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[I. Call to order]

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CALL TO ORDER THE MEETING OF OCTOBER 12TH, 2026 OF THE NEW ALBANY ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD. CHRISTINE, COULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? MR. HINSON HERE. MR. ITEM MR. BROWN HERE. MR. DAVIES HERE. MR. MALLETT, MISS. MOORE HERE. MR. STROLLER HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER.

DEREK HERE, SUBBING FOR MARLENE. GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN. GOOD TO SEE YOU. WE HAVE FIVE VOTING

[III. Action on minutes: September 14, 2026]

MEMBERS PRESENT. WE HAVE A QUORUM. EXCELLENT. IS THERE ANY ACTION ON THE MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER 14TH, 2026? NO ISSUE. I'LL SECOND. MR. BROWN. YES. MR. DAVIES. YES. MR. HINSON.

YES. MISS. MOORE. YES. MR. STROLLER. ABSTAIN. THE AYES HAVE IT. THE MOTION PASSES WITH FOUR VOTES TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS SUBMITTED. THANK YOU. STAFF, ARE THERE ANY CORRECTIONS OR ADDITIONS TO TONIGHT'S AGENDA? THERE ARE NOT. AWESOME. AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO ADMINISTER THE OATH TO ALL WITNESSES WHO WOULD LIKE TO PLAN TO ADDRESS THE BOARD THIS EVENING. PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ARE THERE ANY VISITORS HERE FOR ITEMS NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA.

[VI. Cases]

SEEING NONE, I'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH THE FIRST CASE, WHICH IS A OR B. FIVE EIGHT, 2026. 11 SOUTH HIGH STREET. EXTERIOR MODIFICATION. THE APPLICANT IS BILL MURPHY. COULD I HAVE A STAFF REPORT, PLEASE? YEAH. GOOD EVENING, BOARD MEMBERS. SO THIS APPLICATION IS FOR EXTERIOR MODIFICATIONS AT 11 SOUTH HIGH. THE SITE IS HIGHLIGHTED HERE IN RED WITH FRONTAGE ALONG SOUTH HIGH STREET AND REAR ACCESS FROM LOCUST ALLEY. JUST ABOUT SOME BACKGROUND. THE SITE WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED BY THE BOARD IN MARCH 2026, WHICH INCLUDE WAIVERS FOR A SWIMMING POOL, A DETACHED GARAGE AND ASSOCIATED EXTERIOR MODIFICATIONS. SINCE THAT APPROVAL, THE APPLICANT PROPERTY OWNER HAS INDICATED THAT THE POOL WILL NO LONGER BE CONSIDERED AT THIS TIME. SO HERE ARE THE PROPOSED. HERE ARE THE ELEVATIONS. SO ON THE LEFT SIDE YOU'LL SEE THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED. AND ON THE RIGHT IS THE CURRENTLY PROPOSED ELEVATIONS. SO THE LEFT INCLUDED AT THE TIME. THIS SECOND STORY BALCONY HERE. THIS DOOR WAS CHANGING FROM A WINDOW. AND THEN THEY WERE INCLUDING THIS WINDOW HERE. AND WITH THIS NEW ADDITION THERE WILL BE THREE FRENCH DOORS. SO THESE FRENCH DOORS WILL BE IDENTICAL TO WHAT'S OUT FRONT ON SOUTH HIGH STREET. IN ADDITION TO AN EXTENSION OF THE SECOND STORY BALCONY, THE CITY ARCHITECT REVIEWED THE DESIGN AND HAD ONE RECOMMENDATION RECOMMENDING THE APPLICANT HAVE THEIR STRUCTURAL ENGINEER REVIEW THE DOOR ADDITIONS DUE TO THE WEIGHT LOAD FROM THE FROM THE STRUCTURE AND IT WAS SORRY IT WAS IN THIS LOCATION HERE. AS YOU CAN SEE IN YOUR REPORT PACKET. SO IN SUMMARY THE ALTERATIONS ARE BEHIND THE EXISTING STRUCTURE AND ARE MINIMAL COMPARED TO THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED DESIGN. MATERIALS BEING PROPOSED ARE COMPLIMENTARY OR MATCH THE EXISTING FEATURES OF THE BUILDING, AND THE ADDITIONS ARE SENSITIVE TO THE EXISTING CHARACTER OF THE BUILDING. SO I'M HERE IN THE APPLICANT IS TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. BILL MURPHY, YOU HAVE A LETTER FROM A TRIPLE A ENGINEERING ABOUT THE LOAD TO WHAT CAN NOT BE DONE OVER THERE ON. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THE LETTER INDICATES THAT WILL BE STEEL MEMBERS FOOT ABOVE THE SHOP WINDOWS OR. EXCUSE ME DOORS. THERE'LL BE TWO OF WELDE.

