Jun 18, 2024 City Council

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WHENEVER YOU'RE READY. GENTLEMEN, WELCOME TO THE NEW ALBANY CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR TUESDAY, JUNE 18TH, MAYOR SPAULDING, GREEN LIGHT. THERE WE GO. FROM THE TOP. SO RUSTY.

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THE ROLL, PLEASE. YES. AND IF COUNCIL WILL TURN ON THEIR MICROPHONES, MAYOR SPALDING, HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. BRISK HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. DEREK HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. FELIZ HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. KISS HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. SHULL HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER. WILTROUT HERE. I

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[5. ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO THE AGENDA]

YES COUNCILMEMBER. SHELL. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. WILTROUT. YES COUNCIL MEMBER. KIST. YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER. FEATHERS. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. DEREK YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. BRISK. YES.

SEVEN. YES. VOTES TO AMEND THE AGENDA TO ADD THE EXECUTIVE SESSION. ALL RIGHT, UNDER OUR

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WE WANTED TO COME AND GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND FINANCES AND WHERE WE ARE WITH PLANNING, SO WE'LL BEGIN TONIGHT, SHARING WITH YOU ABOUT OUR PARTNERSHIP, TRUSTEE FERGUSON WILL WILL THEN COME UP AND SHARE ABOUT OUR FINANCES. AND TRUSTEE BECKET HILL WILL SHARE WITH YOU ABOUT OUR GROWTH AND THE PROJECTIONS AND THE PLANNING THAT WE'RE SEEING RELATED TO THAT, SO AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR HAVING US IN THIS EVENING. SO WITH EVERYTHING THAT WE DO, OUR MISSION AND VISION DRIVES OUR WORK AND SO WE JUST WE WANT TO REMIND YOU OF THE NEW MISSION. THE NEW MISSION STATEMENT THAT WAS CREATED WITH OUR COMMUNITY WHEN WE DID OUR NEW STRATEGIC PLAN. AND THAT IS TOGETHER WE SAVE LIVES THROUGH EDUCATION, ENGAGEMENT AND EMERGENCY SERVICES. AND WE FOCUS ON THAT WORD TOGETHER BECAUSE WE ARE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH YOU AND WITH ALL OF OUR OTHER STAKEHOLDERS IN THE COMMUNITY TO DO THIS REALLY IMPORTANT, LIFE SAVING WORK. AND ULTIMATELY, OUR VISION IS A COMMUNITY THAT IS INFORMED, CONNECTED AND SAFE. SO RELATED TO OUR PARTNERSHIP, THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK THAT WE DO TOGETHER, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WORK TOGETHER VERY COLLABORATIVELY AND JOSH AND YOUR TEAM ARE ALWAYS DOING VIDEOS WITH US. AND THANK YOU FOR THAT. FOR ALL OF THE GENERAL SUPPORT AND MR. DIRK, FOR ALL THE TIMES THAT YOU COME AND SIT AT OUR TOWNSHIP MEETINGS. THANK YOU FOR THAT. WE DO HAVE A REQUEST THIS EVENING, MR. CITY MANAGER, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE TIPS AND THANK YOU FOR ALL THE ANALYSIS THAT YOUR TEAM HAS DONE. I KNOW IT HAS BEEN COMPLICATED TO LOOK AT THOSE COMMERCIAL TIPS, BUT WE'D LIKE TO FORMALLY ASK FOR THE LEGISLATION TO AWARD THOSE TO THE TOWNSHIP TONIGHT. THAT FINAL NUMBER OF WHAT THAT TIP WOULD BE, THAT ONE TIME PAYMENT. AND THEN UNDERSTANDING WITH THAT CARRY FORWARD CHANGE WOULD BE REALLY WILL IMPACT OUR PLANNING. AS WE LOOK AT A POTENTIAL LEVY, LOOK AT ALL THE REVENUE SOURCES

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AND SO THE FIRST QUESTION THEN HOW IS THAT MADE UP OF PREDOMINANTLY IT'S PROPERTY TAX? OKAY THE SECOND AREA IS TIFS AND THAT IS THE TIPS FROM NEW ALBANY, WHICH IS MOSTLY THE RESIDENTIAL TIFS. THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A BLACKLICK TIFF. WE'RE GETTING SOME DOLLARS THERE. SO IT'S ABOUT $122,000 ON THAT. SO THAT'S THE TIP DOLLARS THAT WE ARE GETTING. AND THEN WE HAVE SOME EMS FEES THAT WE HAVE FOR PREDOMINANTLY NON RESIDENTS. SO LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THOSE RECEIPTS. SO WE HAD OUR LAST LEVY IN 2015 WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY NINE YEARS AGO. SO I THINK WE'VE ESTABLISHED PRETTY GOOD STEWARDS OF OUR FUNDS OVER THAT PERIOD OF TIME. AND WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THAT, WE HAVE A SITUATION NOW WHERE A CARRY OVER BALANCE IS BECOMING, I WOULD SAY, REALLY KIND OF CRITICAL FOR US. WE CAN'T EXTEND THIS LEVY ANYMORE. AND WE'LL GET INTO SOME OF THE DISBURSEMENTS AND WHAT'S GOING ON MOST RECENTLY HERE. SO WE HAVE AN ADDITIONAL REVENUE NEED STARTING IN 2026. AND SO WE'VE BEEN ABSOLUTELY TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE THINKING THROUGH ALL THE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS AND HOW WE CAN FUND THE TOWNSHIP. THE BIG THING WE WANT TO CALL TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT CARRIE KIND OF MENTIONED ON A LITTLE BIT, IS THE BURDEN THAT'S CARRIED BY THE HOMEOWNERS. AND WE'LL GET INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT LATER. BUT REALLY, ESSENTIALLY WHAT YOU HAVE HERE IS THE PROPERTY TAX IS FUNDED FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, BUT A LOT OF THE TAX ABATEMENTS, AS WELL AS THE TIFS ARE FOR COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, WHICH IS GREAT. WE'VE DONE A PHENOMENAL JOB. AND SO AS WE THINK ABOUT WHAT WE NEED IN TERMS OF RECEIPTS AND REVENUES TO GROW FOR, FOR AND FUND OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, WE'VE BEEN MEETING WITH DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS AS WE SHOULD, BECAUSE THE SCHOOL IS TALKING ABOUT A LEVY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A LEVY. WE'RE TRYING TO SIZE THAT AND FIGURE OUT WHAT'S THE RIGHT SIZE. SO THE CHALLENGE IS, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S WE'VE BEEN TALKING TO IS SAYING, HEY, HOW CAN WE WORK TOGETHER, WHICH WE SHOULD BE WORKING TOGETHER, RIGHT? TO LESSEN THE TAX BURDEN FOR OUR RESIDENTS? WELL THE BIGGEST THING THAT WE'RE GOING TO COME TO YOU AND CARRIE KIND OF TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IS WE NEED YOUR HELP. WE NEED YOUR HELP WITH THE TIFFS. AND TO REALLY RETHINK HOW WE'RE DOING. TAX ABATEMENTS RELATIVE TO COMMERCIAL. AND THE BIG THING THERE IS THE RESIDENTS ARE THE PRIMARY PAYER OF FIRE SERVICE. AND IF WE REALLY WANT TO BE SMART ABOUT THIS LEVY THAT WE GOT COMING UP, WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT WHO'S GOING TO PAY FOR THAT. AND SO THAT WE DON'T WANT THE RESIDENTS TO HAVE TO TAKE ON THAT STRESSFUL BURDEN WITH ALL THE FIRE AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS ARE GOING ON. SO WE'LL GET INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT LATER OR ANSWERING QUESTIONS YOU HAVE SO THIS IS THE PROPERTY TAX DISTRIBUTIONS PER THE FRANKLIN COUNTY AUDITOR. AND ESSENTIALLY WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE HERE IS TO PROVIDE FIRE SERVICE THROUGHOUT THE NEW ALBANY INCORPORATED NON-CORPORATE AREA. IT'S ABOUT 8% OF THE PIE HERE, 10% FOR THE TOWNSHIP, 8% FOR FIRE SERVICE. IT'S INTERESTING WHEN YOU DIMENSIONALIZE THAT HOW DOES THAT COMPARE TO OTHER SERVICES? I THINK IT'S A PRETTY GOOD VALUE 8% WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT OUR PARK DISTRICT AND SOME OF THE OTHER AREAS. SO SCHOOLS IS THE LARGEST PART OF THE PROPERTY TAX BASE, NO QUESTION ABOUT IT, DISBURSEMENTS. SO THIS IS, AN AREA WE WANT TO JUST KIND

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AND I THINK NOW WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO A LITTLE BIT OF THE DEMAND. AND MY COLLEAGUE JILL HILL WILL COME FILL YOU IN. THANKS GOOD EVENING. IT'S GOOD TO BE HERE THIS EVENING. SO AS WE TALK ABOUT NUMBERS, I'M GOING TO SHARE A FEW MORE NUMBERS WITH YOU. AND EVERY MONTH WE TALK ABOUT OUR STRATEGIC PLAN AND THAT IS REALLY BASED UPON THE NEEDS OF THE PLAIN TOWNSHIP FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE GROWTH. HOW DO WE PREPARE FOR GROWTH AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE LOOK AT WHERE WE ARE IN THE DEMAND. SO IF WE LOOK BACK AT OUR FIRE RUNS, IN 2013, WE HAD 695. FAST FORWARD TO 2023, 921, 226. OUR EMS RUNS MAJORITY OF THE RUNS WE TAKE. OUR EMS 2013 IS 1301, 2023 IS 1955. IT'S AN INCREASE OVER TEN YEARS. 694 TO DATE THROUGH MAY OF 2024, PLAIN TOWNSHIP HAS HAD 1269 RUNS. THIS YEAR, AND THAT'S JUST THROUGH MAY. ALSO, IT'S IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT OUR BUILDING INSPECTIONS. A LOT OF BUILDING A LOT OF GROWTH. 2022. WE HAD 871.

AND IN 2023, 870. SO AS WE CAN SEE, THE DEMAND FOR OUR BUILDING INSPECTIONS IS GROWING. PLANNED REVIEW. SMALL INCREASE FROM 37 TO 44. AND OUR NEXT SLIDE IS CAN YOU GO BACK A SLIDE THERE? JILL.

SORRY, I JUST THE FIRE RUNS ARE 13 TO 23. WHY AREN'T THE INSPECTIONS AND PLAN REVIEW THE SAME DURATION? OH THE TEN YEAR GAP. YEAH. IT'S JUST THAT WAS HOW THE COLLECTION OF THE DATA WAS DRAWN, I THINK THROUGH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, EVERY. YEAH. WE JUST HAD A ONE YEAR LOOK BACK ON THAT ONE. AND THEN JUST A QUICK QUESTION. YEAH. YOUR FIRE RUNS AND EMS RUNS THAT OBVIOUSLY GOES TO NEW ALBANY CITY, WE ALSO HAVE COLUMBUS IN THERE. WHAT OTHER JURISDICTIONS MUTUAL. SO MUTUAL AID MIGHT BE INTO LICKING COUNTY INTO CITY PARTS OF COLUMBUS. OKAY, THAT'S WHERE THOSE MUTUAL RUNS WILL GO TO. DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT THE PERCENTAGE IS FOR NEW ALBANY ON THOSE RUNS? YOU KNOW, GENERAL, SO THE GOOD NEWS TODAY IS CHIEF CONNOR'S WITH US TODAY.

SO I'M GOING TO LOOK RIGHT OVER MY LEFT SHOULDER. 55, YEAH. IF YOU WOULD COME ON UP FOR THE RECORD AND FOR PEOPLE TRYING TO HEAR THE ANSWER, PART OF MY WE'RE GOING TO GET YOU UP EVENTUALLY WITH ME TODAY. YES. OR OUR MUTUAL AID RUNS ARE IN THE 55% RANGE, OR 45% RANGE, 55% OF OUR OWN RUNS. SO WE'RE SEEING A CHANGE RIGHT NOW OF THAT. WE'RE WATCHING WE'RE MEASURING THAT EACH AND EVERY MONTH, WE ARE DOING LESS MUTUAL AID TO COLUMBUS, MORE OF OUR OWN RUNS.

