Aug 12, 2026 Sustainability Advisory Board

[ I.Call to Order]

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GOOD EVENING. I'D LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER THE. WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 12TH, 2026 MEETING OF THE NEW ALBANY SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD MEETING AT. CALL IT 633. CAN STAFF PLEASE READ ROLL CALL MR. SCHUMACHER HERE. MR. BARNES HERE, MISS GALLO HERE, MISS. SCOTT. MR. HERE, MISS. COBB HERE. MR. BURAK HERE. MISS GRIFFITH HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. KISS. HERE. WE HAVE ROLL. GREAT.

[Additional Items]

[III. Action of Minutes: July 8, 2026 Meeting Minutes]

DO BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ANY CORRECTIONS TO THE MINUTES? IS IT JUNE OR JULY? BE JULY? RIGHT.

SORRY ABOUT THAT. THAT'S OKAY. I'M LIKE, ANCHORMAN, I'LL JUST READ WHATEVER YOU PUT ON THE THING. SO I'M RON BURGUNDY. SEEING NO CHANGES, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE JULY 8TH MEETING MINUTES. CAN I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. MISS GALLO? THANK YOU. MR. SCHUMACHER. YES, MR. BURNS.

YES, MISS GALLO, YES. MR. COCHRAN. YES, MISS. KOPPELMAN. YES. MR. BURAK. YES, MISS.

MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO THE

[IV. Additions or Corrections to Agenda]

[ VI. Business]

THE THE BIG SCREEN DOESN'T WORK RIGHT NOW, SO I'M HAVING TO BREAK OUT THE COKE BOTTLE GLASSES TO BE ABLE TO SEE ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE ROOM. SO FIRST OFF, WE HAVE OUR STUDENT LEADERS AND SUSTAINABILITY PRESENTATIONS MOTIONS. AND SO I'LL GO THROUGH EACH OF THEM INDIVIDUALLY. I DO WANT TO POINT OUT WE DO HAVE GAVIN BRIGGS IN THE AUDIENCE TODAY.

THANK YOU, GAVIN, FOR BEING HERE. WITH THAT. THIS IS A RECAP. SO HE PRESENTED, I BELIEVE, LAST THE LAST ADVISORY BOARD MEETING TO REPLACE THE DECREPIT BENCHES WITH NEW BENCHES OVER AT NEW ALBANY WOODS. AND SO HE WENT THROUGH A DETAILED PRESENTATION OF WHAT THAT WOULD ENTAIL, JUST ENGAGING BOY SCOUT TROOPS OR TROOP TO HELP WITH THE REMOVAL AND INSTALLATION. THEY'LL LEARN SKILLS DURING THAT PROCESS. THE TOTAL COST ACTUALLY WENT DOWN A LITTLE BIT SINCE LAST TIME, SO THE TOTAL COST WOULD BE $899.48, AND THE REQUESTED AMOUNT FROM THE GRANT IS $899.48. AND THAT'S WITHOUT TAX SINCE WE'RE A CITY ENTITY OR NONPROFIT.

YEAH. NOT TAXABLE ENTITY. SO IF CHAIR, I'LL OPEN IT UP TO YOU. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. NONE.

THEN BEFORE THE CHAIR WOULD BE THE MOTION TO MOVE TO APPROVE THE NEW ALBANY WOODS RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT AT THE REQUESTED AMOUNT. AND I APOLOGIZE BECAUSE IT SHOULD SAY $899.48. THE PRICE WAS THE OLD VERSION WITH A 10% CONTINGENCY BUDGET CONTINGENCY. SO IF IT GOES OVER A LITTLE BIT, IT WON'T HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE BOARD IF IT GOES OVER BY A PENNY. BUT IF IT DOES GO MORE THAN 10% OVER, THEN WE'D COME BACK TO THE BOARD. GREAT. I MOVE TO APPROVE THE NEW ALBANY WOODS RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT, THE REQUESTED AMOUNT OF $899.48 WITH A 10% BUDGET CONTINGENCY. SECOND, THANK YOU, MR. SCHUMACHER. YES, MR. BURNS, I'M GOING TO ABSTAIN JUST BECAUSE I'M ADVISING GAVIN NEWSOM. MISS GALLO. YES. MR. YES, MISS KOPPELMAN? YES. MR. YES. MOTION PASSES. GREAT. CONGRATULATIONS, GAVIN. YEAH. THESE AREN'T GOING TO BE USED TO REST DURING OUR RUNS THROUGH THE WOODS. RIGHT? ALL RIGHT. SET UP SNACKS.

YOU'RE NOT LETTING THEM GET THOSE WOODS, ARE YOU? IT'S THE HIGH SUMMER RUN WITH THE MOSQUITOES, JOY. AND THEN, GAVIN, I'LL WORK WITH YOU IN TERMS OF THE PURCHASING, SO DON'T PURCHASE ANYTHING YET. ALL RIGHT. SO NEXT UP WE HAVE NOEL GRIFFITHS PROJECT. WE ALL

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TOURS WORK WITH THE CITY AND NEW ALBANY PARKS TO TO APPLY FOR A COMMUNITY WASTE REDUCTION GRANT FOR 21 BILHEIMER PARK RECYCLING AND TRASH BINS. TOTAL PROJECT COST IS $17,000, $17,606.11. THE GRANT. THE AMOUNT THAT APPLIED FOR IS THE $12,404.22. SO THE REQUESTED AMOUNT FROM THE STUDENT LEADERS IN SUSTAINABILITY GRANT IS 5201 AND $89, AND THAT DOES INCLUDE THE 20% MATCH THAT SWACO REQUIRES FOR THEIR THEIR GRANT. SO IF THE BOARD. MR. CHAIR, IS THERE ANY ANY QUESTIONS? JUST JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE VERIFY FOR EVERYBODY KEEPING MY MIND STRAIGHT. SO WE'RE VOTING ON THIS AS PART OF THE BUDGET THIS YEAR. AND BECAUSE OF THE GRANT TIMING, BASICALLY WE'RE JUST SAYING THAT THAT 20% IS ENCUMBERED TO MATCH THAT, EVEN THOUGH IT MAY NOT GO OUT THE DOOR UNTIL THE OTHER TIME. CORRECT. CORRECT. QUESTIONS FROM ANYONE ELSE ON THE BOARD ABOUT THIS? SEEING NONE, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE COMMUNITY WASTE REDUCTION AND EDUCATION PROGRAM AT THE REQUESTED AMOUNT OF $5,201.89, WITH A 10% BUDGET CONTINGENCY. I SECOND THANK YOU, MR. CUSHION. MR. SCHUMACHER. YES, MR. BURNS, I THINK I'LL ABSTAIN AGAIN, MISS GALLO. YES. MR. KOSHER. YES. MISS KOPPELMAN? YES. MR. YES. MOTION PASSES.

GREAT. CONGRATULATIONS. FANTASTIC. AND JUST LIKE I TOLD GAVIN, I WILL GET TOGETHER TO DO THE PURCHASING. DON'T PURCHASE STUFF ON YOUR OWN. GOT IT. I CAN DO THAT. ALL RIGHT, SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO TURN TO WASTE DIVERSION STATISTICS. AND I'M GOING TO JUMP TO EVERYBODY'S FAVORITE SPREADSHEET. AND AGAIN THIS IS WHERE YOU HAVE TO REALLY BE PATIENT WITH ME BECAUSE THE MOUSE IS VERY SENSITIVE AND THINGS ARE VERY SMALL. OKAY. SO WE ARE GOING TO LOOK AT. GAVIN. I THINK YOU CAN PROBABLY CAN GAVIN GO? YES. HE NEEDS TO GO.

HE HE WANTS TO HEAR ABOUT IT. IT'S RIVETING. REALLY. IT IS. IT'S GOING TO BE BORING ONCE YOU GET THE SPREADSHEETS OUT AND RUN FOR IT. YEAH. CONGRATS. GOOD LUCK. SEE YOU. YEAH. SO THESE ARE THIS IS FROM EXCUSE ME, 2026. SO THIS IS THIS YEAR'S DATA UP UNTIL JUNE. SO THE FIRST TWO QUARTERS PLUS JUNE. THESE ARE THE THE NUMBERS THE NUMBERS AND TONS WE HAVE ADDED FROM LAST YEAR. WE DID ADD PUMPKINS HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE, E-WASTE IN THE DRUG TAKE BACK EVENT. SO WE ADDED THESE THINGS AND THE PAPER SHREDDING SINCE THOSE ARE THINGS THAT ARE BEING DIVERTED FROM THE LANDFILL. WHEN I SCROLL DOWN, YOU'LL SEE MORE NUMBERS AND THE TOTAL DIVERTED IS 22.9 FOR JANUARY 20TH 3.5 FOR FEBRUARY. ET CETERA. ET CETERA. NOW YOU'RE PROBABLY ASKING, HOW DOES THIS COMPARE TO LAST YEAR? WELL DON'T WORRY, WE HAVE A YEAR TO YEAR COMPARISON. SO THIS LOOKS AT JANUARY BY MONTH. THE PERCENTAGE THAT WAS DIVERTED. SO YOU CAN SEE THE NUMBERS HERE. THERE ARE SOME INTERESTING THINGS LIKE FOR MARCH FOR EXAMPLE, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT A LOT MORE THAT WAS DIVERTED IN MARCH. BUT IN OTHER MONTHS, YOU KNOW, LIKE, WHERE WAS IT? I THOUGHT THERE WAS ONE MONTH WHERE LAST YEAR THERE WAS A BIGGER. MAYBE, I THINK JANUARY, JANUARY. YEAH. SO JANUARY LAST YEAR WE DIVERTED A LITTLE BIT MORE. SO WHEN YOU ADD ALL THESE UP, WHEN IT COMES OUT TO BE, IS THAT ABOUT 29.92% HAS BEEN DIVERTED THIS YEAR, 24.5% WAS DIVERTED LAST YEAR. WITH THE CAVEAT, THERE'S THOSE FEW OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE COUNTING THIS YEAR THAT WE DIDN'T COUNT LAST YEAR. NOW, OVER TIME, I'LL WORK WITH THE CHAIR TO GET THOSE NUMBERS FROM LAST YEAR SO WE CAN HAVE A MORE APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISON. AND THEN THESE ARE JUST THE AGAIN, THE NUMBERS FOR EACH OF THE RECYCLING LAST YEAR COMPARED TO THIS YEAR, YARD WASTE LAST YEAR COMPARED TO THE YEAR, ETC. NOW THE WINTER, OBVIOUSLY THAT STARTED IN SEPTEMBER, I BELIEVE LAST YEAR OR AUGUST. SO WE DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS. WE DON'T HAVE NUMBERS PRIOR TO THAT. AND THEN THE GO ZERO. THOSE ARE INTERESTING TOO, BECAUSE I THINK IN APRIL WE HAD

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AHEAD OF THAT MEETING, WE WANTED TO SHARE ALL THAT INFORMATION WITH THIS GROUP SO YOU GUYS CAN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL ON, YOU KNOW, IF, IN PRINCIPLE, WE SHOULD STILL BE MOVING FORWARD WITH THESE PROGRAMS. SO CITY COUNCIL REALLY WILL LOOK AT THE DOLLARS AND FINANCIALS. BUT THIS GROUP, YOU KNOW, CITY COUNCIL HAVE ASKED FOR YOUR GUIDANCE MOVING FORWARD ON JUST SORT OF LIKE PHILOSOPHICALLY, IF THESE PROGRAMS ARE WORTH, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, CONTINUING OR AS FAR AS FOOD COMPOSTING GOES, STARTING. SO WE ARE AT THE END OF ALL OF OUR FIVE YEAR CONTRACTS. SO COUNCIL IS GOING TO SEE ALL ASPECTS OF THIS.

THANKS, DAVE. MOVING FORWARD. SO JUST REAL QUICK, JUST SOME BACKGROUND. SO WE'VE BEEN COLLECTING SOME DATA FROM SWACO AND FROM RUMPKE. AND SO YOU GUYS MIGHT ALREADY, I'M SURE YOU GUYS PROBABLY KNOW THIS BETTER THAN WE DO. BUT TO ME, THIS IS SORT OF EYE OPENING THAT, YOU KNOW, 76% OF POTENTIALLY RECYCLABLE OR COMPOSTABLE GOODS ARE BEING COLLECTED. SO THERE'S 24% OF EVERYTHING THAT'S COLLECTED. IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO GO INTO LANDFILL NO MATTER WHAT. BUT, YOU KNOW, CURRENTLY THE CITY IS RECYCLING. SO THAT'S 25% OVER HERE. THIS IS A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION AND MAYBE COMMERCIAL THINGS. SO MAYBE NOT AN IMPACT FROM A RESIDENTIAL STANDPOINT, BUT WE ARE DOING OUR ELECTRONICS AND HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE COLLECTION. SO WE ARE PROVIDING OPPORTUNITIES TO THE COMMUNITY TO GET INTO THIS OTHER RECYCLABLE MATERIAL. AND THEN JUST WITHIN THE LAST YEAR OR SO, AS DAVE MENTIONED, CITY COUNCIL AND THIS GROUP HAVE PROVIDED THE WAY FORWARD TO KIND OF DIP OUR TOE IN INTO THE COMPOST WORLD FOR FOOD WASTE. AND SO WE'VE BEEN DOING THOSE FOR DROP OFF LOCATIONS.

AND WE HAVE THE PILOT PROGRAM AT WINDSOR AS WELL. SO WHAT WE AS PART OF THE BID PROGRAM FROM SWACO IS THAT WE ASK WACO TO PUT OUT FOR BIDS FOR FOOD COMPOSTING COLLECTION AT THE CURB FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY, WHICH WOULD CONSIST OF 4000 HOUSEHOLDS. SO JUST REAL QUICK, SOME MORE FACTS. I COULDN'T BELIEVE THIS, BUT IT'S 1 MILLION POUNDS OF FOOD WASTE GOES INTO THE LANDFILL EVERY SINGLE DAY, AND THAT FOOD WASTE MAKES UP 15% OF THE LANDFILL JUST BASED ON WEIGHTS. IT'S GOOD TO KNOW FRANKLIN COUNTY, YOU KNOW, SORT OF BEATING THE

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AND FINALLY LOCAL WASTE PUT IN A BID AT $15 PER HOUSEHOLD PER MONTH. NOW THIS THE CITY HAS.

