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ALRIGHT. AFTERNOON EVERYBODY OR EVENING. MY NAME IS GEORGE TRIBUTE. AND UH, I HAVE PRIVILEGE OF I GUESS. GAVELING THE PROCEEDINGS HERE THIS EVENING. UM I WANT TO WELCOME EVERYBODY TO AT THAT TIME WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A VERY LONG AGENDA. IT LOOKS LIKE SO I'D LIKE TO MOVE ALONG A VERY MUCH A STICKLER FOR GETTING A DONUT IN TIME, SO WE WILL MOVE RIGHT ALONG. CAN WE CALL THE ORDER, PLEASE? MR STRIPPING HERE. MS STEELMAN. EVERYONE COULD TURN THEIR MICROPHONES ON PRESENT MISS PARTY. HERE, MR HARMON. MS CHOPPER HERE. MR NINI HERE GOTTEN HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER FELLOWS. WE HAVE SIX VOTING MEMBERS PRESENT. WE HAVE A CORN.
THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY ADDITIONS TO THE MEETING? THERE ARE NO THANK YOU. I TAKE IT WE'VE ALL HAD TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE AGENDA AND THE CORRESPONDENCE TO THE AGENDA.
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AND WE WANT TO DO ACTION ON THE MOMENT. MINUTES YES, PLEASE. THEY WERE LENGTHY. I DON'T I THINK THEY LOOK PRETTY ACCURATE . BASED ON THE LAST MEETING, I SAW TYPO SOMEWHERE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS. I'LL SEND IT TO YOU HAD GONE ON PAGE SIX. I WOULD JUST NOTE THAT I HAD AN EXTRA BE IN STRATEGIC. AND UH, SORRY, DIRECTOR ALBRECHT TWICE. BETTER OKAY, MADE THOSE CORRECTIONS AND THEN TYPE OF MS SHOPPERS NAME IN THE WORLD CAR, AND I CORRECTED THAT. THANK YOU. YEAH. BUT THEY LOOK FINE. EVERYBODY LOOK AT MHM GET A CHANCE TO MAKE A MOTION TO PROMOTION TO SECOND PLACE SECOND THANK YOU. MR. YES. MS STILLMAN? YES. THIS PART HERE. I'M STILL HAVING A PERMANENT VOTE. YES THANK YOU, MISS SHOPPER. YES. MR COTTON? YES. MR STRIPPING? YES. I HAVE SIX VOTES TO APPROVE THE MINUTES. OKAY? ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE A BIG AGENDA HERE TONIGHT, TURNING ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS[IV. Additions or corrections to agenda]
TO THAT AGENDA. KNOWN FROM STEP WE'RE GOOD. ALL RIGHT PAST THAT. THANK YOU. I GUESS WE'RE GONNA HAVE A HEARING. FROM VISITORS. THIS IS THE TIME NO. VISITORS SOON THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME CONVERSATION WOULD BE FOR ITEMS NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. OH OKAY . THERE ARE THERE ARE NO ITEMS UNDER AGENDA THEN. ADDITIONAL THAT WE WERE SAYING, CORRECT, CORRECT. VERY GOOD. I'M CONFUSED. AND HATE. YOU CAN PROCEED WITH THE FIRST CASE. PRESENTER. THAT WOULD BE ME. I[VI. Cases:]
DON'T THINK WE'VE MET AND CHELSEA NICHOLS. I THINK I MET THE REST OF YOU IN MARCH. AND I'M HAPPY TO BE HERE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, CHELSEA. OKAY YOU THE APPLICATION BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING IS A REQUEST FROM THE APPLICANT FOR A REVIEW AND RECOMMENDATION TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION REGARDING THE SUITABILITY OF THE PARKLAND AND OPEN SPACE PROPOSED AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD AND JUG STREET ROAD NORTHWEST. INTERSECTION. THE SITE IS 63.5 ACRES AND ZONE TO ALLOW FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF 100 AND 51. LOT AGE RESTRICTED RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION KNOWN AS COURTYARDS, HAINES CREEK. THE FIRST POINT OF REVIEW IS WITH REGARD TO SIDEWALK IN NATURE TRAIL. THE PLAN DOES MEET THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. THE TEXT REQUIRES THAT THE APPLICANT INSTALL A 5 FT WIDE SIDEWALK. SHOWN IN RED ON THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF SIDEWALK WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT IS APPROXIMATELY TWO MILES. THE TEXT ALSO REQUIRES THE DEVELOPER TO INSTALL AN 8 FT WIDE LEISURE TRAIL WITHIN THE[00:05:09]
DEVELOPMENT IS SHOWN ON THE SCREEN WITH THE BLUE DASHED LINE. AND THE PROPOSED LEISURE TRAIL EQUALS TO BE ABOUT 1.3 MILES. THE CITY IS WORKING WITH THE FRANKLIN COUNTY ENGINEER ON ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS ALONG CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD. THROUGH HERE WHERE IT TURNS INTO JUG STREET. AND BASED ON THE OUTCOME OF THOSE, UM DETERMINATIONS ON WHAT THE ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS WILL BE LIKE IN THIS AREA, THIS LEISURE TRAIL ALONG JUG STREET AND THE EASTERN PORTION OF CENTRAL COLLEGE MAY GO AWAY. BUT THEY WOULD STILL BE PROVIDING THE LEISURE TRAIL WITHIN THE GREEN SPACE. TO THE SOUTH OF THE BASIN AND RESERVE. A UM, STAFF BELIEVES THAT THE TRAIL UM TO THE SOUTH OF THE BASIN IS A GOOD ALTERNATIVE THROUGH THE GREEN SPACE AS OPPOSED TO HAVING TRAIL ALONG THE STREET. UM, EVEN IF THIS SECTION ALONG THE STREET GOES AWAY. THE TRAIL WITHIN I RESERVED A WOULD BE MEETING THIS FEAR AND INTENT OF THE CODE. DUE TO THESE POTENTIAL CHANGES.STAFF RECOMMENDS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL. FINAL ALIGNMENT OF THE TRAIL BE DETERMINED AND SUBJECT TO APPROVAL BY STAFF. THE SECOND POINT OF REVIEW IS WITH REGARD TO THE PARK LI ENGINE OPEN SPACE . THESE AREAS ARE MADE UP OF MULTIPLE RESERVES. NEW ALBANESE CODE REQUIRES 2400 SQUARE FEET PER HOME BE DEDICATED AS PARKLAND IN 20% OF THE TOTAL ACREAGE AND THE SUBDIVISION BE DEDICATED AS OPEN SPACE. FOR THIS SUBDIVISION. THE TOTAL MINIMUM REQUIRED PARKLAND AND OPEN SPACES 21.01 ACRES. THE APPLICANT IS PROVIDING MULTIPLE RESERVE AREAS. THAT CONSISTS OF EITHER OPEN SPACE OR PARKLAND TOTALLY TO 17.66 ACRES. THERE IS A TABLE IN THE TOP RIGHT CORNER . IT'S HARD TO SEE ON THE SCREEN, BUT THIS WAS PROVIDED IN YOUR APPLICATION MATERIALS THAT GIVES A BREAKDOWN OF WHAT IS REQUIRED AND WHAT IS PROPOSED. EVERYTHING OUTLINED WITH THE RED DASH IS GOING TO BE OWNED BY THE CITY AND MAINTAINED BY THE WAY. THE ONLY EXCEPTION IS THE AREA.
AND THAT'S YELLOW ORANGE DASH LINE THAT WILL BE OWNED AND MAINTAINED BY THE H O A. BECAUSE THIS IS THE PRIVATE AMENITY RESERVE. WE WILL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT OF FEW MINUTES. UH THE PROPOSAL DOES NOT MEET THE CODE REQUIREMENTS WITH REGARD TO THE AMOUNT OF PARKING AND OPEN SPACE BECAUSE THERE IS A 3.35 ACRE DEFICIENCY. YES DEFICIENCY WAS STABLIZATION AT THE TIME OF THE REZONING AND PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN. THE APPLICANT HAS COMMITTED IN THE ZONING TEXT TO PROVIDE A FEAT IN LIEU PAYMENT FOR THE OFFSET AND THIS AMOUNT AND THE PAYMENT ITSELF WILL BE REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL AT THE TIME OF THE FINAL PLAN APPLICATION. BEING THE FIRST FEW RESERVE AREAS ARE RESERVED A, B, C AND J. THESE ARE THE PERIMETER AREAS AND PROVIDE TREE PRESERVATION AND BUFFERING. RESERVED A. THIS IS THE LOCATION CONSISTS OF A LARGE BASIN WETLANDS TREE PRESERVATION , A STREAM, A PAVILION AND LEISURE TRAIL. RESERVES. B CONSISTS OF TREE PRESERVATION AND RESERVE, SEE. CONSISTS OF A BASED ON A STREAM AND ADDITIONAL TREE PRESERVATION. THE DEVELOPER IS REQUIRED TO PROVIDE NATURAL BRASS IS IN THIS AREA. NO ARTIFICIAL PESTICIDES OR FERTILIZER ARE PERMITTED. AND YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THERE ARE FOR LOTS LOCATED WITHIN THIS AREA. DURING THE RE ZONING HEARING, CITY COUNCIL DIRECTED THE APPLICANT TO RELOCATE UP TO FOUR UNITS. THAT HAD PREVIOUSLY BEEN LOCATED ALONG THE WESTERN
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PROPERTY LINE. AND THE FOUR HOMES WERE RELOCATED TO THIS AREA IN THE NORTH PORTION OF THE SITE. BUT THAT IS WHY THERE ARE FOUR HOMES BACKING UP ONTO OPEN SPACE. THOSE HOMES HAD PREVIOUSLY BEEN LOCATED AND RESERVED J. BUT RESERVED J IS NOW BEING DEDICATED TO PROVIDE FOR ADDITIONAL TREE PRESERVATION. RESERVES D E F G R AREAS LOCATED ALONG THE EASTERN SIDE OF HAINES CREEK DRIVE. THESE ARE TO PROVIDE A BUFFER AND LANDSCAPING. THERE WAS A SHEET IN YOUR PACKET THAT SHOWED SOME TYPICALLY ESCAPING. RESERVE H IS THE COMMUNITY AMENITY AREA , WHICH CONSISTS OF A CLUB HOUSE WITH A POOL COMMUNITY GARDEN, BOCHY COURT AND PICKLE BALL COURTS. THE APPLICANT ALSO PROVIDED ELEVATIONS OF WHAT THE CLUBHOUSE WOULD LOOK LIKE ON ALL SIDES AND PROVIDED A FLOOR PLAN OF WHAT WOULD BE ON THE INSIDE OF THE CLUBHOUSE. THE FINAL TWO RESERVE AREAS ARE K AND I, THESE AREAS WILL BE USED AS GREEN SPACE UP AND EVENTUALLY CAN SERVE AS FUTURE STREET EXTENSION IF AND WHEN DEVELOPMENT OCCURS TO THE WEST. IN SUMMARY, THE PARKLAND AND OPEN SPACES GENERALLY CONSISTENT WITH THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND MEETS THE TEXT REQUIREMENTS. THE APPLICATION INCLUDES MANY OF THE SAME DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT HAVE MADE MORE RECENT SUBDIVISIONS SUCCESSFUL, INCLUDING PROVIDING MEANINGFUL OPEN SPACE AND PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY. THE PLAN FOR THIS SUBDIVISIONS PARK LEE AND OPEN SPACE ADDS TO THE CREATION OF THE PARK SYSTEM AND WHICH IS SATISFIED THAT NEED OF VARIETY OF USER GROUPS WITH BOTH ACTIVE AND PASSIVE RECREATION OPTIONS. THE PLAN THAT POSITIVELY ATTRIBUTES TO THE CONNECTION OF PARKS AND GREEN SPACE AND NATURAL CORRIDORS WITH LEADER TRAILS. AND SHOULD BE BORED. RECOMMEND APPROVAL STAFF RECOMMENDS THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE STACK REPORT AND WE ARE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. I HAVE QUESTIONS. UM, ON THE. THE SHORTAGE OF 3.35 ACRES OF THE REQUIRED OPEN SPACE OF 7.66. THAT'S ABOUT 19% OF THE REQUIREMENT. I KNOW IT'S TYPICAL THAT IT'S MITIGATED ELSEWHERE. IS THERE ANY OTHER? SHARING EITHER PLACE IN THIS DEVELOPMENT THAT THAT COULD BE FOUND. IT'S PART OF THE REZONING APPLICATION PLANNING CONDITIONS. CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE I GUESS THAT, UH, THE DEVELOPER TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO FIND THAT OPEN SPACE IN PARKLAND OFF SITES OR PAY A FEE. AND SO IN THIS CASE, THE DEVELOPER HAS PROPOSED TO MAKE A FEED PAYMENTS IN LIEU OF THAT DEDICATION. BUT APPEARS BASED ON THE, UH THE DENSITY AND CITY COUNCIL'S APPROVAL THAT THAT WILL HAVE TO TAKE PLACE OUTSIDE OF THIS DEVELOPMENT OR FEED PAYMENT WILL BE MADE. I KNOW THAT'S TYPICAL TO BE DONE, BUT THAT'S WHAT THE PERCENTAGE SEEMED A LITTLE HIGH FOR ITS ONLY 17 ACRES REQUIRED, BUT YOU KNOW, ALMOST 20% OF IT ISN'T BEING DONE, OKAY? SO DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? CAN I SEE THE TRAILS AND SIDEWALKS AGAIN? SO THERE SEEMS TO BE QUITE A BIT OF GREEN SPACE THAT IS ONLY ACCESSIBLE BY CERTAIN HOUSEHOLDS. SO THAT COULD BE A CONCERN TO ME. IS THE FOUR THAT WERE ADDED TO THE FOUR THAT WERE ADDED. I LIKE THAT. THERE'S GREEN SPACE IN BETWEEN BEFORE THAT WERE ADDED THERE. I DON'T SEE ANY OF THERE'S PEOPLE GOING BEHIND THOSE HOMES INTO THAT LITTLE TUCKED IN CORNER BECAUSE IS THERE A REASON WHY THOSE ARE WIDER. AND DON'T GO ALL THE WAY BACK, AND MAYBE WE CAN PULL OUT[00:15:10]
A COUPLE ON THAT CORNER SO PEOPLE COULD ACCESS THE GREEN SPACE. MAYBE. SO I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE DIMENSIONS THAT DEVELOPERS ARE AND PERHAPS THEY CAN SPEAK TO THE SIZE OF A LOTS , UM, AND SAYS PART OF CITY COUNCIL'S APPROVAL OF THE REZONING. UM THEY ALLOWED THE DEVELOPER TO MOVE THOSE LOTS OVER TO THIS LOCATION. I THINK IT'S A GREAT A QUESTION ABOUT ACCESSIBILITY. I THINK CERTAINLY THERE ARE EDGES HERE IN THE LEISURE TRAIL HERE. WHERE IF DESIRE THAT, YOU KNOW A RESIDENT OR ANYONE WALKING ALONG AMERICAN ACCESS THAT AREA, BUT NOT ALL OF THE DEVELOPER. GO INTO A LITTLE BIT LIKE WHAT THIS MEANS IS WHAT THIS SERVICE BUT THIS ACTUALLY IS SERVED AS, UM, I GUESS SORT OF AS A FLOOD BASIN FLOODWAY. THERE'S A LARGE, UM I DON'T KNOW. IT'S A WETLAND, TECHNICALLY, BUT LARGE NATURAL AREA WATER BODY UP HERE AND THEN ACTUALLY TRAINS THIS WAY AND SO IT WILL GO INTO THIS POND FOR STORM WATER QUALITY, AND THEN PART OF THAT ALSO RUNS INTO THE STREAM. THAT'S RIGHT HERE THAT CHELSEA MENTIONED, SO WE DO THINK BASED ON THE LAYOUT OF THE HOLMES. WE DON'T THINK IT WILL BE ACCESSED IN BETWEEN THE HOUSES. BUT IT APPEARS THAT IT COULD BE ACCESSED. CERTAINLY WITHIN THIS AREA HERE POTENTIALLY HERE AS WELL, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF THE TIME IT WILL BE WET BACK THERE AND PROBABLY, UM, UNFRIENDLY. THE IDEA. ALSO, AS PART OF THE ZONING WAS TO LET THIS TO BE NATURALIZED, SO I WANT TO BE REGULARLY MODE LIKE THIS WILL PROBABLY BE WHAT SHE WOULD SEE, LIKE, KIND OF LIKE WAIST HIGH GRASSES THAT ARE LIKE THE NATIVE PLANTINGS WITHIN THAT AREA. I JUST THINK OF GREEN SPACE ACCESSIBLE BY EVERYONE THAT LIVES THERE. MHM I'M NOT SAYING THAT OVER THERE. I HAVE A COMMENT. I WOULD AGREE WITH TRICIA ON THAT. IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IF 1 51 54 WEREN'T THERE. IT WOULD SEEM LUNCHES SEEM LIKE ACCESSIBLE TO EVERYONE, BUT OTHERWISE THAT WOULD JUST SEEM LIKE PRIVATE BACKYARDS AND NOT OPEN AND ACCESSIBLE. AND THAT GREEN SPACES PART OF WHAT'S CALCULATED AND ARE ALREADY 20% EFFICIENCY. THAT'S CORRECT. YEAH PLEASE. YEAH. I THINK THE DEVELOPER HAS AN ADDITIONAL CONTEXT. MY NAME IS LINDA MANERI WITH THE EMERGENT E AND I'M A PLANNER AND LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, AND I WANT TO JUST TAKE A COUPLE OF MINUTES TO TALK ABOUT THOSE THINGS SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF HISTORY ABOUT THAT UPPER PORTIONS. SO WHEN WE INITIALLY STARTED THIS, THERE WAS A LARGE STEP BACK THERE.THERE'S CONSERVATION AREA. ALREADY IN AN EASEMENT TO THE NORTH, AND THERE'S CONSERVATION . HE'S MEANT TO THE EAST. SO THAT WAS WHERE THAT BIG WETLAND A POND IS, UM THE POND HAS A LITTLE BIT OF A BREACH IN IT, AND IT'S BEEN LEAKING ACROSS THE UPPER PART OF THIS PROPERTY.
OKAY SO THAT'S THE NATURAL FLOW THAT IT WOULD DO, REGARDLESS, IF THE WATER GETS TOO HIGH IT, YOU KNOW IT'LL BREACH IN AND WE'LL GO OVER IT. SO THERE'S TWO FOLD THINGS THAT HAPPENED BACK THERE.
ONE WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THAT DRAINAGE. AND THE AND THE SUBDIVISION THAT IS TO THE EAST OF US. THEY'RE WORKING ON FIXING THAT, OKAY? BUT IF YOU GET TO HAVE A RAIN OR OR SOMETHING THAT HAS A TENDENCY, TENDENCY OR POTENTIAL TO FOLLOW THE NATURAL DRAINAGE COURSE, WHICH IS ALONG THE BACK THERE AND THEN INTO A LITTLE DRAINAGE AREA THAT'S IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE SITE, WHICH ON THE DRAWING IS KIND OF DOWN ON THE BOTTOM LEFT. OKAY SO WE HAVE TO ACCOMMODATE THAT NATURAL FLOW THAT COMES THROUGH THERE. IN ADDITION, YOU HAVE HOMES THAT ARE ON THE EAST PROPERTY LINE. AND THEN WE NOW HAVE THESE FOUR HOMES THAT ARE ALONG THE NORTHERN DRIVE. WE HAVE TO ACCOMMODATE THAT STORM WATER. IT HAS TO BE TAKEN TO THE POND CLEANED AND THEN RELEASED SO WE CAN'T MIX THOSE TWO PARTICULAR DRAINAGE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING IF THAT MAKES SENSE. SO THAT PARTICULAR AREA IS KIND OF LEFT IN A NATURAL STATE. SO YOU HAVE A LITTLE SWAIL FROM THE NORTH PROPERTY LINE. IT'S GRADED DOWN. IT PICKS UP ANY DRAINAGE THAT MIGHT COME FROM THAT WETLAND AREA TO THE EAST. AND THEN WE HAVE THE DRAINAGE THAT WE PICK UP ON THE BACK OF THE LOTS. SO YOU ASK ABOUT THAT AREA? I THINK I NEED TO STEP BACK. IS EVERYBODY FAMILIAR WITH F CON? OKAY SO YOU HAVE THE COURTYARDS AT NEW ALL BE ALREADY. OUR PRODUCT IS GEARED TOWARDS OVER 55. TARGETED THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT IS 90. AID RESTRICTED, UM. COURTYARD LIVING SO THERE ISN'T ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS IN THE BACK OF THESE HOMES. YOU DON'T GET OH, TRASH, YOU DON'T GET SWING SETS. YOU DON'T GET ANY OF THAT KIND OF STUFF. THERE AREN'T KIDS. IT'S ALL CONTAINED IN THAT SIDE COURTYARD. DO YOU WANT TO FLIP TO THE SECOND SHEET? MISTAKE. GO ANOTHER OH, MARY. HERE'S THE NEXT. THIS ISN'T YOUR
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PACKET. IT'S AN EXAMPLE OF HOW THAT THOSE PSYCH COURTYARDS LIVE . OKAY SO YOU DON'T HAVE ANYBODY THAT'S IN THE BACK. SO THE THOUGHT ABOUT THE BEING ABLE TO GO ON THE BACK OF THOSE FOUR HOMES. ANYBODY COULD WALK BACK THERE. THERE'S NO GATES GATES THAT BLOCK SO YOU COULD WALK AROUND EITHER OF THOSE TWO ENDS AND WALK DOWN THE PAGE. YOU WANT TO TAKE YOUR DOG AND YOU WANT TO GO BACK THERE. BUT THE HOMEOWNERS HAVE A GATE IN THE HIGH GRASS. THEY WE DON'T AUTOMATICALLY PUT IN A GATE IN THE BACK. IT'S USUALLY JUST FENCED OFF THERE. THEY HAVE A GATE THAT COMES IN OFF THE FRONT, SO HAVE BECOME IN THE FRONT OF THE UNIT. THERE'S A GATE ON THE RIGHT. THOSE FOUR UNITS ARE ACTUALLY TURNED SIDEWAYS. ON THE LOT. SO IT'S KIND OF A SIDE YOUR SIDE LOAD GARAGE IN THAT COURTYARD, THEN ACTUALLY FACES THE STREET, SO WE'VE GIVEN A LITTLE EXTRA DEPTH ON THAT TO BE ABLE TO LANDSCAPE AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE EXAMPLES THAT'S IN YOUR PLANT. OH THE LEAVES. YOUR TRAIL IS REMOVED FROM SIMPLE COLLEGE AS PART OF THIS PLANT. MHM THAT LEAVES YOUR TRAIL, THEN BE. OR PLACE IN THAT NORTHWEST, THE NORTHERN SECTION IN THAT GREEN SPACE, SO YOU WILL HAVE SOME OF THE RESIDENTS CAN USE HAVE A LEISURE CHAIRIL ON THE BACK ON THE NORTH SIDE. FLOOR LEISURE RIGHT BECAUSE THERE'S PROBABLY A COST SAVINGS RIGHT THEN. YEAH SO REMEMBER RIGHT NOW, IF YOU GO BACK TO THE OTHER PLAN, THERE ARE TRAILS GOING TO GO AWAY. CAN YOU PUT IT ON THE BACK SIDE, SO WE'VE GOT A LEISURE TRAIL THAT WE'VE ACTUALLY ADDED NEXT TO THE BIG POND NORTH OF THE TREES TO BE ABLE TO COME TO ACCOMMODATE THAT. YOU KNOW, REMEMBER, WE GOT THE WHOLE JUG THAT'S GONNA END UP GETTING REALIGNED THERE. SO THE WHOLE POINT IS, WE NEED TO WORK WITH STAFF CONTINUE TO WORK WITH ENGINEERING. FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW? DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO PUT THAT IN NOW? PROBABLY NOT. IF THE ROAD'S GONNA END UP DOING SOME OTHER ALIGNMENT, SO WE'RE PROVIDING AN INTERNAL CONNECTION FROM JUG. ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF OUR RESERVE A POND. TYING BACK INTO OUR NORTH SOUTH ROAD, WHICH IS LEFT AND RIGHT ON THIS PLAN.AND THEN BACK DOWN TO CENTRAL COLLEGE WITH THE HOPE THAT SOMEDAY THE REST OF THAT CONNECTION HAPPENS DOWN TO TIDEWATER. SO THAT YELLOW PATIO POINTER. I'M SORRY. I CAN'T. CAN YOU USE A LASER POINTER CAN THANK YOU SO MUCH THAT YELLOW, THEIR PATIO, THE YELLOW IS THAT THE ORIENTATION OF THAT? SO THAT ACTUALLY IF YOU LOOK AT THE PLAN THAT TALKS ABOUT WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN WITH THE ARCHITECTURE AND WITH THE LANDSCAPE OF THAT AREA , SO ANYTHING THAT HAS THAT KIND OF YELLOW GOLD ON IT MEANS THAT THERE'S UM SOME ADDITIONAL DETAILING LANDSCAPE AND ARCHITECTURE THAT HAS TO HAPPEN. SO. CENTRAL COLLEGE HERE. THIS IS PROBABLY GOING TO TAKE SOME OTHER ALIGNMENT. IT'S PROBABLY NOT LIKELY THAT'S GOING TO DO THIS WITH THIS EXISTING STREAM.
