUNCIL LISTENING TO THE REVIEW, AND THEN WE TAKE ACTION. AND WITH ALL THE NEW INFORMATION AS FAR AS THE EASEMENT FENCE, FIRE DEPARTMENT, THERE'S TIME. YEAH. THAT WOULD BE MY PREFERRED APPROACH. SO IF YOU DON'T MIND. YES. THERE WAS A, YOU KNOW, ONLY FOUR MEMBERS THERE. THERE'S A 2 TO 2 VOTE. SO THAT IS A, YOU, YOU KNOW, A BIT OF A UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCE.

SURE. CERTAINLY WANT TO HAVE A FULL PANEL TO CONSIDER THINGS LIKE THIS. IT'S PRETTY CLEAR LOOKING AT THE RECORD AND WATCHING THE VIDEO, THAT THE CONDITIONS WHICH COMMONLY COMES BEFORE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT THEY'RE GOING TO APPROVE CONDITIONALLY IF THERE'S ANY ENGINEERING ISSUES. WELL, AGAIN, THERE WASN'T REALLY FULLY DESCRIBED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AT THE TIME. THEY MADE THE DECISION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THIS, THE CITY ENGINEER'S COMMENT WAS, WAS ACCURATE ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THE FIRE TRUCK TURNING RADIUS ANALYSIS WAS IN, IN THE RECORD. AND THEN SECONDLY, WHETHER OR NOT THIS EASEMENT WAS OR WASN'T FULLY NEGOTIATED. SURE. SO YOU HAD TWO ISSUES THAT WEREN'T FULLY RESOLVED AND PRESENTED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WHICH COULD HAVE SWAYED THEIR VOTE, PERHAPS. AGAIN, YOU HAD FOUR MEMBERS. AND THEN AS, AS YOUR MEMO POINTS OUT, IF THEY'RE GOING TO VOTE NO, THEY HAVE TO ARTICULATE THE REASONS GOING THROUGH THE DUNCAN ANALYSIS, ALL THOSE THINGS. BUT IN, IN THIS CASE, WHERE THERE'S A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT COMPLIES WITH THE REGULATIONS IN THE CHAPTER, THEY BASICALLY HAVE TO APPROVE IT UNLESS THERE'S A DISCREET REASONS WHY

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IT'S SOMETIMES DIFFICULT. BUT BASED ON THE RECORD BEFORE COUNCIL, THERE'S NOT SUFFICIENT RATIONALE TO SUPPORT THE DENIAL. SO IF THEY WERE IF WE WERE TO REMAND IT AND THOSE ISSUES IN THE ENGINEERING REPORT WERE ADDRESSED WITH THE FULL EVIDENCE BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THEY WOULD HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY. AND THEN IF THEY VOTE NO, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE INSTRUCTED VERY CLEARLY. WHAT SORT OF RATIONALE HAS TO BE PUT INTO THE RECORD TO SUPPORT THE DENIAL? THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. THEY'LL THEY'LL HAVE TO HAVE A. AND IT'LL BE INCUMBENT UPON ME TO EXPLAIN TO THEM, HERE'S WHAT. WHEN I SAY GUARDRAILS, GUIDELINES, THIS IS WHAT THE STATUTE SAYS OR THE CODIFIED ORDINANCE SAY. IF YOU VOTE NO, IT'S GOT TO BE BASED UPON ONE OF THESE ENUMERATED FACTORS. IT CAN'T BE BASED UPON HOW YOU VIEW ABOUT PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT'S BEEN, PREVIOUSLY APPROVED. MAYBE IT'S MAYBE IT IS THE SAFETY VEHICLE, MAYBE IT DOESN'T HAVE THE TURNING RADIUS. AND THEN YOU HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THAT. OKAY, MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING NEW AND FAIR TO CONSIDER. BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE BASED UPON THOSE ENUMERATED, ENUMERATED FACTORS AT THAT POINT. OKAY, SO I DIDN'T WANT TO CUT ANYONE ELSE OFF. ANY OTHER COMMENTS. SO PROCEDURALLY, I KNOW THIS YOUNG MAN'S BEEN WAITING FOR A MOMENT TO SAY A THING OR TWO, BUT, ARE YOU REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT? YES, SIR. OKAY. PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF. YEAH. YOU'RE EXHAUSTED. YEAH, I CAN MAKE IT LESS HOT. YEAH, SHE CAN TURN IT DOWN. IT'S ALSO LOUDER TO YOU THAN IT IS TO US. BECAUSE SO LOUD TO YOU IS JUST RIGHT FOR US. ERIC ZARTMAN, ATTORNEY FROM DILLON HODGE. I REPRESENT THE PROPERTY OWNER. I APPRECIATE ALL YOUR, THANKS, MAYOR. AND AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, I APPRECIATE ALL YOUR DELIBERATION ABOUT WHETHER TO DO DE NOVO REVIEW OR APPEAL OR APPROVE TONIGHT. WE WOULD APPRECIATE IF YOU CONSIDER THE NUMBER TWO FOR A COUPLE OF FACTORS. FIRST, THE, THE RECORD WAS CLEAR IN THE STAFF REPORT THAT THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN WAS COMPLIANT WITH ALL THE, PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND THE ZONING, WHEN THERE ARE CONDITIONS IN THERE, THE CONDITIONS CAN BE A PART OF THE APPROVAL PROCESS AND THE ZONING COMPLIANCE IS HELD BACK UNTIL THOSE CONDITIONS ARE MET. SO SELF DEFENSE, THE FIRE TURNING LANE, ULTIMATELY DOES NEED TO BE APPROVED IN ORDER FOR ZONING COMPLIANCE TO HAPPEN. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD AFFECT THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN. IT HAS TO COMPLY WITH THE CODE AND THE ZONING TEXT THAT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED. I JUST, THERE'S A GREAT SLIDE ON HERE AND YOU GUYS ALL SEEM TO WATCH THE VIDEO, BUT, IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE, IT'S JUST SO CLEAR THAT THE BASIS OF THE TWO NODES WAS NOT AN APPROPRIATE APPLICATION OF AN APPROVAL OF FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE. 1159 THE, THE TWO COMMISSIONERS EXPRESSED THAT THEY DIDN'T LIKE THE USE AND THE ZONING, AND THEY CARRIED THEIR COMMENTS FORWARD FROM BACK WHEN THEY VOTED NO ON THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN. AND THAT REZONING, AS BEN SAID, THE ISSUE OF THE USE IS SETTLED THERE. IT'S, IT'S NOT A MATTER OF DISCRETION ANYMORE. SO, FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN REVIEW. THE SOLE QUESTION ARE, IS THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN COMPLIANT WITH THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN ZONING CODE AND THEN CHAPTER THE DEVELOPMENT TAX. AND THEN CHAPTER 1159. I WOULD SUBMIT THAT, THE STAFF REPORT MAKES IT CLEAR THAT WITH THOSE CONDITIONS, WE DO MEET ALL THOSE FACTORS. AND SO, WE ARE INTERESTED IN GETTING THIS PROJECT MOVING AS FAST AS POSSIBLE. WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT FOR A WHILE AND WEREN'T REALLY EXPECTING THIS HICCUP. SO, IF YOU AT ALL, WE'D APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION IF YOU APPROVE IT TONIGHT. AND WE WOULD UNDERSTAND IF YOU WANTED TO KNOW IF EITHER OF YOU AS WELL. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL. ALL RIGHT. BEN, WHAT WHAT DO WE DO NOW? WE GET A WE GET A PICK. PICK AN ADVENTURE.

IT'S A CHOOSE YOUR OWN ADVENTURE AT THIS POINT. SO I SUPPOSE SOMEONE COULD MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE IT. SOMEONE COULD MAKE A MOTION TO DO A DE NOVO REVIEW OR, REJECT IT OR ANY OF THOSE FOUR AND SEE WHERE YOU FALL ON THAT ONE. I WOULD. LEAN TOWARDS NUMBER THREE TO UNDERSTAND MORE RATHER THAN JUST APPROVING, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH INFORMATION ABOUT THIS. I, I ACCEPT THAT THEY MET THE PRELIMINARY, THEY MET THE ZONING APPEALS, THE ZONING REQUIREMENTS, ETC. AND THE REASONS FOR TURNING IT DOWN ARE A LITTLE BIT INCONSISTENT WITH THE NORMAL PROCESS. I THINK TO JUMP TO APPROVAL, IT'S DIFFICULT, ALTHOUGH I LEAN THAT WAY, IT'S DIFFICULT FOR ME TO DO THAT WITHOUT KNOWING MORE ABOUT THE TOTAL PROJECT AND

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I'LL SECOND THAT ONE. THANK YOU. MIGHT CONFUSE ME BY HIS DISCUSSION AFTER. IT WAS A IT WAS A HYBRID MOTION. MINE WAS NOT A MOTION. IT WAS MORE TO CLARIFY. YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? DO WE ALL UNDERSTAND IT? I THINK CAN I GIVE MY REASONS FOR MY MOTION? I THINK THIS GIVES US THIS IS THE WAY THAT IF WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THE FUTURE, THIS IS THE WAY THAT I THINK IS THE MOST FAIR TO RESIDENTS AND PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. MAYBE NOT THE APPLICANT. I KNOW TWO WOULD BE HAPPIER FOR YOU, BUT I THINK THAT THIS ALLOWS US TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK. AND WE'RE WE'RE NOT JUST SAYING YOU GOT IT ALL WRONG. WE'RE JUST GOING TO APPROVE IT NOW. AND WE'RE GIVING THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THE INFORMATION HERE AGAIN.

AND HERE IT NOW I'M I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THAT TOO. AND AGAIN, WE HAVE THE WE A HAVEVE THE FOUR OPTIONS. YEAH. O IF WE FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO SEND IT BACK TO SOMEBODY, WE CAN. IN THIS CASE, IF WE WANT TO JUST HEAR A LITTLE BIT MORE. MAKES SENSE TO ME. ALL RIGHT. LET'S CALL THE VOTE. ALL RIGHT. THAT WAS ONE. AND SECOND WAS SORRY. SECOND TWICE. COUNCILMEMBER.