AS PART OF THE SWACO, WE HAVE LEGAL CONSULTANT THAT GOES THROUGH ALL THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS AND LOOKS AT THE PRICING AS WELL. THEY HAVE RECOMMENDED THAT THE CITY GO WITH THE COMPOST EXCHANGE FOR ALL OF THOSE REASONS. SO REAL QUICK, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, A BRAND NEW PROGRAM THAT WOULD BE FOR ALL 4000 HOUSEHOLDS. THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT IF THE CITY DECIDES TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT WE COULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF BEING A STRONG PARTNER WILL PAY FOR THE BUCKETS FOR EVERYBODY UP FRONT AS PART OF THAT YEAR. ONE COST. AND THEY WOULD ALSO PROVIDE THE CITY $100,000 IN GRANTS TO HELP FACILITATE SOME INITIAL COSTS, AND ALSO TO DO LIKE AN EDUCATION CAMPAIGN. WE THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT IF THE CITY DECIDES TO PURSUE THIS PROGRAM, YOU KNOW, THAT WE GET THE WORD OUT. YOU KNOW HOW THIS WORKS. WHEN IT WORKS, WHAT YOU SHOULD OR SHOULD NOT BE DOING. THERE IS A SIGN UP COMPONENT TO THIS AS WELL. SO THE CONTRACT WOULD PROVIDE SERVICES FOR ALL 4000 HOUSEHOLDS, JUST LIKE OUR CONTRACT DOES FOR OTHER SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLABLES AS WELL. SO WHILE THERE IS WHILE THE CONTRACT DOES INCLUDE ALL 4000 HOUSEHOLDS, THAT $2.16 WOULD BE CHARGED WOULD BE CHARGED, ALL HOUSEHOLDS, POTENTIALLY REGARDLESS OF PARTICIPATION RATE. SO IT APPLIES. THE COST APPLIES TO EVERYBODY WHETHER YOU PARTICIPATE OR NOT. IN ORDER TO PARTICIPATE, YOU HAVE TO SIGN UP SEPARATELY. AND THEN WE WOULD MAKE SURE YOU GET THE BUCKET AND BE SERVICED ON A WEEKLY BASIS. THE GOOD THING ABOUT THE COMPOST EXCHANGE IS, IS THAT THEY'VE COMMITTED TO DOING THE PICKUP ON THURSDAY, WHICH IS THE NORMAL TRASH DAY, SO IT COULD BE PUT OUT AT THE CURB AT THE SAME TIME AS EVERYTHING ELSE IN ORDER TO MEET THOSE. THOSE CURRENT HABITS. SO TONIGHT, WITH THE QUESTION TO THIS GROUP, IN ORDER TO PROVIDE GUIDANCE TO COUNCIL IS, YOU KNOW, SHOULD CITY COUNCIL ADOPT A CURBSIDE FOOD WASTE PICKUP PROGRAM FOR HOUSEHOLDS IN NEW ALBANY? AND AGAIN, THIS WILL GO ON. WE'LL TAKE THIS WHATEVER THE GROUP PROVIDES. FEEDBACK TO COUNCIL ON AUGUST 18TH. SO DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS OR THE NEXT STEPS? I DO MY EXPERIENCE WITH MUNICIPAL BIDS IN THE PAST IS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S LIKE THIS IN OHIO, BUT IT IS WHERE I CAME FROM IN NEW YORK, WHEN WE DID SOMETHING LIKE THIS, WE WOULD REQUEST PERFORMANCE BOND FROM THE VENDOR SO THAT IN THE COURSE OF THAT CONTRACT, IF FOR SOME REASON THEY WENT BANKRUPT OR THEY SAID THEY CAN'T DO ANY MORE, THEY BECAUSE THEY BID IT, WE HAD A RECOURSE TO RECOVER SOME OF THOSE FUNDS AND THATNTRG LIKE THIS IN THIS CONTRACT? SO DAVE HAS BEEN REALLY LIKE IN THE WEEDS ON THIS, TO MY UNDERSTANDING, IS THAT THE COMPOST EXCHANGE HAS COMMUNICATED TO US THAT BASED ON THE BONDING REQUIREMENTS, THEY CAN GET UP TO A THREE YEAR BOND. AND SO THIS CONTRACT WITH COMPOST EXCHANGE WOULD BE STRUCTURED WHERE IT WOULD BE A THREE YEAR CONTRACT WITH TWO SINGLE YEAR AUTOMATIC RENEWALS.

SO IT ESSENTIALLY COULD EXTEND FOR FIVE, BUT THREE YEARS WOULD BE LOCKED IN. AND THEN YEAR 4 OR 5, WE COULD AUTOMATICALLY RENEW AND CONTINUE THAT SERVICE. BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE CONTRACT HAS TO BE STRUCTURED THAT WAY BASED ON THAT, THE BONDING THAT THEY CAN GET AND THAT AUTOMATIC RENEWAL WOULD BE ON US. AND THEY CAN'T SAY, NO, WE DON'T WANT TO RENEW IT FOR THAT THIRD OR FOURTH AND FIFTH YEAR. THEY HAVE TO ABIDE BY IT. IF WE SAY, YES, I, I BELIEVE SO, YEAH. IN FACT, I BELIEVE E'S A PROVISION IN THERE WHERE IT WILL AUTOMATICALLY RENEW. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO SAY YES JUST BY US DOING NOTHING WILL AUTOMATICALLY RENEW FOR YEARS FOUR AND FIVE. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S ALL I HAD. DOES THAT RATE CHANGE EVERY

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SO TWO, TWO, 16 IS JUST FOR THE COLLECTION PROCESSING. THE COMPOST EXCHANGE DOES PROVIDE LINERS TO PARTICIPANTS BUT AT A COST. IT'S $0.17 PER COMPOST BAG. SO IF YOU DID EVERY WEEK THAT'D BE 17 TIMES FOUR WEEKS. OR YOU'RE LOOKING A LITTLE, YOU KNOW, ABOUT $0.70 A MONTH. AND, AND BUCKET LINERS. BUT THE COMPOST EXCHANGE WOULD ALSO BE DROPPING THOSE OFF. SO THEY WOULD JUST I BELIEVE THAT'S HOW IT WORKS IN WINDSOR. THEY WOULD TAKE A BAG, LEAVE A BAG. YEAH.

OKAY. SO IT'S $3. DID I MISS. YEAH. OH SORRY. YEAH. SO IT COULD BE UP TO $3. ALL ALL IN COST PER HOUSEHOLD, INCLUDING THE THE LINERS. SO ROUGHLY IF IF EVERY HOUSE. SO THE BASE PRICE FOR CURBSIDE COLLECTION AND PROCESSING FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY. SO WOULD BE $103,000 IF ALL 4000 HOMES IN THE COMMUNITY PARTICIPATED. SO IF WE HAD 100% PARTICIPATION RATES AND EVERYBODY USED A BUCKET EVERY WEEK, THAT WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL $32,000, A LITTLE OVER $32,000 FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY. BUT OH, I THINK I MISUNDERSTOOD WHAT YOU SAID INITIALLY BECAUSE I THOUGHT YOU SAID THAT THE PRICE THAT THEY QUOTED THE WAS FOR ALL 4000 HOUSEHOLDS, REGARDLESS IF THEY PARTICIPATE OR NOT. YEAH. SO, SO THAT'S WHAT THE 216 IS. SO 216 OVER THE COURSE OF A YEAR TOTALS $103,000 APPROXIMATELY. AND THEN WHAT'S NOT SHOWN HERE IS THE BUCKET LINER COST AT $0.17. THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL SORRY SORRY SORRY. AND AND WE WOULD ONLY BE CHARGED THOSE FOR FOLKS THAT ARE ACTUALLY OPTED IN. THAT'S CORRECT. FOR THE LINERS. FOR THE LINERS. YEAH. THE THE 216 WOULD APPLY TO EVERYBODY WHETHER YOU PARTICIPATE OR NOT. JUST SORT OF THE SAME MODEL IT IS WITH ANY SORT OF OTHER LIKE SOLID WASTE OR RECYCLING. YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY PAYS FOR RECYCLING COLLECTION DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THEY'RE PARTICIPATING IN PUTTING AT THE CURB. RIGHT. IS THERE A MINIMUM PARTICIPATION REQUIRED FROM COMPOST EXCHANGE. NO THERE'S NOT. THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION THOUGH. YEAH. SO IF IF IF YOU SO YEAH, ZERO HOMES PARTICIPATED OR IF EVERY HOME PARTICIPATED, EVERY HOME WOULD STILL BE PAYING $2.16 PER MONTH. SO WHAT I WOULD ASK FROM THE BOARD WOULD BE BECAUSE COUNCIL WANTS SOME SORT OF NUMBER, IF THIS GETS RECOMMENDED. SO I WOULD COME UP WITH WHATEVER WE THINK OUR ADOPTION RATE, A REALISTIC ADOPTION RATE WOULD BE. I KNOW WE'RE AT 18% IN THE PILOT RIGHT NOW FOR WINDSOR. IF WE WANTED TO APPLY LIKE A 30% KIND OF A GOAL TO THE LINER

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BUT THAT'S THREE OVER $15,000. I MEAN, IT'S NEGLIGIBLE. IT'S NOT NOTHING, BUT IT'S. YEAH.

OKAY. YEAH. HAVE WE TALKED TO THE COMPOST EXCHANGE ABOUT TAKING OVER THE MAIN DROP OFFS AS FAR AS WHAT THEIR PRICE WOULD BE COMPARED TO GO ZERO. NO, WE HAVE NOT IN THAT ASPECT.

YEAH WE HAVE WE WOULD HAVE TO EXPLORE THAT AS PART OF A SEPARATE CONTRACT. IT WASN'T INCLUDED IN THE BIDS. PART OF IT IS IF THIS IS ADOPTED AND WE ROLL IT OUT, IT'S GOING TO TAKE SEVERAL MONTHS TO GET PEOPLE USED TO IT. 30% IS CONSIDERED EXTREMELY HIGH, EXTREMELY GOOD.

COULD YOU THINK WHERE RECYCLING WAS 20 YEARS AGO? 30% OF RECYCLING WOULD BE REALLY, REALLY GOOD AT THAT POINT. ONE THING THAT WE CAN DO THAT'S KIND OF ON OUR RADAR IS TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE NUMBERS FROM GO ZERO FROM THE DROP OFF LOCATIONS BY LOCATION. SO, YOU KNOW, MONITORING THOSE TO SEE ARE THOSE NUMBERS DROPPING OR ARE THEY STAYING THE SAME IS WE'RE INCREASING THE HOUSEHOLD AND THEN MAKE THAT DETERMINATION WHETHER OR NOT A OR A DO WE GO BACK? DO WE GO OUT FOR BID FOR THOSE LOCATIONS. B DO WE NEED ALL FOUR LOCATIONS? IS THERE ONE LOCATION THAT IS REALLY, YOU KNOW, IS ONLY GETTING LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, 10 G LIKE THAT A WEEK. AND SO THEN MAKE THAT DETERMINATION, BUT IT WOULD BE OVER TIME, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE JUST DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW HOW IT'S GOING TO PLAY OUT. YEAH. AND, AND THE COUNCIL MEMBER WAS SAYING, YEAH, THE AN OPTION WOULD BE TO STOP THE, THE FOUR DROP OFF LOCATIONS AND THEN BASICALLY REPLACE THAT WITH CURBSIDE BECAUSE THAT COULD BE ANOTHER OPTION. I KNOW SOMETHING WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, YOU'VE STATED THAT PREVIOUSLY. I THINK FOR ME, AND I'M GOING TO WEIGH IN THAT I WOULD I THINK WHAT WE'RE DAVID'S SAYING IS LIKE, I WANT TO GIVE IT SOME LAG AND HAVE A SIX MONTH REVIEW AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE SEEING IT GO DOWN. AND HAVING SAID THAT, I MEAN, GO ZERO HAS BEEN ACCEPTABLE ACCEPTING OF REDUCING IF WE'RE NOT GETTING USAGE OUT OF STUFF. SO WE CAN KIND OF DO THAT ON THE FLY, ASSUMING THAT WE STAY WITH THEM FOR AN ADDITIONAL YEAR IN THE CONTRACT. I DON'T KNOW IF I'D WANT TO GO THERE INITIALLY AND JUST GET RID OF THEM. NO, I, I GUESS I THINK I SEE WHERE YOU'RE COMING, IF THOSE GO AWAY, IT WOULD ENCOURAGE FOLKS TO ENROLL BECAUSE ULTIMATELY WE WANT TO DRIVE THEM TO NOT HAVE TO GO, RIGHT? DRIVE TO JUST PUT IT ON YOUR CURB. HOWEVER, THERE IS A SEGMENT OF OUR POPULATION THAT WAS LIVING IN APARTMENTS OR CONDOS THAT DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THE CURBSIDE. SO THIS WOULD ALLOW THEM TO STILL PARTICIPATE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE ON A SMALLER SCALE. YEAH, YEAH.

BECAUSE I MEAN, WE'VE NEVER WE'VE KIND OF PRESUMED THAT WE'RE GETTING PROBABLY SOME PEOPLE FROM OUTSIDE THE COMMUNITY. WE MIGHT BE GETTING SOME SMALL BUSINESSES THAT ARE DROPPING THEIR STUFF OFF AS WELL. AND AGAIN, WE'VE NEVER WE'VE TRIED TO ENGAGE PEOPLE TO GET SOME IDEA ABOUT THAT, BUT I THINK WE'RE GETTING CLEAR INFORMATION. SO THAT'S ANOTHER REASON I WOULDN'T WANT TO JUST SAY DO AWAY WITH NOT SEEING IT AGAIN FROM THE SPIRIT OF THE COMMUNITY IS SUPPORTING WASTE DIVERSION. WE MIGHT BE GETTING A FEW PEOPLE HERE AND THERE ON THE OUTSIDE OF THINGS, BUT I WOULDN'T WANT TO NECESSARILY GO AWAY ASSUMING THAT IT WASN'T, AGAIN, A HUGE EXPENSE OF THE CITY. DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU GET PUSHBACK FROM THE COUNCIL? IF WE ARE ASKING TO CONTINUE DROP OFF AND CURBSIDE, AT LEAST IN THE SHORT TERM? YEAH, UNLESS THERE'S A REALLY GOOD REASON TO DO BOTH. AND, AND I THINK AN OVERLAP IS UNDERSTANDABLE AND MAYBE EVEN CONTINUING ONE, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, MARKET CENTER WHERE BUSINESSES AND KIND OF CLOSER TO MULTI FAMILY HERE COULD MAKE SENSE. I JUST DON'T KNOW IF SUPPORTING ALL FOUR.