THAT'S HERE. SO THIS IS KIND OF IN A HOLDING PATTERN. UNTIL SOME DISCUSSIONS HAPPEN. SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS PROVIDING THIS CONNECTION HERE. LEISURE TELL CONNECTION BUT THEN TIES INTO A DOUBLE LEISURE TRAIL ON THE NORTH SOUTH ROAD AND THEN CONNECTION HERE THAT WILL THE I THINK THE THOUGHT WITH LARGER MASTER PLANNING EFFORTS IS THAT THERE THERE'S CONNECTIVITY THAT HAPPENS TO THE WEST. SO THAT FURTHER REDUCE THE GREEN SPACE OVER THERE. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? JUGGS JUGGS STREET MOVES WILL THAT REDUCE THE GREEN SPACE HERE. RIGHT BUT THE GREEN SPACE TO ALL OF THIS OPEN SPACE, RIGHT BUT YOUR PLANS. IT SHOWS KIND OF SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN YOUR AND YOU'RE ENGAGED. THEY'RE GONNA TAKE THAT AS TURN SUGGESTING THAT SOME OF THAT GOES AWAY.
WE'LL GO THROUGH THE FIELD, RIGHT? SOME OF THE GREEN SPACE THAT THEY'RE COMMITTING TO WILL GO AWAY BECAUSE OF THE ROAD. I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT ANY OF THIS GOES AWAY, LIKELY IT WILL GO FROM SORT OF ANSWER THE THIS YEAH. SO THE ANSWER IS NO, IT WON'T SO ANY CURRENT OR FUTURE ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS WILL BE INSIDE OF THE RIGHT OF WAY. SO THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS HAPPENING HERE. THERE'S PRIVATE LANDS WHERE THE HOMES WILL BE BUILT. THERE'S PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. WHERE LIKE THE STREETS AND ALLEYS GO, AND THEN THE THIRD THING IS THESE RESERVES AND SO ANY TYPE OF STREET IMPROVEMENTS , AND THIS INCLUDES LIKE LEISURE TRAILS AND SIDEWALKS ALONG THE FRONTAGE. ALL OF THAT IS CONTAINED WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY, AND THAT IS NOT CALCULATED AS PART OF THE RESERVES ARE THOSE OPEN SPACE AND PARK LANE CALCULATIONS. SO REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE PUBLIC STREAKED HERE. UM THERE WILL BE NO IMPACT TO THE AMOUNT OF OPEN
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SPACE AND PARKLAND LOCATED. WHAT'S IN THIS RESERVE OR ANY OF THE OTHERS BACK TO THE ORIGINAL QUESTIONS, SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THESE FOUR HOMES THAT WAS FIVE HOMES THAT GET TO ENJOY THAT SPACE, POSSIBLY IS THERE A WAY TO MAKE THAT MORE ACCESSIBLE FOR PEOPLE OR YOU'RE SAYING THAT IT'S A FLOOD ZONE, AND YOU CAN'T NO, WE'RE NOT TAKING THE FLOOD ZONE. IT'S LIKE 100 YEAR. NO RIGHT NOW THERE'S A GRADED SWELL THAT COMES THROUGH HERE. AND THEN THERE'S SOME DRAINAGE THAT GETS PICKED UP PICKED UP ALONG THE BACK. OKAY THAT WOULD BE A NICE PLACE FOR A LEISURE TRAIL.OR A DOG PARK. IS THERE A DOCTOR PART? SORRY AND GETTING AHEAD OF MYSELF. SO I DID NOTICE IN THE PLAN THAT I THINK SOME OF YOUR COMMUNITIES HAVE A DOG PARK. AND IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT 55 AND OLDER, I THINK A LOT OF THEM HAVE PETS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO IS THAT COULD WOULD YOU CONSIDER SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND MAKING IT ACCESSIBLE BETWEEN THOSE TWO? AT LEAST SO IT COULD BE PUBLIC. I THINK ONE WEEKEND TAKE A LOOK AT THE VIABILITY OF TRYING TO GET SOME ACCESS.
THROUGH HERE. YOU CAN HAVE A NIGHT. I CAN'T SAY IT WILL BE A FULL PLEASURE TRAIL. WE'VE JUST GOT TO LOOK AT THE GRADING AND KIND OF FIGURE OUT WOULD BE A NICE LOOP. IF YOU COULD BRING IT UP AND AROUND RIGHT SOMEHOW. UM AND I'M SURE OUR NEIGHBORS WILL TALK ABOUT THIS AREA AS WELL.
YEAH AND THEN AS FAR AS THE DOCTOR THINKS, HERE'S JASON COFFEE COMMUNITIES, HUNDREDS, HUNDREDS PARK WHERE IT MAY BE POSSIBLE, BUT CONFUSION WITH THE FOUR LIVES IT LOOKS LIKE CONNECTED AND THEREFORE THERE'S NOT AN OPEN SPACE BETWEEN. MM HMM. IF SOME DISTANCE BETWEEN THE FOUR THAT ARE ON THE SIDE. YOU MEAN YOU MEAN WEST SOUTHWEST? I MEAN, THERE COULD BE THE OTHER POINT. NOW YOU CAN SEE YOU'LL SEE IT ANYWAY. BUT IT'S MORE REPRESENTATIVE OF DR YOU SEE, OPEN SPACE AND GREENERY. IN THE WESTERNMOST, CURVED AND THEN ALSO ON THE EASTERNMOST. YEAH E OR WEST. IN THE SPACE BETWEEN THE TWO LOTS OF AND TWO CHIPS POINT COULD COULD THERE BE A TRAIL BETWEEN THOSE TWO JUST. TO SHOW PEOPLE THAT IT'S MHM CLICK SPACE SLIDING THIS WAY. YEAH I SEE THAT HERE LIKE YOU HAVE A GAP HERE ON THE CORNER. JUST MORE CENTRAL LIFE GIVEN IMPRESSION OF ACTIVE ACCESSIBILITY, BUT IT GOES BACK TO I THINK THE ENGINEERING QUESTION WHICH WE HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT THE COMMISSION COUNCIL THAT THIS IS REALLY SET UP AS EMERGENCY SPILLWAY. THINK ABOUT THE EMERGENCY SPILLWAY FAILURE BREACH. WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE GRAINS ALLOW US TO GO AROUND IMPACT OUR AREAS. WE ALSO HAVE NEIGHBORS TO NORTH WANT TO MAKE SURE THIS WAS MORE THAN APPLE AREA. LOVE, LOVE? NO.
GRASSES AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS, SO IT'S GONNA BE IMPORTANT, WE'D MY WORDS THAT WAS GONNA BE MORE AND MORE NATURAL LONG GRASSES. YEAH AND SO I DON'T THINK IT'S REALLY NECESSARILY CONDUCIVE TO PEOPLE WALKING THROUGHOUT THE THINGS BECAUSE IT'S NOT BEING MANICURED LAWNS. BUT I THINK THAT WOULD OPEN UP AND GIVE SPACE. YOU CAN SEE THE SPACE THE SPACE LIKE THAT. IS IT POSSIBLE TO PUT ALL THESE ER TRAIL AROUND, THERE WOULD BE ANOTHER AMENITY FOR THE COMMUNITY BEHIND THE FLOOR, BUT THROUGH THE CORNER AND BEHIND THE FLOOR AROUND THE NORTH NORTHERN EDGE, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT, AND I'M NOT SURE THAT WE CAN SAY 100% OR MORE WITH STAFF ON TAKING A LOOK AT THAT, BECAUSE WE DON'T OPPOSITE. LEAVE THE TRAILER PLUG. YEAH BUT WE CAN TO DRAINAGE AREAS THAT ARE GOING BACK THERE. ONE IS THE DRAINAGE THAT'S TAKING THE WETLAND POND. AND THEN THE SECOND IS THE GRADING THAT'S COMING OFF OF THE BACK OF PICKING UP THE WATER OFF THE BACK OF THE NEED TO THE WEST, AND WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THIS.
SEE IF WE CAN PUT IN GENERIC PERSPECTIVE OR SOMETHING TO CONNECT. REALLY NICE. LOOK IF YOU COULD DO IT BE A NICE LOOP FOR FOLKS TO GO OUTYEAH. ALSO IK THAT THAT WOULD BE TOO WET TO WALK THROUGH. IF I OWNED ONE OF THOSE FOUR PROPERTIES, I WOULD BE CONCERNED HOW IT IT IS RIGHT OUTSIDE MY DOOR. SO UM, GIGS ARE ALL SLAP LOTS, RIGHT? THEY'RE THEY'RE ON SLAB. THERE ISN'T A DOOR OUT THE BACK OF THAT. OKAY WELL, WHATEVER AROUND THE FOUNDATION OF MY HOME, I DON'T THINK THIS IS AN AREA THAT'S GOING TO BE SATURATED. OKAY IT'S PICKING UP BEFORE LOTS AND A SEPARATE SYSTEM THAT COMES TO THE POND. AND THEN IT'S GOT THIS EMERGENCIES SWELL THAT WE'RE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE DRAINAGE ASPECT. HOW THAT WORKS , BUT AGAIN, IF THERE CAN BE A TRAIL THAT COULD RUN UP THERE, AND IT WOULDN'T BE FLOODED, THEN IT'S NOT REALLY GOING TO BE THAT. WENT THERE BECAUSE IT'S GREAT PROPERLY CORRECT. I KNOW WITH MY DOG. I WOULD HAVE MY DOG
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AND SHE WOULD LOVE TO VIEW RUNNING THROUGH THE GRASS THERE . I DON'T EXPECT IT. IT'S GOING TO BE SATURATED ALL THE TIME. NO. I MEAN, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS HERE, AND 90% OF THE UNITS ARE 55 ACRE, RESTRICTIVE. CAN YOU POINT OUT WHERE THE 15 9 RESTRICTED THOUGHTS ARE. WE ALWAYS GET ASKED THIS QUESTION. IT'S NOT THAT IT'S LIKE A GROUND TODAY.WE'VE HAD ONE QUESTION. MM HMM. YEAH BOTTOM LINE. WAS THAT THE 90% SO THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE IT'S GONNA BE UP TO US AT FIRST AND THEN THE H O A AFTERWARDS KEEP TRACK OF TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE TO BUY I KNOW THAT THERE'S ONLY 15 10% OF THE NUMBER 15 UNITS CAN HAVE TWO WAYS KIDS DESIGNATED UNITS OF WHOLE COMMUNITIES THERE. PROBLEM IS GONNA BE UNDER THAT. BUT THEN THE MARKET AND AS LONG AS ONE PERSON IS ONE PERSON IS 55 OR OLDER. AND AS LONG AS ANY PERMANENT RESIDENTS ARE NOT UNDER THE AGE OF 21. IS THAT HOW I GOT IT? SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO DEFINE WHICH BLOCKS ARE THE MARKET? OKAY THINK. FRANKLY WE DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE AN EXACT NOTE. IT'S GOING TO BE BLESSED THEN. WHETHER IT'S 5 10 UP TO 15, BUT WE THINK IT'S TYPICALLY IN OUR COMMUNITIES AS MUCH LESS THAN ANY AGENTS SEARCHING QUESTION FOR YOU. SO COUPLE QUESTIONS. UM I DON'T WANT TO DRIVE YOU CRAZY AND AT ONE POINT BECAUSE I THINK IT'S BRO. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A DIFFERENT RENDITION OF THAT. UM SO ONE IS WHERE WOULD YOU CONNECT TO MCCLELLAND IN TIDEWATER? LIKE IS THAT THAT NAB RIGHT THERE? THERE'S STUFF.
HERE? YEAH. OKAY SO IS THAT AWFULLY COURT THERE AND THE OTHER ONE WOULD BE OFF MCCLELLAN. HERE? YES, OKAY. OKAY? SO ANOTHER QUESTION, SO TIDEWATER HAS 80 OR 90 HOMES. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYBODY FROM TAIWAN IN HERE. THEY DO NOT HAVE A PLAYGROUND. BUT ON AND I'M SURE THAT. 50% OF THESE PEOPLE HAVE GRANDCHILDREN THAT ARE COMING. SO IS THERE ANY OTHER THAN TRYING TO WHICH IS ANOTHER THING ON MY LIST, LIKE WHERE'S THE CONNECTIVITY TO THE EVENTUAL KITZMILLER? WHERE WILL ALL THOSE KIDS GO. DO WE HAVE A . SO BASED ON THE AGE RESTRICTION AND THE ANTICIPATED RESIDENTS LIVING WITHIN THIS SUBDIVISION, THE DEVELOPER IS NOT REQUIRED TO PUT IN THE TYPICAL PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT THAT DOES TYPICALLY GO IN OUR SUBDIVISIONS. AND SO THAT WAS REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY OUR PLANNING COMMISSION IN OUR CITY COUNCIL AS PART OF THE REZONING APPLICATIONS, OKAY? SORRY I MISSED THAT MEETING. THANK YOU.
SO THEY. REALLY ACTIVE AREA IS THE CLUBHOUSE AREA AND CHELSEA POINTED THAT OUT IN THE PLAN, WHICH IS RIGHT HERE, SO THAT CLUBHOUSE IS GETTING CLOSE TO 5000 SQUARE FEET IN AREA. IT'S GOT EXERCISE, BIG INTERIOR LIVING ROOM SPACE KITCHEN OFFICES, BATHROOMS FOR THE POOL.
HASN'T INDOOR OUTDOOR KIND OF PATIO AREA ON THE BACK THAT HAS A FIREPLACE THAT LEADS TO THE POOL. IT'S GOT A SCREEN IN PORCH AND THAT IT HAS ANOTHER OPEN PORCH. THAT'S THAT'S COVERED ON THE BACK. SO THERE THAT'S KIND OF A MAJOR GATHERING SPACE. THE POOL IS THERE YOUR GRANDKIDS CAN COME TO THE POOL. THERE'S A BOCCE COURT. GRANDKIDS ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO USE THE BODY COURT. OKAY, WE HAVE A REALLY SUCCESSFUL COMMUNITY GARDEN OVER THE COURTYARDS IN NEW ALBANY.
WE'RE REPLICATING THAT HERE. IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA. THERE IS A FAIRLY EXTENSIVE SHED THAT WE BUILD. IT HAS TOOLS THAT ARE IN IT HAS A WATER. SPEAK IT? WE HAVE ELEVATED TABLES TO DO PLANTINGS. THERE'S ELEVATED PLANT BEDS. IT'S REALLY HEAVILY USED. SO THAT'S ANOTHER AMENITY IN THE TWO PICKLEBALL COURTS. SO THERE IS A FAIR AMOUNT. PLUS GETTING ON YOUR BIKE RIDING AROUND THE PAVILION THAT WE'RE BUILDING, WHICH IS LOCATED UP HERE TUCKED IN THE WOODS. PICNIC TABLES IN THEM OVER AT THE COURT YEARS IN NEW ALBANY, SO DO THAT AS WELL. HAVE WE TALKED TO THE PROPERTIES ON THIS SIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT TO SEE IF THE TRAIL COULD CONNECT? YEAH I KNOW. ON THE. OWNERS OR NO ON THIS SIDE, SO, YEAH, I DON'T BELIEVE WE'VE TALKED. AT LEAST I HAVEN'T PERSONALLY TALKED TO THOSE HOMERS ABOUT PUTTING POSSIBILITY . PUTTING AWAY YOUR TRAIL ON THE FRONT EDGE THERE, OKAY? BUT I BELIEVE THEY'RE HERE TONIGHT. YEAH I THINK I LOVE THAT IDEA.
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AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT THAT YOU KNOW, I THINK BEING A 55 AND OVER COMMUNITY THAT WE'RE BUILDING 35 AND OVER COMMUNITIES ON THE OUTSKIRTS A LITTLE BIT OF NEW ALBANY, AND THAT LEAVES A TRAIL WAS CONNECTED. THAT'S 33 MILE RIDE UP TO BOTH DOUBLE HEIMER, THE PICKLE BALL COURTS THERE AND THE METRO PARK. SO YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'D BE A GOOD GOOD AUDITION.YEAH, THE CRITICAL GAP TO FILL. MY QUESTION WOULD BE IS THE POND. IS THAT GOING TO? THAT'S JUST NOT A DRAINAGE CATCH BASIN THAT IS GOING TO BE UPON. IT'S ALWAYS HOUSING HOLDING WATER.
BOTH OF THESE PLANS ARE DESIGNED TO HAVE A NORMAL POOL, WHICH IS ROUGHLY THIS WHITE AREA ON ON BOTH OF THEM AND THEN THE WAY THAT YOU'RE ZONING CODE READS. IT'S A VERY GENERAL 6 TO 1 SLOPE UP. SO THAT IN OUR PARTICULAR PLAN, HOW WE'RE ADDRESSING THAT , AS WE'RE LEAVING IT JUST A LAWN THAT COMES DOWN TO THE EDGE AND WE'RE AUGMENTING WITH NATIVE PLANTINGS, BOTH SHADE AND ORNAMENTAL TREES AT ALL TIMES. AND THOSE YEAH. ARE YOU NORMAL PLANNING ON MAKING THAT AN AMENITY YOU WITH MAYBE A FOUNTAIN OR BENCHES, FOUNTAINS ALLOWED. YOU KNOW, ALBANY, SO WE HAVE THEM. I JUST PUT ONE IN. PROMISE YOU THEY'RE ALLOWED. WELL WE'VE BEEN TOLD NO, THAT THEY NEED TO BE APPROVED. IF THEY'RE SORRY YOU CAN PUT THAT REQUEST THROUGH. LET ME KNOW IT TOOK US FOUR YEARS TO GET I FOUND RESIDENTS VERY EXPENSIVE LIGHTING. WOULD BE A NICE PARTY.
YEAH. YEAH IT JUST UPCOMING WITH YEAH. I MEAN, IT HELPS TO MOVE THE WATER AND YEAH, IT JUST LOOKS NICE. IT JUST FEELS NICER WHEN YOU COME HOME. HAVE A QUESTION. YOU COULD. YOU COULD MAKE IT A CONDITION TO PUT. I GOT TWO CONDITIONS FOR YOU, AND THAT'S THE MAXIMUM GOING IN OUR FRAMEWORKS PLAN TALKS ABOUT BEING THE NEEDS OF VARIETY OF USER GROUPS AND HAVING NECESSARY COMFORTS. UM WHEN I LOOK AT THE PICTURES THERE, AND THEY MAY JUST BE KIND OF EXAMPLES, BUT I'M WONDERING HOW MUCH UM, LIKE A D. A DISABILITY STUDIES HAVE GONE INTO THIS. IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT 55, AND OVER THAT TYPE OF PICNIC TABLE DOESN'T WORK FOR SOMEONE IN A WHEELCHAIR. UM ALSO FOR THE GARDENS TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOT ALL PEBBLES, BUT THERE'S SOME WHEELCHAIR ACCESSIBLE ACCESS. UM SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE HAD ANY HE'S LOOKING AT THAT WERE OPEN TO. I THINK WE'RE VERY COGNIZANT OF THAT IN TERMS OF THE SIDEWALKS AND THE FULL ACCESSIBILITYIB AND THOSE THINGS CURRENTLY, RIGHT NOW THE GARDEN IS ALL GRAVEL. UM THERE IS NOT A HARD PACKED AREA IN THAT. I'M TRYING TO ANYTHING ELSE. YOU GUYS ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT IN TERMS OF 88 AND YOU GET A LOT OF THINGS FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THE HOMES THEMSELVES. UM YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS SAY NO STEPS. WE TRY TO GO FOR ONE ENTRANCE AT ZERO STEPS. THAT'S OUR NAME COMPONENT THAT AND OBVIOUSLY STANDPOINT. FROM CLUBHOUSE AND COOL IN THOSE THINGS, BUT THEY ALSO THERE'S A LOT OF UNIVERSAL DESIGN ALLOW THOSE UNIVERSAL ZONE COMPONENTS HOUSES AS WELL.
SO WE'RE COGNIZANT OF, BUT AS FAR AS THE PARTICULAR WITH THE. GARDEN WE'RE NOT REALLY FOCUSED ON THAT, OR FOR THINK AGAIN. YEAH YEAH, BARGING WOULD BE THE SAME. THERE'S CERTAIN COMPONENTS THAT MAY NOT BE CONDUCIVE JUST FROM THE STANDPOINT OF ABUSED BUT THEIR HOMES AND ETCETERA WOULD BE SO AND THE PICKLE BALL WOULD BE. I MEAN, THAT'S PART OF SURFACE GETS TO IT. THIS CARD SERVICE. SO IF YOU WORKED RECENT WHEELCHAIR. BACK TO BE YEAH. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE LIKE ALL PICNIC TABLES TO HAVE ACCESS FOR SOMEONE TO BE ABLE TO WHICH YOU KNOW THERE'S DESIGNS FOR THAT, AND THEN UM IF THERE'S BENCHES ALONG THE SIDE. GRANDKIDS COULD SIT ON THE BENCH. BUT THEN THE WHEELCHAIR WILL BE BLOCKING THE PATH FOR EVERYONE. SO UM I DON'T KNOW ALL THE THINGS THAT WAS JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT COME TO MIND CRUTCHES NOW, SO I'M THINKING ABOUT THESE. THERE ARE PICNIC BENCHES THAT HAVE SEATS THAT SWIVEL THAT YOU CAN DO WHATEVER THE WAY. MM HMM.
