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CALL. NOTING THAT THE TIME IS 401. MR. SMITHERS HERE. MR. PAUL HERE, MR. CHAPPELL HERE.
HERE, MR. HARPER HERE. MR. HERSHKOWITZ HERE,ILLMAN, HERE. MR. BENSON HERE, MR. SELLARS. THERE. SIX VOTING MEMBERS PRESENT. WE HAVE A QUORUM. OKAY, FANTASTIC. THE
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NEXT THING THAT WE WILL DO IS CALL FOR A MOTION FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING. I HAVE A CORRECTION. OKAY. ON PAGE TWO, IT SAYS FIRST OR SECOND PARAGRAPH. IT SAYS TODD FERRIS, EP FERRIS AND ASSOCIATES. TODD FERRIS DOES NOT WORK FOR EP ASSOCIATES. I THINK HE'S AN ARCHITECT. HE WORKS FOR FERRIS PLANNING AND DESIGN. YEAH, THAT'S. YEAH. WHY WEREN'T FREE FERRIS ASSOCIATES? DO WE KNOW EACH OTHER? NO. SHOULD I KNOW? OH, THERE YOU GO. YEAH. Y SO JUT DIFFERENT ORGANIZATION. YEAH. WE'LL ELIMINATE EP FERRIS AND ADD THE NAME OF THIS GENTLEMAN'S COMPANY. ARE THERE ANY OTHER CORRECTIONS? NOPE.OKAY. CAN WE GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES WITH THE CORRECTION? I WILL SO MOVE.
PAUL. I'LL SECOND. SECOND. OKAY. MR. PAUL? YES. MR. CHAPPELL. YES. MR. HERSHKOWITZ. YES. MR. HARPER. YES. MR. BILLMAN. YES, THE AYES HAVE IT. THE MOTION PASSES WITH FIVE VOTES TO APPROVE THE MINUTES. YES. FOR ME TO. YOU CAN MAKE THAT. SORRY, MR. SMITHERS. IT'S OKAY. SORRY
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ABOUT THAT. THE MOTION PASSES WITH ALL VOTES TO APPROVE THE MINUTES. OKAY. AND THE NEXT THING WE WANT TO DO IS TAKE A LOOK AT THE AGENDA TO SEE IF THERE ARE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO THIS EVENING'S AGENDA. YES. STAFF WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE OUR NEWEST BOARD MEMBER, KEVIN BENSON. HE IS REPRESENTING NEW ALBANY, AND I'M GOING TO SWEAR HIM IN REAL QUICK. SO IF YOU DON'T MIND ME COMING AROUND. YOU CAN RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND I. SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT I WILL SUPPORT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE STATE OF OHIO.CONSTITUTION AND WILL OBEY THE LAWS THERE WILL OBEY THE LAWS. FURTHERMORE, I WILL. AND ENFORCE THE PROVISIONS OF THE CHARTER IN ORDINANCES FOR. AND ENFORCE THE DECISIONS OF THE CHARTER AND. AND WILL FAITHFULLY DISCHARGE THE DUTIES OF THE ROCKY BOARD. FAITHFULLY DISCHARGE THE DUTIES OF THE CLERK, DISCHARGE THE DUTIES OF. PERFECT AND WELCOME TO THE.
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WELCOME. AND WE ALSO. THERE IS AN ITEM UNDER OTHER BUSINESS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO THE FRONT OF THE AGENDA. CHRIS IS JUST GOING TO GIVE A BRIEF FIVE MINUTE UPDATE. SURE. YES.THANK YOU SO MUCH. GOOD TO SEE SOME OF YOU AGAIN. IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I'VE BEEN IN FRONT OF YOU GUYS. I'M EXCITED TO SHARE THIS UPDATE WITH YOU QUICKER BY CHANCE OR. GREAT. SO WE JUST WANTED TO LET THE BOARD KNOW. I'M SURE YOU GUYS HAVE ALL HEARD THIS IN THE NEWS OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS, BUT THE COMPANY BAYER DID ANNOUNCED A $2.2 BILLION INVESTMENT AND THE NEW ALBANY BUSINESS PARK. IT'S ABOUT 600 NEW JOBS, AND THEY HOPE TO START CONSTRUCTION IN MARCH OF NEXT YEAR, WHICH IS REALLY EXCITING THING FOR OUR COMMUNITY. SO THIS COMPANY WILL ACTUALLY BE LOCATED INSIDE THE ROCKY FORK BLACKLICK ACCORD IMPLEMENTATION PANEL AREA.
THEIR SITE IS LOCATED HERE, IS OUTLINED IN RED. THE MOST OF THE SITE IS ARE MOST OF THE SITE ON THE. THE EAST SIDE OF BABBITT ROAD AND SOUTH PARKWAY IS ALREADY ZONED. YOU. THE BOARD APPROVED A REZONING APPLICATION IN 2025, I BELIEVE, SO THE. THAT PORTION OF THE
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SITE IS ALREADY ZONED TO ALLOW FOR THEM TO START CONSTRUCTION. THERE IS A PENDING ZONING CHANGE APPLICATION THAT WILL BE IN FRONT OF THE ROCKY FORK COURT NEXT MONTH FOR THE BALANCE OF THE GROUND. THIS IS ON THE WEST SIDE OF BABBITT ROAD HERE, GENERALLY OUTLINED IN RED. SO WE WILL BE BRINGING FORWARD THAT ZONING APPLICATION NEXT MONTH. WE WANTED TO GIVE YOU GUYS A HEADS UP AS PART OF THAT ZONING APPLICATION, CITY COUNCIL WILL CONSIDER AMENDING THE STRATEGIC PLAN AS WELL NEXT MONTH DURING ONE OF THEIR MEETINGS, TO PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL STANDARDS AND OUR STRATEGIC PLAN TO HELP GUIDE THAT DEVELOPMENT, AS WELL AS RESPOND TO SOME CONCERNS THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM RESIDENTS IN THE SURROUNDING AREA ABOUT INTENSITY DEVELOPMENT AND THE TYPES OF USES THAT ARE BEING DEVELOPED IN CENTRAL OHIO AT LARGE, REALLY. SO THE THE ZONING TEXT AND THE STRATEGIC PLAN WILL NOT PERMIT DATA CENTERS TO BE DEVELOPED ON THIS GROUND. WE WILL ALSO REQUIRE NOISE STUDIES TO BE CONDUCTED TO ENSURE THAT THERE ARE NOT ANY NEGATIVE IMPACTS ON ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS. WE WILL ALSO USE SOME OF THE REALLY SUCCESSFUL SETBACK IN LANDSCAPE TREATMENT STANDARDS THAT HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED AROUND THE INTEL SITE WILL TAKE THOSE FROM THAT AREA AND APPLY THEM HERE AS WELL, WHICH WILL BE THE MOST SUBSTANTIAL SETBACK ON LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS WE HAVE IN THE ENTIRE CITY. THOSE ARE REALLY EVEN ENHANCED FROM WHAT EXISTED INTEL. THOSE WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN AND THE ZONING TEXT AS WELL. AND THAT CONCLUDES THE UPDATE. JUST WANTED TO GIVE THE BOARD AN UPDATE AND MORE TO LOOK FORWARD TO NEXT MONTH.THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. WELL, WE WE ASSUME THAT EVERYTHING THAT WE HEARD WITH
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THAT UPDATE IS THE WHOLE TRUTH. BUT NOW WE HAVE TO SWEAR IN OUR THE OTHER WITNESSES. SURE. SO ANYONE THAT IS GOING TO BE PRESENTING THIS EVENING, IF YOU CAN COME UP, WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO DO THAT ALL IN ONE FELL SWOOP. WE HAVE TO TAKE AN OATH JUST BEFORE WE DO OUR PRESENTATION. SO IF YOU'RE PLANNING TO SPEAK, JUST COME ON FORWARD. OKAY. IF YOU JUST WOULD RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND REPEAT AFTER ME. DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP YOU GOD? YES. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. AND DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER VISITORS THAT ARE PLANNING TO BE A PART? OKAY. COME. COME ON, COME ON DOWN. WE GOT ROOM FOR FOR MORE SWEARING IN. DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP YOU GOD. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. ARE WE READY TO JUMP[VI. Cases]
INTO THE CASES? OUR FIRST ONE IS Z TEN DASH OH 820 2601. EXCEPTIONAL USE REZONING, AND I ASSUME THAT WE'LL HAVE SOME STAFF START US OFF WITH THAT. GOOD AFTERNOON. BEN COLLINS WITH PLAIN TOWNSHIP. HAPPY TO INTRODUCE THIS CASE FOR THE COURT PANEL. CURRENTLY NO ADDRESS PROVIDED FOR THIS PROPERTY. TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, THAT'S THE PARCEL NUMBER. AND THIS PROPERTY IS LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLN OF BABBITT AND MORRIS ROAD, THE SOUTHEAST QUADRANT OF PLAIN TOWNSHIP. 13.792 ACRES. SURROUNDED MOSTLY BY OPEN FIELDS AND EXISTING RESIDENTIAL USES. YOU CAN SEE THE PROPERTY OUTLINED IN RED. NO DEVELOPMENT ON THE PROPERTY TO OUR KNOWLEDGE. HERE'S ITS LOCATION IN THE ROCKY FORK ACCORD PLANNING AREA. YOU'LL NOTICE DUE NORTH IS THE GOLF CLUB FURTHER NORTH AND EAST OF THE OLD WINDING HOLLOW SITE. THE BALANCE OF THE PROPERTY WITHIN PLAIN TOWNSHIP, WEST OF ABBOTT ROAD, REMAINS SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL AND OPEN FIELDLDLDLN THAT AREA. SO THIS ONE WAS INTERESTING. YOU KNOW, THE ROCKY FORK ACCORD DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE A DEVELOPMENT GUIDELINE FOR PARKLAND ITSELF. WITHIN THIS AREA, THE DESIGNATED USE IS RURAL RESIDENTIAL. AND WE SEE THAT'S COMPATIBLE WITH THE EXISTING USES. BUT WITHIN THE PARK ZONE THERE'S NO EXISTING DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS REALLY TO TO LOOK AT. AND SO IT LEFT US IN A BIT OF A[00:10:05]
QUANDARY. AND HOW DO WE ADDRESS THIS? WE'LL RUN THROUGH THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AND HOW IT FITS WITH THE ACCORD. YOU KNOW, REVIEW SOME OF THOSE GUIDING PRINCIPLES, SOME OF THOSE GOALS AND STRATEGIES. THE PROPOSED REZONING WOULD ALLOW FOR AN OUTDOOR SOCCER FACILITY. SO IN PLAIN TOWNSHIP, THIS IS OUR EXCEPTIONAL USE DISTRICT IN THE GOLF CLUB IS ONE OF THOSE. IT'S ADJACENT TO THE PINE MEADOW SUBDIVISION, IMMEDIATELY TO THE EAST OF THE PROJECT, THERE'S A SMALL STUB STREET DEAD ENDS INTO THE PROPERTY LINE. THERE IS NO REQUEST TO CONNECT TO THAT STREET. THE REZONING WILL ALLOW FOR THE PROPER ZONING CLASSIFICATION TO ALLOW THE REQUESTED USE. PLAIN TOWNSHIP'S LAND USE PLAN PROPOSES CONTINUED EXPANSION OF RECREATION USES THAT PRESERVE THE RURAL ROAD CORRIDOR. SO YOU'LL SEE THIS IS MORE THAN 650FT FROM MORRIS ROAD. AS YOU DRIVE BY, YOU'LL NEVER NOTICE IT'S THERE AS IT SITS. AND WHILE THE OUTDOOR SOCCER FACILITY MAY NOT STRICTLY FALL WITHIN THE ACCORDS RURAL RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, THE USE WILL PRESERVE THE RURAL ROAD CORRIDOR AND OPEN SPACES WHILE PROVIDING RECREATIONAL USES. YOU KNOW, AS THE COMMUNITY CONTINUES TO GROW, THERE'S JUST GENERAL INTEREST IN RECREATIONAL USES. YOU KNOW, THE CITY HAS ADDED PICKLEBALL.WE HAVE A NEW FIELD HOUSE. THERE'S ALWAYS A NEED FOR RECREATIONAL FIELDS. AND, YOU KNOW, THE CITY IS WORKING ON A PLAN TO PROVIDE BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL FIELDS FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. SO IT'S REALLY TOP OF MIND IN THE COMMUNITY. THE ACCORD RURAL RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT IS INTENDED TO INCLUDE LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT WITHIN A CONTEXT OF LARGE OPEN SPACES AND AGRICULTURAL USES. THE PROPOSED USE COMPLIES WITH THE RURAL RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT IN THAT IT MAINTAINS LARGE OPEN SPACES, REDUCES DENSITY AND PRESERVES THE RURAL ROAD CORRIDOR. THE REZONING FROM RURAL TO EXCEPTIONAL USE ALLOWS THE CONTINUED EXPANSION OF RECREATIONAL FACILITIES IN PLAIN TOWNSHIP. THE OUTDOOR SOCCER FACILITY ADDS A SURROUNDING JURISDICTION. YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE LOCAL INTEREST IN SOCCER AT THIS AGE LEVEL. YOU KIND OF ZOOM IN AND SEE HOW THE SITE PLAN LAYS OUT THE PROPOSED USES FOR FULLY SYNTHETIC TURF FIELDS. SO TWO FULL SIZE FIELDS, 200 PLUS PAVED PARKING SPOTS, PLUS SOME OVERFLOW PARKING AREA. YOU KNOW, AS WE THINK ABOUT THESE KINDS OF USES, WE WANT TO PROVIDE ENOUGH PARKING TO MEET DEMAND, BUT NOT OVERPAY WHERE NOT NECESSARY. AND WHILE RECREATIONAL USES ARE NOT A SPECIFIC LAND USE CATEGORY IDENTIFIED IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THEY ARE INTENDED TO BE INTEGRATED T T T T T T T T T T E THERE ARE ADJACENT RESIDENCES IN A SMALL SUBDIVISION, BUT THERE IS NO EXISTING CONNECTIVITY VIA, YOU KNOW, A SIDEWALK OR LEISURE TRAIL OR OTHER ACCESS. THE REZONING IS APPROPRIATE IN THIS CASE IN THAT IT CONSIDERS THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL USES AND OPEN FIELDS, REDUCES DENSITY, AND LIMITS DEVELOPMENT IN THIS CORRIDOR. SOME SPECIFIC AREAS WHERE WE CAN LOOK AT THE ACCORD. ON PAGE 38, IT NOTES THAT COMMUNITY GROWTH CREATES A NEED FOR MORE PARKS AND OPEN SPACE, AND THE PLANNING AREA IS IN NEED OF MORE ACTIVE RECREATIONAL FACILITIES. THE REZONING WILL SERVE THAT GOAL. AND ALSO REMOVES 13 ACRES FROM POTENTIAL FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. ONE OF THE ACCORD'S KEY PRINCIPLES IS TO CREATE A CENTER FOCUS THAT COMBINES CIVIC, CULTURAL AND RECREATIONAL USES, AND THAT BY PROVIDING THESE ADDITIONAL RECREATIONAL FACILITIES, THE PROPOSAL SUPPORTS SOME OF THE ACCORD PRINCIPLES. WHILE NOT ALL. PRINCIPLE ONE MAINTAINING THE ESTHETIC CHARACTER OF RURAL ROADS. PRINCIPLE TWO USES OPEN SPACE AS THE ORGANIZATIONAL ELEMENT. PRINCIPLE THREE CREATES A SUPPLY OF SQUARES, GREENS, PARKS. IN THIS AREA, STORMWATER IS ALWAYS A CONCERN, SO THE APPLICANT IS WORKING WITH AN ENGINEER TO ADDRESS THE STORMWATER NEEDS THE FIELDS
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THEMSELVES. BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT THEY'RE CONSTRUCTED, THEY WILL HAVE THEIR OWN DRAINAGE.THIS WILL ALL FEED TO A RETENTION BASIN. I THINK THE APPLICANT IS STILL WORKING ON HOW THAT WILL BE DELIVERED TO THE EXISTING STORM SYSTEM. RIGHT NOW, THE ONLY AVAILABLE OUTLET IS TO THE DITCH ON MORRIS ROAD. THE PROPOSED OUTDOOR SOCCER FACILITY MEETS THE EXCEPTIONAL USE ZONING DISTRICTS, 25 FOOT SIDE AND REAR YARD REQUIREMENTS, AND THE 600 PLUS SETBACK FROM MORRIS ROAD CONTRIBUTES TO MAINTAINING THE RURAL CHARACTER OF THE CORRIDOR. THE FACILITY MEETS THE LOT COVERAGE REQUIREMENT, WITH JUST OVER 50% OF TOTAL DEVELOPED AREA AT FULL BUILD OUT, INCLUDING PAVED SURFACES, CONCRETE AND THE SYNTHETIC TURF FIELD, ALL WELL BELOW THE ACCORD'S MAXIMUM OF 70%. THE PROPOSAL SUPPORTS SOME OF THE ACCORD'S STRATEGIES. ONE DEVELOPMENT SHOULD BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE RURAL LANDSCAPE. SEVEN THE SCENIC QUALITIES ALONG RURAL ROADS SHOULD BE MAINTAINED. EIGHT RURAL CHARACTER OF THE LAND ALONG THE REGIONAL ROADS SHOULD BE MAINTAINED, AND. 11 FUTURE DEVELOPMENT SHOULD HAVE ADEQUATE FACILITIES SUCH AS PARKLAND, SCHOOLS AND RECREATION. THIS IS THE PROPOSED LINE PLAN FOR THE PROJECT, SO THIS IS A BIT OF AN UPGRADE ON YOUR TRADITIONAL SOCCER FIELD. THERE WILL BE A FENCE THAT SURROUNDS THE FIELD AND NETTING TO TRY TO CONTROL BALL MOVEMENT, TRYING TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR. THE APPLICANT PROPOSES THAT THE LIGHTING WOULD BE UNIDIRECTIONAL. IT'S ONLY GOING TO POINT AWAY FROM THE EXISTING RESIDENCE. THEY'RE WORKING TO CONTROL THE. ILLUMINATION BLEED AND AND YOU CAN SEE THERE THERE IS SOME IMPACT ON SURROUNDING PROPERTIES. THE OTHER THING I'D POINT OUT IS THESE LIGHTS ARE PROPOSED AT, I BELIEVE, 70FT TALL. AND WHILE THAT'S WELL ABOVE THE ACCORD PRINCIPLE OF 30FT, THIS USE IS IS UNIQUE. THE APPLICANT HAS INDICATED THAT THE LIGHTING IS NECESSARY FOR THEIR INTENT TO MAKE IT FUNCTIONAL. YOU KNOW, MORE THAN JUST THE SPRING AND SUMMER SEASON TO TRY TO EXPAND THE USEFUL TIME FRAME FOR THE PROJECT WOULD ALLOW FOR SOME EVENING PRACTICE AND GAMES. THEY HAVE PROPOSED CAPPING THAT LIGHTING AT 10 P.M. AND THAT WOULD COMPLY WITH THE ACCORD REQUIREMENT OF CUTTING OFF LIGHTING BY 11 P.M. AS FAR AS DENSITY. THE ATHLETIC TURF FIELDS EQUATE TO 13,954FTā !S PER ACRE. AND IF WE LOOK AT THE OFFICE DISTRICT THAT ALLOWS 10,000FTā !S PER ACRE, WITH A BONUS OF 12,000. AGAIN, IT'S HARD TO FIT THIS PARTICULAR USE INTO ONE OF THE ACCORD AREAS.
