Sep 15, 2026 Capital Projects Workshop

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WHENEVER YOU'RE READY. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. WELCOME TO THE CITY WORKSHOP FOR TUESDAY, SEPTEMBERO 15TH. THE ROLL, PLEASE. MAYOR SPALDING HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER.

BRISK HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. DERRICK HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. KISS HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER MCCLELLAN EMAILED AND SAID IT WOULD BE CLOSE TO 530. SO I EXPECT AT ANY TIME. COUNCIL MEMBER SHAW HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER WILTROUT HERE. I CURRENTLY HAVE SIX PRESENT FOR THE SEPTEMBER 15TH, 2026 CAPITAL PROJECTS WORKSHOP. ALL RIGHT. WHICH STAFF AND COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO THE AGENDA? I HAVE RECEIVED NO

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I'LL I'LL MAKE IT. JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK REMARKS AND THEN I'LL TURN IT OVER TO CHRIS TO TO CITY MANAGER JOE, DO YOU WANT TO PUT YOUR. YOU SOUND QUIET. THANK YOU. SO YEAH, THIS IS YOUR FIRST START FORGETTING HOW TO. SO THANK YOU FOR COMMITTING THE TIME TONIGHT TO GO THROUGH THE CAPITAL WORKSHOP EACH YEAR. AS YOU KNOW, WE TRY TO TWEAK THINGS A LITTLE BIT TO TRY TO MAKE THE MAKE THE, THE PROJECT BETTER AND MORE MEANINGFUL FOR YOU. THIS YEAR WE'VE TAKEN ANOTHER LITTLE DIFFERENT APPROACH. OUR PLANNING STAFF IS GOING TO TAKE THE LEAD TONIGHT ON FACILITATION. AND THEY HAVE SOME I THINK THEY'VE THEY'VE REALLY RAISED THE BAR TONIGHT. SO I WANT TO FIRST OF ALL THANK THEM FOR ALL OF THEIR HARD WORK TO PREPARE FOR YOU TONIGHT. ALL OF THESE BOARDS AND ALL OF THE INFORMATION THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE. AND THEN I WANTED TO I THINK THERE'S A CRITICAL ITEM THAT I THINK REALLY MAKES ALL OF THIS HAPPEN TONIGHT. AND, AND THAT IS THE SUCCESS OF THE BUSINESS PARK. WITHOUT THE BUSINESS PARK, WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE TONIGHT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE. WE ARE GOING TO PROPOSE A PROGRAM TO YOU THAT IS BY FAR WE'VE EVER PROPOSED IN ANY

[5. COUNCIL STRATEGIC PRIORITIES & CAPITAL PRIORITIES]

THE FIRST PART OF THE PRESENTATION IS NOT INCLUDED IN THIS, IN THIS BINDER, BUT REALLY IT STARTS PICKING UP AFTER OUR BREAK. AND WE'LL BE SURE TO REFER YOU GUYS BACK TO THIS BINDER. BUT THIS IS AN EASY WAY FOR YOU GUYS TO FOLLOW ALONG THROUGHOUT OUR PRESENTATION TONIGHT. SO THE THEME OF TONIGHT IS THAT EVERYTHING, AND YOU GUYS HAVE HEARD THIS MANY, MANY TIMES, BUT EVERYTHING GOOD AND WELL, WHEN YOU START WITH GREAT PLANNING AND THIS YEAR YOU REALLY WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT. THAT REALLY STARTED AT THE COUNCIL LEVEL BEYOND, YOU KNOW, BEFORE ANYBODY YOU SEE THROUGHOUT THE PROGRAMS LATER THIS EVENING AND EVERYTHING THAT WE DID THIS YEAR, WE THAT WE ALWAYS DO ARE GUIDED BY THE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES THAT COUNCIL SETS. YOU CAN SET THESE BACK IN 2025. SO YOU'RE HERE ON YOUR SCREEN AS WELL AS THE CAPITAL PRIORITIES THAT YOU GUYS ESTABLISHED VILLAGE CENTER, RECREATIONAL AMENITIES, MAINTENANCE AND SUSTAINABILITY. SO I JUST SAY THIS JUST YOU'LL HEAR THIS THROUGHOUT OUR PRESENTATION TONIGHT AS WE GO ALONG. WE'RE EXCITED TO GET

[7. 2027 FISCAL OUTLOOK AND CAPITAL BUDGET FUNDING REVIEW]

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SO CURRENTLY THAT CHARGE IS PAYING FOR A DEBT. THAT WAS THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WAS RELATED TO OUR INITIAL INVESTMENT IN FACEBOOK. PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE DONE IT. THAT'S A LITTLE BIT BETTER. I'M SURE IT IS BETTER. SO THE ULTRA FAMOUS DOLLARS, I'LL STEP BACK NOW. THE CITY'S PRIMARY SOURCE OF REVENUE IS MUNICIPAL INCOME TAX, WITH THE LARGER SOURCE BEING WITHHOLDING FROM THE BUSINESS PARK. EACH $1 OF TAX REVENUE RECEIVED BY THE CITY IS ALLOCATED BASED ON THE TYPE AND SOURCE OF THE INCOME TAX RECEIPT. MOST OF THE INCOME TAX GENERATED FROM THE BUSINESS PARK IS SHARED WITH RELEVANT SCHOOL DISTRICT. IF THE BUSINESS IS RECEIVING PROPERTY TAX ABATEMENTS AFTER AN ALLOCATION FOR THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, INFRASTRUCTURE AND WATER AND SEWER AGREEMENT, IF APPLICABLE, SO THAT SHARES 31%. WHAT ENDS UP BEING RETAINED BY THE CITY AND ABLE TO BE USED FOR CAPITAL AND OTHER GENERAL OPERATING RESOURCES, IS NOW, ON AVERAGE, 69%. FURTHERMORE, THAT ALLOCATION IS BROKEN DOWN BETWEEN THE GENERAL FUND RECEIVING THE HIGHEST PERCENTAGE AND THEN THE OTHER CAPITAL FUNDS RECEIVED OF VARIOUS PERCENTAGES. SO CURRENTLY THE DISTRIBUTION OF REVENUE, AS YOU MAY RECALL, IS 83.5% OF THE GENERAL FUND. AND WE ALLOCATE VARIOUS FUNDS TO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PARK IMPROVEMENT, VILLAGE CENTER IMPROVEMENT. AND JUST AS A REMINDER, THIS ALLOCATION MAY BE UPDATED BY COUNCIL WITHIN THE CODIFIED ORDINANCES WHEN IT'S DEEMED APPROPRIATE.

GETTING INTO SOME OF THE FISCAL OUTLOOK, I WILL SAY THAT WE ARE FURTHER ALONG IN OUR PROJECTIONS THIS YEAR, BECAUSE WE'VE HAD TO KIND OF PUT THE PENCIL TO THE PAPER TO FIGURE OUT, TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE'RE PRESENTING TO YOU IS SOUND WITHIN OUR PROJECTIONS, OUR NET PROFIT SINCE 2020, WE'VE HAD STRONG GROWTH THAT'S ALLOWED FOR INCREASED REVENUE IN THE GENERAL FUND. OUR PROJECTIONS THAT I HAVE SO FAR IS BUDGETED FOR CONSERVATIVE GROWTH AS WELL. I WOULD SAY THAT THE CURRENT NET PROFIT ACCOUNTS INVOLVES A CONCENTRATION OF REGULAR NET PROFIT PAYERS THAT I'M ABLE TO PULL OUT OF BASE AND THEN CONSERVATIVELY GROW THOSE PARTICULAR TAXPAYERS SO THAT WE'RE NOT COUNTING ON VOLATILE INCOME TAX, INDIVIDUAL INCOME TAX. VOLATILE YEAR TO YEAR, NO CONSISTENT UNDERLYING TREND AT ALL. I WILL SAY 2026 IS A PARTICULARLY INTERESTING YEAR WITH THAT. BUT BUDGETS FOR 27 TO 2031, WE'RE CONSIDERING WHAT KNOWN LARGE FILERS THAT WE HAVE. AND LOOKING AT THEIR NORMAL CONTRIBUTION WITH A MODEST AND CONSISTENT GROWTH APPLIED TO THAT WITHHOLDING, INCLUDES CONSTRUCTION WITHHOLDING, AND WHICH HAS BEEN THE LARGEST SOURCE OF, I WOULD SAY, GROWTH WITHIN THAT CATEGORY AND ALLOWED US TO BE ABLE TO INVEST IN SOME PRETTY SIGNIFICANT THINGS. AND THAT CONTINUES TO GROW AS DEVELOPMENT HAPPENS WITHIN THE BUSINESS PARK. JUST SORRY, JUST A QUESTION. WHEN YOU SAY THAT IT IS A SUBSTANTIAL SHARE OF GENERAL

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THE 2026 ACTUAL IS AS OF AUGUST. WE'VE NOT POSTED SEPTEMBER YET. SO WE'RE WELL ON OUR WAY TO LAST YEAR'S RECEIPTS. ANNUAL PROGRAMS. YOU GO TO THE NEXT ONE. SO ANNUAL PROGRAMS THAT YOU'VE TRADITIONALLY FUNDED OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS THAT WE'VE HAD A REGULAR CADENCE WITH, THOSE ARE PRIMARILY FUNDED BY THE INCOME TAX REVENUE. THE STREET FUND IS SUPPLEMENTED BY STREET GAS AND GAS TAX THAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO. BUT THE MAIN SOURCES FOR ALL OF THOSE PROGRAMS ARE INCOME TAX, FOR THE MOST PART. NOW YOU GET TO TALK TO RYAN. I WAS GOING TO COME UP THERE, BUT THAT WOULD PROBABLY TAKE ME LONGER THAN TO JUST JUST READ THIS. I'VE GOT ANNUAL PROGRAMS. SO WE HAVE OUR ANNUAL STREET PAVING MAINTENANCE PROGRAM SCHEDULED FOR $4 MILLION. AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO TAKE CARE OF OUR STREETS AND KEEP THEM ALL AT THAT PAVEMENT CONDITION INDEX OF 80 OR BETTER. IF THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDS REMAINING AT THE END OF THE YEAR, THEY'LL THEY'LL RETURN. RIGHT. CAN YOU JUST REMIND US ON AN ANNUAL BASIS WHAT OUR STREET PAVING MAINTENANCE PROGRAM HAS BEEN? I MEAN, 4 MILLION SEEMS LIKE AN INCREASE, BUT I CAN'T RECALL OFFHAND WHAT IT WAS OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS, IT WAS AN INCREASE OF 250 000. AND WE'VE STEPPED THAT UP TWICE NOW. SO WE'RE ON THE SECOND ITERATION OF THAT. AND WE CURRENTLY HAVE THAT PROGRAMED INTO THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS AS WELL, TO ACCOUNT FOR THE ADDITIONAL ROAD WORK THAT WE HAVE OUT IN THE BUSINESS PARK, AS ALL OF THOSE WARRANTIES ARE COMING OFFLINE AND THE CITY IS GOING TO START TO INHERIT IT. GRANTED THAT THOSE ARE ALL NEW ROADWAYS. AND SO WE'VE GOT SOME TIME, BUT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK WE'RE LOOKING AT THINGS LIKE REJUVENATION, CRACK SEALING, AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS OUT THERE. SO IT'LL PROBABLY LEVEL OUT FOR A PERIOD OF TIME. AND THEN ONCE WE GET INTO, YOU KNOW, TEN YEARS, ONCE THE BUSINESS PARK, NEW ROADS REALLY START TO NEED THAT MILL AND OVERLAY, WE'LL SEE ANOTHER STEP. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. IF I COULD JUMP IN SEVERAL YEARS AGO, PROBABLY GOING BACK AT LEAST 3 OR 4 YEARS AGO, WE WERE AVERAGING ABOUT $1 MILLION A YEAR FOR ACTUAL RESURFACING. AND WE HAD THE ADDITIONAL CRACK SEALING AND MAINTENANCE THAT RYAN WAS TALKING ABOUT. AND ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO, I THINK WE 2 OR 3 YEARS AGO, WE BUMPED IT UP TO ABOUT 3 MILLION. AND THEN WE'VE BEEN INCREASING IT INCREMENTALLY SINCE THEN. SO

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AND THIS ONE AGAIN IS UNCHANGED AT 200 000. WE CONTINUE TO MAKE OUR WAY THROUGH ALL THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS. AND THEN THIS PROGRAM WOULD THEN CLOSE OUT UNLESS COUNCIL WOULD DESIRE OTHERWISE. BUCKET NUMBER FOUR IS THE TRAIL GAPS AND TRAIL EXTENSIONS. AND SO THIS ONE, WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT WE INCREASE IT FOR 300 ZERO ZERO $0 NEXT YEAR. AND THIS WOULD BE A ONE TIME INCREASE. THIS IS NOT THIS WOULD NOT BE A YEAR OVER YEAR INCREASE. AND THE REASON IS, IS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT ADDITIONAL BUDGET TO COVER MISSING TRAIL GAPS ALONG STATE ROUTE 605, PARTICULARLY BETWEEN NOTTINGHAM TRACE AND THE NEW I WANT TO SAY DISCOVER SITE. BUT THE NEW SCHOOL CAMPUS ATHLETIC CAMPUS. THANK YOU. AND THEN WE HAVE OUR TRAIL IMPROVEMENTS AND MAINTENANCE. AND THIS ONE IS 300 000. THIS IS A PRETTY STANDARD BUCKET FOR ALL OF OUR CALL IT MINOR MAINTENANCE, SEAL COATING, CRACK SEALING, AND MINOR REPAIRS FOR ALL OF OUR EXISTING LEISURE TRAIL. AND THEN LASTLY, WE HAVE BUCKET SIX, WHICH IS OUR FACILITY PARKING AND DRIVE MAINTENANCE. THIS ONE, WE ARE ALSO RECOMMENDING AN ADDITIONAL ONE TIME INCREASE OF 350 000. WE HAVE DEFERRED MAINTENANCE FROM THIS YEAR AT OUR BILHEIMER SERVICE COMPLEX, AND WE ARE PROPOSING TO DO THAT NEXT YEAR. AFTER ALL THE CONSTRUCTION IS DONE, THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF UTILITY CROSSINGS, AND IT'S IN IT'S IN PRETTY BAD SHAPE NOW, AND IT'S GOING G G G G G G G G G G G G GE SHAPE NEXT YEAR. SO WE WANTED TO HOLD OFF UNTIL EVERYTHING WAS WAS COMPLETE IN ORDER TO REPAVE THAT, THAT LAST BOX AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE WILL BE DEALT WITH IN A LOT MORE DETAIL IN THE COMING SLIDES, BUT THAT'S A LEAD IN WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING, IS PROPOSING AN ADDITIONAL REGULAR POT OF MONEY THAT WOULD BE SEEDED WITH THE $5.8 MILLION CONTRIBUTION, AND THEN SUPPLEMENTED BY AN ANNUAL AMOUNT OF PENDING THE AVAILABILITY OF FUNDS. SO WE PLUGGED IT IN HERE BECAUSE THIS IS THE CATEGORY OF FUNDS OR PROGRAMS THAT IT WOULD BE ASSOCIATED WITH, BUT WE'LL GET INTO MORE DETAIL IN A FEW MINUTES. ALRIGHTY. WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A MOMENT TO PULL UP MENTIMETER SO WE CAN VOTE ON THOSE ANNUAL PROGRAMS. SO GIVE ME JUST ONE SECOND AND I WILL GET THAT UP. TECHNOLOGY. IF EVERYONE DOESN'T MIND PULLING OUT THEIR PHONES, AND EITHER GOING TO THE WEBSITE AND PUTTING THE CODE IN, OR SCANNING THE QR CODE. RIGHT OVER HERE. AND JUST GIVE ME A THUMBS UP IF YOU'RE IN.

EVERYBODY IN. ALRIGHTY. AND THEN THE QUESTION IS, SHOULD THESE EXISTING SIX ANNUAL PROGRAMS AND AMOUNTS BE FUNDED IN THE 2027 CAPITAL BUDGET? ARE WE TALKING ABOUT ONCE WE START.

SEVEN. RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. SEVEN OUT OF SEVEN. YES. ALRIGHTY. I'LL GET BACK IN THE PRESENTATION. YEAH, JUST TO FIX IT UP HERE.

