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ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING. I THINK WE CAN START SINCE MR BROWN IS NOT GOING TO BE HERE. OKAY WITH EVERYBODY. SMELLS OKAY. THANK YOU. CALL THIS. THANK YOU FOR ASKING MEETING OF THE NEW ALBANY ARCHITECTS REVIEW BOARD TOGETHER. HERE FOR FEBRUARY. 13TH. 2023. MAY OKAY. PLEASE GET A ROLL CALL. MR HENSON HERE, MR EATON HERE. MR BROWN. MR MALIN'S HERE. MS MOORE HERE MR STROLLER HERE. I HAVE FIVE MEMBERS PRESENT. WE HAVE A QUORUM. THANK YOU AT THIS TIME. I'D LIKE TO
[III. Action on minutes]
SEE IF ANYONE HAS AN ACTION ON THE MINUTES OF THE JANUARY 9TH 2023 MEETING. I HAVE A COMMENT.ANYBODY ELSE HAVE A COMMENT? THANK YOU. IT'S GREAT. SO IN THE MINUTES OF THE MINUTES ACCURATELY REFLECT OUR MOTION ON THE APPROVAL OF THE GARAGE IN LOOKING AT THE ATTACHMENTS TO THE MINUTES SPECIFICALLY THE DECISION AND RECORD OF ACTION. I SEE THAT THE CONDITION OF APPROVAL THAT WAS STATED IN THIS DOCUMENT. REPEATS THE CONDITION OF APPROVAL ON THE DEMOLITION OF PARKING GARAGES FOR THE POLICE. AND DOESN'T PERIOD DOES NOT HAVE THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL IN THE MINUTES. SO I WOULD ASSUME THAT WE MAY NEED STAFF MAY NEED TO RE ISSUE WE'RE MEN, THE DECISION AND RECORD OF ACTION TO ALIGN THOSE TWO YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? IF YOU LOOK AT THE MILITARY HAVE THREE CONDITIONS, LIGHTING PLAN LANDSCAPE PLAN AND THE SENATE REBATES WE MADE MORE PROMINENT WHEREAS IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF DECISION RECORD OF ACTION, IT SAYS CONDITIONAL APPROVAL. POLICE DEPARTMENT GARAGE LANDSCAPE PLAN ANY ARCHITECTURAL MEDICATION MUST BE. IT'S THE WRONG ONE. THEY WAITING, WAITING TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING.
PERSON'S FAULT. WE CAN BLAME HIM BECAUSE HE'S NOT. THE ANSWER IS YES OR WHETHER IT IS OR NOT.
OBVIOUSLY WE CAN DEFINITELY MAKE SURE THAT THOSE TWO THINGS ALIGN . MY MAIN COMMENT IS MAKE SURE THAT THIS DECISION AND RECORD OF ACTION ALLIANCE FOR THE MINUTES WHICH IS THE ACTION OF THE BOARD. WITH WITH THAT? THAT'S THE ONLY THING I HAVE, AND I'M READY TO MOVE APPROVAL. IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS SOMETHING SO I WOULD MOVE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. AS IN TO THE EXTENT THAT DECISION OF RECORD OF ACTION ON THE PUBLIC PARKING GARAGE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS IS AMENDED TO REFLECT WHAT THE MINUTES PROVIDE. PERIOD. SECOND. MR EATON? YES, MR HENSON? YES MR STRAHL. ER, I'M STAYING. MS MOORE? YES. MR MALLETS? YES. I HAVE FOUR VOTES TO APPROVE THE MINUTES. THANK YOU. AH STAFF. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO THE AGENDA? NONE FROM STAFF. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM, IF THERE'S ANYONE HERE WOULD LIKE TO COLLECT TO ADMINISTER THE OATH TO ALL WITNESSES THAT APPLICANTS AND STAFF WHO PLAN TO ADDRESS THIS BOARD THIS EVENING. SEEM DONE. AND SEEING THAT WE HAVE NO CASES. I'LL MOVE TO
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OTHER BUSINESS. WHICH IS THE NEW ALBANY SOLAR INITIATIVES. BEST PRACTICES REPORT. THANKS SO TONIGHT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE OF FOCUS GROUPS, STYLE OF DISCUSSION. SO WE HAVE ANNA VANISH LOG WITH US TONIGHT. SO SHE IS A PLANER WITH THE CITY. YOUR NAME RIGHT SO AND, UM PREDOMINANTLY STAFFS ARE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD AND IDEA ADVISORY GROUP. UM AND SHE ALSO HELPS OUT WITH OUR SPECIAL PROJECTS. AND SO ANNA HAS TAKEN THE LEAD ON A SOLAR CODE. UPDATE SO THEY'RE PANEL CODE UPDATES THAT WE HAVE KICKED OFF THIS YEAR AND WE HOPE TO COMPLETE AS WELL. SO ANNA'S GONNA TAKE YOU THROUGH THIS BEST PRACTICES REPORT THAT WE HAVE PREPARED BY OUR CONSULTANTS CSK . SO THIS IS NOT THE CODE UPDATE ITSELF. THIS IS JUST THE BEST PRACTICES REPORT THAT STAFF FOR USE TO GUIDE US WHEN DOING THE CODE. UPDATES. AND SO WE HAVE STARTED TAKING THIS TO VARIOUS BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS SO WE CAN GET A FULL PERSPECTIVE OF OPINIONS AND COMMENTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS. WE'VE LAST MONTH WENT TO THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD, AND WE'VE PROVIDED A SUMMARY OF THEIR COMMENTS FOR YOU JUST FOR YOUR RECORDS SO YOU CAN SEE UM AND THEN AFTER TONIGHT'S MEETING, WE'RE GOING TO GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. UM TO GET THEIR FEEDBACK AND COMMENTS AS WELL, AND OUR PLAN IS TO START[00:05:07]
DRAFTING THIS CODE THIS THIS SPRING AND THEN START WORK SHOPPING IT PROBABLY THIS SUMMER AS WELL. SO BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR THAT CODE UPDATES. SO THIS BEST PRACTICE REPORT AND IT'S GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS AND PROVIDE SOME BACKGROUND ON WHY WE'RE DOING IT AND THE REPORT ITSELF. TONIGHT SPECIFICALLY, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. IS YOUR FEEDBACK ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS SECTION, SO THOSE REPORT HAS A LOT OF BACKGROUND AND RESEARCH THAT HAS RESULTED IN ITS RECOMMENDATIONS. AND IT'S SPECIFICALLY THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WILL TRULY , UM DRIVE OUR CODE UPDATES AND SO MORE THAN, AND WE WELCOME MORE ANY FEEDBACK, ANY ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK YOU HAVE ON THE WHOLE PLAN. BUT SPECIFICALLY , WE WOULD LIKE YOUR COMMENTS ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS. THESE ARE SPECIFICALLY RECOMMENDATIONS NEAR THE END. IS THAT CORRECT? THERE ARE A HANDFUL OF RECOMMENDATIONS THROUGHOUT THE REPORT. OKAY, SO IT'S NOT JUST THE DRAFT RECOMMENDATIONS FOR SOLAR TRANSIT THERE. IT'S FALCONS CORRECT. GOT IT? ALL RIGHT. I HAVE LOTS. AND SO WITH THAT YET FEEL FREE TO ESTABLISH THAT ANY TIME WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AGAIN, WE WANT THIS TO BE A DISCUSSION, SO FEEL FREE TO CHIME IN. JUST START WHEN YOU SAID YOU WERE GOING TO WORK SHOPPING. WHAT DOES WORKSHOP WHAT IS THE VERB WORKSHOP MEANS IN THAT CONTEXT, SO WHEN THE CO CODE UPDATES THEMSELVES DO HAVE A APPROVAL PROCESS, SO ANY CODE UPDATE TESTICLE BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THEN TO CITY COUNCIL, HOWEVER, FOR CERTAIN CODE UPDATES WHERE IT CAN HAVE COMMUNITY WIDE. IMPACTS AND CERTAINLY, UM, ARCHITECTURE VIEW BOARD REVIEWS ALL DEVELOPMENTS WITHIN THE VILLAGE CENTER. WE HAVE TAKEN IT TWO MORE WORKSHOPS, SO YOU GUYS WOULDN'T HAVE A FORMAL LIKE REVIEW BUT CERTAINLY WANT TO PROVIDE AN ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITY TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK. ONCE IT TAKES MORE OF THE FORM OF CODE. THIS IS PURELY JUST LIKE THE STARTING POINTS. THE CHALLENGE. WE ASKED OURSELVES, YOU KNOW, AND I'LL TAKE YOU THROUGH. THIS IS HOW DO YOU WRITE A CODE FOR SOMETHING THAT SEEMS TO BE ALWAYS EVOLVING, RIGHT AND TECHNOLOGY DRIVEN? AND SO THAT'S WHY WE ASKED OUR URBAN DESIGN CONSULTANTS TO PROVIDE THE BEST PRACTICES REPORT GIVE US AND OUR BOARDS AND GUIDANCE. UM WHEN WRITING THIS CODE UPDATE. THANK YOU. I'LL HAND IT OVER TO ANNA AND SHE'LL TAKE YOU THROUGH. THIS BEST PRACTICES REPORT. RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND I KNOW WITH NO AGENDA ITEMS. I JUST APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND WELCOMING ME AND HEARING ME OUT FOR THIS PRESENTATION. UM SO THIS IS AN OVERVIEW OF THE REPORT. WE DO I BELIEVE HAVE TWO EXTRA COPIES. IF SOMEONE JUST WANTS TO PAGE THREE, OR IF YOU WANT TO SHARE IN THE BACK, MAYBE CHELSEA YOU CAN HAND THOSE OVER OVER A FEW. IF THEY WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT HIM, UM SO. OVERVIEW OF THE REPORT IS HERE. THIS IS KIND OF ALSO THE FRAMEWORK FOR WHAT I'LL BE GOING THROUGH TONIGHT AND WE'LL START WITH REVIEWING KIND OF THE IMPETUS FOR THE RESEARCH AS WELL AS WHAT WE HOPE TO GET OUT OF THE PROCESS. WE'LL DISCUSS RELEVANT LEGISLATION THAT IMPACTS SOLAR ENERGY AND SOLAR PANEL