POSITIVES THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL STRUCTURES OR DENSITY, BUT WE STRUGGLE WITH HOW DO WE TREAT THESE SYNTHETIC FIELDS, WHICH YA DEVELOPMENT IMPROVEMENT THAT IS GOING TO BE IMPERVIOUS. THAT'S ALL THAT STAFF HAD AT THIS TIME. I KNOW THE THE APPLICANT IS HERE TODAY AND I'M SURE WOULD LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE COURT AS WELL. SURE. WE YOU WANT TO ASK YOUR QUESTION FIRST.
THAT'D BE PERFECT. I THINK THIS SLIDE ACTUALLY MAY BE A GOOD, GOOD ONE TO ASK MY QUESTION CONCERNING. I SEE A LONG STRIP OF WHAT LOOKED LIKE MATURE TREES ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF THE SCREEN. I SEE OBVIOUSLY TREES. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. AND TREES THAT ARE CLEARLY GOING TO COME DOWN BECAUSE THEY'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FIELD, I THINK. IS THAT RIGHT? YES, YES.
I DON'T SEE ANYTHING IN TERMS OF IN IN COLUMBUS, WHEN YOU BUILD A LARGE PARKING LOT, YOU NEED TO HAVE ISLANDS AND TREES. WE'RE TRYING TO MAINTAIN THE TREE CANOPY. I'M NOT SEEING ANYTHING HERE THAT REFLECTS A SIMILAR REQUIREMENT OR PROPOSAL. THERE MAY NOT BE A REQUIREMENT IN THIS CODE, BUT I WONDERED, FIRST OF ALL, WILL THOSE MATURE TREES ON. IS THAT THE WEST SIDE OF THE SITE BE PROTECTED SIDE, EAST SIDE? OKAY. WILL THOSE BE PROTECTED IN SOME FASHION? THE BOTTOM IS THE WEST SIDE. OKAY. GOTCHA. OKAY. THOSE THOSE ARE GOING TO REMAIN THERE. THEY ARE.
THEY'RE STILL AND IN FACT, THERE ARE MATURE TREES ALONG THE ENTIRE BORDER. AND SO AT
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LEAST I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW MANY FEET, BUT SOME FOOTAGE OF MATURE TREES WILL REMAIN ALONG THE ENTIRE BORDER. THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT ALSO SUGGESTS YOU CAN SEE A PRIVACY FENCE THERE ALONG THE EAST SIDE. YOU HAVE THE TOP RIGHT THERE. YEAH. SO WHAT WE WERE THINKING IS MAYBE A MOUND, A PRIVACY FENCE, SOME SCREENING TREES, NOTHING, YOU KNOW, HUGE, BUT SOMETHING TO AT LEAST BLOCK AND SHIELD SOME OF THE HEADLIGHTS, YOU KNOW, FOR INSTANCE, FOR THE PARKING LOT, CARS COMING AND GOING. EXCUSE ME, COULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD? SURE. JACOB OSWALD OKAY. JUST MAKING SURE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ARE THOSE TREES ON THE WEST SIDE ACTUALLY ON YOUR PARCEL, OR ARE THEY ADJACENT TO YOUR PARCEL OR COMBINATION? COMBINATION. OKAY.AND THAT'S WHAT THE TREES ON THE EAST SIDE. OKAY. AND WE DON'T YET KNOW OF THE EVENTUAL DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL TAKE PLACE TO THE WEST OF THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL. IS THAT NOT AT THIS TIME? OKAY. AND THEN THERE ARE SOME ADDITIONAL SCREENING TREES PROPOSED ALONG THE EAST SIDE TO KIND OF SUPPLEMENT SCREENING THE PARKING AREA. OKAY. THANK YOU.
I THINK THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION. OKAY. AND WE CAN GO AHEAD INTO YOUR PRESENTATION.
SURE. DIDN'T PREPARE FORMAL PRESENTATION, WASN'T REALLY SURE WHAT THE FORMAT OF THIS WOULD BE, BUT I'M HAPPY TO JUST SAY A FEW WORDS ABOUT THE PROJECT. SO, JACOB OSBORNE, I'VE BEEN IN NEW ALBANY RESIDENT TEN YEARS, FIVE KIDS, MANY OF WHOM PLAY SOCCER. MY OLDEST IS 11 NOW. AND AS WE'VE LEARNED IN THE LAST FEW YEARS IN NEW ALBANY, THERE IS A SHORTAGE OF TURF SOCCER FIELDS. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT, I WOULD SAY, MORE ELITE CLUB ORGANIZATIONS LIKE SPORTING COLUMBUS, KING'S HAMMER CLUB, OHIO AND A LOT OF THE CLUBS IN THE NEW ALBANY TEAMS END UP PRACTICING AT THOMPSON PARK AND BETTELHEIM. AND WHAT WE HAD FOUND, YOU KNOW, IN THE PAST FEW YEARS, AS THE KIDS GET OLDER, THE TIME ON THE TURF FIELD IS MORE AND MORE IMPORTANT BECAUSE THEY'RE PLAYING THEIR GAMES ON THE TURF, ON THE TURF SURFACE. AND, YOU KNOW, EVEN FOR MY 11 YEAR OLD, A LOT OF OUR LEAGUE GAMES ARE CLEVELAND, INDIANAPOLIS, CINCINNATI, REALLY ALL OVER FOR REALLY THE TOP COMPETITION. AND NEW ALBANY'S A SOCCER TOWN. I MEAN, WE HAVE A STATE CHAMPIONSHIP HIGH SCHOOL TEAM. WE'VE GOT A LOT OF REALLY TALENTED SOCCER PLAYERS, AND THE COLLECTIVE PARENTS IN NEW ALBANY ARE TRAVELING ALL OVER THE CITY, TAKING THEIR KIDS TO DIFFERENT TURF FIELDS TO GET FIELD TIME WITH THEIR CLUBS, WHICH ARE GENERALLY THE TOP LEVEL OF TALENT. AND SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A TURF SHORTAGE WITH THE HIGH SCHOOLS AND, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE SEEN SOME OF THAT, BUT THERE'S DEFINITELY TURF SHORTAGE WITH WITH THE CLUBS TOO. AND THERE'S JUST NOTHING SUPER CLOSE. SO I FIND MYSELF EVERY WEEK, YOU KNOW, IN THE CAR FOR HOURS DRIVING KIDS TO OTHER TURF FIELDS. AND SOMEHOW IT FELT LIKE IT WOULD BE EASIER TO BUY A PROPERTY AND TRY TO DEVELOP A FIELD FOR ONE THAT I THOUGHT WOULD BE VERY SUITABLE D HOURS IN THE CAR. SO THAT THAT WAS MY STARTING GOAL HERE. IT'S REALLY TO GIVE A LOT OF THE KIDS IN NEW ALBANY THE OPPORTUNITY THAT THAT I THINK THEY SHOULD DESERVE TO HAVE TOP TRAINING FACILITIES, USUALLY IN IN THE SPRING, I'D SAY ABOUT HALF OF OUR PRACTICES ARE CANCELED WITH THE WEATHER, BOTH AT THOMPSON PARK OR BEVILLE HEIMER. THEY GET REALLY WET THIS FALL. IT WAS UNUSUALLY RAINY. AND IN FACT, HALF OF THE SOCCER PRACTICES WERE EITHER CANCELED OR MOVED TO FURTHER AWAY. YOU DON'T HAVE THAT ISSUE AS MUCH WITH THE TURF SPACE.
THAT'S WHY TURF IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR ELITE SOCCER TRAINING. I BELIEVE I WOULD BE ABLE TO JUST BUILD SOCCER FIELDS WITHOUT HAVING IT REZONED. I BELIEVE THE THE CURRENT RULE PERMITS PARKS, AND I THINK IT'S THE ARTIFICIAL TURF THAT REQUIRES EXCEPTIONAL , BECAUSE THAT IS CONSIDERED AN ATHLETIC FIELD. IN ANY EVENT, MY MY SENSE WAS IT'S NOT A ZONING CHANGE BECAUSE I'M BASICALLY JUST BUILDING TURF WHERE I COULD OTHERWISE BUILD GRASS. AS LONG AS IT'S PROPERLY ENGINEERED, AS LONG AS, YOU KNOW, ALL THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS ARE ADDRESSED, THE WATER MANAGEMENT ISSUES AND OF COURSE, MINIMAL IMPACT ON THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS. SO I MADE THAT MY FOCUS FROM THE BEGINNING. I SPENT HOURS
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SPEAKING TO KNOCKING ON DOORS AND SPEAKING TO RESIDENTS AND PROPOSING THE IDEA. I TWEAKED MY DESIGN BASED ON FEEDBACK I'VE GOTTEN. IN FACT, I'VE RUN INTO SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS ON PINE MEADOW HERE TODAY. AND YOU KNOW, I HAVEN'T HAD MUCH, IF ANY, PUSHBACK ON THE PROJECT AS A WHOLE FROM THE NEIGHBORS FOLKS OVERALL SEEING OVER, OVERY SUPPORTIVE. THERE'S A LOT OF WORSE USES FOR 14 ACRE LOT IN THIS PART OF THE CITY THAN A SOCCER FIELD. I'VE DONE MY BEST WITH THE DESIGN TO TRY TO MINIMIZE THE IMPACT, FOR EXAMPLE. I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF EXAMPLES OF THAT. ONE EXAMPLE IS THE LIGHTING, THE ORIGINAL LIGHTING PLANS THAT WERE PROPOSED TO ME WERE THE NORM. THEY WERE A CERTAIN HEIGHT OF THE POLES, A CERTAIN BRIGHTNESS, SOMETHING THAT I'VE ACTUALLY SEEN IMPLEMENTED, YOU KNOW, IN COLUMBUS AND CINCINNATI AT OTHER PROPERTIES WHERE THERE ARE RESIDENTIAL HOUSES JUST AS CLOSE AS THIS ONE. BUT I DIDN'T TAKE THAT OPTION. I DON'T BELIEVE THE, THE SIZE OF THE OF THE LIGHTS ARE 70FT. I BELIEVE THEY'RE EITHER 30 OR 40, THE ONE THAT I'VE PROPOSED. SO I BASICALLY DROPPED IT DOWN MUCH LOWER. I PROPOSED FEWER LIGHTS AND I PROPOSED LIGHTS ONLY AIMING ONE DIRECTION, EVEN THOUGH IT DOESN'T EQUALLY LIGHT THE FIELD. I THINK IT'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR TRAINING AND IT'S DESIGNED TO HAVE, I THINK, POINT ONE. SORRY TO CLOSE THERE. SORRY ABOUT THAT. IT'S DESIGNED TO HAVE POINT ONE FOOT CANDLES AT THE PROPERTY BORDER AND ZERO FOOT CANDLES AT THE ACTUAL NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES, WHICH BASICALLY IS WELL WITHIN WHAT ALL THE OTHER LIKE EVERYTHING THAT I FIND, SAY YOU CAN GET UP TO POINT 3 OR 4 OR SOMETHING AND STILL GET IT APPROVED. SO I FEEL LIKE I'VE GONE OUT OF MY WAY TO REALLY TRY TO MINIMIZE THE IMPACT HERE. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T CONNECT THROUGH BECAUSE I DON'T WANT OVERFLOW PARKING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I WANT TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR. I, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, PUT THE PRIVACY FENCE TO SHIELD THE LIGHTS. I WANTED TO PUT PLENTY OF PARKING SO THAT THERE ISN'T A CONCERN ABOUT O O O O O O O O O O O O OD THAT'S WHY I'VE GOT THE WHOLE AREA TO THE SOUTH, WHICH IS THE RIGHT. THAT'S AN OPEN GRASS FIELD FOR OVER FOR PARKING TO IN ADDITION TO PLENTY OF WHAT I THINK WILL BE PLENTY OF SPACES. WHAT ELSE? IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE I CAN. YEAH, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND OPEN IT UP TO THE PANEL FOR QUESTIONS. I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. ONE, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO DEAL WITH FACILITIES IN TERMS OF RESTROOMS, PORTA POTTIES? I WOULD SAY THE MAJORITY OF ARTIFICIAL TURF TRAINING CENTERS WHERE MY KIDS PRACTICE TODAY, THERE ARE PORTA POTTIES. SOME OF THE NEWER, NICER ONES HAVE INDOOR RESTROOMS, BUT EVEN THOSE ARE SOMETIMES LOCKED. SO YEAH, WE DON'T IT DOESN'T HAVE SEWAGE OR SEPTIC. SO I WAS GOING TO HANDLE HANDLE IT WITH PORTA POTTIES, WHICH I THINK IS REASONABLE AND ACCEPT THAT IN THE SOCCER FIELD. ONE OF MY INITIAL CONCERNS HEARING ABOUT THE LIGHTING WAS 70 FOOT POLES. I WAS GLAD TO HEAR YOU SAY THAT. THOSE ARE, I THINK IT'S 30FT OR 40. IT'S NOT. IT'S CERTAINLY NOT 70, BECAUSE IT DOES LOOK LIKE IT'S BLEED OVER TO THAT.SO AT THE TOP OF THIS ON THE LEFT, IT LISTS THE HEIGHT OKAY.S 30. SO SOMETHING TO CLARIFY.
YEAH, I CAN FOLLOW UP ON THAT. BUT 70 SHOCKED ME. I DON'T THINK THAT'S IT. THANK YOU.
I'LL DOUBLE CHECK. YEAH, BUT WE WENT WITH THE SMALLEST POSSIBLE SIZE. I JUST REMEMBER THAT.
YEAH. MIKE SCHEFFLER I HAVE A QUESTION. SO YOU'RE NOT SHOWING ANY KIND OF BUILDINGS HERE.