ALL RIGHT. OVER THE LAST MONTH, CHELSEA AND I HAVE BEEN TASKED WITH DEVELOPING A LAND ACQUISITION STRATEGY AND EVALUATION FRAMEWORK. SO OUR FOCUS TODAY WILL BE ON OUR

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THE SECOND COMMUNITY WAS HILLIARD THAT WE HEARD FROM. THEY ALSO DO NOT HAVE A FORMAL POLICY. THEY LOOK FOR EARLY NOTICE, COMP PLAN ALIGNMENT AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES WHEN PURCHASING LAND. TYPICALLY, THEIR CIC GETS STRATEGIC PROPERTIES UNDER CONTRACT AND THE CITY THEN FUNDS VIA THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND CITY MANAGER LEAD TARGETED ACQUISITIONS, ENGINEERING, PLANNING AND LAW, LEAD PARKS AND OPEN SPACE ACQUISITIONS. THEIR FUNDING DEPENDS ON THE COST OR PURPOSE FOR PROJECTS UNDER A MILLION. THE CIC MAY MAKE A CASH PURCHASE USING ITS RESERVES FOR LARGER PROJECTS OR COMMUNITY FOCUSED ACQUISITIONS. THE CIC MAY FRONT THE DEPOSIT AND THEN THE CITY CAN GO THROUGH THE PROCESS TO APPROPRIATE THE FULL AMOUNT. THE CITY HAS USED CASH RESERVES AND SHORT TERM NOTES FOR ACQUISITIONS AND FOR CERTAIN PROJECTS. THEY PARTNER WITH THE METROPARKS, AND THEIR TAKEAWAY IS THAT THEY HAVE A VERY STRONG TEAM. THEY HAVE A REAL ESTATE ATTORNEY SURVEYING AND ENVIRONMENTAL CONTEXTS, AND THAT HAS ALLOWED THEM TO MOVE AT PRIVATE SECTOR SPEED WHEN ACQUIRING LAND. SO WITH LOOKING AT THE ORC AND HEARING FROM

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TWO OF THE STEPS INCLUDE A PRELIMINARY SCREENING AND APPLYING A PROPOSED DECISION MATRIX, WHICH WE WILL REVIEW IN A MOMENT. THIS WORKFLOW IS MEANT TO PROVIDE CONSISTENCY WHILE STILL PRESERVING FLEXIBILITY FOR ADMINISTRATION DISCRETION, LEGAL REVIEW, FINANCIAL ANALYSIS AND COUNCIL AUTHORIZATION. THE FRAMEWORK CAN ALSO HELP DISTINGUISH BETWEEN A PARCEL THAT IS SIMPLY AVAILABLE AND A PARCEL THAT IS STRATEGICALLY IMPORTANT TO THE CITY, AND UP FRONT, YOU WILL SEE THAT STEPS ONE THROUGH THREE REALLY ALLOW FOR MULTIPLE CITY DEPARTMENTS TO BE INVOLVED IN THE PRELIMINARY SCREENING, SO THAT IT'S NOT JUST ONE DEPARTMENT THAT REALLY WANTS A PIECE OF PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT IT GETS PUSHED THROUGH, BUT BRINGING IT TO ALL RELEVANT STAFF AND SENIOR STAFF TO MAKE SURE THEY AGREE ON WHETHER IT'S WORTHWHILE AND MOVING FORWARD OR NOT. AND PART OF THAT PROCESS AND THE PRELIMINARY REVIEW AND SCREENING WOULD INCLUDE A DECISION MATRIX. AND THIS DECISION MATRIX RECOMMENDS 12 DIFFERENT SCORING CATEGORIES AND IS INTENDED TO CREATE A CONSISTENT WAY TO COMPARE POTENTIAL ACQUISITION OPPORTUNITIES. AND THE MATRIX WOULD HELP STAFF ORGANIZE INFORMATION. BUT SINCE THE PROCESS IS NOT REALLY A ONE SIZE FITS ALL PROCESS, IT SHOULD NOT REPLACE PROFESSIONAL JUDGMENT, ADMINISTRATION DISCRETION OR COUNCIL DISCRETION. SO ONCE YOU WOULD GET THROUGH THE DECISION MATRIX AND FINDING OUT A SCORE FOR THE PIECE OF PROPERTY, IT WOULD THEN PUT THAT SCORE INTO A TWO TIER CATEGORY. SO ESSENTIALLY ANYTHING THAT IS RECEIVING A SCORE ABOVE A 16 WOULD BE CONSIDERED HIGH PRIORITY. AND THE CITY COULD CONSIDER ADVANCING THAT ACQUISITION.

ANYTHING BELOW A SCORE OF 16 WOULD BE CONSIDERED LOW PRIORITY AND MAYBE NOT ADVANCE THAT ACQUISITION RIGHT AWAY. BUT YOU COULD STILL MONITOR AND REVISIT THIS. CIRCUMSTANCES CHANGE. SO CHELSEA AND I FORMERC CAMPUS AS AN EXAMPLE. SO THIS SCORED A 21 WHICH PUT IT IN HIGH PRIORITY. THE REASON IT SCORED HIGH WAS FOR THINGS SUCH AS IT SUPPORTS PARKS AND OPEN SPACE. IT ALIGNS WITH THE STRATEGIC PLAN AND THE PARKS FRAMEWORK PLAN, AND IT REUSES A VACANT SITE WITH POTENTIAL BENEFITS TO PROPERTY VALUES, TAX BASE AND BUSINESS ATTRACTION. SO IN CONCLUSION, THESE ARE FOUR RECOMMENDATIONS. WE WANT TO PUT AN EMPHASIS ON THE ALLOCATED LAND ACQUISITION FUND. AND I WILL TURN IT OVER TO BETHANY TO TALK ABOUT THE FUNDING FOR THAT. OKAY. SO YOU'RE PROBABLY THINKING, HOW ARE WE GOING TO FUND THIS $5.8 MILLION AT FIRST? SO WHAT THEY ARE RECOMMENDING IS DOING IS ESTABLISHING A, AN ACQUISITION FUND, WHICH WOULD BE THE MUNICIPAL LAND ACQUISITION FUND WOULD BE THE NAME THAT I AM PROPOSING OR WE ARE PROPOSING. THIS WOULD PROVIDE ONGOING, PREDICTABLE FUNDING FOR LAND ACQUISITION PROGRAM. IT SUPPORTS COUNCIL'S STRATEGIC PRIORITIES. WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING IS AN ONGOING INCOME TAX ALLOCATION, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID WITH THE VILLAGE CENTER IMPROVEMENT FUND OF 0.5%. THIS WOULD DRAW $400,000 ANNUALLY, GIVE OR TAKE, AND THAT WOULD MEAN THAT THE GENERAL FUND ALLOCATION WOULD GO DOWN FROM 83.5% TO 83%. THE

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SO WHAT INITIALLY WAS THE THOUGHT PROCESS TO PUT ALL THIS TOGETHER? I'LL START THERE. WAS IT ALIGNING IT WITH THE ORC? WAS IT WHAT OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE DOING? JUST GETTING A MORE FORMALIZED PROCESS FOR WHEN WE ADDRESS LAND ACQUISITIONS? WELL, I CAN HELP ANSWER THAT TOO. SO WHEN WE DID, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE VERY FIRST SLIDE? SO AND AGAIN, THIS IS A FRAMEWORK PRESENTATION. SO WE'RE DEFINITELY OPEN TO CONSIDERATION FROM COUNCIL. BUT WHEN WE HAD THE PRIORITIZATION SESSION WITH COUNCIL ONE ONE PREVIOUSLY, THESE WERE THE PRIORITIES THAT YOU HAD ESTABLISHED WITHIN THAT SESSION. AND SO ADRIAN JOLY APPROACHED OUR TEAM AND SAID, WE'RE ADDRESSING DURING THIS CAPITAL RETREAT COMING UP IN TWO MONTHS, ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT SECTIONS EXCEPT LAND ACQUISITION. AND WE BELIEVED AS A STAFF THAT WE HAD HEARD THAT COUNCIL SAID, HEY, IS THERE A WAY TO COME UP WITH A DECISION FRAMEWORK OR SOMETHING THAT WOULD HELP US DETERMINE WHAT PARCELS ARE VIABLE, PARCELS, WHERE THEY SHOULD PLACE ON A LIST, HOW WE SHOULD EVALUATE THEM. SO THAT TASK WAS ASSIGNED TO US BY ADRIAN, TO THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, AND THEN CHRIS AND THE TEAM TOOK OVER, AND CHELSEA AND SIERRA LED THAT PROCESS. SO THE IDEA THEN WAS TO KIND OF CHECK FIRST FROM THE HIGH REVISED CODE, LIKE, WHAT DOES THE LAW SAY WE HAVE TO DO? WHAT IS OUR GUIDING DOCUMENTS AND DECISION MAKING DOCUMENTS FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE, AND THEN REACH OUT TO OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT WE KNOW IN CENTRAL OHIO ARE ACTUALLY DOING ANY SORT OF LAND ACQUISITION PROCESSES THAT AREN'T BROWNFIELD ACQUISITIONS THROUGH SOME SORT OF EPA GRANTS. AND, AND COMING UP WITH A FRAMEWORK, I THINK, MIKE, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION AS WELL, WHEN YOU GO TO THAT DECISION

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AND IF YOU WANT TO MAKE THOSE MODIFICATIONS TO IT, WE'RE DEFINITELY WOULD LOVE TO HEAR THAT. BUT JUST KIND OF A WAY TO EVALUATE EACH ONE OF THOSE AND GIVE COUNCIL A TOOL TO EVALUATE THEM THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THAT MAKES SENSE. AND THEN IF YOU GO BACK TO THAT SLIDE, I JUST HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION THEN. SO YEAH, KEEP GOING TO THAT LAST SLIDE RIGHT THERE. ALL RIGHT. SO I'M LOOKING AT ACQUISITION OF REAL PROPERTY FOR MUNICIPAL PURPOSES THERE KIND OF WHAT HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED. AND SOMETIMES THERE MIGHT BE A POTENTIAL PROPERTY THAT POPS UP, SAY TO THE NORTH OF THE CITY AND THERE MIGHT NOT BE, WE MAY NOT HAVE A REASON AS TO WHY, OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT WE THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO BRING THAT PARCEL INTO THE CITY, WHETHER IT'S IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, ETC. AND, I DON'T KNOW, LOOKING AT THE CHECKLIST, IF THAT WOULD HIT ENOUGH OF THOSE MARKERS THAT MAKE IT IMPORTANT. BUT WE KNOW IT'S KIND OF IMPORTANT. SO WHAT DO WE DO IN A SCENARIO LIKE THAT? CHELSEA AND I DID SPEAK ABOUT THAT. SO I THINK THE DECISION MATRIX, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO HAPPEN EVERY TIME. I THINK IT'S KIND OF LIKE THAT'S THE FRAMEWORK. BUT WE DO KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE OUTLIER, YOU KNOW, SITES THAT MAYBE WE DON'T SCORE, BUT WE'RE LIKE, WE NEED THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR WHATEVER PURPOSE. SO IT'S NOT A ONE SIZE FITS ALL APPROACH. BUT WE DID CONSIDER THAT. OKAY. AND DO YOU SEE THE CIC MAYBE GETTING A LITTLE BIT MORE INVOLVED IN SOME OF THIS BASED ON THE PRESENTATION? YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S A DECISION THAT COUNCIL IS CERTAINLY WORTH THE DISCUSSION OF COUNCIL. I THINK THAT OFTENTIMES A CIC CAN BE EN, YOU KNOW, HOLD LAND AND MAKE ACQUISITIONS. WE HAVE A PRETTY SOPHISTICATED COUNCIL AND BUDGETING SYSTEM, SO SOMETIMES INSERTING A CIC IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT JUST ADDS ANOTHER LAYER OF BUREAUCRACY. BUT I DEFINITELY THINK THAT IN THE COMING MONTHS, IT'S WORTH A CONVERSATION FOR COUNCIL. AND ESPECIALLY AS WE THINK ABOUT THE EVOLUTION OF THE CIC AND THEIR ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES. AND ARE THEY OKAY AS THEY'RE CONSTITUTED WITH THE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES THEY HAVE, DO WE WANT THEM TO GROW? AS WE START THINKING ABOUT VILLAGE CENTER DEVELOPMENT, THAT MIGHT BE SOME ROLE THAT THEY PLAY AS WELL. SO THAT'S BEEN USED IN OTHER PLACES, BUT IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY REPLACE THERE'S NO ADVANTAGE BECAUSE THEY'RE QUASI PUBLIC TO TO USING THEM IN ALL CIRCUMSTANCES. OKAY, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE IT. I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF TOUCHED ON THIS. LOOK AT THE THE MATRIX OF THE DECISIONS, LIKE THE FACTORS, BECAUSE I THINK LIKE THIS, THIS I'M PROBABLY GOING TO NEED, LIKE, IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIID I LOVE THE IDEA AND I LOVE THE PROCESS. THIS COULD LIKE, I MEAN, I COULD TALK ABOUT THIS FOREVER, RIGHT? LIKE ALL THE LITTLE AND ALL THE LITTLE REASONS WHY WE WOULD WANT TO GET ON SOMETHING AND HOW WE WOULD SCORE IT. SO I APPRECIATE THAT THIS MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT'S LIKE GROWING AND WE MIGHT REVIEW IT FROM TIME TO TIME. SO HOW DO WE IS THIS IS THERE, DO WE HAVE TIME TO LIKE NOODLE ON THE DIFFERENT FACTORS ON THIS? OKAY, GREAT. I WOULD LOVE TO MAYBE HAVE THAT ACCESS TO THAT AS WELL. YEAH. I THINK THAT ADRIAN'S DIRECTION TO US WAS TO COME UP WITH SOME IDEAS. AND THIS TEAM JUST TOOK IT TO AN EXCEPTIONAL LEVEL AND REALLY GAVE US SOMETHING THAT I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GO BACK AND EVALUATE. WE CAN MAKE ALL OF THESE MATERIALS AVAILABLE FOR YOU. AND I WOULD SAY BETWEEN NOW AND THE FINAL BUDGET TIME, IF THERE'S QUESTIONS AND FACTORS YOU'D LIKE TO ADD, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT IN COUNCIL MEETINGS UNDER CITY MANAGER'S REPORT. WE CAN EVEN SCHEDULE A SPECIFIC TIME IN ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEETINGS TO DISCUSS IT, SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE BOTH HERE. BUT THIS WAS AN I. THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WE THOUGHT I EXPECTED. I DON'T KNOW WHAT ADRIAN'S EXPECTATION WAS THAT WE WOULD HAVE LIKE FIVE BULLETS ON A SLIDE. THIS REALLY IS GOOD. AND THEY CAME UP WITH A, WITH A DEFENSIBLE TESTED SCORING MECHANISM. THE DETAILS OF THAT. YEAH, WE CAN DEFINITELY DISCUSS. I'M SITTING HERE AND I'M READING THIS AND I IT WAS QUICK ON THE SCREEN. I SEE WHERE WHAT I WANTED TO SEE, WHICH IS THAT THE PARCEL SUPPORTS LAND USE AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT, RIGHT? BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT THE PEOPLE OF NEW ALBANY ARE SAYING. WE NEED A LAND BANK TO BE ABLE TO DO TO, YOU KNOW,

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AND JUST AS A REMINDER, AS BETHANY SAID EARLIER, THE WINDSOR SULTAN LANSDOWNE TIFFS ARE ONE OF THE STATED PURPOSES OF THE TIFF WOULD BE TO ACQUIRE LAND FOR PARK AND RECREATIONAL PURPOSES. SO WE'LL MULTIPLE INPUTS COULD BE ABLE TO ACQUIRE LAND. THAT ONE HAPPENS TO BE MORE FOCUSED ON ITS INTENTION TO KIND OF ALREADY ARE ALL AROUND WHAT I WAS ABOUT TO ASK, BUT WHERE DO YOU. SO I KNOW IT'S JUST THE STARTING POINT AND WHATEVER, BUT WHAT WAS THE POINT 5%? WAS THERE AN INSPIRATION FOR THAT PARTICULAR NUMBER? WAS THERE A REASON WHEN YOU LOOKED AT THE BUDGET THAT THAT FELT RIGHT? WAS THAT JUST I'M GOING TO LOWBALL IT TO START AND WE'LL SEE WHAT THEY DO. SO IT WAS MORE SO AGAIN, TO ESTABLISH IT, IT SEEMED AS IF SEEDING IT WITH THAT LARGE TRANSFER WAS GOING TO BE PLACING A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF FUNDS IN THAT FUND TO START. ONE THING THAT HAPPENS WITH FUNDS THAT YOU ESTABLISH, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT AND YOU CAN'T TRANSFER MONEY BACK. SO IT WAS MORE SO TO ESTABLISH IT, SEE WHAT THE PROGRAM IS GOING TO DO, SEE WHAT THE NEEDS OF THE PROGRAM ARE GOING TO BE OVER TIME. THERE MIGHT BE A TIME WHERE, I MEAN, WE'RE NOT REALLY LOOKING AT BUYING ANYMORE LAND.