JUST AN OPEN END UP A LITTLE MORE, UM, SAMANTHA SIDEWALK, THE SIDE BENCHES AND CAN WE DON'T KNOW WE WAS GOING TO ASK ABOUT PARKING, BUT MAYBE THAT'S NOT A PARK. PARKS AND TRAILS QUESTIONS THAT ON THE TABLE. PRETTY GOOD. GO AHEAD, AND I THINK I WAS JUST CURIOUS ABOUT, UM PUBLIC PARKING , BECAUSE I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT FISH AND WALK AND VISIT FRIENDS AND. YES SO ON THIS
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PARTICULAR PLAN STUDY AMENITY AREA. THERE IS A PARKING LOT AND THERE ARE QUITE A FEW SPACES THEY'RE GENERALLY ON STREET PARKING WOULD BE ANYWHERE ALONG EITHER SIDE OF THE STREET, WITH THE EXCEPTION IF THERE'S A FIRE HYDRANT SO THERE IS THE ABILITY TO PARK ALONG. ALL OF THESE STREETS. I DID WE COMMIT NOT TO PARK ON THE NORTH SOUTH. I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER. UH WE'LL HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK THAT, BUT, YEAH, I THINK YOU KNOW, PARKING FOR PARTS OR SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DISCUSSED. BUT I AGREE WITH LINDA. WHAT WE'VE DONE IN OTHER SUBDIVISIONS IS THERE'S ALWAYS ON STREET PARKING THAT IS ALLOWED, UM, ON ON AT LEAST ONE SIDE OF ALL THESE PUBLIC STREETS AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT THERE'S OFF STREET PARKING FOR THE CLUBHOUSE AND AMENITY AREA.FOR INSTANCE, THE STREET THIS WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE PARKING TO HIM. AT ANY RATE.
THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES. WE THINK ABOUT THAT. WITH THE PLAN IN TERMS OF PLACEMENT OF WATER LINE VERSUS SEWER LINE AND TRYING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE ADDITIONAL ON STREET PARKING. SO YOU DO HAVE THE ABILITY THERE'S MANY OF THESE STREETS THAT ARE NOT LOADED. LIKE HERE. WE'LL HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK WITH WHAT? WE TALKED ABOUT IT. I'M NOT SURE THAT WE RESTRICTED ON THE NORTH SOUTH STREET. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT IS WE HAVE A NEW PRODUCT THAT WE'RE PROPOSING IN THIS BECAUSE OF ADDING SOME HOUSING, DIVERSITY. AND THIS PARTICULAR BLOCK HERE ARE LANE HOMES. SO THEY ARE FRONT FACING ON THE NORTH SOUTH STREET. THERE'S NO DRIVEWAYS STREET WILL REALLY HAVE A DIFFERENT PRESENCE. THEN SOME OF THE OTHER STREETS THAT YOU HAVE DRIVEWAYS AND GARAGES. AND THEN SAME THING HERE, THE SPACE OUT ONTO THE THIS STREET.
THESE ARE ALL FRONT LOAD. BUT REALLY THIS BLOCK IS NEW PRODUCT FOR US THAT WE HAVEN'T ACTUALLY BUILT HERE IN CENTRAL OHIO. SO TRYING TO INCORPORATE THAT PLAN , AS WELL AS PARKING IN THE LANE , OR CAN THEY? YEAH, YOU CAN'T PARK IN THE LANE LANE IS SET UP. IT'S MEANT TO BE PRETTY NARROW.
YOU KNOW, YOU DRIVE BACK THERE YOU GET. THERE'S PLENTY OF SPACE TO PARK TWO CARS IN YOUR GARAGE AND TWO CARS IN YOUR DRIVEWAY. ONE EVALUATING THIS STAFF. WE LOOKED AT OUR PARKS FRAMEWORK PLANE AND PROVIDES DIFFERENT TIERS AND BASICALLY INTENSITY OF PARKS. AND SO YOU KNOW, FOR THESE PASSIVE PARK AREAS AND EVEN FOR OUR LIKE PLAYGROUNDS ARE PARTS FRAMEWORK PLAN DOESN'T RECOMMEND PARKING LOTS, AND IT RECOMMENDS IT FROM MORE LIKE REGIONAL TYPE USES. UM THAT WOULD DRAW A LARGER CROWD. SO HERE WE THINK BASED ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF OUR PARKS FRAMEWORK PLAN THAT, UM, THERE IS SUFFICIENT PARKING BASED ON ON STREET PARKING AVAILABILITY.
AND THEN THAT'S INTERIOR TO THE SITES OF THE OFF STREET PARKING AT THE CLUBHOUSE PROVIDES AN ALTERNATIVE MEANS AND WHAT WE BELIEVE TO BE INAPPROPRIATE MAN ON PARKING FOR THAT SPACE, OKAY? QUESTION PROBABLY FIRST OFF ABOUT THE IN LIEU OF GREEN SPACE PAYMENT IS IN JUST FOR MY EDUCATION. I JUST WONDERING IF THERE'S A LIKE A SYSTEM OF LIKE ACCOUNTABILITY, OR THERE'S UM SOME HOW WE CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT . THE POTENTIAL PROJECTS THAT THAT PAYMENT WOULD GO TOWARDS OR JUST KIND OF UNDERSTANDING OF KIND OF THE VALUE OF IF. IF NOT HERE, THEN WHERE? YEAH SO OUR CITY CODE OUTLINES THE PROCESS AND REVIEW SCHEDULE. SO UM, OUR CODE SAYS THAT THE DEVELOPER HAS PROVIDED APPRAISAL OF THE PROPERTY BEFORE IT'S IMPROVED THE NON IMPROVED MARKET VALUE OF THE LAND AND THEN THAT GOES BEFORE OUR CITY COUNCIL TO THE REVIEW THAT APPRAISAL TO DETERMINE THE IT'S AN APPROPRIATE AMOUNTS OR NOT SO THE LATEST APPRAISAL WE HAVE, UM AND I SHOULD SAY TO THAT OUR CITY COUNCIL HAS DESIGNATED THESE FUNDS TOWARDS THE PURCHASE OF ADDITIONAL METRO PARK SPACE SO HOPEFUL FOR THE EXPANSION OF THE METRO PARK NORTH OF WALNUT STREET, AND SO THE LATEST APPRAISAL WE HAVE FOR LAND NORTH OF WALNUT THAT'S IN THAT METRO PARK ZONE. UM THAT'S ABOUT $42,000. SO THAT'S TO GIVE YOU A BALLPARK. THAT'S ABOUT A YEAR OLD NOW THAT APPRAISAL. UM AND SO, IN THIS CASE, THAT DEVELOPER IS REQUESTING THAT CITY COUNCIL WAVE THAT APPRAISAL PROCESS AND THEY REQUESTED TO PAY A FEE AND LOU AMOUNTS OF $42,000 BASED ON THAT MOST RECENT APPRAISAL. AND SO AGAIN, OUR CITY COUNCIL WILL REVIEW THAT REQUEST, AND THAT AMOUNTS AT THE AT THE MEETING WHEN THEY HEAR THE FINAL PLATFORM THIS APPLICATION. WHAT WAS THE APPRAISAL DATE $42,000 PER ACRE? THE I'M SORRY IT WAS. I BELIEVE SEPTEMBER OF 2022. BUT I CAN DOUBLE CHECK THAT. STEPHEN I HAVE THIS MAY JUST BE EDUCATIONAL FOR ME. SORRY THE
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APPLICATIONS AS F P L 88 BUT THEN IN OUR AGENDA. IT TALKS ABOUT MOTION FOR FDP 87 ARE THOSE THE SAME THING? OH, NOW THAT IS A GREAT CATCH, SO THERE'S ACTUALLY TWO APPLICATIONS, AND SO THIS BOARD IS MAKING EMOTION ON THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. SO IT'S A LITTLE TECHNICAL, BUT THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLANE IS WHAT PROVIDES FOR WHERE THE LEISURE TRAIL THE SIDEWALK AND WITH THE AMENITIES ARE WITHIN THOSE RESERVE AREAS WHERE THERE'S PAVILIONS WHERE THE CLUBHOUSES BUT THE PLANTS IS A DIFFERENT APPLICATION, AND THAT'S ACTUALLY A LEGAL DOCUMENT THAT'S RECORDED , AND THAT'S WHAT ESTABLISHES THINGS LIKE MAINTENANCE AND OWNERSHIP AND THE ULTIMATE ACREAGE AMOUNTS AND SIZE OF THOSE PARKS AND OPEN SPACE AND AMENITY AREAS. SO WE'RE KIND OF LIKE YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. WE ARE KIND OF BLURRING THE LINES TO GIVE THE PARKS AND TRAILS ADVISORY BOARD THE WHOLE PICTURE FOR IN ORDER TO HAVE FULL CONTEXT TO EVALUATE THOSE THINGS . BUT TONIGHT IT WILL BE, I GUESS, TECHNICALLY PART OF THE FINANCIAL GOVERNMENT PLAN, BUT OF COURSE, THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT AFFECT THE PLAT WILL ALSO CARRY FORWARD TO OUR PLANNING COMMISSIONER CITY COUNCIL. STEVE, I HAVE A QUESTION. YOU SAID THAT VALUATION WAS IN SEPTEMBER LAST FALL, SO WE KNOW FRANKLIN COUNTY EAST REEVALUATING PROPERTIES. I WOULD EXPECT THAT THE VACANT LAND WOULD NO CHANGE A WHOLE LOT.BETWEEN LAST SEPTEMBER IN THIS NEW VALUATION THAT'S GOING ON IN FRANKLIN COUNTY. SO THE PROPERTY TAX, UM EVEN IF THAT GOES UP, THIS WILL BE PUBLICLY OWNED EXCEPT FOR THE AMENITY AREAS SO THAT WILL BE YOU KNOW, PAID FOR BY THE CITIZENS WILL BE OWNERS OF THAT PROPERTY. OTHERWISE I CAN'T SAY, UM IT WAS BEING NEGLIGIBLE PROBLEM. YEAH. 32% NEXT YEAR. COUNTRY SYSTEMS. BUT AGAIN THAT WOULD BE FOR A CITY COUNCIL TO EVALUATE AS PART OF THEIR HEARING IMPROVED, SO THAT'S RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE WE CAN ANSWER. CAN WE SEE THE CLUBHOUSE? IS THAT THE QUESTION WE HAVE I HAVE THE PROBLEM OF MINE. IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MR CHAIRMAN, WE DO HAVE A FEW PUBLIC SPEAKER SLIPS WHENEVER YOU WOULD LIKE THIS. ARE YOU ASKING ABOUT THE CLUB? YEAH. YOU WANTED TO SEE THE CLUBHOUSE? DID YOU WANT TO SEE THE FIGURED IT OUT? OKAY WASN'T REAL CLEAR ON THERE WHERE THE PARKING WASN'T ABOUT GREEN RIGHT THERE, BUT THERE IS ALL THOSE PEOPLE ON THE STREET AND I FIGURED IT OUT. THERE'S A ENLARGEMENT IN YOUR PACKAGE AND IT AND WHITE AND IT SHOWS THAT NOT ONLY THE THREE SHEETS WITH THE FOOTPRINT AND THE FRONT AND SIDE AND REAR ELEVATIONS FOR THE CLUBHOUSE BUT ALSO A LAYOUT FOR THAT WHOLE AMENITY AREA. OKAY? I DO HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION. IS THERE SO YOU DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT? IS THERE ANY PLAN FOR SOME HARDSCAPE AT THE ENTRANCES I SEE, LIKE, JUST LIKE A COUPLE WOULD EAT BY EIGHTS OR FOUR BY FOURS. ANY UM RIGHT NOW, JUST SOME FENCING AND BASICALLY YOUR SIMPLE, UM, NEW ALBANY SIGN, REALLY CAPTAIN AND. COMPATIBLE GENERALLY WITH WHAT'S IN YOUR ENGAGED PLAN, WHICH IS JUST THE HORSE FENCE. AND THEN THE. EIGHT BY EIGHT POST AND PRETTY SIMPLE SIGNAGE. I THINK THE CITY KIND OF LOOKS TO NOT HAVING A BUNCH OF LANDSCAPE THERE AS WELL. SO WE'RE JUST DEALING WITH BASKETS OF ORNAMENTAL TREES BEHIND, WHICH I THINK WAS A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE GOT DURING THE PLANNING. THE INITIAL PLANNING ON RESIGNING FROM THE CITY LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT SO NO HARDSCAPE. FENCING. SIGN TREES. WHAT COULD WE PROCEED WITH THE SPEAKERS? THE FIRST CARD I HAVE IS FOR TAMRA DAVIES. AND TOMORROW. I DON'T KNOW. DID YOU WANT OKAY? CAN YOU KEEP UP? FIRST SLIDE. GET IT. MY NAME IS TAMRA DAVIES. I LIVE AT 8200 CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD, WHICH IS BASICALLY THE BOTTOM PART OF THAT NEIGHBOR. MY CONCERN IS FIRST THE FEE IN LIEU OF OPEN
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SPACE. UM I THINK THAT NEW ALBANY WANTS TO MAINTAIN ITS RURAL CHARACTER. AND TO DO THAT YOU NEED TO KEEP THE OPEN SPACE WHERE IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE, WHICH IS PART OF THE RULES. IN THE DEVELOPMENT. SO PAYING THE BEING BLUE OF IT. I DON'T IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU KNOW, I AGREE WITH. THE OTHER PART IS THEY TALKED ABOUT $42,000 PER ACRE. WELL NEW ALBANY APPARENTLY APPRAISED THIS PROPERTY AT 73 ACRES AT CORNER OF WALNUTS. AND BEVEL HYPER ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER THERE. FOR $3000 IN SEPTEMBER OF 2022 $3 MILLION FOR THAT 73 ACRES AND, UM SEPTEMBER 2022. WELL, YOU ALREADY PURCHASED THAT PROPERTY. $4.4 MILLION IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR.THAT'S $60,000 AN ACRE. SO I DON'T KNOW WHY WE TURN AROUND. AND BASICALLY LET THAT PROPERTY BE SOLD 42. SO I THINK THAT'S DOING A DISSERVICE TO THE TAXPAYERS. SO AND WE KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW. PROPERTY IS JUST GOING UP. SO THAT THAT'S MY FIRST POINT. THE SECOND POINT I'D LIKE TO MAKE IS A ONE YEAR DOG. THE BACCI COURT AND THINGS LIKE THAT DIRECT CENTER BEING OPEN TO KIDS, UM AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY AGREE TO THAT BECAUSE I COULD SEE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD 55 ENOUGH WITH PEOPLE BE LIKE WE DON'T WANT THE KIDS ON THE BOCHY CORD AND YOUR 12 YEAR OLD AND YOUR 14 YEAR OLD . THERE MIGHT BE RULES THAT YOU HAVE TO BE WITH AN ADULT. AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE FACILITIES ARE OPEN TO CHILDREN, SINCE THERE ARE NO OTHER PLAY AREAS. IN THIS PROPERTY. YOU KNOW THAT THE RULES ARE REASONABLE AND THEY DON'T REQUIRE PARENTS WERE EVEN 14 YEAR OLDS TO BE PRESENT WHEN THEY USE THESE FACILITIES. AND THERE, THERE'S REALLY NOTHING FOR THE KIDS INSIDE OF THE. THE H O ABLE. THAT'S JUST A KITCHEN OPEN SPACE IN THE GYM. AND YES, I CAN SEE WHERE YOU MIGHT WANT TO KEEP KIDS. OF INAPPROPRIATE AGE OUT OUT OF THE GYM. THAT'S YOU KNOW, WEIGHTLIFTING EQUIPMENT AND TREADMILLS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BOTCHING FORTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT ARE OPEN THE KIDS AS YOUNG AS 12, EVEN 10. THIS IS THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THEY CAN USE THOSE WITHOUT THEIR PARENTS HAD UNDERSTANDING WITH THEM. IS THERE A FEW TO USE THE FACILITIES? OR IS IT FOR YOU TO QUESTION FOR THE DEVELOPERS THAT FREE FOR RESIDENTS? MARKET.
OKAY? OKAY. THANK YOU. AND AS FOR THE CONNECTIONS THERE, I DON'T PROPERTIES. LIKE I SAID ON THE BOTTOM PART OF THAT. UM YOU KNOW, WE'LL WILLING TO CONSIDER SOME CONNECTION ACROSS OUR PROPERTIES. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO GET INTO IT MORE TEETH UNTIL LATER. WE DON'T WANT TO DISTURB ANY OF OUR LARGE TREES ALONG THE STREET AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I DO KNOW THE THIRD PROPERTY RIGHT BEFORE TIDEWATER. HE'S VERY CONCERNED WITH THIS FENCING. BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, THE TRAIL FOR TIDEWATER BASICALLY LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING TO COME RIGHT THROUGH HIS FENCE, AND HE CERTAINLY DOESN'T WANT TO HAVE TO. MOVE HIS FENCING AND HE IS NOT INTERESTED IN HAVING TRAIL COME ACROSS HIS PROPERTY. BUT. WITH THE THOUGHT OF HAVING A TRAIL ACROSS MY PROPERTY. MY BIGGEST CONCERN WITH YOU. ALBANY IS CLEARING THE SNOW OFF OF THESE TRAILS. I MEAN, WHAT DOES NEW ALBANY DO? I MEAN, IF YOU HAVE A SIDEWALK, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO CLEAR UM WITH THESE TRAILS, ESPECIALLY LIKE WHEN I LOOK AT WRONG THE TRAIL ALONG JOHNSTOWN ROAD DOWN IN THIS AREA. I DON'T SEE SNOW REMOVAL ON THOSE TRAILS . AND I'VE ALWAYS WONDERED WHAT HAPPENED TO THE SNOW MOVIL ON TRAILS LIKE THAT. UM YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY AFTER THE FIRST GROUP OF PEOPLE WALK ON IT, AND IT REFREEZES. UM IT MAKES IT EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO WALK ON THOSE TRAILS. SO BE CLEANED. THE OTHER ISSUE I HAVE IS THAT THEY TALKED ABOUT, UM, MENTIONED THE FLOODPLAIN IN THE BACK IF I LOOK AT FIRST STREET, WHICH HAS THEIR OWN FLOOD MAPS, IT DOES SHOW A COUPLE OF FEET OF WATER ON PARTS OF THAT BACK, UM, WHICH WOULD BE THE NORTH SIDE OF THIS PLOT, ESPECIALLY ALL AROUND. WHAT IS A FEDERAL WETLANDS UP THERE? UM, IT'S NOT JUST UPON IT'S A FEDERAL WEAPONS. I THINK THAT'S . WE HAVE 01 MORE ISSUE WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN, AND I'M NOT SURE HOW THIS FITS INTO THE WATER, DRAINAGE AND STUFF LIKE THAT. BUT IT WASN'T TALKED ABOUT BEFORE I AM SEEING EVERY TAMING WELL. ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE
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PROPERTY. AND I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT YOU KNOW THE LINES OR DRAINAGE DID NOT SEEM TO CORRESPOND WITH THAT, AND I KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE FOR HOW HIGH ARE THEY GOING TO RAISE THOSE PROPERTIES? ABOUT LET'S CURRENTLY THERE. IS THAT GOING TO PUT MORE WATER INTO THAT RESERVE SPACE BETWEEN? I THINK IT'S 1 15 THE NEXT PROPERTY THERE THAT'S STILL GOING TO REMAIN LOW, AND ARE WE GOING TO GET MORE IN THEIR CLOTHES DIRECTLY? WEST ACROSS MY PROPERTY. SO I'M CONCERNED WITH THE FABRIC TEAM. THANK YOU. CAN WE SEE PICTURES OF THE ROUTINE ROLE? I'M SORRY I MISSED THAT. YES IT WAS PART OF THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO PROVIDE A GRADING PLAN. I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE A CUT SHEETS, BUT THERE IS A RETAINING WALL WERE AWARE OF PROPOSED ACROSS SOME OF THE PRIVATE PARCELS, SO IT'S NOT ON PARKS ARE OPEN SPACE, SO IT'S NOT PART OF THE PURVIEW FOR THIS BOARD HERE TONIGHT, BUT THAT WILL BE LOOKED AT AND EVALUATED AS PART OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S REVIEW PLEASURE LASER AND SHOW HER THAT RETAINING WALL IT. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT'S LOCATED ALONG THE BACK OF THESE LOTS, AND THEN SOME OF THESE LOTS AS WELL. AND WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THE RETAINING WALL? IS THAT IS THAT THE AESTHETICS OF THAT STORM WATER RUNOFF INTO YOUR PROPERTY? I'M JUST THE BIGGEST ISSUE IS JUST TRYING TO ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WE WERE GIVEN IS TRYING TO SAVE AS MANY TREES AS WE CAN IN THAT 30 FT AREA. THAT WAS WHAT LIVE DISCUSSION POINTS AND WE COULD GREATLY DO DIFFERENT THINGS. WE THOUGHT THAT RETAINING WALL THERE TO HAVE A DEFINED LOCATION PICTURE DOES A BETTER JOB OF SAVING THE TREES, WHICH IS TRYING TO GRADE AND DISTURBED THE GROUND, SO WE REALLY THOUGHT IT WAS A BENEFIT FOR EVERYONE. NEIGHBORS INCLUDE THE SAME TREES AND THANK YOU. THE SUPER LINE THAT'S GOING TO INTEL HAS GONE THROUGH AND THE CORNER OF THE CENTRAL COLLEGE AND JOB THERE IT FOLLOWS. UM THE LINE, AND THEN IT TURNS AND BUILDS UP JUG. NOW THERE'S A HOME THAT'S TWO OVER FROM THAT LINE, AND I BELIEVE IT'S 48 11. HOW WELL IS RUNNING DRY. AND I CAN ONLY THINK THAT THAT'S BECAUSE THEY DISTURB SOME UM FARM TILES IN THAT AREA, AND SHE'S SAYING SHE'S HAVING TROUBLE FLUSHING YOUR TOILETS. NOW UM, YOU KNOW, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE SAME THING. THERE'S STRANGE BY LAW HOUSE COMING ACROSS HERE. WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT GETTING TOO MUCH WATER AT THE SAME TIME. GETTING ENOUGH WATER FOR THE TREES THAT ARE IN THAT AREA. SO I JUST WANT TO POINT THAT OUT THAT THAT'S YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, IT'S A DIFFERENT PROJECT. THAT'S WHO ARE LYING. BUT I'M ASSUMING THAT'S WHAT'S UM I MEAN, IT HAS BEEN A PRETTY DRY MONTH OR SO HERE, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE ELSE IN THE AREAS HAVING ISSUES WITH THEIR WELLS. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT AREA, BUT WE I JUST GOT A CALL FROM THE PRESIDENT OF THE ROBBERY LINKS AS WELL, UM, IN MY SPARE TIME, AND I JUST GOT A CALL FROM THE GOLF COURSE THEY WANT TO TAP INTO OUR ELECTRICAL IN ORDER TO DRILL A NEW WELL BECAUSE THE NINTH AND IT'S ALSO ALL OF A SUDDEN RUNNING DRY. SO IT MIGHT BE. YEAH IT'S JUST HAPPENED TO BE. YEAH BUT NOT SAYING THAT DIDN'T CONTRIBUTE TO IT, BUT I'M CURIOUS. WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? STEPHEN ON THAT SO AS A CITY. WE DON'T HAVE ANY REGULATIONS FOR BLUE WATER STREAMS. WE HAVE REGULATIONS THAT FOR, UM, SURFACE RUN ON IT . SURFACE RUN RAINWATER RUNOFF AND RETENTION AND AS FAR AS, LIKE, UNDERGROUND AND WATER LEVELS GO, I THINK I'M NOT SURE WHICH OFFICE BUT THAT WOULD, I WOULD THINK WOULD FALL INTO THE PURVIEW OF DIFFERENT GOVERNMENTAL AGENCY. CERTAINLY AS PART OF THE ENGINEERING REQUIREMENTS, THE APPLICANTS AND ALL DEVELOPERS ARE REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN THE SAME STORM WATER STANDARDS FOR ABOVE GRADE SURFACE RUNOFF, AND, IN FACT, A LOT OF TIMES IMPROVE IT. PART OF THE CITY IS PUTTING IN A WATER LINE ALONG THIS ROAD HERE IN ORDER TO FEED INTO THE LARGER BUSINESS PARK, AND SO CERTAINLY WE'RE LOOKING WITH THE COUNTY CAUSE THEY AND SOME OF THIS RIGHT OF WAY HERE, FRANKLIN COUNTY. AND SO CERTAINLY WE'RE LOOKING INTO THE CULVERT AND MAKING SURE THAT AS PART OF OUR IMPROVEMENTS THAT THAT THIS IS MAINTAINED OR IMPROVED AS WELL, WE KNOW THAT THERE IS SOME DITCH IMPROVEMENTS THAT NEED TO BE MADE OUT HERE AS WELL. IF YOU'VE DRIVEN THROUGH THAT, UM SO CERTAINLY THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL BE LOOKED AT AND STUDIED AS PART OF THE OVERALL ENGINEERING IMPROVEMENTS FOR THIS SUBDIVISION AND THE CITY'S IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS ALONG THE JUNK STREET AREA. WE DON'T HAVE[01:00:04]
ACCESS TO THE P U. D DOCUMENT HERE, RIGHT? THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S NOT WITHIN OUR PURVIEW.THAT'S CORRECT, SO THE CAN ONLY DUAL HISTORY WITH YOU. WHEN WE PUT THE LINKS IN THAT WAS. 486 HOMESITES, I THINK. AND EVERYBODY ELSE THE SIZE OF THE LENGTHS AND WHAT'S THERE AT THE GOLF COURSE. AND ALL THIS AND A NUMBER OF WELLS? AND IF I RECALL CORRECTLY IN THE P U D THAT ACTUALLY HAD A CONDITION STATEMENT THAT SAID SOMETHING LIKE. THAT SHALL NOT DISTURB.