WHAT ARE YOU DOING AS FAR AS MAINTENANCE EQUIPMENT AND STUFF LIKE THAT. NO BUILDINGS, MAINTENANCE EQUIPMENT LIKE WELL TO TO MOW THE GRASS THAT ISN'T TURF ORNY KIND OF REPAIRS THAT YOU'D NEED FOR THE TURF OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. MOST PLACES WHEN YOU HAVE A NUMBER OF FIELDS, YOU HAVE A CENTRALLY LOCATED STORAGE SHED OR SOMETHING. YEAH. AND THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHY I WAS WONDERING ABOUT THAT. OKAY. WELL, OVERALL, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT ARTIFICIAL TURF FIELDS ARE PRETTY REQUIRE PRETTY MINIMAL MAINTENANCE. I HAVEN'T THOUGHT AS FAR AHEAD AS MOWING THE GRASS, BUT MAYBE I HIRE SOMEBODY TO DO THAT, I DON'T KNOW. OKAY. ANOTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS WHO EXACTLY WILL BE USING THESE FIELDS? WILL IT BE JUST CLUBS THAT YOU CHOOSE TO COME IN TO USE IT? AND COUPLE COUPLED WITH THAT QUESTION, OR
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IS THIS GOING TO BE A GATED SITUATION WHERE IT'S CLOSED TO THE PUBLIC BECAUSE YOU'RE JUST LETTING YOUR YOUR PRIVATE CLUBS COME IN, SO IT'S CLOSED TO THE PUBLIC. SO BUT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE GATES ON IT. AND IF SO, HOW WHAT, HOW MANY HOURS A DAY ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE IT AVAILABLE FOR THE CLUBS? SURE. YOU KNOW, TO BE HONEST WITH YOUY WILL COME. AND I'VE TALKED TO SOME OF THE CLUBS AND I KNOW THERE'S WIDESPREAD INTEREST. I BELIEVE ONE CLUB WOULD PROBABLY LIKE TO JUST TAKE THEM BOTH AND JUST RUN WITH IT, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE IF THEY'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO DO THAT. IT COULD BE THAT IT'S A MIX OF LIKE CLUB OHIO, KING'S HAMMER, SPORTING COLUMBUS. I HONESTLY HAVEN'T GOTTEN THAT FAR DOWN THE PATH YET. MY GOAL IS TO SHOW THAT IT CAN BE DONE AND THEN AND THEN DO IT. MAYBE I'LL, YOU KNOW, HAVE ONE THAT I RENT OUT TO OTHER CLUBS, AND THEN I'LL JUST RENT ONE OUT TO ONE CLUB AND IT CAN BE THEIR FIELD.AND THEN I HAVE THE OTHER ONE I RENT OUT TO OTHER CLUBS. I HAVE A BUDDY WHO DID THE SAME THING, AND UP NORTH IN OLENTANGY, SO HE'S HELPING ME A LITTLE BIT. BUT YEAH, I'M NOT THAT DEEP IN THE WEEDS ON. AND ONE LAST QUESTION, AND I DO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF CONCERN ABOUT NOISE. WITH THE THE HOMES THERE ON PINE VIEW. BECAUSE I'VE BEEN TO SOCCER GAMES BEFORE AND THEY CAN GET RATHER BOISTEROUS. SO I, I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE NOISE THERE AND ALSO THE PROPERTY JUST TO THE WEST, YOU HAVE YOUR LIGHTS DIRECTED THAT DIRECTION, BUT DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT'S BEING PLANNED FOR THAT AREA THERE AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THE LIGHTS GOING THAT DIRECTION WOULD HAVE ANY BLOWBACK ON THEM, THAT WOULD BE A PROBLEM. OR TO THE NORTH. I HAVE A DECENT IDEA. I MEAN, I KNOCKED ON THE DOOR AND TALKED TO THE OWNER, THE PROPERTY TO THE WEST, CORRECT? YEAH. HE SAID HE DOESN'T MIND THE FIELDS AT ALL. AND HE HE'S FINE WITH THEM AND THE LIGHTS. HE ALSO SAID BECAUSE I OFFERED TO MAYBE TRY TO BUY SOME OF THAT, SOME OF HIS PROPERTY. HE SAID HE HAD NO INTEREST IN SELLING. HE LIKES TO MOW IT. SO HE'S JUST INTERESTED IN MOWING IT, THAT'S ALL. MAYBE HE CAN MOW YOURS. I TOLD HIM I COULD BUY IT AND LET HIM KNOW IT, BUT NOT INTERESTED IN THAT. SO YEAH, HE HE DIDN'T SEEM TO HAVE ANY CONCERNS. AND THE TREES ARE PRETTY DENSE. I MEAN, HE'S NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO SEE MUCH LIGHT. IT'S DIRECTED SHIELDED LIGHT. I WAS TOLD THAT THE IT'S GOING TO BE ABOUT THE SAME AS THE MOON FOR THE HOUSES THAT ARE THE CLOSEST. IT'LL BE ABOUT THE SAME AS THE MOON, NOT ON A FULL MOON, JUST ON A REGULAR NIGHT. IT'LL BE LIKE MOONLIGHT. SO IT'S PROBABLY NOT GOING TO ADD AT ALL TO THE LIGHT. IT'S 0.1FT CANDLES. AND BY THE WAY, THOSE CALCULATIONS WERE WITHOUT THE PRIVACY FENCE AND WITHOUT THE TALL TREES. THAT WAS JUST AS IF IT WERE WIDE OPEN. I THINK IT'S ADVANCEMENTS IN THE LIGHTING AND THE SHIELDING THAT SUPPORT THE DOCUMENTATION. AGAIN, I'M RELYING A LOT ON THE ENGINE, THE LIGHTING ENGINEERS FOR THAT, BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M TOLD. I ALSO SEE IT THOUGH, LIKE I GO TO OTHER SOCCER FIELD HERE, FIELD THERE, NOTHING IN BETWEEN LIGHTS RIGHT THERE. DID YOU MAKE ANY ATTEMPT TO SEND A MAILING OR ANYTHING TO THE RESIDENTS THERE ON THE STREET? YEAH, I KNOCKED ON DOORS AND I PASSED OUT CARDS. OKAY. AND THEN I GOT I DID ACTUALLY GET, I THINK, A CALL OR TWO FROM DOING THAT. SOME, LIKE THE PEOPLE THAT I TALKED TO, TALKED TO THE OTHER NEIGHBORS THAT WEREN'T THERE, NOT EVERYBODY WAS THERE. I DIDN'T TALK TO EVERYBODY, BUT I MADE MAYBE 5 OR 6 DIFFERENT TIMES. I MADE EFFORTS TO GO AND TALK TO EVERYBODY, AND I TALKED TO QUITE A FEW PEOPLE, I WOULD SAY AT LEAST HALF. SOME PEOPLE JUST WEREN'T HOME. I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANYTHING. ONE OTHER QUESTION I HAD WAS WITH THE GATE. I HADN'T THOUGHT ABOUT THE GATE YET, BUT IT IS GOING TO BE A PRIVATE PROPERTY FOR THE ELITE SOCCER CLUBS TO TRAIN.
SO IT YOU KNOW, MAYBE THERE WILL BE TIMES WHEN I'D MAKE IT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, BUT THAT'S NOT THE POINT OF IT. SO THERE WON'T BE ANY LOCAL TEAMS PLAYING THERE THEN? YEAH, LIKE NEW ALBANY, SPORTING COLUMBUS, THE TEAMS THAT PLAY IT AT THOMPSON PARK RIGHT NOW WILL PLAY. AND IT'S NOT NECESSARILY I MEAN, YOU CALL IT ALBANY SPORTING COLUMBUS, BUT THEY YOU KNOW, THEY FIELD KIDS FROM AROUND THE CITY. BUT I WOULD SAY MORE THAN HALF ARE NEW ALBANY KIDS. SAME THING WITH KINGS HAMMER. HALF OF THE KIDS ARE NEW ALBANY KIDS. THIS MAY NOT BE, STRICTLY SPEAKING, A ZONING QUESTION, BUT BEAR WITH ME IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE
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ANSWERING THE QUESTION. BUT IT GOES TO THE QUESTION OF HOW THIS IS SUSTAINABLE. AND THAT IS JUST SORT OF UNDERSTANDING YOUR FISCAL MODEL FOR THIS PROJECT. WILL YOU BE EARNING MONEY FROM THE CLUBS? WILL THEY BE PAYING YOU FOR THE USE OF THE FACILITY? I ASSUME THAT'S WHERE YOUR REVENUE WOULD COME FROM TO MAKE THIS SUSTAINABLE. IS THAT RIGHT? YEAH. THAT'S RIGHT. AND I'M NOT A TOTAL EXPERT, BUT I GOT MY BUDDY WHO HAS THE SAME THING, RIGHT? SO ACCORDING TO HIM, THESE SOCCER FIELDS, ONCE THEY'RE BUILT, RENT OUT FOR SOMEWHERE IN THE $200,000 PER FIELD PER YEAR. ACCORDING TO HIM, I BOUGHT THE PROPERTY FOR $1 MILLION. I HAVE ANOTHER COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND INTO IT. I CAN SELF-FUND THE BUILDING OF THE FIELD MYSELF IF I NEED TO. PROBABLY ANOTHER 3 TO $4 MILLION TO BUILD THEM. I WOULD MAKE THAT INVESTMENT MYSELF BECAUSE I THINK THE ECONOMICS WOULD WORK. BUT I DON'T THINK ANYBODY'S GETTING RICH WITH THIS IDEA. THAT'S NOT WHY I'M DOING IT. I'M DOING IT BECAUSE WE NEED THESE SOCCER FIELDS IN NEW ALBANY. AND FRANKLY, IF I FIND SOMEONE ONE OF THESE CLUBS OR TWO OF THESE CLUBS THAT WANT TO JUST GO AHEAD AND PUT THE INVESTMENT IN THEMSELVES AND BUILD THE FIELD OUT ON THE LAND NOW, YOU KNOW, BUT I DON'T THINK ANYBODY'S WILLING TO TAKE THAT CHANCE UNTIL THEY GET THROUGH ZONING. AND THAT'S WHAT I'M WILLING TO DO, WHAT I THINK NEEDS TO BE DONE. THANK YOU FOR ENTERTAINING THE QUESTION. AGAIN, NOT STRICTLY ZONING, BUT IT'S OF INTEREST. I THINK JUST I THINK I COULD MAKE IT VERY LIKE DECENTLY PROFITABLE. YEAH.THANK YOU. I HAVE A COUPLE OF CLARIFYING QUESTIONS AND I'LL JUST GO AHEAD AND ASK MY QUESTIONS. I THINK YOU COULD HEAR THEM AND THEN RESPOND. SO THE FIRST ONE HAS TO DO WITH THE HOURS OF OPERATION YOU EXPECT. AND THE SECOND CLARIFICATION QUESTION, I THINK THAT HOURS WERE MENTIONED EARLIER. BUT JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THE SECOND CLARIFICATION QUESTION, IS THIS GOING TO BE FOR TRAINING OR FOR ACTUAL COMPETITION? MEANING ARE THEY GOING TO BE PRACTICING THERE OR ARE THERE GOING TO BE GAMES GOING ON? SO JUST WANT TO HELP UNDERSTAND THAT. GOOD QUESTIONS. MY EXPECTATION THAT THESE CLUBS WILL BE, WILL BE OR SORRY, THESE FIELDS WILL BE USED BY CLUBS THE SAME WAY THAT THEY'RE UTILIZING EXISTING SPACES. AND WHAT THAT TYPICALLY INVOLVES IS DURING THE WEEKDAYS, IT'S TRAINING SESSIONS AND IT'S USUALLY EMPTY UNTIL SOMETIME AFTER SCHOOL AND THEN FIVE, 530 AND THEN PROBABLY DONE 839, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THE LIGHTING IS KEY. THIS PROJECT ISN'T WORTH DOING IF WE CAN'T HAVE LIGHTING, BECAUSE IN IN OHIO, IT GETS DARK VERY EARLY IN THE WINTER AND YOU CAN TRAIN OUTDOOR ON TURF FIELD IN THE 30S AND SOME, SOME TEAMS TRAINING THE 2020 DEGREE. SO WE LOSE A TON OF OUTDOOR TRAINING HOURS IN OHIO. SO EVERYBODY ENDS UP INDOOR RESIDUE, YOU KNOW, BATTLING FOR A LITTLE TINY SPACE WHERE THEY'RE NOT GETTING A GOOD TRAINING. SO THAT'S WHY THE TURF FIELDS ARE SO IMPORTANT. NOW, I DO EXPECT THAT THERE WOULD BE WEEKEND GAMES FOR SURE. THAT'S HOW AGAIN, HOW THE CLUBS TEND TO USE THESE FIELDS CURRENTLY.
OKAY. AND THEN WITH THE COMPETITION, DO YOU ANTICIPATE THERE'LL BE OTHER THINGS LIKE CONCESSIONS OR BLEACHERS OR ANY OTHER THINGS THAT YOU MIGHT SEE AT A COMPETITIVE SITE? DEFINITELY NO BLEACHERS. I'VE MADE THAT DECISION ALREADY. OKAY. PARENTS BRING THEIR CHAIRS AND THEY'RE USED TO DOING THAT AT THESE TYPE OF EVENTS. I DON'T HAVE ANY PLANS FOR CONCESSIONS. NO, I DON'T AGAIN, I'M NOT TRYING TO MAKE A BUSINESS OUT OF THIS REALLY.
I'M JUST TRYING TO GET SOME TURF PRACTICE SPACE FOR THE KIDS. OKAY. BUT MAYBE THE CLUBS WOULD HAVE A YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES YOU SEE LIKE A SNOW CONE TRUCK COME OR SOMETHING. I DON'T I COULD I COULD DEFINITELY SEE THAT. YEAH, I, I LIVE LIKE ALMOST NEXT TO THOMPSON. SO I HAVE A SENSE FOR WHAT THAT IS. AND I, I, I FOLLOW ALONG, I'M JUST TRYING TO GET MY HEAD. IS THIS WHAT I'M USED TO OR IS IT DIFFERENT? SO I THINK IT'S WHAT YOU'RE USED TO. OKAY. RIGHT NOW, THE KIDS THAT ARE TRAINING AT THOMPSON ARE THE KIDS WHO WILL BE TRAINING HERE. OKAY. SO IT'LL BE QUIETER. IT'LL BE QUIETER. OKAY. I DON'T KNOW, ALTHOUGH I LIVE PRETTY CLOSE TO THOMPSON, TOO. OKAY. AND WE CAN HEAR THE NOISE AT THOMPSON.
YEAH. IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, I DESCRIBE IT LIKE IT DOESN'T REALLY BOTHER ME. IT'S KIDS PLAYING AND IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL. IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL. AND I KNOW THAT I'M PARTICULARLY SENSITIVE TO THIS ISSUE FOR PINE MEADOW BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, THE FEEDBACK THAT I DO GET WHEN I TALK TO THE NEIGHBORS IS ABOUT THE DATA CENTERS AND THE NOISE THEY'RE DEALING WITH WITH THAT.
SO I THINK PEOPLE ARE LIKE, YEAH, SOCCER FIELD, YOU KNOW, OKAY, DO WE HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS? I HAVE A FOLLOW UP AND IT'S ABOUT THE LIGHTING TOO. MAYBE MORE OF A QUESTION FOR
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BEN. BEN, I COULD NOT READ THE PHOTOMETRICS FROM THAT DISTANCE, BUT BUT IT LOOKED LIKE THERE WAS SOME BLEED TO THE WESTERN PROPERTY. ARE THERE STANDARDS IN THE PLAIN TOWNSHIP ZONING CODE NOW THAT MIGHT REQUIRE A VARIANCE FOR THAT? THEY'LL NEED TO BE ABLE TO SHOW WITH FURTHER ENGINEERING THAT THEY'RE NOT CASTING LIGHT ONTO THE ADJACENT PARCELS, WHICH I THINK THEY CAN PROBABLY MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO DO THAT. I WOULD JUST NOTE THAT EVEN IF THE LIGHT IS NOT CASTING DIRECTLY ONTO ADJACENT PROPERTY, YOU'RE STILL GOING TO SEE THE LIGHT. LIKE THAT MOOD EFFECT, YOU'LL STILL SEE ILLUMINATION. YES. THANK YOU. AND ALL THE CALCULATIONS SHOWN DO NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE LARGE TREES THAT ARE THERE THAT ARE PRETTY DENSE. CAN WE GET THROUGH THEM? I CAN'T WALK THROUGH THOSE TREES. THANK YOU. I'M GLAD. THIS IS ONE FOR BEN.SINCE THE ACCESS TO THE SUBDIVISION TO THE EAST IS NO LONGER REQUIRED. BUT WE WANT THIS DEVELOPER TO VACATE THAT RIGHT AWAY AND REMOVE THE CONNECTION FOREVER. IS THAT A CONCERN AT ALL OR JUST DOESN'T MATTER? YOU KNOW, I DON'T RECALL IN THE ORIGINAL PLAT IF THAT STREET GOES TO THE THE PROPERTY LINE, THE RIGHT OF WAY DOES NOT. LIKE THE THE HIGHWAY EASEMENT. RIGHT. I THINK THEY HAVE. JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER FOR THE NEIGHBORS TO THE EAST MOUNDS OFTEN. AFFECT DRAINAGE, AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S ALL ENGINEERED CORRECTLY. IF WE DECIDE TO GO WITH A LANDSCAPED MOUND ON THE EAST SIDE AND MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T BLOCK DRAINAGE OR. YEAH, I THINK DRAINAGE IS A BIG QUESTION FOR A LOT OF THIS PROJECT. I KNOW THAT THERE'S A A BASIN RIGHT THERE, RIGHT WHERE THAT PROPERTY IS TO THE EAST. THERE'S ALSO ONE ON MY PROPERTY TO THE NORTH, AND I'M TRYING TO GET MORE INFORMATION ON THAT FROM THE ALBANY COMPANY. BUT I THINK THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE, LIKE I KNOW IW WATER INTO IT. IT'S JUST I DON'T KNOW IF I SHOULD IF IT'S POSSIBLE, ESSENTIALLY, BUT THERE'S A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT CATCH BASINS, ONE ON MY PROPERTY TO THE NORTH AND THEN ONE RIGHT THERE WHERE THAT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF WHERE MY MOUND WOULD BE. SO. SO I HAVE THANK YOU. WATER IS A BIG ISSUE TO LOOK INTO, FOR SURE. I HAVE ONE LAST, I THINK, BRIEF QUESTION MY COLLEAGUE ASKED ABOUT GATING OR WHETHER ACCESS TO THE FIELD WOULD BE CONTROLLED IN SOME FASHION. I USED TO SERVE ON THE COLUMBUS RECREATION PARKS COMMISSION.