INSTALLATION TODAY AND HOW THAT KIND OF PLAYED A ROLE IN, UM PUSHING US TOWARDS THIS NOW. UM . WILL REVIEW DIFFERENT TYPES OF SOLAR INSTALLATIONS AND ASSOCIATED TRENDS OR ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY. AND REALLY THE BULK OF THE REPORTS AND RESEARCH SENATOR AROUND PEER COMMUNITIES AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING TO REGULATE SOLAR. UM THINKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, NOT JUST HOW THEY REGULATE IT. BUT WHAT DO THEY REGULATE? ACTUALLY UM, AND THEN WE'LL GO THROUGH NEXT STEPS FOR THE CITY. SO THE IMPETUS FOR THIS PROJECT REALLY CAME FROM A FEW SOURCES WITH THE FIRST AND PRIMARY SOURCE BEING THE ENGAGEMENT ALBANY STRATEGIC PLAN. AND THERE ARE SEVERAL RECOMMENDATIONS CENTERED AROUND, YOU KNOW, GREEN BUILDING RESILIENCE, SUSTAINABILITY, BUT ALSO MAINTAINING THE CITY'S AESTHETIC CHARACTER. UM SO LOOKING AT RECOMMENDATION S TWO FROM THE SUSTAINABILITY CHAPTER, SAYS FOSTER AND ENCOURAGE THE ADOPTION OF ALTERNATIVE ENERGY SOURCES WITHIN THE CITY. SPECIFICALLY PROMOTE THE USE OF SOLAR PANELS. AND GEOTHERMAL SYSTEMS AND ADJUST THE CITY REGULATIONS APPROPRIATELY. SO HERE WE ARE, BEGINNING THAT STEP TO LOOK AT SOLAR PANELS AND WHAT IS THE RIGHT WAY TO REGULATE THEM? CURRENT LAYER ZONING CODE IS SILENT ON SOLAR PANELS. IT'S LISTED AS A AS A MINOR, UM WHAT'S THE WORD? I'M LOOKING FOR? MINOR IMPROVEMENT FOR A C O A. THAT YOU WOULD ADMINISTER OR[00:10:03]
THAT WOULD STAFF WOULD ACTUALLY ADMINISTER THAT SINCE IT'S A MINOR. UM SO WE'RE JUST KIND OF HERE TO DISCUSS WHAT IS THE RIGHT BALANCE BETWEEN YOU KNOW, PUSHING FORWARD AND SUSTAINABILITY BUT ALSO MAINTAINING THE AESTHETIC OF NEW ALBANY THAT PEOPLE LOVE. SO ANOTHER ANOTHER PUSH. FOR STARTING THIS PROCESS NOW IS SOME RECENT SOLAR LEGISLATION THAT HAS REALLY I THINK A STAFF WE ANTICIPATE AN INCREASED DEMAND FOR PERMIT APPLICATIONS FOR SOLAR AS A RESULT OF THIS LEGISLATION, SO ON THE FEDERAL LEVEL, YOU HAVE THE INFLATION REDUCTION ACT, WHICH ALLOWS TAXPAYERS TO CLAIM UP TO 30% OF TOTAL COST IN TAX SUBSIDIES, AND THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF OTHER CLEAN ENERGY CREDITS AND ELECTRIC VEHICLE TAX CREDITS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT LEGISLATION, BUT THEN ON A MORE LOCAL LEVEL AT THE STATE. WE SAW THE ENACTMENT OF SENATE BILL 61 IN SEPTEMBER. IT WAS SIGNED INTO LAW BY GOVERNOR DEWINE. AND THIS SAYS THAT SOLAR PANELS ARE PERMISSIBLE USE IN PLANNED COMMUNITIES UNLESS EXPRESSLY EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED. BY AN H O A OR COMMUNITY, UM, AUTHORITY SO ASSOCIATIONS WHO DO NOT PROHIBIT SOLAR PANELS IN THEIR COMMUNITIES MAY ONLY PLACE REASONABLE RESTRICTIONS, AND THAT'S THE LANGUAGE THAT THEY USE. UM LIKELY. WHAT WE'LL SEE HAPPEN IS HAVE THAT DEFINITION.BE KIND OF CREATED THROUGH LITIGATION THAT'S NOT REALLY CLEARLY DEFINED. WHAT A REASONABLE RESTRICTION IS. UM SO THAT JUST THOSE JUST WENT INTO EFFECT LAST YEAR. SO WE COULD BE SEEING AN INCREASED DEMAND FOR SOLAR IN THE COMMUNITY. YEAH, I WOULD SAY THAT REAL QUICK. I WE HAVE SEEN AN INCREASED DEMAND. YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY A FEW YEARS AGO. WE PROBABLY SAW ONE PERMIT EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS. NOW WE'RE SEEING A COUPLE PERMITS EVERY YEAR AND WITH THAT YOU'VE SENT IN BILL SORT OF TAKING POWER AWAY FROM THE H O IS THE CITY CURRENTLY, AS ANA SAID, HAS ZERO REGULATIONS FOR SOLAR PANELS, SO WE HAVE NOTHING FROM AN AESTHETICS OR REGULATORY STANDPOINTS. THE ONLY THING WE ISSUED PERMITS FOR IS REALLY FOR ELECTRICAL HOOKUPS. AND SO THIS IS REALLY KNOWING THAT YOU KNOW, HISTORICALLY H O S HAVE REALLY BEEN ABLE TO REGULATE THOSE FOR WHAT THEY DEEM AS APPROPRIATE FOR THEIR INDIVIDUAL SUBDIVISIONS AND NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITIES, UM, KNOWING THAT THAT COULD BE TAKEN AWAY, AT LEAST ON SOME LEVEL. THAT I WOULD SAY WAS REALLY THE. THE REASON FOR THE CITY STAFF TO FEEL A NEED TO STEP THIS UP AND UNDERSTAND WHAT OUR SOLAR PANELS WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY? IF YOU KNOW IF SOMEBODY HERE NOW THAT I MEAN, I KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE. PROBABLY WONDERFUL WHITE. THREE PEOPLE WHOSE EVER READ ALL THE COVENANTS ETCETERA THAT WERE FILED WITH THE COUNTRY'S COMMUNITY THAT THAT THAT AT THE TIME THAT THEY ESTABLISHED THE COUNTRY CLUB COMMUNITY DOES THAT MEAN THAT YOUR KNOWLEDGE WHETHER THE NEW ALBANY COMMUNITIES DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO GOVERNMENT? I DON'T THINK YOU CAN GO BACK AND AMEND THOSE GOVERNMENTS BECAUSE THEY'RE PART OF THE DEAL. AND THAT WOULD WOULD SEEM UNLIKELY YOU CAN DOES THAT MEAN THAT THERE'S NOTHING THAT THEY COUNTRY COMMUNITIES CAN DO NOW? SO I THINK THAT'S PREPARED TO OFFER. YOU DON'T NEED A LEGAL OPINION. BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT STATE BILL BASICALLY WOULD SAY THAT SOME OF THOSE CC AND RS WOULD DEEM SOLAR PANEL REGULATIONS IF THEY'RE UNREASONABLE, UNCONSTITUTIONAL, THEN RIGHT WOULD RESTRICT. REGARDLESS OF WHAT'S RECORDING THE C C C CNRS. AND THEY COULDN'T ADMINISTER THOSE. THOSE ARE THE ONLY RECORD BASIS AT LEAST. ESSENTIALLY RECENTLY. THE FEDERAL ACTION. THAT'S RIGHT. THANK YOU. YEAH, AND DEFINITELY FEEL FREE TO INTERRUPT. ASK QUESTIONS. LOVE FOR THIS TO BE A DIALOGUE AS YOU HAVE THOUGHTS THAT COME UP. I HAVE. I'M SORRY.
I'M GONNA ASK HAS THERE BEEN ANY DIALOGUE WITH ANY OF THE ECOWAS ABOUT YOU KNOW THEIR THOUGHTS OR THERE, YOU KNOW? PLANS FOR REASONABLE RESTRICTIONS, SO WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY DIRECT, UM, CORRESPONDENCE WITH OAS AS PART OF THIS PROCESS WHERE WE STARTED OUT. THIS PROCESS IS DOING HIS BEST PRACTICES REPORT AND WE WANT TO TALK TO OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS WERE ACTUALLY STILL , UM, LOOKING INTO WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST WAY TO GET ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK, EITHER. FROM H O A H REPRESENTATIVES OR EVEN THE COMMUNITY AT THE WHOLE, SO WE'RE HOPING TO GATHER ADDITIONAL INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY EVEN AFTER THIS BOARDING COMMISSION PROCESS IS DONE. I RECALL THERE
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BEING. I ONLY RECALL TWO HOUSES. IN ONLY ONE IN THE ALBANY COUNTRY CLUB COMMUNITY WITH SOLAR PANELS ON THE ROOF. IT WAS IN, UH, I THINK IT WAS THE ARMOR, STEINER'S HOUSE AND HANDS DOWN. THAT'S AND THEN THE HOUSE HERE AT THE CORNER. UM AT 605 ON THEIR BARN. I MEAN, I. I DON'T RECALL ANY OTHERS. THERE'S A BIG, YOU KNOW. IF IT'S ON GOD'S TOWN, MY BACKYARD DID YOU TELL YOUR MIC, PLEASE? HAVE BEEN IN OUR BACKYARD. SEE EVERY DAY IN THE HOUSE. IT'S HUGE PANEL IN THE BACKYARD. IN THE BACKYARD, NOT BACKYARD. ALRIGHT OKAY. GOOD THAT HELPS ME FOCUS THE PROBLEM.THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO GO BACK AND CHECK MY NOTES BECAUSE IT'S. I THINK THAT IS WHERE WE'LL REALLY SEE WITH THIS SENATE BILL 61. I THINK THERE'S STILL A LOT IN THE AIR IN TERMS OF. THE LEGISLATION DOES SAY ASSOCIATIONS WHO DO NOT PROHIBIT SOLAR PANELS IN THEIR COMMUNITIES MAY ONLY PLACE REASONABLE RESTRICTION. SO THAT KIND OF I THINK THE CNRS I THINK IT MIGHT BE. I THINK WE'LL HAVE TO SEE HOW THE COUNTRY CLUB UPHOLDS THAT IT COULD BE IN THE DEED. BUT THEN WHETHER I'M NOT A REAL ESTATE LAWYERS, I JUST DON'T KNOW WHETHER WHETHER IN FACT WHAT'S IN THE DEED, THEN HAS AN ABILITY TO BE AMENDED IN SOME WAY OR SUPPLEMENTED OR CATCH WAY. THAT THEN WOULD BECAUSE I WENT BACK. I LOOKED ACTUALLY READ 61. YEAH, THIS HEAR HORROR GOING BACK TO BEING A LAWYER FOR ABOUT 20 MINUTES AND THEN STOPPED. WOULDN'T IT JUST BE LIKE AN ENFORCEABLE COVENANT? BUT YOU KNOW, LIKE OTHER UNENFORCEABLE COVENANTS THAT HAVE BEEN INVALIDATED BY COURT ORDER STATUTE CANDLELIT LEGISLATURE DO DO THAT. AND THAT MY DAD BUT ANYWAY, OKAY, FIND OUT QUARTERLY, BUT CLEARLY THE NEED FOR THE CITY TO DO.