SO THE NUMBERS ARE SWITCHING. BUT RIGHT AROUND THE 50% RANGE RIGHT NOW, BETWEEN OUR OWN CALLS FOR SERVICE IN PLAIN TOWNSHIP AND CITY OF NEW ALBANY AND FRANKLIN COUNTY AND THEN MUTUAL AID, WE DO HAVE MUTUAL AID PACTS WITH WITH JEFFERSON TOWNSHIP, MIFFLIN TOWNSHIP, GAHANNA, CITY OF COLUMBUS, HARLEM TOWNSHIP, MONROE TOWNSHIP AND WEST LICKING JOINT FIRE DISTRICT. SO THOSE ARE OUR PARTNERS THAT WE RUN WITH EVERY DAY, SOME INTO THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY AND LICKING COUNTY AND MOST OF OUR RUNS HERE IN THE CITY CENTER. AND IN THIS AREA. OKAY, WHAT ABOUT THE RECIPROCAL? HOW MANY, HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO CALL ON THOSE TOWNSHIPS AND OTHER MUNICIPALITIES FOR MUTUAL AID TO COME? SO OUR EMS RUNS ARE GENERALLY COVERED BY OUR OWN EQUIPMENT, ANYTHING THAT GOES BEYOND THAT. SO AN AUTO ACCIDENT REQUIRING EXTRACTION, A FIRE

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MOST FIRE DEPARTMENTS OR FIRE STATIONS DON'T HAVE THAT ENTIRE COMPLEMENT. SO WE HELP EACH OTHER ACROSS OUR BORDERS. WE RUN SEAMLESSLY MUTUAL AID WITH OUR PARTNERS AROUND US, AROUND THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY, THEY CALL FOR US, WE CALL FOR THEM. SO SOMETIMES IT'S NOT ONE FOR ONE, JUST DEPENDING ON WHO WE'RE RUNNING WITH THAT DAY. SOME DEPARTMENTS THAT WE RUN WITH ARE BUSIER THAN WE ARE. THE CITY OF GAHANNA IS BUSIER THAN THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY AND PLAIN TOWNSHIP. NONETHELESS, THEY THEY OFFER THEIR RESOURCES TO US WHEN WE NEED THEM TO GET THE COMPLEMENT OF FIREFIGHTERS TO RESPOND TO THOSE CALLS. THAT'S A REQUIRED, RECOMMENDATION BY THE NATIONAL FIRE PROTECTION ASSOCIATION. DO YOU THINK IT'S A MORE OF A DRAIN FOR YOUR DEPARTMENT THAT WE'RE PROVIDING A HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF MUTUAL AID TO THOSE MUNICIPALITIES, ESPECIALLY THE FIRST HALF OF THAT? DO YOU THINK IT'S A DRAIN TO YOUR DEPARTMENT THAT WE'RE PROVIDING MORE MUTUAL AID TO THESE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AND NOT I THINK THAT IT'S A NECESSARY EVIL RIGHT NOW JUST BECAUSE THE CITY OF COLUMBUS SPECIFICALLY HAS ANNEXED AREA INTO GEOGRAPHICALLY THE CLOSEST AREA FOR US TO RESPOND AND DOESN'T HAVE A FIRE STATION IN THAT AREA. SO WE'RE IN THE BUSINESS OF SAVING LIVES AND GETTING THERE. AND WE HAVE A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY OF COLUMBUS TO CONTINUE TO RESPOND TO THOSE AREAS. THOSE AREAS OF COLUMBUS, THOSE RESIDENTS STILL THINK THAT WE ARE THEIR FIRE DEPARTMENT. WHEN TECHNICALLY THE CITY OF COLUMBUS IS THEIR FIRE DEPARTMENT. LITTLE TURTLE STATION 29 IS THE CLOSEST COLUMBUS FIRE STATION TO ANY OF THOSE AREAS. CLEAR UP OFF NEW ALBANY ROAD WEST AND ALL THOSE APARTMENT BUILDINGS. THEY CAN'T GET THERE AS FAST AS WE CAN. SO IN A CARDIAC ARREST EVENT, THE REPORT OF A FIRE UNCONSCIOUS, ANY ANYTHING THAT YOU MIGHT COME ALONG TO, THEY IMMEDIATELY CALL US TO HELP RESPOND TO, TO REDUCE THOSE RESPONSE TIMES IN SAVING LIVES, BECAUSE WE'RE IN A BUSINESS OF MINUTES IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, IN FIRES AND IN MEDICAL EMERGENCIES, MINUTES MATTERS. SO THAT'S WHY IT'S REALLY IMPERATIVE THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS DO WORK TOGETHER AND COLLABORATE ON THOSE RESPONSES. NOW, THE CITY OF COLUMBUS IS THINKING ABOUT BUILDING A FIRE STATION. THEY THINK THEY JUST PASSED THIS. CORRECT. THEY'RE GOING TO BE BUILDING FIRE STATION AT HARLEM AND CENTRAL COLLEGE STATION 36. SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT TWO AND A HALF YEARS, MAYBE THREE YEARS BEFORE YOU SEE FIRE TRUCKS RUNNING AT THAT LOCATION. SO IN THAT TIME FRAME, WE'LL BE ASSISTING THE CITY OF COLUMBUS IN THAT AREA. QUESTION ABOUT THE MUTUAL AID, TWO QUESTIONS ACTUALLY. HOW LONG HAS THE MUTUAL AID AGREEMENT BEEN IN PLACE, AND HAS IT CHANGED OVER THE YEARS FOR ITS SCOPE? IT DOES NOT CHANGE. IT'S BEEN IN PLACE FOR AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN DOING THIS 31 YEARS, ALL OVER FROM LICKING COUNTY INTO FRANKLIN COUNTY. THEY'VE EXISTED AT LEAST THAT LONG, IF NOT LONGER THAN THAT. THE LAST AGREEMENT I SAW STILL HAD CHIEF KUBLER'S SIGNATURE ON IT. OKAY, WITH ALL THE FRANKLIN COUNTY FIRE CHIEFS HAD AGREED TO THE MUTUAL AID AND THAT THAT AGREEMENT STILL STANDS TODAY WITH THOSE, ENTITIES. THAT'S GREAT. AND YOU SAID THAT THE RECENT TREND WAS UPWARD TOWARDS THAT RUNS BEING MORE ON NEW ALBANY TERRITORY, SORRY IF THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT LINGO, DO YOU HAVE A UNDERSTAND? JUST AS WE LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS ON THE TEN YEAR GAP, HOW HOW THAT NUMBER WOULD TREND, IF YOU LOOKED AT FOR A TEN YEAR LOOK BACK, IS IT A SUBSTANTIAL, INCREASE? HAS THE HAS IT CHANGED OVER THE YEARS? THE FIRST PART OF YOUR QUESTION WAS ABOUT THE INSPECTIONS OR THE RUNS. THE RUNS. WELL, PRIOR RUNS, I GUESS ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE MUTUALLY AID OR MUTUAL AID. SO MOVING FORWARD WITH THE WAY WE PROVIDE SERVICE, WE'RE EXPECTING SIGNIFICANT GROWTH IN THE NEW ALBANY PLAIN TOWNSHIP AREA. OR WE CAN ANTICIPATE RUNS WILL INCREASE WITH POPULATION INCREASE. THAT'S HOWEVER, MUTUAL AID. YEAH. IF WE ARE ABLE TO GROW WITH OUR COMMUNITY AND ADD MORE PERSONNEL, MORE RESPONSE VEHICLES, OUR REQUIREMENT ON MUTUAL AID TO COME IN TO HELP US WILL REDUCE, AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO HANDLE MORE OF OUR RUNS ON OUR OWN WITH THE NUMBERS THAT WE CAN PROVIDE ON THE STREET. I GUESS MAYBE. CAN YOU EXPLAIN THIS? YEAH. THANK YOU. MAYBE CAN WE? I WANTED TO ASK SOMETHING ABOUT THE SLIDE BEFORE THAT REAL QUICK, IF I MAY, BEFORE WE MOVE ON. I WAS HOPING THAT. SO. I'M SORRY, BUT I'VE BEEN KIND OF POLITELY WAITING ON THE BUILDING EXPENSE INSPECTIONS AND PLAN REVIEW. IS THAT COMMERCIAL RESIDENTIAL? BOTH. DO YOU HAVE A BREAKDOWN OF WHAT'S BETWEEN THE TWO RESIDENTIAL INSPECTIONS? THEY'RE ALL COMMERCIAL. THAT'S ALL COMMERCIAL WORK. OKAY. YEAH THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU. IT SHOULD BE NOTED REAL QUICKLY. AND CARRIE REMINDED ME OF THIS. WE DO NOT. WE HAVE TWO PARAMEDIC UNITS THAT WE STAFF EACH DAY. OUR PRIMARY MEDIC UNIT WILL RESPOND TO THE FIRST CALL, WHETHER THAT'S MUTUAL AID OR WITHIN OUR OWN RUN JURISDICTION.

OUR SECOND MEDIC UNIT DOES NOT RESPOND MUTUAL AID. IT IS JUST HELD FOR THE RESIDENTS OF NEW ALBANY AND PLAIN TOWNSHIP IN FRANKLIN COUNTY. SO WE WON'T RESPOND THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THE RESIDENTS HERE ARE COVERED. THE ONES THAT WE VOW TO PROTECT HAVE A UNIT READY TO GO.

WE CROSS STAFFED THAT WITH OUR LADDER TRUCK, SO THE LADDER COMPANY WILL JUMP TO THE SECOND MEDIC AND RESPOND TO THAT. THAT SECOND CALL, JUST JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE, WE DO KEEP A MEDIC UNIT IN OUR AREA READY TO RESPOND TO OUR OWN RESIDENTS. AND JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION BEFORE WE KICK IT

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SO THESE BIG PROJECTS, WE ONLY HAVE TWO PEOPLE ON OUR PREVENTION STAFF. THEY'RE VERY, VERY BUSY DURING THE DAY. IT'S DIFFICULT TO RECOVER. ONE THING TO NOTE THAT BEN WHISPERED IN MY EAR AND I FAILED TO MENTION WAS THAT, WE SOFT BILL FOR EMS SO THAT REVENUE THAT WE GET FROM EMS TRANSPORTS, IT BASICALLY DOESN'T REQUIRE THAT A PERSON PAY THE RESIDUAL AMOUNT THAT INSURANCE DOESN'T PAY. SO WE JUST COLLECT WHAT THE INSURANCE PAYS AND THEN THE REST IS WRITTEN OFF. SO THAT'S WHAT WE CALL SOFT BILLING. SO OUR RESIDENTS ARE NOT BUILD THEIR INSURANCE PAID. THEY DON'T SEE A BILL FOR EMS TRANSPORT. HOWEVER WE DO SEE SOME REVENUE FROM THEIR INSURANCE COMPANIES. AND IS THAT FOR MUTUAL AID CALLS AND CALLS IN NEW ALBANY? YES, WE ARE SOFT. THAT'S A THAT'S A CHOICE NOT TO GO THROUGH COLLECTION PROCESS TO TRY TO RECOVER THOSE.

THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. AND THEN JUST TO MARLENE, I THINK I HEARD YOUR QUESTION. YEAH. FRAME IT A LITTLE DIFFERENT. THANK YOU, TRUSTEE FERGUSON, APPROPRIATELY POINTED OUT THAT THE, THE FINANCIAL BURDEN OF FUNDING THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY IS PREDOMINANTLY BORNE BY THE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY. I THINK THE QUESTION THAT COUNCILWOMAN BRISK WAS ASKING IS THE SERVICES THAT ARE PROVIDED, ARE THEY UTILIZED PREDOMINANTLY BY THE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY? SO THOSE PAYING FOR IT ARE THE ONES RECEIVING AND THE PLANS. AND THAT OBVIOUSLY IS A DIFFERENT TOPIC. AND YOU DID SAY THAT YOU DO GET REIMBURSED. YOU DO CHARGE FOR SOME OF THAT. I WAS ASKING ABOUT EMS AND FIRE AT ALL INTO ONE CATEGORY THAT THAT ALL OF THE COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES, I GUESS IF YOU DID GROUP IT ALL, THEY WOULD USE EMS AND FIRE LESS THAN THE RESIDENTIAL. WELL, HOWEVER, THERE ARE SOME BUSINESSES THAT THAT TEND TO HAVE CHEMICALS STORED THERE.

WE'VE HAD TWO HAZMAT SITUATIONS HERE RECENTLY THAT TOOK A LOT OF RESOURCES, AND THEN WHEN THEY BUILD A COMMERCIAL BUILDING, WE GENERALLY HAVE RESPONSES, MORE RESPONSES IN THE BEGINNING WHILE

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AS FAR AS THAT'S CONCERNED, THEIR FIRE CHIEFS ARE ASKING THEM NOW. OKAY, EVERYBODY, THAT IS IN MY POSITION RIGHT NOW IS LOOKING FOR HOW TO HOW CAN WE REDUCE THE TAX BURDEN ON THE COMMUNITY, AND BE ABLE TO STILL GROW? AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE QUESTION, TO BRING BUSINESSES INTO A BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY LIKE THIS. AND STILL BE ABLE TO FUND YOUR, YOUR PUBLIC SAFETY INFRASTRUCTURE WITH THIS, WITH THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY AND GROWING LIKE IT IS, I HAVE TO FORECAST FIVE, TEN YEARS OUT OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE MONEY TO DO THAT AND RIGHT NOW, THE REVENUE IS NOT KEEPING UP WITH THE EXPENSES . SO THIS IS WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY TO TRY TO BRIDGE THE GAP TO WHAT WE NEED TO OPERATE AND GROW, WE CANNOT STAY STAGNANT RIGHT NOW AT THE PLAIN TOWNSHIP FIRE DEPARTMENT. WE ARE COVERING WHAT WE CAN RIGHT NOW, BUT AS THE CITY GROWS AND WE CAN SEE A FIVE YEAR, TEN YEAR PLAN, WE HAVE TO HAVE A PLAN TO GROW. AND WE ALL KNOW THAT, THAT WE NEED MONEY TO DO THAT. SO WHAT ARE THOSE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO? WE TALKED ABOUT THE ABATEMENTS, TALK ABOUT THE TIPS AND SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS. CREATING A FOUNDATION FOR DONATIONS, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. WE'RE ALL DOING THOSE THINGS TO TRY TO BRIDGE THE GAP SO WE DON'T HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, THE TAX BURDEN ON THE COMMUNITY IS LESSENED THAT WAY.

ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAD WAS, WELL, I LOST MY PREVIOUS QUESTION. NOW I'M ON TO THIS COMMERCIAL, INSPECTION, COST HOW IS THE COST FOR COMMERCIAL INSPECTIONS, SET. AND HAS IT CHANGED OVER THE YEARS TO RECOVER THE COST? SO THE FEE SCHEDULE IS BASICALLY A RECOVERY OF WHAT THE GENERAL REGION USES TO DO INSPECTIONS. SO WE COLLABORATED, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, WITH MONROE TOWNSHIP AND WEST LICKING JOINT FIRE DISTRICT WITH THEIR PREVENTION AND INSPECTORS TO BRING OUR FEE SCHEDULE EXACTLY TO THEIRS, HOW THAT FEE SCHEDULE CAME ABOUT IS JUST BASICALLY THE REGION AND WHAT OTHER THEY ALL HAD COMMUNICATE AND WHAT THEY'RE CHARGING PEOPLE. WE CAN CHARGE THEM MORE. WE CAN DO THAT, WE WOULD LIKE TO BRING ON MONROE AND WEST LICKING AS WELL. SO THE BUILDINGS RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER, THEY COVER ONE, WE COVER THE OTHER. THAT THEY'RE GETTING A FAIR AND EQUAL, FEE SCHEDULE, BUT THERE IS NO THERE'S NO SPECIFIC RULE OR LAW THAT REQUIRES WE CHARGE ONE THING OR ANOTHER. SO. AND ARE ANY OTHER OR ANY OF THE OTHER SURROUNDING TOWNSHIPS SUFFERING FROM A DEFICIT AT THIS TIME? NO. I THINK MOST FIRE DEPARTMENTS RIGHT NOW ARE WORRIED BECAUSE MANY OF YOU HAVE SEEN THROUGH THE STATE HOUSE RIGHT NOW, I THINK THERE'S AT LEAST TEN BILLS THAT ARE TALKING ABOUT HOW THEY COLLECT PROPERTY TAX. AND AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE PIE CHART THAT WE THAT WE HAD UP THERE, THAT'S EVERYTHING FOR US. SO IF THEY REDUCE THE ABILITY TO COLLECT PROPERTY TAX, WE WILL DEFINITELY HAVE A DEFICIT. SO WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT WHAT WHAT'S GOING THROUGH THE STATE HOUSE RIGHT NOW. AND SOME OF THE CHANGES TO HOW WE COLLECT PROPERTY TAX. AND WE'RE KEEPING A CLOSE EYE ON THAT QUESTION. AND JUST ONE MORE QUESTION ON THE NUMBERS. TRUSTEE FERGUSON SAID 8.7 MILLION IS THE REVENUE IS THAT PROJECTED FOR THIS YEAR, OR WAS THAT IN 23?'ST THAT, THEN IF THAT'S 8.7 MILLION AND YOU YOU GO, ACTUALLY YOU CAN YEAH GO UP ABOUT FOUR SLIDES TO YOUR EXPENSES. RIGHT. KEEP ONE MORE. IT WAS LIKE 9.9.8, 9.8. IF YOU ADD THOSE TWO NUMBERS UP THERE IT'S 10.3. SO THAT WAS JUST THAT LAST YEAR 23. WHAT ARE YOU WHAT ARE YOU PROJECTING IF YOU CAN FOR 24 FOR REVENUE AND EXPENSES? MY QUESTION NINE POINT, IF YOU WILL COME TO THE MICROPHONE SO WE CAN GET YOU ON THE RECORD HERE. I'LL ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. ALSO GIVE YOU PERSPECTIVE ON MUTUAL AID.

TRUSTEE FERGUSON, IF YOU'LL GET THE MICROPHONE, YOU'RE WELCOME TO JUST GRAB IT OUT. USUALLY I HAVE A PRETTY LOUD VOICE, SO YOU'D BE SURPRISED ON THAT ONE. IF YOU TURN AWAY FROM IT, WE CAN

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DIRK KNOWS HOW, I HAVE TO DO THIS. SO YOU GUYS DO. I HAVE MY OWN. OKAY, SO, OUR TOTAL EXPENDITURES FOR THE. ITS APPROXIMATE ONLY 10.9 IS THE INCOME WE'RE LOOKING AT OR.

EXCUSE ME, THIS IS A THIS IS WITH A WRONG SPREADSHEET. IT'S APPROXIMATELY 9.9, RIGHT IN THAT AREA. 9.9. THAT'S FOR 24. YEAH. FOR INCOME. YEAH. WELL THAT'S REVENUE. OUR CARRYOVER IS SIGNIFICANTLY STARTING TO ERODE BECAUSE OF OUR EXPENDITURES. AND ONE THING ABOUT MUTUAL AID I WANT TO ANSWER TOO IS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT I'VE BEEN ASKING A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT IT TOO. BUT THERE ARE CERTAIN BENEFITS TO SO WE HAVE ONE LADDER TRUCK. AND THAT LADDER TRUCK GOES DOWN. IT NEEDS TO BE REPAIRED AND REPAIRS AREN'T DONE IN 24 HOURS. THEY CAN TAKE WEEKS. SO WHEN WHAT DO YOU DO? YOU HAVE TO BORROW A LADDER TRUCK. AND SO COLUMBUS IS ONE OF OUR PARTNERS. AND SO THEY DO LEND US EQUIPMENT FOR THAT. SO THERE ARE SOME BENEFITS. YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY COLUMBUS IS BUILDING A FIRE STATION OVER OFF OF HARLAN. THAT SHOULD TAKE SOME OF THE PRESSURE OFF OF THE MUTUAL AID RUNS. BUT AS THE OTHER TRUSTEES POINTED OUT, THE GROWTH IS PRODIGIOUS. SO IN TERMS OF RUNS, YOU'RE KIND OF ASKING ABOUT HOW MANY TYPES OF RUNS WE MAKE, WE HAVE THE STATS TO GIVE YOU ON THAT, BUT I'LL TELL YOU THE COMMERCIAL WE GO TO ABERCROMBIE, YOU HAVE FIRE ALARMS, YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE HEART ATTACKS. YOU HAVE ALL TYPES OF FIRST AID TYPES OF RUNS. WE DO IT AT AEP. ALL THESE COMPANIES, ALL THESE CIVIC EVENTS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. THERE'S CONSTANT, NURSING HOMES. THAT'S REALLY A BIG DRIVER OF A LOT OF OUR PARAMEDIC RUNS AS WELL TOO. SO WE CAN SHARE THAT TYPE OF SEGMENTED DATA. BUT THERE'S A THERE'S A LOT OF RUNS, BUT RESIDENTIAL IS THE PRIMARY NO QUESTION. I THINK THAT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL FOR US TO BE ABLE TO SEE IN TERMS OF THE EMS AND THE FIRE, LIKE WHERE THOSE HOW THAT BREAKS DOWN IN TERMS OF THOSE EXPENSES, IF YOU DO HAVE IT. YEAH, YEAH. DID YOU HAVE THE EXPENDITURES PREDICTION LIKE WHAT YOU THINK IN THIS YEAR THE EXPENDITURES MIGHT BE FOR 24.

YOU SAID 9.9 ON REVENUE. YEAH. JUST I MEAN THEY'RE THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH IN LINE WITH THAT.