YES. COUNCILMEMBER. SCHULTZ. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. MCCLELLAND. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. KISS. YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER. DEREK. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. BRISK. NO. MAYOR. SPALDING. NO. I HAVE FIVE YES VOTES AND TWO NO VOTES ON THE MOTION. THE MOTION PASSES. OKAY, SO WHEN DO WE SET THE DE NOVO REVIEW HEARING? SO I THINK YOU JUST HAVE TO ACT WITHIN A REASONABLE TIME IF APPLICANT. SO I GUESS THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS. IF APPLICANT'S AVAILABLE AT THE NEXT MEETING, THAT'S CERTAINLY AN OPTION, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD NOTICE ANYBODY THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN NOTICED FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE PRESENT. YEAH. SO IF THAT IS DOABLE WITH THE NEXT, SO WE SHOOT FOR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.

IF THAT WORKS FOR APPLICANT, DOES THAT WORK FOR APPLICANT? YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO I'M SORRY THE DECISION WAS NEXT. COUNCIL MEETING. COUNCIL IS GOOD WITH THAT. IT WORKS FOR APPLICANT. SO. THE MOTION TO CONDUCT A DE NOVO REVIEW PASSED. AND WE ARE WITH THE APPLICANTS APPROVAL SETTING IT FOR OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING ON AUGUST 18TH. OKAY. I HAVE NEIGHBOR NOTICE LETTERS THAT WENT OUT FOR THE FDP AND I CAN REUSE THOSE. OKAY. GIVES US A PRETTY SHORT WINDOW. I WAS GOING TO SAY, IS THAT SUFFICIENT NOTICE TO GET THEM OUT THERE? THE CODE, LAW DIRECTOR ALBRECHT CAN BACK ME UP. THE CODE IS SILENT ON THE NEIGHBOR NOTICE FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROCESS. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE COUNCIL IS THINKING OF THAT. I DON'T SEE.

CHRIS, DO YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS? I'M HAPPY TO HELP. WE CAN SEND THEM OUT. RIGHT. IT'S JUST I, I CAN GET THEM OUT IN TIME. IT'S JUST IT'S A 14 DAY WINDOW WITH REGULAR MAIL TIME. OH. SO MAYBE IN THE NEXT. BUT AGAIN, THIS PROCESS DOESN'T CLEARLY DICTATE HOW MANY DAYS NOTICE WE HAVE TO GIVE, BUT WE'LL GET RIGHT TO IT. THE APPLICANT WON'T BE HERE FOR THAT MEETING. OKAY. BACK ON THE 19TH. THAT SETTLES THAT NOTICE. NO PROBLEM. SO THE NEXT MEETING IS SEPTEMBER 1ST. OKAY. THAT'S ALL I STAND CORRECTED. THEN WE'LL DO THE DE NOVO REVIEW, WHICH ACTUALLY WOULD BE SUPER EXCITING ON SEPTEMBER 1ST. AND THAT GIVES US MORE TIME TO GIVE NOTICE TO THE RESIDENTS THAT WOULD HAVE RECEIVED NOTICE UNDER THE PLANNING COMMISSION PROCESS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

WELL THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. ALL RIGHT. THAT TAKES US TO REPORTS OF CITY OFFICIALS.

REALLY NO UPDATE FROM THE MAYOR, ANYTHING FROM THE CLERK? A COUPLE THINGS. WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO SCHEDULE A CAPITAL PROJECT WORKSHOP AND THE BUDGET WORKSHOP. MAYOR, YOU SENT ME YOUR NOTE ABOUT YOUR AVAILABILITY DURING THIS MEETING, SO I'M NOT SURE WHERE WE STAND. THE 18TH WAS LOOKING BEST. SO FAR. MAYOR, WERE YOU AVAILABLE ON THE 18TH? YEAH, ON FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 18TH. OKAY. FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 18TH, EVERYONE WAS AVAILABLE. I'M NOT AVAILABLE. IN WHAT TIME? THANK YOU. THAT'S THE, NOON TO 430. SO YOU HAD, YOU HAD THROWN OUT THE IDEA OF MAYBE DOING IT IN LIEU OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING. I STILL LIKE THAT IDEA.

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IS THAT THAT DAY? WE DO HAVE A PROJECT THAT'S SCHEDULED TO COME TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING IN SEPTEMBER. OKAY. WE CAN FIGURE THAT OUT. YEAH, WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OPTIONS.

MAYBE WE CAN DO IT BEFORE THE CAPITAL. THAT'S ONE OF THE OPTIONS. OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

SO, IT LOOKS LIKE THE GENERAL CONSENSUS WITH SOME CREATIVITY WILL BE SEPTEMBER 15TH IN THE EVENING FOR THE, WORKSHOP, I WOULD LEAN TOWARDS THE USUAL 630 START TIME UNLESS ANYONE HAS ANY PREFERENCES. IF WE WANTED TO START A LITTLE EARLIER THAN OTHER STAFF, IF THEY THINK IT'S GOING TO, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY, HOW LONG IT'LL TAKE, WE CAN START THERE.

THAT'S FINE. WE'VE BEEN ESTIMATING THREE AND A HALF TO FOUR HOURS. THAT'S WHAT, 630.

OKAY, GREAT. THERE WILL BE THERE WILL BE LOTS OF SNACKS AND COFFEE AND ALL THOSE THINGS.

IT'S FINE. ALL RIGHT. THAT WAS ONE BUDGET WORKSHOP WAS THE SECOND ONE. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK ON MORE DATES FOR THAT. COUNCIL MEMBER MCCLELLAN WAS TRAVELING THE WEEK OF THE DATES THAT WE HAD AVAILABLE. YEAH, THAT I MEAN, WE STARTED RUNNING OUT OF TIME, SO WE HAVE TO GET THAT SCHEDULED IN. SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE WEEK OF WAS IT NOVEMBER? YEAH. THE PREFERRED DATES WERE NOVEMBER 12TH AND 13. COUNCIL MEMBER MCCLELLAN IS OUT NOVEMBER 11 TO 15. OKAY. WE CAN GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND LOOK I'M GOOD. I WILL GIVE YOU SOME MORE DATES. YEAH, WE'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME ON THAT ONE. I BELIEVE IT WAS, DEPUTY DIRECTOR JOE WRIGHT SAID SOMETHING ABOUT MAKING NOVEMBER 17TH WORK. THAT'S AN OPTION. WILL WILL CIRCULATE SOME MORE EMAILS AND MAKE THAT HAPPEN. SO. ALL RIGHT WITH ME. APPRECIATE COUNCIL'S COOPERATION ON THAT. GOING BACK TO MY REPORT, IS EVERYONE GOING TO BE HERE AT THE AUGUST 18TH COUNCIL MEETING? I WILL NOT BE YOU WILL NOT BE. OKAY. COMMUNICATIONS IS TRYING TO SCHEDULE A GROUP PHOTO AND WE START LOSING MORE COUNCIL MEMBERS IN SEPTEMBER. I'M HERE FOR THAT ONE. MAYBE WE CAN GET A LET ME GET YOUR DATES OF AVAILABILITY AND MAYBE WE CAN FIND AN OFF TIME TO GET EVERYONE TOGETHER FOR A PHOTO. OKAY. AND THEN FINALLY, OH, TASTE OF NEW ALBANY. DID ANYONE HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THAT FOR A FUTURE WORKSHOP? OBVIOUSLY IT WON'T BE CAPITAL PROJECTS NOW, BUT IT COULD BE BUDGET. GET BACK TO ME LATER. AND THAT'S IT FOR THE CLERK.

YEAH. ALL RIGHT. ANY UPDATE FROM THE FINANCE DIRECTOR? OH, YEAH. HOT OFF THE PRESS. MORGAN HAS MESSAGED ME AND SAID NOVEMBER 16TH COULD BE A GOOD DATE. NOVEMBER 16TH. NOVEMBER 16TH IS MONDAY. MONDAY. THAT'S A MONDAY BEFORE OUR COUNCIL MEETING. TUESDAY FOR BUDGET FOR THE OPERATING BUDGET WORKSHOP. IT'S BUDGET. I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. JUST SAY YES. NO, I THINK I'M OUT OF TOWN. ACTUALLY. NOVEMBER 17TH NOVEMBER. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. 16TH MONDAY BEFORE THE COUNCIL MEETING. YES, DATE WAS THE 16TH OF NOVEMBER MENTIONED. WE CAN COME BACK NEXT MEETING IF IF WE WANT TO HAVE MORE DATES. BUT THAT WOULD BE A PREFERRED IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO GET IT DONE, IN ORDER FOR THE LEGISLATION TO BE PASSED IN TIME. OKAY, COUNCILMEMBER RICE, GET BACK TO US. NOVEMBER 16TH I WILL BE YOU