SOMETHING IS RIGHT. MHM. YEAH SO THE FIRST KIND OF MEANS SECTION OF THE REPORT LOOKS AT IDENTIFYING WHERE SOLAR COULD BE INSTALLED SO THAT WE CAN SET THE STAGE FOR DEVELOPING REGULATIONS AND THINKING ABOUT WHAT DIFFERENT LAND USES ARE AREAS OF THE CITY. WOULD WE SEE SOLAR INSTALLED? UM WE SEE RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL VILLAGE CENTER, AND THAT WOULD BE REALLY YOUR PURVIEW AS THE RB. THEN YOU ALSO HAVE INSTITUTIONAL, UM AND COMMUNITY SOLAR. AND THEN WE THREW AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURES AS KIND OF ITS OWN SECTION BECAUSE THOSE REGULATIONS COULD BE DIFFERENT. SO THEN LOOKING WE WANTED TO CONSIDER NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, THE SOLAR PANELS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR MINDS ALREADY IS WHAT COULD GO ON HOMES BUT ALSO THINK ABOUT WHAT EMERGING TECHNOLOGY UM, COULD BE COMING INTO THE FIELD IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS. AND REALLY, HOW DO WE GET AHEAD OF THAT AND INCLUDE THAT IN OUR REGULATIONS AND EVEN RECOMMENDATIONS FOR HOW TO APPROACH SOLAR IN NEW ALBANY? SO WE SEE THINGS LIKE THE BUILDING INTEGRATED PHOTOVOLTAIC SIX, AND THAT'S YOU KNOW, THE SOLAR SHINGLES THAT YOU SEE COMING OUT FROM TESLA AND SIMILAR COMPANIES . YOU ALSO HAVE THE SOLAR TRACKING MOUNTS THAT YOU SEE IN LIKE BIG SOLAR FIELDS THAT CAN CHANGE THE DIRECTION THAT THE PANELS FACE, DEPENDING ON TIME OF DAY, SO IT REALLY ATTRACTS THE SUN. TO OPTIMIZE THE AMOUNT OF ENERGY IT TRAPS. SOLAR ENERGY STORAGE. THAT'S REALLY I MEAN, THAT'S PRETTY POPULAR. NOW IT IS EXPENSIVE, BUT HAVING AN ON SITE BATTERY THAT YOU CAN STORE YOUR ENERGY, AND I KNOW A P HAS SOME RULES ABOUT IF HEALTHY, ALLOW THAT. UM THEN. SOMETHING NEW THAT I WENT THROUGH. THIS PROCESS IS PHOTOVOLTAIC CELLS AND YOU CAN HAVE A BODY OF WATER , WHETHER IT BE A RETENTION POND OR SOMETHING SIMILAR WHERE YOU CAN PUT FLOATING SOLAR PANELS RIGHT THERE ON THE BODY OF WATER. UM SOMETHING WE'RE SEEING A LOT MORE OF HERE IS PARKING LOT SOLAR. I HAVE PICTURES LATER ON OF THE OF THE JPMORGAN CHASE BUILDING. UM WHERE THEY JUST INSTALLED PARKING LOT COVERS WITH SOLAR ON THEM. AND THEN ANOTHER NEW IDEAS. THIS NOISE BARRIER THAT'S CODED IN PHOTOVOLTAICS AS WELL. SO THERE'S REALLY LIKE A LOT OF LOT OF NEW EMERGING TECHNOLOGY. AND I'M SURE THAT THIS DOESN'T EVEN COVER ALL OF WHAT WE COULD SEE IN THE NEXT 5 10 YEARS. SO THINKING ABOUT SPECIFICALLY THOSE TRENDS. SORRY SOME OF
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THOSE YELLOWS AND GREENS START SHOP. VERY WELL. UM WE WANTED TO CREATE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR HOW THE CITY WOULD APPROACH THESE EMERGING TECHNOLOGIES. AND WE DEVELOPED THESE RECOMMENDATIONS.UM THE FIRST BEING HIGHLY ENCOURAGE THE USE OF BUILDING INTEGRATED PHOTOVOLTAIC CELLS IN NEW CONSTRUCTION AND RENOVATION PROJECTS. UM AND SO, I MEAN THE BUILDING INTEGRATED PHOTOVOLTAIC SIX LOOKS PRETTY MUCH JUST LIKE A STANDARD ROOF. RIGHT. SO THERE'S LESS IMPACT OF HAVING BIG SOLAR PANELS, AND IT JUST LOOKS. INTEGRATED, WHICH IS NICE. WE ALSO HAVE CREATED INTERNAL CRITERIA FOR WIND. SOLAR TRACKING AMOUNTS ARE APPROPRIATE USES. ALLOW THE USE OF SOLAR ENERGY STORAGE AND ALL USE APPLICATIONS. EXPLORE THE USE OF PHOTOVOLTAIC SO AS AN ALTERNATIVE TO GROUND MOUNTED A RAY PROPOSALS. CONSIDER A SOLAR READY DESIGN REGULATION FOR NEW BUILDINGS. ANALYZED THE POTENTIAL FOR PHOTOVOLTAIC NOISE BARRIERS AS A POSSIBILITY FOR NEW ALBANY. CONSIDER IMPLEMENTING SOLAR PANELS AS PART OF THE PARKING LOT DESIGN CODE FOR FUTURE PARKING LOTS AND CONSIDER APPLYING TO THE SOUL SMART DESIGNATION PROGRAM. TO RECOGNIZE COMPANY'S COMMITMENT TO SOLAR ENERGY, AND THAT LAST ONE IS MAYBE LESS TREND VERSUS SOMETHING. I MEAN, I GUESS IT'S A TREND FOR COMMUNITIES IN OHIO . SO SMART IS A DESIGNATION PROGRAM THAT JUST SHOWS CONTRACTORS AND BUSINESS THAT WE'RE A SOLAR READY COMMUNITY.
UM AND A LOT OF COMMUNITIES, SOME OF OUR PEER COMMUNITIES THAT WERE IN THIS HAVE APPLIED AND BECOME LIKE UPPER ARLINGTON . I THINK JUST GOT GOLD STATUS AND SO SMART, SO IT'S JUST IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE DESIGNATIONS. SO THIS IS THE DRAFT RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THESE EMERGING TECHNOLOGY, SO THERE'S A COUPLE OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS WILL GO THROUGH LATER AND MORE SPECIFICS THAT ARE PROBABLY MORE APPLICABLE YET TO WHAT WE WOULD SEE BEING IMPLEMENTED IMMEDIATELY. BUT SINCE THIS IS AN AVERAGE CHANGING TECHNOLOGY, WE ALSO WANTED TO KEEP THIS ON OUR RADAR. SO TO SPEAK EARLY ON AND JUST CURIOUS IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY SORT OF THOUGHTS OF, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THIS COULD APPLY . MAYBE THIS COULD YOU KNOW, MAYBE THIS WE SHOULD JUST KIND OF LEAVE THAT OUT AND PROHIBITED ALTOGETHER. CERTAINLY YOU KNOW, FLOAT FLOAT TOE BALL KICKS AGAIN EVEN SAY THE WORD IS IT'S HARD TO SAY AND YOU KNOW, MAY OR MAY NOT BE APPROPRIATE DEPENDING ON WHERE IT IS, BUT YEAH, BUT I ALSO THINK, KNOWING, UM YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE IS A POTENTIAL USE FOR LIKE THE INTEGRATED PHOTO PVS WITHIN THE VILLAGE CENTER, RIGHT KNOWING THAT THE IMPORTANCE WE PUT ON MATERIALS, CERTAINLY IF THOSE ARE INTEGRATED LOOKS LESS LIKE AN ADD ON, YOU KNOW, THAT COULD BE A SOURCE OF POTENTIAL USE AND BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY I'VE GOT. I'VE GOT A FEW, AND THIS MAY BE THE BEST TIME TO LAY OUT KIND OF A BIG PICTURE OF THINGS.
UM LOOKING AT ME SO ONE I THINK . I BOUGHT INTO THE STRATEGIC PLAY ANIMAL THAT RULES THERE.
BUT THE OTHER THING THAT I THINK THAT I THINK WE ALL THAT AND THAT STAFF HIGHLIGHTED WAS THE CONCEPT THAT WE CAME HERE BECAUSE OF GOOD DESIGN. UM SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK THAT STAFF NEEDS TO KEEP IN MIND. IS. THAT THAT WHAT DECISIONS WE MAKE NOW AND THINGS THAT WE ALLOW TO GET PUT ON THINGS NOW BE WITH US FOR A LONG TIME. AND I AND I THINK ABOUT THAT I THINK ABOUT LET'S GO BACK, AND MAYBE THE TWO EXAMPLES ONE IS THE ADVENT OF ELECTRICITY , WHICH I THINK NONE OF US WERE ALIVE FOR. WHEN THAT HAPPENED, BUT WE CAN WE READ BOOKS? YEAH I THINK, EJ I WAS GONNA ASK ME J AND HE'S LEFT THE BOARD. THE BUT WHEN YOU KNOW THE EARLIEST THE EARLIEST ADVENT ELECTRICITY THESE WONDERFUL, YOU KNOW, BROWNSTONES AND MANSIONS ON PARK AVENUE AND FIFTH AVENUE IN IN NEW YORK, THEN THEY HAD POLES AND WIRE AFTER WIRE AFTER WIRE GOING INTO THESE HOUSES FOR FIRST ELECTRICITY AND THEN PHONE AND TELEGRAPH AND GOT TO HAVE A LITTLE KNOWS WHAT ELSE? AND ITS STAFF KNOWS ONCE THAT'S THERE. IT'S THERE FOR A LONG TIME AS WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET THEM OFF OF THE 62 HERE IN IN TOWN. SO I THINK IT'S GETTING THEM TO BE UNDER GETTING TO BE UNDERGROUND ONCE THEY ONCE THEY'RE THERE. SO I THINK WE NEED TO KEEP IN MIND OUR DESIGN AESTHETIC. AS WE THINK ABOUT WHAT WE WANT TO SEE. BECAUSE OTHER THAN YOU KNOW, I'M SURE WHEN PEOPLE SAW THOSE IF THEY WERE UGLY, BUT THEY'RE MODERN AND WE CAN, ETCETERA AND SO THEY I STILL THINK THAT MOST OF TODAY'S SOLAR PANELS ARE BUTT UGLY. THE ONLY ATTRACTIVENESS IS THE VIRTUE THAT SIGNALS THROUGH THEIR PRESENCE, AND I HOPE WE
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CAN WE CAN ALLOW THAT VIRTUE IN A WAY THAT DOESN'T CUT INTO THE DESIGN AESTHETIC. IT'S ALL LIKE , AND OBVIOUSLY THE BUILDING INTEGRATED PHOTOVOLTAIC TAX. HIDING THESE HIDING THEM IN AREAS THAT WERE AESTHETICS ARE IMPORTANT. TO ME, IT SEEMED TO BE VERY IMPORTANT. BECAUSE YOU CAN'T REVERSE WHOLE BUNCH OF UGLY SOLAR PANELS ON ROOFS. VISIBLE FROM THE STREET QUICKLY.AND IF, IF EVER WAS THE STREET VISIBLE FROM YOUR NEIGHBORS, WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN COMMUNITY WITH A STANDARD OF FORESIGHTED ARCHITECTURE. SO IT'S DELICATE. YES. TO THAT. AND WE CERTAINLY HAVE ALSO HAD SCREENING AND SO KIND OF CERTAINLY THE CONCEPT OF SCREENING IN TRYING, FOR EXAMPLE , TO SEE WHAT THE SOLAR PANELS AT JPMORGAN LOOKED LIKE USING ONLY GOOGLE STREET HERE. I NOTE THAT GOOGLE DIDN'T COME ANYWHERE . APPARENTLY ALL THE ROADS THAT ARE IMMEDIATELY AROUND IT MUST BE OWNED BY JPMORGAN. BE PART OF THE DRIVEWAY SYSTEM SO YOU CAN'T ACTUALLY SEE THEM AND FROM ALL AROUND PROPERTY, IT'S ALL OF THAT STUFF IS SCREEN WITH TREES AND MOUNTING FROM WHAT I CAN TELL. I MEAN, IT IS ONE DIRECTION. THEY HAPPEN TO DRIVE IT LIKE YOUR DESK AND SEE WHETHER YOU CAN SEE IT IN THERE AND YOU CAN'T TELL BUT BUT BECAUSE AGAIN IN THE JPMORGAN CASE, JASON JPMORGAN CHASE INSTANCE. I THINK THOSE ARE 30 FT. OFF THE GROUND. I REMEMBER I WENT BACK TO THE ARTICLE IN THE PAPER THAT ANNOUNCED IT, AND THAT'S PRETTY TALL. SO WHILE IT'S APPEALING IS IT DESIGN AESTHETICALLY WANT? I'D ALSO BE CAREFUL ABOUT DOING ANYTHING THAT ARLINGTON DOES. GIVEN WHAT A DISASTER THEY ARE PLANNING GENERALLY SO I'LL LEAVE YOU WITH THAT. YEAH. AND. ON THE OTHER ONES ON THESE SO AGAIN. YEAH. REQUIRING SOLAR PANELS THAT PART OF IT'S PART OF THE PARKING LOT. DESIGN CODE WOULD LEAST THIS ISN'T THIS IS JOHN LEIGHTON PRIVATE CITIZEN, NOT ENLIGHTEN A RB MEMBERS TALKING I'D KIND OF BE RELUCTANT AD THERE'S ANOTHER.
THERE'S ONE CALIFORNIA IS ENOUGH. DO WE NEED ANOTHER ONE TO TELL PEOPLE WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO. I THINK WE COULD ALLOW IT, BUT REQUIRE IT WOULD WOULD STRIKE ME AS BEING NOT OHIO THING. AND THEN. THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE ON THIS WHOLE SMART DESIGNATION IS. AND YOU GUYS PRESUMABLY KNOW A BIT MORE ABOUT THAT, BUT I WOULD RATHER HAVE THE RIGHT SET. OH, THE REGULATIONS CODE, THE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE CORRECT FOR ALBANY THAN CHASE. SOMEBODY ELSE'S I D. F. OF WHAT A GOOD PROGRAMS SO THAT YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE IT'S LIKE BEING BEING WHEN I WAS A CUB SCOUT. I WAS I WAS A BOBCAT AND I WAS LOOKING FORWARD TO BEING A WOLF.