THE BIG ISSUE IS THAT I MEAN WE'RE TRYING TO DEFER A LOT OF THE EQUIPMENT PURCHASES. WE HAVE A FIRE TRUCK THAT'S ON ORDER. IT'LL BE HERE NEXT YEAR. WE HAVE, LOTS OF RENOVATIONS STILL THAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO IN THE FIREHOUSE. WE HAVE THE SAME BATHROOMS FOR 26 YEARS. SO YOU CAN IMAGINE WHAT THAT'S LIKE. IF YOU HAVE A HOME WITH THE SAME BATHROOMS, YOU HAVE FIREMEN USING IT EVERY DAY, SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE CHALLENGES. AND, I CAN ASSURE YOU, YOU KNOW, WE TALK PRETTY HARD ABOUT OUR FINANCES AND OUR NUMBERS, AND I'M JUST AMAZED AT THE COST OF THINGS. SO IT IS A CHALLENGE. I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE THE SAME THINGS, TOO, AND I'VE BEEN VERY CRITICAL TO TRY TO MANAGE THAT. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO FOR A LEVY. AND, YOU KNOW, THE SCHOOLS AND ALL OF US WERE WORKING TOGETHER. SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, TO KIND OF EDUCATE AND ASK THESE TYPES OF QUESTIONS AND HAVE REALLY GOOD CONVERSATIONS ON WHAT WE SHOULD DO OUT OF CURIOSITY, IF YOU ORDER A FIRE TRUCK NOW AND THERE'S A FOUR YEAR LEAD TIME, I DON'T KNOW, IN THE INDUSTRY, WHEN DO YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR IT, YOU KNOW, IT DEPENDS ON THE CONTRACT, HOW YOU HOW YOU STRUCTURE IT. BUT USUALLY YOU DON'T PAY FOR IT UNTIL YOU GET IT. SO, THEN, I MEAN, I TALKED TO TRAVIS THE OTHER DAY, AND IT'S JUST AMAZING. IT'S ALL THE MANUFACTURERS. SO YOU YOU CAN ORDER ONE. THERE MIGHT BE SOME TYPE OF DEPOSIT, YOU KNOW, DOWN IN THE CONTRACT TERMS, BUT, YEAH . AND I JUST I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR MUTUAL AID. THAT'S THE WORD OF THE NIGHT. AND I AGREE IT'S BUT IT'S GENERALLY POSITIVE. YEAH, BUT NO, THIS IS MY LAST QUESTION, FOR CHIEF. YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT HALF THE RUNS OR MUTUAL AID, DO WE HAVE OR DO YOU HAVE, LIKE A HEAT MAP OF WHERE THE MAJORITY OF THESE MUTUAL AID RUNS ARE? AND I'M GOING TO SEGUE KIND OF DAVE TOUCHED ON IT. YOU KNOW, THE NEW STATION AT HARLEM THAT'S GOING TO BE ONLINE IN A COUPLE OF YEARS. YOU KNOW, CAN WE ANTICIPATE HOW MUCH THAT'S GOING TO IMPACT THOSE RUNS WHEN THAT THAT STATION DOES COME ONLINE? WHEN WE COMPLETED THE STRATEGIC PLAN LAST YEAR, WE DO HAVE THIS HEAT MAPS AS PART OF THE DATA THAT WE COLLECTED IN ORDER TO SELECT WHERE WE NEEDED A FIRE STATION LOCATION TO BETTER SERVE OUR COMMUNITY SO WE CAN PROVIDE YOU THOSE HEAT MAPS, AS FAR AS THE GROWTH IN NEW ALBANY AND THE FIRE STATION THAT WILL BE BUILT, CENTRAL COLLEGE IN HARLEM, STATION 36 FOR COLUMBUS, WE DON'T ANTICIPATE A DROP MUCH OF A DROP IN CALL VOLUME JUST BECAUSE THE CITY OF COLUMBUS IN THAT AREA IS GROWING AS WELL.

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I'D LOVE TO PROVIDE THAT FOR YOU, ONE THING I WANT TO ADDRESS REAL QUICK, QUICKLY WAS THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. WHAT? WE DIDN'T REALLY MENTION WAS THE GROWTH OF THE PEOPLE THAT COME HERE TO WORK THERE, AND THAT WE KNOW OUR DAYTIME POPULATION DOUBLES, AND SO AS WE BUILD MORE BUSINESSES IN TOWN, THERE IS MORE POPULATION, MORE POPULATION EQUALS MORE CALL VOLUME FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. SO ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, THE COMMERCIAL, EVEN THOUGH THE BUILDING MAY NOT BE GETTING A DAILY RUN TO IT, THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THAT COME HERE TO WORK THERE CAN GENERATE THOSE CALL VOLUMES, I THINK. I THINK A BREAKDOWN AS, COUNCIL MEMBER, REQUESTED A BREAKDOWN OF THE COMMERCIAL RUNS WOULD BE REALLY, REALLY HELPFUL. ESPECIALLY IF YOU COULD SEE IN A HISTORICAL CONTEXT AND WHAT YOU WOULD PROPOSE FOR THE FUTURE. JUST ONE MORE THING I WANT TO MENTION BEFORE I STEP DOWN HERE IS THE MUTUAL AID, CARRIE, I DON'T THINK MAYBE I DIDN'T EXPLAIN IT EXACTLY. WELL, THE MODEL FOR FIRE PROTECTION IN CENTRAL OHIO IS WITH MUTUAL AID. THERE IS NO FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT EXISTS IN CENTRAL OHIO THAT DOESN'T HAVE MUTUAL AID RESPONSE TO AND FROM.

SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS JUST THE MODEL OF PROVIDING FIRE AND EMS. AND I KNOW SOMETIMES, THE, THE IN THE POLICE WORLD, IT'S MUCH DIFFERENT, BUT IN THE FIRE WORLD, IT'S VERY COMMON FOR EACH DAY TO PROVIDE SERVICE TO ANOTHER COMMUNITY AND SOME OTHER COMMUNITY HELPING YOU. SO THAT'S THAT'S JUST A MODEL THAT WE HAVE . AND WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT A STANDALONE PERSON DOING THAT.

YEAH SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS I CAN HELP YOU WITH? I DO I HAVE ONE NOT FOR YOU, CHIEF. OKAY LET'S GIVE YOU A CHANCE DOWN. SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE NUMBERS THAT YOU PRESENTED IN TERMS OF REVENUE OF 8.7 AND 9.8, IN TERMS OF EXPENSES LAST YEAR, AND CLEARLY, EVEN WITH THE ABATEMENTS THAT YOU ASKED ABOUT, MIGHT BE $600,000, YOU'RE STILL WELL BELOW WHAT THE EXPENDITURES ARE. I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND PRIOR TO LAST YEAR, HOW DID REVENUE AND SPENT REVENUE VERSUS SPENDING LOOK, THAT NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN WE HAVE THIS SIGNIFICANT SHORTFALL AS A BIT OF A SURPRISE TO US. AND WHAT HAS BEEN GOING ON OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS TO GET TO THIS POINT. THANK YOU.

DO YOU WANT ME TO EXPLAIN YOU WANT TO HELP ANSWER THIS? THERE. SO PROBABLY HAVE OUR TOWNSHIP ADMINISTRATOR JOINED US AS WELL. SURE. YOU KNOW, THE COST OF LIVING WAGES, EMPLOYMENT, WE ADDED AN EMS COORDINATOR. WE'VE ADDED STAFF. SO THAT'S FIRST FOREMOST. ALSO, THE ADDITION OF EQUIPMENT, OUR AGING EQUIPMENT NEEDS A LOT OF REPAIRS. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT EQUIPMENT. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT PEOPLE DEFERRED MAINTENANCE AND THEN JUST ALSO PREPARING FOR GROWTH. RIGHT BUT OVER TIME IT'S ERODED A LITTLE BIT OF THAT. YOU KNOW, GENERAL FUND. SO AS WE PROJECT OUT ALL OF THESE COSTS, IT IS TO DO BUSINESS AND RUN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. YOU'RE STARTING TO SEE THAT GENERAL FUND ERODE. AND THAT'S WHERE THE NEED IS GOING TO BE AS WE PROJECT OUT. SO THE 8.7 IS REVENUE JUST FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. IS THAT RIGHT? JUST FOR FIRE AND EMS. SO DO YOU RUN A SIMILAR DEFICIT ACROSS OTHER DEPARTMENTS IN THE TOWNSHIP? NO, NO. THERE'S ROAD MAINTENANCE FUNDS AND I CAN HAVE BEN CAN COME UP HERE AND ANSWER SOME OF THOSE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS WHEN IT COMES TO THE TOWNSHIP AND THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS. NO, I'M JUST TRYING TO GRASP THE CONTEXT, THE SITUATION TODAY IS IT'S EXHIBITED ITSELF. WHEN DID IT BEGIN TO BECOME MORE APPARENT THAT IT'S NEW TO US NOW? WELL WE OKAY. SURE. AND COLLINS, PLAIN TOWNSHIP ADMINISTRATOR, 45 SECOND STREET, MISTER DEREK. SO THIS IS, THE RESULT OF PROPERTY TAX LAW IN OHIO. SO THIS IS THE SAME SCENARIO WE FACED IN 2014 AND 2007, WHEN A PROPERTY TAX LEVY IS APPROVED BY THE VOTERS, IT GENERATES AN EXCESS OF REVENUE FOR A PERIOD OF TIME UNTIL THERE'S A TIPPING POINT, AT WHICH POINT EXPENSES EXCEED THE REVENUE FOR A PERIOD OF YEARS. THEN YOU GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE'RE AT NOW, WHERE YOU NEED ADDITIONAL FUNDING. THAT'S THE NATURE OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT FUNDED BY PROPERTY TAXES. IT'S VERY DIFFERENT FROM LOCAL GOVERNMENT, FUNDED BY INCOME TAXES, BUT IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE EXPERIENCED IN 2014 AND 2007. AND TO GIVE YOU A LOOK BACK, WHEN THE 2008 LEVY WAS APPROVED, THE AMOUNT COLLECTED IN 2009 WAS FLAT THROUGH 2015, NO ADDITIONAL FUNDING. THIS LEVY IS PERFORMED A LITTLE BIT BETTER , ABOUT 17% UP OVER THOSE NINE

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THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU GO LAST IN THE PRESENTATION OF THREE. WE GOT THROUGH ALL THE QUESTIONS ALREADY. SO I'LL BE QUICK. SO RIGHT HERE WE TALK ABOUT THE RUN GROWTH. WE'RE GROWING ANNUALLY AT 4.47 I THINK THIS NEXT GRAPHIC REALLY GIVES YOU KIND OF WHERE OUR RUNS ARE GOING. SO WE'VE BROKEN DOWN THE TOWNSHIP IN SEGMENTS. YOU'LL SEE A, B, C, D AND E ALL THROUGH.

BUT EVERYTHING THAT'S IN BOLD, THOSE ARE TEN SEGMENTS WITHIN THE CITY, WITHIN OUR, OUR TOWNSHIP. THAT TAKES US OVER SEVEN MINUTES TO GET TO A RESPONSE. IDEALLY IN THE FIRE SERVICE WOULD LIKE TO BE UNDER SEVEN MINUTES FROM A TIME THAT A CALL COMES IN. WHAT'S RECEIVED IN DISPATCH. THEY TURN OUT TIME AND TIME THEY GET. BUT YOU CAN SEE THE HIGHER TIMES IS WE HAVE TRAFFIC. SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO TAKE DUBLIN-GRANVILLE ROAD. 161 IS TOO BUSY. WE HAVE TO TAKE SIDE ROADS PULLING OVER, GETTING CARS TO MOVE. SO WITHIN THAT YOU CAN SEE THE RUNS. YOU CAN SEE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF PLAIN TOWNSHIP. YOU CAN SEE THE EXTRA TIME THAT IT TAKES. SO AS WE PLAN FOR GROWTH IN OUR STRATEGIC PLAN, WE HAVE TO PLAN FOR ADDITIONAL BUILDING ADDITIONAL RESIDENTS. WHAT'S THAT GOING TO TAKE FOR US TO GET TO. BECAUSE OUR WE'RE IN THE BUSINESS OF SAVING LIVES, WE NEED TO GET THERE QUICK TO SAVE A LIFE. SO THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT AS OUR FORECASTING WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THIS A LOT, AND REVIEW THIS ALONG WITH OUR DAILY RUNS EVERY MONTH. SO IT'S AN IMPORTANT SLIDE, I THINK, FOR EVERYONE TO VIEW, ALIGNMENT, YOU KNOW, WE JUST CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH, I THINK THIS HAS BEEN A REALLY GREAT, PRESENTATION FOR US TO COME HERE AND GET YOUR FEEDBACK AND QUESTIONS. SO WE VALUE YOUR COMMITMENT, YOUR PARTNERSHIP, ALONG WITH OTHER COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS. SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING TOGETHER AND PROTECTING OUR COMMUNITY AND SAVING LIVES. SO THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, BEFORE I FINISH JUST ONE POINT TO MAKE, YOU KNOW, THE CITY HAS HAD SOME SUCCESS OVER THE LAST DECADE OR SO WITH SOME COMMERCIAL GROWTH, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WILL REMIND US THAT IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT A LOT OF THAT COMMERCIAL GROWTH WASN'T IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. THAT'S ALSO TRUE, THAT A LOT OF THE COMMERCIAL GROWTH IS OUTSIDE OF PLAIN TOWNSHIP AS WELL. SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT RESIDENTIAL GROWTH, I JUST DON'T WANT ANYONE AT HOME WATCHING THIS MEETING TO BE CONFUSED, THAT PLAIN TOWNSHIP ACTUALLY DOESN'T SERVE THE MAJORITY OF OUR INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS CAMPUS. AND THERE'S ACTUALLY A MONROE TOWNSHIP SUBSTATION ON BEACH ROAD.