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ALL RIGHT. GET READY FOR THE THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO PUT INTO THE BUDGET. RIGHT. THANK YOU. SO AS A GENERAL LIFE PHILOSOPHY, I THINK YOU CAN'T BE SAD WHEN YOU'RE ANGRY WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PARKS. SO I EXPECTED THIS TO BE A FUN PRESENTATION. BUT I THINK A BENEFIT IS I ABSOLUTELY GUARANTEE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE LESS LEGAL CONSIDERATIONS IN THIS DISCUSSION THAN YOU DID ON YOUR LAST ONE. SO I THINK THAT'S A SILVER LINING. BUT JEFF AND MATT KELLOGG, OUR DEAR FRIENDS FROM FCSC ARE HERE WITH US. YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO TALK THROUGH A COUPLE THINGS BEFORE WE, TALK ABOUT THE ATHLETIC CAMPUS AND, KITZMILLER PARK. WE JUST REALLY WANT TO KIND OF BRING YOU UP TO SPEED WITH EVERYTHING WE'VE DONE WITH PARKS IN THE LAST 5 TO 6 YEARS, WHICH IS QUITE A LOT WHEN YOU GO AND THINK BACK TO WHERE WE WERE FIVE YEARS AGO AND WHERE WE ARE TODAY. AND REALLY JUST WANT TO REINFORCE THAT BACKGROUND WITH YOU. BECAUSE IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT AS WE THINK ABOUT THESE NEXT TWO PROJECTS TO CONSIDER WHERE WE WERE THEN WHAT WE'VE DONE SINCE THEN AND KIND OF, YOU KNOW, DECIDE WHAT WE WANT TO DO IN THE FUTURE WITH THESE TWO FACILITIES. THEN WE WILL GET INTO THE ATHLETIC CAMPUS PLAN AND THEN CHELSEA AND CHRIS WILL TALK ABOUT WHERE WE ARE WITH THE KITZMILLER PROJECT. GET SOME INFORMATION FROM YOU BECAUSE THERE WILL BE MORE TO COME ON THE CAPITOL WORKSHOP IN SEPTEMBER FOR THAT. SO, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF YOU WERE AROUND IN 2020 AND IN 2001, AND WE WERE TALKING TO, TO RESIDENTS, WE HAD SOME FOCUS GROUP MEETINGS AND RESIDENTS HOMES AND TALKED ABOUT WHAT THEY THOUGHT ABOUT PARKS IN THE COMMUNITY AND REALLY HEARD A LOT ABOUT WHERE THEY THOUGHT WE WERE LACKING WHEN IT CAME TO PARKS AND RECREATION IN NEW ALBANY. SO PART OF, YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK BACK AT 2020 AND THE PARKS THAT WE HAD, AT THAT TIME, AND THEN JUST A STANDARD METRIC AND PLANNING WHEN IT COMES TO PARKS AND OPEN SPACE IS YOU LOOK AT A TEN MINUTE WALK SHED, SO YOU KNOW, HOW MANY PEOPLE LIVE WITHIN A TEN MINUTE WALK OF ONE OF YOUR PARKS REALLY GIVES YOU A SENSE OF THE LEVEL OF SERVICE YOU'RE PROVIDING TO YOUR RESIDENTS. SO BACK IN 2020, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS MAP OF JUST CITY FACILITIES AT THAT TIME, THIS IS KIND OF THE MOST CONSERVATIVE WAY TO LOOK AT IT. WE WERE REACHING 53% OF OUR RESIDENTS THAT WERE WITHIN A TEN MINUTE WALK TO A PARK THAT THEY COULD GO AND HAVE SOME SORT OF OUTDOOR RECREATION AT.

OBVIOUSLY THAT WOULD BE AT THE METRO PARK. WE'D BE, WE HAVE OTHER THINGS THAT WOULD ADD TO THIS. BUT IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT JUST WHAT THE CITY PROVIDED, WE WERE AT 53%. IF YOU LOOK AT PROJECTED 2030. SO THAT BRINGS US UP TO EVERYTHING WE'VE DONE TODAY. AND THEN IF WE WERE TO ADD SOMETHING AT THE ATHLETIC CAMPUS AND ADD KITZMILLER PARK, THAT BRINGS US UP TO ABOUT 70% OF RESIDENTS. AND AGAIN, IF YOU ADDED IN THE METRO PARK AND THE JPD PARKS, WE WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER. SO THIS IS A REALLY HIGH PERCENTAGE IF YOU'RE LOOKING, YOU KNOW, ACROSS THE COUNTRY, NOT JUST FOR FOR CITIES OUR SIZE, BUT CITIES IN GENERAL, BUT WE'RE REALLY COVERING A HIGH PERCENTAGE AND GIVING THAT ACCESS TO OUR RESIDENTS TO RECREATION. WITHIN

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IT SEEMS LIKE AT THE SAME TIME, IT SEEMS LIKE A LONG TIME AGO AND IT SEEMS LIKE YESTERDAY, BUT IT IS REALLY HARD TO GO BACK AND REMEMBER WHAT THAT CORRIDOR LOOKED LIKE BEFORE THAT PARK. IT'S FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGED THE WAY PEOPLE ACCESS THE VILLAGE CENTER AND THE SCHOOL CAMPUS. AND I THINK LIKE, SET THE TONE FOR WHAT THE COMMUNITY EXPECTS OUT OF PARK SPACE. AND HAVING THESE ASSETS WITHIN A COMMUNITY. WE ON THE HEELS OF THAT, AND THIS REALLY WAS BORN OUT OF WHAT I THINK A LOT OF YOU HEARD FROM RESIDENTS AT THE TIME WAS A TIME WHEN BEING OUTSIDE WAS SUPER IMPORTANT BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC AND PEOPLE WANTED MORE OF THIS. AND SO THIS IS WHEN WE LAUNCHED THE PARKS FRAMEWORK PLAN TO REALLY TRY TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING. YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS START WITH PLANNING IN NEW ALBANY AND GETTING AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE WE STOOD WHEN IT CAME TO PARK SPACES AND RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE COMMUNITY. SO OUT OF THE PARK FRAMEWORK PLAN WAS BORN, KIND OF THE CATEGORIES OF PARKS WE HAVE NOW. SO THE DESTINATIONS PARKS LIKE ROSE RUN, TAYLOR FARM, KITZMILLER, IT TALKED ABOUT NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS, POCKET PARKS. SO THAT KIND OF THOSE CATEGORIES WERE CREATED OUT OF THE PARKS FRAMEWORK PLAN. AND WE ALSO LOOKED AT, SOME OF OUR PARKS TO KIND OF LAY OUT WHAT COULD BE POSSIBLE THERE. SO BACK IN 20, EXCUSE ME. 21, THIS WAS KITZMILLER PARK, FOR EXAMPLE. SO YOU'LL GET TO SEE LIKE THE EVOLUTION OF THAT TONIGHT.

REMEMBER WE HAD ALL THE SKATE PARK, KIDS THAT CAME IN. SO WE INCLUDED SKATE PARK IN THAT CONCEPT. JUST IN GENERAL, I THINK YOU MAYBE SEE MORE ACTIVE THINGS IN THIS CONCEPT THAN MAYBE WHERE WE ARE TODAY BECAUSE OF TWO REASONS. FIRST REASON IS WE, WE PROVIDED A LOT OF THESE THINGS, LIKE FROM PLAYGROUND STANDPOINT, AND WE'VE ADDED PARKS, WE'VE ADDED TAYLOR FARM. BUT ALSO WE HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY WITH THE ATHLETIC CAMPUS NOW TO REALLY THINK ABOUT WHERE'S THE BEST PLACE FOR THESE MORE INTENSIVE ACTIVE USES AND WHERE'S THE BEST PLACE FOR NATURAL USES? AND THEN ALSO, WHAT'S THE COMMUNITY TELLING US WHAT THEY WANT IN TERMS OF, OFSE TYPE OF THINGS WITHIN OUR PARK FACILITIES? THESE WERE JUST SOME CLOSE UP SHOTS, WHICH I THINK IS INTERESTING WHEN YOU LOOK AT THESE NOW, LIKE THIS WAS KITZMILLER, BUT THIS, YOU COULD SAY THIS WAS TAYLOR AND YOU WOULDN'T, YOU KNOW, KNOW ANY DIFFERENT. THIS IS LIKE A LITTLE NATURE PLAY. WE HAVE THAT AT ROSE RUN. WE HAVE A GREAT DESTINATION PLAYGROUND AT TAYLOR FARM. SO THAT PLAN REALLY KIND OF WE STARTED GETTING THE ELEMENTS OF, OF LIKE WHAT WE SHOULD INCLUDE IN THESE PARKS AND WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS EXPECTING. IN 2023, WE ADDED PICKLEBALL COURT. SO IN UPHEAVAL PARK, YOU KNOW, LEARNED FROM THAT AS THE MAYOR SAID THAT YOU NEED RESTROOMS IN THESE THINGS. AND SO REALLY FILLED A BIG GAP THAT WE HAVE IN TERMS OF ACTIVE RECREATION FOR A LOT OF AGES WITHIN THE COMMUNITY WITH THAT FACILITY. AGAIN, IN 2023, WE STARTED OPENING PHASES OF TAYLOR. SO WE INTENTIONALLY PHASED THAT TO TRY TO ADVANCE AND GET SOMETHING AVAILABLE FOR THE COMMUNITY. SO THE FIRST PHASE WAS THE WALKING TRAILS. REALLY RIGHT ON THE HEELS OF THE FIRST PHASE WAS THE PLAYGROUND. THEN KIND OF WRAP THAT UP WITH THE COMMUNITY GARDEN, SOME OF THE PICNIC PAVILIONS, AND ALL THE AMENITIES THAT PEOPLE ENJOY OUT THERE TODAY. AND THEN LAST YEAR IN THE TRIANGLE PLAN, JUST FROM A PLANNING STANDPOINT, AND A LOT OF YOU WERE AT AT THOSE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENTS, BUT WE HEARD A LOT ABOUT, RESIDENTS THAT CAME OUT TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT PLANNING PROCESS ABOUT, RECREATION AND PARK SPACE NORTH OF 161. THEY TALKED A LOT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, KITZMILLER PARK BECAUSE THE CITY HAS OWNED THAT, THAT LAND SINCE, GOING BACK I THINK TO 1998 WITH THE A NF WETLAND MITIGATION SITE THAT WAS ON THERE. AND SO AGAIN, THIS CONTINUES TO COME UP WHEN WE TALK TO THE PUBLIC IN PLANNING PROCESSES, IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE IN THIS AREA AND PARK SPACE, CIVIC SPACE CAME UP A LOT DURING THAT PLANNING PROCESS. SO ALL, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY COMING UP RIGHT BEHIND US, WE HAVE THE SECOND PHASE OF ROSE RUN PARK. SO CONTINUING TO BUILD THAT NETWORK ALL THE WAY FROM TAYLOR FARM UP TO THE TERMINUS OF ROSE PARK AT THE HEADWATERS OF THE ROSE RUN, AND TRYING TO BUILD OUT THAT CORRIDOR. SO THAT'S ONE WAY TO LOOK AT THIS. WHEN YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE ATHLETIC CAMPUS SHOULD LOOK LIKE, WHAT KITZMILLER SHOULD LOOK LIKE, THINK WHERE WE WERE IN 2020, WHAT WE HAD, WHAT WE DIDN'T HAVE, AND WHAT WE HAVE TODAY. I THINK THAT'S