WE'VE HAD PROBLEMS OR THEY HAD PROBLEMS FROM TIME TO TIME WITH PEOPLE DRIVING. YEAH, ATVS ONTO PARK PROPERTY AND DOING SOME DAMAGE. OBVIOUSLY THERE'S TURF. THIS IS MAYBE A LITTLE DIFFERENT, BUT IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU FACTORED IN IN TERMS OF PHYSICALLY PREVENTING FOUR WHEEL, THREE WHEEL VEHICLES FROM BEING DRIVEN ONTO THE FIELD? SO THAT, YES, WE ARE PROPOSING A BLACK FENCE ALL THE WAY AROUND THE TURF WITH GATES THAT CAN BE LOCKED AT THE END OF THE NIGHT FOR THE FOR THE FIELD. I THOUGHT EARLIER, THE GATE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT WOULD BE LIKE THE PROPERTY ENTRANCE, WHICH TO ME FELT LIKE MIGHT BE MORE OF A PAIN THAN IT'S WORTH, BUT CERTAINLY ACCESS TO THE FIELD WILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO LOCK THE GATES AND ON THE FENCE. THANK YOU. YEAH. AND I HAD JUST ONE MORE QUESTION. YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU SPOKE WITH THE NEIGHBORS. CAN YOU KIND OF TELL US SOME OF THE CHANGES YOU MADE TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE THAT BETTER? YEAH. SO THE FIRST CHANGE, THE FIRST BIG CHANGE WAS I HAD THE, THE FIELDS ORIENTED DIFFERENTLY. SO INSTEAD OF TAKING UP, YOU KNOW, 75, LIKE GOING ALL THE WAY OVER, THEY WERE FLIPPED LIKE 90 DEGREES. AND I FELT LIKE IT WAS TOO CLOSE TO THE PROPERTIES, YOU KNOW, TO THE, TO THE EAST. SO I ENDED UP CHANGING THE DESIGN TO MOVE IT AS FAR AWAY FROM THE EAST AS POSSIBLE, BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE HOUSES THAT ARE THE MOST RELEVANT FOR THE LIGHTING. THE TREES TO THE WEST ARE DENSE AND NOT COMING DOWN TO MY KNOWLEDGE ANYTIME SOON. AND THAT NEIGHBORS NOT WORRIED ABOUT IT. I WANTED TO GET AS FAR AWAY AS POSSIBLE FROM THE LIGHTING, FROM THE NEIGHBORS TO THE EAST, WHICH ARE THE CLOSEST HOMES. WHAT ELSE? FROM TALKING TO THE NEIGHBORS. THE PRIVACY FENCE IN
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THE MOUND TO. ON. THE DRIVE GOING DOWN YOU JUST TALKED ABOUT PROBABLY SOMETHING LIKE WHEN YOU PULL IT IN. YEAH. SO THAT'S STILL KIND OF UP IN THE AIR, BUT LIKE LANDSCAPING AND FENCING ON THE ENTRANCE, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T WANT TO BASICALLY BLOCK THE VISION OF THE DRIVERS, BUT YOU DO WANT TO KEEP IT. SO IT FEELS A LITTLE PRIVATE AND SEPARATE FROM THE ADJOINING NEIGHBORS, THE SIZE OF THE LIGHT POLES. YEAH. THERE WILL. I'M TRYING TO THINK WHAT OTHER. YEAH. THAT'S IT. THAT'S ALL I CAN THINK OF. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE? I SAW YOUR HAND UP. SO I THINK WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE YOU IDENTIFY YOURSELF AND ASK A QUESTION.SURE. THAT'LL JUST HELP US CAPTURE IT FOR THE MINUTES. ALL RIGHT. MY NAME IS TOM KERRY. I LIVE AT SEVEN SEVEN, TWO SIX MORSE ROAD. LET ME SHOW YOU UP HERE. IT'LL BE EASIER. EVERYONE SEE WHICH ONE? I WAS NEVER APPROACHED ABOUT THIS. ME AND MY WIFE WERE NEVER APPROACHED BY THIS. SO WE HAVE QUESTIONS. AND I WAS A LITTLE BIT LATE. I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT PART. BUT.
RIGHT NOW, ALL THE IN THAT CORNER SECTION UP BY MY PROPERTY, ALL THEM TREES HAVE BEEN TAKEN OUT. YOU CAN SEE RIGHT INTO THE PROPERTY. SO WE HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. WE REALLY, YOU KNOW, JUST COMING INTO THIS MEETING, THAT'S THE FIRST OF A SOCCER. I MEAN, WE TOLD HER SOCCER FIELDS, BUT NOW IT'S LIKE ONE FIELD. BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PLAN IS IT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC? IS IT JUST FOR HIS FAMILY? AND THEN THE CONGESTION ON MORSE ROAD? IS THAT GOING TO BE AN ISSUE? SHOULD THERE BE TURN LANES FOR THE TRAFFIC ON BOTH SIDES? SO LIKE A THREE LANE ROAD, HAS THAT BEEN DISCUSSED? NOW I'M HEARING LIGHTS. THERE'S LIGHTS GOING TO BE ON 24 OVER SEVEN OR JUST A LOT OF CONCERNS FOR OUR HOME, OUR VALUE OF OUR HOME.
JIM WATSON'S HOUSE, ALL THEM TREES WERE CLEARED OUT. WE LOOKED AT THE SOCCER FIELDS ALL THE WAY OVER HERE. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY ALL THEM TREES YOU CAN'T PLANT PUT THEM BACK IN. BUT THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE IF THEY WERE LEFT. BECAUSE THEY. JIM WATSON, THE 7714.
IT'S ALL OPEN TO THE FIELD NOW. HE HAS LIKE MAYBE 3 OR 4 TREES IN THE BACK OF HIS. CAN I GET I THINK I THINK YOU ASKED THE QUESTION SO WE CAN WE CAN DEFINITELY TAKE IT. YEAH, WE CAN TAKE ALL THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. THE APPLICANT IS HERE. SO BECAUSE I'M I'M REALLY CONCERNED THE VALUE OF MY HOME BECAUSE ONCE THIS GOES IN, WHO'S TO SAY IF YOU LOOK ON THE OTHER SIDE OF STREET, THERE'S A TEN ACRE LOT THAT'S VACANT. THE HOUSE IS NO ONE'S LIVING IN A HOUSE. AND WE GOT SOCCER FIELD OVER HERE. WHAT'S GOING TO GO ACROSS THE STREET? YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW WHO WANTS TO? WE BOUGHT THAT HOUSE FOR A REASON. NONE OF THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN. OKAY? YEAH, YEAH. SO, JAKE. SO I'M LOOKING AT. YEAH. I WAS JUST EXPLAINING. I HAD MADE A LOT OF ATTEMPTS TO REACH ALL THE NEIGHBORS AND. TOM AND I WENT OUT AND KNOCKED ON THE DOOR. EVERYBODY I HANDED OUT. SO WE WEREN'T ABLE TO CONNECT. BUT WITH RESPECT TO THE TREES THAT WERE THERE, YOU KNOW, OUR MY THINKING WAS WE WOULD WHATEVER SCREENING WE WOULD DO WOULD BE NICE AND LIKE THEY WERE JUST A COUPLE POCKETS OF LIKE TREES. AND SO I WANT LIKE EVERGREENS, FIRST OF ALL, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT, THAT LIKE WHAT I'M DISCLOSING FOR THE EAST SIDE, THAT'S SOMETHING. REALLY NICE. SO THAT'S NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. SOME OTHER QUESTIONS. THE LIGHTING. YEAH. ONE OF THE LIGHTING. YEAH, SURE. SO THE IDEA IS, YOU KNOW, I'M
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JUST AUTHORIZING. SO I BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY. ALL RIGHT. SO I'M TRYING TO GET A. PLACE SO WE DON'T HAVE TO DRIVE 30 MINUTES EVERY DAY. SO I'M TRYING TO GET.I DO WISH MY FATHER SHOULD HAVE CONNECTED, BUT I. WAS OUT OF THE THE LIGHTING THAT I PROPOSED OR THE LIGHTING THAT CAME OUT THESE LIGHTS. AND I SAID, WELL, THE MINIMAL THING WORKS. AND SO WE DON'T WE'RE NOT GOING TO PLACE. VERY SHORT LIGHTS JUST, JUST FOR THE FIELD AND TO THE POINT WHERE I WAS GUARANTEED FROM THE ENGINEERS THAT. SURE. YEAH. SO AT FIRST I.
TRIED TO TELL ME TO PUT LIKE THREE LIGHTS ON THIS SIDE, THREE LIGHTS ON THAT SIDE, THREE LIGHTS ON THAT SIDE, LIGHTS ON THAT SIDE. I TOLD THEM, NO, IT'S TOO MUCH. LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, WITH LIGHTS. AND SO I WENT BACK TO. AND I GOT EASTERN AROUND. SO IT'S FOUR LIGHT POLES HERE, HERE, HERE AND HERE FACING THIS WAY. AND THERE'S ONLY ONE FOOT CANDLE OF LIGHT IN THE PROPERTY BORDER. AND THERE'S ZERO FOOT CANDLES OF LIGHT AT THE CLOSEST RESIDENCE, WHICH ARE USED TO. SO, YOU KNOW, SO WE'RE BACK TO THAT. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. SO HERE.
ARE THESE TREES STILL HERE? YEAH. ALL THOSE TREES ARE STILL, YOU KNOW. YEAH. WE GO BACK THERE, HAD TO TAKE OUT. SO I HAD TO TAKE OUT THIS TREE RIGHT HERE. AND THEN THERE WERE A FEW HERE. AND THEN THERE'S A LITTLE CORNER RIGHT HERE. SO I DIDN'T HAVE TO TAKE THEM ALL OUT. LIKE, YOU KNOW, SOME. IT'S NOT MUCH. YEAH. BUT WE'RE HAPPY TO PUT MORE, MORE SCREENING HERE. BUT I WOULD WANT TO LIKE LOOK NICE. BECAUSE EVERYTHING'S RIGHT ALONG HERE. NOW. WHAT ASSURES ME THAT THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH COUNCIL. THAT WE CAN DO IT WITH YOU? YEAH. I MEAN, I'M WILLING TO DO IT. I'M JUST. MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO IT. BUT WE DON'T WANT TO DO TO ANYBODY.
YEAH. CAN CAN YOU CHIME IN ON THAT QUESTION? SURE. SO IN THIS PROPOSAL LAYOUT, HE'S GOT TREES GOING ALL THE WAY DOWN THE EAST PROPERTY LINE AND COMING DOWN HALFWAY TO THE DRIVE. THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF A GAP HERE WHERE THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL SCREENING CURRENTLY ON THE PLAN.
BUT THE WAY THIS WOULD WORK IS THE APPLICANT IN THE REZONING PROPOSAL SAYS, HERE'S WHAT I'M GOING TO BUILD. AND THEN IF IT'S APPROVED, THAT'S WHAT HE'S GOING TO BUILD. HE'LL APPLY FOR A ZONING PERMIT. SO THAT'LL BE THE AUTHORITY TO ACTUALLY COME IN AND BUILD THIS STUFF. AND THEN WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT IT MATCHES WHAT WAS APPROVED AND THE REZONING. SO IF HE COMMITS TO BUILD IT THIS WAY, LIKE A DEVELOPMENT PLAN, THEN THAT THAT'LL BE WHAT HE'S HELD TO.
THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU. WERE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM. THE GROUP? YEAH. OKAY. MY NAME IS DON AND I LIVE ON PINE MEADOW. WITH THAT. I LIVE RIGHT AND I SHAKE, SO I APOLOGIZE.
THAT'S OKAY. SO THIS ROAD RUNS RIGHT UP INTO MY DRIVEWAY GOING THIS WAY. SO I'M LIKE, RIGHT THERE, I MET THIS GENTLEMAN HERE BY SOMEBODY HANDED A FLIER AND I JUST HAPPEN NOT TO BE THERE THAT DAY. AND HE SENT ME A COPY OF IT. AND I CALLED HIM RIGHT AWAY BECAUSE MY BACKGROUND IS I USED TO BE THE PRESIDENT OF NEW ALBANY REC SOCCER LEAGUE, AND WE HAD TO.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE THE RECREATION, THE TRAVEL TEAMS HAVE TO HAVE A REC LEAGUE TO BE ASSOCIATED FOR IT TO BE A CLUB. AND SO WE ADOPTED, WHICH WAS AT THE TIME, GAHANNA, NEW ALBANY, AND MERGED TOGETHER. IT WAS CALLED A SOCCER. AND WE HAD THE PROBLEM. WHAT HE WAS TALKING
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ABOUT IS HAVING SOCCER FIELDS THROUGHOUT. WE REALLY DIDN'T HAVE PRACTICE AREAS. THOMPSON WAS JUST COMING ONLINE WHEN I WAS PRESIDENT, AND SO WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT. SO WE USED QUEST COMMUNITY CHURCH AS SOCCER FIELDS MADE GREEN SPACE THERE, CHURCH OVER IN GAHANNA. WE WERE SPOT ALL THROUGH THE PORTFOLIO OF GAHANNA AND NEW ALBANY AND SOME A LITTLE FURTHER, YOU GENEE FOCAL POINT WAS. AND I WAS A COACH FOR A. I COACHED MY SON AND DAUGHTER FOR FIVE YEARS IN THAT. AND THEN THEY FINALLY DECIDED TO GET OUT OF SOCCER. SO THEN I JUST WENT, OKAY, I THINK MY TIME IS DONE. BUT WHAT THIS IS TO SAY IS THAT WHEN HE WHEN HIM AND I SPOKE. YOU SAID YOU LIVE CLOSE TO THE SOCCER FIELD. YEAH. THOMPSON. I LIVE NEAR HERE. YEAH. SO YOUR YOUR TIME FRAME OF SOUND IS USUALLY LIKE ON A WEEKEND STARTING AROUND 8:00 TO ABOUT 5:00 IN THE EVENING AND IT STOPS. RIGHT. AND THAT SOUND JUST GOES COMPLETELY DEAD. AND WHEN IT'S PRACTICE SEASON OR PRACTICE NIGHTS, IT'S NOT THE SCREAMING LIKE A GAME. IT'S MORE LIKE THE COACH YELLING, RIGHT. THAT'S ABOUT IT. YEAH. AND SO THAT THAT MINIMIZES A LOT. I DID AT WORTHINGTON CHRISTIAN, I WAS A SPORTS FACILITY MANAGER FOR THEIR FIELD AND THEIR LIGHTING.WE DEALT WITH A LOT OF TWO WITH THE RESIDENTS AROUND, BUT OUR LIGHTING WAS THE OLD STYLE CAN LIGHTING THAT WARMED UP. AND THEN YOU SHUT THEM DOWN AND YOU HAD TO WAIT A HALF HOUR FOR THEM TO POP BACK ON. SO THEY'RE VERY. THE AMBIANCE OF IT DROWNED OUT A LOT, JUST LIKE MOST FOOTBALL FIELDS DO THROUGHOUT OHIO. SO I DEALT WITH THAT A LOT. AND WHEN I TALKED TO HIM ABOUT THE LIGHTING, LED LIGHTING IS A LOT MORE DIRECTIONAL, SO IT DOESN'T KIND OF DROWN OUT MORE. SO IT WAS GOOD TO HEAR THAT. AND THEN JUST, JUST SO YOU KNOW, BECAUSE SOMEBODY ASKED ABOUT THE DRAINAGE, AGAIN, SORRY FOR THE SHAKING, BUT WE HAVE STORM SEWERS THAT GOES DOWN HERE ACROSS MY DRIVEWAY OVER HERE, AND THEN RIGHT BEHIND THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THERE'S STORM SEWERS THAT GO ALL THE WAY DOWN HERE TO THE RIVER. SO WHEN I TALKED TO HIM, I SAID, WELL, MAYBE THAT MIGHT BE AN OPTION THAT YOU CAN MAYBE CONNECT INTO.
I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE. AND THAT WAS BROUGHT UP. IS THAT HIS IN BACK OF OURS WHERE HE DID STUFF IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE CAPACITY, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S BIG ENOUGH, BUT I DON'T KNOW. WE'VE HAD SOME FLOODS IN OUR AREA. THE GOOD THING ABOUT NOISE IS WITH KIDS, WE HAVE A KENNEL THAT'S RIGHT UP ABOVE HERE ON MORRIS ROAD. THERE'S A KENNEL, A DOG KENNEL. THEY LET THEM OUT. THE DOGS GO CRAZY, PUT THEM BACK AWAY. RIGHT. AND THE NOISE GOES DOWN. KIDS, THE SAME WAY YOU DO YOUR SOCCER PRACTICE. IT'S REAL LOUD ON SATURDAYS, MAYBE ON SUNDAYS. AND THEN BY 9:00 THE SOUND GOES DOWN. I LIKE THE IDEA THAT THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE LIGHTS THAT GO BLACK AT 11:00. THE THING THAT WE HAVE THE PROBLEM WITH IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT NOW HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH KIDS. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH DOGS BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, THEY COME OUT, THEY MAKE NOISE AND THEY GO BACK IN THEIR KENNEL.HEAR THE PROBLEMS WITH GOOGLE. GOOGLE IS THE AMBIANCE FROM THEIR NOISE IS OVER 50DB. THAT'S READING OVER OUR PROPERTY, SHAKING OUR HOUSES. AND THIS. WHEN YOU HAVE KIDS PRACTICING, YOU WON'T HEAR THAT. AND LIKE I SAID, IT GOES DEAD. I CAN SHOW YOU PAPERWORK BECAUSE NOW NEW ALBANY IS PUTTING RECORDING STUFF ON OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEY'RE TRYING TO FIX IT. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO FIX IT BECAUSE AMBIANCE, IF YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT BASS, YOU CAN'T CHANGE DIRECTION. NOW I'M JUST GIVING YOU THE IDEA THAT THE PROBLEM IS NOT THE KIDS OR THE DOGS. THE PROBLEMS OF THE ORDINANCE. WHEN YOU START TO LOOK AT AND I HATE WHEN YOU GO, I'M THE GUY FROM BEAR. YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GUYS START TO LOOK AT THAT, PLEASE LOOK AT THE AMBIANCE OF WHAT THEIR SOUND ACTUALLY CAN DO. BECAUSE I'M A A LITTLE OVER A QUARTER MILE AWAY FROM GOOGLE, AND SOMEHOW AT THE PROP. BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT OUR THE NOISE ORDINANCE, IT SAYS ZERO AT THE PROPERTY LINE. THAT'S WHAT WE ARE FOR. NEW ALBANY, ZERO AT THE PROPERTY LINE.