THREE AND A HALF BY THREE AND A HALF BY A QUARTER AN INCH. WE'LL HAVE AN END, AN ADD A PIECE AT EACH END OF IT TO BEAR ON THE BRICK THAT'S BEYOND THE DOORWAY. AND THE STEEL WILL ALSO BE ARCHED TO MATCH THE CONTOUR OF WHERE THE WINDOWS ARE. JUST ROLL OUT RIGHT THERE NOW SO IT'LL MATCH THE ROLL OUT. IS THERE ANY CHANGE TO THE PROPOSED OUTBUILDING AND OTHER

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SCREENING ON THE PROPERTY? YEAH. SO THEY'RE STILL DOING THE OUTBUILDING WHICH WAS LIKE THE HOUSE. YEAH. GARAGE. GARAGE. YES. BUT WHO'S GOING. THANK YOU.

ANY COMMENTS? CONCERNS FROM THE BOARD. IF WE COULD GO BACK TO THE WEST ELEVATION FOR THE. I WOULD JUST ASK THAT ON THE SPACING ON THE STRUCTURAL BRACKETS. LIKE THERE APPEARS TO BE ABOUT. IS THIS A IS THIS SETBACK OF ENGINEERING THAT TO GET YOU A COPY OF THEIR LETTER ABOUT WHAT THEY DO OR EVEN WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO MORE. SO JUST THE SPACING ON THE BRACKETS. SO IT APPEARS TO BE, SAY, THREE FEET ON THIS SIDE, ONE FOOT ON THAT SIDE, HIS DRAWING. YES. YEAH. SO MAYBE THEY ARE GETTING PERMIT TO HAVE THIS DONE THROUGH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. SO I WOULD JUST ARGUE THAT IT COULD BENEFIT FROM EQUAL SPACING ON THE BRACKETS ON THE ELEVATION. SO WHATEVER IS THE HOWEVER INSIDE IT'S GOING TO BE ON ONE SIDE, MAYBE MATCH IT ON THE OTHER AND THEN AND THEN EQUAL EQUAL SPACING ON THAT. YEAH. IS THAT ANGLED BACK THERE OR DO YOU KNOW HOW THAT WORKS. IT'S THE SAME CONFIGURATION IS ON POINT FIVE ACROSS THE HOUSE THAT THEY HAD BEFORE. SO ONE DID THAT THE SAME TYPE OF UNIT THAT WAS OVER THERE. OKAY. THAT'S BEEN LIGHT YEARS AGO. MR. MURPHY, WHAT'S THIS RIGHT HERE? THAT LINE RIGHT THERE? NO IT'S NOT THAT'S A LINE. SO I THINK THIS ONE SOLID PIECE ALL THE WAY ACROSS.

THERE'S NO I THINK IT'S JUST A IF YOU LOOK AT THIS DRAWING HERE ON THE LEFT SIDE, I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS JUST AN EXTENSION FROM WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY SAME SAME FOOTPRINT, JUST PER SE, BUT JUST BEING EXTENDED TWO DIRECTIONS. SO I THINK IT WOULD BE CLEANED OUT, CLEANED UP IN DRAWING. THIS IS ONE CONSISTENT. YEAH. FACE FACE ALL THE WAY ACROSS. YES, SIR.