CLOSE IN THE AQUIFER OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT. IF THE WELLS GO DRY AND THE ADJACENT LOTS YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT, AND THAT WAS THE SAME THING WITH THE SEPTIC AND WHICH PADS YOU CAN LOOK AT THAT. I'VE ACTUALLY READ IT AND I WON'T GO INTO THAT. BUT I WAS INVOLVED WITH LEGAL ACTION. IT DID. THAT'S WHAT IT CAME OUT TO. YEAH I THINK A LOT OF THOSE. I'M NOT AWARE OF THAT. I THINK A LOT OF THOSE ACTIONS AND AGREEMENTS BETWEEN TWO BETWEEN PRIVATE PARTIES, YOU KNOW? I THINK YOU KNOW THERE'S RECOURSE THAT HAVE ADJACENT NEIGHBORS IF THERE'S SOME DISTURBANCE. YEAH CHAIR OF OUR PLANNING COMMISSION, NEIL KIRBY. HE ALWAYS RECOMMENDS THAT PROPERTY OWNERS GET THEIR WELLS TESTED BEFORE DEVELOPMENT OCCURS IN THAT WAY. THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE A BASELINE TESTING FOR AFTER DEVELOPMENT OCCURS TO SEE IF THERE'S A CHANGE. BUT IN THAT INSTANCE THAT WOULD BE BETWEEN TWO PRIVATE PARTIES THAT BE A PRIVATE PARTY MATTERED. THE CITY WOULD NOT BE INVOLVED IN WAS UP CAN DONE THAT FOR THESE TWO CONS JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S ENOUGH WATER THERE. SO AGAIN, IT'S NOT THAT F. KHAN HAS TO TEST THAT. IT'S AND THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT THOSE PRIVATE ARE THAT THOSE PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS, THE NEIGHBORS THAT THEY TEST THE WELLS THEMSELVES IN ORDER TO ESTABLISH THOSE BASELINE LEVELS. OKAY BUT FOR THESE TWO PONDS WOULD THAT BE ON THE CITY OF VENEERS THAT UP TO KIND OF MAKE SURE THERE'S ENOUGH? FOR THESE RIGHT HERE TO FEED THE POND. YES IT IS TO BE DESIGNED BY YOU MENTIONED T BY THE DEVELOPER IN THIS CASE, AND SO THE CITY WILL REVIEW THEIR DESIGN TO ENSURE THAT HIS MEETING CODE REQUIREMENTS THAT IT OPERATES SUFFICIENTLY THANK YOU. THANKS APPRECIATE. THE COMMUNES AND THE NEXT ITEM. THE NEXT CARD IS RONALD H. DAVIES. THANKS RONALD DAVIES 200 SUCH A COLLEGE ROAD. PRESENTATIONS.
JUST IMPORT IT UP. SO I THOUGHT IT WAS GOOD AS WE HAD THE CONVERSATION EARLIER THIS EVENING ABOUT STEPPING BACK FIRST. SO I START WITH THIS SLIDE HERE. FOR CONTEXT. RIGHT? SO THIS IS THE DEVELOPMENT. OBVIOUSLY SURROUNDED BY RURAL COUNTRY AREA. UM WHAT? WHAT YOU DON'T GET A SENSE OF THIS GANG. THIS IS MY FIRST TIME TO THIS PROCESS FROM START TO FINISH, STARTING WITH THE ROCKY FORK. THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN THE FIRST THING YOU TO CITY COUNCIL, SO KIND OF ALL RECORDS AND AMATEURS HERE, BUT IT SHOULD GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS. YOU HAVE TO KNOW THERE'S NOT A LOT OF AGREEMENT, AND THERE'S SUBSTANTIAL DISAGREEMENT AS WELL AS ENOUGH VOTES TO GET THIS THING TO YOUR PLATE. TODAY I WOULD SAY JUST ENOUGH, FOLKS, SO THIS IS NOT BEEN UNIVERSALLY ACCEPTED, NOR UNIVERSITY VOTED ON OR ADOPTED BY THE VARIOUS COMMITTEES AND COUNCILS WE'VE BEEN THROUGH SO FAR TODAY WITH JUST THE LAST THREE OR FOUR MONTHS. SO THIS PROJECT OBVIOUSLY SURROUNDING IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR AND SOUND LIKE MOST OF YOU ARE, UH, YOU KNOW, WITH THE CONSTANT GRADING OF PLANS FROM THE ALBANESE STRATEGIC FRIENDS 2014 26 ALL THOSE KINDS OF PLANS. THIS WAS NEVER TALKED TO BE IN THIS AREA UP UNTIL THE COVID ERA 2020. NEW ALL BEING ENGAGED TO ALBANY PLAN WAS THIS THING AROUND DENSITY WITH ELDERLY OR 55 PLUS QUALIFY THAT, I GUESS, BUT, UM, AND SINCE THEN WE'VE YOU'VE SEEN A PLETHORA OF THESE COMMUNITIES START TO COME ACROSS ACROSS THE MAP. UM SO NOW WE ARE IN THE KIND OF A CORNER OF NEW ORGAN E CUT OFF FROM EVERYTHING. UM AND HAVING A PROJECT HERE. IT'S NOT WORKING.
JUST PROBABLY ME. THERE WE GO. SO YOU KNOW A LITTLE BIT AS WE LISTENED TO EARLIER CONVERSATION. I WAS TRYING TO KEEP REMEMBERING WHAT THE PURPOSE OF THIS MEETING IS. AND IT TIMES IT SEEMS LIKE IT GETS DIALED BACK. SOMETIMES IT SEEMS TO GO FORWARD. UM BUT I BELIEVE YOU'RE BEING ASKED TO RECOMMEND SOME STUFF AROUND OPEN SPACE PARKLAND AND TRAILS AND AS A
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COMMUNITY OF ADVISERS TO THE CITY COUNCIL, YOU HAVE A BURDEN AND RESPONSIBILITY. THINK ABOUT THAT BROADLY IN BOTH LONG TERM WHAT WE'RE HEARING ABOUT IT NOW IT'S LIKE SOME THINGS ARE BEING SAID THAT SAID, WELL, THE CITY'S ALREADY CITY COUNCILS ALREADY DECIDED THIS IN LIEU OF PAYMENT OF STANDARD. UM I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S TRUE. I HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE MINUTES THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR THIS SESSION WAS 85 PAGES LONG. NOT ALL OF IT PERTAINS TO THIS TOPIC, BUT WE'LL CALL IT 50 OR 55 PAGES OF MINUTES AND DOCUMENTS TO TALK ABOUT THIS PIECE, SO MAYBE LOST AND THERE WAS A CONCRETE STAMP OF APPROVAL. BUT MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT ZONING THAT WAS APPROVED WAS SUBJECT TO A PROCESS WHICH WE ARE NOW HERE TO TALK ABOUT. PARTS OF SPACE AND TRAILS. UM YOU'VE GOT SOME WEIGHTY DECISIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS TO MAKE BECAUSE THESE ARE GOING TO BE SOME VERY LONG TERM DECISIONS. I HAD APPROACHED NEW ALBANY COMPANY WHEN I HEARD ABOUT THIS PROJECT AND SAID, YOU KNOW, WE ARE LOOKING AT A VERY AD HOC DEVELOPMENT PROCESS PLOPPING DOWN 55 PLUS COMMUNITIES 151 FOLKS. INTO AN ISLAND. WHY DON'T WE THINK ABOUT THIS BROADLY ABOUT HOW WE MIGHT INCORPORATE THE CENTRAL REGIONAL PARK STRUCTURE? YOU'VE GOT A FEDERALLY DESIGNATED WETLANDS ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER. YOU'VE GOT WHAT AREAS I BELIEVE NOW THE DOCUMENTS THAT ARE ON THIS PROJECT. THERE ARE 10 WETLANDS THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED AND THAT THE ENGINEER REPORT IS STILL BEING REVIEWED. SO IT'S NOT YET APPROVED, BUT THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING IN THE READING, SO THERE'S A LOT OF WATER. WHY DO I HAVE THIS PHOTO? WHEN WE SEE PROJECT DESIGNS AND PROJECTIONS , RIGHT WE THINK ABOUT IT'S ALL COOL CLEAN, YOU KNOW, HAPPY PARENTS AND KIDS. UM, THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE, UM. CON PROJECT BY SIX OR FIVE IN JULY. UM THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT ON THE FRONT DOOR. IF YOU DRIVE BY THAT, MAYBE IT'S BEEN CLEANED UP NOW, AT THE TIME, THERE WAS A PLASTIC SWAN OR SOMETHING UPSIDE DOWN. FLOATING AROUND. UM DIDN'T HAVE A FOUNTAIN. DIDN'T YOU KNOW? SO MAYBE THAT WOULD HELP.BUT THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY WHAT I WOULD THINK THE WALL BUT HE COUNTRY CLUB WOULD ALLOW. BUT YET WE'RE POTENTIALLY ALLOWING THESE KINDS OF DEVELOPMENTS HAPPEN AGAIN, NOT SAYING THERE'S ANYTHING TOXIC IN HERE, BUT YOU ARE LOOKING AT THAT YOURSELF LOOKED AT ATTRACTIVE, BUT IN THAT IS ON THE FRONT DOOR, 605. SO THAT WILL BE ON THE GOOD NEWS IS ON THIS PROJECT. THIS IS A LETTER WOODLANDS BETWEEN CENTRAL COLLEGE JUG AND IN RESERVE AREA A. I BELIEVE IT IS SO WE DEFEATED THAT VISUAL, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE PART OF THE COMMUNITY'S AGO. WE THINK ABOUT IT. THANK YOU, UH, I JUST WANT TO RECOMMEND NO VOTES ON THESE THINGS THAT I HAVEN'T BACK IN THEIR PARENTS. I PROBABLY WON'T GO THROUGH THEM. BUT THOSE MEETINGS WERE NOT UNANIMOUS.
THEY WERE OFTEN CLOSE, LIKE ONE PERSON MADE THE DIFFERENCE TO GET THIS PIECE TO WHERE YOU ARE TODAY. UM IT IS AN ISLAND. THEY'RE ASKING YOU TO RECOMMEND A WAIVER. HMM AND WE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT ALREADY NOW, AND I'M GOING TO LITTLE MORE DETAIL ABOUT, UM, EQUIPMENT AND PARKLAND. UM I BELIEVE THE NEAREST PARK NAME IS 1.7. MILES AWAY. I DROVE THAT TODAY. IT'S ON THE CORNER OF DOUBLE HAMMER AND YOU ALBANY ROAD EAST, WHICH IS THE LINKS THE FAR SIDE OF THE KNIGHTS. PERHAPS, BUT SO 1.7 MILES AWAY, NOT CONNECTED BY ANY CONVENIENT OVER THAN A ROAD RIGHT NOW. IT'S A TWO LANE, HIGH SPEED TRAFFIC INDUCT TRUCKS. UM I WOULD PERSONALLY NOT TO LIKE CHILDREN ON THE ROAD, BUT I DO RUN THAT EVERY DAY, SO I'M VERY COGNIZANT OF WHAT CENTRAL COLLEGE HAS, UH AND IT IS BECOMING MORE DANGEROUS FOR ME AROUND 6, 30 OR SEVEN. NOW WITH A DOG THAT UM NOT THE ROAD TO BE ON. SO I'M HAPPY TO SEE THAT THE TRAIL WERE BEING MOVED OFF CENTRAL COLLEGE INSIDE TO THE DEVELOPMENT. I THINK THAT'S A WIN THE TREES AND THAT ROAD OR ARE SUBSTANTIAL, SO I THINK THAT'S A WIN. TAKEN THANKS. SO IT IS AN ISLAND. UM, MAY NOT BE IN YOUR PURVIEW, BUT I THINK YOU SHOULD THINK ABOUT THE RECOMMENDATION OF WHAT YOU'RE PASSING FORWARD IN THE CITY COUNCIL. UM YOU'RE SURROUNDED BY PLAYING TOWNSHIP HERE, RIGHT? SO THE ONLY CONNECTION TO NEW ALBANY? IT'S JUST ROAD RIGHT HERE. UM WHICH I DON'T KNOW WHOSE JURISDICTION THAT ACTUALLY IS. THERE MIGHT BE THE CITY OF THE COUNTY OF FRANKLIN. ACTUALLY COUNTY BUT OBVIOUSLY THE SOUTH SIDE OF CENTRAL COLLEGES NEW ALBANY, I AM SITTING ON THE WEST SIDE OF THIS PROJECT. WE HAVE NEIGHBORS HERE. FOR MY LEAST I KNOW THE NORTH, WHICH CAN CAN TALK AS WELL. AND I KNOW HE HAS TO NEIGHBORS IN ITSELF, BUT SO YOU'VE GOT THREE INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNERS THE QUESTION AROUND. COULD YOU EXTEND THE TRAIL? UM HONESTLY, WE'VE NEVER BEEN ASKED. SO MY WIFE AND I HAVE NEVER KIND OF SAT DOWN AND SAID WELL, WOULD WOULD WE AGREE OR NOT AGREE WITH THE TRAIL ALONG THE ROAD? I WOULD POINT OUT THAT THIS EXTENSION ROAD THAT'S RIGHT HERE. I DON'T HAVE A GREAT PICTURE OF IT ON HIS
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DECK DOWN WOULD HAVE TO GO BETWEEN MY BARN IN MY HOUSE. I THINK MAYBE IT'S LIKE THE HOUSE IN FRONT OF ME AND MY BOOK MY BARN, BUT IT WOULD CUT THE PROPERTY SO NOT LIKELY. THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN YOUR TIME. THAT'S SEVEN. BY THAT THE WHOLE THING. SO UM, SO WE'RE GONNA PUT 55 PLUS COMMUNITY IN AN AREA THAT YOU CAN'T WALK OR BIKE? BROTHER STATE OR WHATEVER, FROM AND TO SOMETHING ELSE, SO OBVIOUSLY WE TALKED ABOUT THE LINKS. THERE IS REALLY NO PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT. I'M SORRY. THE TIDEWATER AREA THERE'S NO PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT. UM I DON'T KNOW WHY, UH, OBVIOUSLY THE ELECTION OF TREES LONG CENTRAL COLLEGE, EITHER IN TIDEWATER, WHICH WAS AN EARLY PET PEEVE OF MINE. IT'S A IT'S A DARK, DRY HOLE WHEN YOU IN THERE IN THE SUMMER TIME. SURE. CAN WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE? IT TURNS COMMUNITY IN THE THIS IS THE.YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT ON 605. THAT'S THE TWO PONDS. I JUST SHOWING. YOU BRING ATTENTION TO THEIR CONNECTED. THERE'S A NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT BEHIND HIM WITH THE SIDEWALK THAT GOES THROUGH YOU HAVE THIS TRAILER GOES THROUGH DOWN TO THE SCHOOLS SOMEDAY. MAYBE THIS. THIS HAPPENS JUST IN THAT, SO WE GET IT RIGHT. THERE'S A CONNECTION TO THE COMMUNITY. 55 PLUS AND OBVIOUSLY I'VE GOT A FEW FIVE PLUS COMMUNITY UP HERE. UM ARSON GOING TO BE AN ISLAND AND I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE EMPHASIZED THAT WHEN WE GO THROUGH THIS RECOMMENDATION PROCESS THAT YOU HAVE FOR CONDITIONS OF HOW DID DIRECTED NOT TO BE AN ISLAND. SO, UH, THANK YOU. I JUST BROUGHT THIS SUBJECT. I THOUGHT IT WAS FROM THE APPLICANT SIDE WAS GREAT.
YOU KNOW, IN THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING, THEY PRODUCED THIS SLIDE. I THOUGHT WELL, GREAT.
LET ME JUST HAMMER HOMELESS POINT. SO IN THE SLIDE THAT THE CITY CITY COUNCIL SAW FROM THE APPLICANT, THERE'S NOT A SINGLE PART WITH EQUIPMENT ON IT IN THIS PHOTO. UM YES. YOU SEE A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT OTHER THINGS AROUND, BUT SO AGAIN, JUST POUNDING THAT POINT HOME. WE DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THERE'S NO PARK EQUIPMENT. UH, CERTAINLY. SOME PEOPLE MIGHT HAVE GRANDKIDS . WE KNOW THERE'S 15 HUNKS, ACTUALLY WITH KIDS, UH, SO SEEMS LIKE A SMALL THING TO ASK. I GET NO BENEFIT FROM IT. IT JUST SEEMS LIKE WE MIGHT WANT SOMETHING THERE WITH THE KIDS AGAIN. I DON'T THINK THE COUNTRY CLUB OF NEW ORLEANS THAT BUT YET I'M JUST GONNA KEEP DRAWING THAT DISTINCTION LIKE IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A DIFFERENT SET OF RULES OUT TO THE RURAL. HINTERLANDS SO TO SPEAK, SO I'D LIKE TO SEE THE COMEDIES. MY WIFE WAS POINTING AT THIS. SO I USED THIS SLIDE IN JULY WITH THE CITY COUNCIL. UM I WILL TELL YOU. THIS IS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT HAS BEEN DEVILED US A BIT AROUND TRYING TO GET TO THE ANSWER. SO YOU KNOW IF YOU WOULD ALLOW ME TO USE ZILLA WAS AN ACTIVE INCREASE SOURCE HERE. I WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT WHAT WAS SOLD AND TRY TO GET SOME BIG DATE. SO I THOUGHT I THOUGHT I PICKED IT OUT HERE LIKE HEY, THIS WAS 42,000 ACRE. JUST SO HAPPENS IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO THE PARK IT WAS BOUGHT IN 2020. WHEN I PRODUCED THIS, THE CITY COUNCIL. I WAS TOLD NO, THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY USED. AND SO I DIDN'T FIND OUT TILL YESTERDAY. I THINK THE NEIGHBORS TODAY WHAT THEY DID YOU SO BEFORE I GO TO THAT THAT ANSWER IF YOU LOOK AT THE PRICES PER ACRE DOWN HERE, SOLDIER OF ONE OR TWO PERIOD 362,000 HOUSE HERE, DIVIDED BY 0.53 DO YOUR OWN MATH 400,000 ACRES FOR THE FIVE ACRES UP HERE. THE PIECE THAT WE ARE NOW BEING TOLD, WAS BEING USED BY THE APPRAISAL IS THIS PIECE RIGHT? HERE IS MY UNDERSTANDING. AND I ALSO KNOW THAT THE STAFF. ARE YOU CORRECT ME, BUT THAT'S THE PIECE. THEY SAID THERE WAS AN APPRAISAL AT 42 K AN ACRE SEPTEMBER OF 2022 TAX RECORDS THAT MY WIFE PULLED DOWN BECAUSE EVERYBODY LIKE LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE, WE'RE APPEALING. OUR TAXES SHOWED THE CITY BOUGHT THIS FOR FOUR PLUS MILLION DOLLARS. THAT MAKES NO SENSE TO US IF THE CITY BOUGHT THIS FOR SOMETHING MILLION A CITIZEN. QUESTION OF LIKE, WHY WOULD YOU PAY $4 MILLION FOR A PIECE THAT'S APPRAISED AT 300 SOMETHING MILLION SO WHY WOULD YOU PAY, BUT THE REALITY IS THE PURCHASE PRICE TO PROCEED PRETTY EASILY. THAT IS SOON IT'S A MARK ARM'S LENGTH MARKET TRANSACTION . WE KNOW WE COULD WE COULD REACT LINE. IN FACT, THAT $42,000. IT'S NOT THE RIGHT PRICE TO DO IN LIEU OF PAYMENTS. I'M OPPOSED TO ONE OF THOSE PAYMENTS. I THINK WE SHOULD FOLLOW BACK ON THE REQUIREMENT THAT THE LAND IS ON SITE. THE REALITY IS THE REASON THE LAST NINE ON SITE MAYBE TWO THINGS. UM ONE IS THE REQUIREMENTS WERE NOT DESIGNED WITH THE VIEW THAT WE HAD THIS KIND OF DENSITY, AND THIS DENSITY IS ONLY ALLOWED BECAUSE WE HAVE THIS MAGIC THING OF 55 PLUS COMMUNITY KICKING IT . OTHERWISE THE LAND THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT WOULD CONTINUE TO BE.
UH RURAL RESIDENTIAL ESTATES, WHICH IS BASED ON THE 2016 PLAN IS WHAT IT WAS GOING TO BE.
EXPLAIN THIS. SO THEY'RE ASKING YOU AND I BELIEVE THEY'RE ASKING YOU FREE, HUGE RECOMMENDATION
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HERE, AND THAT IS TO NOT HAVE THIS PARKING SPACE ON SITE THAT IT'S WEAVING THAT REQUIREMENT.UM YEAH, YOU CAN TRADE LANDS, BUT THIS PIECE DIRECTLY IMPACTS , YOU KNOW, SO NOT HAVING A SPACE ON SITE MOVES LAND MILES AWAY FROM THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IMPACTED AND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE BUYING THE HOMES IN AREAS TO LIVE IN. UH UM I THINK IT'S CLEAR YOU, YOU KNOW YOU LOOK AT ZILLOW TODAY OR WE LOOK AT .COM. YOU KNOW AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND ASKING AND SELLING ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. BUT THE MAN ASKING PRICES RIGHT NOW ARE QUITE HIGH. YOU COULDN'T BUY THREE OR FOUR ACRES TODAY FOR $142,000, WHICH IS WHAT THE APPLICANT IS SUGGESTING THEY'RE GOING TO PAY BASED ON MATH. UM YOU HAVE TO GO MUCH HIGHER THAN THAT. MAYBE DON'T AGAIN. I DON'T GET ANY BENEFIT OUT OF THAT. BUT I THINK THIS COMMITTEE ADVISORY BOARD. WHOSE IT TO THE CITY, THE TAXPAYERS THAT NO, WE'RE NOT GONNA DO A DISCOUNTED RATES WHEN WE BUY AND BOOK OR WHOLESALE.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO SELL IT AT THAT PRICE. WE'RE GOING TO START AT RETAIL AND GET AN ASSESSMENT OR EVALUATION. THAT MAKES SENSE FOR OUR TAXPAYERS. TREES LAST NIGHT CHART. I SPENT SOME TIME TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO SIMPLIFY THIS. SO YOU KNOW, IF YOU THINK THIS IS SIMPLE, I'LL SEE YOU SHOW YOU THE NEXT SLIDE, BUT, UH, WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME TRYING TO PROTECT THESE TREES.