NOW, ONCE WE HAVE A COMMUNITY WIDE CURBSIDE PICKUP, IT'S A GOOD COMPROMISE. WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, ONE FOR PEOPLE WHO MAYBE AREN'T ONE OF THESE 4000 HOUSEHOLDS. YEAH I AGREE. YEAH.

YEAH. IT'S A QUESTION I JUST WANTED. I WAS JUST CURIOUS. I MEAN, THAT'S A PRETTY BIG

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SO YEAH, THE ONLY ONE YOU'LL SEE ONE OR I GUESS THE DOUBLE ASTERISK ALONG WITH GO ZERO. WE DIDN'T SOLICIT THIS, BUT GO ZERO SAID THAT THEIR COST ALSO INCLUDES YARD WASTE, WHICH WOULD SORT OF, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A SERVICE THAT'S ALREADY PROVIDED. SEEMS SO IT SEEMS LIKE FOR THEM, THEY COULDN'T SEPARATE THOSE OUT TO PROVIDE A MORE COMPETITIVE COST. WE WERE, YOU KNOW, JUST TALKING TO DAVE AND I EARLIER AND, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY THE REASON COMPOST EXCHANGE IS MUCH MORE LIKE FAVORABLY PRICED. THEY SHOULD HAVE CLOSER FACILITIES. IT'S JUST TRANSPORTATION COST IS PROBABLY DRIVING A LOT OF THIS. AND THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT'S GIVING THEM AN UPPER EDGE HERE. I'VE GOT ONE MORE GLOOM AND DOOM QUESTION WITH THE COMPOSTING FACILITY ITSELF, ARE WE DO WE KNOW IF IT'S GOT THE PROPER STATE PERMITS OR LICENSES AND THEY'RE GOING TO MAINTAIN THAT? SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS IN THERE. AND THEN SECOND, IF THEY MISMANAGE THAT AND IT BECOMES A LIABILITY, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE SOME INDEMNIFICATION LANGUAGE IN OUR AGREEMENT THAT WE WON'T BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY OF THE CLEANUP IF OF THEIR MESSES, YOU KNOW, SO I THINK SOMETHING LIKE THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, LIKE POLLUTION LIABILITY INSURANCE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S GOT TO BE ADDRESSED BY THE ATTORNEYS, OR AT LEAST I HOPE IT WILL BE.

YEAH. AS I SAID, I DON'T WANT TO GET LEGAL, BUT I THINK THE COMPENSATION IS CURRENTLY USING THE MARYSVILLE FACILITY. THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE DOING TIPPING IN. I'M AGAIN, I'M TAKING A LEAP OF ASSUMPTION THAT MAYBE THIS BID IS LOW BECAUSE THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF BUILDING A FACILITY IN COLUMBUS, AND THEY MAY BE JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THEY'VE GOT FEEDSTOCK THAT'S COMING IN. SO THEY'RE LOW BIDDING IT TO GET THE BUSINESS. BUT. AND FOR THE INDEMNITY FOR THE INDEMNIFICATION CLAUSES. YEAH, THAT'S A REALLY GOOD COMMENT. WE'LL DOUBLE CHECK THAT AFTER THIS MEETING AND AFTER COUNCIL. THE LEGISLATION COUNCIL ALLOWS THE THE CITY MANAGER TO WORK OUT ALL THOSE DETAILS AND ENTER INTO A CONTRACT BY THE END OF THE YEAR TO START THOSE SERVICES. THANK YOU. GOOD. WITH THE COMPOST EXCHANGE, THEY TAKE RIGHT NOW, THEY USE THE OHIO PENAL INDUSTRIES OVER IN LONDON, I BELIEVE. AND THEN THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE LOOKING TO BUILD IN COLUMBUS, NEAR 71 AND 670. AND THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF MY UNDERSTANDING IS GETTING THE PERMITS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO SORRY, STEVE, YOU SAID SOMETHING. THE GO ZERO BID YOU SAID IS INCLUSIVE OF ALL ORGANICS. SO INCLUDES YARD WASTE BECAUSE YARD WASTE AND YARD WASTE AND FOOD WASTE. YEAH. SO WHAT ARE WE PAYING CURRENTLY FOR YARD WASTE WITH RUMPKE. SO THE THING IS THEY THEY DON'T BREAK DOWN THAT COST. WE'VE ASKED THEM, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY ALSO HAVE LIKE A FLAT FEE, BUT THAT INCLUDES JUST REGULAR SOLID WASTE, THE RECYCLING COLLECTION AND YARD WASTE COLLECTION AND PROCESSING, JUST LIKE ON YOUR BILL. THAT DOESN'T BREAK DOWN. IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THEIR SYSTEMS JUST DON'T ALLOW FOR THAT, THAT LEVEL OF BREAKDOWN. SO I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY. AND IS THE GO ZERO BID PER USER, OR IS THAT 4000 HOUSEHOLDS AS WELL? THE WAY THAT THE COMPOST EXCHANGE DID THE LATTER. SO IT'S ALSO STRUCTURED THE SAME WHERE THAT'S THE COST PER HOUSEHOLD FOR ALL 4000. OKAY. THAT'S NOT JUST OFTEN. YEAH. I THINK IT'S A GREAT PLAN. SO I MEAN, I, I CAN'T BELIEVE THEY CAN DO IT FOR THAT CHEAP EITHER. BUT ESPECIALLY WITH THE SWACO, YOU KNOW, GRANT, I MEAN, I THINK IT REALLY HELPS US TO GET THE THING OFF THE GROUND AND CAN HELP US WITH EDUCATING AND EDUCATING THE PUBLIC. I MEAN, THAT'S GOING TO BE THE BIGGEST PIECE, I THINK IS JUST POUNDING THAT AND MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE AWARE AND MAYBE GIVING THEM SAMPLES OF, YOU KNOW, ALL THE STUFF THAT THEY WANT TO KNOW ABOUT, LIKE, WHERE DO YOU PUT THE BUCKET AND HOW MUCH DOES IT SMELL AND ALL THAT SILLY STUFF. BUT YEAH, I'M ALL FOR IT. AND WE CAN ALSO, I MEAN, WE'RE TEAMED UP WITH SWACO AS WELL. SO BETWEEN SWACO AND KNOWING WHAT BEST PRACTICES ARE INDUSTRY STANDARDS FOR THAT. THE OTHER THING IS JUST WITH QUESTION I HAVE THAT JUST KIND OF POPPED IN MY BRAIN IS IF YOU HAVE MORE THAN FIVE, MAYBE YOU HAVE A PARTY AND YOU HAVE MORE THAN FIVE GALLONS, THEN DOES THE COMPANY JUST TAKE THAT? OR DO YOU NEED ONE OF THE DROP OFF LOCATIONS THAT YOU TAKE IT TO? SO THAT JUST HAPPENED TO ME THIS WEEK. AND WE, WE WENT TO TAYLOR FARMS TO DROP OFF BECAUSE WE HAD WAY MORE THAN THE BUCKETS FULL. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I'LL LOOK INTO. AND THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION, BECAUSE I CAN'T REMEMBER IF WE'VE EVER ASKED THE QUESTION, IS A LINE OF REQUIRED OR IS THE LINER A NICE TO HAVE SO THAT THE BUCKET STAYS CLEAN? BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S BEEN AN ISSUE WHERE PEOPLE WERE WORRIED ABOUT THE BUCKET BEING DIRTY. I DON'T THINK WE'VE EVER ASKED THE

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SO I CAN'T SEE WHY THAT WOULD MATTER. I MEAN, IT GETS BACK TO THE COST. LIKE, DO WE NEED TO WORRY ABOUT PROVIDING LINERS OR LEAVE IT UP TO THE UP TO THE RESIDENT TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION? YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. WELL, WE DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER, BUT WE'LL CERTAINLY FIND THAT OUT. YEAH. I MEAN, I PERSONALLY COMPOST AT HOME NOW WITH FIVE GALLON BUCKET. AND I ACTUALLY DO DOUBLE LINERS BECAUSE. FOR POSSIBLE BREAKAGE, I DON'T WANT TO SPILL ALL OVER WHEN I LIFT IT UP. AND SECOND, EVEN WHEN I PULLED THE LINERS OUT, I OFTEN FIND MOISTURE IN THE BETWEEN THE LINER AND THE BUCKET. SO I GOT TO WASH OUT THE BUCKET BETWEEN DUMPS. SO I DON'T KNOW TELLS YOU ANYTHING, BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE RUN INTO. I FEEL LIKE WE'VE RUN INTO THE SAME THING AND WE'RE GOING OPPOSITE AND I'M READY TO JUST SCRAP THE LINERS. THEY ALWAYS STUCK INTO MY YES, THEY BREAK WHEN I PULL THEM OUT AND IT'S WET. THAT'S WHAT DOUBLE LINES WASH IT EVERY TIME I WASH IT ANYWAY. WELL, THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING FOR. PROCEDURE STANDPOINT. I MEAN, YOU'RE, YOU'RE TAKING IT OUT AND DUMPING IT SOMEPLACE. THEY'VE GOT A TRUCK THAT'S ROLLING UP AND THEY'RE JUST GETTING DUMPED IF THEY'RE HANDING IT, DUMPING THE BUCKET IN IS, IS THE QUESTION FROM A PROCESS. THAT'S TRUE. I USE A SMALL BUCKET UNDER MY KITCHEN SINK, AND THEN I BRING IT OUT TO THE BUCKET OUTSIDE. YEAH. THEN WITH A LINER OR WITH A LINER. YEAH, WITH A LINER IN THE HOUSE. AND THEN PUT THAT THING INTO THE BUCKET. OKAY. THEN YOU JUST GOT TO RINSE OUT THE BUCKET EVERY NOW AND AGAIN. I GUESS. HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO HANDLE IT? JUST SO WE'RE, WE'RE GO BACK TO GRANT. I JUST WANT TO DISCUSS THAT A LITTLE BIT AS WELL. SO A FIVE YEAR COMMITMENT TO GET THE $100,000, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S GOING TO BE. YOU KNOW, WE DID THE PILOT PROGRAM. SO COMMITTING TO FIVE YEARS MAY BE A LEAP BECAUSE THAT PUTS THEM IN A CONSORTIUM TIMELINE THOUGH, RIGHT? WELL, I'M SORRY, IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS IS KIND OF SEPARATE BECAUSE THIS IS THERE'S A KEY PIECE. THIS IS COMPLEX CHANGE PIECE. AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A ONE YEAR RENEWAL, A THREE YEAR. SO YEAH, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY LINE UP. IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S A ONE YEAR DEAL WITH COMPOST EXCHANGE. SO THE COMPOST EXCHANGE WOULD BE A FIVE YEAR DEAL. THE GRANT IS A ONE YEAR DEAL. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE. SO ONE YEAR THEY GIVE $100,000 OR WILL THEY TAKE GIVE $20,000 OVER EVERY YEAR FOR FIVE YEARS. SO BY ENTERING IN. YES, A GOOD QUESTION. SO BY ENTERING INTO A CONTRACT WITH A COMPOST EXCHANGE, WE'D BE ENTERING INTO THAT THREE YEAR CONTRACT WITH TWO AUTO RENEWALS FOR YEARS FOUR AND FIVE. AND THEN IF WE DID THAT, SUEKO SAID, WE WILL GIVE YOU A YEAR, ONE, $100,000 GRANT AND PROVIDE BUCKETS. YEAR ONE. SO, SO THEORETICALLY, THE WAY I THINK THAT WOULD WORK OUT IS YEAR ONE, WE WOULD HAVE $100,000 TO HELP OFFSET THOSE INITIAL START UP COSTS TO DO SOME LIKE CAMPAIGNS. MAYBE THERE'S SOME SIGNAGE OR FLIERS OR POSTCARDS. AND THEN I THINK THE FREE BUCKETS ARE ALSO ONLY IN YEAR ONE. SO IF SOMEBODY WANTED US, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY COMES TO THE COMMUNITY AND YEAR THREE OF THE CONTRACT, THEY WOULD HAVE A BUCKET COST AS WELL, POTENTIALLY. SO BUCKETS ARE IN ADDITION TO THE $100,000 FROM THE 2000. IS THAT RIGHT, DAVE? DAVE. OH, NO, I BELIEVE IT'S THE BUCKETS ARE IT'S $100,000 GRANT FROM SWACO. AND THEY ALSO HAVE THE BUCKETS. THEY ALREADY HAVE BUCKETS IN HAND. SO THAT'S NOT PART OF THE 100,000. OKAY. NOT PART OF THE 100,000. SO HOW MUCH IS THAT ONE YEAR FROM THOSE MULTIPLE YEAR 21,360. THAT'S HOW MUCH THE BUCKETS COST. IF WE IS THAT BUCKET 4000 HOUSES, 4000 HOUSEHOLDS. THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE SAYING. YOU'RE ONLY GIVING BUCKETS OF PEOPLE THAT SIGN UP. THAT'S RIGHT. SO THAT WOULD BE THE MAXIMUM. WHEN YOU GET NEW PEOPLE SIGN UP AND YOU'D STILL HAVE SOME. YEAH. IF IF IF THIS PROGRAM IS PURSUED. YEAH. WE WOULD HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, DO AN INITIAL LIKE EDUCATION CAMPAIGN, LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT THEY HAVE TO SIGN UP TO PARTICIPATE, LET THEM KNOW THAT THEY'RE GOING TO SEE THIS NEW BILL, WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE PARTICIPATING OR NOT. BUT YEAH, THAT'S THESE ARE ALL LIKE, YEAH, REALLY GOOD THOUGHTS AND IDEAS THAT WE'RE GOING TO LIKE COMMUNICATE EARLY TO FOLKS TO MAKE SURE THEY KNOW WHAT, WHAT TO EXPECT WHEN THE PROGRAM STARTS AND WHO DISTRIBUTES THE BUCKETS AS THE COMPOST EXCHANGE. I'M SORRY, WHAT'S THE QUESTION? WHO DISTRIBUTES THE BUCKETS INITIALLY? AND THEN THROUGHOUT THE PROGRAM, LET'S SAY YEAR END, SOMEONE COMES IN, THEY WANT ONE BUCKET COMPOST EXCHANGE IS NOT GOING TO DRIVE A TRUCK OUT, JUST ONE BUCKET. SO I THINK

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OPERATING BUDGET. YEAH. OPERATING BUDGET, I CAN'T. SIX. YEAH. HOW MUCH HOUSE COST THE CITY VERSUS HOW MUCH. $600. YEAH. AND I GUESS THAT'S THE NUMBER I THINK BEFORE WE PROCESS COUNCIL WHAT THAT DELTA IS OKAY TO GET A REAL NUMBER TO SAY, ALL RIGHT. THIS IS EVEN THOUGH IT'S OUT OF OUR BUDGET, IT'S STILL OUR BUDGET COMES OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND. YEAH. YES.