SOMEHOW THE SOUND HAS DIVERTED UP IN THE AIR AND NOW COME THROUGH ALL THE TREES. THIS HERE IS ABOUT. IT'S VERY THIN COMPARED TO OUR PROPERTY LINE BETWEEN OUR HOUSE AND THEIRS.
THEIR TREE LINES IS FOR. I WISH YOU CAN SEE IT, BUT IT'S TREES FOREVER ALL THE WAY OVER
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TOWARDS IT AND SOMEHOW THAT SOUND HAS COME THROUGH. SO WHEN YOU GUYS START APPROVING OR LOOKING AT NOISE ORDINANCE OR PROPERTIES COMING IN, PLEASE LOOK AT THE NOISE ORDINANCE AND MAKE SURE THE RESEARCH IS GOOD BECAUSE GOOGLE'S RESEARCH HAS FAILED. IT HAS FAILED US. WE'VE BEEN IN A LOT OF MEETINGS WITH PLAIN TOWNSHIP, WITH NEW ALBANY AND NEW ALBANY OVER HERE. BUT NEW ALBANY, WE HAD WE ACTUALLY WERE INVITED TO GO AND SIT AND TALK WITH YOU. AND WHEN THAT WHEN I HEAR THE BEARS COMING AND OTHER THINGS ARE STILL GOING. I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT THE PROPERTY VALUE OF OUR HOUSE WITH KIDS AND DOGS BECAUSE LIKE I SAY, THEY COME AND THEY GO.THIS SOUND THAT I HAVE RIGHT NOW HAS NOT ENDED. IT'S CONSTANTLY YOU COULD GO TO MY HOUSE RIGHT NOW, IT'S VIBRATING THROUGH MY HOUSE. AND ANOTHER GENTLEMAN WAS GOING TO BE HERE, BUT HE HAS HIS OWN BUSINESS AND HE'S VERY BUSY. AND, AND WE'VE HAD DUE DILIGENCE. AND YOU CAN ASK BEN, WE HAVE BEEN TALKING TO THEM NONSTOP. COULD I ASK YOU A QUESTION FOR CLARIFICATION? SO AS FAR AS THIS IS CONCERNED, YOU'RE NOT HERE TO OBJECT. OH NO. OKAY.
THAT THAT THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT WE NEED TO KNOW. YEAH. AND I WAS GETTING TO THAT POINT. YEAH, I APOLOGIZE, I STARTED GOING. NO IT'S OKAY. WE WE HAVE TO SORT OF FOCUS ON WHAT WE'RE WHAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S IN FRONT OF US. SO THAT'S HELPFUL FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. LIKE I SAID, WE AS A FATHER OF TWO KIDS, WE HAD TO TRAVEL ALL THE WAY TO CENTRAL COLLEGE AT QUEST TO PRACTICE THAT. SO THAT'S WHERE. AND I WAS THE COACH. SO I WAS LIKE, OKAY, WE GOTTA GO ALL THE WAY ACROSS TOWN. AND THEN WE WOULD TRAVEL ALL OVER TO DIFFERENT CHURCHES THROUGHOUT GAHANNA. OKAY, SO I DO APPROVE OF IT. I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT BECAUSE ONE OF THE FORECAST PRINTS SHOWED THIS BEING TOWNHOMES GOING FROM HERE DOWN. OH, SORRY. OKAY. THAT'S OKAY TO DO THAT. TOWNHOMES GOING IN THERE. SO TO HEAR THAT THAT PARK IS GOING IN THERE. I WILL TAKE KIDS. LIKE I SAID, THE KIDS WILL GO. I, I LOVE THE IDEA THAT WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT TO PROTECT HIS PROPERTY BECAUSE IT WAS REAL HARD FOR ME BECAUSE I WAS ALSO AN EMPLOYEE FOR NEW ALBANY PARKS. SO I DEALT WITH VANDALISM ALL THE TIME ON THE PARKS THAT WE WERE ALWAYS DOING REPAIRS ON IT. WORTHINGTON CHRISTIAN WE HAD THE SAME THING. SO I APPRECIATE YOU LISTENING TO THOSE THINGS. I JUST WANTED YOU TO REALIZE THAT MAKE SURE THAT NOISE ORDINANCE IS REALLY RESEARCH BECAUSE IT IS NOT WORKING AT ALL. AND THERE'S BEEN MILLIONS OF DOLLARS RIGHT NOW TO TRY TO FIX IT, AND THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO FIX IT. I DON'T THINK SO. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ARE WE READY TO VOTE ON THIS? DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. WELL WE WILL GO AHEAD AND VOTE. SO I GUESS WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL THE ROLL. WE NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND. OH, YEAH. SORRY ABOUT THAT. NO WORRIES. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO GO AHEAD AND VOTE? MOTION TO. SHOULD THE MOTION COME FROM PLAIN TOWNSHIP? JUST AS A COURTESY. YOU THINK? WAS THIS JUST FOR REVIEW OR WAS THIS. IT'S FOR REVIEW AND ACTION. YEAH. YOU AND. YEAH. CORRECT. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. YEAH. WE HAVE A SECOND.
I'LL SECOND. MR. HARPER. YES. MR. SMITHERS. YES. MR. BENSON. YES. MR. BILLMAN. YES. MR. HERSKOWITZ. YES. MR. CAVALIER. NO. MR. PAUL. YES, THE AYES HAVE IT WITH SIX VOTES IN FAVOR AND ONE VOTE AGAINST THE APPLICATION. AND, MR. SHAPIRO, IF YOU COULD JUST GIVE ME YOUR REASONS. FOR THE RECORD, THERE WERE TOO MANY TIMES DURING THE PRESENTATION WHERE HE MADE A COMMENT SIMILAR TO. I HADN'T THOUGHT ABOUT THAT OR WHATEVER, AND THAT'S WHY I ASKED IF IT WAS JUST FOR REVIEW OR WHATEVER, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE SPECIFICS COMING FROM THE PRESENTER OF THE PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. AND WE WOULD OBVIOUSLY LOVE TO SEE IT CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORS. OKAY. OKAY. ARE WE READY FOR OUR NEXT ONE? OKAY, I JUST HAVE TO SCROLL TO MY PAGE HERE. SO WE'LL HAVE THAT IN JUST A SECOND. OKAY. SO THE
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NEXT, THE NEXT ITEM WE HAVE, AND THIS IS ALSO A REVIEW AND ACTION IS Z C 1008 2026. NUMBER TWO EXCEPTIONAL USE REZONING. SO WE'LL HEAR FROM THE STAFF. GOOD AFTERNOON. THIS CASE IS ALSO FOR REVIEW AND ACTION. REZONING IS 5.165 ACRES. GENERALLY LOCATED WEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF EAST WALNUT STREET AND BETHLEHEM ROAD. CURRENT ZONING IS RURAL, REQUESTED TO REZONE TO EXCEPTIONAL USE LIKE THE LAST CASE, AND THIS PROPOSAL WOULD ALLOW FOR A BASEBALL TRAINING FACILITY AND OUTDOOR BASEBALL FIELD. THE APPLICANT. ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNER IS PLANNED FOR LAND REPRESENTED BY JOE CLAY, WHO'S HERE TODAY. SO THIS REQUEST IS. TO ALLOW THE BASEBALL TRAINING FACILITY, AND IT'S LOCATED RIGHT BETWEEN THE CURRENT LOCATION OF THE NEW ALBANY FIELD HOUSE SITE TO THE EAST AND ROCKY FORK PARK TO THE WEST. AT THAT INTERSECTION OF BEVEL HEIMER AND WALNUT STREET, WE HAVE. AND THEN TO THE EAST, WE HAVE 12 BASEBALL FIELDS AS WELL AS OTHER FIELDS AT BETHLEHEM PARK.THE SITE IS LOCATED IN THE ACCORDS PARK ZONE DISTRICT, AND THE PROPOSED REZONING WOULD ALLOW FOR RECREATIONAL USES. AGAIN, THE PLAIN TOWNSHIP LAND USE PLAN CALLS FOR CONTINUED EXPANSION OF RECREATIONAL USES IN PLAIN TOWNSHIP. THE PROPERTY SURROUNDING IT HAVE BEEN ANNEXED INTO THE. THE CITY LIMITS OF. TO THE EAST. TO THE SOUTH. AND WHILE THE BASEBALL TRAINING FACILITY MAY NOT STRICTLY FALL WITHIN THE ACCORDS METRO PARK CLASSIFICATION, THE AREA IS AN ESTABLISHED RECREATIONAL AREA, INCLUDING THE USES ITEMIZED.
THE ACCORDS PERMITTED LAND USE ALLOWS PARKLAND ORTIAL. IN THIS AREA. THE CURRENT USE IS AN OCCUPIED SINGLE FAMILY HOME AND THE. THE OWNER PROPOSES BUILDING IN TWO PHASES, KEEPING THE HOME. WHILE THE FIRST PHASE IS CONSTRUCTED. AND. REZONING FROM RESIDENTIAL TO EXCEPTIONAL USE ALLOWS THE CONTINUED EXPANSION OF RECREATIONAL FACILITIES. THE BASEBALL TRAINING FACILITY ADDS A NEEDED RECREATIONAL FACILITY FOR SURROUNDING JURISDICTION. GIVEN THE INTEREST IN BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL, ALLUDED TO THE FACT THAT THE CURRENT BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL FIELDS FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAVE BEEN ELIMINATED FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A SCHOOL BUILDING, AND THE CITY AND SCHOOL DISTRICT ARE IN THE PLANNING STAGES FOR NEW FACILITIES. THIS PROPOSAL COULD SUPPORT LOCAL RECREATIONAL LEAGUES AND TEAMS, AS WELL AS POTENTIALLY THE NEW ALBANY PLAIN LOCAL SCHOOLS. RECREATIONAL EXISTING ADJACENT RECREATIONAL FACILITIES HAVE CREATED A CORRIDOR OF RECREATION HERE, AND THIS WOULD ADD TO THAT. THESE USES ARE INTENDED TO BE INTEGRATED THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY. THIS REZONING SUPPORTS INTEGRATION. IT ALSO CONNECTS TO THE EXISTING FACILITIES THROUGH A LEISURE TRAIL. THE REZONING IS APPROPRIATE FOR THIS SITE CONSIDERING THE EXISTING AND SURROUNDING USES THAT ARE OF A SIMILAR NATURE, AND THE ACCORD PLAN IDENTIFIES THE AREAS NORTH OF WALNUT STREET AS A LIKELY LOCATION FOR THE METRO PARK, WHICH WE NOW HAVE IN PLACE. WE DON'T REALLY ANTICIPATE ANY OTHER USE OF THIS LAND IN THE FUTURE, OTHER THAN THAT WOULD BE PART OF SOME RECREATIONAL USE, WHETHER CITY PARK, METRO PARK OR OTHERWISE. PAGE 38 OF THE ACCORD PLAN NOTES THAT THE COMMUNITY. JUST ITEMIZING THE PARK ZONE DEVELOPMENT STANDARD.
WE LOOKED AT THIS. SIMILAR TO THE CITY'S APPLICATION FOR THE NEW ALBANY FIELD HOUSE.
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CONSIDERING THAT THIS WILL HAVE A STRUCTURE, IT'LL BE A COMMERCIAL USE. SO WE COMPARED IT TO THE OFFICE DISTRICT. THE PROPOSAL SUPPORTS THE ACCORD'S KEY PRINCIPLES, INCLUDING MAINTAINING THE ESTHETIC CHARACTER OF RURAL ROADS, USING OPEN SPACE AS AN ORGANIZATIONAL ELEMENT, CREATING A CENTER FOCUS THAT COMBINES CIVIC, CULTURAL AND RECREATIONAL USES AND CREATING AN AMPLE SUPPLY OF SQUARES, GREENS, PARKS AND LANDSCAPING. THE BASEBALL FACILITY WILL BE ACCESSED FROMOE TRAIL, CONNECTING IT TO THE EXISTING RECREATIONAL FACILITIES, THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY. THE ACCORD PLAN ENCOURAGES RETENTION BASINS TO CONTROL RUNOFF, AND THE APPLICANT HAS ADDRESSED THAT. THE PROPOSED FACILITY MEETS THE EXCEPTIONAL USE ZONING DISTRICTS, 25 FOOT SIDE AND REAR YARD REQUIREMENTS, AND THE 250 FOOT SETBACK FROM WALNUT STREET CONTRIBUTES TO MAINTAINING THE RURAL CHARACTER OF THE ROAD AND COMPLIES WITH THE COURT'S REQUIREMENTS FOR RURAL ROAD CORRIDORS. THE FACILITY MEETS THE LOT COVERAGE REQUIREMENT, WITH 56% OF COVERAGE AT FULL BUILD, OUT BELOW THE ACCORD'S MAXIMUM OF 70%. THE PROPOSED. THE PROPOSAL SUPPORTS SOME OF THE ACCORD'S STRATEGIES, INCLUDING DEVELOPMENTS SHOULD BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE RURAL LANDSCAPE. SCENIC QUALITIES ALONG RURAL ROADWAYS SHOULD BE MAINTAINED. THE RURAL CHARACTER OF THE L L L L L L L L L L L L L CORRIDOR SHOULD BE MAINTAINED, AND FUTURE DEVELOPMENT SHOULD HAVE ADEQUATE FACILITIES SUCH AS PARKLAND, SCHOOLS AND RECREATION. THE PROPOSED REZONING TO EXCEPTIONAL USE ALLOWS THE ADDITION OF NEEDED RECREATIONAL FACILITIES WITH THE EXISTING RECREATIONAL CLUSTER, AND SUPPORTS SOME OF THE ACCORD'S KEY PRINCIPLES, STRATEGIES AND GOALS. THE PROPOSAL SCORES 91.7% ON THE REPORT CARD, SIMILAR TO THE FIELD HOUSE PROJECT, YOU CAN SEE ITS PROXIMITY TO THE FIELD HOUSE HERE. THE SETBACK FROM WALNUT STREET, AND THERE ARE FUTURE PLANS FOR THAT REMAINING OPEN SPACE THAT IT WOULD BE DEVELOPED FOR RECREATIONAL USE, LIKELY ADDITIONAL FIELDS. THIS WOULD BE PHASE ONE, INCLUDING A MAIN STRUCTURE, PARKING RETENTION, BASIN MOUNTING AND SCREENING ALONG WALNUT STREET. AND THEN THE HOUSE WOULD BE RAISED FOR PHASE TWO WITH ADDITIONAL FACILITY AND THE OUTDOOR BASEBALL FIELD. THIS PROJECT, WE WERE ABLE TO COMPLETE THE EVALUATION CHECKLIST AND RUN THROUGH THE CORE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. THE PROPOSAL LARGELY COMPLIES WITH THOSE STANDARDS, AS INDICATED, AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR MAKE A PRESENTATION. OKAY. I WILL GO AHEAD AND HAVE THE APPLICANT COME FORWARD. PLEASE PLAN FOR LAND. LEXUS AND I AT THE OFFICE MET MR. AND MRS. NEFF MAYBE 18 MONTHS AGO TO TRY TO TAKE A LOOK AT THEIR PROPERTY AND SEE WHAT OPPORTUNITIES THEY HAD. WE UNDERSTOOD THE CITY DIDN'T HAVE AN INTEREST IN THIS PARK. THIS WAS A PART OF THE RECREATIONAL.BUT AFTER TALKING WITH BEN AND UNDERSTANDING THE TOWNSHIP'S DESIRES FOR KIND OF EXPANDING RECREATIONAL AND OPEN SPACE DISTRICT, THERE, WE STARTED TALKING THROUGH LOGICALLY WHAT THE USE MIGHT LOOK LIKE. IT TOOK HIM A WHILE TO DEVELOP THE BUSINESS PLAN. SO PART OF THAT 18 MONTHS WAS COMING UP WITH THE BUSINESS PLAN. BUT HE DOES KNOW THAT HE'S GOT A RESIDENCE THERE, AND HE'D LIKE TO RETAIN THAT DURING THE INITIAL CONSTRUCTION AS MORE OF A WATCHMAN TYPE TO HELP MAKE SURE THE PROJECT GETS OFF THE OFF THE GROUND. BUT SIMILAR TO THE LAST PROJECT, HE'S LOOKING AT A CLUB FACILITY, SOMETHING THAT COULD BE UTILIZED FOR BASEBALL TRAINING. IF THIS WOULD NOT BE FOR SPECTATOR SPORT, IT WOULD ONLY BE FOR TRAINING. I THINK WE HAD AN UPDATED SITE PLAN IN THE LAST YEAR THAT MIGHT HAVE PUSHED THE BUILDING BACK AND CHANGED THE FORMAT A LITTLE BIT, BUT IT'S GENERALLY THE SAME CHARACTER ON THE SCREEN. WE WE DID TRY TO PUSH IT BACK. REGARDING SETBACKS THAT WERE RECOMMENDED FOR THE FIRST TIME AROUND, BUT THE NOTION WOULD BE THE FRONT BUILDINGS ACTUALLY BEING COMBINED WITH THE MULTI-PURPOSE BUILDING THAT'S SHOWN THERE. SO THE RESTROOMS WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE IN THE PRIMARY BATTING CAGE FACILITY, PARKING WOULD BE CONSTRUCTED OUT FRONT, BUT WE ACTUALLY WRAPPED THE RETENTION BASIN SO THAT IT WAS FURTHER FROM THE COMPLEX TO THE EAST. AND IT WOULD BE BETWEEN THE THE PARKING LOT AND THE, THE MOUNTAIN THAT'S THERE. THE DISCUSSION THAT'S BEEN TO WORK ON ARCHITECTURE. ONCE WE KNOW THE SCALE OF THE BUILDING, IT WILL BE PERMISSIBLE THERE AND GET SOME MORE DETAILS. SO I DON'T WANT TO SOUND LIKE I
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DON'T HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS, BUT WE, WE ARE WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CONCEPTS RIGHT BEFORE WE, WE TAKE IT TO A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. SO WE'VE GONE THROUGH PRELIMINARY DISCUSSIONS WITH STORMWATER. WE WERE ASSURED THAT WE HAVE ADEQUATE AREA ON SITE. WE'VE ALSO HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CITY ABOUT THE POTENTIAL FOR UTILIZING THEIR POND. IT'S NOT OVERSIZE TODAY, BUT IT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO WORK WITH THEM ON FUTURE EXPANSIONS OF THE PARK TO GET ADEQUATE STORMWATER, IF THAT'S SUITABLE IN THE FUTURE.I THINK ULTIMATELY, AFTER THE HOUSE IS DECONSTRUCTED AND THE PROPERTIES BUILT OUT, THAT ANNEXATION AND SEWER MIGHT BE A PROSPECT. BUT THE NATURE OF THIS IS PHASING IT SO THAT THE RESIDENTS CAN REMAIN IN THE MEANTIME. SO IT'S A UNIQUE PROPERTY AND THE DEPTH THAT IT IS 1000FT OFF THE ROAD. OUR GOAL IS TO MINIMIZE THE IMPACT ON RESIDENCES ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF WALNUT STREET. AND THEN WITH THE HIGH TENSION POWER LINES, WE JUST TRY TO GIVE A GENERAL DEPICTION OF THE SCALE AND THE CHARACTER OF THE IMPACT, AND WHY RESIDENTIAL IS NOT GOING TO BE A TOLERABLE LONG TERM USE FOR THIS SITE, BUT THE FIELD HOUSE HAS DEFINITELY MADE AN IMPACT ON THE CURRENT USE OF THE PROPERTY. SO THEY'RE LOOKING AT THIS AS A SUITABLE WAY TO, TO HAVE A COMPATIBLE LAND USE THAT WOULD BLEND IN WITH WHAT'S GOING IN AROUND THEM. WE DID LOOK AT LANDSCAPING ALONG THE FRONT END, AND WE'RE OPEN TO DISCUSSIONS.