SO JUST KIND OF CONTROLLING THE FUNDING AND THE REVENUES COMING IN WITH HAVING THAT ESTABLISHED, YOU KNOW, SET INCOME, INCOME TAX AMOUNT COMING IN, BUT THEN HAVING THE ABILITY TO EVALUATE EACH YEAR IF THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL AMOUNT THAT NEEDS TO BE PLACED IN THAT FUND IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO USE IT. I MEAN, THE REALITY OF IT IS IF WE MAINTAIN THOSE FUNDS IN THE GENERAL REVENUE FUND, IT GIVES THIS COUNCIL THE FLEXIBILITY WE NEED TO MAKE PURCHASES WITH OR WITHOUT A FRAMEWORK. BUT EVERY DOLLAR THAT WE STICK IN THERE IS A DOLLAR THAT WE CAN'T USE FOR OTHER PRIORITIES. SO THIS HAS TO BE A CAP ON THIS FUND. UNTIL WE DETERMINE WHAT IS USEFUL, PURPOSE WILL BE OVER TIME. SO I WOULD I WOULD CAUTION STAFF ON PUTTING TOO

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ANNUAL MAKES IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS IS A RENEWAL. IT DOES. SO IS THIS A ONE TIME FUNDING OR IS THIS BUILT INTO THE BUDGET PROCESS MOVING FORWARD? THIS THE 5.8 MILLION WOULD BE A INITIAL SEED MONEY FOR 2027. THE $400,000 APPROXIMATE ESTIMATE A YEAR WOULD BE WHAT WOULD BE GENERATED EACH YEAR. SO ANY APPROPRIATION WOULD BE LIMITED TO WHAT'S AVAILABLE IN THE FUND AT THAT TIME. SO THAT 5.8 IS NOT AN ANNUAL IT'S JUST FOR 2027 TO TO SEED IT. THE ONGOING IS THE 1.5. THE ONGOING IS THE 0.5% INCOME TAX. SO SORRY. YES, THE ONGOING IS 0.5 THOUGH THE 400. YEAH. IT'S APPROXIMATELY 400 000 CONSERVATIVELY. OKAY. I WISH THAT WAS IN THE QUESTION. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT JUST TO REMEMBER THIS IS JUST GIVING STAFF FEEDBACK SO WE CAN GO AND PREPARE THE CAPITAL BUDGET. AND SO THIS ISN'T LIKE VOTE ON A RESOLUTION. BUT I THINK JUST WHERE IT LANDS KIND OF GIVES USN FOLLOW UP WITH CONVERSATION BETWEEN NOW AND THE BUDGET PREPARATION. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO WE'VE GOT ONE MORE PERSON HANGING OUT HERE READY TO GO. I WONDER WHO IT IS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO I KNOW NOW THE NEXT PORTION OF THE PRESENTATION. WE ACTUALLY HAVE A BREAK FOR YOU GUYS. I THINK SAM HAS A PICTURE THAT HE WANTS TO TAKE OF ALL OF YOU. OH, IT'S ALREADY AWESOME. SAM. SO I THINK GO AHEAD AND GET THAT. OKAY. I JUST HAD THIS MEETING IS GOING ON A BREAK. WE WILL TURN OFF THE SOUND, BUT LEAVE THE CAMERAS RUNNING. IF YOU'RE FOLLOWING THE STREAM, THANK YOU FOR THE PICTORIAL BREAK. WE'RE READY TO RETURN TO THE MEETING. AND WE ARE RECONVENING AT 6:43 P.M. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YOU GUYS ALL ENJOYED YOUR BREAK. SO NORMALLY DURING THE

[6. PROJECT UPDATES]

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YEAH, THAT WAS NICE. THAT'S SO AMAZING. I LOVE THAT ROBE SO MUCH. SO EXCITING. NATIONWIDE CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION HERE. THEY. EDGEHILL SUBDIVISION WILL BE DEVELOPED ON THE SIDE OF THE SCREEN HERE.

WE'RE ALL LAUGHING ABOUT IT. IT LOOKS LIKE SOMEONE HAD SOME DONUTS IN THEIR. VISITED BY SOME FRIENDS FROM. THE PROJECT UNDER CONSTRUCTION. THOSE PIECES RIGHT HERE ON THE SCREEN.

AS YOU CAN SEE. SO IT'S JUST A FEW OF THE MANY PROJECTS WE HAVE GOING ON. BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T JUST ACKNOWLEDGE EVERYONE IN THE ROOM HERE. THERE'S A LOT OF STAFF MEMBERS THAT WORK ON THESE PROJECTS EVERY DAY. SO JUST THANK YOU TO ALL OF YOU. ALL THE WORK THAT YOU DO. AND THANK YOU FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR PUTTING THIS VIDEO TOGETHER. OH, I'LL SAY IT AGAIN. WE WON'T DO THAT. ALL RIGHT. SO WE ARE GOING TO TRANSITION TO TALKING ABOUT OUR PROPOSED NEW CAPITAL PROJECTS, THE NEW PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE OUTLINED. AND I'M SO SORRY OUTLINED IN YOUR BINDERS HERE. SO BEFORE WE DO THAT, I'M GOING TO HAVE BETHANY SPEAK TO A LITTLE BIT MORE ON FINANCES, AND THEN WE'LL START GOING INTO KITZMILLER ATHLETIC CAMPUS, VILLAGE CENTER AND CEDARBROOK ROAD IMPROVEMENTS. OKAY, SO I AM GOING TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE

[8. DISCUSSION OF ONGOING AND FUTURE CAPITAL PROJECTS & PROGRAMS]

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AND WITH THAT, WE'RE ABLE TO PRESENT THE PROGRAMS THAT WE'RE GOING TO SHOW YOU TODAY. OKAY.

THANK YOU. BETHANY. SO PICKING UP WHERE BETHANY LEFT OFF. THIS IS THE PROPOSED PROGRAM THAT WE'RE PRESENTING TO COUNCIL TONIGHT. THIS IS BOTH REPRESENTED IN YOUR BINDERS HERE AND WHAT WE'LL REFERENCE THROUGHOUT THE REST OF OUR PRESENTATION. AS YOU'LL SEE HERE ON THIS GRAPHIC, THIS GRAPHIC IS ALSO LOCATED BACK HERE IN THE SIDE OF THE ROOM HERE. ALL OF THE PROPOSED PROGRAMS ARE GROUNDED AND BASED IN ONE OF COUNCIL'S STRATEGIC PRIORITIES. HERE AT THE TOP OF THE SCREEN, THE PROPOSED PROGRAMS ARE THE KITZMILLER PARK ATHLETIC CAMPUS, VILLAGE CENTER AND CEDARBROOK ROAD IMPROVEMENTS. CAN ALSO MAKE THIS PRESENTATION AVAILABLE TO YOU GUYS. AFTER THE MEETING AND THE PROPOSED PROGRAMS. BEFORE WE GET INTO THE DETAILS OF EACH ONE, WE DID TAKE A STAB AT SEEING HOW THESE PROJECTS COULD LAY OUT OVER THE COURSE OF 4 OR 5 YEARS. AND AS REFLECTED IN YOUR BINDERS, THIS IS HOW EACH OF THESE PROJECTS IS SPREAD BETWEEN BETWEEN 2027 AND 2030. SO WE WILL GO AHEAD UNLESS THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW BEFORE WE WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND JUMP INTO THE FIRST PROGRAM, WHICH IS KITZMILLER WETLAND PARK, WHICH WILL BE CHELSEA AND MKSK. OKAY. AS CHRIS MENTIONED, THE KITZMILLER WETLAND PARK IS THE FIRST PROPOSED PROGRAM WE WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT TO YOU THIS EVENING. WE WERE BEFORE CITY COUNCIL AT YOUR AUGUST 4TH MEETING, WHERE WE SOLICITED FEEDBACK FROM YOU ALL ON POTENTIAL ACTIVITIES OR AMENITIES IN THE PARK. SO MATT KELLOGG HERE WITH MXS IS BACK BEFORE YOU AGAIN TO PRESENT THOSE DRAFT PLANS. BASED ON YOUR FEEDBACK, HE'S GOING TO BRIEFLY GO OVER FINDINGS WE ALREADY DISCUSSED WITH YOU FOR THE PUBLIC OUTREACH THAT WE DID, SOME OF THE BACKGROUND ON THE LAND ITSELF, AND THEN THE PROPOSED PLAN AND FUNDING. SO WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MATT.

THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE ALL THE GREAT PUBLIC SPACES IN THE CITY. HAVE THE CITY'S BUILT, STARTED WITH GREAT PLANNING, AND WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS TWO ADDITIONAL PARKS WITH YOU TONIGHT. SO WE'LL GO OVER A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME AND SOME OF THE BACKGROUND, THE KEY CONSIDERATIONS FOR WHAT WE USE TO BRING FORWARD FOR WHAT ULTIMATELY THE PLAN IS THAT WE'RE SHARING WITH YOU TONIGHT.

SO JUST A REMINDER OF WHAT THE SITE IS AND WHAT YOU LAST TIME. THERE'S SOME QUITE BEAUTIFUL THO MITIGATE WETLANDS THAT WERE BUILT IN THE EARLY 2000. THE CITY TOOK ON WITH OWNERSHIP OF THIS PROPERTY. BUT ONE OF THE KEY CONSIDERATIONS THAT THE ECOLOGICAL, ECOLOGICAL HEALTH IS, IS MAYBE NOT WHAT WE EXPECTED IT TO BE ON THE SITE. IF YOU LOOK BACK AT HISTORICAL AERIALS IN 1995 TO 2002, LARGELY THIS WAS AN AGRARIAN, AGRARIAN PIECE OF LAND AND HAS GENERALLY BEEN UNDISTURBED SINCE THEN. SO WHEN WE DID AN EVALUATION WITH OUR ECOLOGICAL

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SO DISTURBANCE BY SORT OF PUBLIC ACCESS IS MAYBE NOT AS DESIRABLE. AND SO PROVIDING AN OPPORTUNITY FOR KIDS TO CONNECT WITH WATER AND ENGAGE AND PICK UP SOME SALAMANDERS AND, AND TADPOLES. AND THEN ALSO A PAVILION, A PICNIC SHELTER, BUT ALSO MAYBE IT'S A LITTLE FREE LIBRARY OR A NATURE LIBRARY WHERE PEOPLE CAN PICK UP THINGS THAT THEY FIND ON THEIR WALK AND LEAVE IT THERE FOR SOMEBODY ELSE TO PICK UP AS WELL. AND THEN ALONG WITH THAT IS A BOSQUE OF WE'RE CALLING THE BOSQUE, WHICH COULD HAVE SWINGS, COULD ALSO HAVE MOVABLE TABLES AND CHAIRS, BUT A PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO SORT OF COME AND GATHER AND READ A BOOK OR MOVE OUT INTO THE REST OF THE LANDSCAPE AND FIND ANOTHER PLACE TO, TO READ A BOOK. AND THEN THE LOTUS POND. SO E SORT OF JEWEL BOX ECOLOGY, JEWEL BOX OF ECOLOGIES, A LOTUS POND IS, IS NATIVE TO OHIO. SO WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT WITH WHAT THE OPPORTUNITIES ARE FOR CREATING UNIQUE AND INTERESTING LANDSCAPES THAT WOULD EXIST NATURALLY IN OHIO. AND SO PROVIDING THESE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THE CONNECT WITH THE LANDSCAPE AROUND THEM IN A, IN A WAY THAT THEY NORMALLY WOULDN'T SEE. AND THEN THIS IS THIS IS LOOKING NORTH. SO THE BIRD WATCHING TOWER IS ON THE RIGHT. JOHNSTOWN ROAD IS SORT OF AT THE BACK OF THE SCREEN. SO THIS IS LOOKING SORT OF ACROSS THIS. AND THIS IS THIS IS LOOKING AT HOW HOW LIGHT CAN WE HAVE A TOUCH ON THE LAND? SO SIMILAR TO TAYLOR FARM BUILDING A SERIES OF BOARDWALKS. WE'VE ALREADY BEEN TALKING WITH, WITH CONTRACTORS ABOUT HOW WE BUILD THIS FROM TOP DOWN TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF DISTURBANCE THAT HAPPENS, TRYING TO BE AGAIN, AS LIGHT ON THE LAND AS WE CAN, JUST CONNECTING INTO THE EXISTING LANDSCAPE AS MUCHIBLE.E BIRD WATCHING TOWER WITH A SERIES OF LEVELS FOR PEOPLE TO GATHER AND TAKE IN THE LANDSCAPE AROUND THEM. AND THEN A VIEW FROM THE TOWER LOOKING SOUTH ACROSS THE WETLANDS. THIS IS A LITTLE BIT INTENTIONAL. THERE'S HOUSES TO THE LEFT AND DEVELOPMENT TO THE RIGHT. SO THIS TAKES IN SORT OF AN UNOBSTRUCTED VIEW OF LANDSCAPE ACROSS THE SITE. AND THEN SO WE'RE LOOKING AGAIN BACK TO BACK TO THE EAST. SO THE BOOK LOFT OR LITTLE FREE LIBRARY IS BACK THERE, BUT BOARDWALKS WITH A SERIES OF SWINGS AGAIN, FOR PEOPLE TO SORT OF RELAX IN SPACE. AND THEN OF COURSE, PAVILION, THERE'S AN AMAZING STAND OF EXISTING WHITE PINES TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THAT, HAVING KIDS BE ABLE TO RUN AROUND THE FOREST FLOOR AND SMELL THE SMELL THE, THE NEEDLE, THE PINE NEEDLES AND BE ABLE TO HANG OUT AS A FAMILY, HAVE A PICNIC, HANG OUT THEHEHEHEHEHEHR GROUP AS OUTDOOR CLASSROOM. OR FOREST HAMMOCKS. JUST A PLACE WHERE YOU CAN LAY IN THE SHADE. WATCH THE BREEZE MOVE THROUGH. MOVE THROUGH THE WHITE PINES.

AND THEN THIS IS. THIS IS THE JOHNSTOWN ROAD SIDE. SO A RESTROOM FACILITY WOULD ALSO HAVE STORAGE, STORAGE SPACE FOR PARK MAINTENANCE, AND THEN SORT OF A FORMAL, A FORMAL LAWN AND

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BEFORE WE OPEN IT FOR DISCUSSION. I DO WANT TO JUST BRIEFLY REVIEW THIS SLIDE. IT WAS IN THE LARGER FRAMEWORK THAT CHRIS WENT OVER WITH YOU. SO WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING FOR THE KITZMILLER PROGRAM IS A TOTAL OF $30.88 MILLION, AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS STUDY THAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO NEXT YEAR. IN 2027, THE PARK DESIGN, WHICH WE ARE PROPOSING WOULD HAPPEN IN 2028. THE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS DESIGN, WHICH WOULD BE SUPPLEMENTAL TO THE STUDY, WOULD HAPPEN IN 2028. THE PARK CONSTRUCTION WE'RE PROPOSING FOR 2029. AND THEN ALONG WITH THAT, IN CONJUNCTION TO THAT WOULD BE THE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS CONSTRUCTION. THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT IS TO BE DETERMINED BECAUSE WE HAVE TO DO THIS STUDY BEFORE WE WOULD KNOW HOW MUCH THE CONSTRUCTION WOULD COST, BUT THAT WOULD BE DONE IN 2029. SO IT WOULD BE $30.8 MILLION OVER THE COURSE OF THREE YEARS BETWEEN 2027, 2028 AND 2029. SO THAT IS THE PROPOSED DOLLAR AMOUNT AND TIMELINE FOR THIS PROGRAM. BUT GIVEN ALL OF THAT, WE CAN OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION. IF THERE MAY BE DESIGN ELEMENTS THAT YOU THAT RESONATE WITH YOU AND OTHERS THAT YOU THINK MAYBE I'D LIKE TO GO IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION THAT WE'RE NOT. ALL OF THIS BUT SO THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO, TO TWEAK THINGS TO MEET COUNCIL'S PREFERENCES. BUT IT'S A, IT'S A PLACE TO START. AND I THINK IT, IT TRIES TO CAPTURE THE FEEDBACK. AS THE STAFF SAID, IT CAPTURES THE FEEDBACK THAT WE GOT FROM OTHER CONVERSATIONS. REALLY NICE PRESENTATION. LOVE THE CONCEPT. I THINK YOU GUYS DID AN AMAZING JOB REALLY WELL. REAL QUICK QUESTION. HOW MANY PARKING SPOTS DO WE HAVE OUT AT TAYLOR? HOUSE? I BELIEVE IT'S 65, 65 OR 100 ACRES. AND YOU GUYS ARE WAS IT 80 HERE WE'RE LOOKING AT. YES. OKAY. ANY WAY TO GET MORE PARKING? IS IT THE 50 IS OFF OF CENTRAL COLLEGE OR OFF OF 62. RIGHT. THE 50 IS OFF OF JOHNSON ROAD. YEAH. YES, THERE'S WE CAN DEFINITELY ADD MORE PARKING, BUT I THINK WE'RE JUST TRYING TO NOT OVERSHOOT IT. I WOULD ECHO I WAS GOING TO ASK EXACTLY WHAT MATT. I THINK WHEN WE LOOK AT THE SUCCESS OF OUR PARKS AND OUR INABILITY TO ADD MORE PARKING THERE HERE, I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT IS ON HERE. I'M NOT GOING TO DESIGN SOMETHING. YOU'VE GOT ITEM NUMBER ONE FOR PARKING ON THE EAST SIDE. IT LOOKS LIKE AN EMPTY AREA. IF YOU CAN EXPAND PARKING AT THE FRONT END OF THIS, I THINK IT'S WISE TO DO

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REAL QUICK, CAN YOU GO TO THE SITE PLAN? WHICH JUST ANECDOTALLY, THE FEEDBACK WAS VERY POSITIVE. PASSIVE PARK USES WAS VERY WELL RECEIVED. AND I GUESS THIS IS KIND OF PRECEDENT WITH OUR PREVIOUS DISCUSSION. SO IF WE DID INDEED HAVE A LAND ACQUISITION FUND, THIS COULD BE IDENTIFIED AS A POTENTIAL TARGET, YOU KNOW, A STRATEGIC PIECE THAT WE COULD ADD TO EXPAND THE KITZMILLER PARK PROACTIVELY RATHER THAN, YOU KNOW, APPROACH A LANDOWNER.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S BEEN INVESTIGATED. YEAH, I THINK REGRETTABLY, THE SCHOOL'S BEEN TRYING TO BUY THAT PROPERTY FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS. AND THE LANDOWNER HAS BEEN UNREASONABLE.