SO IT WOULD DEFINITELY SOFTEN THE NUMBER IF WE LOOKED AT MAYBE REDUCING IT TO ONE.

THERE'S AN OVERLAP, BUT AND THEN YOUR ONE IS GOING TO BE REALLY INEXPENSIVE WITH THIS PROGRAM WILL BE NOTHING LIKE AM I LOSING MY MIND? IT'S $2.16 FOR 4000 HOUSEHOLDS, REGARDLESS OF IF ONE PERSON SIGNS UP. NO, NO IT'S THAT. SO THAT'S LESS THAN $9,000. THAT'S PER MONTH.

PER MONTH. YEAH, YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE I WAS LIKE, I'M LIKE, YEAH, AM I NOT PULLING OFF HERE PER MONTH, TWO, 16 TIMES, 4000 TIMES 12. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S RIGHT, THAT'S RIGHT. I WAS LIKE, WHAT AM I RIGHT? THAT'S THE TWO OVERSIMPLIFYING SOMETHING. CITY, CITY. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CITY COUNCIL WOULD HAVE TO DELIBERATE IS YES, THERE'S A COST TO HOUSEHOLDS. IS THIS A COST SIMILAR TO RECYCLING PROCESSING THAT THE CITY PAYS FOR THAT? YOU KNOW, I THINK THE FINANCES OF IT IS YEAH, SOMETHING COUNCIL WILL HAVE TO DELIBERATE. AND AT THE MEETING ON THE 18TH, IT'D BE A LOT CLEANER IF IT WAS YOU OPT IN AND YOU PAY YOUR $5 A MONTH OR WHATEVER. BUT THE FACT THAT IT'S CHARGING EVERYBODY, WHETHER YOU OPT IN OR NOT, I THINK THAT MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPLICATED. IT WOULD ALMOST HAVE TO BE FUNDED BY THE CITY. WHAT'S THE RECYCLING NUMBER THAT THE CITY COVERS TODAY? SO YEAH, WE WERE GOING TO GO OVER THAT NEXT. SO THE CITY DOES COVER HAS HISTORICALLY PAID FOR THE RECYCLING PROCESSING. SO RESIDENTS PAY FOR THEIR OWN RECYCLING COLLECTION. BUT THE CITY PAYS FOR JUST RECYCLING PROCESSING. THOSE PROCESSING COSTS ARE BASED ON THE RECYCLING COMMODITIES MARKET. SO IT VARIES GREATLY. THE CITY'S CURRENT CONTRACT IS UP. WE'LL CHARGE THE CITY UP TO $35 A TONNE IN THE WORST OF MARKETS.

SO AGAIN, IT VARIES. BUT JUST A QUICK HISTORY. IN 2023, THE CITY PAID $32,744 FOR THE ENTIRE PROCESSING FEES FOR THE FOR THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY IN 2024, IT LOOKED LIKE THE MARKETS WERE MORE FAVORABLE, SO IT COST 10,500 AND THEN 11,620 25. SO FAR, YEAR TO DATE THROUGH JANUARY, THE CITY HAS PAID, YOU KNOW, 7500 DOLLARS FOR THE PROCESSING OF RECYCLABLES. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT MAYBE 15,000 THIS YEAR. WOW. SO SO LAST YEAR WE ONLY PAID 11,000 FOR ALL RECYCLING IN THE CITY. THAT'S AMAZING. THAT SEEMS LOW FOR JUST FOR PROCESSING RESIDENTS PAY FOR THEIR OWN COLLECTION COSTS. OH I SEE BECAUSE. YEAH. BECAUSE I GET A BILL FOR 80 BUCKS. YEAH. YEP. YEAH. AND THAT IS FOR WASTE PICKUP AND RECYCLING.

YEAH. SO WHAT RESIDENTS PAY IS FOR TRASH COLLECTION AND PROCESSING, YARD WASTE COLLECTION AND PROCESSING AND RECYCLING COLLECTION ONLY. THAT'S WHAT RESIDENTS BILL CONSISTS OF. THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY HAS BEEN PAYING FOR THE RECYCLING PROCESSING COSTS ON

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LIKE IN THAT EXAMPLE, LIKE MADE IT EASY FOR FOLKS. SO THEY WENT AHEAD AND DID IT. THERE IS OBVIOUSLY THAT EDUCATION COMPONENT. THEY DID A VERY LARGE EDUCATIONAL CAMPAIGN OVER MULTIPLE YEARS TO LET PEOPLE KNOW WHAT IS RECYCLABLE, NOT AND JUST ALL THE INS AND OUTS.

AND I KIND OF PICTURE THE SAME THING WITH COMPOSTING. YOU KNOW, IN SHORT, IF YOU COULD EAT IT, YOU CAN COMPOST IT. BUT IN THAT SENSE, IT'S A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO CONVEY THE MESSAGE. BUT THEN THERE'S OTHER THINGS LIKE, YOU KNOW, DOES IT SMELL? HOW DO I STORE IT? YOU KNOW? YOU KNOW, ALL THOSE OTHER THINGS. DOES IT ATTRACT RODENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT? AND ALL THOSE THINGS HAVE HAVE REALLY GOOD ANSWERS TO AND OTHER CITIES. UPPER ARLINGTON AND BEXLEY, THEY HAVE A SIMILAR PROGRAM FOR CURBSIDE PICKUP TOO. OKAY. AS PART OF THE WINDSOR PILOT PROGRAM, HAS THERE BEEN FEEDBACK FROM THE RESIDENTS ON WHAT THEY DON'T LIKE OR WHAT THEY DO LIKE, OR WHY THEY'RE NOT PARTICIPATING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? YEAH, IT'S ON THAT PRESENTATION. YES. SO YEAH, WE

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93% OF HOUSEHOLDS HAVE SAID THAT THEY'RE HAPPY WITH THE PROGRAM AND THAT IT'S MET THEIR EXPECTATIONS. SO OF THOSE, 93% ARE SAYING THAT IT'S IT'S BEEN A GOOD PROGRAM. WHAT ABOUT THE 7%? I, I WOULD HAVE TO CHECK THAT. AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN PULL THAT UP QUICK. I'M JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE I'VE HAD OTHER THAN THEM MISSING ME ONE TIME AND THEY CAME THE NEXT DAY, I HAVEN'T HAD O ISSUE. I'D BE CURIOUS TO KNOW WHAT ANY COMPLAINTS WERE. I THINK THE OTHER THING OF THIS OTHER ISSUE WITH THIS IS THE LOGISTICS OF PAYMENT. SO TODAY, EVERYONE, YOU HAVE TO USE RUMPKE, RIGHT? CITY MANDATES IT. SO YOU'RE GETTING A BILL. EVERYONE'S PAYING IT. THIS WOULD BE A SEPARATE BILL FROM A SEPARATE COMPANY THAT'S JUST GOING OUT.

I'M NOT QUITE SURE HOW THE SALE ON THAT IS. AND WE TALKED ABOUT AT SOME POINT, LIKE, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THE CITY COULD TAKE ON? AT THE TIME, THERE WASN'T A BILLING CAPABILITY FOR DOING ANYTHING. AND THE CITY WANTING TO GET IN THE MIDDLE OF DOING THIS, BUT IT WAS A MATTER OF LIKE, COULD RUMPKE BILL FOR ALL THINGS AND THEN CHARGE BACK AND PAY COMPOST EXCHANGE? I DON'T THINK WE BUILT THAT INTO THE BID WHEN WE WERE DOING THIS, BUT I THINK THAT'S THE ONLY OTHER. I MEAN, WHEN YOU LOOK AT IF I'M LOOKING AT WHAT OUR NORMAL BILL IS, IT'S ABOUT $27 A MONTH. SO ANOTHER 216 ON TO THAT LIKE IS GOING TO BE NEGLIGIBLE. OBVIOUSLY, IT'S YOU'RE NOT SLIPPING IT IN WITHOUT TELLING RESIDENTS WHAT IT'S FOR, BUT IT'S MINUTE IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY'RE PAYING TODAY. IN TERMS OF EVERYBODY SUPPORTING THE PROGRAM. BEING WHAT WE'VE DEEMED THE RIGHT THING TO DO. BUT FROM A BILLING STANDPOINT, THAT'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT OF A NIGHTMARE. I WOULD GUESS. AND I'M ONLY LOOKING AT YOU BECAUSE I'M GETTING A SELL POINT BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO COME UP FROM COUNCIL, I'D IMAGINE, BECAUSE IN THEORY, EVERY RESIDENT WOULD GET A BILL FROM THIS EXCHANGE, RIGHT? I MEAN, WHAT THE HELL IS THIS FOR? I DON'T I DON'T COMPOST, RIGHT? SO THAT'S IT'D BE ONE THING. ROLE IN RANKINGS NUMBER AT THE YOU KNOW, FOR US I THINK THERE WOULDN'T BE AS MUCH PUSHBACK. RIGHT. SO BACK OF THE NAPKIN MATH 103,680 WOULD BE THE BASE FOR 4000 ABOUT IF AT A 30% ADOPTION RATE, ANOTHER $816 FOR LINERS. SO THAT'S ABOUT 1200 HOUSEHOLDS IS 30%. I THINK THAT WOULD BE UNBELIEVABLE. WE GOT THERE, BUT WE CAN USE THAT TO START WITH. SO THAT TAKES THE TOTAL TO 104,496. BACK OUT IF WE WANT TO KEEP ONE DROP OFF. I JUST DIVIDED THE THE 258 BY 464 50 TO KEEP ONE. SO THE DELTA DROPS DOWN. IF WE KEEP THE ONE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF A COMMON AREA DOWN HERE, IT WOULD BE A DELTA OF SO 85,146 IF WE DROPPED OFF THE THREE DROP OFFS WOULD GO ZERO. SO THAT WOULD BE KIND OF A NUMBER THAT WE COULD START WITH. IF YOU WANTED TO PRESENT IT TO COUNCIL AND SAY, HEY, WE'RE ALREADY PAYING 258. WE OFFERED IT TO EVERYBODY AND THERE WAS AROUND A 30% ADOPTION RATE. THIS IS WHAT IT WOULD COST. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY WE COULD THEN WE COULD FACTOR IN THIS WAY OF NUMBERS AND HOW YOU WOULD WANT TO PRESENT THOSE. WE NEED TO CHECK WITH ZERO TO SEE IF THAT COST WOULD STILL BE THE SAME. I KNOW THEY HAVE. IF YOU HAVE X AMOUNT OF CARTS, YOU GET A DISCOUNT. YEAH. LIKE I SAID, THAT'S JUST A QUICK IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. SO NOT TO COMPLICATE THIS, BUT I'M GOING TO STILL THE, THE, THE, THE FINANCIAL BENEFACTOR OF US DOING COMPOSTING IS ACTUALLY THE TRASH COMPANY BECAUSE IN THEIR BID, THEY'RE ASSUMING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE PICKING UP ALL THIS WASTE AND THEY FIGURED OUT SO MANY POUNDS PER HOUSEHOLD AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF, AND THEY BUILT IT INTO THEIR PRICE. BUT WE INSTITUTED A CURBSIDE COMPOST PROGRAM. SO WE'RE TAKING THAT AWAY FROM THEIR DISPOSAL COSTS, WHICH IS THEIR COST. AND THUS THEY'RE BENEFITING FROM US HAVING THE PROGRAM. AND THEY DIDN'T DO ANYTHING. IT WOULD BE NICE TO GO BACK AND NEGOTIATIONS AND SAY, WE WANT A SMALL CREDIT PER TON TO COME BACK TO THE CITY BASED ON OUR

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NEVER MIND. BOY THAT'S CHEAP PRICE 26 BUCKS. CASEY'S POINT. I THINK IT IS A LOT OF MONEY.

AND IF WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT IT TO COUNCIL, I SEE THE POINT OF TRYING TO KIND OF COUCH IT A LITTLE BIT BY, YOU KNOW, AGREEING TO REDUCE THE DROP OFF LOCATIONS. THE OTHER GOOD THING ABOUT THAT IS IF WE'RE GOING TO BUY INTO THIS PROGRAM, WE WANT TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MAKE IT SUCCESSFUL. AND YOU DON'T WANT TO FORCE PEOPLE TO CHANGE OR LIKE TO DROP OFF PROGRAM, BUT THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE YOU WANT TO START WITH FOR THE CURBSIDE PROGRAM, LIKE THE DROP OFF, PEOPLE HAVE TO BE PART OF THIS PROGRAM IF IT'S GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL, AND THEN YOU'RE TRYING TO ADD ON PEOPLE FROM THERE. SO, YOU KNOW, THE COUNCIL MAY THINK IT'S TOO MUCH, BUT TO ME, IT MAKES SENSE TO SAY, OKAY, WE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO REDUCE TO ONE LOCATION.

WE'RE HOPING TO SAVE THIS MONEY, MUCH MONEY ON OUR ZERO BID. IT'S CLOSER TO 85, 000 AND HOPE FOR THE BEST. I DON'T KNOW. DO YOU THINK THE QUESTION FROM COUNCIL IS GOING TO BE YEAR ONE, OR IS IT YEAR TWO THROUGH FIVE? BECAUSE YEAR ONE IS BASICALLY COVERED BY SWACO WITH SOME LIKE WE'RE NOT. I DON'T THINK WE'RE SUGGESTING THAT THE CITY IS PICKING UP THE COST FOR 103, 104, $105,000 ON AN ANNUALIZED BASIS FOR YEARS, TWO THROUGH FIVE. YEAH. I MEAN, THERE IS NO YEAR ONE WITHOUT TWO THROUGH FIVE AS FAR AS THE GRANT GOES, RIGHT? YEAH. SO I'M JUST SAYING

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I'M NOT SURE IF WE, IF THAT'S EVEN PART OF THE BID, THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING WE HAVE TO WORK OUT WITH THEM LOGISTICALLY. THE OTHER THING IS IF IT'S SUCH A SMALL AMOUNT, IT'S ALMOST LIKE I THINK OF THE BILLS WE PAY. AND LIKE, IF YOU COULD PAY IT OFF FOR THE YEAR AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, $25, GREAT. AND THEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IT AND GET MONTHLY REMINDERS.

YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER. SO I WAS JUST GOING TO MENTION, LIKE WITH THE, THE CONSORTIUM BID, IF WE WANTED TO DO JUST ONE YEAR, WE'D HAVE TO GO BACK OUT FOR BID, AND THEN WE'D HAVE TO PAY FOR THE BUCKETS AS WELL. SINCE THEY TIE THAT 100 GRAND TO THE FIVE, THE 100 GRAND IN THE BUCKETS TO THE FIVE YEAR COMMITMENT. SO GO BACK TO THE BILLING PIECE. IF THE CITY DOES ELECT TO FUND THIS, YOU'RE SAYING. COMPLEX IS STILL GOING TO SEND INVOICES TO 4000 RESIDENTS? I WOULD ASSUME IT COULD BE SET UP LIKE THE WINDSOR PROGRAM, WHERE IF THE CITY WAS PAYING IT ON BEHALF OF THE RESIDENTS, THEN THE ALL THE BILLS WOULD GO STRAIGHT TO THE CITY AND THE RESIDENTS WOULDN'T SEE ANY BILLING FOR THAT. OKAY. SO THAT THAT'S THAT'S ONE METHOD. AND I'M TRYING TO WRAP MY HEAD AROUND THE OTHER METHOD WHERE WE BUILT THE CITY DOESN'T FUND IT, BUT WE OFFER IT. BUT IN ORDER TO OFFER IT, EVERY RESIDENT HAS TO PAY FOR IT.

YEAH. AND I BELIEVE IT'D BE JUST LIKE THE SAME, LIKE A MODEL WHERE YOU WOULD RECEIVE MONTHLY OR MAYBE QUARTERLY BILLS. EACH RESIDENT WOULD RECEIVE THOSE. YEAH. 70% OF THE PEOPLE IN NEW ALBANY ARE OFF. THEY'RE GOING TO BILL FOR SOMETHING THEY DON'T USE. YEAH, I DON'T LIKE THAT. I'LL JUST ADD TO THEIR TAXES. SO THAT'S. YEAH. YEAH. YEAH. I MEAN, JUST COLLECTING THAT MONEY. WELL, I'M OFF THAT THEY AREN'T USING IT. I WAS WONDERING IF CHARGING THEM WOULD MAKE THEM MORE LIKELY TO PARTICIPATE. BECAUSE IF THEY'RE BEING BILLED FOR IT, THEN WHY WOULDN'T THEY USE IT? YOU'D LIKE TO BELIEVE IT. YEAH. YES. LIKE, HERE'S YOUR FREE BUCKET. YOU HAVE EVERYTHING YOU NEED. YOU HAVE ZERO EXCUSES. YOU'RE PAYING FOR IT ANYWAY.

YEAH. DO IT. YEAH, I KNOW, IT MAKES ME WONDER, LIKE HOW MANY PEOPLE AREN'T DOING IT JUST BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW OR IT'S A PAIN TO GET OUT TO THE DROP OFF OR I DON'T KNOW. I COULD SEE PEOPLE ALSO BEING REALLY IRRITATED, LIKE IT'S THE SAME $25 A YEAR. I FEEL LIKE DOING IT, YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH WE GOT. SO THERE ARE STILL PEOPLE THAT THINK THAT RECYCLING GOES IN THE SAME PLACE YOUR TRASH GOES TO. YEAH. NO MATTER WHAT YOU TELL THEM. YEAH. THAT THE CITY'S PICKING UP THE TAB FOR THIS. YOU HAVE TO TRY TO DRIVE PARTICIPATION SOMEHOW. MAYBE IT

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SO, SO WHAT IF BECAUSE THAT'S THE, THE THING THAT THEIR, THEIR, THEIR SUPPORT INVOLVED WITH THE GRANT OVER AND ABOVE THE MONEY AND THE BUCKETS THAT'S EDUCATIONAL AND ALL THAT, RIGHT? YEAH. THAT'S A, THAT'S A PIECE WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT. YEAH. IT SOUNDS LIKE 100,000 ISN'T JUST TO PAY TO COMPOST EXCHANGE. IT'S GOING TOWARD MARKETING EDUCATION. IT'S NOT JUST OFFSET THE COST OF THE ACTUAL. SURE. YEAH. YEAH. SO WE CAN'T JUST SAY, ALL RIGHT, MARK OFF 100,000 DIRECTLY FROM YEAR ONE. YEAH. THE CITY WOULD BE THE RECEIVER OF THAT $100,000.

AND THEN BUT AS FAR AS THE PARAMETERS GO, YEAH, I BELIEVE ALL THOSE ITEMS YOU MENTIONED ARE ELIGIBLE FOR THE GRANT SPENDING. SO LET'S SAY WE GET TO YEAR THREE AND WE'VE GOT 8% PARTICIPATION, BUT WE'RE STILL PAYING FOR 4000 RESIDENTS. AND WE ELECTED YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT WORTH IT. WE PULL THE PLUG ON THE PROGRAM. WE HAVE TO WRITE A CHECK PACKAGE FOR $100,000.

THAT'S I MEAN, THEY THEY DID SAY THAT IF YOU TAKE THE MONEY, IT HAS TO BE A FIVE YEAR PROGRAM. SO WE WOULD HAVE TO CONTINUE THE PROGRAM ON OR I MEAN, I GUESS IT WOULD BE WRITING A CHECK BACK TO THEM. WE'LL DOUBLE CHECK THAT THAT EXACT LANGUAGE THOUGH. THE

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YOU KNOW, UNLESS WE'RE TIED INTO SOMETHING ELSE AND PEOPLE WOULDN'T NOTICE AS MUCH. WELL, I DON'T THINK IT MAKES SENSE. YEAH. LONG TERM, THIS IS WHAT'S FRUSTRATING. IF RUMPKE WAS FORCED TO OPEN THE BOOKS AND TELL YOU WHAT THEY'RE PAYING FOR, WHICH THEY HAVE THE INFORMATION RECYCLING VERSUS ALL THOSE DIFFERENT THINGS, IF THE YARD WASTE, WE FIGURED OUT WHAT THAT NUMBER WAS. AND THEN WE HAD AN IDEA ABOUT, RIGHT, WHAT IS ORGANIC DROP OFF OR ORGANIC WASTE RATHER THAN TOTAL FOOD WASTE AND YARD WASTE COMBINED. THEN WE'VE GOT SOMETHING THAT APPLES TO APPLES TO TALK ABOUT. LIKE, HOW DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? THE FACT THAT IT DOESN'T, IT'S NOT OFFERED BY COMPOST EXCHANGE IS JUST DOESN'T ALLOW US TO DO THAT AT THE MOMENT. I HAVE TO BELIEVE THEY'RE GOING TO GET THERE EVENTUALLY, BUT THAT DOESN'T HELP US IN THIS SITUATION. SO. DO YOU NEED A MOTION OR IS THAT JUST A UNDERSTAND OF HOW WE WOULD WANT STAFF TO PRESENT IT, THAT STAFF WOULD PRESENT FOR COUNCIL THAT HERE'S THE PROGRAM.

WITH WHAT CASEY'S ESTIMATED OUT BEING AN ADDITIONAL. THE THE NET NUMBERS 104 AND CHANGE FROM AN ANNUALIZED BASIS FOR YEAR ONE. AND THEN GOING FORWARD, THE CITY WOULD PAY FOR THAT.

THEN FOR YEARS TWO THROUGH THREE AND WHATEVER PORTION OF YEAR ONE. I THINK THAT'S OKAY.

I GUESS MAYBE IN THE FORM OF A MOTION JUST SO WE HAVE JUST SO WE, I GUESS WE PROBABLY DO NEED A MOTION JUST SO EVERY MEMBER CAN CAN FORMALLY VOTE. SO JUST TO ACCEPT THE BID AS PROVIDED OR PRESENTED BY THE COMPOST EXCHANGE. YEAH, MAYBE IF, IF YOU WANT TO INCLUDE ANY OF THOSE CAVEATS, I'D PROBABLY BE HELPFUL FOR, FOR COUNCIL TO AND JUST TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT EXACTLY THEY'RE RECOMMENDING TO COUNCIL ON THIS BOARD. OKAY, LET'S TRY THIS OUT.

I MOVE TO ACCEPT THE PROPOSED COLLECTION BID FROM THE COMPOST EXCHANGE. WITH THE NOTATION THAT WE WOULD EXPECT THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY TO PICK UP THE BILL FOR ALL EXPENSES NOT COVERED BY THIS GRANT. AND THAT WOULD BE INCLUSIVE OF REPLACEMENT BAGS. AT WHATEVER NUMBER WE SAID. 30%. ANNUALLY. PERIOD. SO IT WAS ACCEPTED. PROPOSED COLLECTION, EXCEPT THE BID PROPOSED BY THE COMPOST EXCHANGE. WITH THE NOTATION. WE EXPECT THE NEW ALBANY, NEW ALBANY WOULD PICK UP THE BILL NOT COVERED BY THE GRANT AND INCLUDING THE LINERS. CORRECT.

DO WE NEED TO SAY LIKE WHILE ALSO LOOKING AT REDUCING THE COST OF THE DROP OFFS? WELL, NO, THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE I DON'T WANT TO CONVOLUTE THAT MADE A PROMISE THAT WE DON'T THINK IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. SO I'D RATHER OKAY, HANDLE THAT

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SO GIVE IT A BEAT. OKAY. SORRY. THAT'S OKAY. OKAY. MR. SCHUMACHER? YES. MR. BARNES.

YES, MISS. GALLO. YES. MR. KOSHER. YES. MISS. KOPPELMAN. YES. MR. BURAK, I'M GOING TO VOTE NO ON THIS ONE. I'M ABSOLUTELY FOR THE PROGRAM. I WOULD ABSOLUTELY PARTICIPATE, BUT I DON'T SEE THE BENEFIT TO THE CITY OVER AND ABOVE WHAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING. UNLESS WE CAN DRIVE PARTICIPATION BY MORE THAN 10 OR 20 OR WHATEVER, IT SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF MONEY OVER AND ABOVE WHAT WE'RE WE'RE DOING. SO. MOTION PASSES 5 TO 1. STEVE, ARE YOU GOING TO BE THE ONE PRESENTING? YES. OKAY. THAT'LL BE HELPFUL. WE SURE WANT ME TO. YEAH. GOOD LUCK. SO WE ALSO WANTED TO I THINK WE WENT THROUGH A LOT OF THIS ALREADY, BUT THERE'S TWO OTHER PIECES OF LEGISLATION GOING TO COUNCIL ON TUESDAY. IT'S FOR THE TRADITIONAL TRASH RECYCLING COLLECTION AND PROCESSING WITH TWO OF THOSE AGAIN REAL QUICK. TWO BIDS, 2679. IT'S INCREASING BY ABOUT $1.50 PER HOUSEHOLD PER MONTH. IT'S THERE'S NOT MUCH TO SAY HERE LOCALLY EITHER BECAUSE IT'S ALL STATUS QUO. IT'S IT'S CURRENTLY RUN AS OUR, OUR HAULER TODAY. AND RUMPKE HAS THE LOW BID. AND SO THEY AND THEIR AND THEIR BID OF BASICALLY SAID, NOTHING'S GOING TO CHANGE. WE'LL STAY ON THURSDAY. SO THIS REALLY REFLECTS LIKE THE STATUS QUO.

AGAIN THE VOLUME BASED RECEIVED ZERO BIDS FOR RECYCLING. PROCESSING ALREADY WENT THROUGH THE HISTORICAL COSTS ON. HERE WE RECEIVED TWO BIDS FROM CAME IN AT A MAXIMUM OF $30.30 $5 A TON FOR THE PROCESSING AND WASTE MANAGEMENT ALSO PUT IN A BID IN AT $135 A TON. AFTER REVIEW, THE CITY'S CONSORTIUM LEGAL COUNSEL, EASTMAN AND SMITH, RECOMMENDS THAT RUMPKE BE AWARDED THE BID. SO AGAIN, OUR CURRENT CONTRACT WITH RUMPKE IS STRUCTURED THE EXACT SAME WAY. SO THERE'S NOT MUCH MORE TO SAY HERE THAN IT IS ALSO THE STATUS QUO. AGAIN, THE ABSOLUTE MOST IT COULD COST WOULD BE $35 A TON FOR PROCESSING. BID ALSO INCLUDES THE SAME REVENUE SHARING OPTION WHERE OR OR CAVEAT THAT IF THE COMMODITY MARKET GOES UP, THE CITY WHO CURRENTLY PAYS IT COULD POTENTIALLY RECEIVE UP TO $20 PER TON E.G. WITH THE CITY WOULD MAKE MONEY. THAT WOULD BE WITH AN EXTREMELY HIGH RATE. MARKETS, WHICH WE HAVEN'T SEEN.

THE CONTRACT IS BASED ON TEARS. WHILE I GUESS TO A QUESTION EARLIER, WHILE THE. WITHIN RECENT YEARS. WHILE THE CONTRACT CURRENTLY COULD CHARGE UP TO $35, THE CITY HAS BEEN. I THINK REALIZING AND SEEING $5 A TON. SO WE HAVE BEEN PAYING A LITTLE LESS THAN $35 BASED ON THE COMMODITIES MARKET. SO WE ALSO WANTED TO HAVE THIS GROUP GIVE QUESTION OR GIVE GUIDANCE TO COUNSEL FOR THE SAME. JUST LIKE WITH COMPOSTING, MAKE A MOTION. SHOULD THE NEW ALBANY CITY COUNCIL CONTINUE CURBSIDE RECYCLING COLLECTION WITH OUR STATUS QUO PROGRAM, AND SHOULD IT ALSO CONTINUE DOING RECYCLING PROCESSING? SO THOSE WOULD BE TWO MOTIONS WE'D PASS ALG TO COUNCIL TO LET THEM KNOW WHAT THOSE GROUPS THOUGHTS ARE ON THOSE PROGRAMS. I MOTION TO ACCEPT THE RUMPKE STATUS QUO COLLECTION AND DISPOSAL AND YARD WASTE, AND IN ADDITION,

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GALLO. YES. MR. KOSHER. YES. MISS. KOPPELMAN. YES. MR. YES. MOTION PASSED. WELL, THANK YOU EVERYBODY. YEAH. FEEL FREE TO TUNE IN AT HOME OR ATTEND THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING ON THE 18TH. THIS IS REALLY APPRECIATE YOU. THESE ARE REALLY GOOD QUESTIONS. THIS WILL DEFINITELY HELP US OUT WHEN WE GO TO COUNCIL TO. WE'LL WORK ON GETTING A LOT OF THESE ANSWERS AND WE'LL FOLLOW UP WITH YOU GUYS AS WELL WITH COUNCIL'S, WITH COUNCIL'S ACTIONS, AND ALSO TO ANSWER A LOT OF THESE QUESTIONS, TO BE ASKED ABOUT THE COMPOSTING CONTRACT AND ITEMS LIKE THAT. SO THANK YOU. CONVERSELY, THANK YOU TO STAFF FOR THIS HAS BEEN A PROJECT THAT'S DONE REGARDLESS, BUT THE TAKING ON THE COMPOSTING PIECE OF THIS AND THEN PUTTING THE VOLUME BASED PROPOSITION TOGETHER WAS AMAZING. SO THANK YOU. I'M I'M PRESENTING. BUT DAVE HAS BEEN DOING ALL THE WORK. SO THANK YOU DAVE. LIKE HE'S THE ONE THAT'S HE I THINK HE HAS ROOM AND SPEED DIAL AND PROBABLY THE COMPOST EXCHANGE TOO. GO TEAM. YEAH. ALL RIGHT.