WE WOULD RETAIN EVERY TREE ON THE PROPERTY EXCEPT FOR THERE'S A SMALL CLUSTER THAT SITS IN BETWEEN WHERE THE RESIDENCE AND THE FRONT ARE TODAY. NOT VERY HIGH QUALITY TREES, BUT IT'S AN OLD F F F F F F F F F F F F F FD BE REMOVED AS A PART OF THE SECONDARY TRAINING FACILITY.
WHEN IT'S CONSTRUCTED, THE OUTDOOR FIELD IS NOT TO BE LIT IN. THE PARKING WOULD ONLY BE LIT FROM THE BUILDING. THE ACTIVITIES HERE, WE DID RESTRICT OURS WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT TEXT WITH THE. THE NOTION WOULD BE THAT THE OUTDOOR FIELDS USED FOR ONE ON ONE COACHING, NOT FOR GAMES. IT'S A SMALL TEE BALL SIZE FIELD, SO THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE WILL BE ON THAT FIELD ARE GOING TO BE PLAYING ON BIGGER FIELDS. IT'S JUST FOR THEM TO WORK HANDS AND HANDS ON COACHES AND SMALL SQUADS TO FIGURE OUT STRATEGY. SO IT WOULD BE USED ONLY DURING DAYLIGHT HOURS, NOT DURING NIGHTTIME HOURS. ANYTHING ELSE? IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND OPEN IT UP TO THE PANEL. IS THAT 250FT OFF OF MORRISON? ISN'T THE ROAD SETBACK SUPPOSED TO BE UNDISTURBED? SO I DO APOLOGIZE..
WE CAN CIRCULATE THAT, PERHAPS, BUT THE PLAN WOULD MAINTAIN THE 250 FOOT RURAL SETBACK. IT CALLS FOR MAINTAINING THE RURAL ESTHETIC AND CHARACTER, THE ROADWAY, WHICH, YOU KNOW, MAY OR MAY NOT INCLUDE THE MOUNDING AS PROPOSED, BUT IT IS GOING TO BE SCREENED AND PLANTED, AND IT DOES MAINTAIN THAT 250 FOOT BUFFER. DOES THAT NEED A VARIANCE? THEN AGAIN, I THOUGHT THE ACCORD REGULATION SAID UNDISTURBED, YOU DON'T TOUCH IT. I DON'T KNOW THAT IT SAYS UNDISTURBED. CERTAINLY THE MOUNDING IS NOT THE NATURAL STATE. SO THAT WOULD BE A POINT.
I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE INVESTIGATED. YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS PLAIN TOWNSHIP ZONING. THE EXCEPTIONAL USE DISTRICT WOULD ALLOW SCREENING LIKE THIS. THE PARKING IS A LOT MORE IMPACTFUL THAN THE UPDATED DESIGN. THE MAJORITY OF THAT IS A RETENTION BASIN, AND IT IS THE LOWEST SPOT ON THIS PROPERTY. SO ALL THE WATER GOES TO THE FRONT OF THE SITE, AND IT'S CURRENTLY STANDING THERE. SO AS I DROVE BY THE WATER. AND IT'S AN OPEN GRASSY FIELD TODAY. SO IF THE DESIRE IS TO MAINTAIN ITS NATURAL STATE IN AN ATTEMPT TO DO THAT WITHIN THE SITE PLAN, I DID NOT CATCH THAT IN THE REVIEW OF THE CODE, IF THAT WAS PART OF THE CODE. OKAY, I HAVE, I HAVE OR HAVE YOU DONE? THANK YOU. I HAD A FEW QUESTIONS. JUST JUST SO I'M CLEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. THE SETBACK IS GOING TO BE 250FT AND WHERE YOU HAVE THE BUILDING THERE RIGHT NOW, APPROXIMATELY HOW FAR OF A SETBACK IS THAT? THAT WAS ABOUT 180. WE DID AN INITIAL SUBMITTAL AND THEN WAS KIND ENOUGH TO SHARE SOME INITIAL REVIEW COMMENTS BECAUSE WE HAD SOME ADDITIONAL TIME. OKAY. SO THAT WAS ONE OF MY QUESTIONS. WHEN I LOOKED AT THE THE
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DRAWINGS, YOU KNOW, IT DIDN'T LOOK TO ME WITH EVERYTHING ELSE THAT'S ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE ROAD. AND ALSO ON THIS SIDE OF THE ROAD FROM ROCKY FORK METRO PARK, ALL THE WAY DOWN TO PETER HOOVER ROAD, EVERYTHING SET WAY BACK. AND THAT'S, TO ME, IT LOOKED LIKE IT WAS STICKING OUT A LITTLE BIT TOO FAR. THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD, AND I THINK YOU ANSWERED THIS VIA T BALL SIZE DIAMOND. WELL, YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE JUST GOING TO PLAY PLAY MINIATURE AND GO THROUGH. YOU KNOW, YOU GO FROM HERE TO HERE TO HERE. YEAH, YEAH. OKAY. MORE ABOUT STAGING AND SETUP AND WHERE IS THE ACCESS LOCATION BETWEEN YOUR FACILITY AND THE NEW FACILITY THAT'S BEING BUILT RIGHT NEXT DOOR? WE DO NOT HAVE ANY ACCESS PROPOSED BETWEEN THE TWO. WE WERE UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY HAD PRESERVED AN ACCESS TO THE SITE. BUT IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO CONNECT, I THINK WE COULD. OH, SO THAT HASN'T BEEN ESTABLISHED YET. WE WERE UNDERSTANDING THOSE PLANS WERE APPROVED, BUT THERE WEREN'T PROVIDING ACCESS TO THIS SITE.OKAY. AND THE OTHER COMMENT YOU MENTIONED ABOUT THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE AND STUFF LIKE THAT, MY THOUGHT WOULD BE TO BE COMPATIBLE STYLE WITH WHAT'S RIGHT NEXT DOOR. AND THEN ALSO ON THE OTHER SIDE OF BILHEIMER. SO IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S ALL PART OF THE SAME THING, EVEN IF IT'S NOT. YEAH. WELL, I LOVE THAT IDEA. I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE WERE THINKING AS WELL.
THE FIELD HOUSE HAS A CERTAIN LOOK. AND IF WE COULD MIRROR THAT IN AND PROVIDE A COMPLEMENTARY FACILITY, THAT'D BE GREAT. THOSE WERE THE ONLY THINGS I HAD. OKAY, I HAVE ONE QUESTION. HAS THE FIRE DEPARTMENT REVIEWED THAT EAST SIDE FOR APPARATUS ACCESS? WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY COMMENTS YET. I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WAS A SEPARATE SUBMITTAL THAT'S GOING FROM PLAIN TOWNSHIP OR IF WE NEED TO REACH DIRECTLY OUT TO THEM. I HAVE NOT SUBMITTED THE THE MOST RECENT LAYOUT YET. WE HAD SOME CHANGES AS RECENT A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, SO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT SHOULD BE GETTING A COPY OF THOSE IF NOT ALREADY. WE'RE HAPPY TO HELP FACILITATE THAT. THANK YOU. I JUST HAD ONE VERY QUICK QUESTION. ONE OF THE ELEMENTS THAT YOU PARTIALLY MEET. IS BICYCLE PARKING. AND I'M JUST WONDERING IF YOU WOULD POINT OUT WHERE BICYCLE PARKING IS LOCATED ON THE SITE, BECAUSE I COULD SEE IT BEING UTILIZED IN THIS CASE. YES. YEAH. WE HAVE TWO LARGE PADS THAT ARE TEN FEET WIDE NEXT TO THE MAIN ENTRANCE OFF THE BATTING CAGE FACILITY. THE GOAL IS TO HAVE A BICYCLE PARKING ON ONE OF THOSE TWO SIDES, AS WELL AS OFF THE TRAINING FACILITYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYD THERE FOR THAT REASON AS WELL, SO I DON'T THINK THEY SHOWED UP IN RENDERINGS, BUT THOSE WERE OUR DESIRED PATHS FOR THOSE.
COULD STAFF EXPAND ON WHY THEY'RE BEING SHOWN AS PARTIALLY MEETS AS OPPOSED TO MEETS? WHAT WAS THE DEFICIENCY THAT I DON'T KNOW IF THEY IF THE PLAN ACTUALLY INCLUDED THE PHYSICAL STRUCTURES, THEY PRESERVE SPACE FOR BICYCLE PARKING. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. IT'S PART OF YOUR THINKING ABOUT THIS. WE'RE HAPPY TO IDENTIFY THOSE ON THE PLAN. AND WE DID DISCUSS IT ABOVE MAKING THE THE SIDEWALK MORE OF A BIKE TRAIL. THERE'S AN AREA THERE FOR IT.
SO WE COULD WIDEN THE THE SIDEWALK TO BE MORE OF A BIKE TRAIL IF IT MADE MORE SENSE. WE JUST WANTED TO SEE WHAT THE NATURE OF COMMENTS WERE. WE DIDN'T WANT TO TAKE OUT GREEN SPACE THAT WE COULD PRESERVE, BUT WE ARE UNDER THE COVERAGE REQUIREMENTS, SO THAT MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A CONNECTION OFF THE NEW TRAIL OUT FRONT AND TAKE IT BACK TO THE BACK OF THE SITE SO THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY GET BIKE TRAIL USERS THERE AS WELL. THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? BACK TO WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT. NOT WE, BUT THE PREVIOUS ONE. ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE ANY KIND OF GAUGE AT THE ENTRANCE THERE? WE ARE NOT PLANNING TO GAUGE THE FACILITY AT ALL. NO. OKAY. THE HOPE WOULD BE THAT WITH IT BEING DESIGNED THE WAY THAT IT IS, THERE'S LIMITED ACCESS ANYHOW AND ALL THE FACILITIES ARE INDOORS, SO EVERYTHING'S NICE AND SECURE. THE BACK FIELD WILL BE FENCED. BUT IN ITSELF, AND WE DID TAKE AWAY THE PERIMETER DRIVE FOR THAT REASON. AND WE WE INTENDED TO NOT OPEN UP ACCESS. GRANTED, WE WERE ABLE TO DOUBLE LOAD THE PARKING LIKE WE DID OUT FRONT IN THE BACK AND THE NEW DESIGN. AND WE THOUGHT THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE MORE CONDUCIVE TO HELP THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S COMMENTS THAT MIGHT COME THROUGH CIRCULATION, BUT IT WOULD ALSO KEEP THE SECURITY OF THE SITE A LITTLE BIT BETTER SO THAT PEOPLE AREN'T DRIVING THROUGH THE BACK PROPERTY LINE. BECAUSE I FIGURED, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, BILHEIMER PARK DOES LOCK THEIR GATES AT NIGHT. YES. YEAH. IF IF IT MAKES SENSE TO GATE IT. I DON'T THINK HE'S AGAINST THAT. DEREK KNAPP'S INTERESTED IN RUNNING THIS FACILITY. HE HE WAS TRYING TO MAKE IT AS EASY AS POSSIBLE TO. I UNDERSTAND SO AND IT IS A FOR PEOPLE TURNING OFF THE ROAD, WE MADE SURE TO TAKE A LOOK AT TRAFFIC IMPACT.