THERE'S SOME ANCIENT TREES IN THIS AREA. UM, THAT ARE ON THE CHOPPING BLOCK. SO 124 YEARS OLD 116 YEARS OLD. THIS COMES FROM THE ARBITRARY PORTS IN THE PUT ON IT IN THIS DOCUMENT COMES FROM THE AFRICANS. SUBMISSION UM, THE GREEN ONE LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE SAVED. UM, SO I JUST PUT A FEW DOWN. YOU HAVE TO THAT AGAIN DON'T AFFECT ME THAT MY PROPERTY LINE IS RIGHT HERE DOWN HERE SO, BUT WE HAVE TO LET OUR 160 YEAR OLD TREES, THE OLDEST TREE THAT IS RIGHT NOW REPORT ACCORDED ON THE SITE IS ACTUALLY ON THE FAR EASTERN BORDER. IT COULD BE CLOSE TO 200 YEARS. UM I THINK IT'S BEEN SAVED AND DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO DIVE INTO ALL THE WAYS YOU CAN TELL. THESE ARE VERY SMALL NUMBERS TAKES QUITE A BIT OF TIME. THERE'S OVER 400 TREES THAT HAVE BEEN MARCH G LOCATED TIGHT AND MEASURED SO, UH, I'M STILL WORKING THROUGH THAT THAT DATA, BUT, UM, THE REASON WE'VE HAD ALL THIS DISCUSSION AROUND IS THIS IS A BIG ACREAGE. IF YOU LOOK AT OUR PROPERTY, WE HAVE 20 TO 30 FT. OF FULL TREES ON THE FULL LEGENDS PROPERTY, AND THIS IS ESSENTIALLY ALL OF FOREST. I CAN GO BACK TO ANOTHER SLIDE TO KIND OF SHOW IT SO THERE IS A 11 ACRES OF FOREST DESTRUCTION WRITING HERE GOING ON, WHICH IS WHY THE APPLICANT AND OUR CITY COUNCIL PLANNING COMMISSION SPENDING A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT TREES AND HAVE NOW CARVED OUT FOUR HOME MOVE FROM HERE TO OVER. UP HERE. I GUESS THAT'S IT WAS THERE. AS FOR THE NORTH, BUT AGAIN, HE HAS SOME VERY OLD TREES IN THE AREA THAT I THINK THAT WE'RE TRYING TO SAVE. NEXT, PLEASE. I KNOW IT'S A NICE CHAR , UM, BLOW IT UP AND I WON'T NEED TO, UM I JUST TRIED TO DOCUMENT THAT I'VE GONE THROUGH ALMOST EVERY SINGLE TREE FROM 75 TO 3 97 OVER HERE TRYING TO FIND THE ONES THAT WE WERE ON THE WEST. BASICALLY UM THERE'S THERE ARE A BUNCH OF MISSING DATA I DID USE THE ARBORIST REPORT IN THE APPLICANTS. APPLICATION TREE TIED TREE SIZE. UM AND THEN IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE UH, A BUNCH OF WEBSITES TRYING TO FIND OUT LIKE HOW TH TREES, UM SO THAT SOME OF THE CHANGES WE HAVE ASKED FOR AND WE HAVE GOT, I GUESS, BUT IN IN THE BEGINNING, WE ASKED FOR ALL THE OPEN SPACE TO BE ON SITE, UM, NOT TO TAKE LOU PAYMENT, CERTAIN MOVEMENTS.
UM IN THE VERY FIRST MEETINGS, I STARTED ASKING, LET'S THINK ABOUT EXPANDING WOODED AREA ON THE WEST SIDE. I GET IT BENEFITS ME, BUT THIS IS TAKEN FROM A KATANA PARK. I WAS WALKING THROUGH, UH, JUNE AND LIKE, WHY DON'T WE CONNECT THE SOUTH TO THE NORTH? AND I KNOW THIS COMMITTEE HAS HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS TODAY. PUT IT WITHIN TRAIL. KIND OF LIKE THE DOG PART THROUGH THE AREA. THE TREES ARE QUITE GORGEOUS. UM, THE LEAVES ARE FALLING RIGHT NOW. WE WOULD ACTUALLY NEED MORE SPACE. UM AND I GET IT THAT RUNS INTO THE POTENTIAL ECONOMICS OF DEVELOPMENT. UM BUT THE OTHER PIECE I WOULD ASK IS START THINKING ABOUT RECOMMEND, YOU KNOW, PROTECTION FOR TREES, 50 YEARS AND OLDER. YOU KNOW, AS A 40 YEAR OLD, YOU GET PROTECTED STATUS IN THE UNITED STATES. UM MAYBE WE COULD DO SOMETHING FOR ALL OF THE TREES IN THE AREA, BECAUSE, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF SYSTEM ENTRIES, AND ONCE ONCE
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THEY'RE GONE, THEY'RE GONE. SO AGAIN, I WOULD ASK FOR NO WAIVER OF THE REQUIREMENT AROUND. PART OF PLAYING AND PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT. AND THAT'S. I'LL BE WITH THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT THOSE FOUR HOMES THAT WERE MOVED OFF TO THE SIDE TO THE WESTERN BOUNDARY WOULD BE ELIMINATED, SO TO EXPAND THE OPEN SPACE? MAYBE I MISUNDERSTOOD. YEAH. LIKE MY PIECES. THE APPLICANT CAME IN WITH 151 HOMES. WE'RE STILL IN 100 51 HOMES WERE SOME OF THE HOT, HIGHEST SINGLE FAMILY DENSITY IN NEW ALBANY. WHEN I FIRST STARTED DISCUSSING THIS WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WAS A 22 HOME, QUARTER MILE DRAG STRIP. AND SO CITY COUNCIL PLANNING COMMISSION. OTHERS STARTED SAYING, YEAH, WE NEED TO BREAK THIS UP. YOU DON'T GET THE WE CAN SHOW YOU AGAIN SLIDES WHILE ON ON THE MEETING, MINUTES AND STUFF THE MOUNT OF WILDLIFE THAT MIGRATES THROUGH HERE. IS MAYBE SOME OF THE BEST IN NEW ALBANY HAS TO OFFER. UM AND WHEN YOU PUT UP A WALL OF FOAMS, RIGHT, THAT'S GONNA STOP HIM.
NOW, THIS JUST SOLVE THE PROBLEM, BUT IT WAS AN IDEA AROUND BREAKING UP THIS CONTINUOUS STRUCTURE AS YOU HEARD FROM EARLIER THIS EVENING . IT'S A WALL, RIGHT? IT'S THE BACK OF THE HOUSE WITH THE FENCE WITH THE BACK OF THE HOUSE WITH THE FENCE. IT'S A SOLID WALL OF CONSTRUCTION. UM ALL ALONG THAT WAY, AND IT'S THE LONGEST THAT I COULD FIND IN NEW ALBANY AND NO ONE HAD IN SIX MONTHS NOW. I WAS CONTESTED. MY POINT OF THAT IS ALONG THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN LIKE CONSTRUCTION. SO THE CITY COUNCIL DIRECTED THE APPLICATION TO CHANGE INTO MOVE FORWARD THE HOMES OFF HERE AND TO FIND ANOTHER PLACE FOR THEM. I DON'T BELIEVE THE CITY COUNCIL ISN'T YET WAITED ALMOST FOUR HOMES BEING THERE, BUT THAT'S I DON'T I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER. THAT HELPS YEAH, I WOULD SAY AGAIN. RIGHT THIS DENSITY DID NOT EXIST IN HIS ABILITY UNTIL THE ENGAGED IN ALBANY PLAYING IN 2020. MAYBE THAT WAS WELL DONE. MAYBE IT WAS WELL REPRESENTED BY PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY NORTH OF 1 61. MAYBE IT WASN'T BUT AND AGAIN. IT DOESN'T SEEM THAT ENGAGED.
PLAN THAT YOU'RE GONNA GET THIS DROPPED IN YOUR DOORSTEP RIGHT? AND SO IT'S KIND OF HIGH FLOWERING CONNECTED COMMUNITIES . GREAT THIS IS A GREAT PICTURE , TOO, RIGHT? SO THAT'S THE EXTENSION. THANKFULLY THE PLAN HAS BEEN MODIFIED THAT THIS WILL BE THIS WILL REMAIN GREEN SPACE . I'M HOPING THE TREES ARE LEFT THERE UNTIL SUCH TIME. AS A ROAD DOES GO THROUGH AND THEN PERHAPS THE SAME THING HERE BECAUSE, AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S A HOUSE THERE. UM AND THEN, OBVIOUSLY THAT THAT IS REAL, WHICH WOULD CONNECT HIM MCCLELLAN AND TIDEWATER IF IT STAYED ON COURSE SO I DON'T OBVIOUSLY AND I APPRECIATE THIS COMMITTEE THE AUTHORITY TO OVERRULE OR. TO A LOT OF THINGS, THE CITY COUNCIL BOOK MAYBE WE CAN RECOMMEND THAT, UM I'LL JUST ADD IN THE REASON THESE LAST LOOKED LONG TO, UH, THE CONTEXT. HAVING SPENT SOMETHING. AS OF THIS, THERE'S A LOT OF UNKNOWNS UP HERE. AND YOU KNOW, THE APPLICANT IS SPENDING SOME MONEY FOR ENGINEERING, LEARNING MORE AND GOING THROUGH A PROCESS. UH, THERE'S STILL UNKNOWN AT LEAST.
WHEN WE LAST HAD A MEETING LIKE THIS WITH THE CITY COUNCIL, THEY WERE STILL WORKING ON THAT, UM, ENGINEERING DRAINAGE, BECAUSE THAT IS A FEDERALLY PROTECTED THERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
THANKS. PRESENTATION. NEXT WEEK , PLEASE RICHARD OTTEN. MY NAME IS RICHARD DAWKINS, 83 83 CLOSE ROAD AND A LOT OF WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY. MR REALLY IS JUST SAID, BUT I LIVE HERE. THAT'S MY HOUSE. AND THEN THIS IS OUR NEIGHBORS TO CHOSEN. SO WHAT I WANTED TO DO WITH THE FIRST COMMENT ON THE TREES. SO ONE THING ABOUT TREES TO SAY, CONTINUE TO GROW FASTER, THE BIGGER THEY GET, UNLIKE ANIMALS, WHICH SLOW DOWN AS THEY GET OLDER TREES ACTUALLY GROW FASTER. SO WE CUT DOWN 100 YEAR OLD TREE. IT'LL TAKE 100 YEARS TO GET A NEW TREE THAT'S GROWING AS FAST AS THE ONE THAT'S THERE. YEAH THEY DON'T MENTION IS THE TREMENDOUS EFFECT THE ROOT STRUCTURES HAVE IN THE SOIL AND DRAINAGE AND, UM STRUCTURE OF THE SOIL UNDER THE GROUND IF YOU GOT THE TREES OFF, SUDDENLY WE'RE JUST CLAY WITH UNKNOWN WATER FLOW UNDERNEATH THE SLABS , SO TREES ARE SUPER IMPORTANT AND WHOLEHEARTEDLY THIS. THERE'S A NUMBER OF THEM. THERE'S A TREE LINE CURRENTLY THAT GOES, YOU CAN SEE THIS LINE HERE KIND OF GOES ACROSS ALL THE WAY IN, AND
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THAT'S THE TREES HE'S TALKING ABOUT REMOVING UM SOME OF THOSE ARE SUBSTANTIAL AS WELL. SO WHAT I WANTED TO START AND THEN TO COMMENT ON SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS. PROPERTY EVALUATION. WE GOT OUR FRANKLIN COUNTY TAX REASSESSMENT. OUR PROPERTY HERE DOUBLED IN VALUE IN ONE YEAR. SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT A 2022 VALUATION DOUBLE IT FOR 2023 IF YOU'RE IN THIS AREA BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE ARE. THE OTHER THING IS UP HERE, SORT OF JUST OFF THE MAN. IS MICROSOFT DATA CENTER IN THE NEW ALBANY COMPANY SOLD THAT TO MICROSOFT TO $290,000 AN ACRE AND SO THAT'S ALSO YOU KNOW, 100 YARDS 200 YARDS FROM FROM THIS PARTICULAR SET OF LAN. THE 42,008 ACRES IS A JOKE. AND IT'S HER. I WAS KIND OF SHOCKED IN THE CITY COUNCIL. IT'S LIKE YEAH, OKAY, WHATEVER.AND I THINK PEOPLE IT'S NOT FINAL YET, WHICH IS WHY THEY DIDN'T WORRY ABOUT THE EXACT NUMBER YET. ALL RIGHT. UM SO. NEXT TO OUR LAND IN THIS LOT RIGHT HERE. THIS IS AN OLDER SATELLITE PICTURES. THIS IS ALL TREES. NOW THIS IS FEDERALLY PROTECTED CONSERVATION LAND, AND THEN ON THIS SIDE OF OUR HOUSE IS FEDERALLY PROTECTED CONSERVATION LAND, AND THERE'S ABOUT 35 TO 40 ACRES OF CONSERVATION LAND. IT'S A MIX OF WETLAND PRAIRIE AND WHAT WOODLANDS AND THEN THIS IS HERE . IT'S A 17 ACRE POND. THAT'S ALSO FEDERALLY PROTECTED.
WETLANDS MITIGATED WETLAND. IT'S ABOUT 25 YEARS OLD. IT IS FULL OF MIGRATORY BIRDS AT THE MOMENT. THIS PASSAGEWAY HERE IF YOU HAD A WIRE IS ACTUALLY A CONTINUOUS WILDLIFE CORRIDOR ALONG THE CREEK ALL THE WAY DOWN TO BLACKWOOD CREEK. SO THIS IS A CONNECTION. CONNECTIVE ITTY ROUTE FROM THIS WETLAND TO BLACK CREEK THAT GOES THROUGH HERE. IF YOU WANTED TO PUT A TRAIL THAT WOULD BE A GREAT PLACE TO PUT A TRAIL BEHIND TIDE WATERS ALL THE WAY DOWN TO CENTRAL COLLEGE FROM BLACK LAKE CREEK UP THROUGH ALL THE AND THIS MAGNIFICENT 200 YEAR OLD TREES IN HERE, THAT'S PRETTY COOL. AND SO JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME CONTEXT AROUND THE SURROUNDING AREAS. WE HAVE ANOTHER LOVE PLOT TO THE NORTH OF US THAT WERE TALKING WITH THE NEIGHBORS ABOUT SOME CONSERVATION TYPE OF APPROACHES TO MANAGING THAT, AS WELL AND MAKING THIS ALL CONNECTED.
CONSERVATION LAND PARK AREA. IT'S SORT OF NESTLED IN AMONGST THE DATA CENTERS AND OTHER DEVELOPMENT THAT'S BEEN HAPPENING LATELY. THAT'S ON MY NOTES. SO HE DID MENTION THE VOTING HISTORY. SO THIS BARELY PASSED THE REFUGEE WORKER CORD BARELY PASSED THE POINT PLANNING COMMISSION. AFTER A LOT OF DEBATE OF TESTING CITY COUNCIL UNANIMOUSLY. BUT IT TOOK A LOT OF DISCUSSION AND DEBATE, SO THIS HAS BEEN CONTROVERSIAL, AND, UH, BARELY PASSING ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO DON'T I FEEL LIKE IF IT'S BARELY PASSES HERE, THAT THERE'S A NEW, DIFFERENT ANYTHING ELSE WE'VE SEEN SO FAR. LET'S SEE. AND THE OTHER THING I JUST ONE FINAL NAIL. THEY STARTED PUTTING IN A CURTAIN DRAIN FOR THIS LOT ALREADY. AND THEY STARTED IT BEFORE THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS THAT APPROVED THINGS AND IT TAKES TWO DRAINAGE OFF OF DRUG STREET HERE AND ROUTES AROUND. THE LOT AND IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THAT, THEY DUG UP A BUNCH OF TIRE LINES AND STUFF AND THEN THE CONTRACTOR THROUGH THE OLD TILE LINES IN THE TREE LINE HERE INSTEAD OF CALLING HIM AWAY. SO THERE'S A BUNCH OF TRASH THAT'S JUST SHUT UP MONTH OR SO IN OUR TREE LINE. BE ABOUT. IF YOU GUYS KNOW THE CONTRACTOR THAT DID ALL THAT DRAINAGE WORK. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. I JUST THINK IF WE LOOK AT THE LARGER PICTURE OF THIS, PROBABLY NOT. THIS IS A SOLID WALL. OF HOUSES. THERE'S NO WAY FOR ANYTHING TO GO THROUGH HERE. OTHER THAN WALKING ON THE STREET. THERE'S NO NO WILDLIFE CAN GO THROUGH HERE. THAT WOULD BE GREAT INTO THE CORRIDOR THAT WENT THAT WAY FOR WALKING. AND I LIKE THE IDEA OF MAKING OPENING THAT UP. IT'S KIND OF KIND OF FUNNY. WHY WOULD I WANT PEOPLE WALKING BEHIND MY HOUSE? BUT WE'VE SPENT OVER 20 YEARS BUILDING THIS CONSERVATION, LAND AND 25 YEARS AGO, MY FATHER IN LAW BUILT THIS WETLAND, AND WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO PRESERVE IT AND SHARE IT AND MAKE IT A PLACE THAT PEOPLE CAN REALLY APPRECIATE IT BUT ALSO BRING BACK POLLINATORS. BRING BACK, UM PREDATOR BIRDS LIKE THE BALD EAGLES REGIME AND THE WETLAND THIS YEAR. AFTER THEY GOT DISPLACED BY INTEL. THE HAWKS AND OWLS AND COYOTES AND FOX AND MANY OF THE OTHER WILDLIFE WE'VE SEEN. ALRIGHT IN OUR YARD WILD
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TURKEYS. SO THAT'S WHY WE ARE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE NOSE SPRAY HERE BECAUSE THIS IS ALL CONSERVATION, AND WE DON'T WANT ANYTHING THAT KILLS THE POLLINATORS OR KILLS THE CONSERVATION LAND THAT WE'VE BEEN ESTABLISHING, AND THAT'S IT. PLUS, IT'S REALLY PRETTY AND THE PRAIRIE PLANTS ARE SO MUCH BETTER FOR THE PLANET AND LAUNCH. I THINK IT'LL BE GREAT.SO OKAY. THANKS. THANK YOU. PRESENTER. CATHERINE SABISTON. HI I'M KATHERINE SABISTON 83 83 CLOSE ROAD. SO. THAT'S ALSO MY HOUSE BECAUSE THAT WAS MY HUSBAND, WHO, JUST TALKING SO I WANTED TO START WITH AN APPRECIATION. I AM REALLY, REALLY EXCITED THAT YOU'RE EMBRACING THE NATURAL PLANTS. I . YOU KNOW, AS RICK SAID, THIS IS THIS IS ALL FEDERALLY PROTECTED CONSERVATION WETLAND ALONG HERE, SO THE IDEA OF HAVING NATURAL PLANTS. NATIVE PLANTS ALL ALONG HERE IS JUST WONDERFUL, AND I'M I'M THRILLED THAT THAT'S HAPPENING. SO. I THINK I HAVE SIMILAR POINTS TO WHAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE SAID. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE FULL PARKLAND. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THERE'S A REQUIREMENT FOR PARKLAND, AND THEN IT'S CONSTANTLY ALLOWED TO BE BOUGHT. ELSEWHERE AND NOT PUT ON THE ACTUAL SPOT, SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO SUPPORT PUTTING THE FULL PARKLAND ON THIS SITE. UM AND. I WAS GOING TO ALSO MENTIONED 42,000 ACRE IS RIDICULOUSLY LOW, SO OTHER PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY SAID THAT I HAD ONE QUESTION. SO IN THE ORIGINAL PLAN, THIS WAS A 250. UM FOOT DISTANCE BETWEEN THAT ROAD AND THIS PROPERTY LINE. WHAT IS IT NOW? IN THIS PLACE.
1 35. SO 1 35 HERE NOW. AND IT WAS 2 20. THANK YOU. UM. TAMARA MENTIONED THAT THAT ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS WAS ADAMANTLY OPPOSED TO PUTTING ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS DOWN HERE WAS ADAMANTLY OPPOSED TO PUTTING A TRAIL THROUGH SO MUCH AS I LIKE THE IDEA OF CONNECTING UP BETRAYALS TO OTHER PARTS OF NEW ALBANY. THAT'S GONNA BE HARD SELL FOR HIM. WELLS WERE MENTIONED. WE ARE WE'VE BEEN CONCERNED ABOUT OUR WELL ALL ALONG, CHRIS, WE'RE GETTING DEVELOPED. WE'VE GOT A MICROSOFT DATA CENTER GOING IN UP HERE AND THEN WE'VE GOT THIS GOING IN ON OURSELVES SIDE. SO, YES, WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT OUR WELLS. YES, WE'RE GONNA GET OUR WILLS TESTED. BUT IT SEEMS RIDICULOUS TO ME AS A CITIZEN THAT I HAVE TO HOLD THE DEVELOPERS ACCOUNTABLE. FOR NOT MESSING UP MY WATER. SO I WOULD LOVE IT IF THERE WAS SOMETHING IN THE CITY. YOU KNOW SOME AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY DEVELOPERS THAT BUT THAT HELPS SUPPORT. THE NEIGHBORS NEXT TO THESE DEVELOPMENTS GOING IN. AND I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU. WHAT'S THE GOVERNMENT AGENCY THAT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR WATER TABLE AND WELLS. I'M NOT. I'M NOT SURE. BUT AFTER THIS MEETING AND CERTAINLY WORK WITH OUR STAFF AND GET YOU THAT INFORMATION THANK YOU BECAUSE WELLS ARE A BIG CONCERN FOR US OUT IN THE COUNTRY. WE DON'T WE RELY ON OUR WELLS. WE DON'T HAVE CITY WATER.
I DON'T PARTICULARLY WANT CITY WATER LIKE MY WILL. UM AND I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAD TO SAY.
SO THANK YOU QUESTION AGAIN. GOOD. PAGE. AGENCY CONTROLS. WELL. YEAH SO IF OUR WEALTH IS DAMAGED BY ALL THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING IN AROUND US. WHAT IS THE AGENCY THAT WOULD SUPPORT US AND, UM FRANKLIN COUNTY HELP US. YOUR INTERNET IN. YOU'RE NOT IN THE FILM YOUR HAND IN THE CITY, RIGHT? WE ARE IN THE TOWNSHIP, RIGHT? FRANKLIN COUNTY BOARD OF HEALTH COULD HELP YOU
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WITH THAT INFORMATION. FRANKLIN COUNTY WATER CAN. EXACTLY THE TERM IT IS. DEALS WITH THE AQUIFER. YEAH, THAT'S IT. YES I'VE DEALT WITH THEM. THEY'RE PRETTY TRENDY. THEY HAVE THE MAIN OFFICE OVER THERE AND ROUTE 40. JUST HOUSTON RANKS BURGERS FACILITY THERE. THEY CAN. STOP IT. YOU CAN CALL ME ON THE PHONE. GIVE YOU ALL KINDS OF INFORMATION. OKAY THAT'S THAT'S WHERE I WENT BACK YEARS AGO. AND MY WEALTH. OKAY? THANK YOU THAT AFRICAN FRANKLIN COUNTY OF SOIL AND AGRICULTURE DEPARTMENT. THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE THEY HAVE A BIG FACILITY OVER AROUND 40.THEY'RE JUST EAST OF. AND BASICALLY THEY HAVE A DIVISION IN THEIR DIVISION. SURFACE WATER AND RUN THE RAINWATER AND WELLS. THEY HANDLE ALL THAT STUFF. YEAH, THANK YOU. I HAVE ONE MORE CARD AND IT IS FOR DAVID JONES. THANK YOU. I'M JUST. I THINK YOU HAVE A GREAT IDEA. I MEAN, AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE COULD PUT THAT IN THERE ABOUT BECAUSE I THINK IF WE GET A SITUATION WHERE THE WELL'S DRY, OFFICIALLY WELL DRIED UP ANYWAY, IT'S PROBABLY ARE DEVELOPING THE COST, SO I MEAN, THERE SHOULD BE SOMETHING INTO THAT SAYS SOMEBODY SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE. RIGHT? ACCOUNTABILITY IS A HUGE ISSUE. I MEAN, PARKS OBVIOUSLY, IS ONE TO HAVE PARK. YOU WANT TO HAVE OPENED MY HANDS AND I THINK IT'S BEEN SAID NEVER AGAIN. YOU SHOULD BE HOME. YOU SHOULD BE ACCOUNTABLE. IF YOU'RE DEVELOPING A PLACE LIKE THIS. YOU SHOULD HAVE THE PARK RIGHT HERE AT THE PLACE SO PEOPLE CAN USE IT. YOU SHOULD HAVE OPEN LANDS RIGHT HERE. AND I THINK THE THING THAT I HEAR OVER AND OVER AGAIN IS TREES AND I CAN'T EMPHASIZE THIS ENOUGH. THE TREES ARE BEAUTIFUL, AND I IMPLORE EACH ONE OF YOU TO PLEASE VISIT THIS SITE. MATTER OF FACT, I, UM IN THE LAST YEAR. I'VE SEEN LIKE 30 DEER OUT THERE RIGHT ALONG THE TREE LINE, AS WELL AS 30.