AND THEN SUDDENLY THEY CHANGED IT, AND THE ULTIMATE RANK OF WIRE WAS REMOVED. AND NOW WE'RE SUPPOSED TO SCRIBE FOR A WEEK BELOW. WHAT'S A WEEVIL? SO I QUIT. BECAUSE I COULDN'T BE ALIVE AND AGAIN. YOU DON'T WANT SOMEBODY ELSE SETTING THESE RULES. WE WANT TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT FOR US AND NOT HAVE SOMEBODY CHANGED. THE ULTIMATE GOLD STANDARD TO BE IN A WEE BELOW AND YOU DON'T WANT TO BE AGREEABLE. PETER. EXCELLENT. CAN I? YEAH, THIS IS GREAT FEEDBACK . PLEASE GO. SO I JUST WANT TO ADD ON LIKE, I THINK BUT I WAS LOOKING AT THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
I THINK YOU'RE GONNA GET TO BUT ALONG WITH THIS RIGHT MUST SAYING, YOU KNOW, IN THE RESIDENTIAL SECTION, YOU KNOW, WE ENCOURAGING, UM, ON THE BACK SIDE OF THE HOUSE, BUT I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO FOCUS ON THE DESIGN. AESTHETICS AND THE RULES AROUND THAT MAKING SURE IF THEY'RE ON THE BACK SIDE, THE HOUSE THAT THEY WORK. YOU KNOW SOME OF THE PICTURES YOU HAVE ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THE OF THE OF THE HAND OUT, YOU KNOW? MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT UNIFORM BECAUSE MY FEAR IS THAT EVENTUALLY REGULATIONS ARE GONNA BE SUCH THAT YOU CAN'T PREVENT THEM FROM BEING ON THE FRONT OF SOMEONE'S HOUSE BECAUSE OF THE ECONOMICS OF THE DIRECTION OF HEALTH SPACES THAT PUTS THAT PERSON AT AN ECONOMIC DISADVANTAGE TO BE ABLE TO INSTALL SOLAR PANELS. SO IF WE DON'T HAVE THESE TIGHT RULES, EVEN FOR THE STUFF THAT'S IN THE BACK. WE MAY END UP WITH UGLY STUFF ON THE FRONT THROUGH COURT ORDE SO WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT RISK BECAUSE I THINK YOU KNOW IF YOUR HOUSE FACES A CERTAIN DIRECTION, IT HAS TO GO ON THE FRONT OR, YOU KNOW, IN ORDER FOR IT TO BE. ECONOMICALLY VIABLE FOR THE HOMEOWNER AND THE COURT MAY FORCE US TO ALLOW THAT I'D RATHER REQUIRE THE BUILDING INTEGRATED OR WHATEVER THAT TERM IS. EVERYWHERE THEN ALLOW UGLY ONES. THE BEST YEAH, I'M SORRY.
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I LIED. AND THAT'S A GOOD JUMPING OFF POINT FOR THIS CHART. SO THIS IS THE RECOMMENDATIONS ON WHERE THOSE EMERGING TECHNOLOGIES ARE GUESS WHAT THE REPORT FEELS THAT WHERE THEY COULD BE APPROPRIATE. AND SO THERE IS A COLUMN IN THERE, TOO, FOR THE VILLAGE CENTER. YES SORRY. THIS IS QUITE SMART. THIS COLUMN HERE IS FOR THE VILLAGE CENTER. SO THAT WAS THE SAYING.UM. THAT THE BUILDING INTEGRATED PHOTOVOLTAIC SIX SOLAR ENERGY STORAGE. SO THOSE BATTERIES UM AND SOLAR ALREADY BUILDING DESIGN AND PARKING LOTS. SOLAR INSTALLATIONS ARE, UM, APPROPRIATE USES IN THE VILLAGE CENTER. I THINK OVERALL, WE'RE LOOKING FOR YOUR FEEDBACK ON WHAT IS APPROPRIATE USE WHAT THE APPROPRIATE USES ARE BOTH IN THE VILLAGE CENTER. UM, AND MAYBE SOME OF THESE OTHER OPINIONS. WE WELCOME THEM, UM I MEAN, I HAD I HAD ONE COMMENT ON THE TABLE, WHICH WAS ON THE ON THE SOLAR ENERGY STORAGE. I DIDN'T CARE WHERE IT WAS. AS LONG AS IT WAS SCREENED. WE SHOULD TREAT IT LIKE ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE DON'T LIKE THE TRASH TRASH. CAN. YOU KNOW YOU WANT TO HAVE IT SCREEN IT? UM I DON'T WANT TO STUDENTS. I DON'T WANT TO SEE IT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MIDDLE OF THE FRONT YARD. OR ON THE ROOF WITHOUT BEING SCREENED. IT AND SOLAR TRACKING AMOUNTS AGAIN. IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IF THERE. IN A COMMERCIAL, WHICH I AGAIN WHAT? LET'S USE OUR OLD FAVORITE BREW DOG. UM LET'S ASSUME LET'S HOPE LET'S HOPE AT LEAST THAT WE DON'T HAVE THEM IN ANY PLACE THAT WE CAN SEE IT. THAT THEIR SCREENS YEAH, AND THIS AND THIS IS PURELY FROM A USE STANDPOINT, SO THERE DEFINITELY COULD BE ADDITIONAL REGULATIONS. YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS LIKE, SCREENING GOES LOCATIONS, BUT, YEAH, SO THIS PLANE DOES NOT RECOMMEND THE SOLAR TRACKING MOUNTS IN THE VILLAGE CENTER. IT ALSO DOES NOT RECOMMEND THE USE OF FLOW. IT'LL FLOATABLE CAKES IN THE VILLAGE CENTER AND AH AS A USE FOR LIKE THE NOISE BARRIERS. SO YOU KNOW, WE'VE WE SAW ONE. I THINK IT WAS ANYONE ELSE WAS IN THIS COUNTRY, ANOTHER COUNTRY WHERE THERE THEY USE IT ALONG HIGHWAYS, SOMETHING ELSE WE SORT OF FOUND. WE'LL JUST KIND OF LOOKING FOR EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING ON HOW PEOPLE ARE USING SOLAR PANELS AROUND THE WORLD. SO YEAH, THAT THAT THAT'S GREAT FEEDBACK ABOUT LIKE THE SCREENING OF IT. IF ANYBODY ELSE FEELS LIKE STRONGLY ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, UM, ABOUT THIS TABLE, PLEASE THINK READY DESIGN. HELP ME. UNDERSTAND THAT. IN THE SENSE OF WHAT ARE WE? WHAT ARE WE REQUIRING? I THINK THERE WAS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF SOME OF THE PANELS ON THE SIDE OF A BUILDING, SO IT'S ALMOST USED AS AN ARCHITECTURAL MATERIAL, SO IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S PURPOSEFULLY PLANNED. THERE WAS AN EXAMPLE IN HERE. I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW WHAT PAGE, BUT IT WORKS WELL ON A COMMERCIAL APPLICATION RESIDENTIAL. IF YOU GUYS WANT TO KEEP GOING, I'LL SEE IF I CAN FIND IT. I HAD A COUPLE OF COMMENTS AS A RELATES TO THE CRITERIA AND I THINK I WOULD START WITH A QUESTION OF LONG TERM APPLICABILITY, NOT JUST PUTTING THE GENIE BACK IN THE BOTTLE, BUT THESE BECAUSE THESE TECHNOLOGIES ARE CHANGING SO FREQUENTLY. I THINK IT'S SAFE TO SAY THAT NOBODY IN THIS ROOM IS EQUIPPED TO PREDICT WHAT THE FUTURE RENEWABLE ENERGY STRATEGIES ARE GOING TO BE EVEN THREE OR FIVE YEARS OUT. UM IT GIVES ME PAUSE ON THIS WHOLE INITIATIVE BECAUSE OF THAT, BECAUSE WE LIVE IN A CLIMATE REGION WHERE THERE IS THERE IS A GAIN. IN USING SOLAR PANELS, OBVIOUSLY NOT A SIGNIFICANT IF WE WERE IN A LOWER LATITUDE, OR YOU KNOW GREATER SUNSHINE STATE , BUT THERE IS CERTAINLY A VALUE THAT CAN BE DEFINED AND ARTICULATED WITH WHETHER IT'S AN R O I OR JUST AN ENERGY SAVINGS. BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAUTIOUS BECAUSE THE PACE AT WHICH THESE THINGS ARE CHANGING. THIS MAY BE. I'M NOT SUGGESTING IT WILL BE MOOD, BUT IT MAY BE MOOD AND I THINK WE JUST HAVE TO AT LEAST ACCEPT THAT THAT'S A POSSIBILITY. UM TO THAT END, I THINK WHEN IT COMES TO THESE KINDS OF EMERGING TECHNOLOGIES. WE ALSO HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT. HOW STRONGLY WE RECOMMEND , FOR EXAMPLE, INTEGRATED PANELS. THOSE THOSE PANELS ARE NOT THOROUGHLY TESTED. THEY CAN'T BE. THEY HAVEN'T WITHSTOOD A 20 YEAR LIFE CYCLE OR A 50 YEAR LIFE CYCLE. THEY HAVEN'T BEEN AROUND THAT LONG. AND ONE THING THAT JUST WITH A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH I'VE DONE IN MY PROFESSIONAL LIFE ON THIS TOPIC IS THERE'S A LOT OF EXPANSION CONTRACTION WITH THOSE, UH INTEGRATED. UM, SHINGLES ESSENTIALLY. THAT HAS
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UNANTICIPATED CONSEQUENCES, AND THE LAST THING WE NEED IS TO ENDORSE. PRACTICE THAT POTENTIALLY PUTS PROPERTY VALUES AT RISK. I WOULD SAY RISK BEING THE PRIMARY CONCERN. UM I THINK THERE'S AN UNDERLYING ISSUE HERE, THOUGH, AND I'M GOING TO FOCUS MORE SPECIFICALLY ON RESIDENTIAL BECAUSE THAT'S MY WORLD IS THE. THE DESIGN GUIDELINES FROM BOTH THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY BUT ALSO THE COUNTRY CLUB COMMUNITY. ARE UNFORTUNATELY REALLY INCOMPATIBLE WITH THIS INITIATIVE ROOF PITCH. HIP ROOFS. ARE SO INAPPROPRIATE FOR WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH HERE. AND EVEN THOUGH I'M SUPPORTIVE OF IT THE SAWTOOTH THING OF THE PANELS ON A HIP ROOF IS ONE OF THE MOST UNATTRACTIVE STRATEGIES THAT YOU CAN POSSIBLY SEE IN A AND TO GET EVEN MORE GRANULAR. 9 12 OR 10 12 ROOF PITCHES REALLY NOT IDEAL FROM AN ANGLE OF INCIDENTS OF SUN ANGLE. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO END UP IN A BIT OF A TUG OF WAR BETWEEN JOHN GOOD ARCHITECTURE. VERSUS YOU KNOW, RENEWABLE ENERGY, AND I DON'T I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER TO IT. I'M JUST SORT OF CALLING OUT THE OBVIOUS ISSUE, AND I THINK YOU BRING UP A GREAT POINT ABOUT FRONT BACK FORESIGHTED ARCHITECTURE THAT JUST ADDS ANOTHER LAYER OF COMPLEXITY. SO I WONDER IF A COUPLE OF THOUGHTS WOULD BE FIRST. UM I THINK I THINK ALLOWING IS A GOOD STRATEGY. I THINK ENCOURAGING IS SOMETHING I WOULD HAVE TO JUST SAY I WOULD DO WITH WITH CAUTION. UM I DON'T THINK THAT. AND I THINK THE OTHER QUESTION MIGHT BE THAT TO THE DEGREE THAT THIS CAN BE LEGISLATED. THERE HAVE TO BE SOME KIND OF UNWINDING. UH, IN THE LANGUAGE THAT ALLOWS OR REQUIRES THESE THINGS TO BE REMOVED. SHOULD THE TECHNOLOGY BECOME OBVIOUSLY ANTIQUATED, UM , OVER TIME. I MEAN, WE JUST GOT FOR THOSE OF US THAT DO LIVE WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THE COUNTRY CLUB COMMUNITY. WE JUST GOT A LETTER, YOU KNOW, STIPULATING SCREENING REQUIREMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND ONE THING THAT WAS ON THAT LETTER WAS, UM THE INAPPROPRIATENESS OF DIRECT TV DISHES ON THE ROOF. WELL, WE CAN ALL LOOK AT THAT AND GO WELL, YEAH, BECAUSE MOST OF US IF NOT ALL OF US ARE STREAMING NOW AND WE JUST GO. YEAH WELL, WHO NEEDS THAT? BUT YOU KNOW, AT THE TIME, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A REAL THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A REAL FRUSTRATION FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE. AND I'D HATE TO SEE THIS BECOME THE SAME. UM AND THEN THE OTHER COMMENT, SO IN IN SOME WAY I JUST THINK THERE HAS TO BE HOW DO YOU HOW DO YOU WALK THIS BACK? I'LL LEAVE THAT TO SHARPER MINDS TO WRITE DOWN HOW YOU WOULD DO THAT. AND THEN THE LAST COMMENT I HAVE IS THAT THE UM IF . IF WE'RE GOING TO COURAGE, THIS. TO BE PART OF A REVIEW PROCESS WITH ZONING, WHICH I WAS JUST READING ON ON THE REPORT. I THINK IT PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE DONE. IN CONJUNCTION WITH ANY H O A APPROVAL PROCESS. THAT HAS TO HAPPEN EARLY. SO, FOR EXAMPLE , IF WE'RE IN THE N A. C C A COMMUNITY UPON APPROVAL OF CONCEPT PHASE, THEN THE CITY I BELIEVE SHOULD THEN REQUIRE US TO SUBMIT. REQUEST FOR SOLAR APPROVAL AT THAT POINT, BECAUSE IF IT COMES UP LATE IN THE IN THE PERMITTING PROCESS IS GOING TO FRUSTRATE, NOT JUST ARCHITECTS AND BUILDERS. IT'S ALSO GONNA FRUSTRATE HOMEOWNERS BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE TOO FAR DOWN THE LINE TO WALK IT BACK, AND I THINK THAT'S THE APPROPRIATE TIED TO DETERMINE APPLICABILITY OF IT, BECAUSE OTHERWISE IT'S TOO LATE. I THINK SO. THERE HAVE TO BE. I SHOULDN'T SAY THERE HAS TO BE. I WOULD ENCOURAGE US TO HAVE SOME KIND OF EARLY REVIEW PROCESS. UM THAT DOESN'T LEAVE IT UNTIL THE 11TH HOUR OF APPROVAL BECAUSE WE DO GO IN FOR AN APPROVAL, AND IT HAS TO CLEAR BOTH ZONING AND BUILDING BEFORE WE GET A PERMIT . AND I THINK THIS COULD REALLY TRIP US UP AND I'D HATE TO SEE US AT THE EXPENSIVE OF HOMEOWNERS DO SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO PUT THEM IN A DISADVANTAGE TO ADVANCE THEIR PROJECT. WHATEVER THAT MAY BE, UM AS FAR AS THE SOLAR READY COMPONENTS. I THINK THAT'S REASONABLE AND I DO THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN PROBABLY RALLY AROUND WITH RESPECT TO THE LITTLE THE LITTLE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DONE TO ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN. UM BUT THOSE ARE THOSE ARE JUST SOME OF MY CAUTIONS ON THIS. IT'S A TRICKY ISSUE. FOR SURE. I DO UNDERSTAND THAT, UM BUT I'M NOT SURE THAT TIDEWATER GEORGIAN ARCHITECTURE IS UNFORTUNATELY, NOT THE MOST COMPATIBLE WITH THIS INITIATIVE ON THE FLIP SIDE IF WE HAVE THESE NICE YOU KNOW, BARN STRUCTURES WITH GABLE ROOFS THAT ARE PERFECTLY SIZED FOR A THREE BY FIVE MODULE TO KIND OF GO RIGHT DOWN THE LINE AND THE ORIENTATION OF THE HOME SUPPORTED IT. YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S A SLAM DOG. SO HOW WE DISCRIMINATE BETWEEN THOSE TWO CONDITIONS IS A TRICKY, TRICKY[00:40:05]
SITUATION. I WONDER IF YOU MIND IF I ASK YOU A QUESTION WOULD ARE YOUR CONCERNS? I UNDERSTAND HOW IT THERE'S A BUS. UM PRECISE OR, YOU KNOW, ARCHITECTURALLY PRETTY AND NEW TO THE SPORTSCENTER ANALOGY FOR RESIDENTIAL. BUT DO YOU FEEL THE SAME WAY ABOUT COMMERCIAL? BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THERE MIGHT BE SOME NEW APPLICANTS. THERE'S NEW BUILDINGS COMING UP. THERE'S A LOT OF NEW DEVELOPMENT. THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY. IF WE START AT THE BEGINNING TO LOOK AT IT HOLISTICALLY TO THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW TO ASSESS BUILDINGS NOT ONLY FOR THEIR STRUCTURAL SOUNDNESS AND THEIR UTILITIES. BUT WOULD THIS HAVE A GOOD APPLICATION FOR SOLAR AND MAYBE MAYBE WE DON'T ENCOURAGE IN THE RESIDENTIAL DEPARTMENT, BUT WE ENCOURAGE IN THE COMMERCIAL AND I FEEL LIKE, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE ABLE TO BANK POWER THAT WOULD HAVE A MUCH GREATER OVERALL IMPACT THAN YOU KNOW. AND THEN IF THE HOMEOWNER WANTS TO TAKE THE INITIATIVE TO SEE IF THEY CAN WORK. AESTHETICALLY PLEASING SOLAR PANEL INTO THEIR RESIDENTIAL. LET THEM COME AND YOU KNOW, MAKE THAT I THINK THAT'S ABSOLUTELY THAT MAKES SENSE. I JUST THINK WE ARE. WE ARE GOING TO GET TRIPPED UP ON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE. BUT CONVERSELY, ON THE COMMERCIAL, YEAH, THERE'S A LOT MORE APPLICABILITY OF THERE'S A LOT OF ROOM FOR A LOT OF ABSOLUTELY LET'S NOT LOOK PERFECT. THE ENEMY OF GOOD, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S FAIR IN MY COMMENTS GO AS MUCH TO VILLAGE CENTER RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL TO THE EXTENDED ATTEMPTS TO BE GEORGIAN. YES BUT WHEN I GET WHEN I GET INTO THE OFFICE PARKS. UM YEAH, HOPE IT'S ALL ON THE FLAT REASON WE NEVER HAVE TO SEE IT. UM, BUT BUT BUT THAT SO A LOT OF THESE COMMENTS REALLY GO AS MUCH TO THE TO THE PART THAT WERE INVOLVED IN. UM YEAH. THIS IS A GREAT CONVERSATION. AND SO JUST TO CLARIFY, TOO, SO THERE'S THESE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES. SO WHEN WE SAY RESIDENTIAL, OR I SHOULD SAY WHEN THIS DOCUMENT UH HUH. TALKS ABOUT RESIDENTIAL. IT'S TALKING ABOUT RESIDENTIAL OUTSIDE OF THE VILLAGE CENTER COMMERCIAL MEANS COMMERCIAL OUTSIDE THE VILLAGE CENTER. INSTITUTIONAL COULD BE ANYWHERE IN THE CITY AS A WHOLE.AND THEN VILLAGE CENTER IS JUST LIKE WHAT YOU GUYS SEE. SO IT'S ANYTHING WITHIN THE VILLAGE CENTER SO IT COULD BE COMMERCIAL RESIDENTIAL RETAIL. AND THEN THERE'S THIS COMMUNITY SOLAR, WHICH WOULD BE THE SOLAR FIELDS . AND THEN THERE'S ALSO ACCESSORY STRUCTURES AS WELL, WHICH COULD TAKE PLACE ANYWHERE IN THE CITY. AND SAID, THIS IS ACTUALLY A GREAT CONVERSATION.
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, SO WE MIGHT SKIP AHEAD. A FEW SLIDES HERE. THIS IS SORT OF THE BACKGROUND AND RESEARCH THAT WE DID, BUT THERE ARE SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS THAT GET AT WHAT THIS GROUP IS TALKING ABOUT. FOUR UM SPECIFIC RESIDENTIAL USES, AND THAT IS THE CHALLENGE TO IS THAT THIS WOULD BE RESIDENTIAL. FOR EVERY SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY, SO WE HAVE TO TREAT ALL RESIDENTIAL THE SAME. AND SO THAT'S ALSO WHY WE WENT THROUGH THIS BEST PRACTICES REPORT AND I THINK YOU KNOW SOMETHING THAT. AND IS, UH , NEW ALBANY COMMUNITY WIDE APPROPRIATE, BUT I THINK THIS IS ALL YES, PLEASE. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE MORE OF A RESEARCH COMPONENT OF THIS IS HAS ANYONE DONE AN EVALUATION AND I'M SURE THERE'S THIRD PARTIES THAT PROBABLY WOULD DO THIS OF IF YOU TAKE ALL OF THE EXISTING ASSETS OF NEW ALBANY DIVIDED INTO BOTH RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL. AND TAKING ALL FACTORS INTO CONSIDERATION ABOUT APPROPRIATE USE. MEANING YOU CAN'T JUST COVER EVERY ROOF. AREA WITH WITH PANELS. IT WOULD BE VERY INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT THE CONTRIBUTION OF ENERGY SAVINGS OR GENERATION WOULD BE IN BOTH. TYPOLOGY IS AND WHAT WERE THE REAL KIND OF THING FOR THE BUCK? YES, BECAUSE I SUSPECT BETWEEN ORIENTATION. EXISTING TREE COVER BUILDING HEIGHTS ORIENTATION. ALL THOSE FACTORS.