YEAH. YEAH. AND THIS PROBABLY IS GOING TO HELP OUR CASE. NO. SURROUNDED THE PARK. YEAH. BUT NO, LIKE I SAID, THE VERY WELL RECEIVED AND THE USES I THINK, STRIKE THE RIGHT BALANCE BETWEEN PASSIVE BUT STILL HAVING SOME SOME USES THAT ARE GOING TO ATTRACT PEOPLE TO IT.

SO I REALLY I REALLY LIKE THIS. I JUST HAVE A QUESTION JUST TO KIND OF THIS IS A LOT OF MONEY, OBVIOUSLY, BUT JUST TO KIND OF PUT IT IN SCALE, LIKE, HOW DOES THIS COMPARE TO THE OUTLAY FOR TAYLOR FARM? I CAN ANSWER THAT FOR YOU. SO I THINK ALL IN TO TAYLOR, WE WERE LIKE 11.5 MILLION. BUT WHAT I WILL SAY WITH TAYLOR, IT'S BIGGER, BUT WE CAN ONLY USE ABOUT 5% OF THAT SITE. LIKE WE BOUGHT THE WETLANDS. WE DIDN'T HAVE TO DO MASS EXCAVATION BECAUSE THOSE WETLANDS WERE ALREADY BUILT. SO THERE'S A LOT OF PROGRAM AND WORK THAT WE COULDN'T DO OR DIDN'T HAVE TO DO WITH TAYLOR. SO WE WERE REALLY PUTTING THAT MONEY INTO A SMALLER AMOUNT THAN THE 100 ACRE BY ACRE. DO YOU FEEL LIKE THE THE AMENITY COST THAT'S YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? WE CAN THE, THE DEVELOPED ACRES. YEAH. YOU KNOW, THAT'S A WE DIDN'T DO THAT CALCULATION, BUT THAT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO KIND OF SEE WHERE THAT WOULD SHAKE OUT. OKAY. THANK YOU. I REALLY LIKE IT. I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE HAMMOCKS. I THINK THAT'S AMAZING. AND THE BIRD WATCHING TOWER, I FEEL LIKE WOULD REALLY I SEE THAT ON LIKE THE COLUMBUS MOMS BLOG, PLACES TO EXPLORE COULD, COULD BE, COULD BE REALLY GOOD. AND JUST A PROCESS QUESTION. I THINK ALL WE'RE KIND OF APPROVING THIS YEAR FOR THE BUDGET IS THE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS STUDY, RIGHT? CAN YOU TALK TO ME ABOUT WHAT THE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS STUDY IS DOING AND WHY WE NEED IT? AND YES, SO SLIDE HERE. SO AS MATT MENTIONED, PART OF THE KEY CONSIDERATIONS AS WE WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS IS THE FACT THAT THERE ARE NOT CURRENTLY ANY NATURE TRAIL CONNECTIONS OR SIDEWALK CONNECTIONS TO BRING PEOPLE TO THIS SITE OTHER THAN BY CAR. SO THE STUDY WOULD HELP US EXAMINE WAYS TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN, TO GET PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO WALK OR BIKE HERE. SO THAT STUDY WOULD TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT HOW WE COULD ACCOMPLISH THAT. AND THEN ULTIMATELY, WHATEVER WE FIND FROM THAT STUDY WOULD DETERMINE WHAT WOULD BE DESIGNED AND CONSTRUCTED. SO RIGHT NOW WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. OKAY. I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE THIS SCARY STARFISH HERE OR NOT. BUT YEAH, THAT'S KIND OF IT'S KIND OF TO BE DETERMINED, BUT KIND OF IN THAT GENERAL REALM OF JUST TRYING TO GET PEOPLE HERE. SO IF I COULD ADD TO THAT, THERE WERE TWO, TWO WAYS THAT YOU COULD LOOK AT

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I'M SURE WE'LL HEAR FROM OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR. QUESTIONS WILL BE ANSWERED LIKE THAT. BUT YEAH, SO THAT'S TOUGH. THERE'LL BE MORE MORE INFORMATION COMING AS WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.

BUT AND CERTAINLY WE DON'T HAVE TO DO IT HOLISTICALLY. OKAY. THIS IS KIND OF AN INNOVATIVE OR A, A DIFFERENT WAY OF LOOKING AT IT, DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST BECAUSE OF THE REVENUE STREAM THAT WE'RE PROJECTING COMING OFF OF THAT 9.75 MILL CHARGE.

SO WE THINK THAT IT GIVES USSSSE OF THESE PROJECTS HOLISTICALLY AND STILL HAVE RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO TAKE ON OTHER PROJECTS IN FUTURE YEARS. SO JUST A FEW MORE QUESTIONS. THE LAND THAT WAS ON THE SITE PLAN IS THAT ALL WITHIN THE POSSESSION OF THE CITY, OR THERE'S STILL THINGS THAT NEED TO BE ACQUIRED. SO MOST OF THE LAND BELONGS TO THE CITY. THERE ARE A TOTAL OF. I BELIEVE, FOUR PARCELS, FOUR REMAINING PARCELS. TWO ARE OWNED BY THE COMPANY, AND THEY HAVE BEEN COMMITTED TO THE CITY. THERE'S AN MOU THAT I'M WORKING ON RIGHT NOW WITH THE NEW ALBANY COMPANY, AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, I BELIEVE, HAS TWO PARCELS, AND THOSE WOULD BE DONATED TO THE CITY AS PART OF A LAND SWAP LAND SWAP. THANK YOU. AND THEN SECOND QUESTION, IT LOOKS LIKE THE ONLY PATH CONNECTION THAT EXITS THE PARK IS AT THE FOREST DRIVE ROUNDABOUT. IS THAT ACCURATE? OKAY. AND THEN THE DISC GOLF. HOW MANY PROPOSED HOLES? NINE.

AND THEN I MEAN, I'M NOT AN EXPERT DISC GOLFER, LET'S BE HONEST, BUT I'VE PLAYED A FAIR SHARE OF IT. WE CAN IN THAT SPACE THAT'S DESIGNATED FIT NINE HOLES. YES. OKAY. I DON'T DID RESEARCH ON DISC GOLF AND NINE WAS THE APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF HOLES FOR THE ACREAGE. AND THAT PORTION OF THE SITE. SO WE COULDN'T FIT A HOLE 18 DISC GOLF COURSE, BUT IT PROBABLY WOULD NOT BE A WORLD CLASS TOURNAMENT COURSE. BUT IT WOULD BE. WE CAN'T FIT NINE AND GO TO HOOVER IF YOU REALLY WANT TO HUG IT. GOT IT. OKAY. AGAIN, I'M NOT AN EXPERT. IT JUST FOLLOW UP TO THAT QUESTION TOO. I SEE YOU HAVE IT AS SIX UP THERE. WILL THAT COURSE GO UP INTO FOUR AND UP INTO 13 AND AROUND AND ALL THAT? BECAUSE THAT'S ONE OF THE NICE THINGS ABOUT PEOPLE THAT DO PLAY DISC FRISBEE DO LIKE THE DIFFERENT VIEWS AND THAT YOU'RE, WHETHER IT'S IN THE, YOU KNOW, NO TREES INTO THE TREES, ALL THAT STUFF. YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE IT IN THE TREE. WE'LL TAKE IT IN THE TREES AND THROUGH THE MEADOW. OKAY. AND GREAT AS WELL. JUST ONE QUESTION IN TERMS OF THE 30 MILLION, OBVIOUSLY THE LARGEST PORTION OF THIS IS 2029. HOW DID WE SEE POSITIONING FUNDING IN SETTING ASIDE FUNDS TO BE AVAILABLE? I DON'T THINK WE'RE LOOKING AT DROPPING 30 MILLION THAT YEAR, BUT OBVIOUSLY ACCRUING AND DEVELOPING FUNDS TOWARDS THAT GIVE A SENSE OF HOW THAT MIGHT LOOK. SO WE CURRENTLY HAVE A MODEL THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THAT ANALYZES AND PROJECTS THOSE REVENUES OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS BASED ON THE PERMITS AND CONSTRUCTION THAT ARE IN PLACE RIGHT NOW AND THE REVENUE THAT WE'VE RECEIVED IN THE PAST. THE THE INFORMATION THAT I'M WAITING ON DISCLOSING THE PARTICULAR PLAN FOR THAT IS TALKING WITH TOWN COUNCIL AND CREATING A PLAN FOR THE DEBT PORTION OF IT, NOTING THAT THE FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE, BUT STRATEGICALLY PLANNING ONE, WHAT PROJECT, HOW THAT IS ISSUED. BUT FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS WORKSHOP, THE PROJECTS CAN

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BUT AS OF THE END OF THE FIVE YEAR PERIOD, THERE WOULD BE ENOUGH REVENUE BETWEEN THOSE TWO SOURCES TO PAY FOR ALL OF THAT. WOULD WE WOULD WE NOT HAVE ANY NEED FOR FUTURE CAPITAL PROJECTS PLANNING FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS THEN? LIKE, IS THIS BASICALLY TAKING ALL THE CAPITAL PROJECT DOLLARS OFF THE TABLE FOR OKAY, GREAT. JOE MENTIONED THAT PART OF THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY OWNED BY THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, WHICH IS OFF OF JOHNSTOWN ROAD, WHICH I THINK IS WHERE THE PARKING LOT WOULD BE. BUT THAT IS THE CURRENT BUS GARAGE. AND I DON'T I DON'T I SHOULD KNOW THIS, BUT I THINK THEY THEY HAVE FUEL TANKS OR WHATEVER THERE THERE'S IN THE COST OF THE PROJECT. HAS THAT BEEN TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION? WHAT REMOVAL MIGHT BE NEEDED THERE OR ANY MITIGATION IF NECESSARY? SO WHEN SUPERINTENDENT SAWYERS WAS HERE, WE TALKED ABOUT THE AGREEMENT IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT OR THE SUPERINTENDENT SAID THAT THE DISTRICT WOULD DELIVER THE SITE TO US CLEAN OF ANY KIND OF ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES. THANK YOU. OKAY. IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS, I DID FORGET TO MENTION COUNCILMEMBER WILTROUT, THE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS STUDY THAT IS ALSO A RESULT OF PUBLIC FEEDBACK THAT WE HEARD THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS AS WELL. I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT. NO, THAT'S GOOD. I'M GLAD. I KNOW THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT PART. AND WE NEED PEDESTRIAN ACCESS NORTH OF 61 AND ALL THE ZONES. SO I REALLY LIKE THAT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WELL THANK YOU.

IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE FURTHER FOR KITZMILLER, WE ARE GOING TO TURN TO THE ATHLETIC CAMPUS. SO IF YOU'RE FOLLOWING ALONG IN YOUR NOTEBOOK, YOU CAN TURN TO THAT TAB. AND TURN IT OVER TO ADRIAN AND CHRIS.

SO I THINK THERE ARE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THAT CAME OUT OF THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING THAT WE'RE HERE TO ADDRESS TONIGHT. SO THE PLAN IS STILL THE SAME AS WHAT YOU YOU WOULD HAVE SEEN IN THE LAST MEETING. I'LL GO THROUGH THE PLAN A LITTLE BIT JUST TO GIVE A REFRESHER OF WHERE WE ARE, AND ALSO ALSO THE RENDERINGS. SO I'LL START AT THE AT THE EDGES AND TALK ABOUT SORT OF THE OPENING, HOW WE'RE OPENING THIS PARCEL UP TO, TO THE ADJACENT STREETS AND TO THE COMMUNITY. SO AT EACH CORNER ALONG NEW ALBANY ROAD EAST AND CENTRAL COLLEGE, WE'RE OPENING UP THE CORNERS WITH SORT OF THESE ENTRY GARDENS ENTRY FEATURES TO SORT OF WELCOME THE PUBLIC IN AND MAKE SURE THE SITE IS ACCESSIBLE AND OPEN AND, AND FEELS LIKE IT'S A PUBLIC SPACE. AND THEN REALLY THE REST OF THIS SPACE IS CRAFTED AROUND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT'S ATHLETIC FACILITIES. SO SORT OF STARTING FROM THE OUTSIDE, THERE'S A LOOP OF TRAIL, A LEISURE TRAIL AND PATHWAY THAT CIRCULATES AROUND THE ENTIRE SITE. SO IT

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THE SECRET GARDEN IS OFF OF NEW ALBANY ROAD EAST, SORT OF THE THE NORTH EAST NORTHWEST END OF THIS. AND THEN THE IMAGE IN THE TOP RIGHT IS A VIEW SORT OF DOWN THE PROMENADE BETWEEN THE ATHLETIC FIELDS, A PLACE FOR FAMILIES TO GAGAGAGAGAGAGAGAGAG. THIS WAS, I THINK IT WAS A WEEK AFTER WE PRESENTED THIS. I WAS SPENDING TIME WITH MY NEPHEW AT A BASEBALL GAME. AND JUST IMAGINE HOW AMAZING THIS WOULD BE, BECAUSE EVERYTHING THAT I WAS WALKING THROUGH WAS MUD AND THERE WAS NO SHADE. SO IT WAS. YEAH. I'M SORRY, WHERE IS THAT LOCATED? ON THE SCHEMATIC. THE PROMENADE, THE PLAY AREA ON THE LEFT. THE PLAY AREA ON THE LEFT IS LOCATED AT NUMBER NINE AND NINE. OKAY. YES. AND THEN YEAH, THERE ARE TWO ADDITIONAL VIEWS ON THE BOARDS OF SORT OF A BIRD'S EYE. ONE OF THEM INCLUDING THE SKATE PARK. AND I CAN'T SEE IT FROM HERE. BUT IS THE CONCEPT WHAT YOU HAD UP THERE FOR THE PLAYGROUND? THE ONLY WAY, THE ONLY REASON I'M ASKING THIS, THE QUESTION IS, I AGREE WITH YOU ABOUT HAVING SOMETHING CLOSE TO THE FIELDS, AND I'M JUST TRYING TO IMAGINE IF THAT'S BIG ENOUGH OF AN AREA FOR THE KIDS. OR IS THAT DID IT GET SMALLER BECAUSE WE PUT THE SKATE PARK IN THERE, OR SHOULD IT HAVE MORE PLAYGROUND SPACE VERSUS THE SKATE PARK? I'M JUST TRYING TO GET AN IDEA, THAT'S ALL. YEAH. GOOD QUESTION. IT'S IT'S ACTUALLY SIMILAR IN SIZE TO WHAT TAYLOR FARM IS. TAYLOR FARM IS PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT MORE BROKEN UP AND TAKES UP A BIGGER FOOTPRINT, BUT YOU CAN DEFINITELY. CONTAIN THE SPACE.