TURKEY'S NAME, WHATEVER ANIMALS YOU WANT TO NAME THAT ARE RIGHT OUT THERE. HERE. SURE. ACTUALLY FIRST LAST YEAR. LIGHTNING BOX, RIGHT? EXACTLY. YES. RIGHT THERE. ON THE BOX ONE THAT YOU KNOW IT'S BEAUTIFUL BACKYARD NOW . THERE ARE HMM YEAH, THIS HAPPENS TO SHOW YOU PICTURES.
THAT'S RIGHT HERE. OF 30. TURKEY'S JUST WALKING THROUGH. SIX WALKING THROUGH THE YARD AND THEY DO THIS ON A REGULAR BASIS TO START WALKING THROUGH THE YARD DETAIL. SO COOL NOW. I MEAN, THEY HAVE TROUBLE GETTING THROUGH. I DON'T KNOW HOW. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE SOMETIMES THEY FIGURED OUT HANDS RIGHT? THERE WERE MASONS. INCREDIBLE HAWK. WE GOT OUR BOTTOM SQUIRRELS. WE HAVE ALL SORTS OF INCREDIBLE WILDLIFE. AND I WAS BEEN TOLD AND MAYBE GUEST ASSURING THAT THEY'RE NOT. THEY'RE NOT TOUCH ANY OF THE TREES. THE NORTH SIDE. ANOTHER REASON MORE POPULAR FROM THE PROBLEM. BECAUSE, UM. I MEAN, I THINK IT'S IMPERATIVE FORM OUT THERE WORKING IN THE YARD TODAY, AND I MEAN, I CAN HEAR EVERYTHING EVERYTHING HE'S GOING THROUGH, AND I DON'T THINK WE HAVE 100. AND PERSONALLY I LOOK AT THIS. I SAY THIS JUST DOESN'T PASS THE SNIFF TEST THAT IS TOO MANY HOUSES. TOO SMALL AN AREA. IF I WAS DOWN IN THE BOTTOMS AND BURGESS STREET, I'D SAY DON'T EVEN THINK IT PAST THEM JUST SAYING, HOW DO WE GET THIS HERE IN NEW ORLEANS, WHERE REALLY NICE HOUSES. REALLY NICE FACILITIES. REALLY NICE OPEN PARKS. REALLY NICE. I MEAN, AND IT'S LIKE, WELL, THIS ISN'T A HARDBALL. IT'S GONNA BE IN THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY, ISN'T IT? I MEAN, IT'S NOT NEGATIVE, SAID SO ON ITS OWN. BUT IT DOESN'T SAY WELL BUILT AFTER HE SUPPORTED $47,000 MAKER 20 YEARS AGO. UM, WHICH. IT IS WHERE IT IS. IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT RULES ARE SAYING WE GOT THESE RULES. THEY SAID.
WELL, IF YOU GIVE US SOME PRIVATE WINDOW STARTED, IT'S MORE OF A, UM, PAYMENT OF LIKE THIS MONEY WILL JUST FORGIVE YOU. YOU DON'T HAVE TO BUILD A PARK. YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE OPEN SPACES. YOU ANY OF THE OTHER RULES THAT WE PUT IN FORCE. SO IT MEANS LIKE THIS AREA, BUT HE SHOULDN'T BE ANY LESS IMPORTANT THAN YOU MENTIONED. COUNTRY CLUB IN THE COUNTRY CLUB IS BEAUTIFUL. I MEAN, WHEN I GO TO THE LOBBY, WALKING FASTER EACH YEAR AND SERVE AS A MARSHAL OR VOLUNTEER , WALKED AT THIS YEAR, AND I MEAN YOU LOOK AT IT. IT'S
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GORGEOUS. I MEAN, THIS SHOULD BE GORGEOUS, TOO. I MEAN, IT SHOULDN'T BE JUMPED UP AND PUT LIKE SARDINES AND LITTLE BOXES AND THEN SAID, WELL, WE DO HAVE PARK SPACE THAT WE'VE HAD, BUT IT'S NOT HERE. IT'S LIKE MILES AWAY. IT SHOULD BE PARK SPACE RIGHT THERE. THAT'S WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE. AND I THINK WE SHOULD FOLLOW THE RULES AND I MEAN EVERYBODY SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE. AND GO AHEAD AND I HAVE EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE FOR NEW ALBANY. SHOULD BE IF THIS COULD BE THE WALL, BUT IT SHOULD BE NEW ALBANY. IT SHOULDN'T BE. WELL. THIS IS JUST A PLACE OUT IN THE COUNTRY THAT WE WANT TO PUT 100 AND 50 HOUSES SO WE CAN MAKE A LOT OF MONEY. I AM PROBABLY GOING OVER A LITTLE BIT HERE. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS YOU GUYS HAVE FOR ME? I AM VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS, AND I DID EMPLOY EACH ONE OF YOU. LIKE I SAID, TO GO OUT THERE AND VISIT IT. UM I THINK MY WIFE AND I ALWAYS TAKE A BET HOW MUCH WILDLIFE WILL SEE WHEN YOU WALK DOWN THERE WHERE WE SEE A BOXER. OBAMA SQUIRREL OR DEER OR TURKEYS OR SOMETHING, BECAUSE THERE'S ALWAYS SOME TYPE OF ANIMAL OUT THERE. AND I'M AFRAID THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE A AVERAGELY AFFECTED BY THIS PROJECT. BUT I THINK I DID WANT TO SAY KATHERINE'S IDEA ABOUT HAVING GRASSLANDS ALONG THAT AREA. EXCELLENT IDEA. I THINK YOU GUYS ARE DOING THAT. SO THAT'S SOMETHING POSITIVE, BUT I MEAN, IF I WAS TO DO ONE THING I SAID, ACTUALLY SAVE THE TREES.WOULD YOU SAY YOU'RE GONNA DO SURE THAT'S IN THE NOTES SOMEWHERE? THERE'S FOUR HOUSES RIGHT THERE BECAUSE I'M RAINS, AND I'M EXAGGERATING. THE FIRST TIME I STARTED SCARY DEFICIT THAT WAS LIKE A RIVER THOUGHTS BUT ASKING THE FLOODED BUT LIKE A RIVER COMES ROLLING THROUGH THAT WHOLE AREA. JUST THAT WHOLE. I WISH I HAD A I THINK SO. I GOT ON THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED. BUT THIS WHOLE AREAS LIKE RIP JUST COMES RIGHT DOWN TO THE ROLLING THROUGH HERE.
YEAH SHE'S GOT A GREAT PICTURE TO SHOW YOU GUYS. FIRST STREET. THEY MAKE THEIR OWN MAPS. AND SO THAT'S HIS HOUSE SCARED. THAT'S CONSERVATION. THAT'S THE PROPERTY. YOU CAN SEE WHAT THEIR DOES. WHAT. FROM THE BLOOD AND IN THE DARKNESS COLORED PEOPLE. AND IT'S NOT JUST LIKE 5% IN THE MAP. IT'S NOT LIKE FIVE OR 6. FT LONG COMES OVER. IT IS JUST ROLLING RIGHT HERE. BUT IT'S ABOUT I MEAN, I'M NOT EXAGGERATING ABOUT 20 FT. WHY RIVER COMING THROUGH? THESE HOUSES WERE HERE. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE BASES OR BASES OR NOT, THAT THEY VERY WELL COULD BE. JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. I MEAN, IF YOU CAN PROBABLY TELL ON OPPOSED TO THE PROJECT. I'D RATHER NOT HAPPEN. BUT IF IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN I WANT TO BE IS I WANTED TO BE A NEW ALBANY PRACTICAL. I'LL BE PROUD OF UM, THAT HAS PARKS THAT HAS, UM, HOPEFULLY NO HOUSES THAT ARE FLOODED. AND HAVE ANIMALS THAT CAN STILL ENJOY THE AREA, AND HOPEFULLY WE WON'T LOSE OUR HAWKS AND TURKEYS AND OUR DEAR AND EVERYTHING ELSE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.
CONGESTED FOR QUESTIONS. YES, PLEASE. MY NAME IS BECKY BURGESS AND I LIVE AT 8065 CLASSROOM. I WANTED TO ASK COMMUNITY. HAVE YOU EVER WALKED THIS AREA JERSEY SIDING ON. NO, NO, NONE OF YOU HAVE WATCHED IT. I KNOW OF IT. I HAVEN'T PERSONALLY OVER THE YEARS. OKAY SO YOU'RE CUTE.
PROBABLY DIDN'T HAVEN'T SEEN THE WETLAND PONDS. THAT IS THERE IS THAT BIG, HUGE AREAS THERE. AND IT IS FEDERALLY PROTECTED, AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE. AND THIS AREA. BECAUSE OF INTEL.
AND YOU KNOW THIS IS THE LAND OF INTEL. THAT'S NEXT TO IT. NOTHING. IS LEFT. WE'RE GETTING . HAVE BEEN GETTING ANIMALS FROM THAT AREA CONSTANTLY. BECAUSE IT'S REALLY WEIRD FOR HIM TO GO.
I MEAN, THEY'VE BEEN WIPED OUT. AND SO WHAT? I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE MADE ANY PROVISION FOR WILDLIFE TO BE ABLE TO TRAVEL THROUGH. FROM THOSE AREAS, TOO. THE WETLANDS.
I DON'T KNOW. I THINK THEY KIND OF GO WHEREVER THEY WANT. WELL, SURE THEY GO WHEREVER THEY WANT, BUT WHEREVER THEY CAN GO, I MEAN, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BOARDING AWFUL LOT OF THEM THAT THEY'RE NORMALLY GOING THROUGH. SO. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE SOME IF YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE
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THIS DEVELOPMENT. SOME PROVISIONS FOR THAT. AND AS FAR AS THE HOMEOWNERS I WONDER. IF THEY WILL UNDERSTAND. EXACTLY THE AREA THAT THEY'RE MOVING INTO THE CHEST BEEN PARTIALLY A WETLANDS. THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE MOSQUITOES. UH, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE MAYBE DEER OR OTHER ANIMALS EATING FLOWERS OR PROPERTY. AND I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT. THEY WOULD LIKE THAT. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CAN TELL THEM. NO, YOU CAN SPRAY. YOU CAN'T SPRAY FOR MOSQUITOES.BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO THE WILDLIFE. AND I'M SURE SOME OF THEM DON'T CARE ABOUT THE WILDLIFE. LOT OF MISS DO DOGS CAN BE DETRIMENTAL. TO THE WILDLIFE AROUND THAT AREA. I KNOW YOU TALKED ABOUT A DOG PARK. MAYBE. OR LIKE TRAILS. BUT IT'S THERE. ONE THING THAT CAN BASICALLY BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE WILDLIFE. HAVE YOU TAKEN? UM PART OF THE TAILOR PHONE. DALE OR HOME. BEEN THERE. MHM YOU NOTICED THAT THEY HAVE A LARGE WETLAND FUN. AND THEIR TRAILS.
AROUND THAT WETLAND PONDS. AND THEY SAW THERE WAS IMPORTANT TO KEEP IT. AND I DON'T KNOW WHY WE CAN'T HAVE YOU KNOW THAT SAME CONSIDERATION. SO I DON'T KNOW. BUT. I JUST THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU NEED TO THINK ABOUT. AND MAYBE YOU NEED TO GO OUT AND LOOK AT IT. AND SEE EXACTLY WHAT IS THERE AND HOW IT'S ARRANGED. THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU. LIKE YOU. I GOT TO ASK. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN MY FAMILY? THANK YOU ALL . FOR TAKING YOUR TIME TO DO THIS. THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT THING. I'M GONNA BUILD RUSH HERE. I MEAN, YOU WOULD LIKE TO WALK AROUND THE NATURE CONSERVATION. 3000 I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. I THINK BILL AND I WALK CLOSE ROAD DOWN THE SEVENTHS AND SOME DOUG FINANCE AND DID ALL KINDS OF CRAZY THINGS OVER THE YEARS AND KIDS WERE ALL THERE. NOW THERE'S 40 SO YOU CAN FIGURE OUT I WANT TO KNOW THAT WAS WHAT I THINK I THINK FOR COMMUNITY WERE WELL ENTRENCHED, PRESERVING THE ENVIRONMENT. AND, UH, THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT OVER. SURPRISED WE BROUGHT UP THE ANIMALS. I HAVE NOT REALLY ANTICIPATED THAT. BUT I CAN ATTEST YOU THERE TO EACH SUBDIVISIONS GOING IN NOT TOO FAR FROM MILLIONS. I HAVE THE DEER IN MY YARD EVERY NIGHT. AND I GET THE BUCKS TOO. SO IT'S NOT. IT WAS BRICK. BUT I CAN TELL YOU I CAN READ HERE, YOU KNOW, FINDING THE WHOLE VERTICAL LINE DOWN MY FRONT YARD. SO IT'S GOT TO FIND SOME PLACE TO GO. MY MOM'S MY MOM'S. OH, YEAH. IN THE BACK, YOU GOTTA GET OUT OF THE FAMILY OF FOUR RIGHT BEHIND ME TO GET OUT OF THE SPREAD IT DEAD BODY STINKS. STUFF THAT WORKS, BUT BUT I THINK, UM. WE NEED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION HERE A LITTLE BIT AND TALK ABOUT WHAT WE'VE SHARED HERE AND I'D LIKE TO GET SOME VIEWS AND BEFORE I SAY ANYTHING ELSE, AND SO LET'S LET'S BECAUSE THE NEXT THING WE CAN DO IS MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE QUESTION.
SURE BEFORE HOMES THAT ARE IN THIS SWELL WHAT WE'RE CALLING IT . HOW MANY ACRES TO THOSE HOMES COVER? PROBABLY 95 TO 30 LOTS OF MOMENTS. SO IT'S NOT A QUARTER ACRE EACH. IF IT'S THREE PAIR, IT SHOULD BE 1.3 30, RIGHT? JUST ROUGHLY AND DOING WHAT TIME THANK YOU. IT'S ABOUT ME.
I COULD MAKE MY COMMENT MORE PEOPLE ARE LOOKING MHM. YEAH OKAY. ABOUT AN ACRE FOR FOUR.
OKAY FOR THE FOUR LIVES. OKAY SO THEY'RE SMALLER UNITS. MAYBE BIGGER LOSSES. I ACTUALLY GOT
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THE SAME TREAT, OKAY? SO WE TRIED TO THE 151 UNITS NUMBER. I MEAN, IS IT SO IT'S THAT'S ER YEAH, OF COURSE. YOU'RE RIGHT. BASICALLY WE COLLECTIVELY YEAH. COUNCIL FOR THAT, OKAY. APPROVAL WAS MOVING FOUR LAST WERE THEY WERE THERE TO MOVE THEM UP TUESDAY. OKAY WE HAD ORIGINALLY HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT TRYING TO DO THAT. THAT WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT STAFF ONE OF THE HOMES OF BACKUP PRECEDENT SO WE KIND OF KEPT PUSHING THROUGH WITH THE FOUR LARGE REMAINING ALONG THE WEST BECAUSE HE GOT THE COUNCIL. I THINK THEY FELT HEY, GIVEN THE CIRCUMSTANCES, GIVEN THE FEEDBACK, ESPECIALLY FROM THE DAVIES THAT HEY, THIS WOULD BE A SITUATION TO MOVE THOSE FOUR UP THERE BECAUSE OUR COURTYARDS WILL NOW FACE THE MAIN ROAD. SO THERE'S NOT GONNA HAVE THAT. ACTIVELY USABLE AREA IN THE BACK, SO IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN, AND IT DOESN'T GO AGAINST YOUR CODE. AS FAR AS ONE HOME TO BACK UP THE OPEN SPACE IS GOING TO SIGN TO HIM AND THEREFORE SO I THINK WE REALLY GOT TO THE POINT OF THOSE. THE NUMBER OF LOTS WAS MADE SENSE. I THINK IT MAKE. IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW. IS THAT YOUR CODE, YOU KNOW REFERENCED A COUPLE OF TIMES DOES ALLOW FOR THREE YEARS AN ACRE MHM WERE 2.37. 338 SO? SO WE'RE NOT AT THE MAP DIDN'T ACCIDENT CITY OUT, SO EVERYONE LOOKED AT THIS AS WELL. THIS LOOK AT THIS, AND I SEE A LOT OF SPACE IN THE FRONT ALONG CENTRAL COLLEGE AND I SEE A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE AND COMMITTED TO THE NEIGHBORS, WHETHER IT BE OUR WORST INVOLVEMENT, GIVEN MORE SPACE ALONG THE PERIMETER OF THIS PROPERTY AND SAVE TREES. TO MOVE THE FOUR LOSS TO ANOTHER LOCATION. SO WE'VE REALLY WORKED A LOT OF THE NEIGHBORS. YOU'RE NOT HEARING THIS TONIGHT. WE'VE MADE A LOT OF CHANGES THE PLANS ALL THE WAY THROUGH THAT. WE THINK THAT'S WHY WE GOT UNANIMOUS APPROVAL COUNCIL IS A RECOGNIZED YOU'VE BEEN WORKING WITH HIM. WE HAVE A MEETING SET UP WITH DAVIES NEXT WEEK. THE REVIEW. THIS PLAN REVIEW THE WALL. REVIEW THE PLANTINGS OF THE PART OF THE PLAN AS WELL. SO WE'RE NOT STOPPING WORKING THE NEIGHBORS, BUT, UM HOW MANY OF US BREAK OR YOU HAVE ON THE SLIDE THAT YOU SAY 2.378 0.3837. REPORTS COATED WITH QATAR. THE STANDING OUT HERE LIKE CITY CENTER AREAS. AND I THINK IT'S AN AGE RESTRICTED CODE RIGHT? IS IT RESTRICTED IS THREE PER. REMEMBER THERE'S TWO SEPARATE THINGS. THERE'S PLANNING DOCUMENTS AND THEIR CITY CODE. SO PLANNING DOCUMENTS OR POLICY DOCUMENTS AND THERE TO GUIDE OUR PLANNING COMMISSION, OUR CITY COUNCIL WHEN EVALUATING REZONING AND A ZONING ESTABLISHES ACTUAL CODE, SO THE SAVINGS ALBANY STRATEGIC PLAN HAS DIFFERENT LAND USE CATEGORIES, AND IT HAS A RESIDENTIAL CATEGORY. AND SO IT'S ONE RESIDENTIAL. FOR EVERYWHERE OUTSIDE OF THE VILLAGE CENTER. AND SO IT RECOMMENDS THAT IF YOU RECOMMENDS, WHERE RESIDENTIAL SHOULD GO AND ALSO RECOMMENDS A DENSITY OF ONE UNIT PER ACRE FOR TRADITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY AND A MAXIMUM OF THREE UNITS PER ACRE FOR AGE RESTRICTED AND SO IT DOESN'T RECOMMEND LIKE WHERE THE AGE RESTRICTED AND SINGLE FAMILY SHOULD GO. BUT IT DOES SAY, HERE'S WHERE WE FEEL THAT RESIDENTIAL IS APPROPRIATE THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND THEN BASED ON THE SPECIFIC TYPES OF RESIDENTIAL USES WHAT THE MAXIMUM DENSITY SHOULD BE. SO AS WE HEARD HERE, UM AND ONE CITY COUNCIL REVIEWED THIS AS PART OF THE REZONING APPLICATION. I BELIEVE EARLIER THIS YEAR. WE'VE LOOKED AT THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN AND USE THAT TO GUIDE THEM TO MAKE A DECISION TO ALLOW FOR A DENSITY OF UP TO 2.38 ACRES OR 38 UNITS PER ACRE. I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR STAFF IN OUR PACKET. YOU HAVE SOME UNDERLYING CONCERNS. ON THE BEHALF OF THE STAFF, ONE OF WHICH IS THE FEE AND LOU OKAY? AND I THINK PROBABLY EVERY NEIGHBOR COMMUNITY PERSON THAT'S HERE. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HEARING OVER AND OVER AGAIN. UM. SO AND WE'RE NOT SEEING YOU KNOW THE OPEN SPACE ISN'T THERE? UM YEAH , BUT TO ADD MORE OPEN SPACE THAT MEANS FEWER HOMES. AND SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT HAS BEEN LOOKED AT OR WHERE THAT COULD BE ACCOMPLISHED. EVEN THOUGH CITY COUNCIL HAS SAID IT'S OKAY. THAT AND I UNDERSTAND THE FEELING THAT I REMEMBER THE LINKS. HOW ABOUT THAT? UM, UH, BUT IT'S THIS ISN'T THE FINAL THING EITHER. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT[01:55:01]