LET'S BACK OVER. ALL RIGHT. SO NOW WE COME TO THE SHORT PART OF THE PRESENTATION, WHICH IS THE 2027 WORK PLAN PRIORITIZATION. THINGS TO CONSIDER WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PROJECTS. ARE GREENHOUSE GAS REDUCTIONS INVOLVED. YOU KNOW, GREENHOUSE GASES CAUSE CLIMATE CHANGE. WE'VE SEEN THE EFFECTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE THROUGH OUR PROJECTS, ADDRESS GREENHOUSE GASES OR REDUCE GREENHOUSE GASES, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND EDUCATION. DO THE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING THAT YOU ADOPT, DO THEY INVOLVE THE PUBLIC IN EDUCATING THE PUBLIC? IS THERE ENERGY, WATER REDUCTION? IS THERE LONG, LONG TERM PROJECTS, LIKE SHORT TERM PROJECTS? ARE THEY SOME PROJECTS THAT CAN KIND OF BE CLUMPED TOGETHER, LIKE FROM AN EARTH DAY TO ARBOR DAY, AND WE KIND OF SPACE THEM OUT WITHIN THERE. THAT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. I KNOW WE WANT TO DO THEM ALL. I WANT TO DO THEM ALL, BUT I WON'T BE ABLE TO DO THEM ALL. SO JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND WHEN YOU'RE VOTING. AND THIS REALLY IS A PRIORITIZATION FOR ACTIONS FOR NEXT YEAR. IT'S NOT RANKING THEM. SO KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WELL. JUST LIKE THIS YEAR, WE HAD A GROUP OF PROJECTS IN MID-YEAR. MID-YEAR.

WE LOOK BACK, SEE WHAT WE ACCOMPLISHED, AND THEN WE ASKED YOU ALL WHAT YOU WANT, WHAT YOU WANTED US TO DO FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE YEAR. WE'LL DO THAT MODEL FOR NEXT YEAR.

THEY'RE CAUGHT SECTIONS. THESE ARE THE SAME AS THERE WERE LAST YEAR. I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH.

SO WITH THE CORE ACTIVITIES THIS HAS STAYED THE SAME WITH THE EXCEPTION OF I ADDED TWO OR MORE. SO TABLE AT TWO OR MORE FARMERS MARKET MAILINGS ABOUT WASTE COLLECTION EVENTS, ETC.

SO THAT'S THE ONE CHANGE FOR FOR THIS ONE FOR THE ONGOING PROGRAMS. SOME OF THESE USED TO BE IN THE NEW PROGRAMS, BUT I MOVED THEM OVER HERE BECAUSE THEY'RE CONTINUING ON. SO LIKE WITH OBVIOUSLY WITH THE GRANT PROGRAM, THE GREEN GUARDIANS PROGRAM, THAT'LL CONTINUE ON THE CLEANUP DATE, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL CONTINUE IN DEVELOPING A FRAMEWORK FOR COMMERCIAL COMPOST PROGRAM FOR VILLAGE CENTER. WE'RE KIND OF ALREADY STARTING THAT WORKING WITH SWACO, SO THOSE WILL CONTINUE ON. I DO WANT TO POINT OUT WITH THE GREEN GUARDIANS THAT IS ON YOUR LIST OF YOUR YOUR SHEET THERE, YOU DON'T NEED TO VOTE FOR THAT ONE BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY GOING TO BE IN NEXT YEAR'S WORK PLAN PRIORITIZATION. THIS IS WHERE I'M GOING TO JUMP TO THE SPREADSHEET. AND I APOLOGIZE BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE ANY COFFEE, BUT WE'LL TALK ABOUT NEW PROGRAMS, RESEARCH AND EDUCATION. SO LET ME DO THAT AND SHOW. I APOLOGIZE AGAIN, BECAUSE VERY SMALL. OKAY. I KNOW IT'S HARD TO READ. ALL THESE ARE ON YOUR HANDOUT. WELL, MOST OF THEM YOU ATTEND THE SUMMIT ON SUSTAINABILITY.

THAT'S ALREADY GOING TO ALREADY HAVE THAT. SO YOU DON'T NEED TO VOTE FOR THAT. THAT'S ALREADY GOING TO HAPPEN FOR THE INVESTIGATE OTHER SUSTAINABILITY BOARDS COMMISSIONS TO DETERMINE THE ROLE THEY PLAY IN THEIR COMMUNITIES. SO THAT WAS ON THIS PAST YEAR. SO THAT WILL BE UP AGAIN IF WE WANT TO DO THAT. YOU CAN SEE RIGHT HERE. SO FOUR OUT OF FIVE MEANS IT'S PRETTY EASY TO ACCOMPLISH. SO KEEP THAT IN MIND. ALSO LEARNING

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AND CURRENTLY THAT'S CURRENTLY THAT'S YOU ALL WANT THAT TO START THIS YEAR. SO I KIND OF PUT THE CURRENTLY STARTED THERE. SO SOME OF THESE MIGHT ALREADY BE DONE BY NEXT YEAR. OR THEY COULD CARRY OVER DETERMINE HOW COMMUNITIES COMPLETE ANNUAL BENCHMARKING ACTIVITIES FOR CITY BUILDINGS, COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES AND MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. AGAIN, THIS IS JUST HAVING SOMEBODY COME IN AND TALKING ABOUT THE PROGRAM. I KNOW COLUMBUS HAS A BENCHMARKING PROGRAM, SO BE HEARING FROM THEM. IT'S NOT NECESSARILY ADOPTING ONE, NOT NECESSARILY MAKING A MOTION, BUT IT'S JUST HEARING ABOUT IT AND DELIBERATING AND ANSWERING ANY QUESTIONS. THAT'S WHY IT'S FOUR OUT OF FIVE IS PRETTY EASY. RESEARCH CAPACITY AND BEST PRACTICES RELATED TO ALTERNATIVE FUEL VEHICLES, FUELING STATIONS AND CITY FLEET.

SO WE'RE CURRENTLY LOOKING AT THAT RIGHT NOW. AND WE HOPE TO HAVE SOMETHING BEFORE YOU ALL BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR OF WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING. BRINGING IN LOCAL PARTNERS AND ORGANIZATIONS TO SPEAK ABOUT THEIR SUSTAINABILITY. PROGRAMING AND EDUCATIONAL RESOURCES, INCLUDING SOLAR AND ALTERNATIVE ENERGY. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS FOR THIS YEAR, AND THIS LITTLE NOTE DOWN HERE IS JUST IN THE 2026 WORK PLAN. WE HAD NINE ACTIONS IN THIS CATEGORY, JUST TO GIVE YOU A SENSE. SO FOR. THIS, THIS ONE. AND SO I KNOW SOME OF YOU ALL HAD SENT ME RECOMMENDATIONS. SO I'M GOING TO CALL ON YOU IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT MORE, KIND OF MAKE A PITCH FOR IT, IF YOU WILL. SO THE MORE SEA AIR QUALITY MONITOR PROGRAM TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE IT'S WORKING WITH MORE SEED, IDENTIFY WHERE TO PUT AIR QUALITY MONITORS FROM THEIR WEBSITE. MORE SEA AND FRANKLIN COUNTY PUBLIC HEALTH HAVE PARTNERED TO ESTABLISH THE COMMUNITY LED ENHANCED AIR QUALITY NETWORK, A NETWORK OF AIR QUALITY SENSORS THAT MEASURE AIR POLLUTANTS NEIGHBORHOOD BY NEIGHBORHOOD IN FRANKLIN COUNTY. BY GATHERING MORE DATA AT THE LOCAL LEVEL.

THIS PROJECT WILL HELP GUIDE THE STRATEGIES THAT GO INTO MAKING THE REGION'S AIR HEALTHIER AND EASY TO BREATHE. CHARLES, I KNOW YOU ARE CHAIR. I KNOW YOU HAD SENT ME THAT ONE.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE YOU WOULD LIKE TO CONTRIBUTE TO THAT. YEAH, THIS IS JUST ABOUT I WAS APPROACHED BY MORSI ABOUT THIS. SO CURRENTLY THIS IS A PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE BIT OF INFORMATION THAT MORSI IS WORKING ON, GETTING THE ENTIRE COUNTY COVERED CURRENTLY, KIND OF IN OUR QUADRANT OF THE COUNTY. THERE'S ONE SENSOR THAT'S SOMEWHERE IN THE LINKS. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S PRIVATE OR PUBLIC. I WASN'T I DIDN'T GET THAT INFORMATION, BUT LIKE THE IDEA THAT WE COULD, FROM A CITY STANDPOINT, SUPPORT THE IDEA OF, OF BEING PART OF THIS BIGGER PROJECT BY UTILIZING SOME SPACE AROUND THE CITY THAT MIGHT BE EITHER CITY OWNED AND THEN POTENTIALLY TAKING THIS TO THE QUARTERLY SUSTAINABILITY STAKEHOLDERS MEETING AND GETTING SOME ADOPTION FROM EITHER GOLF COURSES OR THE SCHOOL TYPE OF THING. SO REALLY, JUST THE IDEA OF IF WE'RE INTERESTED IN ENGAGING IN THE PROJECT, THIS WOULD BE A MATTER OF HAVING THIS GUY COME OUT, GIVE A PRESENTATION, AND THEN THE BOARD CAN FIGURE OUT AT THAT POINT SOMETHING WE WANTED TO PROPOSE TO COUNCIL OR NOT.

OKAY. I WAS USING THAT SITE FREQUENTLY WITH THE THE FIRES WERE GOING ON. YEAH. WHETHER WE HAVE PRACTICE OR NOT, LIKE THERE YOU GO. ARE WE? YEP. SO IT'D BE NICE TO HAVE MORE LOCALIZED DATA BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S I THINK IT'S IF I UNDERSTAND IT CORRECTLY, IT'S DONE ON MODELING. SO IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S PEACHES AND CREAM BECAUSE THEY, THEY ASSUME THAT THERE'S SO MANY TREES AROUND HERE THAT IT'S WHATEVER IT IS. AND THAT ONE MONITOR KIND OF GIVES YOU SOME INFORMATION. SO. THAT'S MY OOPS, I CLICKED THE WRONG THING. SO NEXT ONE IS RESEARCH THE FEASIBILITY OF COMPOST FACILITY IN NEW ALBANY. IF FEASIBLE, IDENTIFY NEXT STEPS. SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S CURRENTLY GOING ON RIGHT NOW. SO RESEARCHING THE COST,

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NOT NECESSARILY. IT'S NOT NECESSARILY ADOPTING IT, BUT IT'S DOING THE RESEARCH ON IT.

GOT IT. OKAY. YEAH. I WAS GOING TO I WAS GOING TO SAY, I WOULD RECOMMEND THE BOARD STILL VOTE ON IT TONIGHT IF THAT'S IMPORTANT TO YOU, JUST SO IT HELPS GUIDE THE CITY STAFF SO WE KNOW HOW MUCH TIME TO TO, YOU KNOW, TO DEDICATE TO THAT AND KEEP THAT PROCESS FORWARD.

SO I THINK THAT WILL HELP, YOU KNOW, AS, AS DAVE SAID, LIKE, WELL, WE'VE STARTED, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE VOTING TONIGHT WILL PROVIDE AN INDICATION FOR US FOR, YOU KNOW, IF WE NEED TO REALLY PUSH THAT FORWARD IN THE NEXT YEAR. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT COMPOSTING YARD WASTE AND FOOD WASTE? AND HOW WOULD THAT. MISSING OR IS THAT. YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. AND THAT'S, YEAH, WHAT WE NEED TO RESEARCH TO FIND OUT RIGHT NOW. IT COULD BE ANY OF THOSE OR ALL OF THOSE. THAT'S KIND OF THE THING WE GOT TO FIGURE OUT LIKE THE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF COMPOSTING FACILITIES, WHAT TYPE OF LICENSES THEY NEED, WHAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE MORE, DO YOU NEED MORE SPACE BASED ON THAT SPACE? WHERE COULD IT GO? BUT YEAH, THAT'S EXACTLY WHERE WE'RE AT NOW AS FAR AS LIKE WHAT OPPORTUNITIES THERE ARE IN THE CITY AND HOW WOULD THAT DOVETAIL WITH OUR FOOD WASTE COMPOSTING PROGRAM? WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT? YEAH, WE MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT LIKE TRANSPORTATION COSTS. YOU KNOW, ANOTHER THING WE COULD EXPLORE IS PARTNERING WITH, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE COMPOST EXCHANGE OR ANOTHER ONE TO DROP OFF AT THIS LOCATION TO POTENTIALLY REDUCE COSTS. SO I SAY POTENTIALLY, BECAUSE IT'S ALL JUST IN OUR, IN OUR MINDS RIGHT NOW AS AN IDEA. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S POSSIBLE, BUT SOMETHING WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN THINKING OF AND WANT TO WANT TO KNOW FROM THIS GROUP IF WE SHOULD CONTINUE EXPLORING THAT. NEXT WE HAVE SCHWEIKERT WOODS NATURE PRESERVE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. SO IDENTIFY 1 OR 2 ACTIVITIES THAT INVOLVE SPIRIT WOODS AND THE COMMUNITY.