THERE'S A SOUTHWEST LICKING FIRE DEPARTMENT SUBSTATION ON MORRIS AND, SOUTH ON MORRIS, JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE OF BEACH. SO THERE ARE OTHER FIRE SERVICES, FROM THOSE OTHER TOWNSHIPS PROVIDING SERVICE TO SOME DEGREE, SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT, SO WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT COMMERCIAL ABATEMENTS, AGAIN, THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IS OUTSIDE THE PLAIN TOWNSHIP, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF PLANS OR EVEN LAND AVAILABLE FOR SIGNIFICANT COMMERCIAL GROWTH WITHIN PLAIN TOWNSHIP. I MEAN, THERE IS SOME LAND AVAILABLE. I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE SOMEONE KNOWS SOMETHING I DON'T. I'M LOOKING AT JENNIFER CHRYSLER, WE'RE CERTAINLY GOING TO HAVE SOME HOPEFULLY SOME RETAIL GROWTH, WITHIN THE VILLAGE CENTER AND AREAS IN THE COMMUNITY, BUT I WOULD CATEGORIZE THAT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN COMMERCIAL, SO JUST A COUPLE OF THOSE QUICK POINTS TO MAKE. BUT I MEAN, I FIRST OF ALL, I APPRECIATE YOU ALL TAKING THE TIME TO COME HERE TONIGHT AND TALK TO US ABOUT THIS, IT'S NOT YOU KNOW, PEOPLE DON'T ALWAYS APPRECIATE AT HOME HOW DIFFICULT IT IS FOR PUBLIC OFFICIALS TO GET TOGETHER IN A ROOM LIKE THIS AND HAVE THESE LEVELS OF CONVERSATIONS, THE, THE LAWS IN PLACE FOR A GOOD REASON, TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF OUR ACTIVITIES ARE DONE IN A PUBLIC SETTING, SO SOMETIMES IT'S HARD FOR US TO HAVE THESE, YOU KNOW, FRANK AND OPEN CONVERSATIONS. SO WE APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME TO COME HERE TONIGHT TO DO THAT WITH US, AND OTHERWISE, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S DIFFICULT FOR US TO HAVE THIS LEVEL OF CONVERSATION, BUT I'M SPEAKING FOR MYSELF. YOU KNOW, I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THE LONG HISTORY OF COOPERATION THAT THE VILLAGE NOW, THE NOW THE CITY, THE TOWNSHIP AND THE SCHOOLS HAVE HAD FROM DAY ONE, WE'VE BEEN VERY COLLABORATIVE AND WORKING TOGETHER TO DO WHAT'S BEST FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY IS THANKFUL FOR THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICE OF OUR PLAIN TOWNSHIP FIRE DEPARTMENT.

AND CHIEF CONNOR AND HIS ENTIRE, FIRE DEPARTMENT ARE SUPER VALUED BY OUR COMMUNITY AND SHOULD BE COMMENDED FOR ALL THAT THEY DO, I KNOW WE'RE ALL HOPEFUL THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO CALL FOR SERVICE, BUT REGRETTABLY, MY FAMILY HAS IN THE PAST. AND, KNOWING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GET THERE PROMPTLY AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE HIGHLY TRAINED AND PROVIDE A HIGH LEVEL OF SERVICE, WE'RE EXTREMELY THANKFUL FOR. SO, AGAIN, IT'S A IT'S A VERY DIFFICULT JOB. AND WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT THEY DO, I KIND OF REFLECT BACK ON THAT, LIKE WITH OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AS WELL. I MEAN, WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE SUCH GREAT PUBLIC SERVANTS DOING THEIR DUTY

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BUT THE COSTS I THINK CHIEF SAID IT'S AN EXPENSIVE TO RUN A FIRE DEPARTMENT. YOU HAVE A LOT OF COSTS TO DO WHAT THEY DO TO SAVE LIVES. TRAINING, EQUIPMENT, THE STAFF AND ALL OF THE, SERVICES WE PROVIDE COST MONEY, AND IT'S NOT A REVENUE INCOMING PRODUCING BUSINESS. SO THAT'S WHAT WE ARE FACED WITH. SO I DON'T THINK THAT BUSINESS MODEL IS GOING TO CHANGE FOR OUR, YOU KNOW, FOR FIRE DEPARTMENTS. SO THAT'S WHY IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE REALLY BEEN FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR NINE YEARS, FORTUNATE TO NOT HAVE A LEVY FOR NINE YEARS. SO I THINK THE RESPONSIBILITY HAS BEEN THERE. BUT AS YOU SEE WITH DEFERRED MAINTENANCE EQUIPMENT, TECHNOLOGY, ALL OF THOSE LIFE SAVING TOOLS ARE CRITICAL FOR US TO OFFER THE BEST SERVICE WITH THE BEST FIREFIGHTERS. AND THE TRAINING THAT THEY DO IS EXCEPTIONAL BECAUSE IT IS A RESIDENTS BIGGEST NEED. THEY THEY KNOW THE FIRE DEPART IS GOING TO BE THERE. AND THAT'S JUST IT'S EXPENSIVE. I THINK THE BIGGEST THING TOO IS WE HAVE TO PLAN FOR EQUIPMENT AND WHEN OUR EQUIPMENT GOES DOWN, IT'S EXPENSIVE TO REPLACE AND FOR REPAIRS, MAINTENANCE AND THEN APPRECIATING. WE'VE BEEN HAVING, YOU KNOW, STRATEGIC PLANNING, WITH THE SCHOOLS, WORKING WITH CONSULTANTS TO LOOK AT THE LONG RANGE, GROWTH OF THE COMMUNITY, KNOWING THAT WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS A LITTLE BIT MORE ON RESIDENTIAL GROWTH, THAT'S WHAT THE MARKET IS DEMANDING. I MEAN, WE AS A CITY DON'T REALLY DECIDE THAT IF WE STAY THE SAME SIZE WE ARE TODAY, THAT MIGHT BE FINE. BUT THE MARKET IS PUTTING PRESSURE ON RESIDENTIAL GROWTH. SO WE'VE GONE THROUGH A PRETTY EXHAUSTIVE PROCESS TO TRY TO PROJECT WHAT THAT GROWTH WOULD LOOK LIKE, BUT THE SCHOOLS, YOU KNOW, HAVE TARGETED THIS FALL FOR A PERIOD OF TIME TO GO ON THE BALLOT FOR A LEVY, AND IT'S JUST, I THINK WE'RE ALL HOPEFUL THAT WE CAN WORK TOGETHER TO TRY TO LESSEN, THE REQUEST FOR TAXES TO THE COMMUNITY. SO IT'S SEQUENCED IN SOME CERTAIN WAY, APPRECIATING THAT EVERYONE, AGAIN, WE HAVE NO AUTHORITY OVER THE TOWNSHIP NECESSARILY, OR THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO BE A GOOD PARTNERS AND MAKE SURE THE COMMUNITY FEELS THAT, THEY'RE BEING INFORMED ABOUT THE PROCESS AND THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL REVENUE. SO, HAS IS THE TOWNSHIP. AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THE

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I'M NOT SURE IF YOU'RE AWARE OF THAT. IT ALREADY SAYS THAT THAT COMMERCIAL TIFF REVENUE WILL BE SHARED WITH PLAIN TOWNSHIP FOR FIRE SERVICE. WE'RE JUST ASKING YOU TO CONFIRM THAT IN WRITING.

IS THAT THE IS THAT A $600,000 NUMBER FIVE FIVE AND CHANGE ABOUT 550? YEP. OKAY. I'M SORRY.

ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, FROM COUNCIL TO OUR COLLEAGUES AT THE TOWNSHIP, I THINK I WANT TO JUST REITERATE WHAT OUR MAYOR SAID, WHICH IS THAT I HAD THE MOST TREMENDOUS RESPECT AND APPRECIATION FOR OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT VERY GRATEFUL FOR THE SERVICE I PERSONALLY HAVE RECEIVED. AND I KNOW MANY HAVE RECEIVED. AND I'M GRATEFUL TO THE TOWNSHIP FOR RUNNING IT SO INCREDIBLY WELL AND HAVING SUCH A FABULOUS SERVICE FOR THE COMMUNITY. AND PLEASE KNOW THAT OUR QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS ARE MUCH MORE ABOUT ALL OF US FACING INFLATION AND ALL OF US FACING A WHOLE LOT OF PRESSURE ABOUT WHAT TO DO WITH AS STEWARDS OF TAXPAYER MONEY. ALWAYS. RIGHT.

AND, I CERTAINLY WANT US TO SUPPORT AND DO THE BEST WE CAN TO BE HELPFUL WITHIN THOSE PARAMETERS. AND YOU KNOW, WE'LL DO THE BEST WE CAN TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO. AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR PROVIDING SERVICES TO RESIDENTIAL AND ALSO TO NURSING HOMES. MY FATHER IN LAW IS AT SMITH'S MILL AND HE HAS RECEIVED SERVICES. AND, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE BEST PARTS, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE SAY THEY LOVE ABOUT NEW ALBANY IS HOW SAFE THEY FEEL. AND I KNOW THAT THAT IS IN LARGE PART DUE TO YOUR EFFORTS, AND THERE'S FAR TOO MANY LAWYERS ON THIS BOARD FOR YOU NOT TO GET CALLED WITH QUESTIONS. SO THANK YOU FOR BEING SO WELL PREPARED AND WELL SPOKEN, AND WE HOPE TO CONTINUE THIS DISCUSSION. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU. AND I USUALLY SAY THIS DURING HEARING VISITORS, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE HAVE ONE TOPIC THAT, THAT HAS A CERTAIN LEVEL OF INTEREST. YOU'RE WELCOME TO STAY FOR THE REST OF OUR MEETING, BUT IF YOU'D LIKE TO GO. BUT I DON'T RECOMMEND IT. IS LEFT OF A SWELTERING EVENING, AND WE WOULD TAKE NO OFFENSE IF YOU DECIDED TO GO, WITH THAT, WE'LL SHIFT THE CONVERSATION TO OUR UPDATE ON THE VETERANS MEMORIAL. DIRECTOR JOLLY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO STAND UP HERE BECAUSE I HAVE SOME VISITORS TO INTRODUCE. TONIGHT WITH ME. I HAVE JEFF PAGONIS AND MATT KELLOGG FOR MXQ, AND ALSO TOM RUBY FROM THE NEW ALBANY COMPANY, THIS GROUP AND THIS, TEAM HAS WORKED TOGETHER FOR MANY YEARS ON THE VETERANS MEMORIAL AND THE, ROSE RUN PARK, REALLY GOING BACK TO 2009, THE CITY HAS HAD A GOAL OF RELOCATING, AND REBUILDING THE VETERANS VETS MEMORIAL THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS ON MAIN STREET. AND TO FURTHER THOSE EFFORTS IN 2020, WE CONVENED A FOCUS GROUP OF RESIDENTS WHO ARE ALSO VETERANS TO ADVISE THE CITY ON WHAT TYPE OF SPACE AND WHAT TYPE OF MEMORIAL THEY THINK WOULD BE BEST TO HONOR THE COMMUNITY'S VETERANS. AND DURING THAT PLANNING PROCESS, THEY REALLY WANTED TO CREATE A SPACE THAT WAS, REFLECTIVE AND PEACEFUL SET IN A NATURAL SETTING, AND REALLY CREATE MORE OF AN EXPERIENCE FOR THE COMMUNITY. INSTEAD OF FOCUSING ON MAYBE AN OBJECT WITH A BUNCH OF NAMES ON IT. SO THE LOCATION BEHIND VILLAGE HALL AND WHAT WE REFER TO AS THE CIVIC BLOCK, BETWEEN DUBLIN-GRANVILLE ROAD, VILLAGE HALL ROAD, MAIN STREET AND RNA WAS IDENTIFIED AS THE BEST LOCATION TO ACHIEVE THAT VISION OF THE VETERANS FOCUS GROUP, SO COLLABORATIVELY, WITH THE NEW ALBANY COMPANY, IN