CAN BE RECONSIDERED AGAIN. I UNDERSTAND THE MONEY COMES BACK INTO NEW ALBANY OR IT'S INTO THE PARKS OR WHEREVER IT IS IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF SPACE CAN BE FOUND. ON THE SITE TO MEET THAT REQUIREMENT, WHILE I COMMEND THE DEVELOPMENT FOR STAYING UNDER THE THREE UNITS PER ACRE. YOU'RE ALSO SHORT ON THE OPEN SPACE. UM . SO SO THAT'S ONE THING THAT I SEE AS A CONCERN FOR THE STAFF ABOUT WHERE THAT'S GOING TO GO. ONE OTHER THING IS THE, UM AH! AH SCHEDULE ABOUT HOW THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE OPEN SPACE THAT HASN'T BEEN TALKED ABOUT IT ALL. YES. SO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW FROM THE STAFF. WHAT THAT CONCERN IS YES. SO JUST REAL QUICK TO GO BACK AND MOUNDS OF THE REZONING AND THE COMMITMENTS WERE OPEN SPACE. SO THIS PROPERTY IS OWNED P U D A BEAUTY ALLOWS FOR FLEXIBILITY AND DESIGN STANDARDS. SO ESSENTIALLY ALLOWS THE APPLICANT TO WRITE THEIR OWN CODE, AND THAT CODE IS EVALUATED BY OUR PLANNING COMMISSION IN OUR CITY COUNCIL. AND WHAT'S THE CODE ALLOWS IS FOR AND WHAT ARE PLENTY COMMISSIONER CITY COUNCIL APPROVED IS TO ALLOW FOR THAT OFF SITES, PARKS AND OPEN SPACE AND SHE PAY A FEE AMOUNTS. AND SO WHAT A BEAUTY DOES. IT SETS THE GENERAL FRAMEWORK AND REGULATIONS FOR A SUBDIVISION? SO IT AND IT PROVIDES FOR THE GENERAL STREET CONNECTIONS WHERE THE PARKS AND OPEN SPACE WILL BE AND PROVIDES FOR ARCHITECTURAL AND LANDSCAPE DETAILS. YOU HEAR US SAY OFTEN, OR MAYBE WE SAY THIS TO OTHER BOARDS MORE OFTEN PLANNING COMMISSION INTO RESIDENTS THAT PEOPLE ASK FOR A LOT OF DETAILS OF THE REZONING STAGE. AND WE SAY, WELL, WE'RE SETTING THE FRAMEWORK NOW AND THEN WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT THAT FRAMEWORKS BEING FOLLOWED AS PART OF THE FINALS DOMINANT PLAN. AND SO THIS IS THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN, SO THE GENERAL FRAMEWORK FOR THE SUBDIVISION HAS BEEN SET AND TODAY AND IN FUTURE MEETINGS FOR THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLANS OF PARKS AND TRAILS PLANNING COMMISSION IS TO EVALUATE THE DESIGN AND THE SUITABILITY OF THE PROPOSED AMENITIES AND IMPROVEMENTS OF THE SPECIFIC LANDSCAPING. IN THE TALL GRASS IS THE FINAL LOCATIONS FOR LEISURE TRAILS AS EXAMPLES TO MAKE SURE THOSE ARE FOLLOWING THOSE CODE REGULATIONS . SO YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A TIME FRAME FOR THAT. SO THAT'S WHAT THE REVIEW IS TODAY AND THEN FOR THE TIME FRAME, SO WHAT ARE CODE ? I BELIEVE THE COURAGE IS, IS THAT THESE AMENITIES BEING STALLED WITH THE INITIAL PHASES CODE DOESN'T WANT US FOR INITIAL PHASE BECAUSE IF THIS WAS SUBDIVISION LIST TO BE PHASED AND BUILT IN PARTS THAT YOU KNOW, THE INITIAL 50 LOTS ARE BUILT WITHOUT ANY PARKS ARE OPEN SPACE, SO OUR CODE DISCOURAGES THAT AND INSTEAD ENCOURAGES THAT THESE OPEN SPACE AND THE CLUB HOUSES BE BUILT WITH PHASE ONE SO RESIDENTS IMMEDIATELY HAVE THAT TO ENJOY AND PARTAKEN. OKAY COULD THOSE FOUR UNITS THE ORIENTED IN A DIFFERENT WAY TO ALLOW MORE USABLE SPACE ON EITHER SIDE? DO THEY HAVE TO BE SIDEWAYS? WE GOT THE SIDEWAYS REALLY? BECAUSE BECAUSE THE OUTDOOR LIVING SPACE FOR HOMES THE COURTYARD CAN NOW FACE THE STREET. SO THEREFORE THERE'S NO LIVING SPACE ON THE SIDE OF THE HOME AND THEREFORE ENCOURAGE THOSE FOUR RESIDENTS. THAT KIND OF TAKE OVER THAT OPEN SPACE. I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT STAFF IS RAISED RELIGION WITH THE DESIGN. WE ORIGINALLY HAD HIM WHERE HE COULD MAYBE GO A LONG WAYS, BUT THAT WOULD BE IN THE COURTYARD STILL BE ON THE SIDE. BUT THAT WOULD BE TRULY THE BACK OF THE HOME. SO I THINK THE COMPROMISE. THAT COUNCIL WAS THE VIEW WAS THE BEST WAY TO ORIENTATE THEM TO THE SIDE. COURTYARDS CAN FACE THE STREET AND DIMINISH THE AMOUNT OF ACTIVE AREA ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE HOMES, BASICALLY, SO TO THE WEST. BUT OKAY, I GUESS LIKE I WASN'T I WASN'T I THOUGHT PARTICULAR MEETING BUT I GUESS I SEE IT MORE LIKE IF THEY WERE LONG WAYS LIKE NOBODY'S GOING TO GO BACK THERE ANYWAY. I WOULDN'T THINK IF THEY WERE LONG WIGS WITH THAT ALLOW MORE USABLE. SPACE ON EITHER SIDE. LIKE IF YOU DID A DOG PARKER SIDEWAYS. I'M NOT A DEVELOPER. THE OTHER PART OF THAT THAT WE GOT INTO WAS THAT DRAINAGE AREA. THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF DRAINAGE IT COMES. IT'S NOT BUILDABLE, BUT IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WHERE AND IT'S NOT EVERY DAY. IT'S KIND OF PREVENTS CATASTROPHIC A REASON SOME KIND, SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO DESIGN IT, SO IT'S LARGE AND NOT HAVE THE HOMES BACK IN EAST. FOR ME. I'M SEEING TOO BIG ISSUES IS 19. THERE'S A LOT. TO BE SHORT, AND I FEEL LIKE I'M A REALTOR, AND I JUST CAN'T IMAGINE SELLING AN ACRE LOT FROM 42,012. AND I'M LIKE WHY UM THOSE ARE MY TWO. CAN WE CLOSED THE GAP ON BOTH OF THOSE THINGS? WE HAVE THAT[02:00:07]
CONVERSATION. SO THE AMOUNT TOWN MANSION SO I'LL LET BEN TRYING TO AFTER ME IF YOU LIKE. BUT SO THE PAYMENTS THE PAYMENT, SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT CITY COUNCIL REVIEWS, SO THAT'S OUTSIDE OF THE PURVIEW OF THIS BOARD. IT'S ALSO OUTSIDE OF THE PURVIEW OF OUR PLANNING COMMISSION. SO I THINK THERE WAS A LOT OF GOOD COMMENTS TONIGHT. AND BUT THOSE WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING IN THE FUTURE, AND WE CAN CERTAINLY SEND OUT THAT DATE SO THAT OUR CITY COUNCIL HAS THAT FOR THEIR EVALUATION THAT THE 17TH AND THE 18TH OF OCTOBER WHATEVER THAT TUESDAY THOUGHT I LOOKED IT UP BEFORE I CAME. WHAT IS THAT TUESDAY NEWS. ASSAD IS A SECOND READING. MAYBE APPLICATION IS NOT SCHEDULED TO BE ON THE OCTOBER 17TH MEETING.IT'S NOT. IT'S GOING TO PLANNING COMMISSION ON OCTOBER 16TH, OKAY? SO I WOULD ANTICIPATE HEARING DATA NOVEMBER BUT CERTAINLY YOUR EVERYONE HERE IS MORE THAN WELCOME TO CONTACT US AND WE CAN TELL EVERYBODY IN THOSE STATES ONCE WERE ESTABLISHED. WE TYPICALLY DON'T SCHEDULE COUNCIL HEARINGS UNTIL IT'S GONE THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND, OF COURSE, THE PARKS AND TRAILS ADVISORY BOARD. OKAY? MY COMMENT IS IT LOOKS LIKE IF I'M ORIENTED CORRECTLY THAT WESTERN BORDER. IS THAT THE TREE LINE THAT'S CONNECTING SOME WETLANDS IS THAT CORRECT? AND IT'S PRETTY WET. MAYBE WITH A CREEK. DOORS NORTH. THANK YOU, UM SO I COULD SEE WHERE AND THIS PART OF OUR CITY. LESS THAN 20. I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT. ALTHOUGH IN OTHER PLACES OF THE CITY I COULD SEE WHERE THERE WAS SOME FLEXIBILITY. UM SO TO ME. IF YOU'RE GONNA NOT GIVE US 20% FOR, YOU KNOW FOR THE GREEN SPACE. I'D RATHER SEE THAT WHOLE LINE ALL THE WAY UP TO THE BACK OF THE HOUSES AND HAVE I DON'T KNOW. 40% REDUCTION OF GREEN SPACE SO THAT THAT IS PRESERVED.
AS AND MADE INTO A TRAIL TO CONNECT AND USE SOME OF THAT WETLAND AND WILDLIFE AREA. I FEEL LIKE IF WE CAN HAVE THAT 20. UM SHORTAGE BACK THEN, JUST . MAKE IT 40% AT LEAST KEEP THE SPACE AND MAKE IT A TRAIL ACCESSIBLE TO THE COMMUNITY. THOSE ARE THE TWO THINGS AND PRESERVE THE WET SPACE AND THE CONNECTIVITY OF ANIMALS. 40. OH I'M MAKING IT UP. I'M SAYING THE PROPOSAL IS 20% SHORT ON GREEN SPACE, CORRECT, OKAY, SIX. THANK YOU. I SAID, I SAID 19% SO I TOOK YOUR SHORT AGE AND DIVIDED BY THE TOTAL EIGHT REGION CAME UP WITH 19% AT 17, DIVIDED BY 21. OKAY? FIVE POINT IT IS. HOW FAR WILL THE KIDS MILLER PARK BE FROM THIS AND? AND IS IT CONNECTED BY TRAILS LIKE COULD THEY WALK THERE IS THAT CLOSER THAN THE 1.7 MILES FOR ASSUMPTION PARK. SO KITZMILLER PARK IS JUST SOUTH OF WHAT I CALL THE FIVE POINTS INTERSECTION. THERE'S NO TRAIL ON KITZMILLER TODAY. OKAY OF THAT AREA STILL WITHIN THE TOWNSHIP ALONG US, 62 AND CERTAINLY ARE. WE SHOULD TRAIL MASTER PLAN AND OUR PARK SHELLS RECOMMENDS THAT THERE BE LEISURE TRAIL CONNECTIONS SO YOU KNOW, I'M SURE IT'LL HAPPEN SOMEDAY AS DEVELOPMENT OCCURS AND CONTINUES DOWN THAT CORRIDOR, BUT CERTAINLY THAT'S ONE PLACE THAT WE WOULD YOU KNOW OUR PLANS AND WE WOULD ENCOURAGE CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN THIS RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION OTHER ONE OTHER FUTURE ONES, AND THEN YOU KNOW OUR ENTIRE PART FRAME NETWORK. I WOULD IMAGINE THAT PROBABLY FOR THE YEARS OUT THERE. END UP BEING MASTER PLAN. I WAS MAKING DENTS CONNECTOR. I MEAN, THAT CERTAINLY IS. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS KIND OF BELT DOWN THERE. WE HAVE TO GET TO IT, AND THERE HAS TO BE ACCESS FROM GOING FOR BLOCKING AND BITES AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SO THAT WILL END UP GETTING IN THE MASTER PLAN, BUT THEN YOU HAVE TO RELY ON THE HOMEOWNER. I MEAN, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO SOLVE A PORTION OF THE FRONT OF YOUR LAWN SO THAT WE COULD BIKE OVER THERE. I'M SAYING IT UP. NOW WE HAVE THOSE SITUATIONS AND WORK.
YEAH. I APOLOGIZE ON THE MOUTH IS 17.66 INSTEAD OF 21 ACRES. NEVERTHELESS IT'S NOT FULL
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AMOUNT. I THINK IT'S THE WHOLE POINT. YEAH WHAT ARE PLANS RECOMMEND IS TO SET THINGS UP FOR FUTURE CHANGES. AS WE'VE ALL SEEN THINGS CHANGE. AND SO OUR PLANS AND CODE SET THINGS UP FOR FUTURE CONDITIONS WHEN YOU KNOW REDEVELOPMENT SHOULD OCCUR, SO THERE'S NO TIME FRAMES AND I'M SURE WE ALL HAVE A LIST OF WE SHOULD TRAILS WE'D LIKE TO SEE CONNECTED, BUT CERTAINLY WE PROVIDE THOSE STUBS AND THOSE CONNECTIONS FOR WHEN SOMETHING ELSE HAPPENS THAT IT CAN CONTINUE THOSE CONNECTIONS AND THEN AUTUMN WILL BE PART OF A LARGER NETWORK. WITH THE DEVELOPER. CONSIDER TAKING ONE OF THESE LARGER CORNER. LAWRENCE. I KNOW THAT TAKES YOU DOWN BY ONE UNIT. BUT YOU KNOW, COULD THERE BE A GAZEBO INTERVENTION OF PARK ON ONE OF THESE ACCESSIBLE CORNER LOTS. WITHOUT. HELP INCREASE THE PARK SPACE AND JUST GIVE SOME JUST MAKE IT FEEL A LITTLE LESS. CONGESTED. I GUESS I'M C N A. THIS IS THIS IS MY OBSERVATION AND UNFORTUNATELY GUYS MISSED A LOT OF DIALOGUE. WHEN ALL THIS WAS KIND OF BEING TOGETHER. I WATCHED IT ON IT. YEAH, I DID MY HOMEWORK TODAY WHILE I WAS MAKING THE KIDS A PIZZA CAME INTO ONE OF THE DISCUSSIONS WE HAD AT ONE POINT BECAUSE THIS THIS HAD DISCUSSIONS ALL THE WAY THROUGH. SOME OF THIS IS HOW TO ALBANY ACCOUNTS, OPEN SPACE AND PARK. HOW ARE THEY CONSIDERED THE AREAS? YOU SEE THOSE PONDS? THOSE ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THE ACREAGE. THE LARGE DEEP LOTS ALONG THE EAST THAT HAVE THE EXTRA SPACE IN THE BACK. THAT COULD BE OPEN SPACE NOT USABLE OR NOT COUNTING, SO THERE'S MORE THAN THE REQUIREMENT OF ACREAGE HERE. IT'S MORE HOW THE CODE SAYS YOU HAVE TO COUNT IT. SO THAT WAS A BIG DISCUSSION. WE HAVE MORE THAN NOT ACREAGE IS JUST HOW IT'S COUNTS BACK ISN'T CONSIDERED MORE THAN JUST PROPER LINE DEEPER, LIKE A, UM AND THEN AND THEN THE OTHER THING WAS TO UNDERSTAND BECAUSE OUR OUR COMMUNITIES COME WITH A AMENITY INACTIVE AMENITY FOR OUR RESIDENTS, SO WERE THE AMOUNT OF PARKLAND OPEN SPACES NEXT WEEK.YEAH ONLY NEEDED. WE PROVIDE AN AMENITY ON THERE. THE CLUBHOUSE POOL PICKLEBALL. THOSE COMPONENTS ARE UNIQUE TO WHAT WE DO. SO I THINK COMBINATION OF ALL THOSE ITEMS LET EVERYBODY SAY IN THIS CASE, IT'S NOT GONNA BE HERE. WE HAVE MORE THAN ENOUGH ACREAGE ON PHYSICALLY ON THE LAND. BUT IT DOESN'T GET COUNTED BY STAFF IN THE CODE. SO THEREFORE BECAUSE OF THAT AMOUNT OF ACREAGE AND OUR AMENITY AREA IN THIS CASE THAT FEELING BLUE MAKES SENSE. FOR WHAT WE DO AND HOW THE COMMUNITY WE BUILT AND THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE SAYING WELL, I DON'T WANT TO BUILD BY THIS. EVERYONE AROUND HERE OUT HERE, TOWNSHIP LIVE IN LARGE LOTS. WE LOOK AT THE PROPERTY MAN. THAT'S THAT'S AWESOME FOR ME. MAYBE YOU WOULDN'T BUT WE ONLY BOUGHT WE ONLY BUILD HOUSES. PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE THERE. SO WE'RE NOT BUILDING THESE FOR F CON OPEN PEOPLE MOVIN TRIED AND TRUE. KIND OF PROGRAM. AND NOT THE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO LIVE IN FIVE ACRES AND ALL THE WOODS. THEY DON'T WANT TO MOVE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND VICE DIVERSITY. AND SO AGAIN, I THINK THAT WAS A VERY IMPORTANT COMPONENT THAT OUR COMMUNITIES ARE UNIQUE. THEY ARE SURVEYS AND A BUYER THAT'S IN YOUR COMMUNITY . IF YOU LOOK AT THE DEMOGRAPHICS EVERY DAY, IT'S EVERYBODY'S TURNING 55 53% OF POPULATION HERE SOON, SO WE NEED MORE OF THIS TWO YEARS, YOU KNOW, OKAY, SO ANYWAY, THERE'S SOMETIMES MAYBE. AND MAYBE YOU'VE HEARD ALL THAT. BUT MAYBE SOME OF YOU HAVE BEEN LEFT OUT, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSION AROUND THE AREA THAT'S ON PHYSICALLY ON THIS LOCATION. THE AMENITY VALUE TO OUR RESIDENTS AND WHAT THAT MEANS FROM FROM PARKLAND STANDPOINT. UH AND SO THAT ALL LED TO AGAIN UNANIMOUS COUNCIL WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE LOO UP AND THEN THE FINAL NUMBERS, I THINK WAS MORE WHEN WE GET THERE IS AT 42 THOUSANDS RIGHT NUMBER OR SOME OTHER NUMBER WILL GET THERE. WHENEVER WE COME IN FOR THE PLANTS. WE DON'T COME IN FOR CLASS FOR A WHILE, MAYBE MORE WE COME IN IN NOVEMBER. MAYBE IT'S THE SAME.
MAYBE IT'S GONE UP A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE'LL WORK THAT OUT. YES, SO IF ADDING HEART SPACE IS NOT AN OPTION? WOULD COULD WE AT LEAST LOOK AT? I MEAN, THIS IS NOT PART OF OUR THING, BUT LOOKING AT FAIR MARKET VALUE JUST SO THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT WE GIVE BACK TO THE PARKS. SO AGAIN, THAT'S THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S UP TO COUNCIL DECIDE. NOT NECESSARILY FOR US TO DECIDE. I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF HISTORY TO THIS DEVELOPMENT THAT EVERYBODY'S KIND OF ALLUDED TO TONIGHT, OKAY? AND I JUST WANT EVERYBODY REMEMBER TONIGHT YOU'RE IN AN ADVISORY CAPACITY TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OF PLANNING COMMISSION ABOUT WHAT'S PRESENTED AS IT RELATES TO THE PARKLAND AND THE BLUE UP. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT OUR CAPACITY ISN'T OUR JOB HERE. IT'S NOT TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDING THE VALUATION OF THE LAND OR REDESIGNED THE SUBDIVISION OR NECESSARILY, BUT THE BANK THAT RECOMMENDATION THAT PLANNING COMMISSION BIGGER POINT. THESE.
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TIME TO CATCH FACES THEIR CATCH BASES. THIS IS PART OF THEIR WATER SYSTEM TO HELP GET RID OF THIS IS VERY WET LAND, SO THEY WANTED CREDIT OR, YOU KNOW, SAME OLD. CONSIDER THAT AS PART OF PARK THEM, BUT IT'S JUST PART OF THE DRAINAGE SYSTEM. IT'S JUST YOU'RE SEEING IT ON TOP, AND SOMETIMES YOU CAN LOOK GOOD. SOMETIMES YOU CAN LOOK BAD. LIKE WHAT SONGS SIX OR FIVE NO ARMY CAN GET RIGHT NOW. UM SO I DON'T YOU KNOW, THEY SAY GIVE US YOU KNOW YOU CREDIT THE DRAINAGE PLANTS AND THOSE BIG LOTS OF THEIR BECAUSE THAT'S VERY WHAT AND IN THE WATER IS COMING ACROSS THERE. SO THOSE, UM BUT THEY'RE THEY'RE ASKING FOR SOME CREDIT FOR THOSE PLACES, WHICH IS REALLY JUST PART OF THE DRAINAGE. WILL THAT BE MAINTAINED BY THE STUDYING EVERYBODY HAD TO WEIGH THE STORM. MODERATE ATTENTION BASINS WILL BE MAINTAINED BY THE H L.A. THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY WILL REVIEW THAT'S DESIGNED AND AS FAR AS I SLOPE AND NORMAL POOL LEVEL FROM ENGINEERING, AND THEN ALSO, UM IT'S A LANDSCAPING AS WELL. SO WHAT IS THE TOTAL ACRES OF THE NON BUILDABLE SPACE, LIKE ARE THE. LIKE THERE'S A TOTAL AND THERE'S A USABLE STAYS DAYS.
WE DID FIVE ACRES IN AND I THINK MR BELL. OKAY? UM JUST ON THE EAST AND WEST. BUT THEN, YOU KNOW FROM THAT, IN THE LAST LOST AT A WHERE YOU ARE. PROBABLY PLASTIC, SO WE DON'T EVEN TRYING OKAY? YES, EXACTLY. NEWS THAT THE NEXT RENDITION WILL SHOW A PATH BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS SO THAT PEOPLE CAN ACCESS THAT BACK CORNER WE WANT TO DO WITH THAT IS FIRST OF ALL ONE SLIDE THOSE TOWARDS THE WEST. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO LOOK TO SEE WHERE A PATH CAN GO ENGINEERING THE BALL, BUT ENGINEERING, WE CAN WORK FROM NINJA IN PERSPECTIVE. COMMITTED TO BUILDING AS LONG AS IT CAN BE APPROVED. MEASURING SO OUR ACTOR WHAT WE'RE ACTING ON TONIGHT AS I WE CAN, EITHER IT'S THE IN LIEU OF AS PROPOSED OR. NOT RECOMMENDING THE IN LIEU OF IS THAT THOSE ARE OUR ONLY OPTIONS BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE THE UNITS ARE LOCKED IN. THERE'S NOT REALLY ROOM FOR ADDING MORE REQUIRING MORE. GREAT OPEN SPACE AT THIS POINT AND SO AND WE CAN'T MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE AMOUNT THE AMOUNT SO IT'S KIND OF A RECOMMENDING THE IN LIEU OF OR NOT IS SO SAID, THE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE FEED PAYMENT OR THE IN LIEU OF LAND. DEDICATION IS OUTSIDE OF THIS SPORTS. PRETTY FOR TONIGHT. YEAH. SO THIS BOARD IS LOOKING AT THE APPROPRIATENESS IN THE SUITABILITY OF THE PROPOSED PARK AMENITIES LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT HOW THIS IS MADE TO FLOOD AND CONVEY WATER, SO THE BOARD PRODUCT CODE IS TO EVALUATE THE SUITABILITY. YOU KNOW OF THIS LAND, YOU KNOW FOR TALL GRASSES AND OPEN SPACE. BASED ON ITS SOILS AND ITS DRAINAGE AND ITS TYPE AND ITS TYPOLOGY. AND SO THAT'S AN EXAMPLE. SAME WITH THE CLUBHOUSE, YOU KNOW? IS THAT AN APPROPRIATE AMENITIES BEING PROVIDED AS WE DISCUSSED EARLIER TO JUST SERVE THIS THIS TYPE OF RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. YEAH I THINK I THINK THAT'S HELPFUL AND THE CONVERSATION BECAUSE I THINK THERE WILL BE SHARE. I'LL SPEAK FOR MYSELF. THERE'S A CONCERN ABOUT NOT MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS. UM AND SO I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT OUR OPTIONS ARE. AND UM, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S THE DEMAND. WE'RE GROWING CITY.