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THIS IS WHAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE EITHER BUILT OR PLANNED IF WE'RE ADDING IN KITZMILLER AND THE ATHLETIC CAMPUS. SO I THINK OUR NUMBERS ARE PRETTY GOOD. IN TERMS OF BASKETBALL, PLAYGROUNDS, DOG PARKS, WE, WE INCLUDED THE DOG PARK IN THE METRO PARK SINCE THAT'S AVAILABLE TO RESIDENTS, TENNIS COURTS, PICKLEBALL COURTS, WHERE WE'RE WELL EXCEED THE STANDARD THERE. AND THEN THIS IS A LITTLE TEASER. YOU'LL SEE A SKATE PARK IN ONE OF THESE CONCEPTS WE'RE GOING TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT TONIGHT. BUT IF THAT IS SOMETHING COUNCIL CHOSE TO BUILD, THEN WE WOULD BE MEETING THAT STANDARD OF WHAT OTHER COMMUNITIES AROUND OUR SIZE PROVIDE FOR THE RESIDENTS. SO SECOND KIND OF PIECE OF THE PUZZLE, KEEP THAT IN MIND AS YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT THE DISCOVER SITE AND, KITZMILLER. SO WE'RE GOING TO DELVE INTO THE ATHLETIC CAMPUS SPECIFICALLY, AND WE CAN FEEL FREE TO TALK WHENEVER YOU WANT TO TALK. WE'RE PRETTY GOOD USUALLY AT THESE THINGS. YOU CAN POP OUT THE MICROPHONE AND JUST HAND IT BACK AND FORTH. OKAY. SO WE HAVE THREE THINGS WE WANT YOU GUYS TO THINK ABOUT TONIGHT AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS AND HOPEFULLY DISCUSS THIS AT THE END AND COME TO SOME, SOME AGREEMENT. NUMBER ONE IS WHAT IS THE POTENTIAL TIMING OF A CITY, PROJECT AT THE DISCOVER SITE? WE KNOW WHAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT'S TIMING IS. WE'LL GO OVER THAT. DO YOU WANT TO TRY TO TIME A CITY PHASE, YOU KNOW, A COMMUNITY PARK PROJECT TO OPEN NEAR THE SAME TIME AS WHEN THE SCHOOLS ARE GOING TO OPEN. THEIR FIRST PHASE, WHICH IS THE BASEBALL SOFTBALL FIELDS. SO NUMBER ONE, THAT'S WHAT WE WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT. NUMBER TWO, WE'D LIKE TO GAIN CONSENSUS ON WHAT THE COMMUNITY AMENITIES SHOULD BE OUT THERE, ESPECIALLY THE ONES, NORTH OF THE EAST WEST DRIVE. AND WE'LL GO THROUGH THAT. SO YOU'LL SEE WHAT THOSE ARE IN THE. THE THIRD THING IS IF YOU DO WANT TO TIME A PROJECT, TO, TO COINCIDE WHEN THE SCHOOL WILL BE OPENING UP THEIR FIRST PHASE, WHAT DO YOU WANT THAT PROJECT TO BE? THESE PEOPLE CAN DESIGN A LOT OF THINGS, BUT WE HAVE TO TELL THEM WHAT WE WANT THEM TO DESIGN. AND SO DEFINING WHAT A FIRST PHASE OF A CITY PROJECT COULD BE WOULD BE THE SECOND OBJECTIVE OUT OF OUR DISCUSSION TODAY. SORRY, THE THIRD OBJECTIVE. SO I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS REALLY QUICKLY JUST TO REMIND YOU, BUT THIS IS THE SCHEMATIC SITE PLAN THAT WE WORKED REALLY HARD WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT JUST STARTING LAST AUGUST. THE RENDERINGS THAT WE BROUGHT TO YOU IN FEBRUARY WERE BASED ON A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, THE GENERAL PROGRAM OF THIS SITE IS THE SAME. WE HAVE KIND OF FINE TUNED SOME OF THE DETAILS. AND THEN WE DO HAVE SOME NEW IDEAS TO SHARE FOR YOU, NORTH OF THIS EAST WEST DRIVE. SO TO ORIENT YOURSELF, NORTH IS UP HERE.

THIS IS NEW ALBANY ROAD, CENTRAL COLLEGE, AND THEN 605 IS HERE. THE SITE HAS, JUST IN GENERAL A LOOP TRAIL SYSTEM. SO THERE'S A ONE MILE LOOP AROUND THE ENTIRE PERIMETER OF THE SITE. AND THEN WE HAVE THESE, I THINK I'LL CALL THEM JUST GENERALLY THREE ENTRY FEATURES IN DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE SITE IN A WAY TO WELCOME PEOPLE IN. WE HAVE THE SCHOOL'S BASEBALL SOFTBALL COMPLEX HERE. WE HAVE A PROMENADE THAT IS A MAJOR PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION NORTH SOUTH THROUGH THE SOUTHERN END OF THE SITE. WE HAVE A FUTURE SCHOOL PHASE OF A MULTI PURPOSE FIELD, A STADIUM. NUMBER 18 IS JUST A FUTURE RECREATION OPPORTUNITY TO BE DETERMINED.

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IF THAT IS STILL SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL'S INTERESTED IN DOING, AND YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE STILL HEARING THAT IN THE COMMUNITY, I WOULD SAY THE TWO MAIN USER GROUPS WE WERE THINKING OF WHEN WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT THIS, WHAT COULD WE PROVIDE FOR ACTIVE ADULTS? BECAUSE WE KNOW WE HAVE SOME, YOU KNOW, 55 AND OVER COMMUNITIES REALLY WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE HERE. AND IN FACT, THE PLANNING STAFF. SO IT DAWNED ON US A FEW WEEKS AGO, LIKE, WHAT DO ACTIVE ADULTS WON? WELL, WE HAVE SENIORS OVER AT THE HIGH CENTER EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK. SO WE'RE GOING TO GO AND TALK TO THEM ON THURSDAY. THE PLANNING STAFF IS GOING TO GO OVER THERE AND JUST TALK TO THE WHAT WOULD YOU WANT IN A PARK. AND SO WE'LL GET SOME GOOD INFORMATION ABOUT THAT. AND THEN ALSO WE WANT TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE ENOUGH THERE FOR, STUDENTS AND CHILDREN OF ALL AGES. SO WE HEAR ABOUT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL KIDS NOT HAVING PLACES TO GO AND THINGS TO DO. AND SO WHAT OUR USES THAT THAT AGE GROUP MIGHT WANT. SO A SKATE PARK, A CLIMBING WALL, ARE SOME THINGS THAT MIGHT CATER TO THAT, THAT, THAT MIDDLE SCHOOL AGE, THAT TWEEN OR TEENAGER, AGE, I THINK, I DON'T KNOW IF JEFF WOULD AGREE, BUT I THINK WHAT WE FOUND, LIKE THE SECRET SAUCE OF A LOT OF THESE PARK PROJECTS IS TO HAVE ENOUGH VARIETY THAT YOU'RE GIVING REASONS FOR PEOPLE TO GO BACK TO THESE PLACES OVER AND OVER AGAIN. SO IT'S NOT JUST A PLACE WHERE YOU GO TAKE A WALK, BUT MAYBE YOU DO THAT ONE DAY AND THE NEXT DAY YOU'RE GOING, YOU KNOW, TO DO THE CLIMBING WALL OR TAKE YOUR CHILDREN TO THE PLAYGROUND.

SO I THINK THERE'S A BIG VARIETY IN HERE. WHAT DO YOU NEED ME FOR? THAT'S AMAZING. I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE DIRECTION THAT WE GOT FROM STAFF WAS PRETTY CLEAR. WE DIDN'T WANT THIS TO FEEL JUST LIKE A SERIES OF BALL FIELDS AND PARKING LOTS. SO WE WORKED REALLY HARD TO LEVERAGE EVERYTHING THAT THIS SITE HAD TO OFFER. IT FEELS PRETTY BIG TO START PUTTING LOTS OF BALL FIELDS ON IT, BUT IT'S GOT SOME SIZE TO IT. IT'S GOT SOME TOPOGRAPHY AROUND THE EDGES, SOME GREAT TREES. IT HAS THE WATER FEATURE ON THE SOUTHWEST SIDE. SO WE REALLY TRIED TO LEVERAGE ALL OF THAT. AND REALLY THE GOAL HERE IS TO CREATE A PARK THAT HAS BALL FIELDS IN IT, NOT JUST A BALL FIELDS PARK. SO, THAT MAYBE SOUND LIKE A NUANCE, BUT IT'S REALLY SOMETHING THAT WE STRIVE TO DO SO THAT THIS IS A PLACE YOU WOULD COME TO IF EVEN YOU'RE NOT THERE FOR A BALL GAME, BUT IF YOU ARE THERE FOR A BALL GAME, YOU YOURSELF OR YOUR KIDS HAVE SOMETHING TO DO IN BETWEEN GAMES. OR IF YOU NEED TO TAKE A WALK AND GET SOME EXERCISE OR ENJOY THE REST OF THE SITE. SO BY AND LARGE, THAT'S, THAT WAS SORT OF THE DESIGN DIRECTION HERE. AND LIKE ADRIAN SAID, THERE'S A. YEAH. SO THIS IS SORT OF AN ORIENTATION OF WHAT THE ENTIRE SITE LOOKS LIKE. AGAIN, NORTH IS TO THE RIGHT, BUT YOU SEE THAT, MAGENTA LINE THAT'S GOING SORT OF NORTH SOUTH AND OR, YOU KNOW, UP AND DOWN THAT PLAY AN ACTIVE CONNECTOR. THAT'S REALLY THE SORT OF HUB OF ALL THE ACTIVITY. SO WE'VE GOT PARKING, PARKING FIELDS AT THE PERIPHERY, EASY ACCESS TO THOSE, AND THEN ALL THE SORT OF, AMENITIES ARE CENTERED AROUND THAT PUBLIC PLAZA AND THE PROMENADE ITSELF. SO IT WANTS TO FEEL AS MUCH LIKE, YOU KNOW, A PUBLIC PARK WOULD WELL ORGANIZED SOMETHING. A PUBLIC PARK IN NEW ALBANY.