I BELIEVE THAT WE'LL FIND THAT IT'S A MINIMAL IF INSIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTION IN THE RESIDENTIAL SPACE AND PERHAPS SIGNIFICANT, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH SO IN THE COMMERCIAL SPACE, BUT I THINK IF THIS IS GOING TO GO TO THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE WITH SOME KIND OF RECOMMENDATION WE SHOULD HAVE A BEST CASE. ANALYSIS OF WHAT THAT RETURN ON INVESTMENT MIGHT BE AND IF, FOR SOME REASON, IT'S OVERWHELMING. THEN I THINK THAT WARRANTS FURTHER DEBATE. ON THE OTHER HAND, IT'S MARGINAL AT BEST. I THINK THAT'S ALSO GOING TO SHAPE POLICY. I WOULD THINK SO. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT INFORMATION HAS BEEN DEVELOPED. YET THERE'S COMPANIES THAT FOLLOW UP. QUESTION TO THAT IS RELATED TO IS THINKING ABOUT IT ON THE INDIVIDUAL SCALE, RIGHT AND MITIGATING PROPERTY OWNERS RIGHT TO OFFSET THEIR OWN COSTS BY THEIR RESIDENTS, LIKE BY THEIR UM, SOLAR PANELS ON THEIR ROOF, AND IT IS IT'S THIS BALANCE RIGHT AND THINKING ABOUT AN INDIVIDUAL OWNERS, RIGHT
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VERSUS COMMUNITY. PROTECTIONS AND MAKING SURE THAT NEW ALBANY UPHOLDS ITS STANDARDS. AND IT REALLY, I MEAN FOR ME STAFFING THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD TO JUST THE BALANCE IN CONVERSATIONS.IT'S IT IS DIFFERENT. UM, AND SO IT'S REALLY I JUST APPRECIATE THIS DIALOGUE AS IT'S GOING, SO THANK YOU DON'T KNOW THAT ANY OF US HAVE A RIGHT TO A SOLAR PANEL. AS MUCH AS I HAVE A RIGHT TO PUT LIKE A 300 FT WINDMILL ABOUT MY HOUSE BECAUSE I WANT TO HAVE IT AND THERE'S A LOT OF WIND RIGHTLY QUICKLY WHEN I TALK, BUT BUT SO I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT RIGHTS, UM PER SE, BUT I THINK WE I THINK WE DO NEED BUILD IN. THESE ONE COULD SAY. THE DESIGN AESTHETIC OF ALBANY AS SUCH LIVING RESIDENTIAL IN, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IN RESIDENTIAL OF OVER A CERTAIN DENSITY. WE DON'T WANT TO SEE MORE. WE DID. BUT BUT I THINK WE CAN. I THINK WE CAN WEAKEN. AS LONG AS PEOPLE ARE TREATED EQUALLY, AND THAT'S WHERE POTENTIALLY THE WITH THE. IN FRONT BACK ISSUE COMES INTO PLAY, AND THAT'S WHY I THINK WE DO HAVE TO DO FORESIGHTED. THAT THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE ARE ENTITLED TO BE TREATED EQUALLY, UM, SO JUST SO LIKE, QUESTION DOESN'T GET LOST IS, IS THERE AN ABILITY TO DO A STUDY AND ENERGY STUDY THAT JUST CONSIDERS HOW MUCH ROOFTOP SQUARE FOOTAGE WE HAVE, AND OR GROUND MOUNT OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, BUT COULD THAT BE DONE? WHAT WOULD I'M SURE THEY'RE HEARING? WHAT WOULD BE THE MOST GIVEN TODAY IN NEW ALBANY TODAY? WHAT WOULD BE THE MOST APPROPRIATE? AH! MEASURING TIME. WOULD YOU WANT IT NOW? OR DO YOU WANT TO IN 2025? RIGHT, I THINK. I'M I'M OPEN TO THAT CALIBRATING IT TO WHATEVER THE MOST RELEVANT INFORMATION AS YOU'RE RIGHT, BUT I JUST THINK THAT THERE'S GOT TO BE A DATA POINT THAT MIGHT BE FORMED THIS CONVERSATION AND I DON'T I DON'T SEE IT YET. SO THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING. YOU CAN CERTAINLY LOOK INTO SOMETHING. IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE HAVE. SURE, SURE. DEFINITELY LOOK INTO THAT. YEAH.
BUT IF WE DO THAT STUDY, WHICH I THINK IS GREAT STUDY AND FIGURE OUT THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE BENEFICIAL IF WE PUT IT IN THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS. TO BE LOOKED AT UTILIZING THE. THE PHOTOVOLTAICS IN THE CITY BUT ALONG THE HIGHWAYS, AND THERE WAS A BEAUTIFUL EXAMPLE THAT THEY DID IN ITALY, BUT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER. ARE YOU ABLE TO BANK THAT ENERGY AND DISTRIBUTED THROUGH THE COMMUNITY? I MEAN, THE WHITE PICKET FENCES THAT LOOK AMAZING TO DISTINGUISH THIS IS NEW ALBANY. BUT IF WE HAVE THOSE BEAUTIFUL ALONG THE SOUND BARRIER ALONG THE HIGHWAY THEN AT LEAST YOU KNOW, THAT'S ANOTHER VISUAL. LOOK AT THIS COMMUNITY THERE, YOU KNOW. FORWARD THINKING AND IT LOOKS NICER THAN THE BARRIERS THAT YOU SEE TODAY. JUST A THOUGHT. I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS. YEAH I THINK THAT'S DEFINITELY A CONSIDERATION. AND YOU KNOW THE SAME WITH YOU KNOW BASINS, TOO. I THINK IN THE BUSINESS PARK. IF YOU JUST SORT OF LOOK AT A MAP, THERE'S LOTS OF OPPORTUNITIES THERE, BOTH FROM ST PERSPECTIVE FROM A RETENTION BASIN PERSPECTIVE, AND I MEAN WE HAVE LITERALLY MILLIONS OF SQUARE FEET OF DATA CENTERS AND WAREHOUSES WITH FLAT ROOFS. SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, EVEN WITHOUT DOING A STUDY. IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO KNOW WHAT THAT WOULD BE. BUT, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY IN MY MIND PERSONALLY , THERE'S A LOT OF, SAY, WELL, HANGING FRUIT OUT IN THE ULTIMATE BUSINESS PARK FOR OPPORTUNITY TO PLAY SOLAR PANELS WILL BE ON TOP OF BUILDINGS AND OUT OF LINE OF SIGHT FROM THE PUBLIC REALM. AND IF ON THE NOISE POINT THAT KNOWS POINT IS PRESUMABLY COME DOWN, COME DOWN TO IT. EITHER THAT THE CITY ISN'T GOING TO DO IT. IF WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY STREETS. I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE ANY ROBOT. WE'RE NOT GOING TO PUT IT IN FOR THE CITY IS GOING TO PAY FOR IT AND IN THE INDUSTRIAL PARK AND IT'S CERTAINLY I DON'T THINK IT'S A CITY THINGS TO DO WHAT I WANT 61. I MEAN, THAT'S A STATEMENT OF FACT. SO I'M NOT SURE THAT MIGHT BE AN INTERESTING IDEA, BUT I'M NOT SURE WHERE THERE'S ANY PLACE OTHER THAN PERMIT IT. UM, AND WHETHER WE CAN, WHETHER WE CAN SAY NO TO THE STATE 1, 61 OR NOT, I'M ABOUT THE STATE MAY BE ABLE TO DO WHATEVER THE HECK THEY WANT. BUT BUT ON SOME OF THAT IT MAY BE MORE FUNCTION OF WHETHER WE ALLOW IT OR NOT, AND I YOU KNOW IT DIDN'T IN THE INDUSTRIAL PARK IN PLACES AND MUCH LESS SENSITIVE THAN I AM. HERE WE GO ON MY STREET. WHICH WHICH WE'RE NOT PROPOSING EVERYTHING. YEAH I THINK FROM THE STREET PERSPECTIVE, THERE'S ALSO THE PARKING LOT PERSPECTIVE FOR VISUAL SCREENING OF THAT. WE YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY USE LIKE LANDSCAPING. NOW, MAYBE IT'S SOME COMBINATION OF THAT, AND WE ALSO REQUIRE ROOFTOP SCREENING FOR BOTH SIGHT AND SOUND ON ALL OF OUR COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS THROUGHOUT THE BUSINESS PARK SO
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THINKING OF SOUND UPS. I THINK ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR CONSIDERATION BY THE COMMUNITY FOR YOU KNOW, REALLY MAKING IT A MULTIPURPOSE USE HAVE THOSE PANELS THAT IS BOTH FROM ENERGY PRODUCING STANDPOINT AND FROM A SOUND BLOCKING STANDPOINT. JUST THINKING ABOUT OUR CHILDREN. IF YOU DON'T HAVE TO LOOK AT THE TRUTH, THERE'S GOING TO BE SOLD. SECURITY INSIDE INSIDE INSIDE. I GUESS. ONE QUESTION I HAVE RELATED TO COMMERCIAL IS, UM, WHEN WE WERE DOING THE REPORT, IT SEEMED LIKE COMMERCIAL, ESPECIALLY THINKING ABOUT THE BUSINESS PARK COULD BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO DO GROUND MOUNTED INSTALLATIONS. UM WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON GROUND MOUNTED? IN THE BUSINESS PARTY. I MEAN, DIFFERENT AGAIN. IT SEEMS TO ME IF YOU DON'T WANT TO. I MEAN, MY VIEW IS I DON'T WANT TO SAY AND SO IF THEY WANT TO SCREEN HIM FUNNY. IT COULD BE A PREGNANT BODY. COULDN'T REALLY COULD DO GRANDMA. I'M LESS SENSITIVE AND AGAIN IN TERMS OF THE PARKING LOT ONES THERE. ALTHOUGH AGAIN I COME BACK TO THE WHOLE QUESTION. PLACED 30 FT HIGH. THAT'S PRETTY HIGH SCREEN THOSE UNLESS YOU'VE EVER A. A PERSON LIKE TASTE HAS WHERE YOU CAN TIGHTEN. IF YOU GO MUCH LOWER THAN YOU WONDER ABOUT HIM. YOU CAN YOU PLOW THE SNOW. WHICH IS A DIFFERENT PROBLEM, CAN YOU REALISTICALLY PROTESTANT CHASE THING I'D LIKE I'D LOVE TO SEE HOW THEY HANDLE THAT. THAT'S UM THE IMAGE OF THE BEFORE AND AFTER, BY THE WAY, IF YOU'RE CURIOUS IT NOW, MAYBE THIS AND THEN I SUPPOSE THERE'S THE OTHER INTERESTING QUESTION. BUT THAT'S NOT PROBABLY FOR THE CITY, WHICH IS WHAT DO YOU DO WITH THE SNOW ON TOP OF ALL THOSE, AND AT SOME POINT IS SNOW SUCH STRUCTURE HIS CHASE WOULD FIND OUT. I GUESS IT ALSO IS A QUESTION OF BEST AND HIGHEST USE OF PROPERTY, WHICH WE KNOW RIGHT NOW IS, YOU KNOW, WITH ALL OF THE GROWTH THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH IT MAY FORTUNATELY OR FORTUNATELY, DEPENDING ON WHOSE PERSPECTIVE IS OUT THERE. MAY SORT OF SELF REGULATE, BASED ON THE FACT THAT THE AMOUNT OF ACRES REQUIRED TO GENERATE THE KIND OF RETURN YES , NOT MAY NOT PROVIDE THE GREATEST RETURN ON THE VALUE OF THE LAND, SO I WOULD AGREE. I SORT OF AMBIVALENT TO IT BECAUSE I THINK IF IT'S PROPERLY SCREENED, AND THAT'S WHAT YOU KNOW, PROPERTY WANTS. TO DO THEN I THINK WE SHOULDN'T STAND IN THEIR WAY AS LONG AS IT DOESN'T CREATE DENSITY VOIDS IN THE IN THE WAY THAT THESE AREAS ARE DESIGNED. FROM A MASTER PLANNING STANDPOINT, WHERE ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU'RE GOING DOWN THE STREET THAT'S BUILDING BUILDING VOID, VOID, VOID BUILDING BUILDING. AND THEN PEOPLE WONDER WHAT YOU KNOW WHY, UM BUT I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT IT'S UNDERSTANDABLE. I JUST THINK THAT THAT THE MARKET MAY DICTATE THE OUTCOME. AND IF YOU KNOW INTEL IS OR WILL BE WITHIN THE CITY OF DEWORMING, OBVIOUSLY, THEY'RE GIVEN THE MOUND. EVEN OTHER STUFF THAT'S GOING THERE. THEY WANT TO PUT UP A BUNCH OF SOLAR PANELS. HAVE AT IT. WOW PROTEIN MAKE THEM