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WE DON'T BELIEVE THIS PARTICULAR TURN LANE AT ALL. BUT THE DISCUSSION WAS WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING. WE'RE TRYING TO MINIMIZE THE THE VISUAL IMPACT OFF THE ROAD AS WELL. SO WE DIDN'T KNOW IF THE GATE WOULD TAKE AWAY FROM THAT VISUAL IMPACT. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ARE WE READY FOR A MOTION? SO FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, JUST I DON'T THINK WE'RE READY TO VOTE ON THIS WITHOUT THIS. I THOUGHT THIS WAS A ACTION. I THOUGHT THE LAST ONE WAS CONCEPTUAL REVIEW REVIEW AND ACTION. THEY'RE BOTH REQUESTING A VOTE. OKAY. THANKS. AND AGAIN WE'RE PLAYING TOWNSHIP. CARE TO TAKE THE LEAD ON THIS. AND IT'S IN PLAIN TOWNSHIP. I THINK WE NEED TO SEE IT AGAIN. OKAY. WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE INFORMATION ON IT BEFORE WE SAY YES. IT'S IT'S GOING TO BE APPROVED. SO COULD WE MAYBE MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS UNTIL COULD JUST PAUSE REAL QUICK? CHRISTINA, IF I FORWARD THIS TO YOU, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO BRING UP THE REVISED. I'LL PUT IT IN THE FOLDER. ON THE SLIDE. SENDING IT NOW. THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO. IF I CAN GET IT INTO THE. I HAVE ENOUGH OUT THERE. AND IN REVIEW OF THE ROCKY FORD ACCORD, NO. PROBLEM. THE DOCUMENT ITSELF. IT. I DON'T SEE THE REQUIREMENT THAT ROADWAYS BE IN AN UNDISTURBED. THERE'S REFERENCE TO A NATURAL STATE OR MAINTAINING THE RURAL CHARACTER. AND THE USE OF. OF MOUNDING ALONG THE ROADWAY IS IS PRETTY PREDOMINANT IN THE BABBITT ROAD CORRIDOR AND OTHER DEVELOPMENT. SO FIVE AND WALNUT STREET ON THE SOUTH SIDE HAS A 250 FOOT UNDISTURBED SETBACK. MIGHT BE MORE. BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT PROBABLY A COUPLE MEETINGS. I ASSUME IF THE ZONING COMMISSION IS. WOULD IT BE SUITABLE TO COME BACK WHEN WE HAVE SOME CERTIFICATION FROM THEM AS WELL? I DIDN'T WANT TO FORCE A VOTE. IF IF WE DO, IF THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO THINK IT'D BE BETTER TO COME BACK. WE ARE ON SCHEDULE TO COME BACK TO PLAIN TOWNSHIP ZONING COMMISSION ON NOVEMBER 12TH. THE ROCKY FORK COURT MEETING WILL BE AFTER THAT. DO THEY TYPICALLY MEET TWICE OR REVIEW APPLICATIONS MORE THAN ONCE, OR IS IT USUALLY ONE MEETING DONE? I KNOW THERE ARE ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS. THAT'S WHY WE WERE SAYING WE KIND OF LIKE TO GET A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL INTO THE BUILDING DESIGN, BUT JUST FEEDBACK BEFORE WE FINALIZE THIS. WELL, YOU'VE GOT A NEW GRAPHIC THERE, SO MAYBE EXPLAIN WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. YEAH, YEAH. CAN YOU MAKE THAT BIGGER? I I'LL SAY IT'S THE DESIGN IS AS A PLAYABLE, THERE'S 25FT OFF THE EASTERN PROPERTY LINE. THAT WAS PART OF THE COMMENT WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD ADEQUATE SETBACK. AND THEN THE PARKING IS SIMILAR, BUT IT'S BEEN PUSHED BACK SO THAT WE CAN MAINTAIN A 250 FOOT SETBACK TO THE FRONT OF THE STRUCTURE. AND THEN, LIKE I SAID, WE ATTACHED THE MULTI-PURPOSE FACILITY TO THE BACK OF THE THE MAIN BATTING CAGE FACILITY AND THEN LOCATED A DUMPSTER LOCATION THERE AS WELL, WITH THE INTEREST TO TRY TO TRY TO BUILD THAT. AND THEN TEMPORARY TURNAROUNDS TO THE APPENDIX D FIRE DEPARTMENT STANDARDS. WE'D LIKE TO MAINTAIN THAT UNTIL THE DEVELOPMENT CONTINUES, BUT IT ALLOWS FOR MINIMAL IMPACT. THAT AREA COULD JUST BE CONTINUED AS AS PHASE TWO GETS, IT STARTED TO BE THE BOTTOM DRAWING. AND AS I INDICATED EARLIER, WE PUT IN A TURNAROUND WITHIN THE PARKING AREA ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE SITE AND TRY TO PUT THE BALL FIELD TO THE BACKSIDE OF ACCESS SO THAT IT COULD BE SEPARATELY SECURED. SO THAT[01:30:04]
ALSO MEETS THE EXPECTATIONS OF THE APPENDIX D FIRE DEPARTMENT STANDARDS. SO WE WERE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD ADEQUATE TURNAROUND. AND THIS DESIGN SEEMED TO WORK A LITTLE BIT BETTER. SO AFTER SEEING BEN'S INITIAL REVIEW COMMENTS, WE THOUGHT THIS WOULD WORK OUT MUCH BETTER FOR THE FOR THE SITE. AND IT ACTUALLY REDUCED THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT AS WELL.IT GAVE US THE SAME, ALMOST THE SAME NUMBER OF BATTING CAGES THAT WE ORIGINALLY HAD DESIGNED ON THAT DESIGN THERE TOWARDS THE CENTER AT THE TOP, I'M GOING TO CALL IT FOR NOTHING ELSE. TWO BEACH TOWELS SITTING UP THERE. WHAT WHAT IS THAT INDICATING? GO ACROSS THE TOP RIGHT IN THE CENTER. YEAH. THOSE ARE THE SEPTIC AREAS. OH, OKAY. SO WE WE HAVE A SEPTIC DESIGN FOR A EQUALIZATION TANK. AND THEN IT COULD BE EASILY CONVERTED TO, TO SANITARY CONNECTION IF WHEN IT BECOMES AVAILABLE. OKAY. THAT SUBJECT AREA, WE TRY TO KEEP IT UPHILL FROM THE PRESENT. AND OUTSIDE OF THAT FRONT YARD AREA. SO I THINK THAT SATISFIES. THE RECORD. I'M GLAD THAT WE SAW THIS PLAN. HONESTLY, THAT'S ALL THAT I WANTED TO SEE. I MEAN, I'D BE READY TO TAKE ACTION ON THIS TONIGHT. OKAY. I WON'T NEED A MOTION. I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE VOTE ON THIS THIS EVENING. SECOND MOTION. MR. CHEVALIER. YES. MR. BILLMAN.
YES. MR. PAUL. YES. MR. HERSKOWITZ, I'M GOING TO SAY NO BECAUSE I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THE SETBACKS OR NO. SORRY, JUST TAKING A NOTE, MR. SMITHERS. YES. MR. HARPER. YES.
MR. BENSON. YES, THE AYES HAVE IT. THE MOTION PASSES WITH SIX VOTES IN FAVOR AND ONE VOTE AGAINST. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT, ONE MORE. THE LAST ONE IS A CONCEPTUAL REVIEW.
IT'S A CITY COLUMBUS APPLICATION TO DEVELOP A MULTI UNIT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY. SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND HAVE THE STAFF WALK US THROUGH AND THEN BRING ON THE APPLICANT. TEST TEST TEST. ALL RIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON. HUNTER FIELD WITH THE CITY OF COLUMBUS PRESENTING TODAY'S CASE LOCATED AT 5481 WALNUT STREET. HERE IS A VIEW OF THE SITE. THE MAJORITY OF THE SITE IS CURRENTLY USED FOR AGRICULTURE WITH ONE SINGLE UNIT RESIDENTIAL LOCATED ON THE PROPERTY. HERE IS A VIEW OF IT WITH THE FLOODWAY OF THE ROCKY FORK CREEK. THE EXISTING ZONING ON SITE IS OUR RURAL. AS A RESULT OF A 2023 ANNEXATION, THE PLANS. LAND USE RECOMMENDATION IS FOR NEIGHBORHOOD WEST VILLAGE STAFF NOTE MULTI-UNIT RESIDENTIAL IS A PERMITTED PERMITTED LAND USE WITHIN WEST VILLAGE NEIGHBORHOOD. HERE'S A VIEW OF THE PROPERTY SOUTHWARD FROM WALNUT STREET. HERE IS THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN EXHIBIT. THE PROPOSED HAMILTON ROAD EXTENSION BISECTS THE SITE INTO TWO NORTH AND SOUTH SECTIONS.
STARTING ON THE NORTH END, THERE'S A PROPOSED 100 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY SETBACK ALONG WALNUT STREET, WITH AN ADDITIONAL 25 FOOT BUILDING AND PARKING SETBACK. A PERIMETER LANDSCAPE BUFFER IS PROPOSED FOR THE ADJACENT HOMES IN THE NORTHWEST SECTION TWO OPEN SPACE CORRIDORS ARE PROPOSED THROUGH THE SITE ON THE SOUTH END. A FOUR STORY HEIGHT ZONE IS PROPOSED ALONG A BOULEVARD ENTRY FROM HAMILTON ROAD. FINALLY, A DETENTION POND IS PROPOSED ADJACENT TO THE ROCKY FORK CREEK. THE SITE PLAN INCLUDES PROPOSED LOCATIONS OF MULTI-UNIT RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS, PARKING CLUBHOUSES, SIDEWALKS AND TRAILS. THE UNIT COUNT PROPOSED IS 1344 UNITS ACROSS FOUR PHASES, AND FOR REFERENCE, HERE IS AN ENLARGED EXHIBIT OF THE TOP SECTION, MIDDLE SECTION AND BOTTOM SECTION. INCLUDED IN THE
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MATERIALS ARE A VARIETY OF RENDERINGS. THIS RENDERING SHOWS THE SOUTHERN HALF OF THE SITE, WITH THE PROPOSED BOULEVARD ENTRY LOCATED IN THE CENTER OF THE IMAGE, WITH THE HAMILTON ROAD EXTENSION AT THE BOTTOM. STAFF'S FEEDBACK IS TO NATURALIZE THE PROPOSED STORMWATER DETENTION FACILITY, A LANDSCAPE PLAN TO REVIEW WITH STREET TREES AND STAFF.ENCOURAGE A MIX OF RESIDENTIAL UNIT TYPOLOGIES. THIS APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED FOR CONCEPTUAL REVIEW. AS SUCH, STAFF IS NOT OFFERING A RECOMMENDATION AT THIS TIME.
OKAY. DO WE HAVE THE APPLICANT? GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS DAVE PERRY. THE APPLICANT WILL BE DAVID ROMA. HE IS NOT ABLE TO BE HERE TODAY. AND I HAVE BEEN RECENTLY HIRED TO HANDLE THE ZONING AND VARIANCE APPLICATIONS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN SUBMITTED YET. BUT WE WE SUBMITTED FOR THIS CONCEPT REVIEW PRELIMINARY REVIEW OF THE BOARD. WE'D LIKE YOUR YOUR INPUT ON THE PROJECT BEFORE THE ZONING APPLICATIONS ARE SUBMITTED. I OF THE THREE OF US HERE TODAY, TODD FERRIS WITH FERRIS PLANNING AND CARTER DEAN ARCHITECTS I AM I AM THE NEWEST OF THE THREE TO THE PROJECT, HAVING BEEN RECENTLY HIRED TO HANDLE THE ZONING APPLICATION. SINCE WE'RE HEADING IN THAT DIRECTION. SO I'D LIKE TO HAVE TODD REVIEW THE LAND PLAN AND CARTER REVIEW THE BUILDING PLACEMENT, ORIENTATION AND ARCHITECTURE.
AND WE VERY MUCH APPRECIATE YOUR FEEDBACK ON ALL OF IT. OKAY. YOU'RE NOT THINKING ABOUT YOU GETTING ALL. FOUR, EIGHT, SEVEN, SIX CEMETERY ROAD. SURE. SO THERE, THE PLAN THAT YOU SAW THAT HAD THE BUILDINGS ON THERE IS, IS A STUDY THAT WE PUT TOGETHER THAT, YOU KNOW, GIVEN THE, THE LARGENESS, I GUESS IS THE CORRECT WORD. THIS PROJECT, KNOWING THAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE SEVERAL YEARS, SOME OF THOSE PRODUCTS MIGHT CHANGE. SO I THINK ULTIMATELY IT'S GOING TO GET PROBABLY ZONED TO A BUBBLE PLAN MORE SO THAN A SITE SPECIFIC PLAN, BECAUSE WE'VE RUN ACROSS THIS ALREADY IN ANOTHER PROJECT THAT DAVID HAS DONE IN, IN COLUMBUS AS WELL, WHERE THE PRODUCT HAS CHANGED SIGNIFICANTLY OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS SINCE IT'S BEEN DONE. BUT IN A NUTSHELL, WE'RE DEALING WITH WITH THE HAMILTON ROAD EXTENSION. AND IF YOU GUYS REMEMBER, WE WERE LOOKING AT THIS SITE, I THINK AT THE LAST MEETING THAT WAS WITH METRO DEVELOPMENT. I GET TO REPRESENT BOTH. BUT ANYWAY, SO HAMILTON ROAD IS IS ENVISIONED TO GO THROUGH HERE. I KNOW THE STUDY IS STILL HAVING A STUDY RIGHT NOW THAT THAT IS THE FINAL DETERMINATION OF THAT ROADWAY. AND WE'VE LOOKED AT IT IN SEVERAL DIFFERENT CONFIGURATIONS, AND IT JUST MOVES IT NORTH TO SOUTH A LITTLE BIT, BUT IT REALLY DOESN'T AFFECT THE UNIT COUNT ON THE SITE. ONE OF THE COMMITMENTS THAT THAT WE'RE MAKING, AND IT REALLY RELATES BACK TO THE COLUMBUS STANDARDS AND, AND THE, THE NEW GUIDANCE THAT THEY HAVE WITH THE DESIGN IS TO, TO LINE HAMILTON ROAD WITH THE BUILDINGS FROM THE ARCHITECTURE TOWARDS THE ROADWAY LANDSCAPE THAT WITH THE STREET TREES, WHICH HUNTER SAID, YOU KNOW, THEY WANT SOME, SOME, SOME IDEA OF STREET TREES AND THOSE COMMITMENTS AS WELL, WHICH WE'LL CERTAINLY PROVIDE WITH PARKING BEHIND. SO, SO WE REALLY GET A PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED AND ARCHITECTURALLY ORIENTED HAMILTON ROAD. SO THAT'S IN THE PROPOSAL AND THE ZONING TEXT THAT WILL BE SUBMITTED TO THE CITY. LIKEWISE, WHEN WE GET UP HERE TO WALNUT ROAD, SIMILAR CONTEXT UP THERE, BOTH OF THESE FRONTAGES WILL HAVE BIKE PATHS. I BELIEVE THE COUNTY WANTS A BIKE PATH OR MULTI-USE PATH IS WHAT THEY CALL ALONG THE NORTH AND THEN ALONG HAMILTON ROAD. MY GUESS IS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A BIKE PATH ON ONE SIDE AND A SIDEWALK ON THE OTHER, IN ADDITION TO JUST THE THE GENERAL OUTLINES THAT ARE HERE. WE'VE MADE SOME COMMITMENTS DOWN ON THE SOUTHERN PORTION WHERE WE HAVE SINGLE FAMILY THAT ONLY GARAGES ARE. ONE STORY BUILDINGS WILL BE LOCATED ON THERE AS A BUFFER AND A TRANSITION FROM THAT. AS WE GET INTO THREE STORY BUILDINGS MAXIMUM INSIDE THE SITE AND THESE GENERAL. I GUESS THAT'S A BLUE COLOR. WHEN WE GET INTO THIS CENTRAL AREA WITH THE PINK. DAVID WANTS TO HAVE
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THE ABILITY TO POTENTIALLY GO TO FOUR STORY TO CREATE EVEN MORE OF A SPECTACULAR ENTRANCE INTO TO THE FIRST TWO PHASES OF THIS PROJECT. SO IF YOU SEE THESE DIFFERENT COLORS THAT ARE ON HERE, THOSE REPRESENT THE DIFFERENT OPEN SPACE COMMITMENTS THAT WE'RE MAKING FOR THIS PROJECT GREEN, WHICH WE SHOULD HAVE PUT GREEN ON WHERE THE ORANGE WAS. THE GREEN IS PRIVATELY OPEN SPACE. THAT THAT IS THE OPEN SPACE THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT INTERIOR TO OUR PROJECT THAT WILL BE MAINTAINED BY, BY ROMA AND, AND OR SUCCESSORS. AND THAT WOULD CONTAIN THE LARGE POND AREA, THE BOULEVARD, THE LARGE GREEN AREA THAT YOU SAW IN THE PERSPECTIVE THAT CARTER PUT TOGETHER, AS WELL AS SOME OTHER PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS THROUGHOUT THE SITE NORTH OF US, AS A SIDE NOTE, IS THE METROPARKS. SO SO THERE'S, WE SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE WANTING TO GO UP THERE. THIS PORTION THAT IS IN ORANGE WOULD BE LAND THAT WOULD BE DEDICATED TO CITY OF COLUMBUS. AND WE KNOW THAT THEY'RE INTERESTED IN THE RIPARIAN CORRIDORS DOWN HERE. AND IT ALSO GIVES THEM THE ABILITY TO CONNECT TO THE METRO PARK THROUGH THE SITE. AND WE WOULDN'T HAVE ANY ROADWAY CONNECTIONS OTHER THAN HAMILTON ROAD THROUGH THAT AREA. SO AGAIN, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF OPEN SPACE IN HERE AND WORK THROUGH THE PLAN TO DEAL WITH THAT. ALSO PROPOSING THE BUFFERS AROUND THESE TWO EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT ARE HERE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE SITE WITH, WITH THE BUFFER TREATMENT THAT WE PUT TOGETHER ALREADY. AND WE'LL SUPPLEMENT THAT AGAIN WITH THE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS THAT THE CITY HAD. I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE ANYTHING REALLY MORE TO TO ADD TO THE SITE PLAN THAN THAT, UNLESS WE GOT INTO THE AGAIN, THE, THE, THE DETAILED SITE PLAN. BUT RIGHT NOW, I DON'T THINK IT REALLY, REALLY MEANS MUCH TO GET INTO THAT EXISTING TREES. IF YOU SAW I HEARD THIS, THIS, THIS WHAT SOMEBODY CALLED IT THE OTHER DAY, IT'S AGGRESSIVELY FARMED. THERE'S VERY FEW TREES THAT ARE ON THIS SITE. IT'S TREE ROWS. SOMEBODY REALLY IS TRYING TO GET IN OFF OF HERE. THERE'S THREE ROWS ALONG THE SOUTH, THERE'S SOME AROUND THE HOMESTEAD, BUT REALLY IT'S THE VOID OF EXISTING VEGETATION. SO SO WHAT WE'RE PRESERVING IS, IS REALLY THE SITES OF THAT. THAT'S KIND OF IN A NUTSHELL, WHAT WE HAVE FROM, FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THE SITE. IF YOU WANT TO TALK ARCHITECTURE. CARTER REED ARCHITECTS, 2231 FLOYD ROAD, OHIO. THE MIX OF BUILDINGS, YOU KNOW, THE GARAGES, THE THREE STORY BUILDINGS, THE FOUR STORY BUILDINGS, THE THREE STORY BUILDINGS WHICH PREDOMINANTLY POPULATE THE SITE ARE STANDARD WALKUP, OPEN BREEZEWAY APARTMENT BUILDINGS, WHICH WOULD BE TRADITIONALLY DESIGNED WITH PITCHED ROOFS. SO YOU CAN SEE EXAMPLES OF THOSE ON THE RIGHT. THIS IS THE BOULEVARD THAT'S BEING DISCUSSED AND THE L-SHAPE OF POTENTIAL FOUR STORY REQUESTING AT THE VARIETY HERE TO ESSENTIALLY ESTABLISH THAT CORRIDOR. THIS WAS AN IMPORTANT IMAGE PUT TOGETHER BECAUSE IF YOU ADD UP THE THREE STORY HEIGHT OF A TYPICAL WALKUP BUILDING AND THE PITCHED ROOF AND A FLAT ROOF COMPOSITION OF THE FOUR STORY, THEY'RE REALLY PRETTY EQUAL IN, IN, IN OVERALL HEIGHT. NOW, I UNDERSTAND THE GROUPS, YOU KNOW, SLIPPING WAY YOU GET THAT PERCEPTION OF OF LESS MASS, BUT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A REAL DRASTIC CHANGE IN THE OVERALL HEIGHT AND MASS OF THESE BUILDINGS.THE FOUR STORY BUILDINGS THAT WERE REQUESTED OR THE ZONE THAT WE'RE REQUESTING DOES HAPPEN, JUST COMPLETELY CENTRAL TO THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT. SO IT'S A WAY THAT THE EDGES, OF COURSE, WE HAVE THE BASIN THAT'S IN THE BACK, MORE DEDICATED GREEN SPACE THAT THAT WILL CONTINUE TO THE NORTH. AND OF COURSE, THE LARGE OPEN SPACE THAT'S BEING PROPOSED AT THE ENTRY HERE. AND THE LAST CONVERSATION I HAD WITH DAVID, I THINK THE PLAN IS THAT A ROUNDABOUT AROUND THIS AREA RIGHT HERE WOULD BECOME A ROUNDABOUT, WHICH ALLOWS THE ROUTING OF NORTH HAMILTON TO HERE, OUT TO THE EAST SOONER. YEAH. AND SO THAT'D BE A PUBLIC ROAD ROUNDABOUT. YES. THIS ROAD RIGHT HERE THAT GOES INTO THIS IS PRIVATE, BUT IT WOULD COME OFF OF THE OF THE ROUNDABOUT THAT THAT'S PUBLIC. SO HAMILTON IS THE I GUESS THE. COMING
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TOWARDS US. TO. A QUICK QUESTION ON THE LAST SLIDE, IF I COULD, I THOUGHT I UNDERSTOOD YOU TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT STREET TREES, AND I WAS THINKING YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT ALONG HAMILTON. I'M NOT SEEING ANY STREET TREES ALONG HAMILTON HERE. IS THAT. THAT'S RIGHT.THERE YOU GO. ALL RIGHT. IT'S ALL A QUESTION OF PERSPECTIVE. ALRIGHT, I GOT YOU. THIS IS BY NO MEANS THE FINAL ITERATION, BUT IT'S IT'S JUST YOU, YOU JUST RECEIVED A HINT OF SOMETHING. ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. OKAY. YOUR INTENTION WOULD BE TO HAVE SOME KIND OF STREET TREE TREATMENT. YEAH, I MEAN THIS. RIGHT AWAY ALSO. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANOTHER ITEM YOU CAN SEE IN THIS PARTICULAR VIEW ARE TWO CLUBHOUSES. THE FIRST PHASE WOULD BE EVERYTHING TO THE SOUTH OF THIS CENTRAL BOULEVARD AREA. SO THE CLUBHOUSE HERE WOULD BE CONSTRUCTED OUT OF THE GATE. AND THE IDEA IS TO, YOU KNOW, REALLY PROVIDE A LOT OF GREAT AMENITIES FOR THE RESIDENTS IN THAT PARTICULAR FACILITY, INCLUDING INDOOR POOL, I BELIEVE. SO THE NORTH BUILDING, WHICH WILL DUPLICATE SOME OF THOSE FUNCTIONS, I WOULD IMAGINE, WILL HAVE SOME SOME ADDITIONAL DOWN THE ROAD TO SERVE, YOU KNOW, FUTURE RESIDENTS. THERE'S PROBABLY TWO MORE CLUBHOUSES WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT THAN THE OTHER TWO THINGS. I SEE A HINT OF A GARAGE, I THINK, ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE. AND I THINK, TODD, MAYBE YOU MENTIONED GARAGE UNITS. IS THAT RIGHT? YEAH. THAT'S NOT ONE OF THE WHERE THE UNITS WOULD BE ADJACENT TO THE OTHER PEOPLE WOULD ACTUALLY BE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE SLIDE. YEAH.