OKAY. SO YOU WON'T HAVE TWO PIECES TOGETHER. YEAH. WHAT. OKAY. NO, I CAN SEE IT'S NOT A CAD DRAWING. IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S HAND DRAWN TO FIX IT. SO I'M SURE IT'S JUST SOME LINES. I THINK THE LAYOUT ACTUALLY IMPROVES BACK HERE WITH THOSE DOORS. AND THE STRUCTURAL ENGINEER HAS A PROPER SOLUTION. THE LINTELS HE'S CALLING OUT. SO I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY ISSUES MYSELF. CURIOSITY FOR STAFF, THE SWIMMING POOL. IS THERE A TIME LIMIT ON BUILDING THAT, OR IS IT JUST APPROVAL THAT WE GAVE UNTIL THEY DECIDE TO BUILD THAT, I CAN BE DONE IT ALL. I KNOW, BUT WE WE APPROVE. WE GAVE AN EXCEPTION. CAN IT BE BUILT IN THE FUTURE? SO I BELIEVE OUR APPROVALS LAST FOR ONE YEAR YEAR. OKAY. THANK YOU. CAN YOU REPEAT THAT I. KNOW IT WASN'T INCLUDED IN THAT BUILDING PERMIT. I HAVE NO CONCERNS. CONCERNS? I'LL MAKE A MOTION. I MOVE TO APPROVE A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR APPLICATION A OR B 58 2026 AND ASSOCIATED WAIVERS. I JUST WANT TO MAKE A QUICK COMMENT THAT THERE IS NO WAIVERS FOR THIS APPLICATION. IT WAS A IT WAS A TYPO IN THE IN THE MOTION. THANK YOU. I'LL CORRECT MY MOTION THAT I MOVE TO APPROVE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS APPROPRIATENESS FOR APPLICATION A OR B 58 2026. DO WE WANT TO DOCUMENT THE CONSIDERATION CENTER. CENTER. THOSE COLUMNS, THE SUPPORTS. YEAH. THE SUPPORTS. YEAH. HAVE THE APPLICANT WORK WITH THE. CITY ARCHITECT ON CENTERING THE SPACING ON THE DRAWINGS SUBMITTED TO THEM. YES. THAT

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MIGHT BE YOUR YOUR. YES. WORK WITH STAFF CITY ARCHITECT ON THE APPROPRIATE SPACING ON THE SUPPORTS PLEASE. SECOND. AND SINCE THE CITY ENGINEERS SINCE THE ENGINEER HAS PROVIDED ENGINEERING DOCUMENT, WE NEED TO NOTE THAT I DIDN'T I DIDN'T THINK SO. AS LONG AS THIS IS SO.