IT'S WELL ORGANIZED, IT'S BEAUTIFUL, THINGS MAKE SENSE. AND THEY'RE SORT OF A HUB OF COMMUNITY ACTIVITY THERE AT THE CENTER OF IT. AND THAT'S REALLY SORT OF THE, I THINK, YOU KNOW, BIG TAKEAWAY HERE AND SOMETHING THAT THE SITE OFFERED US AS WE WERE PUTTING IT TOGETHER. YEAH.

WE CAN RUN THROUGH THE SLIDES. SO, AGAIN, WE'RE SORT OF AT A SCHEMATIC LEVEL OF WILL YOU GET

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AND THIS, EASTERN PLAZA MIGHT BE FOR MORE, KID PLAY, CHILD PLAY, IF YOU WILL, A SPLASH PAD IN THE CENTER OF THAT PLAZA, WHICH COULD BE TURNED OFF RIGHT BEFORE A FOOTBALL GAME. SO SOMETHING VERY EASY TO WALK OVER. EASY, EASY, EASY TO MAINTAIN. AND THEN D IS ANOTHER PLAYGROUND LIKE ADRIAN MENTIONED, COULD, YOU KNOW, FEEL A LOT LIKE TAYLOR OR COULD HAVE ITS OWN SORT OF SET OF CHARACTERISTICS AND THEN ROOM DOWN HERE FOR A SKATE PARK OR SIMILAR SORT OF FEATURE. SO THOSE ARE THE HEADLINES ALONG THAT ACTIVATOR SPINE THERE.

JUST A FEW SORT OF CHARACTER IMAGES. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE WITH SCOOCH BACK REAL QUICK, ADRIAN MENTIONED THESE ENTRY FEATURES. WE REALLY WANTED THIS TO HAVE SORT OF A CAMPUS LIKE FEEL GATEWAYS AT EVERY IMPORTANT CORNER. SO AT THESE THREE CORNERS IN PARTICULAR, AND AT THE MAIN PROMENADE HERE, CONNECTING TO THE HAMLET, THERE'S REALLY A CELEBRATED SENSE OF ENTRY. AND SO EACH OF THOSE HAS SORT OF A DIFFERENT CHARACTERISTIC. SO, THIS ONE ON THE SOUTHEAST IS A SORT OF, YOU KNOW, KIND OF VERY COLORFUL LANDSCAPE AND MEADOW PLANTING GATEWAY IN AND OUT COULD BE A BUTTERFLY GARDEN, IF YOU WILL. ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER WHERE WE HAVE THE WETLAND POND, THE IDEA THAT THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF DECKING OR BRIDGING BOARD WALKING THAT, INTERACTS WITH, THAT BODY OF WATER. THIS IS THIS VIEW OF THAT CENTRAL PLAZA. YOU COULD IMAGINE, YOU KNOW, TWO, THIS IS JUST CONCEPTUAL ARCHITECTURE.

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SO, I KIND OF, I'D LOVE THE IDEA OF THE, THE ONE MILE LOOP AND THE DIFFERENT PLACES FOR FOLKS TO WALK AND KIND OF SPEND TIME AROUND THERE. THE, I GUESS I WOULD WANT TO REVISIT THE SKATE PARK. I THINK SINCE THE REVOLUTION HAS HAPPENED, I DON'T SEE MANY SKATEBOARDS AROUND TOWN ANYMORE. I WOULD HATE TO BUILD THIS BEAUTIFUL SKATE PARK. AND THEN, IT'S KIND OF AN UNUSED SPACE. I'M NOT SURE HOW WE CAN GAUGE INTEREST TO SEE IF, IF IT'S GOING TO BE USED. THAT'D BE FANTASTIC. YEAH. AS FAR AS I KNOW, THERE ARE NO SKATEBOARDS OUT THERE. I KNOW THERE'S ONE WHEELED THINGS, BUT PROBABLY CAN'T USE THOSE ON A SKATE PARK. YEAH. AND THEN WE COULD ASK DOUBLING IN NEWARK. I MEAN, YOU HAVE PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL SKATE PARKS AS THEY'RE STILL BEING UTILIZED. I THINK THAT'S I WOULD JUST WANT TO REVISIT IF IT'S GOING TO BE USED FOR SURE. I KNOW THAT THAT GROUP KIND OF, THEY MIGHT HAVE AGED OUT OR MOVED. YEAH, YEAH.

BUT I, YOU KNOW, I LIKE THE IDEA OF VARIETY, SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T OFFER ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE CITY CURRENTLY, LIKE THE SPLASH PAD AND THE SKATE PARK AND, BUT YEAH, I GUESS GOING BACK TO THE PHASING, I KNOW IT, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE GREAT IN MY OPINION IF WE COULD, WHEN THE BALL FIELDS ARE OPEN, THIS WHOLE KIND OF, THIS IS KIND OF A NATURAL DELINEATION THAT SPLITS THE SITE. SO TO TRY TO GET OUR PIECE AT LEAST OF T SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE PARK OPEN AT THE SAME TIME. SO THE ENTRY IS GOING TO LOOK REALLY NICE FOR THE BASEBALL FIELDS.

AND, YOU KNOW, JUST THE TAYLOR FARM LOOK OVER OVER THERE. BUT IF DEPENDING ON HOW THE TIMING WORKS, AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD KIND OF PULL TOGETHER FAIRLY QUICKLY, THAT WOULD BE ONE OF MY SUGGESTIONS JUST TO KIND OF DELINEATE IT, KIND OF SPLIT IT IN HALF THERE. I DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING ABOUT SKATING RIBBON. I LOVE THE IDEA OF SKATING RIBBON. I'M JUST SAYING WE GOT A MILE. TOLEDO HAS A WHAT IS THAT RIBBON? IT'S LIKE ICE SKATING. IT'S LIKE ON YOUR PANTS. IT'S LIKE AN ICE SKATING TRAIL. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. OKAY.

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AND THAT WOULD BE KIND OF JUST AS AN IDEA. IT LOOKS LIKE THERE MIGHT BE JUST ENOUGH, YOU KNOW, LAND RIGHT THERE FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. MAYBE IN THE SUMMER. IT'S A SITTING AREA. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU DO, BUT WE DID AT ONE POINT HAVE LIKE A BALL HOCKEY OR LIKE A OUTDOOR LACROSSE, IN ONE OF THOSE AREAS, JUST AGAIN, TRYING TO THINK OF THINGS THAT DON'T EXIST IN THE COMMUNITY ANY RIGHT NOW. I THINK FROM A WINTER PERSPECTIVE, I DO HEAR A LOT ABOUT SOME SORT OF ICE SKATING THING. SO I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. WHY AREN'T WE DOING AN ICE SKATING RINK? YEAH, AMPHITHEATER. WE WILL BE BRINGING SOMETHING, I THINK, AT THE NEXT MEETING. NO, IT'S NOT BEFORE YOU FOR AN ICE RINK POSSIBILITY FOR NEXT THIS COMING WINTER. WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE CHALLENGES WITH THAT WHEN WE PRESENT THAT TO YOU. BUT YOU KNOW, MAYBE THIS BECOMES A MORE PERMANENT HOME FOR THAT. IF WE DO SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, MIGHT BE MORE COST EFFECTIVE ONE YEAR, TWO YEARS IN THE VILLAGE CENTER, BUT YOU COULD MOVE IT UP HERE IN THE FUTURE. WE DID. AND I CAN COME BACK TO THAT DIAGRAM WHENEVER YOU WANT. I DID WANT TO LET YOU KNOW JUST FOR THIS DISCUSSION PURPOSE. WE DID LIKE OUTLINE SOME POSSIBLE OPTIONS FROM PHASE FOR PHASING FOR YOU.