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WE'LL CONTINUE LOOKING AT THIS AS WE REFINE THE DESIGN. OKAY. YEAH. AND LAST QUESTION, IS THERE MULTIPLE USES FOR THIS SKATE AREA. COULD IT HAVE FLOODED LIKE PUT WATER IN THERE IN THE WINTER AND FREEZE IT FOR ICE SKATING? IS THERE OTHER PURPOSES THAT POTENTIALLY COULD BE USED FOR THAT? I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT ONE. I DO KNOW I'M GOING T T T T T T T T T T T T TS BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO MOVE THIS. WHAT WE HEARD WHEN WE TALKED TO NEWARK, DUBLIN, WHERE THEY ATTENDED BEXLEY, IS ALL OF THOSE PLACES ARE ALSO THERE'S LIKE DIFFERENT USERS FOR THE SKATE PARK. SO THERE'S A LOT OF BMX BICYCLING AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS THAT HAPPEN IN, IN THE SKATE PARKS AS WELL. AND SO THAT WAS ONE THING, LIKE A CAUTION THAT THEY GAVE US TO LIKE, REALLY BE INTENTIONAL IN YOUR DESIGN TO CATER TO ONE USER GROUP OR THE OTHER OR TO DO SEPARATE FACILITIES. SO THOSE WOULD BE DESIGN THINGS THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO FIGURE OUT OR MAKING, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF PUMP TRACKS. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN ANY PUMP TRACKS LIKE THAT'S MORE CATERED, KIND OF SIMILAR CONCEPT, BUT MORE CATERED TO CYCLING AND THOSE KIND OF ADVENTURE BIKES. I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT YOU CALL THEM BECAUSE I DON'T DO ANY OF THAT STUFF LIKE BMX, BMX, IS THAT THE RIGHT TERM? YEAH. AND SO THAT COULD BE A PUMP TRACK. IT COULD BE A COMBINATION OF THOSE TWO THINGS. THOSE WOULD BE THE DESIGN DETAILS THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO DELVE INTO FROM LIKE A COST STANDPOINT. WE'VE ESTIMATED A SKATE PARK, BUT I THINK A PUMP TRACK WOULD BE A SIMILAR COST. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU COULD FILL IT WITH WATER AND FREEZE IT THOUGH, BUT I LIKE I LIKE THAT IDEA. WELL, I DO IT IN MINNESOTA. YEAH. I MEAN, THEY HAVE SKATE PARKS. THEY CAN ICE RINKS. SO I MEAN IT IS IT'S POSSIBLE IF THE WEATHER. YEAH. WOULD ALLOW. I THINK I THINK WE'RE GOING RIGHT INTO LIKE PHASING IDEAS FROM THIS. IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE RENDERINGS WHEN WE WERE IN FRONT OF YOU UNDER CITY MANAGER'S REPORT IN AUGUST, YOU GUYS WERE RIGHTFULLY CONCERNED WITH KIND OF KNOWING WHAT THE OVERALL COST OF THIS MIGHT BE BEFORE YOU MIGHT MAKE A DECISION ON WHERE TO START IF YOU WANT TO PHASE IT. AND SO WE'VE, WE'VE TAKEN A LITTLE DEEP DIVE INTO ESTIMATING WHAT THIS COULD BE. I WILL SAY THESE ARE VERY HIGH ORDER OF MAGNITUDE COSTS BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T DONE ANY LEVEL OF DESIGN, BUT WE HAVE MET WITH CONSTRUCTION. WHO'S THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT'S PROJECTS, BECAUSE WE WANT TO STAY AS CLOSELY COORDINATED TO THEM AS WE CAN, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO DO THIS, YOU KNOW, IN TWO DIFFERENT PHASES BETWEEN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND US. SO WE HAVE THREE OPTIONS FOR YOU TO CONSIDER AND JUST HIGH LEVEL COSTS FOR THOSE OPTIONS. AND WHAT YOU COULD PROBABLY GET FOR THOSE OPTIONS. THEY DO RANGE FROM KIND OF A MINIMAL APPROACH, LESS, YOU KNOW, LEAST EXPENSIVE APPROACH TO AN ALL IN AND WHAT THAT MIGHT, WHAT THAT SO THE FIRST OPTION, THIS SHOWS YOU PRETTY MUCH ANYTHING IN COLOR WOULD BE PART OF A CITY IMPROVEMENT FOR THAT OPTION. OUTSIDE OF THAT MAIN EAST WEST ROAD THAT WE'RE WORKING ON, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ON KIND OF WHAT THE COST AND HOW THAT ROAD GETS.

SO WE KNOW THE BALL FIELDS ARE THE PHASE ONE FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, PHASE TWO NOT YET DESIGNED FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. BUT PHASE ONE WOULD GET YOU ALL THE ENTRY FEATURES.

THE WALKING PATH THAT I BELIEVE IS ABOUT A MILE. IS THAT RIGHT? YEAH, A MILE LOOP WALKING PATH, AND THEN THE MOUNDING AND ALL KIND OF THAT NATURAL PASSIVE EXPERIENCE THAT WE KNOW PEOPLE LOVE IN THIS COMMUNITY. SO THE PROS ON GOING WITH THIS OPTION, IT'S YOUR FASTEST PATH OF GETTING SOMETHING OPEN FOR THE COMMUNITY. WE KNOW PEOPLE LIKE THE WALKING TRAILS. WE THINK THAT WOULD RESONATE WITH PEOPLE. THE CON IS THAT IT IS ONLY PASSIVE RECREATION. AND SO THE ACTIVE USES WOULD GET DELAYED AND WE WOULDN'T HAVE A SET DATE. WE WENT BACK TO THE PARKS FRAMEWORK PLAN. THAT WAS FROM 2020 AND THE SURVEY WE DID. THEN WE ASKED A QUESTION LIKE, WHAT USER GROUPS DO YOU THINK ARE HAVE, YOU KNOW, THINGS TO DO IN THE NEW ALBANY PARKS? I THINK 42% SAID TEENS DON'T HAVE THINGS TO DO IN 22% SAID OLDER ADULTS DON'T HAVE THINGS TO DO. SO WHEN WE STARTED INITIALLY THINKING THROUGH A PROGRAM FOR THIS, WE TRIED TO INCLUDEWOULD O THOSE TWO GROUPS. SO THAT'S WHY YOU'RE SEEING SKATE PARKS AND THAT KIND OF STUFF. OBVIOUSLY IT INCLUDES A PLAYGROUND. PEOPLE LOVE SLIDES AND SWINGS

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I THINK THAT WOULD GO FOR A FOOTBALL PLAYER. SOCCER PLAYER. YOU COULD GO AND, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE OLD ENOUGH, SEND THEM TO THE PLAYGROUND BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T WANT TO WATCH THEIR SIBLING PLAY. SO THIS WOULD BE OPTION ONE. AND I'LL GO THROUGH THE COST ALL AT THE END. BUT THOSE ARE KIND OF THE PROS AND CONS FOR OPTION ONE. OPTION TWO IS THE ONE KIND OF WHERE STAFF FEELS LIKE THIS IS HITTING A SWEET SPOT. IT WOULD INCLUDE EVERYTHING FROM OPTION ONE, AND THEN IT COULD INCLUDE ALL OF THESE OTHER AMENITIES EXCEPT FOR THESE. THE THINGS IN THE MIDDLE THAT YOU WOULD SEE ARE THE PAVILIONS, KIND OF THE PLAZA SPACE AND THE SPLASH PAD.

AND THE THINKING BEHIND THAT IS FROM THE CON SIDE, THE PLAZA AND THE PAVILIONS WOULD WAIT FOR A LATER PHASE, BECAUSE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HASN'T DESIGNED THAT FOOTBALL STADIUM YET. AND THAT TRACK, AND IF YOU KNOW YOU'VE BEEN TO A FOOTBALL STADIUM, THERE'S A LOT OF LIKE INTEGRATION BETWEEN GATES AND, YOU KNOW, TICKETING AND WHERE CONCESSIONS ARE GOING TO BE.

AND THERE WOULD BE A RISK OF BUILDING SOMETHING NOW THAT MIGHT NOT WORK WHEN THEY ACTUALLY GET INTO THE DESIGN PHASE. AND THEN WHAT DO YOU DO? DO YOU REWORK IT? DO YOU HAVE TO TAKE IT OUT? SO THAT WOULD BE THE RISK. AND THAT WOULD BE THE REASON THAT WE WOULD TAKE THIS OUT OF THIS MIDDLE OPTION. FROM A PRO. I THINK YOU'RE GETTING THE PASSIVE USES THAT WE KNOW EVERYONE LOVES, BUT WE'RE ALSO GETTING SOME ACTIVE USES FOR THE TEENAGERS LIKE THE SKATE PARK. BUT THE OLDER ADULTS, YOU WOULD GET ON THE. LET'S SEE. ON THIS SIDE, WE HAVE ADULT SWINGS AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'VE SLATED AREAS FOR MAYBE SOMEONE MORE PASSIVE USES THAT. WHEN WE WENT TO SENIOR CONNECTIONS AND TALKED TO THEM WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE OUT OF THE PARK, THE THINGS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE THERE. SO I THINK WE'RE CATERING TO OLDER ADULTS THAT LIVE NEAR THIS AND THE TEENS, AND YOU'RE GETTING MORE OF A BALANCE BETWEEN THE PASSIVE AND THE ACTIVE AMENITIES THAT WE DON'T ALWAYS PROVIDE. NOW FOR THOSE GROUPS.

AND THEN WE DO, YOU KNOW, WE TAKE OUT A PHASE, WE DO LIKE THIS PHASE AND THEN A FINAL PHASE. AND YOU SAVE SOME COSTS BECAUSE THERE'S ESCALATION AND THERE'S MOBILIZATION COSTS. SO THAT'S A BIT OF A PRO AS WELL. AND THEN OPTION THREE WOULD BE ALL IN. WE DO IT ALL. WE THINK IT'S GREAT. WE WANT TO DO THIS ALL FOR THE COMMUNITY. THE PRO IS TO THAT IS THAT YOU'RE JUST DOING IT ALL AT ONCE, RIGHT? YOU'RE NOT MOBILIZING TWICE. YOU'RE NOT DESIGNING, YOU KNOW, OVER AND OVER. THERE'S NO DEFERRED WORK. AND YOU'RE NOT KIND OF REPEATING THOSE SOFT COSTS. YOU'RE GOING TO DESIGN ONCE, BUILD IT THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO PAY FOR IT AT THAT SAME TIME, THE CON IS THAT RISK FOR REDESIGN. THE SCHOOL DISTRICT DECIDES TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT IN THEIR PHASE TWO. AND THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD JUST HAVE TO KNOW GOING INTO THIS. AND THEN WITH THE REWORK, IF YOU WOULD HAVE TO DO THAT, WE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO CLOSE THINGS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN OPEN TO THE COMMUNITY AND THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT COULD CAUSE SOME DISRUPTION. SO I THINK FOR THOSE REASONS WHY STAFF LANDED ON THAT, OPTION TWO IS KIND OF BE SEEMED LIKE THE RIGHT BALANCE. SO THEN WHEN YOU LOOK AT ALL OF THESE, THESE ARE BIG NUMBERS. BUT YOU KNOW, WE WORK WITH RUSSELL. I THINK WE HAVE A GOOD IDEA OF WHAT THE COSTS ARE GOING TO BE. AND THEN BECAUSE WE WORK, WE WORK FOR JOE, WE ALWAYS BE A LITTLE MORE CONSERVATIVE. AND WE WE'VE BUILT IN SOME ALLOWANCES BECAUSE WE REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT THESE COSTS ARE GOING TO BE UNTIL WE DESIGN THINK WE RANGE FROM ABOUT 18 MILLION COSTS FOR AN OPTION 130 FOR AN OPTION TWO. WITH ALL OF THOSE THINGS, IF YOU WANTED TO CHANGE THEM OUT OR REMOVE SOME, WE COULD TALK THROUGH THAT, BUT I THINK THAT'S A GOOD BUDGETING NUMBER TO THINK ABOUT. AND THEN OPTION THREE BEING ABOUT 50 MILLION TO DO IT ALL. SO TODAY I THINK YOU SEE THIS REFLECTED IN YOUR BINDER. JUST THINKING THROUGH THESE OPTIONS, GIVING US FEEDBACK ON WHAT FEELS RIGHT TO YOU. IF THERE'S OTHER COMPONENTS YOU LIKE OR DON'T LIKE THAT WOULD GIVE US, YOU KNOW, WE WILL HAVE A METER THAT WILL JUST GIVE US DIRECTION AS WE PREPARE THE BUDGET TO KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHAT WE THINK WE MIGHT BE DOING IN THIS PARK. WHEN YOU SAY DOING IT ALL, GIVE ME A TIME FRAME FOR OPTION TWO TO BE DONE. SO IF WE WENT WITH OPTION TWO, WHEN IS THAT DONE? I THINK WE'VE LAID OUT, I MEAN THAT WOULD BE DESIGNED NEXT YEAR. YOU WOULD PROBABLY BE. CONSTRUCTION SOMETIME. YOU KNOW, LATE 27, EARLY 28. AND I THINK YOU WOULD BE PROBABLY AT LEAST AN 18 MONTH CONSTRUCTION CYCLE.

AGAIN, WE WOULD HAVE TO WORK WITH THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER TO SEE HOW THAT TIMES OUT WITH WHAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS DOING. BUT I THINK WITHIN, YOU KNOW, TWO, TWO AND A HALF YEARS,

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THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH. SO THIS SLIDE ACTUALLY SHOWS A SIMILAR WITH KITZMILLER. YOU CAN BUILD A GREAT PARK, BUT PEOPLE NEED A SAFE WAY TO GET TO IT. THAT'S SUPER IMPORTANT HERE AS WELL.

MAYBE EVEN MORE IMPORTANT BECAUSE OF WE KNOW A LOT OF STUDENTS ARE GOING TO BE COMING HERE. SO ALL THOSE PROJECTS UNDER DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION ARE ALSO LIKE STREET, ROAD, SIDEWALK, LEISURE TRAIL PROJECTS AND STUDIES THAT NEED TO HAPPEN IN ORDER TO. WE PUT THE BOARD IN FRONT OF THAT. BUT THAT'S YEAH, THAT'S WHAT THAT THAT SCROLL PLOT IS SUPPOSED TO KIND OF. AND YOU GUYS SHOULD GO UP AND LOOK AT IT IN CLOSE TO SEE HOW WE CAN MAKE ALL THOSE STREETS BETWEEN THE, THE SCHOOL CAMPUS, THE ACADEMIC CAMPUS, AND THE ATHLETIC CAMPUS SAFE TO WALK ON. AND IT'S NOT JUST THAT TOO. IT'S ALSO GETTING NOTTINGHAM TREES DOWN AND MAKING SAFE ACCESS FOR THE THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE IN NOTTINGHAM AND THEN ACROSS THE STREET AS WELL. SO IS THE 2027 PROPOSED BY YEAR ON THIS IS THIS BINDER THE 5058 MILLION.

DOES THAT JUST DOES THAT INCLUDE THE OPTION THREE OR IS THAT OPTION TWO THAT OPTION THREE. THAT'S OPTION THREE. THAT'S THE BIGGEST COST THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE. YEAH. OKAY. AND ADRIAN, COULD YOU JUST CONFIRM THE 67.95 ASSUMES OPTION TWO WITH THE ROAD AND TRAIL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS CORRECT. THAT IS OPTION THREE WITH ALL THE ROAD. THANK YOU. I CAN'T UNDERSTAND IT. I'M SORRY I'M A LITTLE LOST BECAUSE THIS RIGHT HERE, THIS IS DOING EVERYTHING.

OBVIOUSLY WE'VE GIVEN YOU A BUDGET NUMBER FOR EVERYTHING, RIGHT? IF YOU CHOOSE ANOTHER OPTION THAT WILL GO DOWN. OKAY. BUT OPTION TWO, IF WE DID IT TIMING WISE, IS THIS THE TIMING OF IT? WE WOULD STILL, THE ONE THING I DID HEAR WHEN WE TALKED TO YOU IN AUGUST THAT THERE WAS CONSENSUS ON THE IMPORTANCE OF TRYING TO GET SOMETHING BUILT CLOSE TO WHEN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT OPENED. SO WE WOULD SAY, WHATEVER OPTION YOU PICK, WE WOULD WANT TO START ON THAT RIGHT AWAY. AND THEN WHEN WE. THEN WE WOULD DO THE OPTION THREE OR THE, THE REMAINING PARTS THAT WOULD. SO THE REAL DIFFERENCE IS WHAT YOU'RE DESIGNING. SO, YOU KNOW, ARE WE DESIGNING OPTION ONE NOW OR ARE WE DESIGNING OPTIONS. MAYBE IT WOULDN'T EVEN DO IT RIGHT. OR IF YOU WANT TO DESIGN, IF YOU WANT TO DESIGN OPTION THREE, WE JUST DESIGN IT ALL IN ONE TIME.

IT STILL MAY TAKE 18 TO 24 MONTHS TO BUILD. IT'S REALLY THE DIFFERENCE IS HOW MUCH WE'RE DESIGNING. SO OPTION ONE OR OPTION TWO WOULD BE A QUICKER DESIGN PHASE BECAUSE IT'S NOT AS INVOLVED. AND THEN SO YOU WOULD PROBABLY START CONSTRUCTION A LITTLE BIT SOONER IF THAT. I'M SORRY. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YES. THANK YOU. YES. THANK YOU. I'M NOT GOING TO GET HUNG UP INTO THE DESIGN OF WHETHER THERE'S A SKATE PARK OR CLIMBING WALL OR WHATEVER.