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WITHIN THIS SEGMENT OF ROSE RUN PARK, SO WE HAVE COLLABORATED WITH THE NEW ALBANY COMPANY ON THIS VISION, AND AT THIS TIME, IT'S STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION THAT CITY COUNCIL WOULD MAKE A FORMAL MOTION ON TO REQUEST THE NEW ALBANY COMPANY, TO DEDICATE THE LAND THAT THEY OWN WITHIN THE CIVIC BLOCK TO THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY FOR THE PURPOSE OF AN EXTENSION OF ROSE RUN PARK THAT WOULD INCLUDE A VETERANS MEMORIAL, TO CREATE AN AMENITY FOR THE COMMUNITY AND TO HONOR THE COMMUNITY'S VETERANS. AND, TOM RUBY AND MCCASKEY IS HERE, IS HERE AS WELL. WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE. CAN YOU IDENTIFY THE PROPERTY YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? SURE. SO ON THIS EXHIBIT. ANYTHING THAT IS IN COLOR IS OWNED BY THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY NOW. SO FROM THE POLICE STATION OVER TO VILLAGE HALL AND THEN TO A POINT, A JUST KIND OF BELOW WHAT IS THE OLD MILL WAREHOUSE BUILDING? NEW ALBANY COMPANY OWNS THE OLD MILL WAREHOUSE BUILDING. WHAT WAS THE DUKE AND DUCHESS PROPERTIES, WHICH ALSO EXTENDS SOUTH OF THE CREEK. AND THEN THEY OWN THE OLD POLICE DEPARTMENT BUILDING ON THIS CORNER, I THINK IT'S JUST UNDER TWO ACRES IN TOTAL. SO IT'S THE ENTIRETY OF THE GRAY AREA? THAT'S CORRECT. YEAH JUST TO BE CLEAR. YEAH. SO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO SATISFY THE REQUEST FROM NACO, TO DO A MOTION, JUST DO A MOTION. I THINK YOU WERE KIND ENOUGH TO DESCRIBE IT AS TAKING A PAUSE, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS HAS BEEN A PROJECT THAT WE'VE WORKED ON. AND AGAIN, I THINK JEFF AND HIS WHOLE TEAM AT MXQ, I THINK WE DID ALL LOOK AT THESE FIVE SITES FROM THE BEGINNING AND NARROWED IT DOWN TO THIS ONE AND WENT THROUGH A PRETTY COMPREHENSIVE PROCESS WITH A LOT OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO DEVELOP THIS, VETERANS MEMORIAL. AND IT JUST IT'S KIND OF REMINDED ME OF THE PROCESS WE WENT THROUGH FOR ALL THOSE YEARS WITH THE ROSE RUN, WHERE YOU FINALLY GOT TO THE VISION AND YOU'RE LIKE, OH, THAT'S IT. THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING TOWARDS. AND THIS FELT THE SAME TO ME, EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT WE WERE GOING TO PERHAPS PUT IN A PARKING STRUCTURE AND SOME COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES AROUND IT, SORT OF BLOCKING IT OFF, WHICH WAS PART OF THE GOAL IN THE BEGINNING WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS VERY OPEN AND ACCESSIBLE. SO IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR US TO TAKE A MOMENT AND JUST LET'S LOOK AT IT AGAIN AND MAKE SURE THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO DO. AND I THINK IN

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AND MAYOR SPALDING, IF WE CAN HAVE THAT IN WRITING. AND I COULD GET THAT. THAT WOULD BE GREAT. I WROTE ALL OVER THIS. BUT I'LL MAKE SURE YOU HAVE IT BEFORE WE LEAVE. ALL RIGHT, ANYTHING ELSE UNDER HEARING VISITORS. DO WE HAVE A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS COUNCIL REGARDING MATTER? NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. ALL RIGHT, I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, SOME STORYBOOKS TO SHARE WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND POTENTIAL DONORS ON THE VETERANS MEMORIAL, AND I WILL, YOU KNOW, GLADLY GO AROUND AND GO DOOR TO DOOR LOOKING FOR SPONSORSHIPS.

SO LOOK FORWARD TO THAT. AND AGAIN, THANKS, JEFF, TO YOUR TEAM. YOU GUYS DO INCREDIBLE

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AND THEN ANOTHER ONE WAS A SIGN THAT WAS A, MONUMENT SIGN, THAT'S NOT USUALLY ALLOWED. THAT HAD MORE THAN THE NORMAL NUMBER OF COLORS, AND WAS NOT SCREENED. THE DIRECTIONAL ARROW SIGN WAS APPROVED WITH SOME ADDITIONAL SCREENING REQUIREMENTS AND A DIRECTIVE THAT IT ONLY BE THOSE TWO COLORS AND WOULD BE OFF DURING BUSINESS HOURS, AND THE MONUMENT SIGN WAS, VOTED, AGAINST, THEY WERE IT WAS VOTED TO BE AGAINST THE CODE AND NOT APPROVED. FINALLY OUR LAST CASE WAS THE ALL SAINTS EPISCOPAL CHURCH REQUEST TO PUT ON SOLAR PANELS FOR THEIR CHURCH FACILITY , AND THAT WAS, UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED WITH GUSTO, AND THEN WE HAD A PREVIEW OF THE PARKWAY, PROJECT, WHICH, SOUNDS AMAZING. THERE'S GOING TO BE, MORE INFORMATION TO COME ON THAT, BUT A MIX OF, RESIDENTIAL, MEDICAL USES AND PROFESSIONAL USES AND SOME REALLY, BEAUTIFUL SOUNDING GREEN SPACE ON A 100 ACRE PROPERTY. ANY QUESTIONS ON THE UPDATE? IT WAS A FUN DAY.

DRIVING RANGE IS TABLED AGAIN. TABLED AGAIN. OKAY. TABLED AGAIN. HAVE WE FIGURED OUT WHERE

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IT'S CLOSED. BUT THEY'RE THE DRIVE. BUT PEOPLE THE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS DISCUSSED LAST TIME, WAS THAT THERE WERE STILL GOLF BALLS COMING IN ON THE PROPERTY THAT EVEN THOUGH IT WAS CLOSED, PEOPLE WERE STILL USING THE FACILITY, AND WE DISCUSSED WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER THE IMPORTANCE OF, YOU KNOW, POLICING AND PROVIDING SECURITY. SO THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN. OKAY. BUT BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN CLOSED SINCE FEBRUARY AND SOMEBODY WHO WAS THERE MIGHT REMEMBER THERE WAS SOME NUMBER OF BALLS THAT HAD BEEN ON THE PROPERTY SINCE THEN, BUT WE'RE ONLY THE TYPE OF BALLS THAT WERE AVAILABLE SHORTLY BEFORE THEY CLOSED. SO WE KNEW THAT THEY WERE RECENT.

THEY OWN THAT PROPERTY BEFORE THAT, DO YOU KNOW? SO FOR THE DRIVING RANGE WAS INSTALLED OR IT'S A NEW CHAPTER, IT'S A NEW OWNER, THEY PURCHASED THE PROPERTY IN 2002. THE CHURCH PROPERTIES KNEW, WHAT, 22. YEAH. I THINK CHIP'S QUESTION IS WHAT WHAT CAME FIRST, THE DRIVING RANGE OR THE DRIVING RANGE WAS OKAY. SO THE DRIVING RANGE WAS IN EXISTENCE FOR SOME TIME.

OKAY, AND IT WAS, IT SEEMED LIKE THERE WAS SOME IT WAS A COHESIVE ENVIRONMENT BETWEEN THE DRIVING RANGE AND THE CHURCH. THERE WAS A LARGE AMOUNT OF TREES THAT WERE THERE, 75 FOOT TREES, AND THAT THOSE TREES WERE PART OF A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED. WHEN THIS ALL CAME TO PASS, AT SOME POINT, WHEN THE OWNERSHIP OF THE GOLF COURSE CHANGED AND IT WAS THE APPLICANT'S, SUBMISSION THAT THIS WAS AFTER, THIS WAS BEFORE THEY TOOK POSSESSION OF THE PROPERTY THAT AT SOME POINT THE TREES WERE TAKEN DOWN BY THE GOLF COURSE, BY THE GOLF COURSE, CLEAR CUT TREES. SO THE ISSUE AND THEN AND THEN THE VOLUME OF THE GOLF BALLS CHANGED CONSIDERABLY. AND THE CHURCH HAD TO CHANGE OPERATIONS. THE SOCCER CLUB THAT WAS RENTING OUT THE FIELDS HAD TO STOP USING THE FIELDS, AND, AND THERE'S, YOU KNOW, BACK AND FORTH ABOUT, WHAT IS CAUSING THAT AND WHAT CAN BE FIXED, WHETHER OR NOT A NET IS, APPROPRIATE, HOW BIG THE NET SHOULD BE, BECAUSE IT'S A NET UP THERE. SO IT MUST BE THEY NEED A BIGGER NET, RIGHT. WELL, THEY PUT UP THE NET. YEAH. THE NEIGHBORS BELIEVE THAT THEY NEED A BIGGER NET. IT'S VERY HARD TO REPLICATE THOSE. THAT TREE STAND. YEAH, RIGHT. YEAH, I GOT IT. THANK YOU. NO PROBLEM. I WENT UP THERE TO USE THE DRIVING RANGE AND THEY'RE LIKE, SORRY, IT'S CLOSED. I'M LIKE, OH THAT'S RIGHT, IT IS CLOSED. WELL, I'M GLAD THEY TOLD YOU THAT BECAUSE THERE'S. IS THERE SOME RATIONALE FROM THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW GROUP AS TO HOW THEY'RE GOING TO RESOLVE THIS BETWEEN EACH OTHER? I MEAN, GOLF BALLS ARE GOING TO GET BETTER GOLFERS OR BIGGER FENCES, I GUESS. WELL THERE'S THE SUBMISSION FROM, THE APPLICANT, WHICH IS TO, PROVIDE A FENCE OR A NET AND SOME DIRECTIONAL ARROWS TO HOPEFULLY GET PEOPLE TO NOT AIM FOR THE BARN, WHICH IS WHAT PEOPLE ARE AIMING FOR, AND THEY HAVE UTILIZED, LOW. OH, GOD. WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? VELOCITY BALLS. WHERE THEY GO, THEY DON'T GO AS FAR, BUT, THERE'S THEY I WOULD AT LEAST AT THE LAST MEETING, THE PARTIES WERE IN AN IMPASSE. RIGHT. THE NEIGHBORS ARE CLAIMING THAT THE ONLY THING THAT IS GOING TO HELP IS THIS LARGE FENCE, THIS, THIS LARGE NET. I KEEP SAYING FENCE. I MEAN, NET, AND, THE NET THAT THEY WANT IS PROHIBITIVELY EXPENSIVE IN THE OWNER'S EYES. I'LL SAY THIS THOUGH, THE NEW OWNER OF THE GOLF COURSE, WHICH IS NEW ERA GOLF, ARE DOING A VERY NICE JOB UP THERE. THEY'RE MAKING A LOT OF IMPROVEMENTS JUST IN GENERAL, THE GOLF COURSE, AND IT LOOKS A LOT BETTER. YEAH YEAH, THEY'RE DONE A SHOW. YEAH, YEAH. SO I HOPE AND THEY HAVE WORKED REALLY WELL WITH THE RESIDENTS. SO I HOPE THAT THEY'RE COMING TO A RESOLUTION SOON HOPEFULLY BY JULY 15TH. YEAH. SO ALL RIGHT, PARKS AND TRAILS, NO MEETING, ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD. YEAH. THERE WAS A MEETING, AND THERE WAS THREE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA. THE FIRST WAS, THE SECOND TIME BRINGING IN THE,