THE FIRST OPTION BEING THAT WE DO THE LIKE THE ENTIRE LOOP IN THE ENTRY FEATURES. SO LIKE COMPLETE THE PERIMETER. ESSENTIALLY OPTION TWO WOULD KIND OF AGAIN, CHOOSE YOUR OWN ADVENTURE IF YOU WANTED TO DO OPTION ONE PLUS ANY OF THOSE AMENITIES TO THE NORTH OF THE DRIVE. AND THEN OPTION THREE WOULD BE TO, YOU KNOW, WE DO IT ALL AT ONCE. SO JUST FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES, THESE WERE THREE WAYS WE WERE LOOKING AT IT. BUT, IF YOU WANT TO PARE THAT BACK OPTION ONE COULD BE JUST THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE SITE AS WELL. ADRIAN, I HAVE A QUESTION. I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CAPITAL PROJECTS, LIKE WHAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT WHICH OPTIONS WE'RE GOING TO DO. IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY WE HAVE TO SPEND ON THIS AND WHAT THESE THINGS WOULD COST. YEAH. SO, YOU KNOW, THIS PROJECT KIND OF CAME IN A DIFFERENT WAY THAN A LOT OF A LOT OF CAPITAL PROJECTS DO. SO USUALLY WE WILL, WE HAVE A SCOPE OF A PROJECT. WE'LL DESIGN IT TO A LEVEL THAT WE CAN GET A COST ESTIMATE AND WE BRING THAT TO THE CAPITAL WORKSHOP. THIS BECAUSE IT HAPPENED OUTSIDE OF THAT NORMAL CYCLE. WE'RE NOT TO THAT POINT YET. SO IF IT'S IMPORTANT TO TRY TO TIME A PROJECT, A CITY PROJECT, AT A TIME WHEN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT OPENED SOMETHING, WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THAT PROJECT WOULD INCLUDE NOW SO THAT WE CAN DESIGN IT AND THEN GET WE WE WOULD TRY TO GET A BUDGET NUMBER FOR YOU FOR THE 27 BUDGET. OKAY. WE'RE THIS IS JUST FALLING BECAUSE OF THE SITUATION WITH. THIS IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN A NORMAL PROJECT. SO THE GOAL IS TO HAVE IT BE JUST SORT OF CONCURRENT WITH THE SCHOOL, SORT OF LIKE WHAT, WHAT WORKS FROM A DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT? THAT'S THE QUESTION RIGHT NOW. NOT NECESSARILY. WELL, I THINK WHAT CAN WE SPEND ON IT RIGHT NOW? YES. YEAH. OKAY. SO THE QUESTION RIGHT NOW IS, ONE, IS THE TIMING IMPORTANT TO COUNCIL OR NOT? YEAH. DO YOU WANT TO TRY TO TIME IT WHEN THE SCHOOL OPENS SOMETHING. BECAUSE THEN WE HAVE TO ACT FAST. IF THAT DOESN'T MATTER THEN WE HAVE MORE TIME. OKAY. THEN TWO, IF WE ARE GOING TO DO A PROJECT, WHAT SHOULD THAT PROJECT CONSIST OF? SO WE CAN DESIGN SOMETHING TO A LEVEL THAT WE CAN GIVE TO A CONSTRUCTION MANAGER, SO THEY CAN GIVE US AN ESTIMATE OF WHAT IT MIGHT COST. OKAY. ONE MORE. SORRY, ONE MORE THING. SO, I KNOW I SECOND COUNCIL MEMBER KISSED HIS IDEA WITH THE SKATE PARK MAYBE BEING KIND OF BLASÉ. I DO KNOW I LIKE IN THE, IN DUBLIN'S OUTSIDE RECREATIONAL AREA, THERE'S ALWAYS PEOPLE WALKING AROUND WITH THEIR CELL PHONES, WHICH I THINK IS THE YOUTH ARE REALLY INTO RIGHT NOW. LIKE DOING POKEMON GO OR LIKE GEOCACHING. AND I THINK THAT THOSE, THOSE AREAS AROUND THERE. AND I PERSONALLY LOVE THE SECRET GARDEN, I WOULD HAVE IT ON THE MAP AND IN THE FACILITY. I THINK THOSE TYPE OF USES COULD BE REALLY, REALLY IMPACTFUL.

SORRY. YEAH. I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT THOSE KIND OF THINGS AND THOSE ENTRY FEATURES, THOSE

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LIKE INSTEAD OF JUST COMING AND SEEING A BASEBALL FIELD. RIGHT. AND THOSE DETAILS, I THINK WHAT WE'VE LEARNED, ESPECIALLY IN NEW ALBANY, IS, IS WHAT MAKES THESE PARKS SPECIAL AND DIFFERENT AND UNIQUE THAN PARKS YOU SEE IN OTHER COMMUNITIES. YOU BACK TO THE FIRST SLIDE.

SURE. OR ONE OF THE FIRST ONES TO GET A SENSE OF. THAT'S FINE. I THINK THAT WHEN WE, WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THE PHASING OF WHAT'S GOING TO GO ON, I THINK THAT TRYING TO INCORPORATE SOME OF THIS IN HERE WITH THE BALL FIELDS, WOULD BE IMPORTANT, AT FIRST PHASE. ANOTHER PART OF THE FIRST PHASE, I THINK, IS THIS IS GOING TO BE A REAL DESTINATION IN THE COMMUNITY FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE WALKING THAT ONE MILE TRAIL. I LOOK AT TAYLOR FARMS AND THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WALKING OUT THERE USING THE PLAY STRUCTURE AS WELL. AND PARKING IS A CONSIDERABLE ISSUE.

WE KNOW OUT THERE, AND I KNOW YOU HAVE PARKING PLANNED HERE, BUT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PHASE TWO. I THINK YOU NEED TO INCORPORATE SOME OF THIS PARKING INTO PHASE ONE, BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE GOING TO UNDERESTIMATE HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO ACCESS THIS. AND I DON'T WANT TO BE IN A SITUATION LIKE TAYLOR FARMS, WHERE THEY HAVE NO PLACE TO PARK. AND IF WE INCORPORATE THESE IN UNDER PHASE ONE, SOMEHOW IT WILL ALLEVIATE ANY ISSUES WITH THAT.

I THINK A SKATE PARK, IF WE HAVE ONE AT KITZMILLER, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TWO IN THE CITY.

SOME OTHER PURPOSE FOR IT, WHETHER IT'S ICE RINK OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, IS GREAT.

I THINK IF YOU TALK ABOUT SENIORS, YOU MENTIONED BOCCE BALL DOESN'T TAKE A LOT OF SPACE, BUT IT'S VERY POPULAR AND WE HAVE 255 AND OLDER COMMUNITIES BASICALLY ABUTTING BOTH SIDES OF THIS. RIGHT. AND, SO I THINK THAT WITHIN PHASE ONE, GETTING THE, THIS TRAIL DONE ALL THE WAY AROUND AND MAYBE INCORPORATING A LITTLE BIT OF THIS AND IDEALLY SOME, EVEN IF IT'S TEMPORARY PARKING OVER THERE, OKAY. BECAUSE I DON'T THINK, I DON'T THINK WE WANT TO UNDERESTIMATE THAT GIVEN WHAT MAY GO ON WITH IT. I MEAN, ONE THING WE COULD DO IS I THINK WE HAVE LIKE KIND OF TWO ENDS, RIGHT? LIKE JUST MAYBE A LOOP SOUTH OF THE PHASE AND THIS WOULD BE A LITTLE MORE INVOLVED. I MEAN, WE COULD DESIGN ALL OF IT TO A 30% LEVEL AND GET AN ESTIMATE OF PROBABLE COST AND BRING THAT TO YOU. AND YEAH, I MEAN, IS THAT YOU SORT OF HAVE A MENU OF THINGS TO OFFER. HOW MUCH DOES A I LOVE A MENU? YEAH. LIKE HOW MUCH FOR THIS? HOW MUCH FOR THAT ONE FROM COLUMN A, ONE FROM COLUMN B? YEAH. THE BEST WAY TO LOOK AT COST PERSPECTIVE. ADRIAN, THE A COUPLE QUESTIONS, I GUESS ALONG THESE LINES. WHAT, WHAT POTENTIAL COST SAVINGS WOULD THERE BE OVERALL IF WE DID IT ALL AT ONE TIME VERSUS MULTIPLE PHASES. SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING YOU COULD OUTLINE FOR US. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO KNOW THAT RIGHT NOW, BUT, THERE WILL BE A COST SAVINGS OF GRADING EVERYTHING AT ONE TIME VERSUS OVER, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL YEARS. I THINK THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS GONE THROUGH SOME OF THOSE SAME EXERCISES OF LIKE, DO YOU DO PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO OR DO YOU TRY TO DO IT ALL AT ONCE? IF WE'RE AT A POINT NOW IS WE JUST, WE NEED TO DESIGN SOMETHING TO GET TO, TO ESTIMATE. AND SO WHAT IS IT WE WANT TO FOCUS ON? IS IT, YOU KNOW, DOING IT ALL? AND THEN WE HAVE THIS MENU SO COUNCIL CAN CHOOSE FROM THAT MOVING FORWARD.

OR DO WE WANT TO JUST PARE IT DOWN AND TAKE THE TAYLOR FARM APPROACH, WHERE WE JUST INTENTIONALLY PHASE IT OVER SEVERAL YEARS? AND THEN AS, AS IT RELATES TO THE SCHOOL, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ADDITIONAL CONVERSATIONS THEY'VE BEEN HAVING, BUT JUST AS I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT THIS, I KNOW THAT THEIR, THEIR PROJECT WAS A TWO PHASE PROJECT, NOT NECESSARILY FOR THE ATHLETIC COMPLEX, BUT JUST GENERALLY WHEN THE BOND WAS PASSED, IT WAS DO THE, DO THE BALL FIELDS ALONG WITH THE, THE SCHOOL BUILDING THAT THEY'RE BUILDING.

BUT THAT WAS ALSO WITH THE EXPECTATION THAT THE BALL FIELDS WOULD HAVE BEEN BUILT PROBABLY ALREADY. SO, I'M JUST WONDERING IF, IF THEY'RE GETTING TO THE POINT IN THESE DISCUSSIONS TO WHERE IT'S MAYBE, HEY, PHASE ONE IS KIND OF BLEEDING INTO PHASE TWO AND ARE