CLEARLY, IT'S A GREAT DESIGN AND LAYOUT FOR OPTION ONE, TWO, 3 OR 4. ULTIMATELY, $68 MILLION IS A LOT OF MONEY. I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH THE SCHOOLS ARE PUTTING INTO THE BUILDING OUT OF THIS. WE'RE PUTTING 68 MILLION INTO PERIMETER AND ROAD CROSSING AND AMENITIES WITHIN IT. WE'RE BUILDING WHOLE PARK FOR $30 MILLION. OVER ON KITZMILLER, THIS IS DOUBLE THAT. AND I'M TRYING TO APPRECIATE SPENDING THAT MUCH MONEY. THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT EXPENDITURE, AND IT'S DRIVEN BY OUR BENEVOLENCE TO THE SCHOOLS. BUT WHAT ARE THEY SPENDING ON THIS? I DON'T SEE THIS AS A I DON'T SEE THESE AMENITIES AS AMENITIES FOR THE SCHOOL PERSONALLY. LIKE, I FEEL LIKE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS WE WOULDN'T BE BUILDING THESE IF WE WEREN'T BUILDING THESE FACILITIES FOR THE SCHOOLS. I DON'T I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S TRUE. THAT'S THE REASON WE BOUGHT THE LAND AND DONATED THE LAND. BUT I THINK IF WE HAD THE LAND, WE WOULD PUT THOSE THINGS. WE THESE ARE THESE ARE AMENITIES, I THINK, FOR THE COMMUNITY. NOT NECESSARILY. I'M NOT SAYING THEY ARE. I'M I'M PUSHING THEM SPENDING 60 MILLION HAVE STICKER SHOCK. I'M JUST SAYI JNG LIKE, I ARE A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THE COST IS RELATED TO THE RECONSTRUCTION OF 605. SO IF WE WERE TO CONVERT THIS ROAD TO MORE OF A SUBURBAN ROAD, SOMETHING MORE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT YOU HAVE IN THE BUSINESS PARK OR THE VILLAGE CENTER, WE'D HAVE STANDING CURVE AS OPPOSED TO A DITCH SECTION, SO WE'D HAVE TO EXCAVATE THE ENTIRE ROADWAY, RECONSTRUCT THE

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LIKE YOU WALK THERE A LOT, YOU WALK THERE A LOT BECAUSE YOU CAN GET TO IT FROM DIFFERENT AREAS. SO WE REALLY STRUGGLED WITH HOW TO PRESENT THIS IN A WAY TO YOU THAT YES, THERE'S GOING TO BE STICKER SHOCK, BUT ALSO THE COMPLEXITY OF THESE PROJECTS. IT'S NOT THE PROJECT THAT'S GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, WE WORK FAST, LIKE BUILT WHOLE BUSINESS PARK INFRASTRUCTURE IN A REALLY SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME. BUT THESE ARE ALSO GOING TO TAKE TIME. AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO TAKE A COMMITMENT BECAUSE IT'S NOT SOMETHING LIKE IF YOU SAY, YES, DO THIS, BUT WE GO DOWN THIS PATH AND THEN TWO YEARS, IT NEEDS TO BE KIND OF A CERTAINTY WITH THE, THE FUNDING AND THE DECISIONS THAT WERE GOING DOWN, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T JUST CHANGE COURSE YEAR TO YEAR, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF TIME TO KIND OF ACHIEVE BOTH KITZMILLER AND THIS PROJECT, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO DO, BUT THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY YOU WANTED TO GIVE YOU ALL THIS INFORMATION SO YOU CAN START THINKING THROUGH THAT AND GIVING US THIS KIND OF FEEDBACK. NOW, THAT SAID, IF YOU DECIDED THAT YOU DIDN'T WANT TO DO A SIGNIFICANT MAKEOVER TO 605, WE COULD STILL DO A LEISURE TRAIL ALONG 605, KEEP THE CURRENT ROAD INFRASTRUCTURE, AND THEN FOCUS MORE EFFORT ON THE ON THE INTERIOR. I THINK THIS THIS IS AN ALL IN NUMBER. THIS IS AN ALL IN CONCEPT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, IF YOU IF YOU WANT TO CREATE A TRANSFORMATIVE PROJECT FOR THIS AREA, THEN THIS IS PROBABLY ABOUT WHAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE TO DO IT. WELL, JUST JUST HOLD ON. MR. DIRK HAD MENTIONED OPTION FOR WHICH MAYBE IT TOOK ME A MINUTE TO CATCH UP, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE HAD THREE OPTIONS PRESENTED. BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ROAD CONSTRUCTION, IT REALLY IS OPTION FOUR. SO WE NEED TO BREAK IT DOWN ACCORDINGLY. OPTION ONE WE'RE WE HAVE A COMMITMENT TO THE SCHOOLS AND TO THE COMMUNITY TO BUILD A BASEBALL FACILITY. RIGHT. THE LEVY PASSED WITH THE PLAN TO BUILD THE BASEBALL FACILITY AND A NEW SCHOOL BUILDING. WE PUT A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT INTO A STUDY TO LOOK AT THE GROWTH PATTERNS IN THE IN THE COMMUNITY FROM A DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT AND THE NEED TO BUILD AN ADDITIONAL BUILDING. THE REST OF THIS IS, IS GOOD TO HAVE. IT'S NICE TO HAVE, BUT WE GOT TO REALLY FIGURE OUT WHAT WE CAN AFFORD AND THE PHASING ON WHAT THE CONSTRUCTION SHOULD BE. SO AGAIN, THE SCHOOLS ARE A BIG PARTNER IN THIS COMMITMENT. IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO BUILD THINGS THAT DON'T IMPACT THE FOOTBALL AND OTHER ATHLETIC FACILITY UNTIL THE SCHOOL IS READY TO PHASE IN THAT CONSTRUCTION. ALSO WITH THE ROAD NETWORK, I MEAN, THE ROAD IS NOT IMPASSABLE. IT'S NOT IN HORRIBLE CONDITION, CONDITION.

SO I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE COMMITMENT, EITHER AT THIS MEETING OR FUTURE MEETING TO

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I MEAN, IT WAS SO EXPENSIVE BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT WAS AN INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT THAT JUST HAPPENED TO PRODUCE A PARK. THAT WAS NEVER IN MY FRAME OF MIND WHEN WE STARTED THIS PROCESS, THAT WE WERE BUILDING A ROAD NETWORK, AND THEN IT WOULD JUST HAPPEN TO BIRTH A PARK. SO JUST SPEAKING FOR MYSELF, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO CHUNK THIS UP A LITTLE BIT IN A COST STRUCTURE, PHASE ONE, TWO, THREE, AND FOUR FOR BEING ROAD CONSTRUCTION AND HAVE THAT CONVERSATION IN MORE DETAIL MIGHT EVEN BE A FIFTH PHASE SINCE WE'RE ADDING TO THIS PROJECT. JUST AS CLARIFICATION FROM THE SLIDE THAT RYAN HAD SHOWED, SHE HE HAD ACTUALLY OUTLINED A BUDGET FOR. WAS IT TRAIL CONNECTIONS OR WHAT HAVE YOU ON THE SAME EXACT AREA? IS. IS THAT PART OF THIS PROJECT OR IS THAT SOMETHING SEPARATE? YOU TALKED ABOUT ROAD CONNECTIONS FROM NOTTINGHAM TO THE FIRE STATION AND ALL THAT, AND YET I SEE THE SAME KIND OF STUFF UP HERE. IF I'M READING THAT RIGHT, IS IT? OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT PROJECTS, BUT IS IT ACTUALLY ONE IN THE SAME AND SHOULD IT BE OUT OF THE SAME BUDGET IF IT IS? SO IF I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE ASKING CORRECTLY, THERE'S TWO SEPARATE TRAILS. THERE'S THE TRAIL THAT SERVES THE PARK AREA, AND THEN THERE'S THE TRAIL SECTION THAT SERVES THE BASICALLY THE ROAD RIGHT OF WAY. SO IS THERE ANY OF THAT IN THIS PROJECT THAT ANY. AND HOW'S THAT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT? SO THE ADDITIONAL 300,000 WOULD BE FOR THE TO PULL OUT AND EXPEDITE SECTIONS OF THAT TRAIL ALONG 605. AS SOON AS NEXT YEAR. THANK YOU CHRIS. SO, NOTTINGHAM, TRACE ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE PARK SO THAT IN THIS ENTIRE FLOW HERE OF STREETSCAPE, THAT'S NOT A. WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING INCLUDED IN THAT SECTION. OR IS THAT IN THIS IN THIS 67. YEAH. ALL ALL OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IS ROLLED UP INTO THAT THAT PRICE THERE. WHY ISN'T THAT PART IN THERE TO. SO I CAN CLARIFY A LITTLE BIT SO THAT. YEAH, YEAH, THE ADDITIONAL FUNDS THAT RYAN SPOKE ABOUT EARLIER, THAT'S JUST TO GET THE TRAIL CONNECTION BETWEEN NOTTINGHAM TRACE AND ATHLETIC CAMPUS, THE LARGER PROJECT, WHICH IS THE SUMMER STREET TO WALNUT, THAT BOTTOM PROJECT THERE, THAT IS TO MAKE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS BEYOND ABOVE AND BEYOND JUST ADDING TRAIL BETWEEN THAT SUBDIVISION AND ATHLETIC CAMPUS. IT'S DOING THINGS LIKE JOE SAID, NARROWING THE ROAD TO MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY, ADDING TRAIL POTENTIALLY ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD AND MAKING SOME OTHER IMPROVEMENTS. IT'S THAT'S KIND OF THE DIFFERENCE THERE. SO WOULD IT MAKE SENSE TO ADD THAT INTO THIS TOO OR NOT? NO, WE WE COULD CONSIDER IT. OUR GOAL WITH HOW IT WAS PRESENTED WAS JUST GETTING GETTING A TRAIL CONNECTION, ESTABLISHING A TRAIL CONNECTION BETWEEN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE ATHLETIC CAMPUS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. THE THE OTHER PROJECT IS NOT IS CURRENTLY PUSHED OUT TO 2029 AND 22. OKAY, SO YOU REALLY ARE THINKING MORE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, CONNECTION FROM THE SCHOOL AND SURROUNDING AREAS TO THE SITE, CORRECT AS YOUR PRIMARY OBJECTIVE. AND THEN, OKAY, THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING.

ADRIAN, WHAT IS OUR INTENTION TO DO PHASE ONE WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT? AT THE SAME TIME, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS DOING ITS CONSTRUCTION BECAUSE WE WANT TO OR BECAUSE WE NEED TO. I THINK IT'S AT COUNCIL'S DISCRETION THAT TIMING. OBVIOUSLY, THERE COULD BE SOME COST SAVINGS IF THEY'RE ALREADY ON SITE, AND WE CAN USE OUR SILLY. BUT I THINK THAT WHEN WE TALKED IN AUGUST, THAT WAS. ONE THING THAT COUNCIL SAID WAS THAT THEY WANTED TO TRY TO FIND SOME IMPROVEMENT NEAR THE TIME. PROBABLY WON'T BE FEBRUARY, BUT MAYBE IT'S THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT FOLLOWING SPRING, SUMMER. BUT AGAIN, THAT'S ALL YOUR DISCRETION WE DON'T HAVE.

THERE'S NO OBLIGATION TO DO ANYTHING. WELL, I MEAN, I GUESS TO SOME DEGREE THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF AN OBLIGATION BECAUSE I THINK THERE WAS AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TWO ENTITIES. BUT I GUESS THE THE QUESTION I HAVE IS AROUND THE OUR TIMING, BECAUSE I KNOW FROM THE SCHOOL'S PERSPECTIVE, AND WE'VE HEARD THEM SAY IT, THEY HAVE TO HAVE THIS THEIR BALL FIELDS BY FEBRUARY, ACTUALLY, PROBABLY BY OCTOBER OR NOVEMBER OF THIS NEXT YEAR, SO THAT

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SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT PHASING, IT COULD BE THAT PHASE IS FUNDED AND DESIGNED AND STARTED.

AND YOU MAY ROLL RIGHT INTO WANTING TO DO THAT FOR THE NEXT PHASE. SO THE COMMUNITY MIGHT NOT NECESSARILY KNOW THAT THIS HAS BEEN PIECED OUT IN DIFFERENT WAYS, BECAUSE IT JUST FEELS LIKE IT'S BEEN UNDER CONSTRUCTION. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WOULD HAPPEN WILL BE OUT BUILDING THE BALL FIELDS OF COUNCIL DECIDES TO DO SOME IMPROVEMENTS OR NOT. THEY WOULD FIGURE OUT THAT TIMING OF IF THEY'RE MOVING DIRT OR SOMETHING, AND THEN THEY NEED THAT FOR PART OF THE PATH SYSTEM. THAT SIMPLIFIES THAT CONSTRUCTION PIECE FOR THEM. SO THERE'S JUST A LOT OF MOVING PARTS. ONCE THESE DECISIONS ARE MADE THAT THEY, AS THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER, WILL DETERMINE THE THE TIMING OF. ADRIAN, YOU PROBABLY DON'T KNOW THIS QUITE ANSWER, BUT I'M GOING TO ASK IT ANYWAY. DO YOU HOW MANY PARKING SPACES THEY HAVE IN OPTION ONE? LIKE I WANT TO SAY 200. IT'S ABOUT 211 SPACES, ABOUT ABOUT 211, 211.5.

IT JUST WENT TO ARB LAST NIGHT, SO I'M A LITTLE FAMILIAR WITH IT. IS THAT IS THAT IN TOTAL FOR PHASE ONE AND TWO OR JUST PHASE ONE, PHASE ONE, JUST PHASE ONE. AND ADRIAN, GIVEN YOU ALL THE CONVERSATIONS YOU'VE BEEN HAVING WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, I MEAN, THEY'RE ALREADY BEHIND WHERE THEY WANTED TO BE. DO YOU HAVE ANY INDICATION AS TO THE THOUGHT PROCESS ABOUT PHASE TWO? I MEAN, BECAUSE BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, I MEAN, WE'RE LOOKING AT FROM NOW UNTIL 2030, BUT THEY'RE EVEN GOING TO BE READY TO DO THEIR PHASE TWO BY 2030.

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT PHASE TWO OF WHAT THEIR THOUGHT PROCESS IS GOING. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN ORDER TO MAKE IT MORE ATTRACTIVE OR MAKE THE PHASE TWO AREA MORE ATTRACTIVE, WAS TO GRADE IT AND SEED IT SO THAT IT'S OKAY AND IT CAN BE MOWED. SO IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE A LEFTOVER BROWNFIELD. OKAY. I THINK THAT THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. IF YOU WERE TO BUILD OUT OUR SEGMENTS, PHASE ONE, TWO, AND THREE. I THINK GIVEN THE UTILIZATION OF IT, THOSE PARKING SPACES JUST BY THE BALL FIELDS WILL PROBABLY NOT BE ADEQUATE TO THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE COMING THERE TO UTILIZE ALL OF THE CITY SERVICES AND PROGRAMS THAT THOSE TWO LOTS NORTH OF THE BALL FIELDS ARE GOING TO BE EQUALLY IMPORTANT IF YOU BUILD OUT ALL THE OTHER AMENITIES, EVEN IF THEY DON'T PUT THE FOOTBALL FIELD IN THERE, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO NEED A PLACE TO PARK. IT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT DESTINATION. YOU'RE GOING TO

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YEAH, I THINK THE TIMING OF ALL THOSE AND WHAT IS BUILT AND WHEN WILL TRIGGER THE NEED FOR PHASE ONE OF THOSE ADDITIONAL FUNDS. RIGHT. WHAT DID YOU SAY THE COST WAS FOR? OH, NEVER MIND. IT'S UP THERE. THANKS. 30 MILLION FOR OPTION TWO. OKAY. DOES OPTION ONE INCLUDE. I'M PRETTY SURE THE ANSWER IS NO. OPTION ONE INCLUDE THE ROAD, THE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS AND THE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS. THE EAST WEST DRIVE. SO THAT IS ACTUALLY BEING THE THE DIAGRAM DOESN'T REFLECT IT ADEQUATELY, BUT THAT IS BEING BUILT WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS PHASE ONE, BECAUSE IT'S NEEDED TO ACCESS THE SITE. I GUESS I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE $18 MILLION IS FROM IS FOR AN OPTION ONE. WHAT ARE WE GETTING FOR $18 MILLION? YOU'RE GETTING THE ONE MILE PERIMETER TRAIL. OKAY, ON LOOP, THERE'S A AN AMOUNT OF GRADING THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN THAT HAS A COST TO IT. THE BOARDWALKS ON THE SOUTHWEST PORTION OF THE SITE DEFINITELY HAVE A COST TO. AND IN THOSE ENTRY USERS. AND WHAT WAS THE LAST. THE ENTRY FEATURES KIND OF TO GET PEOPLE INTO THESE THREE CORNERS OF THE PARK. YEAH. I LIKE OPTION TWO BECAUSE IT'S MORE TANGIBLE TO SEE LIKE, IT'S MORE EXCITING TO TALK ABOUT $18 MILLION. AND TELL ME ABOUT THE GRADING. IS THAT FOR THE SITE OR WHAT WE WANT TO DO? OR IS THAT FOR THE BASEBALL FIELDS OR IT'S NOT FOR THE BASEBALL FIELD? OKAY, SO WHAT WE WANT TO DO. SO THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS AND WE'RE TRYING TO LIKE, IF YOU'VE DRIVEN AROUND THERE, IT'S ALL MOUNDED, REALLY MATURE, AMAZING LANDSCAPING. SO WE REALLY WANT TO BE SURGICAL ON HOW WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT WORTH REGRADING IT TO NOT HAVE THOSE MATURE, THAT MATURE LANDSCAPE. THERE IS, IF YOU REMEMBER, IT STARTED OFF AS A SLEDDING HILL AND THEN JUST KIND OF EVOLVED INTO THE LIKE OBSERVATION MOUNT THAT IS THE THAT GOES ALONG THIS EDGE OF THE DIAMONDS. SO THERE'S SOME GRADING TO THAT. THE ENTRY FEATURES, LIKE YOU GUYS ARE ASKING ALL THE RIGHT QUESTIONS WHEN WE GO THROUGH THESE PROCESS, WE DO THIS ALL INTERNALLY AND YOU SEE THEM AND YOU SEE THE RENDERINGS AND THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL. BUT THEN YOU'RE LIKE, YEAH, BUT THEN I WILL JUST SAY THAT THE BUILT PRODUCT, WHETHER IT'S ROSE RUN OR TAYLOR, I THINK THE EVIDENCE IS THE BUILT PRODUCT IS WHAT MAKES THE DETAILS AND THE QUALITY OF THESE PARKS DIFFERENT THAN YOU PLACES. AND THAT'S NOT TRYING TO SELL YOU ON IT. I JUST THINK THAT IS THE REALITY OF BUILDING A PARK AND THE QUALITY THAT ARE BUILT HERE VERSUS WHAT YOU MIGHT SEE SOMEWHERE ELSE. AND THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT'S BETTER OR RIGHT. IT'S JUST THE PRICE TAG THAT COMES ALONG WITH IT. HOW LONG WOULD OPTION ONE TAKE TO BUILD? I MEAN, WHAT WE WILL DO THAT AS FAST AS WE CAN TO DELIVER SOMETHING FOR THE COMMUNITY, BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO.