WE'RE GROWING REGION. THERE'S A DEMAND FOR HOUSING, BUT I WANT TO BE COGNIZANT OF THE CONTEXT THAT WE'RE BUILDING IN. AND IF WE CAN AFFORD WANT TO MAXIMIZE THE, UM. CORRIDOR FOR WILDLIFE AND, UM YOU KNOW? LOOK AT I THINK WHAT LIKE YOU MENTIONED THAT. I THINK I LIKE THE TRAIL IDEA ON THAT NORTHERN SIDE. UM I THINK IT WOULD. I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND MAKING LOOKING AT THE FEASIBILITY OF THAT, UM AND THEN I'LL JUST, YOU KNOW, JUST FINISHING UP MY COMMENTS. YEAH, AS FAR AS THE IN LIEU OF, UM IF , YEAH, IF THAT'S THE ONLY OPTION, I WOULDN'T REALLY, UM LIKE TO, UM, MAKE SURE THAT THEY GET A FAIR FAIR VALUE. THE OTHER COMMENTS. WE JUST LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT, I THINK ABOUT THE WORD SUITABILITY. BECAUSE SUITABILITY CAN ALSO INCLUDE SHORT RIGHT IF YOU'RE SHORT OPEN SPACE. YOU'RE NOT NECESSARILY SUITABILITY STANDARDS. UM, LET ME GO AWAY AT
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THAT POINT. I THINK THE OTHER PIECE I WOULD SAY IS THAT I CANNOT SEEM THIS NOW PLAY OUT IS YOU ALL HAVE THE ABILITY TO SEND A MESSAGE? COMMUNICATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL? UH YOU KNOW JIMMY'S HERE TO REPRESENTATIVE BUT IN YOUR MINUTES IN YOUR IN YOUR DOCUMENT YOU CAN RECOMMEND PRETTY MUCH ANYTHING YOU KNOW. I'LL TELL YOU AUTHORITY, PERHAPS , BUT YOU CAN ALSO COMMENT AS CITIZENS OF THE COMMUNITY AND YOUR EXPERIENCES WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AROUND. WHAT YOU'VE SEEN WHAT YOU'VE HEARD TONIGHT BECAUSE WE DO HAVE SOME MEMBERS HERE THAT ARE SPEAKING THAT HAVE NOT SPOKEN BEFORE. SO GROUP CONTINUES TO MOVE HIS PEOPLE COME AND GO, BUT I WOULD HATE TO SEE THIS GROUP FEEL LIKE THEY'RE CONSTRAIN. AND WHAT THEY CAN COMMUNICATE TO THE CITY COUNCIL AT THE CITY COUNCIL DECIDE WHETHER YOU YOU KNOW IT'S A RECOMMENDATION. IT'S NOT A DECISION. THANKS. THANKS. ALRIGHT TURNING MORE COMMENTS IN THE COURTS AND CHARMING ON THAT.SO ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YES OR NO? OR THEY CAN THAT MOTION. AND CONCERNED I HAVE LISTENED TO EVERYBODY. AND, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT GONNA TRYING TO INFLUENCE EVERYBODY. BUT YOU. YOU DO SO, UM I DON'T PERSONALLY FEEL THERE'S ENOUGH PARK SPACE THERE. I KNOW PERSONALLY FEEL WITH THE $42,000 IS THAT THAT ASPECT OF IT, IT IS TOTALLY OUT OF WHACK. SO I THINK COUNCIL HAS THE PURVIEW TO WORK ON THAT. THAT'S NOT US. CORRECT THERE. THEY'RE GOING TO HANDLE THAT. AND I THINK WE CAN MAKE THAT AS A RECOMMENDATION WITH THEM. CORRECT. AND, UH, I THINK WE CAN ALSO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE CLEANERS GET TOGETHER WITH THE DEVELOPER AND SAFETY. WHAT ELSE CAN WE DO WITH THIS? I DON'T THINK WE. I DON'T THINK WE'VE EXPANDED EXTENDED ALL OF OUR TALENTS HERE. TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT HERE MIGHT NOT BE MONUMENTAL. I THINK THERE'S PROBABLY SOME THINGS HERE AND I'M NOT A DESIGNER. WE ALL TRIED IT HERE TONIGHT. BUT. IF WE'RE PLOTS ARE OBVIOUSLY STICKING AND EVERYBODY'S BROTH. SO WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THAT. MY FIRST REACTION IS LET'S JUST DO AWAY. AND I KNOW HE GOES TO THE HEART ATTACK. YEAH, BUT LET'S MAYBE WE CAN DO REARRANGING HERE. SOME WAY THAT WE CAN STILL KEEP THAT NUMBER OF UNITS AND WE CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING DIFFERENT THINGS HERE.
I GUESS I'M SUGGESTING THAT WE GET BACK TO THE DESIGNERS AND BLOCK THEM IN THE ROOM AND BEAT AFTER A WHILE. AND SEE WHAT THEY CAN COME UP WITH. I APPRECIATE THE WAY WE DO THE FORM OF WHAT THE PONDS. BUT I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYBODY PLAYED BASEBALL IN THE PARK. CAN'T USE YOU CAN'T. TO ME , THAT'S THAT'S REALLY A NEAT ENEMY. YOU CAN YOU CAN SEE THE DUCKS AND THE BUREAU COME UP AND DRINK OUT OF IT. THAT'S KIND OF NEAT. YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THAT HERE. CONSIDERING WHAT'S ALL AROUND YOU. ESPECIALLY THAT WETLAND PRESERVED OVER THERE. I GUESS I'M GOING TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION. SOMEBODY PUT IT TO WORDS THAT WE RECOMMEND YOU PROVED TO US. WHAT'S THE CONSTRAINTS? THE COUNCIL. PREVIEW A D. CLASS ASPECT. 42,000. WHEREAS THAT COULD BE USED BY A LARGER PLOT OF LAND AND SET IT OFF. LIKE THE ORIGINAL IDEA WAS, AND WE DID THIS OR IF WE DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT THERE, THEY CAN HANDLE THAT PART OF IT. AND. THE DESIGNERS GET THEIR HEADS TOGETHER AND SEE WHAT ELSE THEY CAN DO WITH THIS. AS FAR AS KEEPING THE SAME NUMBER OF UNITS. LET'S COME UP, MAYBE WITH A LITTLE DIFFERENT TO SIGN SO THAT WE CAN GET A LITTLE MORE OPEN SPACE IN HERE. I'M TERRIBLY CONCERNED. ABOUT THE WHAT POINT, SIR? I MEAN, 100, YOU'VE GOT THAT MASSIVE AREA. THAT'S A WETLANDS PRESERVE. AND I'LL BET YOU CAN GO UP THERE ANY TIME WALK AROUND SIX INCHES OF WATER. EVEN IN THE DRIEST TIMES. I MEAN , THAT'S HOW LARGE PIECE OF PROPERTY UP THERE AND IT'S COMING RIGHT THIS WAY WITH ALL THE RANGE THESE GUYS HERE? GOT THEIR HANDS FULL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MITIGATE THAT WATER. CAN BE A DIFFICULT CHOICE. GOOD LUCK. SO THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION. SO I MEAN, WHAT? PUT THAT THE WORDS OF STUFF THERE BUT AND A PART OF THE RECOMMENDATION AND IF I
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DON'T KNOW IF THAT GOES TOGETHER WITH WHAT WE WOULD APPROVE AND VOTE ON WOULD BE THAT TIMING OF PUTTING THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE OPEN SPACE AMENITIES THAT YOU KNOW THAT I THINK SEEMS TO BE VERY LOGICAL THINKER HURT ANY OPPOSITION ABOUT THAT TALK ABOUT THE TIMELINE? AND THAT THE LEISURE PATH THAT THAT PICK BACK GETS DECIDED WHETHER IT THEN IT GOES UP ALONG THE ONE SIDE OF THAT ONE POND AND MAKE IT'S GONNA DISAPPEAR ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD. SO THAT WOULD BE A PART OF THIS RECOMMENDATION THAT THAT SEEMS FINE. JUST TO CLARIFY THOSE ARE THE TWO CONDITIONS IN THE STAFF REPORT THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING TO THANK YOU CONDITIONS . YEAH YEAH, LIKE THE WORDSMITH THAT LOT WE'RE TAKING A SHOT AT HIM. UM, ANY THOUGHTS ON THE CONDITION OF WITHIN THOSE SPACES. UM TO MAKE SURE THERE'S MORE WHEELCHAIR AND STROLLER ACCESSIBILITY FOR THE PAVILION AND BENCHES AND COMMUNITY GARDENS THAT WILL BE COVERED NUMBER CODE. YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU'RE OKAY. ONCE THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN COMES THROUGH, WELL, WE'VE GOT AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THE ACTUAL AMENITIES AN ACTUAL PLAN. IS THAT AT CITY COUNCIL MEETING OKAY? THE NEXT STEP WILL BE PLANNING COMMISSION . OKAY SO IT'LL BE A PLANNING COMMISSION. OKAY, THANK YOU.CAN'T BE RIGHT NOW. I WANT SOMEBODY THAT WORKS SMOKE THAT WHAT WE DID STOP AND THEN MAKE IT. SO LIKE MAYBE PROPOSING APPROVAL WITH THE CONDITIONS OF YAHOO! REVIEWING UM, INCREASED GREEN SPACE. AND. ADDRESSING THE FLOODPLAINS SLASH WETLANDS ABUTTING AREAS. AND. WHAT'S THAT? THOSE THOSE WERE THE TWO REVIEWING THE POSSIBILITY OF WORKING AT FAIR MARKET VALUE. IF IT'S AN ENVELOPE SITUATION, I THINK IN OTHER WORDS, BUYING PROPERTY INSIDE THE SETTLEMENT FOR MONEY FINDING ADDITIONAL PIECE OF PRACTICE. CLOSE BY USING THE CONDITION OF USING THE IN LIEU MONEY, WHATEVER. THAT'S THE REASON MONEY, UM TO MAKE IT MORE A BUDDING TO FIND ADDITIONAL LAND CLOSE TO YEAH, THIS DEVELOPMENT I THINK THEY ARE. ALL RIGHT. AND THAT'S DIFFERENT. SERIOUS, HMM. THE CONDITIONS FROM THIS CAP. WIKIPEDIA SAYING, YES, THESE ARE THE TWO THINGS THAT, UM, THAT'S BEING RECOMMENDED THAT WE WOULD APPROVE TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. UM THE SUITABILITY RITA RAN OFF THE HERE THE SUITABILITY OF THE PROPOSED PARKLAND AND OPEN SPACE BASED ON THE FINDINGS AND STAFF REPORT WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.
OPEN SPACE AMENITY SHALL BE INSTALLED AND INCLUDED AS PART OF THE OVERALL SUBDIVISION, INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS SUCH AS THE STREETS AND THE UTILITIES . THAT'S THE TIMELINE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT. AND THAT THE FINAL ALIGNMENT OF THE LEISURE PATH IS SUBJECT TO THE STAFF APPROVAL.
BUT THAT DOESN'T HAVE THE MAYBE THERE'S TWO MORE EDITIONS. GEORGE WAS MENTIONING SO THERE WILL BE A NUMBER THREE AND NUMBER FOUR EDITION OF CONDITIONS, SO NUMBER THREE WOULD BE, UM, REVIEWING, UM THE PLAN TO MAXIMIZE PARKS PLAN FOR INCREASED OPEN SPACE TO INCREASE THE LEVEL OF THE 42. ABOUT 42,000 WOULD BE THE LAND PURCHASES. DEDICATED LAND. LAND.
PURCHASE OF THAT OPTION, BUT THEY CHOSE THIS ONE. DEDICATE LAND AND DID HAD YOU SAID, LIKE MORE A BUDDING FOR A CERTAIN PROXIMITY. THAT'S WHAT IT'S DONE TO 12 MILLION NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE THAT WAY, BUT THAT'S USED WITHIN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO DEVELOPMENT, RIGHT? THAT'S NOT OKAY. AND THEN, UM. INCREASED PLAN TO INCREASE OPEN SPACE. AND DID YOU WANT TO SAY WITH CONSIDERATION TO THE FLOODPLAIN SLASH WETLANDS ABUTTING AREAS? THINK ABOUT IT WAS GOING TO BE A CHANGE WITH THAT MUCH WATER UP. AND THAT IS THAT SPECIFICALLY WHEN YOU SAY THAT DO YOU NEED SPECIFICALLY THAT FAR LEFT? YES AREA. UNDER THE POND. THE WESTERN YEAH. CONSIDERATION TO
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AH WHAT LAND. A BUDDING AREA ON WEST SIDE. OF DEVELOPMENT MHM IMPORTANT. OR SIDE OF THE WETLAND IS UP THERE. THE TOP OF THE PICTURE COMES DOWN ALONGSIDE. SOMEBODY WASN'T. THAT IS THE WEST EAST SIDE, AND THIS IS THE NORTH. THE NORTH. YEAH THESE NORTH NORTH WETLANDS ABUTTING THE NORTH SIDE OF DEVELOPMENT. RIGHT? NORTH EAST. YEAH. IS CHRISTINA. OKAY? OR I CAN TRIBAL. WHAT'S GONNA NUMBER THREE AND NUMBER FOUR CONDITIONS . WOULD YOU BEAT THEM AGAIN, PLEASE? RESPECTFULLY WE NEED TO MOVE TO ADMIT THE DOCUMENTS, THE STAFF REPORTS AND RELATED DOCUMENTS INTO THE RECORD. NO I ASKED FOR A SECOND. AND THEN ASK FOR DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION.AND THEN ASK FOR THE ROLE AND I'LL CALL THE ROLE AND THAT'S WHAT THE DOCUMENTS AND THE NEXT YOU, UM, ASKED FOR A VOTE ON THE MERITORIOUS APPLICATIONS SO MOVE TO APPROVE. THE APPLICATION.
BASED ON THE CONDITIONS OF THE STAFF REPORT WITH THE CONDITIONS AND THE STAFF REPORT AND ANY ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS AND YOU KNOW THE CONDITIONS. HOME AFTER A SECOND. AND THEN ASK FOR DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION IN THE MASTER WILL CALL AND YOU GET CONFUSING. SO FIRST I'M NOT THAT FIRST THE DOCUMENTS MOTION. ALRIGHT, GO AHEAD, READ IT IN THE REPORT. OKAY SO THE CONDITIONS ARE JUST SHE MOVES AND YOU'RE GOING TO READ. CAN WE JUST HEAR THE CONDITIONS AGAIN? BECAUSE THIS IS THIS FORMAT IS ALL NEW. WE'VE NEVER COME HERE HAD A FORMAL HEARING AND WE WERE NOT GIVEN A STAFF REPORT. SO WE JUST DIDN'T SEEM AS LIKE. WHAT STUFF REPORT SO CONDITIONS. WE READ THOSE, TOO, SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND THREE AND FOUR FIRST. BEFORE YOU GUYS HEAD DOWN HERE. YOUR PATH. OKAY WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE NORTH AND EAST AND WEST AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS. SO WHERE I THINK WE'RE STILL DISCUSSING RIGHT OR CONDITION. OKAY SO NUMBER THREE NUMBER THREE UNDER THE FOR ACTION PLAN. THEY RE LISTED ONE AND TWO AND EVERY THREE. WE SAID ANOTHER CONDITION WOULD BE UM, FOR PLAN TO INCREASE THE OPEN SPACE WITH CONSIDERATION TO THE WETLANDS ABUTTING THE NORTH SIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT. AND THE FOURTH CONDITION WOULD BE THAT THE IN LIEU WOULD BE LAND. PURCHASE WOULD BE A PURCHASE OF DEDICATE LAND WITHIN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE DEVELOPMENT. RIGHT AND LOWER THAT RESPONSIBILITY. WE HAVE FROM JUST ASKING FOR CLARIFICATION IS THAT THAT WAS YOUR YOUR OPTIONS. EITHER.
PURCHASE LAND OR YOU MAKE PINK. YEAH AND THAT FOLLOWS THE WHAT'S ESTABLISHED IN THE ZONING TEXAS ? WELL IT HAVE TO BE WITHIN THAT FOR IS WITHIN THE 1200 FT. FOR THE PLAYGROUND THING. IS THAT WHAT SHOULD WE BE MORE SPECIFIC OR NOT? IT CAN BE, AND I THINK I THINK STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND HER.
THIS CAME UP, MAYBE IN COUNCIL THAT IT WOULD BE WITHIN THE NEW ALBANY SCHOOL DISTRICT. OR, YOU KNOW, JUST WHATEVER IS AGREED UPON WHATEVER COUNCIL RECOMMENDS . THAT'S ACTUALLY A GREAT POINT THAT THE ZONING DOES REQUIRE THAT IF THERE IS LAND DEDICATED OUTSIDE OF THE SUBDIVISION THAT IT BE, UM WITHIN THE PLANE, LOCAL SCHOOL DISTRICTS, UH AND THERE'S ALSO WITHIN THE PARKLANDS OR THE FUTURE PARK METRO ZONE THAT'S NORTH OF GENERALLY NORTH OF WALNUT STREET. AND IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THE METRO PARKS IS NOT A NEW ALBANY CITY PARK. THAT'S CORRECT POLITICAL SUBDIVISION OF THE STATE OF OHIO. SO JUST FOR CLARIFICATION PURPOSES. SO CAN I GET THE MOST APPROVED. I MOVED TO APPROVE. WHAT ARE WE? WHAT ARE WE ACCEPT THE DOCUMENTS, DOCUMENTS MOTION TO ACCEPT THE DOCUMENTS SECOND. MR STROMBERG. YES MR NINI CHOPPER? YES.
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GOTTEN? YES. MS STILLMAN? YES. MISBAH YES. SIX VOTES IN FAVOR OF ADMITTING DOCUMENTS. RIGHT? NEXT MOTION. YEAH. SO. SO, UM, I NEED TO APPROVE IT. UM IT'S THE TEXT ON IT MOVED TO APPROVE THE BIRTHDAY, MAN. ALRIGHT NEXT MOTION WILL BE THE TEXTS THAT WERE JUST READ WITH THE ADDITIONAL AMENDMENTS TO CAN I THINK OF ONE JUSTIN ABOUT THE WHAT? A NUMBER FOR NUMBER FOUR.CAN WE RECOMMEND THAT? THE, UM IN LUA IS REAL THREE OPERATE REEVALUATED LIKE THE AMOUNT. I DON'T THINK WE INCLUDE ANYTHING ABOUT WHATEVER THEY CAN. CAN WE RECOMMEND THAT OR WE HAVE TO CITY COUNCIL. I KNOW CAN WE RECOMMEND TO COUNSEL COMMEND THAT THEY LOOK AT IT? WHAT DO YOU THINK THAT IRRELEVANT. SO OVERSIGHT COUNCIL RECOMMENDS SO CITY COUNCIL CITY COUNCIL WILL DECIDE WHAT THAT IS. BUT THERE'S LANGUAGE IN THE ZONING TEXT THAT ADDRESSES THAT ISSUE THAT I THINK EVERYBODY'S GOT TO ABIDE BY IN THAT SITUATION, SO I MEAN AGAIN, YOU CAN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OF THE ADVISORY BOARD, BUT ULTIMATELY EXCUSE ME . IT'S GONNA COME DOWN TO WHAT'S IN THE ZONING TEXT, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT IT WOULD BE A CURRENT MARKET VALUE. HMM. SEE.
ONLY A FEW OKAY? SECOND, PLEASE. SECOND. WHO'S THAT? SANTINI WAS MOVING. THANK YOU. STRIPPING IS THE SECOND. MR MANY, YES. MR STROMBERG? YES. MR COTTON? YES. MS STEELMAN? YES. MS PARK? YES.
MS SHOPPER? YES. I HAVE 60 VOTES IN FAVOR OF THE APPLICATION, WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE STAFF REPORT AND THE TUBE AND THE TWO ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS INCREASE THE OPEN SPACE WITH CONSIDERATION OF THE WETLAND ON THE NORTH OF THE DEVELOPMENT NUMBER FOUR REVIEW THE 42,000 FT AND LOU OR PURCHASE LAND WAS IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE DEVELOPMENT.
ESSENTIALLY WE'RE DONE. OK 79 O'CLOCK. THANK YOU SO MUCH TO HIM MOVED THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE JUST ONE QUICK THING FOR THE BOARD JUST WANTED TO DO A REMINDER OF THIS THURSDAY. SO WE'RE DOING OUR NEW ALBANY 101 SERIES. SO IF ANYBODY CAN MAKE THAT, UM, BECAUSE WE'D LOVE TO HAVE PARTS CHOSE ADVISORY BOARD MEMBERS THERE. IT'S REALLY JUST FOR RESIDENTS TO GET TO KNOW BOARD MEMBERS. WHAT YOU DO WANT TO ASK YOU QUESTIONS. SO IF YOU ARE AVAILABLE TO MAKE IT IF YOU DON'T MIND RSVP'D JUST SO WE CAN GET A HEADCOUNT WHO'S THERE? BUT AGAIN, THIS IS WE PLAN ON OPENING UP THE TAYLOR FARM HOUSE, SO JUST THE FIRST FLOOR AS YOU MIGHT HAVE HEARD IT WAS VANDALIZED, BUT WE THINK WE CAN OPEN UP THE FIRST WAR CELLS, SO IT'S SAFE FOR ENTRY. BUT AGAIN, THAT'S FROM 5 TO 7 PM THURSDAY, SO WE HOPE WE HOPE YOU CAN MAKE IT THERE. THANK YOU. AT THE AIRPORT. COUNTRY. BASICALLY. EXCUSE ME, SIR. THINGS SORRY. IF YOU DON'T MIND GOING TO THE MIX SENSES STILL PUBLIC MEETING. WE CAN HEAR YOU, MICROTEL. SORRY I DON'T I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THIS COMMITTEE AND ALL THE OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE WORKING SO HARD WITH SO MANY PROBLEMS TRYING TO HELP THEM SOLVE. PROBLEMS. FOR AN OBVIOUS PLACE THAT'S BEING SHOEHORNED INTO COUNTRY ENVIRONMENT AND FROM THE EAST OF HERE IS GOING TO BE ALL. UH, COMMERCIAL, COMMERCIAL OR INTEL AND OTHER COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS. IT'S OBVIOUSLY WRONG. DEVELOPMENT IN THE WRONG PLACE. IN A AND IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE ALL TRYING TO SOLVE HIS THEIR PROBLEM. AND OBVIOUSLY THEY BOUGHT THIS LAND AND THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH IT. AND SO THERE'S THEY'RE PUTTING.
NOW 44 HOUSING UNITS PER ACRE. EXCLUDING EXCLUDING SOME OF THE PARKLAND THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT, WHICH IS WHAT TWO ACRES AND WHATEVER IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT'S THE WRONG THE WRONG DEVELOPMENT FOR THE WRONG PLACE WHERE EVERYTHING ELSE IS OUT IN THE COUNTRY. THEY SHOULD PUT
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THIS DOWNTOWN NEW ALBANY. NOT NOT IN, UH IN THE COUNTRY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU[VII. Other business]
APPRECIATE IT, BUT OBVIOUSLY I HAVE ONE OTHER QUICK. UM OTHER BUSINESS. I'M WONDERING FROM OUR MARCH MEETING ON PAGE SEVEN. IT MENTIONS GETTING A MEMO FROM THE LAWYER. ABOUT SOME RULES OR SOMETHING. THAT WAS AN EMAIL. THAT WAS ANY. I THINK YOU SENT AN EMAIL. I BELIEVE, AND I APOLOGIZE. I DIDN'T LOOK THROUGH YOU MIND SENDING THAT OUT AGAIN , SO IT GOT PAST MY RADAR? NO, I SAW IT. AND I CAN'T SAY THAT. I READ THROUGH IT. I THINK I THINK WE DID SEND OUT THEIR ATTACHMENT OR MAYBE JUST EMAIL AND THEN OF FASHION, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY SEND THAT OUT. I STARTED TO AND LIKE, OH, THIS IS GONNA TAKE MORE TIME WE'VE BEEN HAPPY TO AND THEN I NEVER WENT BACK TO IT. SO I THINK JUST SEEM TO BE SURE WE'RE FOLLOWING THE RULES. OKAY I SAW IT GO. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IT RIGHT? WE STILL NEED A DID YEAH. YOU NEED A MOTION WHAT ? SHE WAS SLEEP SO MUCH. SURE THOUGHT SHE DID. DID YOU DO IT? HE HAS TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. SORRY FOR THE CONFUSION . I THINK I INTERRUPTED YOU ALL WHILE YOU WERE MAKING THAT MOTION. BUT IF WE COULD JUST FOR THE RECORD, I HAVE ONE MORE MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING MOTION PICTURE. YEAH I'LL SECOND THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR KEEPING US ON TRACK WAS