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KNOWING THAT THIS IS A MAJOR PEDESTRIAN AND CYCLING PATH NOW BECAUSE OF THIS. AND SO, YEAH, WE'RE THINKING ABOUT WHAT THOSE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS COULD BE. AND THE NEW ALBANY ROAD ONE WOULD INCLUDE ON STREET PARKING THAT THAT IS A RUNWAY IN TERMS OF WIDTH OF A ROAD. AND THERE'S CERTAINLY WAYS TO CAPTURE SOME SPACE FOR ON STREET PARKING. AND WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE. SO JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE OR THE TUNNEL. I THINK WE MIGHT TALK ABOUT THAT IN SEPTEMBER. YEAH. LET'S GET BACK TO THAT. SO I MEAN, I DON'T, I'M, I DON'T WANT TO PLANT ANY SEEDS OR, OR SAY ANYTHING YOU GUYS AREN'T THINKING, BUT MAYBE IT'S A 30% LEVEL. SO EARLY LEVEL OF DESIGN ON ALL OF IT BRING BACK. I THINK THAT FEELS GOOD. THOSE WOULD BE HIGH LEVEL COST ESTIMATES. SO THEY WON'T BE FINALS. YEAH. BUT THEN THAT MIGHT HELP YOU BACK IN. OKAY, SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT HOW FAST THAT CAN HAPPEN BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW. THAT WILL TAKE SOME TIME TO GET TO. AND THEN THE CONSTRUCTION, YOU KNOW, CONSTRUCTION MANAGER WILL NEED SOME TIME. I DON'T KNOW IF WE'LL HAVE A GOOD NUMBER FOR 27 BUDGET, BUT THIS MIGHT BE A SITUATION WHEN WE BRING BACK A APPROPRIATION AMENDMENT TO YOU, AT A KIND OF OFF BUDGET CYCLE TIME, DEPENDING ON DO DO, DO YOU GUYS FEEL IT'S IMPORTANT TO, ACCELERATE THIS TO HAVE SOMETHING OPEN FOR WHEN THE, THE BALL FIELDS SPRING OF 28. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT VERY MUCH. YEAH. SO WE NEED TO AT LEAST COME UP WITH SOMETHING FOR THAT. AND, AND I'M, I MEAN, I'M OKAY TO GO AHEAD AND PUT SOME BUDGET NUMBER IN THERE FOR 27. I MEAN, WE CAN ALWAYS AMEND IT OR, YOU KNOW, IF WE NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE OR LESS WHATEVER. SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE THE WORK DONE TO GET A NUMBER BY 27. BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'LL BE WORKING TOWARDS. BUT WE'LL TALK THROUGH THAT AND THEN WE'LL WORK WITH BRUCE LEE, ON WHAT THEIR TIMING MIGHT BE TO ESTIMATE SOMETHING. OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S IT FOR THE ATHLETIC CAMPUS. YEAH. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. YES. THANK YOU. THIS OBVIOUSLY IS A LOT OF WORK AND IT'S EXCITING, REALLY, REALLY GREAT PROJECTS. BUT CHELSEA'S GOING TO TALK ABOUT IS AN AMAZING PROJECT AS WELL. SO WE'RE REALLY LUCKY TO GET TO BRING THIS TO YOU.

OKAY. YEAH. THANK YOU MAYOR. MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL, THIS PORTION OF THE PRESENTATION IS TO FOCUS ON UPDATES FOR OUR PLANNING FOR THE POTENTIAL KITZMILLER PARK.

[01:55:09]

A LOT OF THAT REPORT WILL HAVE SOME OF THIS INFORMATION, IN IT THAT WE'RE GOING OVER THIS EVENING. AND AS ADRIAN MENTIONED, WE ARE MEETING WITH OUR SENIOR CONNECTIONS GROUP THIS THURSDAY TO GET THEIR FEEDBACK, ON CITY PARKS IN GENERAL, JUST KIND OF WHAT IS THE CITY DOING? WELL, WHAT COULD WE DO BETTER? AND WHAT ARE WE COMPLETELY MISSING? AND AS PART OF OUR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT FOR BOTH THE OPEN HOUSE AND THE ONLINE SURVEY, WE ASKED PARTICIPANTS WHERE THEY LIVE. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, BASICALLY PEOPLE WERE PARTICIPATING FROM ALL OVER THE CITY. SO THAT WAS PRETTY EXCITING. NOT JUST CERTAIN POCKETS OF THE CITY, BUT, EVERYONE FROM ALL OVER. AND WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO ARE YOU SPEAKING, MATT KELLOGG WITH SK. THANK YOU. SO I WANT TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON, SORT OF WHERE WE, WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THIS PROJECT. JEFF AND I WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE, LIKE THE, THE PARKS FRAMEWORK PLAN IN 2020. YOU KNOW, WE'RE SORT OF LOOKING AT THIS IN A NEW LIGHT, THE PUBLIC SPACE THAT'S WITHIN THE CITY AND BRINGING ALL OF THESE IDEAS, SKATE PARK, PICKLEBALL COURTS. AND THEN THERE'S THE EVOLUTION OF, OF WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE DISCOVER SITE THE ATHLETIC CAMPUS. AND SO REALLY, THIS IS AN AMAZING SYNERGY BETWEEN TWO PUBLIC SPACES WHERE WE CAN REALLY FOCUS ON DESIGNING AN ACTIVE RECREATION PARK, WHICH IS THE ATHLETIC CAMPUS. AND THEN SOME OF THE THINGS WE LEARNED THROUGH THE PROCESS, SURVEY OF EXISTING CONDITIONS, AND ALSO WHAT WE'LL SHARE WITH YOU IN THE PUBLIC FEEDBACK MAYBE IS MORE OF A PASSIVE PARK. SO IT'S AN AMAZING SYNERGY BETWEEN THESE TWO SPACES WHERE MAYBE BEFORE IN OUR PARKS FRAMEWORK PLAN, IT WAS MIXING BOTH OF THEM IN ONE PLACE. SO WE WENT THROUGH A NUMBER OF EXERCISES DURING THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. ONE WAS A VISUAL PREFERENCE SURVEY WHICH WE'RE SHOWING HERE. ANOTHER WAS, SORT OF YOUR PERFECT LIKE, DESCRIBE YOUR PERFECT DAY IN A PARK. THE THIRD ONE THAT WE HAD WAS A DESIGN YOUR OWN PARK. AND THEN AS PART OF SORT OF THE SIGN IN, WE ALSO ASKED PEOPLE, HOW DO WE WANT TO GET TO THE SITE? OR HOW DO YOU EXPECT TO GET TO THE SITE? AND SO WITH THE VISUAL SURVEY, IT WAS PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT MORE, MORE SPECIFIC OR, DIRECTING, IN THE RESPONSES THAT WERE PROVIDED, WHICH WAS, WE WANT IT TO BE PASSIVE. WE WANT IT TO BE A PERSONAL RETREAT. WE WANT IT TO BE NATURAL. WE WANT IT TO BE SORT OF SPONTANEOUS AND ALSO LIKE THIS IMMERSIVE, IMMERSIVE AND SORT OF ALL AGES EXPERIENCE, IN THE DESIGNER PARK ACTIVITY.

AGAIN, WE OF OUTLINED THE PROGRAM THAT PEOPLE COULD USE WITHIN THE PARK. AND A LOT OF THAT WAS BASED ON THE PREVIOUS USES THAT WERE DESCRIBED IN THE PARKS FRAMEWORK PLAN. SO WE DID HAVE A SKATE PARK IN THERE. WE DID HAVE, AN ADVENTURE COURSE. WE DID POOL THE PICKLEBALL COURTS OFF OF THERE BECAUSE WE ALREADY DO HAVE PICKLEBALL COURTS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

BUT IT ALLOWED THE, THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO, PLACE THESE PIECES, THE PROGRAM PIECES AT SCALE ON THE PARK WHERE THEY, WHERE THEY THOUGHT WOULD, WOULD BE MOST INTERESTING TO THEM. SO IT WAS BOTH A SELECTION OF THE PROGRAM FOR THE PARK AND ALSO WHERE ARE

[02:00:06]

BUT THEN THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME LONG TERM MANAGEMENT OF THAT TO REESTABLISH A HEALTHY AND DIVERSE ECOSYSTEM. SO WE'VE HEARD THE FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY, WHICH IS, A LITTLE BIT OF, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO SHOW IN THE PARK PROGRAMING, IN RESPONSE TO WHAT THE COMMUNITY

[02:05:03]

SO AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO FLIP THROUGH A SERIES OF, OF OPTIONS. AND I THINK YOU ARE GOING TO GIVE OUT A SHEET, WITH THE SAME IMAGES FOR, FOR COMMENT AND RESPONSE. WHAT IS INTRIGUING, WHAT'S COMPELLING? WHAT DO YOU THINK IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE COMMUNITY'S AMBITIONS AND USE FOR THIS PARK? AND THIS IS ALL PREDESIGNED. YES. YEAH. WE'RE NOT GOING TO UNVEIL PLANS, REDESIGN THOUGHTS ABOUT PROGRAM. YES. YEAH. SO WE AREN'T GOING TO BE SHOWING A PLAN. WE'RE STILL IN DEVELOPMENT, STILL WORKING THROUGH DEFINING WHAT THE PROGRAMING IS FOR THIS PARK.