THE GOAL WOULD BE TO TIME THAT AS CLOSE AS POSSIBLE TO THE OPENING OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, PHASE ONE AS POSSIBLE. CAN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT PHASE ONE OPEN WITHOUT OPTION ONE? YEAH. OKAY.

SO. OKAY, YOU GUYS WANT TO MOVE ON. DO YOU WANT TO KEEP DISCUSSING? OKAY. THANK YOU.

I'M GOING TO MENTIMETER AGAIN. HOPEFULLY IT'S STILL UP. I THINK ABOUT THIS ONE. HERE IS THIS ONE. WE'RE TALKING FOR, RIGHT? THAT WAS WEIRD. THAT WAS THE PROPORTION. JOHN. IT'S UP TO YOU, JOHN. AGAIN. OH, NO. YOU GOTTA GO FASTER, BUDDY. YEAH. WHICH WAY ARE YOU GOING? THEY'RE LOOKING AT YOU, JOHN. YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE HOLDING THE PHONE. I DARE YOU TO. OPTION THREE. THAT'S GREAT. THIS IS. I DON'T THINK THE COLUMN HAS A CAVEAT, I THINK. THEY DO. ALL

[02:10:03]

YES. RIGHT. EXACTLY. OKAY. SO WE ARE GOING TO TOUCH ON SECTION FOUR HERE. THIS ONE IS A LITTLE LESS VISUALLY INTENSIVE, BUT THIS IS SECTION FOUR OF YOUR BINDERS HERE FOR THE VILLAGE CENTER PROJECT. SO THIS IS A TOTAL OF SEVEN PROPOSED PROJECTS. AND REALLY HERE'S, YOU KNOW, YOU ALL ARE WELL WELL AWARE OF THIS. PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT CONTINUES TO INCREASE AND RAMP UP IN THE VILLAGE CENTER. WE HAVE THE PROJECT BEING BUILT, THE EDGEHILL SUBDIVISION. WE'LL START CONSTRUCTION IN 2027. WE ALSO HAVE SOME SMALL BUSINESSES OPENING UP LATER THIS FALL. APOLLO COFFEE AT 24 EAST MAIN. THAT'S NOT EAST MAIN HARVEST PIZZA. APOLLO IS IN THE OLD GRIFFIN FLORAL BUILDING ON HIGH STREET, SO REALLY THE TRUNK OF THESE SEVEN PROJECTS HERE, SIX OUT OF THE SEVEN PROJECTS ARE REALLY ROAD IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS TO HELP SUPPORT THOSE PRIVATE PROJECTS. YEAH, AND THIS IS ALL, AGAIN, OVER THE SPAN OF 2027, ALL THE WAY TO 2030. WE DO HAVE ONE PROJECT PLANNING PROJECT, WHICH WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT, IS TO STUDY ADDITIONAL PHASES OF ROSE RUNS OR ROSE RUN. PHASE THREE AND PHASE FOUR, BUILDING OFF OF THE MOMENTUM. THAT'S SUCCESS RIGHT BEHIND OUR BUILDING ALL THE WAY UP TO THE EDGEHILL DEVELOPMENT THERE. SO IN TOTAL, THIS PROGRAM IS $18.7 MILLION, BROKEN UP INTO SEVEN PROJECTS. I'M HERE. I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SPECIFIC PROJECTS. MIGHT ALSO NEED TO PULL IN SOME QUOTES FROM OUR SERVICE STAFF AS WELL, DEPENDING ON WHAT THEY'RE. AND I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION. SORRY, I SOLD MYSELF SHORT THERE. WE DID MAKE ONE MAP KIND OF SHOWING WHERE ALL THESE PROJECTS ARE. THIS LIST GETS BUMPED DOWN TO FIVE BECAUSE REALLY TWO OUT OF THE SEVEN ARE DESIGN PROJECTS THAT LEAD INTO CONSTRUCTION. SO HERE THEY ARE. SO AGAIN, ROSE RUN PHASE THREE AND FOUR WHICH ARE SHOWN DOWN HERE, SOUTH GRANVILLE ROAD, MILLWOOD, HAMLET, SOUTH SEGMENT. SO THIS IS REALLY STUDYING WHAT THAT ROAD TYPOLOGY IS FROM MILLER AVENUE REALLY. IT'S FROM THE UPPER EAST ALL THE WAY UP TO THE HAMLET SITE. SO THIS WOULD ADD SOME ON STREET PARKING, WHICH WE KNOW WE'RE IN DESPERATE NEED OF TO SUPPORT OUR SMALL BUSINESSES AND ADDITIONAL PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL OCCUR IN THIS AREA. SWICKARD WOODS BOULEVARD. IMPROVEMENTS. THIS WILL HELP SUPPORT THE THE NEW SCHOOL DISTRICT OR THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL THAT'S BEING THAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT RIGHT NOW. MILLER AVENUE EXTENSION TO EDGEHILL EAST. SO THAT'S RIGHT BESIDE. OH MY GOSH, WHAT DO THEY CALL IT NOW? THE ASSISTED LIVING. YEAH, THE ASSISTED LIVING. THANK YOU. THE LIVING FACILITY. IT'S CHANGED NAMES OVER A FEW TIMES OVER THE YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN HERE. AND THEN THE LAST PROJECT WOULD BE STUDYING. YOU KNOW WHAT IF IN THE FUTURE, WOULD AN ADDITIONAL ROAD CONNECTIONS LOOK LIKE NORTH OF FOUNDERS AVENUE? THAT'S PROJECT NUMBER FIVE. THAT'S ALL I GOT FOR THIS ONE QUESTION. THE FIRST ONE ROWS ONE, THREE AND FOUR. WHO OWNS THAT LAND? SO THIS I BELIEVE IS STILL OWNED BY THE NEW ALBANY COMPANY HERE. BUT THIS COULD EXTEND ALL THE WAY FROM ROSE RUN TO HERE ALL THE WAY OUT, WHICH IS NOT SHOWN ON THE SCREEN. I APOLOGIZE ALL THE WAY UP TO THE EDGEHILL COMMUNITY, WHICH IS OWNED BY THE CITY. IT WILL BE DEDICATED TO THE CITY AS PART OF THAT, THAT SUBDIVISION. SO VIRTUALLY ALL THAT LAND ALL THE WAY EAST OF MAIN STREET EXTENSION, ALL OF THAT IS NEW ALBANY LAND, RIGHT? NEW ALBANY, CORRECT? YES. FROM HERE TO HERE. YES. THERE'S PORTIONS OF HERE THAT ARE ALREADY UNDER CITY CONTROL OR WILL BE DEDICATED TO THE CITY AS PART OF THE SUBDIVISION, I GUESS. SO THAT'S JUST A STUDY.

I WOULD JUST TRY TO UNDERSTAND BEFORE WE SPEND MONEY ON DESIGN, THE AVAILABILITY AND COST, BEFORE WE SPEND A LOT OF MONEY ON DESIGNING SOMETHING THAT EITHER MAY BE TOO EXPENSIVE TO TO CONTINUE OR WOULDN'T BE AVAILABLE BECAUSE THEY WANT TO DEVELOP SOMETHING ELSE. SURE.

AND THAT'S A QUESTION WOULD NEED TO BE ANSWERED. YES. PART OF THAT STUDY WILL HELP US ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS. GREAT. CHRIS, HOW FAR UP DID YOU SAY IT GOES? I'M SORRY I MISSED THAT. I'M SORRY. I SHOULD HAVE INCLUDED A LARGER IMAGE. BUT THE EDGEHILL DEVELOPMENT, IF YOU CAN KIND OF PICTURE IT IN YOUR MIND'S EYE AGAIN, PARKWAY, WHICH YOU JUST SAW A VIDEO OF, IS RIGHT BEHIND THE FIRE STATION. OKAY. EVERYTHING SOUTH OF THE PARKWAY IS EDGEHILL, AND

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SO IT'S ALL SOUTH. ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OTHER ELEMENTS OF THIS PROGRAM RIGHT NOW? IF NOT, WE WILL MOVE ON. WE'LL BRING CHELSEA UP TO GIVE OUR FINAL PRESENTATION, OUR FINAL SECTION, WHICH IS CEDARBROOK ROAD IMPROVEMENTS BUILDING. WE'RE JUST DOING.

OKAY. THIS IS OUR LAST PROPOSED PROGRAM AND IT IS FOR CEDAR BROOK. AS SOME OF YOU ARE AWARE, HOPEFULLY ALL OF YOU ARE AWARE THAT THIS YEAR, CITY STAFF SPENT TIME EXPLORING THE RESIDENT INTEREST AND POTENTIAL STREETSCAPE OR ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN CEDAR BROOK SUBDIVISION, AND THIS WORK INCLUDED TWO ROUNDS OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT. THE FIRST ONE WAS AN ONLINE SURVEY AND THE SECOND ONE WAS THE PUBLIC OPEN HOUSE. BOTH THE SURVEY DATA AND THE OPEN HOUSE FEEDBACK HAVE SHAPED STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS FOR POTENTIAL FUTURE PROJECTS RELATED TO CEDAR BROOK. THE ONLINE SURVEY WAS INTENDED TO GAUGE INTEREST IN THE FUTURE ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS, AND ASKED RESIDENTS TO NAME THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT THEY MOST WANTED TO SEE. AND WE DID RECEIVE 61 COMPLETED SURVEYS AT THE OPEN HOUSE, RESIDENTS WERE ABLE TO REVIEW FIVE ROADWAY CONCEPTS AND COMPLETE A PREFERENCE WORKSHEET. STAFF RECEIVED 56 COMPLETED WORKSHEETS. AND I HEAR LAUGHING BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A LOT OF STAFF MEMBERS AND MEMBERS ON THE SCREEN THERE. SARAH IS ALSO HERE TO MEET WITH MATT, SO SHE'LL BE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING CEDAR BROOK. THE SURVEY RESULTS FROM THE ONLINE SURVEY FOUND THAT MOST PARTICIPANTS WERE OPEN TO IMPROVEMENTS. 84% OF THE RESPONDENTS SAID YES OR WERE OPEN TO IT, AND ONLY 16% WANTED THE STREETS LEFT AS THEY ARE.

OF THOSE THAT STATED THEY WERE INTERESTED IN IMPROVEMENTS, THE ONES THAT THEY WERE MOST WANTING TO SEE WERE STREET LIGHTS, SIDEWALKS AND DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS. SO AT THE OPEN HOUSE WE DID SHARE WITH THEM PROPOSED STREET CONCEPTS, AND THERE WERE FIVE CONCEPTS THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO REVIEW. THE FIRST ONE WAS NO BUILD, RESURFACE, EASEMENT, ONLY THE SECOND OPTION WAS UNCURBED IMPROVEMENTS WITH LEISURE TRAIL. THE THIRD WAS UNCURBED IMPROVEMENTS WITH SIDEWALKS. THE FOURTH OPTION WAS CURB IMPROVEMENTS WITH SIDEWALK, AND THE FINAL OPTION WAS CURBED. IMPROVEMENTS WITH LEISURE TRAIL. AS FOR THE FEEDBACK OF THE OPEN HOUSE, RESIDENTS DID NOT REJECT IMPROVEMENTS, BUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS DIVIDED ON HOW FAR THEY SHOULD GO. STAFF RECEIVED 27 SHEETS THAT INDICATED THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME IMPROVEMENTS, AND 27 SHEETS THAT WANTED RESURFACE ONLY, SO THEY WERE SPLIT RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE, EXCEPT FOR THE TWO SHEETS THAT INDICATED NO PREFERENCE. THERE WERE 23 RESIDENTS WHO INDICATED THEY WANTED SOME IMPROVEMENTS THAT ALSO INDICATED THEY WANTED A PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION, AND 16 OF THOSE RESPONDENTS INDICATED THEY WANTED CURBED. AND SEPARATELY, 11 OF THE 27 RESURFACE ONLY DID INDICATE THAT THEY WOULD LIKE DRAINAGE FIXES OR INTERSECTION LIGHTS. SO IN SUMMARY, RESIDENTS WERE SPLIT DOWN THE MIDDLE. LIKE I SAID, ON HOW FAR TO TAKE THE IMPROVEMENTS. EVERYONE AGREED THAT ON THE BASICS FOR REPAVING, FIXING THE DRAINAGE, NO NEW ROAD CONNECTIONS AND LIGHTS AT INTERSECTIONS ONLY. CEDAR BROOK DRIVE IS THE ONLY STREET WITH A CLEAR CONSENSUS. ALL EIGHT CEDAR BROOK RESIDENTS THAT WERE IN ATTENDANCE AT THE OPEN HOUSE DID INDICATE THAT THEY WOULD LIKE A BUILD OPTION WITH A

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SO I KNOW THAT WASN'T A CONSIDERATION WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, BUT I'D LOVE TO SEE SOMEHOW IF WE COULD HAVE SOME COST ESTIMATES AROUND THAT AS WELL, JUST TO SEE WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE. BECAUSE LIKE I SAID THIS, I KNOW THAT RAIN WAS A LOT, BUT IT DID PROVE THAT THAT SUBDIVISION HAS NO WAY OUT. IF IT GETS FLOODED AGAIN UNTIL THAT WATER SUBSIDES.

OKAY, YEAH, WE COULD EASILY FOLD THAT INTO THE STUDY THAT WE'RE PROPOSING FOR NEXT YEAR.

IT COULD BE DRAINAGE, PEDESTRIAN, AND HOWEVER WE WANT TO WORD THAT EMERGENCY EMERGENCY CONNECTION CONNECTOR RIGHT THERE. I THINK THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE THE WORDING. AND ONCE YOU CONNECT SOUTH AT SOME POINT, POSSIBLY, THEN, YOU KNOW, CEDAR BROOK CONTINUES ON DOWN.

WALTON. I THINK THAT DOES TAKE CARE OF POTENTIALLY ANOTHER WAY OUT OF THERE, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE NICE IN THE MEANTIME BECAUSE YOU'RE TALKING THREE, 4 OR 5 YEARS OUT POTENTIALLY LONGER. I JUST THINK IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO LOOK AT IT AT LEAST. OKAY. AND THEY DO MAKE EMERGENCY BOLLARDS THAT A FIRE TRUCK IS PUSHED DOWN IF NEEDED AND THEN OR HAVE IT REMOVED IF THERE'S A FLOOD SITUATION. JUST JUST FOR MEMORY. I JUST SAW THAT THERE WERE 65 RESPONSES, 61 RESPONSES. HOW MANY TOTAL HOMES ARE THERE? 71. 70. YEAH. SO WE'RE WE'RE OVER 50% MARK, WHICH IS GOOD. THE SURVEY DID NOT INCLUDE SEWER AND WATER. NO. AND WHAT IS THE CURRENT ZONING FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY? AND THAT IS THE LIMITED HOW MANY UNITS PER ACRE? ONE. ONE. YEAH.

SO IF SOME OTHER DEVELELELELELET IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE MADE AND DECIDED TO BUY THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD, IT'S STILL OUR YES. ONE OTHER POINT I'LL MAKE ON MY QUEST FOR THAT EMERGENCY.