AND AND WELL, THIS IS IN IN OUR RECORDS, CORRECT? YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. IS THAT FRANCIS ON THE SECOND? YES. MISTER. HENSON. YES. MR. STRAUSS. YES. MISS. MOORE. YES. MR. DAVY. YES. MR. BROWN YES, THE AYES HAVE IT. THE MOTION PASSES WITH ALL VOTES TO APPROVE THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS. APPROPRIATENESS SUBJECT TO THE CONDITION. THE APPLICANT WORKED WITH THE CITY ARCHITECT ON THE SPACING OF THE SUPPORTS. THANKS, MR. MURPHY. THANK YOU. OUR NEXT OUR NEXT CASE IS A OR B 63, 2026 APOLLO COFFEE SIGNAGE FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS. THE APPLICANT IS JACOB ROVITO. CAN WE HAVE STAFF REPORT, PLEASE? YES. ALL RIGHT. SO AS MENTIONED, THIS IS FOR A NEW SIGN FOR APOLLO COFFEE, WHICH IS LOCATED AT 45 NORTH HIGH STREET, AS OUTLINED HERE. IT'S SOUTH OF THIS SCHOOL CAMPUS AND TO THE EAST OF THE OR SORRY, WEST OF THE UPPER EAST DEVELOPMENT. THE APPLICANT PROPOSES ONE PROJECTING SIGN FOR THE BUILDING AND THE SIGN DOES MEET ALL CODE REQUIREMENTS AND AS SEEN HERE, HAS A BLACK BACKGROUND WITH WHITE LETTERING THAT WILL READ APOLLO COFFEE ESTABLISHED 2025. AND THIS SIGN DOES MATCH OTHER PROJECTING SIGNS WITHIN THE VILLAGE CENTER. I'M LOOKING AT SOME RENDERINGS WITH THE SIGN ON THE BUILDING. IT WILL BE LOCATED ON THE SOUTH END OF THE NORTH HIGH STREET FRONTAGE AT THE BASE OF THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED 88 RAMP, WHICH ISN'T PICTURED HERE. BUT IF ANYBODY DROVE DOWN THAT WAY, PROBABLY SAW THE HOLE IN THE GROUND. THEY STARTED CONSTRUCTION ON THAT. STAFF DID NOTE THAT THE APPLICANT HAS STATED THAT THE CLEARANCE WILL STILL BE MAINTAINED WHEN THAT RAMP IS PUT IN, BUT JUST TO BE SAFE, IF ANYTHING HAPPENS DURING CONSTRUCTION, THE STAFF HAS ASKED FOR A CONDITION OR SORRY, A CONDITION OF APPROVAL THAT IF THAT CLEARANCE CAN'T BE MET, THAT THE SIGN JUST BE MOVED TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ENTRANCE. BUT IN SUMMARY, THE SIGN IS LOCATED IN SIZE TO FIT WITHIN THE DESIGN OF THE STOREFRONT. IT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF SIGN CODE AND IS SIMILAR TO EXISTING SIGNS IN THE VILLAGE CENTER, AND THE PROPOSED LOCATION ENSURES THAT TENANT SPACE IS EASILY IDENTIFIABLE TO PEDESTRIANS AND HELPS IMPROVE THE MOBILITY WITHIN THE VILLAGE CENTER. AND I, AS WELL AS APPLICANT ARE HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. I HAD ONE QUICK QUESTION REGARDING THE ADA RAMP. I KNOW YOU ALREADY CLARIFIED THAT YOU YOU DO NOT SEE A CONFLICT. ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE FOUNDATION PLANTINGS? I DON'T REMEMBER DISTINCTLY AGAINST THE HOW THE THE STRUCTURE AND THEN THE ADA RAMP IS PROUD OF THAT. SO YOU WILL BE AWAY FROM THE HOUSE WITH THE ADA RAMP OR HOW DO YOU HOW ARE YOU COORDINATING THAT? YEAH, THERE IS GOING TO BE A FOUNDATION BOARD FOR THE ADA RAMP. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE CONCRETE, AS WAS DISCUSSED, AND IT IS GOING TO BE POURED. SO THE CONCRETE RAMP WILL BE ATTACHED TO THE HOUSE. IT WILL BE RIGHT NEXT TO THE HOUSE. YEAH, IT'LL BE RIGHT NEXT TO THE HOUSE. IT'LL BE COMING OFF THE LEFT SIDE OF THE FRONT DOOR WITH THE LANDING AND THE BRICK. IT'S GOING TO GO ALL THE WAY TO THE SIDE OF THE TO THE CORNER OF THE HOUSE. YEAH. I BELIEVE FROM THE PREVIOUS STOOP OFF OF THE FRONT DOOR, IT'LL BE 14FT. OKAY. TO THE LEFT. OKAY. AND YOU DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE BOTTOM OF THAT SIGN WILL INTERFERE WITH THE WITH. NO, I, I DON'T BLOW THE DOOR, BUT THE DOOR IS UP, OBVIOUSLY. SO I, YEAH, THE ELEVATION BETWEEN THE LEFT SIDE OF THE HOUSE AND THAT FRONT DOOR IS PRETTY DRASTIC. SO YOU'LL STILL BE QUITE A BIT ABOUT IT. YEAH, I DO BELIEVE SO.

I ALSO BELIEVE THAT THERE'S THAT'S WHERE THE TURNING RADIUS WOULD BE FOR IT. SO IT'D STILL BE RELATIVELY FLAT AT THAT ELEVATION BEFORE THE RAMP ACTUALLY STARTS GETTING ELEVATED. AND I DO BELIEVE THERE'S A RAILING ON THE INSIDE OF THE RAMP AS WELL AGAINST THE HOUSE, SO IT WOULDN'T BE JUST STRAIGHT TO THE HOUSE. OKAY. FOR CLARIFICATION. DO YOU HAVE WHAT WE APPROVED PREVIOUSLY FOR THE RAMP? I DO NOT HAVE IT UP ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW. MADE MODIFICATIONS TO IT, I BELIEVE, SO THAT THERE WAS A WASN'T THERE A RETAINING WALL MOVING

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ACROSS? YES, THERE WAS GOING TO BE. I JUST LOOKED AT THE FINAL VERSION OF IT TODAY. THERE'S GOING TO BE A KNEE HIGH WALL. YEAH. GOING UP. AND THEN THERE'LL BE A WROUGHT IRON RAILING ON THE OUTSIDE RIGHT ON TOP OF THAT. SO IT'LL STILL BE YOU STILL BE ABLE TO SEE THE HOUSE THROUGH IT. OKAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS STILL PART OF THE APPLICATION.

I DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH THE SIGN, OTHERWISE, JUST THAT POTENTIAL INTERFERENCE BEING ADDRESSED. SOUNDS LIKE. YEAH. ANY OTHER COMMENTS COR CONCERN? ALL RIGHT. MOVE FORWARD WITH.

MOVE TO APPROVE THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE APPLICATION A OR B 63 2026 WITH THE CONDITION THAT IF THE SIGN CLEARANCE CANNOT BE MET WITH THE ADDITION OF THE ADA RAMP ON THE NORTH SIDE OR THE SOUTH SIDE SHALL BE MOVED TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE MAIN ENTRANCE TO MEET CODE SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL. I'LL SECOND. MR. HANSEN. YES, MISS MOORE YES.

MR. STROLLER. YES. MR. BROWN. YES. MR. DAVIES YES, THE AYES HAVE IT. THE MOTION PASSES WITH ALL VOTES TO APPROVE THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS, SUBJECT TO THE CONDITION THAT IS ASSIGNED. PARENTS CANNOT BE MET WITH THE ADDITION OF THE ADA RAMP ON THE SOUTH SIDE. THE SIGN SHALL BE MOVED TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE MAIN ENTRANCE TO MEET CODE SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL. THANK YOU. OUR LAST CASE THIS EVENING IS I KNOW OF IS A OR B 64 2026 FOR THE HARVEST PIZZA SIGNAGE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS. THE APPLICANT IS JEFF HAVOC. DO WE HAVE STAFF REPORT PLEASE. YES. SO THIS APPLICATION IS FOR TWO NEW SIGNS AT 24 EAST MAIN STREET FOR THE NEW HARVEST PIZZERIA RESTAURANT. SO THE SITE IS HIGHLIGHTED HERE IN RED AND HAS FRONTAGE ALONG EAST MAIN STREET AND SECOND STREET SOUTH OF THE NEW UPPER EAST DEVELOPMENT. SO THE WALL SIGN IS PROPOSED TO BE AT THE FRONT ENTRANCE ALONG MAIN STREET. THE WALL SIGN ALSO CONSISTS OF A BLACK BACKGROUND WITH WHITE LETTERING AND MEETS ALL WALL SIGN REQUIREMENTS. THE PROJECTING SIGN CONSISTS OF A BLACK BACKGROUND WITH THE BUSINESS LOGO IN TOTAL OF THREE COLOR AND A TOTAL OF THREE COLORS. THE PROJECTING SIGN IS PROPOSED TO BE LOCATED ABOVE THE PLANTER BED ALONG EAST MAIN STREET, AND IS IN THE PREVIOUS LOCATION OF THE PROPOSED OR OF THE PREVIOUS BUSINESS. 24 MAIN STAFF BELIEVES THAT THIS STILL MEETS THE REQUIREMENT FOR SIGN CLEARANCE BECAUSE IT'S ABOVE THE PLANTER AND NOT A PEDESTRIAN WALKWAY. SO IN SUMMARY, THE SIGNS MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE SIGN CODE AND SIMILAR TO EXISTING SIGNS IN THE VILLAGE CENTER, THE SIGNS ARE POSITIONED ON THE BUILDING TO HELP WITH IDENTIFICATION FOR BOTH PEDESTRIANS AND MOTORISTS, AND BOTH SIGNS WILL NOT AFFECT THE ORIGINAL CHARACTER OF THE BUILDING. SO I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. YEAH, I SHOULDN'T IT BE A RELIEF AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THAT SIGN ON THE FACE OF THE BUILDING? SO THE BACKGROUND WILL BE PLACED ON THE ON THE FACE OF THE BUILDING AND THEN THE, I BELIEVE THE LETTERING IS GOING TO HAVE A RELIEF. I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE PERIMETER OF THE BLACK PART OF THE SIGN. ARE YOU SEEING LIKE A SCULPTING TO THAT EDGE OR. THAT'S THE LETTERS I'M TALKING ABOUT THE. TYPICALLY WE LIKE ON. WELL, SOME SCULPTING AROUND THAT. YEAH. JUST INSIDE THE PERIMETER. YEAH. YEAH. THERE'S SOME PINSTRIPING OF SORTS. I'M SORRY SIR. YEAH. RIGHT. NO, I MEAN, ALL OF OUR. A LOT OF THE OTHER SIGNAGE THAT WE HAVE HAS A SCULPTED EDGE AROUND THE PERIMETER, NOT CUTOU, BUT SCULPTED OG PIECE. AM I MISTAKEN? NO. IF YOU IF YOU LOOK DOWN THE ROAD, THERE'S MULTIPLE EXAMPLES OF THAT. BUT TYPICALLY WITH THE LETTERS SPACED OUT. RIGHT. THAT'S ALL DIFFERENT. I AGREE WITH YOU. I