DO THAT THE KAESONG WHEN THEY ARE PLAYING UP THERE. JUST A NON ARCHITECT THOUGHT I FEEL LIKE THE MOUNTAIN OR NOT THE WALMART, BUT THE FREESTANDING ONES WOULD BE LIKE A DIRECT TV SET BY KIND OF EASY TO REMOVE, RIGHT. MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE COULD BE ENCOURAGED YAHOO! GO WITH THE TIME TO BE INTEGRATED INTO THE STRUCTURE. FURTHER TO YOU DEAL WITH THE AMOUNT OF I MEAN, I GUESS THAT'S A PROBLEM. WE CAN'T ADDRESS TODAY. WHAT IF THESE? WHAT IF EVENTUALLY THIS IS A AGAIN DEAD END TECHNOLOGY. IT'S VERY HARD TO LEGISLATE THAT YOU HAVE TO TAKE IT DOWN. YOU KNOW ONCE IT'S INSTALLED, BUT IT'S AN UNLESS YOU DO IT BY WAY OF PERMIT TENURE PERMIT. ALTHOUGH YOU KNOW HE PRESUMABLY, YOU HAVE TO PERMIT IT FOR AS LONG AS THE USEFUL LIFE RIGHT OTHERWISE RIGHT BUT THEN THE QUESTION BECOMES HOW DO YOU MAKE THEM? TAKE IT DOWN IN THE PERMIT EXPIRES. YOU KNOW THERE'S CHRIS UP ON THE ROOF HOLDING STUFF. WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE HIM DO THAT. SO YEAH, I THINK THOSE ARE GREAT THOUGHTS AND COMMENTS. CERTAINLY WE CAN LOOK INTO OUR PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE, SO MOST CITIES HAVE A PROPERTY INTERNATIONAL PROPERTY MAINTENANCE COULD IT'S ADOPTED AND SOMETIMES CHANGE TO SUIT THE INDIVIDUAL COMMUNITY AND THAT'S YOU KNOW WHAT WE AS A CITY STAFF USED TO ENSURE THAT YOU KNOW, PAINTS NOT CHIPPING AND THAT THINGS ARE STRUCTURALLY SOUNDS. SO WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT RESEARCH YET. BUT THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WE COULD LOOK AT TO HOW OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE ENSURING AND WHAT THEY LOOK FOR EXACTLY TO ENSURE THAT THESE SOLAR PANELS ONCE THEY'RE INSTALLED, ARE IN GOOD WORKING ORDER AND LOOK THE WAY THAT THEY WERE INTENDED TO.FROM AN AESTHETIC STANDPOINT. UM SO GOING BACK AGAIN NOW TO THE SPECIFIC LIKE OUR SIX REQUIRING
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CONSIDER REGULATIONS REQUIRE NEW HOMES TO BE SOLAR READY AND FURTHER TO ANDREW'S POINT. IF THE COUNTRY CLUB AND OTHERS REQUIRE HIP ROOFS THAT THEY REQUIRE A CERTAIN PITCH. I DON'T WANT TO TRUMP THAT I DON'T THINK WE CAN BECAUSE THEN YOU HAVE THE CITY SAYING IT AND YET YET COVENANTS AND CONDITIONS ON THE REAL ESTATE. THINK SOMETHING ELSE. I THINK THAT'S A MESS, SO I THINK WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL WITH SOMETHING THAT SAYS YOU YOU CAN'T DO A ROOF THAT YOU HAVE TO DO IN IN IN A VERY IN A HOME IN A VARIOUS SUBJECTS SUBDIVISION. I THINK WE HAVE TO BE CENTERED ABOUT THAT. BECAUSE AGAIN I GET IT. YEAH I THINK THAT'S A GREAT COMMENT AND FEEDBACK. I THINK YOU KNOW, WHEN WE START WRITING THIS CODE, WE CAN CERTAINLY KEEP IN MIND YOU HOW THIS CODE IS INTERACTING WITH OUR DESIGN GUIDELINES AND REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE ESTABLISHED TODAY AND MAKE SURE THOSE ARE, UM I GUESS FITTING TOGETHER AS DESIRED. AND AGAIN WITH RESPECT TO INSTITUTIONAL AGAIN. I AGREE THAT INSTITUTIONAL BUILDING SUCH AS THE SCHOOLS AND CHURCHES, ETCETERA. GOOD WE CAN ENCOURAGE THIS TYPE OF STUFF, BUT I GET IT. IT COMES BACK TO THE OVER UNDER OVERLYING POINT IS, I WANT THE DESIGN AESTHETIC TO BE THERE. SO I DON'T WANT TO NECESSARILY HAVE HAVE UGLY PANELS ON THE DOME OF THE LIBRARY AT THE SCHOOL. SO IN CITY CODE IN EVERY GOING BACK TO RESIDENTIAL SO IN CITY CODE, THERE'S VARIOUS USES. SO YOU HAVE PERMITTED USES. SO THOSE ARE THINGS YOU'RE ALLOWED TO DO IN YOUR PROPERTY BY RIGHT THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE PROHIBITED. YOU CAN'T DO IT ALL. AND THEN THERE'S ALSO CONDITIONAL USES AND A CONDITIONAL USE REQUIRES ADDITIONAL REVIEW AND APPROVAL BY THE CITY'S PLANNING COMMISSION. AND SO I WANTED TO POINT OUT A SPECIFIC ONE HERE, WHICH IS OUR FOUR MAKE GROUND MOUNTED SOLAR CONDITIONAL USE AND REQUIRE SETBACKS AND SCREENING AS CRITICAL. THAT'S CRITERIA FOR APPROVAL AND RESIDENTIAL. SO THIS IS WE CETERA SALT IN SUMMARY WAS KIND OF ALL OVER THE PLACE FOR OTHER COMMUNITIES. IT SEEMS LIKE YOU KNOW, COMMUNITIES REGULATE THIS ALL DIFFERENT SORTS OF WAYS. I WANTED TO GET THIS GROUP'S THOUGHTS ON, UM, IMAGINE, YOU KNOW, IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, YOUR NEIGHBOR HAD A GROUND MOUNTED SOLAR PANEL, FRONT YARD BACKYARD SIDE YARD. JUST CURIOUS WHAT THIS GROUP'S THOUGHTS ARE ON THAT. AND YOU KNOW, ONE TOOL, SO TO SPEAK IN OUR IN OUR TOOLKIT THAT WE COULD USE IS MAKING YOU KNOW. GROUND MOUNTED. GO BEFORE BOARDING CONDITION. MAYBE IT'S YOU KNOW, IF IT'S IN THE VILLAGE CENTER, IT GOES BEFORE THE R B TO A DETERMINED GROUND MOUNTED IS APPROPRIATELY PLACED ON THE PROPERTY OUTSIDE THE VILLAGE CENTER MAYBE GOES BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION. PER CURRENT CODE REGULATIONS TO ENSURE ITS PROPERLY PLACED WITHIN THESE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES. SO JUST CURIOUS IF THERE'S ANY STRONG FEELINGS ONE WAY OR ANOTHER FROM THE GROUP TONIGHT ON THAT ONE.UM. AND I DON'T WANT ANYBODY ON THE SPOT. YOU CAN SLEEP ON THIS. YOU HAVE PLENTY OF TIME. IF YOU WANT TO WRITE US EMAILS AND TELL US THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE, TOO. I THINK THERE IS A WAY TO DEVELOP CRITERIA FOR THIS. I DON'T CANDIDLY THINK IT'S THERE YET FROM WHAT I SEE THERE, BUT IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE. I BELIEVE SUBJECTIVE TO SOME EXTENT, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF APPROPRIATENESS AND HOW THAT GETS HANDLED THIS COUNCIL STILL , I THINK ULTIMATELY SHOULD PROVIDE THE STANDARDS BY WHICH WE OR WHAT WE'RE PLANNING. WOULD ASSESS IT. BECAUSE IT CAN'T JUST BE WHETHER WE THINK AT LEAST SOME OF THIS. I THINK THAT WOULD BE IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE TO SET OBJECTIVE CRITERIA. VERSUS US REALLY COME UP WITH. YEAH, WE LIKE IT, AND WE DON'T LIKE I AGREE WITH YOU THAT THAT'S MY CONCERN IS I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WANT TO BE THE ARBITERS OF TASTE. I MEAN, I CERTAINLY FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. BUT I DON'T SPEAK AND I TRUST YOU IMPLICITLY. BUT THIS IS A FOCUS GROUP TYPE STYLE OF DISCUSSIONS . SO CERTAINLY YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GUIDE STAFF. TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION. UM JUST CITY COUNCIL FOR RULES AND REGULATIONS, AND THIS IS WHY WE GO TO MULTIPLE BOARDS TO BECAUSE EACH BOARD HAS A DIP, SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE, AND THEY'RE ALL VALID SO BEEN A STAFF WILL TAKE THAT AND TRY TO FIND THE RIGHT MESHING OF ALL THE PERSPECTIVES. YEAH. ACCESSORY STRUCTURE POINT.
AGAIN. I GUESS I GUESS IN, I GUESS IN THEORY AND AGAIN, I'M COMING BACK TO THE COUNTRY CLUB COMMUNITIES. YOU CAN'T HAVE AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURES YOU CAN UP TO 1100 SQUARE FEET, SO THEY'RE TYPICALLY SMALL BUILDINGS BY COMPARISON. OKAY. OKAY, SO I. DETACHED OK, BUT YOU CAN'T HAVE
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THE LITTLE BARS TO KEEP YOUR WRITING LOWER IN, YOU KNOW. RIGHT SO FROM THE CITY CODE PERSPECTIVE AGAIN OUTSIDE THE VILLAGE CENTER FOR ALL RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES, WE ACTUALLY UPDATED OUR CODE FOR ACCESSORY STRUCTURES, SO WHETHER IT'S A PERGOLA DETACHED GARAGE POOL HOUSE, WE PROVIDED MORE FLEXIBILITY WITHIN A CERTAIN SETBACK AREAS. WE SORT OF CALL THAT THE PLAYGROUND RIGHT OR THE SANDBOX SO AS LONG AS YOU'RE WITHIN YOUR SANDBOX, THE CITY LOOSEN UP ITS CODE TO ALLOW THE COMMUNITY. UM, TO HAVE SLIGHTLY LARGER BUILDINGS, UM, AND CAN MOVE THEM AROUND, AND WE ALLOWED TO HAVE MORE ACCESSORY STRUCTURES IN SOME CASES, SO CERTAINLY THAT'S WHY WE TREATED THIS DIFFERENTLY BECAUSE ALL ACCESSORIES STRUCTURES HAVE TO BE IN A CIDER REAR YARD TO BEGIN WITH. THEY HAVE TO BE A CERTAIN DISTANCE SET BACK FROM THEIR NEIGHBORS. SO CERTAINLY THERE'S A LOT WHILE THERE IS A SANDBOX. THERE'S ALREADY A LOT OF PRESCRIPTIVE REGULATIONS IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE THOSE ARE IN A CERTAIN AREA AND EVERYBODY'S PROPERTY WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS. WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO REQUIRE YEAH. CERTAINLY FROM A RETRO STEP RETROFIT STANDPOINT, THIS WOULDN'T APPLY AND NOT EVEN KNOW IF THAT'S GOING TO BE PERMISSIBLE OR NOT? BUT A NEW STRUCTURES, WHETHER IT BE COMMERCIAL OR RESIDENTIAL OR ACCESSORY THAT THE DESIGN. MUST BE CONTEMPLATED. WITH SOLAR IN MIND AND I'M MY WORDS ARE CLUMSY AT BEST, BUT THAT THERE HAS TO BE SOME CONSIDERATION GIVEN AT THE OUTSET OF CONCEPTUALIZING THE DESIGN SOLUTION, WHETHER IT'S ROOF PAGE AND ROOF ORIENTATION, AND THERE COULD PROBABLY BE SOME BASIC CRITERIA THAT NEED TO BE SATISFIED. IN OTHER WORDS, DON'T COME BEFORE THIS BOARD IF YOU KNOW, YOU'VE YOU'VE BACKED YOURSELF INTO A CORNER WITH THE DESIGN AND YOU'VE GOT HIP ROOFS THAT ARE 7 12 PAGE AND THE ONLY PLACE YOU CAN PUT IT ON THE FRONT ELEVATION AND IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN OUR HANDS ARE TIED. I THINK THERE ARE SOME BASIC CRITERIA THAT AS LONG AS THOSE THINGS ARE SATISFIED. AS THE DESIGN IS BEING DEVELOPED, THEN IT COULD BE GIVEN CONSIDERATION, BUT OTHERWISE IT ALMOST BECOMES A DISQUALIFIER. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S PERMISSIBLE IN TERMS OF LEGALITY, BUT THAT'S HOW I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS EVOLVE IF POSSIBLE. I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE SOLAR READY DESIGN, UM, AND MAKING SURE THAT BUILDINGS ARE SOLAR READY IN THE DESIGN PROCESS. UM RATHER THAN YOU KNOW, RETROFITTING A HOUSE TO FIT SOLAR HAVE A QUICK THOUGHT ON THE GROUND MOUNTED PANELS, AND OBVIOUSLY WE WERE GOING TO SCREENING BUT HOW MUCH SCREAMING . I MEAN, YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE IT FROM YOUR SECOND LEVEL, EITHER, YOU KNOW, AND IF THERE'S TOO MUCH SCREENING, IS IT EFFECTIVE BLOCKING? YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE APPROPRIATE SETBACK BUT ALSO ALLOWS FOR SCREENING THAT COULD GET HIGH ENOUGH BUT NOT BLOCK. THE PANEL'S RIGHT. THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF HUGE YARDS COMMUNITY I FEEL LIKE WE'RE KIND OF CLOTHES PLACED SO THAT THAT'S A TRICKY ONE. IT MAY ALSO BE YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON THE SETBACK, QUEEN AS A PRACTICAL MATTER IN THE TYPICAL RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE MAY NOT BE ROOM GRAND REALISTICALLY AND MOST MOST PEOPLE, PROBABLY LIKE ON A PRESIDENTIAL LEVEL DON'T NECESSARILY WANT GROUND MOUNTED RIGHT SO THEY DON'T WANT IT TO BE IN THEIR WAY. FARMS MAYBE IF THEY WANT TO DO IT BETWEEN THE POOL AND THE SEVEN CAR GARAGE. MAYBE THEY CAN DO THAT. IT WOULD BE THE BREEZEWAY COULD ACTUALLY BE GROUND MOUNTED, AND IT COULD GO THIS WAY AND THAT WAY AND ON THE WAY TO THE PORSCHE AND ASTON, WHATEVER ELSE YEAH, ABOUT THIS PRESIDENTIAL STUFF IS KIND OF BACK TO MY POINT. BEGINNING IS YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO GET THESE RULES IN PLACE BECAUSE THIS STUFF IS COMING, EVEN IF THE PITCH IS NOT RIGHT IN THE ROOF. IT DOESN'T GIVE YOU THE BEST, YOU KNOW. PRODUCTION OF SOLAR FROM ENERGY FROM THE STORE . PEOPLE ARE GONNA WANT IT LIKE PEOPLE WANT TO DO THEIR PART.AND THE PRICE OF THE STUFF HAS COME DOWN SIGNIFICANTLY AND SO WE NEED TO GET THE DISH NETWORK THE DISH SATELLITE DISH EXAMPLE . YOU KNOW, FIRST HOMER DECISIONS COMPLETELY SAID YOU CAN'T DO IT. AND THEN THOSE WORLDS COURT ORDER OF RULE. THE LAW WAS CHANGED AND THEY HAVE TO BE THE WE COULD PUT RULES IN PLACE TO SCREEN IT, AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TODAY. SO I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THESE AESTHETICS RIGHT AND GET IT IN PLACE BECAUSE WE DON'T WE'RE GOING TO END UP WITH ESPECIALLY IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY HOMES WE HAVE WITHOUT 100 ASSOCIATIONS THAT TODAY AND NOT VERY MANY BUT THEY BASICALLY COULD DO WHATEVER THEY WANT TODAY, RIGHT? AND SO THEN WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT CAN WE DO WITH WHAT? WHAT? WHAT ABOUT SOLAR AND HAMLET? JUST JUST SAYING CHECK, PLEASE. SORRY TO INTERRUPT. FRANCIS IT'S JUST IT'S SO FROM MY STANDPOINT, I THINK WE'VE HEARD HOPEFULLY A LOT OF HIGH LEVEL COMMENTS ABOUT
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WHERE WE THINK PRIORITY SHOULD BE. SO RATHER THAN GO IN AND EDIT EACH ONE OF THESE IN I THINK YOU I HOPE YOU'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF SENSE HERE. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE INDIVIDUAL ONES YOU CAN THINK OKAY IN LIGHT OF THIS CONVERSATION, WHAT IS WHAT IS THIS BOARD SAYING, BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT OTHER DETAILS, BUT I THINK RATHER THAN JUST REPEATING OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN, I THINK THERE'S A FLAVOR. YEAH NO, I YEAH. THIS HAS BEEN GREAT FEEDBACK. MAYBE WHAT WE CAN JUST GO THROUGH QUICKLY. HERE IS THE SPECIFIC VILLAGE CENTER REGULATIONS RECOMMENDED REGULATIONS FROM THE PLAN. SO UM, I'M SORRY FOR THE FIRST ONE IS TO HIGHLY ENCOURAGED THE USE OF THOSE BUILDING INTEGRATED AND I THINK ANDREW'S COMMENT IS WELL TAKEN, WHICH WE MAY HAVE TO SIMPLY SAY IN, YOU KNOW, ALLOW, BECAUSE IF WE HIGHLY ENCOURAGE, MAYBE THE CITY IS GOING TO GET ITSELF IN TROUBLE, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THE FEEDBACK WE HEARD IS THERE'S A LOT UNKNOWN. STILL DURABILITY OF THAT. MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO LOOK INTO MORE BEFORE ENCOURAGING.RIGHT AND THE OTHER ONE IS GIVE PREFERENCE TO FLAT ROOF INSTALLATIONS. PITCHED ROOF INSTALLATIONS. YES. AND THEN THE OTHER ONE WAS UTILIZED SIMILAR REGULATIONS FOR PITCHED AND FLAT ROOF INSTALLATIONS. UM AS THOSE OUTLINED IN RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL BEST PRACTICES, SO EDITED BY THIS CONVERSATION, OKAY? AND THEN THE LAST ONE WAS , LET'S CONTINUE TO MONITOR NEW TECHNOLOGIES. YEAH, SO THAT'S REALLY SORT OF YOU KNOW, AS TECHNOLOGY CHANGES, MAYBE WE LEARN MORE ABOUT THESE INTEGRATED PANELS. MAYBE SOMETHING ELSE COMES OUT. I THINK THAT ONE IS PROBABLY GOOD REMINDER THAT YOU KNOW, THIS IS JUST THE FIRST CODE UPDATE OF AND WE'RE STARTING TO TALK ABOUT A LARGER SOLAR PANEL INITIATIVE. SO JUST THINKING ABOUT HBOS OR OTHER PLAN AND RECOMMENDATIONS AS TO UPDATE. OUR CITY WEBSITES PROVIDE ADDITIONAL RESOURCES BOTH FROM THE STANDPOINT FROM A CITY STANDPOINT, CERTAINLY BE ON THE LOOKOUT. THERE'S A LOT MORE INFORMATION COMING AND, YOU KNOW , CERTAINLY WHY WE CAN DO THIS INITIAL CODE UPDATE AND REGULATIONS. THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE STUCK WITH IT FOREVER. CERTAINLY AS WE LEARN MORE, AND I THINK THAT'S ANOTHER CONSIDERATION FOR YOU KNOW, BOARDS AND STAFF. UM IS YOU KNOW WHERE DO YOU WANT TO START? RIGHT. DO YOU WANT TO START MORE FROM SERVE A TIVE, MORE LIBERAL, BUT CERTAINLY YOU CAN DO CODE UPDATES AND SORT OF TWEAK IT AS YOU LEARN MORE RIGHT AND SEE HOW IT ACTUALLY WORKS IN THE REAL WORLD. UM, AFTER ITS ADOPTED SO RESIDENTIAL AND VILLAGE CENTER, RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL, I WOULD I WOULD AIR ON THE SIDE OF CONSERVATIVE ON THE FEBRUARY THAT YOU CAN ALWAYS LIVER YOU CAN ALWAYS LIBERATE AND MORE LIBERAL LATER. BUT WE DON'T WE COULD. IF WE DON'T WE GO LIBERAL . WE COULD END UP WITH THE WIRES AND THE POST IN THE POLLS EVERYWHERE. IT WOULD BE MY CAUTION. DO YOU HAVE ONE FOLLOW UP QUESTION REGARDING THE FORESIGHTED ARCHITECTURE AND THINKING, IS IT IS IT ALL OR NOTHING LIKE EITHER, EITHER YOU YOU DO THE FORESIGHTED. OR. AND I GUESS PROHIBIT ALL PANELS IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS OR DO YOU SAY NO, IT'S OK. IT'S OK TO HAVE THEM IF THEY'RE NOT FACING THE PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY. I'M NOT SURE PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY IS THE RIGHT WORD. I THINK THAT THERE ARE PROBABLY EXAMPLES OF DESIGNS THAT WOULD. TURNED THOSE PANELS INWARD IN A WAY THAT WOULD REALLY BE PRETTY INCONSPICUOUS AND REALLY WOULD HAVE NO IMPACT WHATSOEVER ON THE NEIGHBORS VIEW OR ANYTHING. IT'S JUST AGAIN BACK TO THE SOLAR READY, YOU KNOW, DESIGN APPROACH, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE CONTEMPLATED AT THAT LEVEL, I THINK I THINK IT CAN BE DONE. I'M SURE IT CAN BE DONE. BUT I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE AN ISSUE PERSONALLY. FACING THE RIGHT AWAY, NOT FACING THE RIGHT AWAY OR BECAUSE IT COULD BE JUST AS PROBLEMATIC FACING THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OR THE REAR YARD OR VIEWS, AND I MEAN THERE'S JUST SO MANY THINGS THAT COULD COMPLICATE THAT. I THINK IT HAS TO GO BACK TO GOOD DESIGN CRITERIA THAT'S COMPATIBLE WITH THE USE AS OPPOSED TO SAYING PRESCRIPTIVE, YOU KNOW, FRONT BACK SIDE. I DON'T THINK THOSE ARE GOING TO GET THE JOB DONE JUST AS THERE ARE ISOLATED SITES WITHIN THE VILLAGE CENTER THAT WE'VE ALLOWED. LOT OF LATITUDE AND THE ARCHITECTURAL OUTCOME OF WHAT'S BUILT. THERE'S PROBABLY THERE'S ISOLATED SITES WITHIN ANY PARTICULAR. AH PROPERTY THAT WOULD SUPPORT SOLAR AND A IN A WAY THAT WOULDN'T BE DISRUPTIVE TO THE NEIGHBORS IN THE COMMUNITY. AGREED. THIS HAS BEEN MYSTIC, BUT THIS IS KIND OF MYSTICAL ANSWERS. LOOK TO YOUR
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SOUL IS WHAT I THINK ANDREW'S. THIS HAS BEEN INCREDIBLY HELPFUL . UM I HAVE WE CAN SEND OUT THESE SLIDES. BUT I HAVE MY EMAIL HERE IF YOU WANT TO SEND ANY FOLLOW UP, THOUGHTS, ANYTHING SPECIFIC? DON'T HESITATE TO REACH OUT. UM BUT WE REALLY DO APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.THANK YOU. AND I GUESS COMMENTING AGAIN. AS WE SAID, WE CAN ALWAYS UPDATE THE SLIGHTLY WE HAVE THE LUXURY. COOL COUNCIL MEMBER HERE. WE HAVE BLOOD TREATMENT. EXCELLENT STAFF. SO WE KNOW THAT WE KNOW THAT THERE'S THIS HIS GOING TO BE KEPT ON AND WE. WE DON'T GET IT EXACTLY RIGHT THE FIRST TIME, HOPEFULLY GET IT RIGHT EVENTUALLY AND THAT IF WE GO CONSERVATIVE IT'S EASIER TO AVOID. DISASTERS. ABSOLUTELY THANKS AGAIN. EVERYBODY FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT. WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK. SURE THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM OUR MEMBERS. NO THEN WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. CERTAIN SORRY. GO AHEAD, PLEASE.
WHO MADE THE NOTION I'M LOOKING THE NOT, I'VE MOVED ALL I'M GOING TO DO TODAY. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. MR MALLETS? YES MISS MORE. YES, MR STROLLER. MR HENSON? YES MR EATON? YES, MOTIONS TO A DRINK. THANK YOU, EVERYBODY, AS ALWAYS. I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THIS BOARD.
LIKEWISE WELCOME TO THE WE'RE SO GLAD TO HAVE YOU ENJOY THE SPIRIT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, STEVE. AS
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