EXAMPLES LITTER CLEANUP, WALKING TOURS, TREE PLANTING, VERNAL POOL MONITORING, TRAIL RESTORATION. MAYBE LAYING DOWN SOME MULCH TEAM AND THIS COULD BE A TEAM UP WITH THE GREEN GUARDIANS. THE NEXT ONE IS RESEARCH FEASIBILITY OF A RECYCLING CONVENIENCE CENTER.

IF FEASIBLE, WORK TOWARDS BUILDING ONE. SO THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING SIMILAR. LIKE A CITY, WORTHINGTON HAS A CONVENIENT RECYCLING CONVENIENCE CENTER, SO IT'D BE JUST FIGURING OUT, YOU KNOW, OUT OF EVERYTHING THAT COULD BE ACCEPTED, WHAT IS WHAT ARE THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT? IN CONJUNCTION WITH SWACO, WE'RE NOT JUST DOING A ROGUE THING, RIGHT? YEAH. MAYBE TEAMING UP. YEAH, WE'VE ALREADY WE'VE ALREADY TALKED WITH THEM A LITTLE BIT. WE'VE WE'VE VISITED WORTHINGTON'S RECYCLING CONVENIENCE CENTER. SO WE'VE ALREADY KIND OF STARTED THAT BALL, BUT IT'S JUST TAKING A LITTLE, TAKING IT DOWN TO THE NEXT LEVEL OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF WE ACCEPTED THIS, HOW MUCH IS THAT GOING TO COST? WHERE IS IT GOING TO BE STORED? THE LOGISTICS OF IT. OKAY. JUST AT THE WORTHINGTON LOCATION, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S PRETTY WELL RUN AND PRETTY ORGANIZED. IT WASN'T MESS ANYWHERE. IT WAS JUST A NICE, EASY TO USE. THEY DO A REALLY GOOD JOB OVER THERE WITH IT. NEXT ONE IS LAWNMOWER EXCHANGE. SO THIS WOULD BE PARTNERING WITH THE HOME IMPROVEMENT STORE TO OFFER TEN DISCOUNTS ON ELECTRIC LAWN MOWERS. SO RESIDENTS TRADE IN AN OLD GAS POWERED LAWNMOWER THAT GETS RECYCLED, AND THEN THEY GET 50% OFF A NEW ELECTRIC MOTOR. SO THE CITY MOWER, THE CITY WOULD BE PAYING FOR THOSE DISCOUNTS. AND THEN GAS MOWERS OBVIOUSLY CONTRIBUTE TO POOR AIR QUALITY, ACCORDING TO THE US EPA. ABOUT A IF YOU REMEMBER THE EXXON VALDEZ, I KNOW NOT EVERYBODY PROBABLY DOES, BUT BASICALLY EVERY YEAR ABOUT AN EXXON VALDEZ AMOUNT OF OIL IS SPILLED THROUGH LAWN EQUIPMENT, GAS POWERED EQUIPMENT. I KNOW WHEN I WAS A KID, I WASN'T EXACTLY A GOOD AIM IN GAS. WE KIND OF SPILLED A LITTLE BIT OR THE OIL. SO THIS WOULD BE HELPING WITH THAT, REDUCING THAT. BUT THAT'S THAT'S ONE THING THAT'S UP THERE. AND THAT WOULD BE FOR THE PUSH MOWERS, NOT THE RIDING MOWERS, THE SUCCESS STORY BOOK. SO THIS WOULD COMPILE AT LEAST THREE RESIDENT COMMUNITY SUCCESS STORIES AROUND SUSTAINABILITY. AND SUSTAINABILITY, AS YOU KNOW, IS IS VERY BROADLY DEFINED. SO THAT COULD BE THAT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, DOING INTERVIEWS,

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THIS IS SORT OF STARTED AT SWACO DOES WORK IN THAT AREA. I'M NOT SURE IF THEY'VE THEY'VE LOOKED AT NEW ALBANY YET, BUT THEY'RE LOOKING AT OTHER AREAS IN, IN OUR COUNTY. BUT THAT WOULD BASICALLY BE JUST WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE, ENGAGING THEM, FINDING OUT THAT THEY HAVE RECYCLING. IF THEY DON'T, WHY DON'T THEY RECYCLING? WHAT ARE THE OBSTACLES? TEAMING UP WITH SWACO TO PROVIDE? SWACO HAS RESOURCES THAT THEY CAN OFFER THOSE THOSE BUSINESSES REGARDING RECYCLING, GREEN BUSINESS ROUNDTABLE EXPLORE OPPORTUNITIES WITH THE CHAMBER TO TO HOLD QUARTERLY MEETINGS WITH BUSINESSES ON SUSTAINABLE TOPICS. SO THIS WOULD BE VERY SPECIFIC TOPIC. SO IT COULD BE HOW TO DEVELOP A INTERNAL E-WASTE RECYCLING PROGRAM VERSUS JUST, YOU KNOW, CONSERVING ENERGY. SO IT WOULD BE VERY MUCH SPECIFIC.

OBVIOUSLY, WE TEAM UP WITH THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND WE WOULD BRING IN EXPERTS ON THE DIFFERENT AREAS DEPENDING ON WHAT TOPIC WE DECIDE TO FOCUS ON. THE NEXT ONE IS A COMBINATION OF SWACO SAVE MORE THAN FOOD CAMPAIGN AND RECYCLE.

RIGHT? I KNOW NEW ALBANY HAS PARTICIPATED IN ONE, IF NOT BOTH OF THOSE IN YEARS PAST, AND THAT IS EDUCATING THE COMMUNITY ABOUT HOW TO SAVE, HOW TO SAVE FOOD. YOU KNOW, ALL THOSE TIPS AND TRICKS ON HOW TO DO THAT, HOW TO COMPOST. AND THEN WITH RECYCLE, RIGHT? IT'S AGAIN, REMINDING PEOPLE WHAT GOES IN THE RECYCLING, WHAT DOESN'T GO IN THE RECYCLING.

AND THEY KIND OF ALTERNATE THOSE. SO IF WE DID ONE OF THOSE NEXT YEAR, WE DO SAVE MORE THAN FOOD NEXT YEAR. THEN THE YEAR AFTER THAT, MAYBE WE DO RECYCLE, RIGHT? BUT YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE THEM GOING ON DURING THE SAME YEAR. NEXT IS HOST ONE REPAIR CAFE. SO THAT IS AN EVENT WHERE RESIDENTS CAN BRING IN BROKEN ITEMS AND SEE IF THEY CAN GET FIXED BY THE EXPERTS. WE DECIDE WHAT TYPE OF THINGS ARE ACCEPTABLE TO BE LOOKED AT, AND WE LINE UP THE EXPERTS. IT'S THERE'S A SMALL FEE TO USE THE ACTUAL TERM REPAIR CAFE NAME.

WE WOULD MEET WITH SUSTAINABLE WESTERVILLE. THEY'VE DONE IT. I BELIEVE THEY'VE DONE THIS IN BEXLEY AS WELL. SO WE WOULD TALK WITH OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE ALREADY DONE IT TO LEARN THE BEST PRACTICES WITH IT. NATIONAL WILDLIFE FEDERATION'S MAYOR'S MONARCH CHALLENGE. SO BY TAKING THE MAYOR'S MONARCH PLEDGE, WE ARE COMMITTING TO BOTH RESTORE HABITAT IN OUR COMMUNITY AND ENCOURAGE RESIDENTS TO DO THE SAME. THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD HAVE WOULD BE THE MAYOR WOULD TAKE A PLEDGE, OBVIOUSLY. SO STYROFOAM COLLECTION EVENT HOLD ONE STYROFOAM COLLECTION EVENT, EITHER STANDALONE OR PART OF AN EXISTING EVENT FOR NEXT YEAR. IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, THERE COULD BE A CAVEAT THERE TOO, DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH STYROFOAM WE COLLECT IN DECEMBER THIS YEAR. NEXT ONE IS FAIRLY LENGTHY. SO HOLD SUMMER HOLD MONTH, SUMMER MONTHLY GREEN CLASSES, SPEAKER SERIES. SO EXAMPLE, MAYBE A GARDEN WITH NATIVE PLANTS AND LANDSCAPING, GROWING VEGETABLES, EQUITY AND CLIMATE RESILIENCE, ZERO WASTE PANEL, MAYBE A FILM SCREENING CLIMATE CHANGE IMPACT ON CENTRAL OHIO, HOW TO GREEN YOUR HOME, THINGS LIKE THAT. THAT COULD BE SOMETHING. MAYBE IT'S FOR EARTH DAY TO ARBOR DAY. HOLD A COSTUME SWAP IN, YOU KNOW, ANY MONTH REALLY. I GUESS IT WOULD BE SEPTEMBER, RIGHT? SO THIS WOULD BE RESIDENTS WOULD DONATE THEIR OLD COSTUMES.

MUST BE CLEAN AND NOT TORN IN THE CITY CENTRAL LOCATION WHERE RESIDENTS CAN LAY THEM. OR THE CITY COULD LAY THEM OUT AND FOLKS COULD COME IN AND TAKE WHAT THEY WHAT THEY WANT. AGAIN, THIS HAS BEEN DONE IN OTHER COMMUNITIES, SO WE WOULD JUST TALK WITH THOSE OTHER COMMUNITIES TO FIND OUT WHAT THE BEST PRACTICES ARE AND LESSONS LEARNED. PHOTO CONTESTS IN APRIL FOR EARTH MONTH. SO IT COULD BE WHAT DOES EARTH, EARTH, EARTH DAY MEAN TO YOU? HOLD A

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WHICH CHAIR, I THINK YOU HAD MENTIONED THIS AT ANOTHER MEETING. YES, WE WE'D MADE A MOTION THAT WAS APPROVED TO PUT THIS ON. I THINK IT WAS THE MARCH MEETING. SO BECAUSE WE KIND OF GOT AHEAD OF THAT. SO IS THAT IS THAT SOMETHING. SO I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER WHAT THE MOTION WAS FOR THAT IT WAS IT WAS JUST LET ME DIG THAT UP JUST A MOMENT. SORRY. I SHOULD HAVE KEPT IT OPEN. WHILE YOU'RE LOOKING THAT UP, I'LL JUST POINT OUT WITH THE GREEN GUARDIANS THE NEXT ONE, WE ALREADY KIND OF TALKED ABOUT THAT, BUT THAT WILL CONTINUE ON.

THAT PROGRAM WILL CONTINUE ON. AND THEN IT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, CHECKING WITH THE SCHOOLS TO SEE IF WE CAN GET PRE-APPROVED PROJECTS PRE-APPROVED WHERE THE STUDENTS CAN VOLUNTEER THEIR HOURS FOR THAT. BECKY, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAD ANY OR COUNCIL MEMBER COMPLIMENT IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER ADDITIONS TO THAT ONE, PETE WOULD KNOW BETTER. BUT I JUST KNEW, LIKE MY SON HAS JUST STARTING HIGH SCHOOL. AND AS YOU KNOW, ALL THE HIGH SCHOOLERS HERE HAVE TO COMPLETE 25 HOURS OF COMMUNITY SERVICE. AND THERE'S LIKE A PRE-APPROVED LIST, YOU KNOW, TO FOR THE KIDS WHEN THEY'RE LOOKING FOR VOLUNTEER HOURS. AND I THOUGHT IF THE GREEN GUARDIANS WAS JUST LIKE A DIRECT LINK ON THERE, THAT WOULD GIVE US SOME MORE HELPERS THAT SOME OF THESE EVENTS AND BE A REALLY EASY WAY JUST TO MAKE THEM AWARE THAT WE'RE AN OPTION FOR THEM. YEAH, THAT SHOULDN'T BE THAT HARD, BUT I THINK IT'S A REALLY GOOD IDEA. MAYBE ACADEMY TO. READY TO GO BACKWARDS. THE MOTION WAS APPROVED RECOMMENDING THAT CITY STAFF DEVELOP A LONG TERM TREE CANOPY INSTALLATION PLAN FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL BY CITY COUNCIL AS PART OF THE BOARD'S 2027 WORK PLAN AND BUDGET PROPOSAL. IT'S FROM THE MINUTES. OKAY, SO THEN THAT'S ALREADY ALREADY ON YOUR WORK PLAN? YES. BLESSED. THAT'S ALREADY VOTED FOR IT. SO I'M TAKING IT BACK.

YEAH. WITH INCREASING COMMUNITY AWARENESS OF SUSTAINABILITY EFFORTS. I. LIKE THIS. OH, THAT'S EVEN WORSE. YOU CAN'T EVEN READ THAT UP THERE, CAN YOU? OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER KOPPELMAN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS OR. I WAS JUST THINKING THAT THERE ARE SO MANY EVENTS THAT OUR CITY ALREADY HOLDS WHERE WE COULD JUST HAVE A VERY SMALL PRESENCE, LIKE OKTOBERFEST OR LIKE THE OUTDOOR MOVIES, OR JUST PLACES WHERE OUR COMMUNITY IS GATHERING. ANYWAY, THAT WOULD BE KIND OF A LOW IMPACT WAY FOR US TO TELL PEOPLE WE EXIST. I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF IMPORTANT THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING, AND EVEN WHEN THERE'S ARTICLES, LIKE I MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, I SAW DAVE AND AN ARTICLE, IT WAS AWESOME. IT WAS LIKE A REALLY NICE INTERVIEW THAT TALKED ABOUT THE COMPOST EXCHANGE. BUT I THINK THERE'S SOME MISSED OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE COULD CAPITALIZE ON BETTER, LIKE OUR BOARD AND ALL OF OUR KEY INITIATIVES WEREN'T MENTIONED IN THAT ARTICLE. AND THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A GREAT PLACE TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THERE IS A BOARD WORKING ON THIS. IT IS AN IMPORTANT PILLAR OF OUR COMMUNITY. AND HERE'S THE LINK TO THE WEBSITE. EVEN JUST SOMETHING SMALL LIKE THAT. SO KIND OF INCREASING LIKE THE TABLING PRESENCE AT EVENTS AND THEN LOOKING AT THE FARMER'S MARKET, LIKE, I THINK THAT WAS GREAT. THERE'S THINGS THAT ALREADY EXIST AND TO PIGGYBACK ON THOSE COULD BE A SMART WAY TO JUST. BUG FEST THIS MORNING SO THAT WE, I THINK WE HAD LIKE 200 PEOPLE. YEAH. PARENTS AND KIDS SWING BY THE TABLE. THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN. YEAH. SO YEAH, WE GAVE OUT. WE HAD COLORING PAGES OF BUGS AND RECYCLING SYMBOL. AND THEN WE HAD THE COMMUNITY BACKYARDS INFORMATION AND SOME OTHER INFORMATION THAT WE DON'T EVEN KNOW YOU WOULD BE THERE. SO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN. AND KIDS LIKE SUNGLASSES. I DID

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CONTINUE TO EXPLORE RECOGNITION FOR COMMUNITY BUSINESSES, BUSINESS EFFORTS IN SUSTAINABILITY. CHARITY RECOMMENDED. THAT IS. ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD WITH THAT ONE? WHICH ONE IS THIS? THE CITY WEBSITE? YEAH. NO SORRY. IT'S. THE THE PREVIOUS STAFF WORKED WITH MARKETING AND PUT TOGETHER A PAGE AND WE'VE KIND OF MODIFIED IT OVER TIME. I THINK THAT THERE'S JUST SOME WORK TO BE DONE TO MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE ROBUST. I PERSONALLY THINK

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LIKE I SEE THE COSTUME SWAP ON HERE. I FEEL LIKE THERE ARE A LOT OF REALLY, FOR LACK OF BETTER WORD, JUST LIKE CUTE IDEAS LIKE THAT THAT ARE, I DON'T KNOW, THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX, LIKE SUSTAINABILITY IS SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS AND WE RIGHTFULLY ARE FOCUSED ON WASTE DIVERSION AND THE ENVIRONMENT. BUT I THINK THERE ARE WAYS WE CAN, LIKE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT LIKE OLD CLOTHING SWABS OR I MENTIONED THAT BEXLEY DID LIKE A GRADUATION CAP AND GOWN RECYCLING BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE JUST PUT IT IN THEIR CLOSET FOREVER. SO WHY NOT REUSE THOSE? I THINK THERE ARE LITTLE THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WE COULD LOOK INTO LONGER TERM.