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DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE LETTERS BEING SPACED OUT. I THINK THERE SHOULD BE A SCULPTED EDGE ON THE. I'M JUST ASKING YOU TO MAKE SURE IT'S. MOST OF THOSE ARE ARE ENGRAVED INTO THE SIGN, LIKE THE RELIEF WOULD BE. I JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE A. THAT IT WILL LOOK RIGHT WITH PROJECTING PROJECTED LETTERS AND THEN THE ENGRAVED. AND THERE'S NO LIGHTING ON THIS. THERE'S NO LIGHTING PROPOSED. OKAY. 24 MAIN SIGNS. STAFF BELIEVES WE CAN CONDITION THAT THE THAT THE APPLICANT. ADJUST THE SIGN THE WALL SIGN TO TO MATCH WHAT'S EXISTING IN. LET ME GIVE YOU A SPECIFIC EXAMPLE. ONE SECOND. I'LL PULL IT UP. OKAY. YOU ALMOST NEED TO HAVE A LARGER BACKGROUND INSTEAD OF 8 OR 72. IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT BIGGER BECAUSE THOSE DIMENSIONS MIGHT WORK FOR THE FOR THE LETTER DETAILS AND MORE MORE BEYOND THAT. THE. I THINK THE. SO IF YOU WANT TO ADD RELIEF HERE, YES, THIS IS GOING TO HAVE TO GET A LITTLE BIGGER OR THE LETTERING NEEDS TO GET SMALLER BECAUSE YOU'RE LOOKING AT A COUPLE INCHES OF ADDITIONAL. I JUST WOULD LIKE PERSONALLY, I'D LIKE TO SEE A SCULPTED EDGE ON THE BLACK BACKGROUND. I THINK IT WOULD LOOK NICE. THE PERIMETER WHITE, A WHITE TRIM PIECE. I THINK IT WOULD LOOK GREAT IF IT WERE WHITE. IT COULD ACTUALLY MAKE THE LETTERS A LITTLE SMALLER TO SCALE AT ALL, OR MAKE THE BACKGROUND A LITTLE BIT BIGGER IF IT'S IF IT NEEDS CODE. OKAY, WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE MAXIMUM SIZE THIS SIGN CAN BE? IS THERE FOUR SQUARE FEET MEETS CODE? FOR THE WALL SIGN? GIVE ME ONE SECOND. YES, I REALIZE THESE ARE GREAT.

TO GET THE LETTERS RIGHT. YEAH. ALSO, THE OTHER SIGN IS ALL CAPITAL LETTERS. AND THIS HAS THE H AND THE P ARE LARGER. SO IF YOU WENT TO ALL CAPITAL LETTERS ACROSS THE BOARD, YOU COULD POTENTIALLY CREATE SOME ROOM THERE. I MEAN I LIKE THE UPPERCASE AND LOWERCASE. I IT, I WOULD SAY WORK WITH THE CITY ON IF IT CAN BE THE SIGN COULD BE SLIGHTLY ENLARGED OR THE LETTERS BE SLIGHTLY SMALLER TO ALLOW FOR A WHITE SCULPTED BORDER AROUND THE PERIMETER I SEE WOULD ENHANCE THE SIGN. YEAH. ARE YOU ON THE INSIDE OF THE. IS IT BROWN OR BLACK? BLACK BLACK, BLACK. YEAH. WHAT COLOR IS THIS SIGN HERE? IT'S JUST BLACK AND WHITE. BLACK.