THERE ARE. THAT'S NOT. THERE ARE SOME GARAGES DOWN HERE. YEAH. AND THOSE ARE SINGLE BAY DEPTH. SO THEY'RE THEY'RE VERY SMALL STRUCTURES. THERE ARE SOME OTHERS THAT ARE THAT ARE DOUBLE BAY WITHIN THE CITY GHT RESTRICTION. WHAT WAS IT YOU WERE SHOWING THE ROUNDABOUT.
ROUNDABOUT WOULD BE WELL RIGHT. OKAY. OR WILL BE I BELIEVE IT'S PROCESS. DO YOU KNOW WHEN HAMILTON MEETS UP WITH WALNUT? WILL THAT ALSO BE A ROUNDABOUT OR WILL THAT JUST BE A EXCHANGE? THAT'S. WE TALKED ABOUT ON THE OTHER PROJECT. THEY DIDN'T THINK THEY WANTED AROUND ABOUT THAT ANYMORE. OKAY. BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY WON'T, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THEY PURCHASED THE SITE SERVICE STATION OR. AUTO FACILITY THAT THEY PURCHASED THAT. SO THE ONE IAN FLEMING, ETHAN FLEMING YEAH, IT'S EATON PLUMBING. SO. I THINK. IF ALL THIS STUFF HAPPENS. LAST YEAR. THERE'LL BE THREE ROUNDABOUTS. IF THIS GOES FORWARD IN LIKE LESS THAN A MILE. ROUNDABOUT, ROUNDABOUT, A ROUNDABOUT. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. I THINK THE LAST THING YOU PRESENTED TO US, WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT WE'RE NOT CONCERNED. WE'RE CURIOUS ABOUT WHEN THIS EXTENSION MIGHT BE APPROVED. EASIER TO UNDERSTAND THIS IF IT'S ACTUALLY GETS APPROVED OR IT'S GOT THE PLAN GOING FORWARD. IS THAT CHANGED. SO DATE. SO I DON'T TALK TO THE CITY DIRECTLY, BUT I HEAR THROUGH PEOPLE THEY MAY HAVE HIRED CONSULTANTS TO FINALIZE THE ALIGNMENT OF HAMILTON ROAD. OKAY. SO THERE ARE BROUGHT ON THE ROUNDABOUT AS A SOLUTION TO HELP. IF THIS OCCURS THROUGH, COME OUT OF THE RIGHT LOCATION. SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BY NOW LIKE LAST MONTH. BUT. I THINK THE EXPECTATIONS ARE THAT THE IMPACT WOULD DO THAT EXTENSION AS PART OF THE OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. NOW, ONE OF OUR AUDIENCE
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MEMBERS, I RECALL YOU HAD A LITTLE NOTCH IN THAT. YOUR PROPERTY IS YOUR MOTHER'S PROPERTY WAS PART OF THAT. THE OTHER SIDE? YEAH, IT WAS FROM LAST MEETING, BUT I, I RECOGNIZE YOU FROM LAST TIME. YEAH. OKAY. SO WE STILL DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT STREET'S GOING TO GO, SO WE NEED TO KNOW. YEAH, I, I APPRECIATE THAT AND I DON'T KNOW, JUST FOR THE RECORD, FOR THE RECORD STAFF ALSO DOES NOT KNOW. OKAY. OKAY. BUT I AM GLAD YOU CAME BACK. AND CERTAINLY IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE WELCOME TO ANSWER OR ASK, ARE YOU? YEAH.LAST TIME SHE HAS A PROPERTY, AN INHERITED PROPERTY, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. AND THERE MAY OR MAY NOT BE A ROAD CUTTING IT OFF AND YOU'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO WITH THAT PROPERTY. AND THAT'S HISTORICAL. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT THE. AND I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A SAY IN THAT. RIGHT, RIGHT. BUT DEFINITELY ENCOURAGE YOU TO, YOU KNOW, COME AND AS OFTEN AS YOU'D LIKE TO HEAR WHAT'S GOING ON. SO. I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS IF I MIGHT. DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE DIAMETER OF THE GAS PIPE THAT'S RUNNING THROUGH YOUR PROPERTY IS THE SIZE OF THAT. I, I DON'T KNOW, OKAY. I THINK IT'S RELATIVELY RELATIVELY SIGNIFICANT. ALSO, I REALIZE THIS THIS PROPERTY AND THE ONE NEXT TO IT THAT THE LADY'S MOTHER LIVED IN HAS A WHOLE LOT OF THINGS CAUSING PROBLEMS FOR A LAND DEVELOPER. YOU GOT TWO SETS OF HIGH TENSION POWER LINES. YOU GOT A GAS LINE GOING THROUGH THE PROPERTY, AND YOU'VE GOT ROCKY FORK CREEK RUNNING THROUGH THE PROPERTY, WHICH MAKES THINGS REALLY CONFUSED WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO LAY OUT BUILDINGS IN A ORDERLY FASHION. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. IS THERE ANY WAY, AND YOU SAID THAT YOU WERE ALSO WORKING WITH THE OTHER PEOPLE ON ON THAT? IS THERE ANY WAY TO MAKE BOTH PROPERTIES MORE LOGICALLY LAID OUT FOLLOWING HAMILTON ROAD? IF YOU DID LIKE A SQUARE FOOT FOR SQUARE FOOT LAND SWAP TO MAKE THE PROPERTY LINES FOLLOW THE ROAD MORE THAN JUST HERE'S A STRAIGHT LINE, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE PROPERTY LINE WAS 100 YEARS AGO. IS THERE IS THERE ANYTHING LIKE THAT THAT COULD BE BE WORKED OUT TO MAKE BOTH PROJECTS MORE LOGICAL? NO PERSONALITIES THAT ARE DEALING WITH MORE THAN THAT'S TOO BAD. DOESN'T MEAN THAT I WON'T TALK TO THEM. I. AND ANOTHER THING THAT I WILL MENTION IN THIS MEETING, AND THAT IS THE LITTLE HOUSE RIGHT UP THERE. IT'S NOT ON THIS MAP HERE, BUT IT'S ALSO CUT OUT OF THE OTHER PROPERTY YOU'RE WORKING ON. IT'S A LITTLE BRICK BUILDING. THE SCHOOLHOUSE. I LOOKED IT UP ON THE MAP THE OTHER DAY, AND ACCORDING TO THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE, IT WAS BUILT IN SO THAT MAY BE A HISTORICAL FEATURE FOR BOTH OF YOUR PROPERTIES OR BUT I DON'T I DON'T THINK THAT SHOULD IT SHOULD BE TORN DOWN WITHOUT EVEN BEING EVALUATED AS TO ITS SIGNIFICANCE IN THE AREA WE'RE WORKING ON. A SIMILAR BUILDING AS AN OLD BRICK SCHOOL HOUSE.
AND ACTUALLY. IT, IT MIGHT. AND THAT THAT WOULD BE A WORTHWHILE SITUATION. BUT THEN YOU WOULD ALSO HAVE TO CONVINCE THE PEOPLE OVER THERE THAT IT SHOULD BE A COFFEE SHOP. YEAH, YEAH. BUT, BUT I, I, I THINK IT SHOULD BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN YOU'RE DOING ALL THIS WORK AROUND THEM, I THINK I DON'T REMEMBER EXACTLY, BUT I THINK THEY ONLY HAVE A HALF AN ACRE THERE. SO HERE YOU'RE TALKING 85 ON THIS SIDE AND WHAT 37 ON THE OTHER SIDE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YEAH. SO YOU'RE YOU'RE TALKING A WHOLE LOT OF PROPERTY THERE FOR HALF AN ACRE. BUT I DO THINK ONE WAY OR ANOTHER IT SHOULD BE PRESERVED EVEN IF IT'S RELOCATED. IS IT A RESIDENCE NOW? YES. OKAY. THERE'S ALSO BEEN SOME ADDITIONS PUT ON TO
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IT, BUT THOSE ARE NOT OF HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE. BUT IN PLAIN TOWNSHIP, WAY BACK WHEN THEY HAD BASICALLY A ONE ROOM SCHOOLHOUSE FOR EVERY SQUARE MILE. AND THIS ONE AND THERE'S ONE DOWN ON KITZMILLER ROAD ARE THE ONLY TWO THAT I THINK ARE STILL EXISTING. SO MAYBE PLAIN TOWNSHIP, NEW ALBANY THINKS THEY ONLY NEED ONE. I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE THEY NEED ANOTHER COFFEE SHOP. LET'S SEE IF THERE WAS ANYTHING ELSE I WANTED TO MENTION. OH, SO WHAT IS THE SETBACK ON WALNUT STREET? BECAUSE THEN THE PREVIOUS DEAL, THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT A 250 FOOT SETBACK, BUT THAT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE ANYTHING NEAR 250. SO WHAT DID YOU USE AS A GOVERNING DEAL SITTING BACK THERE. IS 25.77 AS CLOSE TO THE AS POSSIBLE. 25 FOR THE. 120 I THOUGHT I READ. YEAH, IT'S 100 HUNDRED FEET FOR THE RIGHT OF WAY. AND THEN PLUS THE 25 FOOT BUILDING IN THE PARKING SETBACK. SO TOGETHER IT'S 125. OKAY. SO IT'S IT'S BASICALLY A 2020 FOOT SETBACK FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY. 2525 FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY. THAT'S CLOSE. YEAH. THAT MESSES UP THE CORRIDOR.DO OKAY. I THINK THOSE ARE MY ONLY COMMENTS THAT I HAD WITH, WITH LOOKING AT IT.AND I, I CERTAINLY SYMPATHIZE WITH YOU WITH HAVING TWO HIGH TENSION POWER LINES IN A GAS LINE. AND ONE OF THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS I WAS I HAVE PROBLEMS WITH GAS LINES GOING ACROSS THE PROPERTIES WITH APARTMENTS CLOSE BY, AND I. I'VE SAID IT BEFORE FOR THESE PEOPLE, BUT YOU MAY NOT KNOW IT. WHEN I WAS A TEENAGER LIVING IN THE AREA, THAT ONE MEETING PIPELINE THAT GOES WHERE THE ACE HARDWARE STORE IS THERE ON CENTRAL COLLEGE. WE LIVED RIGHT THERE.
THE ACE HARDWARE STORE WAS PART OF THE FARM. ANYWAY, AT ABOUT 1:00 IN THE MORNING, 130, 2:00, SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE, WE JUST GOT BACK FROM HORSE SHOW, AND THAT GAS LINE BLEW UP ABOUT A MILE, MILE AND A HALF DOWN THE ROAD JUST SOUTH OF WARNER ROAD, AND IT HAD A FLAME 75FT IN THE AIR. AND IT, IT HAD A HUGE HOLE IN THE GROUND. SO I GET LITTLE JERKY ABOUT PUTTING THAT MANY.
HOMES, RESIDENCES. YOU KNOW, THAT CLOSE TO A GAS LINE. SO YOU MAY WANT TO CHECK ON THE DIAMETER OF IT BECAUSE THAT THAT WAS AN 18 INCH AND THEY UPGRADED IT TO A 20 INCH. AND THEN THEY REROUTED ONE OF THE LINES OUT OF THAT GAS HOUSE RIGHT THERE ON CENTRAL COLLEGE, TOOK IT DOWN. CENTRAL COLLEGE, WENT ON A DIAGONAL UP THROUGH OVER TO WESTERVILLE. SO IT'S THE MAIN LINE GOING FROM THERE OVER INTO WESTERVILLE. SO IT'S PROBABLY A PRETTY GOOD SIZE. I DON'T REMEMBER NOW WHAT IT WAS WHEN THEY DID IT, BUT IT'S SIGNIFICANT. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE WHAT YOU NEED FROM US? IT FELT IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT WE NEED TO KNOW KNOW. SO YEAH, THIS IS FACT FINDING FOR US SO WE CAN GO BACK, YOU KNOW, DEVELOP THINGS FURTHER. YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THAT YOU WANT TO SEE. SO MAYBE AS A, AS A RECAP, MAYBE ANOTHER ARTIST RENT OR, OR A RENDERING THAT SHOWS THE TREES, MAYBE A, A PLAN THAT HELPS US UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENS WITH THAT GAS LINE.
WHAT ARE THE SAFETY REQUIREMENTS? WHERE IS IT? HOW BIG IS IT? I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON ANY OF THAT STUFF, BUT I RESPECT MY COLLEAGUES. SO I WOULD WANT TO JUST SEE SEE HOW THAT LOOKS. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE LIGHTING WOULD BE OF INTEREST. AND HOPEFULLY THE ROAD IS GOING TO. AND I THINK THE LAST TIME WE REVIEWED SOMETHING LIKE THIS NEAR THERE, THE ISSUE ALSO WAS THE WATER AND SEWER. SO WE PROBABLY WOULD NEED TO SO KNOW WHERE THAT'S GOING TO GO,
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HOW IT'S GOING TO GO. THE COLUMBUS PLAN FOR IT. YOU SAID THAT WOULD BE THE HARD PART. SO IT STILL REMAINS THE HARD PART. YEAH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. OKAY. I THINK THE THE LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA WE ALREADY TOOK CARE OF. SO YEAH. SO I THINK WE WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT. I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION TO ADJOURN. THANK YOU. I'LL SECOND. I'M SORRY. WHO IS THE SECOND HERKOWITZ. OH THANK YOU, MR. BILLMAN. YES. MR. HERSKOWITZ YES. MR. PAUL. YES. MR. BENSON. YES. HARPER. YES. MR. CHEVALIER. YES. AND MR. MR.* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.