THAT'S PROBABLY PART OF LIKE THE FIRST RESEARCH AND PLANNING OBJECTIVE, JUST LIKE SEEING WHAT OTHER SUSTAINABILITY BOARDS ARE DOING. BUT I THINK THERE ARE LITTLE THINGS LIKE THAT THAT ARE GREAT IDEAS FOR WAYS TO REUSE THINGS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN A BIG PART OF OUR PLAN YET, BUT ARE JUST KIND OF A DIFFERENT AVENUE OF SUSTAINABILITY THAT COULD GET PEOPLE, OH, THAT'S DIFFERENT. LIKE THAT'S MORE MY SPEED. LET'S CHECK THAT OUT. BUT I THINK IT'S THE COLORING BOOK AND COSTUME SWAPS AND RECYCLING PROM DRESSES OR GRADUATION GOWNS OR WHATEVER. YEAH, JUST TO PIGGYBACK ON THAT COMMENT, WHEN WE WERE KIND OF LOOKING THROUGH THIS LIST BEFORE THIS MEETING, YOU KNOW, SORT OF RECOGNIZING, AND THAT'S WHY WE KIND OF PUT THE THINGS TO CONSIDER. BUT YEAH, JUST, YOU KNOW, IF IT'D PROBABLY BE EASIER TO IMPLEMENT MANY SMALL THINGS VERSUS, YOU KNOW, ONE BIG THING. THERE'S ALSO SOME EASE OF IMPLEMENTATION ON HERE AS WELL. BUT JUST AS YOU WERE SAYING SOMETHING ELSE FOR THIS GROUP TO CONSIDER IS THAT, YEAH, WE NOTICED THERE'S, YOU KNOW, SOME THINGS THAT COULD BE SOME, YOU KNOW, QUICKLY IMPLEMENTABLE ITEMS THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT FOR THIS GROUP AND CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, STRATEGICALLY BECAUSE THAT WILL HELP US AS STAFF ALSO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF UNDERSTAND LIKE WHERE WE SHOULD START. BUT YEAH, WE, WE POTENTIALLY COULD GET A LOT OF LITTLE THINGS DONE OR MAYBE JUST ONE BIG THING NEXT YEAR. SO YEAH, I THINK, I THINK SOME OF THE LITTLE THINGS HAVE NOT RISEN BEFORE BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN SCHOOL RELATED AND THE SCHOOL'S DONE IT. SO THERE IS A GOWN EXCHANGE. AT LEAST I WAS WHEN MY KIDS WERE STILL GRADUATING. I THINK THERE WAS A PROM DRESS. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S HAPPENED, BUT IT'S BEEN A PTO KIND OF DRIVEN THING. BUT NOT TO SAY THAT WE COULDN'T SUPPORT DOING IT AND ASK THE QUESTIONS, BUT I THINK THAT THAT'S YEAH, THOSE HAVE BEEN MORE KIND OF HOMEGROWN IN THE SCHOOL LEVEL PREVIOUSLY. OKAY. BUT STILL, I THINK UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE EXISTING HELPING PROMOTE THEM WOULD BE CERTAINLY WORTHY. YEAH. OR MAYBE WE CAN BRAINSTORM ABOUT, LIKE YOU MENTIONED, LIKE THE EARTH DAY AND ARBOR DAY, LIKE WHAT COULD WE BUNDLE? BECAUSE WE COULD PROBABLY BUNDLE FOUR OF THESE THINGS IN THAT ONE EVENT, RIGHT? YEAH. SO THAT'S FUN. THAT WOULD BE FUN. YEAH. JUST AGAIN, GREAT IDEA. YEAH. JUST THINKING THERE ARE YEAH, A LOT OF SIMILAR THINGS. YOU COULD CREATE A PRETTY COOL EARTH TO ARBOR DAY PROGRAM BASED ON ALL THE, A LOT OF THINGS IN THIS LIST. I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF A LOT OF LITTLE THINGS AND JUST TRYING TO GO AFTER THE LOW HANGING FRUIT THAT HAS THE BIGGEST IMPACT, YOU KNOW, AS A WAY TO START IS GETTING THE LIST OF. THAT ANYONE COULD DO ON A DAILY BASIS. GREAT. SO WITHOUT HEARING ANY OTHER ADDITIONS, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO NOW IS TAKE ABOUT FIVE MINUTES. AND IF YOU CAN GO THROUGH THE PAPER THAT YOU HAVE THAT HAS ALL THESE ON THEM, AND WE ALL CHEATED, YOU ALREADY DID. ALRIGHT, SO IF SO, THEN GO TO THE THE MENTIMETER. IF YOU HAVEN'T DONE THAT. SO GET OUT YOUR CELL PHONES. IT'S OKAY TO HAVE A CELL PHONE NOW AND YOU'LL GO TO THE WEBSITE DOT COM. LET'S SEE IF THEY'VE ALREADY UPGRADED THE WEBSITE. CHARLES. LOOK AT THIS. IT'S LOW HANGING FRUIT. OKAY, SO IF YOU

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RAISE YOUR HAND IF I CAN GO ON TO THE NEXT I THINK THERE. OH WAIT, WE STILL GOT SOME MORE. I HADN'T HIT SUBMIT YET. I CAN SO WE NEED WE NEED SEVEN. YEAH, WE NEED SEVEN. THAT STILL SAYS SIX, RIGHT? I CAN'T SEE I THINK SO YEAH THAT'S RIGHT. TECHNOLOGY CHALLENGE. IT SAYS SIX OUT OF SIX. OKAY. SO WE'RE OKAY TO MOVE ON ONE OTHER PERSON. OKAY. BUT THAT'S SEVEN. OKAY. NOW WE'RE READY. YEAH. BECAUSE WE NEED SEVEN. OKAY. THIS IS GOING TO BE DIFFICULT. THE YOU GUYS, HAVE YOU HIT SUBMIT YET? HAVE YOU HIT SUBMIT YET? I DIDN'T OKAY, I DIDN'T ENTER IT IN ALL THESE THINGS HERE. I JUST READ IT. OKAY. OKAY. SO NO. YEP. I THINK WE GOT SEVEN TECHNOLOGY CHALLENGE. THAT'S RIGHT. SO TO YOUR POINT, YOU'RE NOT TAKING TEN OFF THE FIRST SCREEN BECAUSE THERE'S MULTIPLE SCREENS UNLESS YOU CHOSE TO, RIGHT? LIKE, OOPS, MAYBE THE SECOND ONE YET. SO WE GOT SOME, GOT A FEW RISING TO THE TOP THERE WITH FOUR VOTES. A FEW.

YEAH, ZERO VOTES OR ONE. OKAY. OKAY. YEAH.

I WANT TO DO THAT.

SORRY. THAT'S ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. THERE WE GO. FOR THAT. REMEMBER PAGE YOU GET TEN TOTAL.

WHAT HAPPENS IF WE PICK 11. IT WON'T LET YOU. YEAH. ARE THERE ONLY TWO PAGES? WE'RE NOT VOTING FOR ANYTHING RELATED TO GREEN GUARDIANS OR THE TREE CANOPY. RIGHT. DON'T WASTE A VOTE. IS THERE A THIRD PAGE? ALL RIGHT, USE IT ALL NOW. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. CASH OUT. I'LL TAKE IT WITH ME. ALL RIGHT.

SO MANY OPTIONS TO DO OVER TWO SCREENS. YEAH. GOOD PROBLEM TO HAVE.

EXACTLY. IMAGINE WE'RE DONE. WE DID IT ALL. ALL RIGHT. LOOKS LIKE EVERYBODY SIGNED IN. WE'VE HAD THREE PEOPLE COMPLETE THE VOTING. FIVE, SIX. OH, SO IT'S SAYING TEN CHOICES PER PAGE,

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ALL RIGHT. SORRY ABOUT THAT. WE'RE JUST ABOUT ANY READERS, BUT I CAN'T YET BECAUSE THEN I CAN'T SEE HER.

WAITING FOR ONE MORE PERSON TO HIT SUBMIT. SHE'S JUST LOOKING AT THE RESULTS. OH, OKAY. CHECKING IT OUT. YEAH. DOUBLE CHECK. EVERYBODY HIT SUBMIT. THERE SHOULD BE ONE MORE PERSON OR SOMETHING. SHE DIDN'T SIGN IN, THOUGH. YEAH. NO. WELL, DID YOU VOTE? DID YOU HIT SUBMIT? YOU'RE GOOD. OKAY, SO THEN WE SHOULD BE GOOD, RIGHT? YEAH. IT SAYS SEVEN PEOPLE HAVE SIGNED UP, BUT ONLY SIX PEOPLE HAVE SUBMITTED. WELL, NO, I THINK SIGNED IN, BUT SHE'S. OH, SHE SHE COULDN'T STOP HERSELF. ALL RIGHT. DOUBLE CHECKING WHO'S OUR SEVENTH PERSON. I, I, I HIT SUBMIT HIT SUBMIT. OKAY, I DID TOO. I DON'T WANT, I DON'T WANT TO GO IN AGAIN BECAUSE IT'LL LIKE RESET IT. RIGHT. I GOT THIS APP SCREEN. SO RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU HIT IT, IF YOU HIT SUBMIT. OKAY. SO ALL RIGHT. WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENED, BUT YEAH, GREAT. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL CALL IT COMPLETE THEN. COOL. THANKS, EVERYBODY.

AND THEN WE'LL GET THE WE'LL GET THE RESULTS OUT TO YOU ALL. I DID WANT TO JUMP BACK TO MISS GALLO. YOU ASKED ON THE SURVEY WHO DIDN'T PUT. THEY WERE 100% PLEASED WITH THE WINDSOR PROGRAM. SO SOMEBODY SAID THEY WERE PARTIAL. IT PARTIALLY MET THEIR EXPECTATIONS. THEY SAID THE PLASTIC BAGS ARE TOO THIN. IT IS EASY TO BE BROKEN. IT IS DIFFICULT TO MAINTAIN FOODS IN SUMMER AS IT SMELLS BAD. SO THAT'S THE FEEDBACK WE GOT FROM THAT PARTICULAR DOUBLE BAG. IT.

I THINK IF YOU PUT IT IN THE FREEZER FOR LONGER, IT'LL BE ALL RIGHT. I DON'T TAKE MINE OUT SO I DON'T HAVE THAT PROBLEM. ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE. SO THAT'S THAT'S ALL FOR

[VIII. Poll Members for Comment ]

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT I DON'T KNOW THE RIGHT WORD, BUT THAT WAS A WETLAND MITIGATION PROJECT. AND ASSUMING THAT A SMALLER WETLAND SOMEWHERE. AND WETLAND HERE.

AND I'M ASSUMING THAT THE PERMIT MOVED THE ARMY CORPS OR SOME OTHER ENTITY, AND THERE'S A MAINTENANCE REQUIREMENT. AND I'M WONDERING. WHY THIS WOULD BE HUGE IF IT IS TO. AND ALSO HOW MANY OTHER MITIGATION PROJECTS ARE IN THE CITY AND, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN MAINTAIN.

YEAH. SO I KNOW THAT WETLAND IS IN A CURRENT CONSERVATION EASEMENT. THIS PROPOSED PARK IMPROVEMENT DUE TO THOSE CONSERVATION EASEMENTS, I BELIEVE COULD ONLY BE USED FOR PASSIVE. SO IT'D BE SOMETHING LIKE TAYLOR FARM PARK WHERE IT'D BE BOARDWALKS. WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO REMOVE ANY OF THOSE EXISTING WETLANDS. AND THAT KITZMILLER AREA OR PROJECT INTO THE BUFFER ZONES THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. BUT THAT'S ALL STILL BEING PLANNED

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BASICALLY, THE SECRETARY IS JUST THIRD IN LINE FOR RUNNING A MEETING. IF BOTH OF THOSE OTHER PERSONS ARE NOT AVAILABLE AT A MEETING. SO I KNOW IN OTHER BOARDS, PEOPLE ARE SOMETIMES A LITTLE AFRAID TO TAKE THAT ROLE, BECAUSE I THINK THEY'LL BE TAKING MINUTES AND DOING ADMINISTRATIVE WORK. IT'S NONE OF THAT. YEAH. YOU'RE LOOKING AT YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE RIGHT HERE. YEAH. IT'S PURELY JUST RUNNING THE MEETING THIRD PERSON DOWN TO IT'S NEEDED IN THAT SCENARIO. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT. ALL RIGHT. IF NO OTHER COMMENTS, I MOVE TO ADJOURN THE MEETING AT 840. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. THANK YOU. BECKY. MISS CAMPBELL, DO YOU SEE REBECCA? I KIND OF DID THAT. I STARTED THAT. THAT'S GOING TO LET IT GO. MR. SCHUMACHER YES. MR. BARNES YES, MISS. YES. MR. YES, MISS. YES.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.