ACCESS THE KIDS. ACCORDING TO ALL THE NEIGHBORS, THE KIDS USE THAT ROAD AND THEN THAT

[02:25:07]

THERE'S NOTHING TO GO. GREAT. WELL, IF YOU WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT, WE'RE KIND OF REACHING OUR FINAL SLIDES HERE. TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK ALL OF YOU GUYS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY NOT ONLY TO PRESENT THIS TO YOU TODAY, BUT FOR GIVING US THE DIRECTION TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY. I WOULD SAY BY FAR, AT LEAST THE TIME THAT I'VE BEEN HERE, THE EIGHT YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN HERE, THIS IS THE MOST COMMUNITY OUTREACH THAT WE'VE DONE IN A SINGLE YEAR. AND IT'S BEEN IT'S BEEN A GREAT EXPERIENCE FOR OUR ENTIRE TEAM. SO WE APPRECIATE YOU GIVING US THAT OPPORTUNITY.

[9. PRIOITIZATION EXERCISE(S)]

I THINK WE WERE GOING TOWARDS OPTION TWO WITH OUR LAST EXERCISE. SO MAYBE WE GET A LITTLE BIT OF CONVERSATION AROUND THE NO. IS THE NO TIED TO THE 68 MILLION. IS IS IT MORE POINTING TOWARDS LET'S STUDY OPTION TWO MORE PRESENT MORE AN UPDATED NUMBER, MAYBE OPTION TWO. THAT WAS MY REASON. OKAY. ANY OF THE OTHER NODES AGREE WITH WHAT MATT HAS AFFIRMED. YEAH. OKAY. SO IF WE WERE TO SEPARATE OUT THE ROAD PROJECTS AND YOU BREAK THAT UP INTO A DIFFERENT CATEGORY WITH THE RESULTS CHANGE, ARE YOU SAYING OPTION TWO PLUS ROADS? SO, SO I'M ASSUMING THAT THE, THE FOUR NOS ARE BECAUSE THE, THE NUMBERS THAT INCLUDE THE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS ARE IN THERE. SO IF WE WERE TO SEPARATE OUT THE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS, WE WERE JUST FOCUSED ON WHAT GOES ON WITHIN THE PERIMETER OF THE PARK. SO SO OPTION TWO IS THE PARK WOULD, WOULD THESE RESULTS CHANGE? I THINK YOU NEED TO SEPARATE OUT THE ROAD PIECE.

WHEN YOU SAY IT'S A SIGNIFICANT PART, I THINK YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PARK IS GOING TO COST. I THINK THE ROAD IS A ROAD PROJECT. OKAY. FOR ME TO SAY YES TO SOMETHING I'D LIKE TO SEE AS AN OPTION FOR WITH THAT OVER THERE. IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PARK, WHAT'S THE PARK GOING TO COST US? WE CAN DO THAT. YEAH. I MEAN, JOE, YOU'RE TO YOUR YOUR QUESTION.

YES, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT SPREAD OUT PERSONALLY. BUT TO MIKE'S POINT, IF I'M LOOKING AT $70 MILLION, I I'M A NO RIGHT NOW, JUST ON THE SHEER FACT, I JUST I NEED TO LOOK AT IT MORE.

SURE. YOU KNOW, BUT IF YOU PUSH ME, OPTION TWO IS THE ONE THAT I LIKE THE BEST. SO THAT DIDN'T ALLOW ME TO ANSWER THAT WAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO THAT'S HELPFUL. IS THAT FAIR? OKAY, WE'LL WE'LL PREPARE SOME REVISED NUMBERS WITH OPTION TWO AS THE BASE IN NOVEMBER AND TAKING A STAB AT WHAT SOME SORT OF PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY COULD LOOK LIKE JUST TO MAKE SURE THE SITE IS ACCESSIBLE, BUT MAYBE NOT THE FULL SET OF ROAD CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THAT FULL $7 MILLION THAT SOUND GOOD TO EVERYONE AND THE TIME. WAIT A

[02:30:04]

YEAH. I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD. YEAH. AND WE COULD EVEN BREAK UP THE WE COULD EVEN BREAK UP THE ROAD PACKAGE INTO A COUPLE OF COMPONENTS. THE ONLY REASON, AT THE RISK OF BEING A BROKEN RECORD, THE ONLY REASON WE DID THIS THIS TIME AROUND, WE PRIOR YEARS, WE WOULD HAVE DIVIDED UP THESE PROJECTS OVER A PERIOD OF ABOUT TEN YEARS, AND WE WOULD HAVE HAD EACH INDIVIDUAL PROJECT. WE ONLY DID THIS THIS YEAR BECAUSE THIS WAS KIND OF LIKE A BIG SWING. WE THOUGHT, WELL, FOR THE FIRST TIME, WE COULD TAKE ON SOME REALLY SIGNIFICANT PROJECTS HERE AND KNOCK THEM ALL OUT IN AN ABBREVIATED PERIOD OF TIME. DOESN'T MEAN WE HAVE TO. SO WHAT WE COULD DO IS BREAK DOWN A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT ROAD PACKAGES. WE IT FEELS LIKE THERE'S MORE OF A PREFERENCE FOR OPTION TWO AS FAR AS THE PARK IS CONCERNED.

SO WE CAN. WE CAN LEAD WITH THAT. SO WE CAN GIVE YOU 2 OR 3 DIFFERENT CHOICES AS FAR AS THE ROADS AND THE TRAILS ARE CONCERNED. ALL RIGHT. CAN I JUST ALSO SAY, I THINK IT'S IT'S NICE TO HEAR YOU GUYS SAYING ON A THEORETICAL KIND OF HIGH LEVEL, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE PLENTY OF MONEY FOR ALL THIS, BUT I THINK WE'RE GOING TO FEEL A LOT MORE COMFORTABLE. WHEN YOU PRESENT US WITH A $67 MILLION PARK. WHEN YOU SHOW US A WE'RE IN GREAT. YOU KNOW, WE GOT PLENTY OF MONEY FOR ALL THIS. SHOW US THAT DETAIL, SHOW US WHY AND HOW. AND MAYBE THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE. I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT THIS. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO COMPLIMENT EVERYONE THAT DID ALL THIS WORK. THIS WAS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK, AND I THINK IT TOOK SOME HITS TONIGHT. AND I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT, BECAUSE THAT SHOULDN'T BE THE WAY IT FEELS WHEN YOU WALK OUT THE DOOR. THIS WAS TREMENDOUS WORK. AND THESE ARE TRANSFORMATIVE PROJECTS AND THEY'RE AMAZING POTENTIAL FOR OUR CITY. AND THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE'VE ASKED FOR. IT'S WHAT WE WANT. IT'S WHERE WE'RE HEADED. AND YOU'RE TELLING US THAT THE MONEY IS GOING TO TURN OUT TO FEEL LIKE A NO BRAINER, BUT WOW. I MEAN, WHEN YOU PRESENT THESE KINDS OF NUMBERS AND WE HAVEN'T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO KNOW THAT IT'S A NO BRAINER, AND WE'RE THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO VOTE AND RESIDENTS ARE GOING TO HEAR THESE NUMBERS. IT'S A LOT FOR US TO TAKE ON IN ONE EVENING. SO I THINK MAYBE TAKING A LITTLE BIT OF A STEP BACK, SHOWING US WHY THAT THE MONEY IS NOT AN ISSUE, BREAKING THESE THINGS DOWN A LITTLE BIT MORE.

I LOVE THE CONCEPT OF SAYING, WE'RE GOING TO PLAN AHEAD LIKE THIS. WE'RE GOING TO KNOW WHEN OUR STAFF'S GOING TO NEED TO DO, TO DO WHAT? WE'RE GOING TO KNOW WHEN THE COW CASH OUTLAYS ARE GOING TO BE. THESE ARE THE MAJOR TRANSFORMATIVE PROJECTS WE'RE WORKING ON. I THINK IT'S FANTASTIC, BUT WE'VE NEVER DONE IT THIS WAY. AND SO I THINK MAYBE WE JUST ALL HAD A LITTLE BIT OF STICKER SHOCK TONIGHT. SO MAYBE WE ALL JUST TAKE A LITTLE STEP BACK ON IT. WE'LL WE'LL COME TO A GREAT PLACE WITH IT. SO I, I AGAIN, MY COMPLIMENTS AND THANK YOUS TO ALL OF YOU FOR ALL THIS WORK. YOU'VE PUT TOGETHER SOME AMAZING THINGS FOR US TO LOOK AT. AND I THINK WE'LL GET THERE FROM A PROCESS PERSPECTIVE, I LOVE THIS. THIS WAS SO EASY TO LOOK AT AND UNDERSTAND. SO I APPRECIATE THAT FOR SURE. AND IT'S EXCITING. YEAH, IT'S IT'S REALLY EXCITING. YEAH. I WOULD ECHO THE WORK YOU'VE DONE IS AMAZING. I KNOW I CHALLENGE A LOT OF THINGS WHEN IT COMES TO DOLLARS AND SPENDING AND DETAILS. THAT'S MY NATURE. BUT SEEING ALL OF IT IN DETAIL ALSO GIVES US THAT STICKER SHOCK. AND TO MARLENE'S POINT, UNDERSTANDING WHAT WE CAN FUND. BUT I ALSO KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT OCCUR GOING FORWARD THAT WE DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT IF YOU HAVE $500 TO SPEND, DO YOU SPEND ALL OF IT, OR DO YOU SPEND 450 KNOWING YOU HAVE A RESERVE FOR THE UNEXPECTED? SO AS WE LOOK AT THIS, I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE THAT ALTHOUGH YOU MANAGE THE MONEY SO TIGHT, I AGREE. BUT CLEARLY, CLEARLY HAVING A CONCEPT JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE 500, WE SHOULDN'T SPEND 500. WE NEED TO BE HAVE SOMETHING THERE BECAUSE THERE WILL BE THE UNEXPECTED. THERE WILL BE THINGS THAT WILL COME ALONG. I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO TELL US THAT WE'RE NOT SPENDING ALL 500.

I AGREE, BUT THAT THAT IS WHAT MAKES IT. THAT IS WHAT MAKES IT SO HARD. BUT WE NEED TO WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CUSHION IS, RIGHT? WE NEED TO FEEL IT. WE WANT TO FEEL THE CUSHION.

YEAH. IN ORDER FOR US TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE DIRECTION OF THE COUNCIL WOULD BE FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS, IT WAS HELPFUL. FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I, I MEAN, I HAVE A FULL PROGRAM THAT I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THAT I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT TO YOU IN A WAY THAT IT'S FULLY BAKED AND UNDERSTOOD, WORKING THE PIECES TOGETHER. IT JUST IS TAKING A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT IT TO YOU WITH THE OPERATING BUDGET, BECAUSE IT ALSO IS SOMETHING

[02:35:05]

OKAY, GREAT. I JUST LOVE AND THIS IS FOR CEDARBROOK ROAD IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. AGAIN, THIS WOULD JUST BE FOR THE PEDESTRIAN DRAINAGE AND EMERGENCY ACCESS STUDY IN 2027. AND THEN WE HAVE ONE FINAL QUESTION TO END OUR SESSION TONIGHT. IS THERE ANYTHING THIS IS AN OPEN ENDED QUESTION YOU CAN PUT INTO MENTIMETER. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT TONIGHT IN TERMS OF CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT YOU GUYS ARE ALL INTERESTED IN? WE'LL TAKE THIS LIST AND LOOP THAT INTO OUR LARGER PRESENTATION AND THEN OPEN UP MORE PROJECTS. I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT FALLS, WHETHER IT'S BUDGET OR CAPITAL. I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING NOW, AND WE'RE GOING TO EXPERIENCE EVEN MORE AS GANTON FINISHES OUT AND THAT DEVELOPMENT GETS BUILT OUT, IS LOOKING AT ROADS, TRANSPORTATION, TRANSPORTATION, AND THE CONGESTION. I THINK THAT LEADS TO CAPITAL SPENDING IN TERMS OF ALLEVIATING SOME OF THOSE CHALLENGES. 161 IN HAMILTON ROAD, FOR EXAMPLE, I DON'T KNOW WHERE OR HOW WE COULD GET SOME FORM OF PROJECTED ROAD OR TRANSPORTATION STUDIES TO SHOW E GOING TO EXPERIENCE, WHAT ARE THE CONGESTIONS? BECAUSE I CANDIDLY WORRY ABOUT 62161 IN GANTON PARKWAY. WHEN YOU HAVE THE HOSPITAL CENTER OPENING ALL OF THOSE HOMES AND ADDITIONAL, YOU KNOW, CONSTRUCTION GOING ON EAST ON GANTON, CLEARLY WE GOT A PROBLEM ON HAMILTON OR HARLEM. AND. 161 ARE THERE OTHER PLACES THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET SURPRISED BECAUSE TRAFFIC IS A PAIN TO THE COMMUNITY. IT'S A PAIN TO THE SERVICE DEPARTMENT TRYING TO ADEQUATELY DEAL WITH THAT, AS WELL AS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND HAVING TO HANDLE THOSE THINGS. SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE A STUDY OR SOMETHING WOULD BE FUNDED TO REALLY GET US AHEAD OF THE GAME ON TRANSPORTATION SO WE CAN, AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT FALLS IN CAPITAL OR BUDGET, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT GOING FORWARD.

WE COULD PULL THAT FROM THE OPERATING BUDGET AND WE COULD WORK WITH MARCY. THEY HAVE THEIR THEIR TRAFFIC MODELING PROGRAM, AND THEN WE COULD OVERLAY OUR DATA ON TOP OF THAT AND UPDATE THOSE NUMBERS FOR YOU. YEAH. AND I APPRECIATE THAT COMMENT TOO. AND WE ARE ALIGNED. AND WE'VE, WE'VE ACTUALLY OUR CITY ENGINEER WHO'S HERE, JUSTIN JUST HAD A CONVERSATION TODAY WITH EP FERRIS ABOUT THIS VERY THING. AND WE ARE WORKING ON

[02:40:05]

AND. ALL RIGHT. GREAT. ANYTHING TO CLOSE THIS OUT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR ALL THE FEEDBACK. AND WE'LL BRING BACK SOME FOLLOW UP INFORMATION FOR YOU. AND THEN WHEN WE ROLL OUT THE BUDGET NOVEMBER, YOU'LL HAVE A FULL BRIEFING ON WHY I'M SO OPTIMISTIC ABOUT THE FUTURE. GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE WANT

[10. ESTABLISH DATE AND TIME FOR 2028 CAPITAL PROJECTS WORKSHOP]

WE HAVE A DAY THAT MONDAY, NOVEMBER 16TH, AND IF WE'RE NOT READY, THAT'S OKAY. WHAT DAY? THE MONDAY BEFORE THE TUESDAY MEETING. MONDAY. I HAVE THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 13TH. SO. 16.

I'M LOOKING AT LAST YEAR. WE HAVE MONDAY, NOVEMBER 16TH STARTING AT 830 TO 1230. RIGHT NOW FOR THE BUDGET MEETING. IS THAT WORK FOR COUNCIL? 8:30 A.M. 83838 30. YES. 8:30 A.M.

NOVEMBER 30TH. 830 TO 1230. NOVEMBER 16TH. GOT IT. IS THAT HERE OR SERVICE? SHOULD BE HERE.

I THINK WE HAVE IT HERE. YES. YEP. THAT'S BETTER. YEAH. THE ANNUAL BUDGET PROGRAM HERE.

YEAH. OKAY. WOULD IT BE OKAY WITH COUNCIL IF WE PICKED AN OFF TUESDAY? AND WE CAN START DURING THE DAY? PART OF THE REASON WE GOT INTO THE NIGHT WAS TO MAKE SURE YOU ALL GOT HERE. BUT IDEALLY. AND THE STAFF WOULD BE NICE TO START, SAY 1230 ON THE OFF TUESDAY.

THIS IS FOR THE 2020. YEAH. EIGHT CAPITAL PROJECTS. SO WE WERE LOOKING AT SETTING KIND OF A STANDARD DATE OF THE SECOND FRIDAY OF EVERY SEPTEMBER. OKAY. SO WE ARE LOOKING AT STARTING IN THE AFTERNOON ON SEPTEMBER 10TH, 2027 FOR THE 2028 CAPITAL BUDGET. AND WHAT WAS THE START TIME? SORRY, IN PROBABLY LUNCHTIME, SEPTEMBER 10TH. WHAT DO YOU WHAT DO YOU DID YOU SAY YOU WANT TO MAKE IT YOUR KIND OF RECURRING. WE'RE LOOKING AT THE SECOND FRIDAY OF EVERY SEPTEMBER TRYING TO DO THAT. OBVIOUSLY THERE WILL BE ONE OFFS WHERE WE NEED TO CHANGE IT SOME YEARS. BUT WHAT TIME ARE YOU THINKING AGAIN? AFTERNOON. SO LUNCH TO 4:00, 5:00. 530 TO.

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