WHITE. NO NO NO NO NO. THERE WOULD BE A IT WOULD BE INCENSE. INCENSE. YEAH. LIKE WHAT IS IT.

BORDER OR WHATEVER ON THE CORNER. YEAH. AND CONDITION THAT LIKE ALL THE OTHER SO MANY OTHER SIGNS LOOK LIKE THAT. YEAH. TWO EAST MAIN STREET HAS THE BLACK WITH THE WHITE TRIM ON THE INSIDE AS A REFERENCE. IF YOU WANT TO USE THAT FOR THE CONDITION TWO WEEKS MAIN STREET.

LET ME PULL THAT UP. YEAH. THE RESERVE ESTHETICS BUILDING RIGHT ACROSS FROM EAGLES PIZZA.

YEAH. MUELLER CONSULTING. WOULD YOU PROPOSE TO PUT IT ON THE HANGING THE BLADE SIGN AS WELL JUST TO BE CONSISTENT. THERE'S ROOM. AT THE BORDER THERE AS WELL. I THINK IT SHOULD BE CONSISTENT I AGREE. YEAH WE DEFINITELY HAVE IT COULD BE LOOK IT COULD BE EITHER INSET OR IT COULD BE ON THE BORDER ON IN THE SCULPT. THE SCULPTED PART ITSELF COULD BE WHITE OR THEY COULD PULL IT IN AN INCH AND IT COULD BE A BORDER AROUND WITH A LITTLE SLIGHTLY SMALLER LETTER. IT COULD I WISH THE GUYS WERE HERE. IN THIS CASE, IT WOULD LOOK A LOT BETTER IF IT WAS INSET BECAUSE OF THE BLACK OF THE WHITE BACKGROUND. THE BUILDING. WELL, HOW SOON ARE THEY OPENING THIS? WHAT'S THEIR TIME? YEAH. SO. HOPEFULLY NEXT MONTH. BUT IT DOESN'T OPEN

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NEXT MONTH, DO YOU THINK? YEAH. OH. ALL RIGHT. SO YOU DO YOU WANT TO DO YOU WANT TO TABLE THIS AND HAVE THE SIGN GUY COME BACK WITH JUST A QUICK UPDATE IN THE MONTH. IT'S NOT LIKE DOESN'T SOUND LIKE IT'S GOING TO AFFECT THE TIMELINE. YEAH. LET'S TABLE IT. WE CAN, WE CAN FIX THE SIGN. ALL RIGHT. I WOULD MOVE TO TABLE A OR B. 6064-2026. CONDITION OF APPROVAL TO RESUBMIT FOR SIGN UPDATES TO ADD A BORDER TO THE PERIMETER AND PERHAPS CHANGE THE SIZE OF THE SIGN. I'LL SECOND. MR. BROWN. YES, MISS. MOORE? YES. MR. YES. MR. STROLLER. YES. MR. HENSON YES, THE AYES HAVE IT. THE MOTION PASSES WITH ALL VOTES TO TABLE THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS, SO THE APPLICANT CAN RESUBMIT THE SIGNS TO ALLOW FOR BORDER MODIFICATIONS AND SIZE MODIFICATIONS. THIS PIECE.

RIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER BUSINESS FOR THIS BOARD? ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM OUR

[VIII. Poll members for comment]

ESTEEMED MEMBERS LOOKING LIKE WE GOT SOME STUFF COMING UP FOR NEXT MONTH GEARING UP WELL THAT'S TRUE. YEAH, POSSIBLY ANOTHER CASE, BUT YEAH, AT LEAST THIS. BUT YEAH, MAYBE ANOTHER CASE. NO MAJOR BUILDINGS. NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF. YEAH. NOT OVER. ALL RIGHT.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN, PLEASE. I'LL SECOND MR. HENSON. YES. MR. BROWN. YES.

MR. STROLLER. YES. MISS. MOORE. YES. MR. DAVIS. YES.

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