AND THAT'LL BE SHARED AT THE CAPITAL WORKSHOP. SO WE'VE PHRASED THIS AS LIKE PASSIVE PLACEMAKING. SO THIS IS GOING TO BE A PARK. I THINK WE'VE ENVISIONED THIS AND WHAT WE'VE HEARD FROM, FROM THE RESIDENTS IS, VERY SIMILAR TO, TO TAYLOR FARM, BUT ALSO HOW DO WE MAKE IT DIFFERENT? AND IT'S THROUGH SORT OF THESE MOMENTS OF PASSIVE PLACEMAKING, WHETHER IT'S A HAMMOCK GROVE OR A PLACE WHERE YOU CAN PICK UP A BOOK AND THEN HANG OUT IN THE HAMMOCK GROVE. OR IT'S PORCH SWINGS OVERLOOKING A MEADOW OR PORCH SWINGS OVERLOOKING A WETLAND, OR A COMMUNAL TABLE FOR THE COMMUNITY TO GATHER AROUND WETLAND BOARDWALKS SIMILAR TO TAYLOR FARM. MAYBE THEY START TO TAKE ON SOME DIFFERENT FEATURES, LIKE, THEY'RE SLIGHTLY ELEVATED, BUT ALSO PLACES SIMILAR TO ROSE RUN PHASE ONE, WHERE KIDS CAN INTERACT WITH THE WATER. PLATFORMS FOR GATHERING, WHETHER IN THE WOODS OR ADJACENT TO A WETLAND. BUT THEN ALSO PLAY FEATURES. SO IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE FULLY ENGAGED WITH A, WITH A PLAYGROUND AND HAVE SAFETY SURFACE. MAYBE IT'S A PLACE WHERE KIDS GET A LITTLE BIT MORE DIRTY. AND THEN ALSO SOME INTERACTIVE ELEMENTS, MUSICAL ELEMENTS, OR, OR WAYS TO SORT OF UNDERSTAND AND DIGEST THE, THE LANDSCAPE AND NATURE AROUND YOU. AND THEN MAYBE, MAYBE WE GO TO AN EXTREME AND THERE'S SOME FUN ELEMENTS LIKE, COLLECT THE LARGEST COLLECTION OF FAIRY DOORS AND, IN THE NORTHEAST OR, OR IT'S A POETRY WALK, WHICH, SORT OF BUILDS ON THE, THE PILLARS OF ALBANY, WITH ARTS. OR THERE'S SCULPTURE THAT EXISTS EITHER AS A PLAY STRUCTURE OR, OR AN OBJECT IN THE LANDSCAPE, OR IT'S A VERTICAL ELEMENT THAT YOU CAN CLIMB AND SORT OF TAKE IN THE LANDSCAPE AROUND YOU. PLACES FOR REST, SIMPLE PLACES SIMILAR TO THE SWING, BUT PLACES TO SORT OF DIGEST THE LANDSCAPE AROUND YOU. BUT ALSO LIKE MAKE THIS A ROBUST AND, AND AMAZING PLACE FOR THE COMMUNITY AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO, TO LEARN FROM AND UNDERSTAND THE, THE LANDSCAPE THAT THEY SEE AROUND THEM. SO, THAT'S OUR FEEDBACK OR OUR UPDATE ON THE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK. AND THEN, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE SHARING WITH YOU GUYS, A SHEET OF ALL OF THE, ALL THE PROGRAM ELEMENTS THAT WE JUST WALKED THROUGH FOR YOUR FEEDBACK AND CONSIDERATION. OKAY. SO WE HAVE, IT'S SORT OF AN ACTIVITY, THAT WE'D LIKE TO DISTRIBUTE TO YOU AND HAVE YOU, KIND OF INDICATE WHAT OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE MENTIONED THAT YOU LIKE OR DON'T LIKE. AND THEN IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER IDEAS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE FOR US TO CONSIDER AS WE'RE DESIGNING THE PARK, YOU CAN WRITE THEM ON THE BACK. YOU CAN PUT YOUR NAME ON IT OR DON'T PUT YOUR NAME ON IT. IT'S UP TO YOU. BUT REALLY THE ULTIMATE GOAL FOR US THIS EVENING IS, TO UPDATE YOU AND GET YOUR FEEDBACK AND THEN TAKE YOUR FEEDBACK AND THE COMMUNITY'S FEEDBACK AND DEVELOP A PLAN TO PRESENT TO YOU IN SEPTEMBER AT THE WORKSHOP. AND ALONG WITH THE PLAN, WE WOULD HAVE A COST ESTIMATE FOR YOU AS WELL. AND JUST AS A REMINDER, HOW MANY ACRES IS THE PARK AND HOW MUCH IS SUBJECT TO ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT? SO THE SITE IS, THE SITE IS 30 ACRES. WE CAN DEVELOP WITHIN, WITHIN THE DEED RESTRICTED BOUNDARY. IT'S PRETTY LIMITED. THIS IS ALSO AN OLDER DEED RESTRICTION THAT DIDN'T HAVE AS MANY RESTRICTIONS AS WHAT TAYLOR

[02:10:01]

AND IF THIS IS WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS AND THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE SHOULD DO, AND IT IS GORGEOUS. BUT I WAS EXPECTING SOMETHING VERY DIFFERENT FROM TAYLOR PARK, AND I FEEL LIKE THIS IS VERY SIMILAR TO TAYLOR PARK. I THOUGHT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THIS BEING LESS PASSIVE AND HAVING MORE OF THE SPLASH PARK AND THE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT AND THAT SORT OF STUFF. THAT WAS THE OTHER THING I THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT KITZMILLER WAS GOING TO BE, WAS A SIGNIFICANT CONTRAST TO TAYLOR PARK. IF THAT'S AGAIN, IF THAT'S WHAT THE FEEDBACK OF THE COMMUNITY IS, THIS IS BEAUTIFUL STUFF. BUT I JUST NEED TO SAY THAT BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT AT ALL. SO I THINK I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE GOT THAT FEELING. I, I MEAN, I THINK I WAS ONE OF THE ONES THAT WAS LIKE, MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A, WHAT DID I SAY? LIKE A PLASTIC PLAYGROUND, LIKE, RIGHT? LIKE ONES THAT THEY WOULD LIKE LET US HAVE IN THE 90S. RIGHT. SORT OF LIKE A VERY ACTIVE SPACE. BUT I, I HEAR THE RESIDENTS, OTHER, I KNOW WE'RE DOING SO MUCH LIKE THERE IS A LOT GOING ON OUT THERE. AND I KNOW THAT THERE IS A LOT OF TREE REMOVAL. THERE'S A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, NEED FOR SORT OF REHABILITATION OF THAT AREA OUT THERE. AND, I, I AGREE, I, THIS IS NOT WHAT I WAS EXPECTING, BUT I'M JUST LIKE, SO I'M SO INSPIRED BY THE PLACES OF REPOSE AND THE OPPORTUNITIES TO CONNECT AND, SORT OF BE IN NATURE MORE LIKE TAYLOR FARM

[02:15:03]

SO KIND OF HAVING A, ANOTHER VERSION OF TAYLOR, A NORTH TAYLOR, PER SE, BUT TAYLOR'S KIND OF FOCUSED ON THE WALKING, YOU KNOW, IT'S LARGER, IT'S GOT THE BIGGER LOOPS YOU CAN STRING TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, THREE, FOUR MILE WALK. THIS IS DIFFERENT BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE QUITE THE, THE, YOU KNOW, THE ACREAGE TO DO THAT IN, YOU KNOW, A BIG CHUNK OF THIS IS THE WETLANDS.

SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME BOARDWALKS. BUT WHEREAS TAYLOR'S MORE, YOU'RE MOVING IN NATURE, THIS IS GOING TO BE MORE LIKE YOUR, YOU KNOW, JUST MARINATING. MARINATING. YEAH.

AND THAT'S WHY I LIKE THE IDEA OF, YOU KNOW, THE BOOK CART AND JUST THE AREAS THAT YOU CAN JUST BE. YEAH, EVEN THOUGH WE FOUND OUT IT'S NOT VERY PRETTY, IT'S A D I'M NOT SURE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT UP THERE. WE GOTTA GET TO AN A. I DON'T KNOW IF I WANT TO EVEN BE THERE NOW.

RIGHT. LIKE, YEAH, IT'S YOU SHOULDN'T BE A REAL I THINK IF YOU PUT ONE OF THOSE STATUES IN THERE, OUR GRADE WILL GO UP. YEAH, LIKE AT LEAST TWO POINTS. I LOOKED AT THE VERTICAL STRUCTURE, LIKE, WHAT DO WE WANT TO LOOK AT? LIKE, RIGHT. YEAH, RIGHT AT THE BACK OF COURTYARD HERE. YEAH. I BELIEVE IN YOU. LET'S STAY LOW. YEAH, THAT WAS MY LAST ONE WAS THE VERTICAL STRUCTURE. BUT YEAH, I, I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF THE, A MORE PASSIVE PARK, TO COMPLIMENT TAYLOR AND THEN WE HAVE THE ACTIVE PARK KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE. ALL JOKING ASIDE, THE VERTICAL PART, IF YOU WERE STARING TOWARDS THE ABERCROMBIE CAMPUS WHERE, YOU KNOW, IT'S A LOT OF GREEN. YEAH. ROOFTOPS. YEAH, IT'S A LOT MORE. YEAH. I HAVE A 1A1B. SO IF YOU'RE DONE WITH YOUR DISCUSSION. OH NO, NO, NO, I'M GOOD, I'M GOOD. IT'S BEAUTIFUL. IT'S JUST A LITTLE

[14. REPORTS OF CITY OFFICIALS]

[02:20:02]

THAT'S A GREAT SHOT OF THE SCHOOL CAMPUS. YEAH. SO IS THAT THE DAY TWO START. THAT WAS DAY TWO START THERE. YEAH. SO AGAIN, NEW ALBANY CONTINUES TO KIND OF BE THE THE HUB OF PELOTONIA. I THINK THE 404 ZIP CODE IS THE MOST ENTERED, ZIP CODE FOR PELOTONIA. THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SEE THE, THERE WERE FINISHES AT THE SCHOOL, THERE WERE STARTS AT THE SCHOOL, THERE WERE FINISHES. THE REST STOP AT BILLHEIMER. THERE WAS A FINISH AT ABERCROMBIE AND FITCH CAMPUS. SO, THANK YOU TO CHIEF FOR THE SUPPORT. THE POLICE, THE ROADS WERE SAFE. IT DIDN'T RAIN. WELL, IT RAINED A LITTLE BIT LATER. BUT ALL WEEKEND, IT WAS GREAT WEATHER FOR. AND A LITTLE COOLER THAN IT HAS BEEN. SO ALL IN ALL, IT WAS A VERY SUCCESSFUL WEEKEND. 80, I THINK 8100 RIDERS, IN TOTAL. AND THEN, THEY'LL RELEASE THE AMOUNT RAISED HERE PROBABLY THE NEXT 3 OR 4 WEEKS OR SO. OKAY, GREAT. THANKS FOR THE SLIDESHOW. ALL RIGHT. I MOVE THAT WE ADJOURN

[17. EXECUTIVE SESSION]

MACLEOD. YES. YES. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. YES. MY MISTAKE. MY MIC'S NOT ON. COUNCIL MEMBER.

YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. SHAW. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. WELCH. YES. I HAVE SEVEN YES VOTES TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 8:57 P.M. FOR THOSE WATCHING THE STREAM, WE WILL TURN OFF THE SOUND. THE CAMERAS WILL CONTINUE TO RUN OR YOU'LL GET A PAUSE.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.