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AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE BOARD WAS VERY MUCH IMPRESSED WITH THE ARCHITECTURE AND THE DESIGN OF THE BUILDINGS AND LIKED A LOT OF THAT, BUT THERE WERE A GREAT DEAL OF QUESTIONS ABOUT DIGGING INTO THE DETAIL. THIS IS A VERY, VERY SIGNIFICANT PROJECT. AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, WITH A WHOLE LOT OF DETAILS THAT WERE NOT YET ALL FLESHED OUT. AND IN THE END, THE BOARD WAS PRIMARILY UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THE DETAILS REGARDING HOW THE PROPERTY WAS GOING TO LOOK, BEING THAT IT IS RIGHT IN SUCH A CRUCIAL PART OF OUR CITY, HOW IT WOULD LOOK ON THE OUTSKIRTS OF THE PARKING LOT. SO THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT WHERE EXACTLY WILL THE BUILDING SIT, HOW WILL THEY BE SCREENED, WHAT KIND OF LANDSCAPE DO YOU HAVE IN THE OLD PART NOW VERSUS WHAT YOU WOULD BE ADDING TO THE NEW PART? WILL THERE BE MOUNDING FROM THE SCHOOL SIDE ON PHOTO ROAD AND FROM OLD DUBLIN GRANVILLE ROAD? AND IN THE END, THE DECISION WAS MADE THAT THEY WERE NOT FEELING COMFORTABLE ENOUGH APPROVING THESE PLANS THAT EVENING. AND SO IT IS THEREFORE BEEN TABLED AND I HAVE THE DATE SOMEWHERE. ARE THEY KNOCKING DOWN THE ORIGINAL CHURCH? IS IT. NO, NO. THIS IS ALL ADDITIONS SO FAR. NOTHING WILL BE THERE. THERE IS TALK OF I DON'T HAVE THE DATE BUT IT WAS TABLED TOO, SO I APOLOGIZE. IS IT FOR THE NEXT MEETING? DOES THAT CORRECT? CHRIS, THANK YOU. SO FOR THE NEXT ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW. NEW BUILDINGS. ARE THEY PUTTING UP AGAIN? I'M SORRY. SO THEY'RE LOOKING TO PUT UP A, A 8000 SQUARE FOOT, ONE STORY MAINTENANCE STORAGE BUILDING, AN 18,000 SQUARE FOOT, ONE STORY PARISH COMMUNITY CENTER. AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE ADDING ON TO ONE OF THE BUILDINGS TO MAKE IT 29,000FT■!S, TWO STORY PARISH LE CENTER. SO IT'S SIGNIFICANT BUILD, AND THEY'RE KIND OF GOING ALONG A LOT OF IT'S KIND OF ALONG THE PERIPHERY, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK WAS A GREAT CONCERN FOR PEOPLE. SO AGAIN, IT WAS BY NO MEANS, THERE WAS A LOT ABOUT THE PROJECT THAT EVERYBODY WAS VERY IN FAVOR OF. THEY JUST

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WE HAVE, A GOSPEL CHOIR. WE HAVE, AN AMAZING BAND, WE HAVE, SOMETHING FOR EVERYBODY, DANCING SONG, AND WE HAVE AN ARTIST THAT'S GOING TO BE MAKING, A PAINTING WHILE SHE'S AT THE, YOU KNOW, WHILE SHE'S AT THE EVENT, WHICH I THINK IS, IS REALLY, REALLY AMAZING, I HOPE THAT EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM COMES. I HOPE ANYBODY'S WATCHING HOME COMES, AND IT WOULD NOT BE POSSIBLE WITHOUT THE HARD WORK THAT ALL OF YOUR SUPPORT, AND ALSO WITHOUT THE SUPPORT OF OUR SPONSORS. SO WE HAVE THREE SPONSORS META, AMGEN AND INTEL, AND WE ARE REALLY, REALLY EXCITED ABOUT WHAT'S TO COME TOMORROW. YEP AND I THINK I DON'T WANT TO JINX ANYTHING, BUT I THINK WE'RE GOING TO COME IN UNDER BUDGET. OH, WE'RE COMING IN WAY UNDER BUDGET. AND I THINK WE ALL OWE IN PART, A BIG THANK YOU TO ANDREW ON THAT ONE BECAUSE, SHE WAS ABLE TO, NEGOTIATE, ONE OF OUR CONTRACTS DOWN SIGNIFICANTLY, WHICH WAS REALLY INTERESTING, ACTUALLY, WITH KAPPA, IT WAS A SIGNIFICANT SAVINGS THERE. SO THAT COMBINED WITH THE FACT THAT WE'RE SEEING SOME VERY SIGNIFICANT SCHOLARSHIP MONEY, WE'RE GOING TO PROBABLY COME IN AT ABOUT 50% OF BUDGET. RIGHT? SO MAYBE LESS. SO. WELL, THERE'LL BE, FOOD TRUCKS AND LIKE LAST YEAR. YES.

THERE I THINK THERE EIGHT FOOD TRUCKS. SO THREE MORE THAN LAST YEAR. RIGHT, HOPEFULLY THE LINES WILL NOT BE AS LONG, BUT, YOU KNOW, THE EFFECTS OF SOMEBODY SAID LIKE BREW DOG, CAN THEY COME UP TO THE CONCERT WILL BE ALL RIGHT. WHAT'S THAT? IT WILL NOT BE IN EFFECT BECAUSE IT'S IN EFFECT THURSDAY'S, STARTING ON THURSDAY. THAT'S RIGHT. THANK YOU. LET'S GO DRINK. GO DRINK YOUR BEER AND THEN COME BACK. YEAH. SO THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. THERE'S NO ALCOHOL SERVICE AT THE EVENT. IT'S A NO ALCOHOL EVENT. OKAY, MORE FAMILY FOCUSED . ALL RIGHT, WELL, LOOKING FORWARD TO IT. AND AGAIN, THANKS FOR ALL THE EFFORTS ON ON SPONSORSHIP. I MEAN, SOME OF THAT HAPPENED ORGANICALLY, WHICH IS AWESOME, BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE ALL ENVISIONED US PUTTING TOGETHER THESE VERY, UNIQUE CULTURAL EXPERIENCES IN THE COMMUNITY TO MAKE SURE FOLKS FEEL WELCOME. AND THEN HOPEFULLY THEY, THEY GROW ON THEIR OWN AND CAN BE SUPPORTED. SO THIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THAT SUCCEEDING . SO THANK YOU, ANY UPDATE FROM THE CEMETERY RESTORATION ADVISORY BOARD? NO MAIDEN. AND WE DID NOT HAVE A MEETING OF THE PUBLIC RECORDS COMMISSION. OKAY.

OF THE FENCE, WAGNER CEMETERY, WHICH LOOKS VERY NICE. YEAH, IT ACTUALLY MADE A BIG DIFFERENCE, DOESN'T IT? YEAH, IT'S A BIG, BIG DIFFERENCE. LOOKS GOOD THERE. YEAH CORRESPONDENCE FOR COMMUNICATION. HAS ANYONE RECEIVED ANY CORRESPONDENCE OR COMMUNICATIONS SINCE OUR LAST

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YEAH. GET ME EXCITED. WELL, IT'S GOING TO BE A BLAST. I JUST JUST HOLD ON TO YOUR HATS, SO I'LL DO MY BEST HERE. SO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE WE HAVE A SERIES OF THREE, RIGHT OF WAY ACCEPTANCES HERE.

ALL IN SUPPORT OF THE SOUTH HARLEM ROAD IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS. VERY HAPPY TO REPORT.

AND I GIVE FULL CREDIT TO JUSTIN WILKINSON, THAT OUR OUR PROJECTS ARE ARE VERY WELL UNDERWAY. IN FACT, STATE ROUTE 605 IMPROVEMENTS THERE ADJACENT TO THE SCHOOL CAMPUS ARE RUNNING, SIGNIFICANTLY AHEAD OF SCHEDULE, HESITANT TO SHARE WHAT THOSE MILESTONE DATES ARE, BUT IF YOU'VE DRIVEN BY IT RECENTLY, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THAT THERE'S BEEN AN AWFUL LOT OF WORK DONE IN A IN A VERY SHORT TIME. AND I GET I WANT TO CREDIT JUSTIN WITH THAT. JUST HAVING THINGS LINED UP, WE HAD OUR TEAM MOBILIZED AND ON SITE, WITHIN DAYS OF THE LAST DAY OF SCHOOL. SO WE REALLY ATTACKED THAT. AND I THINK THEY WERE ABLE TO GET A LOT OF WORK DONE VERY QUICKLY, THAT SAME CREW EQUIPMENT THERE, A LOT OF EQUIPMENT. YEAH GOOFING AROUND. YEAH. SO, THAT SAME TEAM, WILL BE MOVING ON TO THE SOUTH HARLEM ROAD IMPROVEMENTS. WE HAD A TENTATIVE DATE OF JUNE 17TH WHEN THEY WOULD START, WHICH WAS YESTERDAY, LOOKS LIKE THAT'S GOING TO BE SHORTLY AFTER THE 4TH OF JULY. AT THIS POINT, BUT WE'RE VERY HOPEFUL TO, TO CAPITALIZE ON ON THE WEATHER

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IT IS ALONG HARLEM ROAD, AND IT WILL ACCOMMODATE ESSENTIALLY PORTIONS OF OUR LEISURE TRAIL.

WE DO HAVE SOME EASEMENTS IN THE AREA AS WELL, THAT ARE SHOWN REALLY IN BLUE AND RED, BUT REALLY, I WANT TO FOCUS ON THE GREEN AREA, FOR THIS, SO THAT IS, THAT, THAT'S PROPERTY OWNER, FIRST ONE TO SPEAK OF AND HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE ON THAT. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. WOULD ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC LIKE TO SPEAK REGARDING ORDINANCE OH 17 2024? HEARING NO PUBLIC COMMENT, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IS THERE A MOTION ON THE ORDINANCE? I MOVE FOR THE ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE OH 17 2024. SECOND. COUNCIL MEMBER. KATZ. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. SCHULTZ. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER.

WELCH YES. MAYOR. SPALDING. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. BRISKE. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. DARK. YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER. FALLOWS. YES SEVEN. YES VOTES FOR THAT ORDINANCE OH 17 2024. ORDINANCE OH 18 2024. AN ORDINANCE TO ACCEPT A RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATION OF 0.131 ACRES AS NEEDED TO SUPPORT THE SOUTH HARLEM ROAD IMPROVEMENTS, AS REQUESTED BY MAYOR TOMMY BARMORE AND VERNON TYRON BARMORE, TRUSTEES OF DEALS TO THE DOOR. 401K TRUST OKAY, ONCE AGAIN, CONTINUATION OF, THE PRIOR ORDINANCE, THIS WAS ONE, I HAD ACTUALLY APPROACHED, THE PROPERTY OWNERS ABOUT THIS, THEY WERE VERY WELCOMING AND VERY INTERESTED IN THE IMPROVEMENTS, AND REALLY JUST AFTER SOME, SOME CONSIDERATION ON THEIR END, THEY WERE COMPLETELY SUPPORTIVE OF THE REQUEST. SO THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED, IN FACT, THERE ARE TWO PROPERTIES THAT ARE LOCATED ALONG HARLEM ROAD. THEY ARE JUST NORTH OF JASON COURT ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE ROAD. I APOLOGIZE FOR THE EXHIBITS THAT WE NEED TO GIVE SOMETHING MORE CLEAR SO YOU CAN ORIENT WHERE THIS IS AT, BUT GENERALLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE OLD, KIND OF SINGLE FAMILY HOME THAT'S ON THE PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH, CAMPUS AREA THERE. THERE ARE TWO HOMES ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE STREET THERE WHERE WE WOULD NEED RIGHT OF WAY IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE THIS PROJECT. SO, FARMERS WERE VERY SUPPORTIVE AND KIND, AND, CERTAINLY A PLEASURE TO WORK WITH. SO THIS RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATION IS OF, 0.131 ACRES ALONG HARLEM ROAD, THIS WILL BE UTILIZED AS WELL TO ACCOMMODATE, YOU KNOW, LINEAR TRAIL AND ALSO ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS IN THE AREA, I THINK THERE'S ALSO SOME STORM SEWER THAT KIND OF GOES THROUGH THIS AREA AS WELL. AND HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ON THAT. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ORDINANCE? OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. WOULD ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC LIKE TO SPEAK REGARDING ORDINANCE OH 18 2024? HEAR NO COMMENT. I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE A MOTION ON THE ORDINANCE? I MOVE FOR ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE OH SEVEN? OH 17 2024 OR OH 18 2024 SECOND. COUNCIL MEMBER WILTROUT. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. DERRICK. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. SCHULTZ.

YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. KIST. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. BELLOWS. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. BRYCE. YES.

MAYOR. SPALDING. YES. I HAVE SEVEN YES VOTES TO ADOPT. ORDINANCE OH 18 2024. ORDINANCE OH 19 2024 AN ORDINANCE TO ACCEPT THE RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATION OF POINT OF 0.150 ACRES AS NEEDED TO SUPPORT THE SOUTH HARLEM ROAD AND ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS, AS REQUESTED BY MONIQUE AND ROBERT BRETON. VERY GOOD. LAST, LAST BUT NOT LEAST. AND IN FACT, ACTUALLY FIRST, MISS BRITTON WAS REALLY THE PRIMARY CATALYST OF THIS PROJECT, I KNOW SHE WAS VERY

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YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. DERRICK. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. FELLOWS YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. KIST. YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER. SHAW. YES COUNCIL MEMBER. WILTROUT. YES. MAYOR. SPALDING. YES. SEVEN.

YES. VOTES FOR THAT ORDINANCE OH 19 2024. ALL RIGHT. AND AGAIN, THANK YOU, MR. BARKER AND YOUR TEAM, FOR WORKING WITH THESE RESIDENTS AND ESPECIALLY THANK YOU TO THE RESIDENTS FOR BEING COOPERATIVE AND MAKING THIS A BETTER PROJECT AND HELPING US ALIGN THE ROAD A LITTLE BIT MORE CLEANLY WITH YOUR PROPERTY DEDICATIONS. MUCH APPRECIATED, INTRODUCTION AND FIRST READING

[10. INTRODUCTION AND FIRST READING OF ORDINANCES]

SO SUBDIVISIONS TODAY, THIS IS A BRIEF AND DEFINITION ON OCCURS AND IS DEFINED AS ANY TIME YOU SPLIT A PARCEL THAT RESULTS IN FIVE ACRES OR LESS. SO IF YOU HAVE A PARCEL AND YOU WANT TO SPLIT THAT IN TWO, IF ANY ONE OF THOSE TWO PARCELS IS LESS THAN FIVE ACRES, THEN THAT'S CONSIDERED A SUBDIVISION PER CODE. AND WHAT HAPPENS WHEN IT'S A SUBDIVISION? WELL, THAT MEANS YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND IT ALSO HAS TO BE PLATTED. SO WHAT IS THAT INFRASTRUCTURE? WELL, THAT'S ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU KNOW, WE SEE. SO THAT'S EVERYTHING FROM STREETS TO SANITARY LINES TO WATER TO STORM LANDSCAPING, STREET LIGHTING AND ALSO PARKLAND AND OPEN SPACE AS WELL ARE INCLUDED IN THAT. SO THERE'S A LOT OF ITEMS THAT COME ALONG.

IT'S NOT AS EASY AS JUST SPLITTING A LOT. THERE'S A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE THAT COMES ALONG AND IS A REQUIREMENT AS PART OF THAT SUBDIVISION THAT MEETS THAT DEFINITION. SO WHAT'S THE PROBLEM THAT WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE TONIGHT? SO THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS IS A ONE SIZE FITS ALL. SO IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU'RE CREATING A TWO LOT SUBDIVISION OR A 200 LOT

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NOT IN FOUR. IT CAN BE SPLIT INTO TWO, BUT NOT TWO. YEAH, IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO SEE.

WHAT'S THE RATIONALE OF 150FT? IF YOU WANTED TO. I MEAN, IF YOU PUT A SHARED DRIVE AISLE DOWN THE MIDDLE OF THAT, LIKE, YEAH, WHAT DO WE CARE. SO THOSE FRONTAGES ARE BASED ON THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS. SO WE HAVE OUR ONES, OUR TWOS OR THREES, OUR FOURS.

AND AS THE NUMBER GETS LARGER SO DOES THE LOT GETS SMALLER. SO IF THAT MAKES SENSE. SO IN R4 ALLOWS FOR A LOT MORE DENSITY THAN R1. SO THE LOT SIZE GETS SMALLER. AND THE LOT FRONTAGE.

SO REALLY THE THOUGHT BEHIND IT IS THAT IT CHANGES THE DENSITY AND THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THAT AREA. AND THEN JUST ONE ONE QUESTION I HAD IS USING THIS EXAMPLE. LET'S JUST SAY ON THE, FOR PUTTING THIS ON THE MAP ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE LOT, LET'S JUST SAY THERE WAS A STREAM THAT RAN DOWN THE BACK OF THAT PROPERTY, WOULD WOULD WE HAVE ANY SPECIAL REQUIREMENTS REGARDING THAT RIPARIAN AREA IF THAT WAS SPLIT AND DEVELOPED? YEAH, THERE ARE. WE HAVE, TWO CODES THAT COULD APPLY. WE DO HAVE JUST A GENERAL RIPARIAN CORRIDOR BUFFER SO THAT IS, A MINIMUM OF 50FT ON EACH SIDE OF THE CREEK. WE ALSO HAVE ADOPTED OUR FLOODPLAIN ORDINANCE THAT WOULD ALSO APPLY, IF IT IS WITHIN 100 YEAR FLOOD ZONE, SO THAT THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER STANDARD IN ADDITION TO THESE LOT STANDARDS THAT WOULD APPLY TO ALL PROPERTIES WITHIN THE CITY. AND I KNOW WE'VE TRIED TO, YOU KNOW, AMENITIZED STREAM CORRIDORS. WOULD THERE BE ANY REQUIREMENT FOR, YOU KNOW, A LEISURE TRAIL CONNECTION, OR IS THAT JUST A BROADER PARKS AND TRAILS ADVISORY BOARD PROJECT? SO THAT WOULD BE A BROADER PARKS AND TRAILS ADVISORY BOARD PROJECT, BUT THE CODE DOES REQUIRE THAT ALICIA TRAIL IN THIS CASE WOULD HAVE TO GO ALONG THE STREET FRONTAGE, IF THIS WERE TO BE, BUILT UPON AND WE'D ALREADY DETERMINED THAT THE TRAIL WAS ONLY ON ONE SIDE AND WE'D DO THE FEE FOR IN-LIEU. YEAH. THE CODE ENCOURAGES LEISURE TRAILS ALONG STREETS AND CREEK CREEKS, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S USUALLY CAUGHT AND DISCUSSED DURING A REZONING PROCESS. BUT CODE, AS IT EXISTS TODAY ONLY TECHNICALLY REQUIRES IT ALONG THOSE STREET FRONTAGES. ALL RIGHT. LAST QUESTION FOR ME. SO IN THIS EXAMPLE, IF THEY CAME THROUGH THE LOT SPLIT, WOULD THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE REZONING PROCESS OR IS THAT JUST STAFF APPROVAL. SO IF THEY WENT THROUGH THE MINOR RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION, THAT WOULD JUST BE STAFF APPROVAL. BUT IF THEY WANTED, IF THEY COULD CHANGE THIS TO R4 BECAUSE OF THE FRONTAGE, THAT WOULD BE A WHOLE NOTHER. YEP. AND THEN THAT WOULD GO THROUGH THE NORMAL REZONING PROCESS OF PLANNING COMMISSION AND ULTIMATELY CITY COUNCIL. OKAY SORRY, THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS. NO PLANNING COMMISSION ASKED A LOT OF QUESTIONS. SO THAT'S OKAY. I HAD THE SAME QUESTION. IS THAT, IN ADDITION TO THAT, THEN DID YOU SAY YOU'VE DONE AN ANALYSIS THEN OF THE CITY TO SEE ABOUT HOW MANY R1 EXAMPLES THAT WE HAVE? NO WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT. WE WERE ASKED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND YOU KNOW, CANDIDLY, THERE'S I, WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PARCELS THERE. WE THINK, YOU KNOW, WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE STAFF HOURS TO DO THAT IN-DEPTH ANALYSIS. BUT, YOU KNOW, BASED ON THE NUMBER WE'VE SEEN IN THE PAST, I DON'T FEEL IT'D BE AN ABUNDANT AMOUNT. CURRENTLY WE KNOW OF ONE PROPERTY OWNER THAT'S INTERESTED IN TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THIS MINOR RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION. OKAY, I CAN THINK OF A HANDFUL OF THEM.

I YEAH, I KNOW OF ONE AS WELL. BUT I'M NOT SURE IF THIS WOULD WORK FOR THAT BECAUSE OF THE FRONTAGE. YEAH. NOW THAT I SEE THIS, OKAY. JUST KIND OF. THEY KIND OF. THERE'S A MARRIAGE BETWEEN THE ZONING AND THE FRONTAGE REALLY LIMITS THE APPLICATION OF THIS TO SITUATIONS WHERE IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE. OKAY AND THEN THE SECOND PART OF THIS UPDATE IS TO REFLECT OUR CURRENT, PROCEDURES AND WORKFLOW THAT HAPPENS DURING THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS. SO TYPICALLY AFTER A PROPERTY IS SUBDIVIDED, THEY GO BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. THEY HAVE A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. AND AFTER THAT POINT IS REALLY WHEN CONSTRUCTION STARTS. SO A LOT OF THE RED LINE TEXT YOU SEE IN THAT EXHIBIT IS JUST TO REFLECT THIS FLOW CHART, TO MATCH OUR CURRENT PRACTICES. THAT HAS BEEN SO SUCCESSFUL, IN THE CITY HISTORICALLY. SO SO THE TYPICAL

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ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE ORDINANCE AND WE'LL SET THAT FOR THE SECOND READING AND PUBLIC HEARING OR MEETING ON JULY SECOND. ORDINANCE. OH 21 2020 FOR AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE NEW ALBANY VILLAGE CENTER URBAN CENTER FORM CODE OF THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY. CODIFIED ORDINANCES. THANK YOU SO, AS STEVE KIND OF ALLUDED TO, OUR DEPARTMENT REGULAR EXAMINES OUR CODE TO IDENTIFY ANY ISSUES THAT THAT MAY EXIST, AND PRIORITIZE AMENDING CODE WHERE APPROPRIATE, TO MATCH, CURRENT PRACTICES. SO ON THE OUTSET FOR THIS, THIS CODE CHANGE, I DO WANT TO STRESS THAT THIS IS MORE WE DO THIS MORE AS AN UPDATE. IT IS, YOU KNOW, FORMALLY GOING BEFORE YOU AS A CODE CHANGE. BUT IT IS, YOU KNOW, MORE OF AN UPDATE TO OUR PROCESS. SO I WILL WALK YOU THROUGH THE ENTIRE ISSUE AND SOLUTION. BUT I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF SET THE STAGE HERE AND PRESENT THESE TO THINGS TO YOU ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE PRESENTATION. SO THE ISSUE THAT WE HAVE HERE IS THAT STRICT INTERPRETATION OF THE CURRENT URBAN CENTER CODE RESULTS IN REQUIRING TWO PARKLAND AND OPEN SPACE REGULATIONS TO BE APPLIED WITHIN THE VILLAGE CENTER. THE PROPOSED SOLUTION IS THAT THE URBAN CENTER CODE BE UPDATED SO THAT A SINGLE PARKLAND AND OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENT APPLIES IN THE VILLAGE CENTER, AND I WILL WALK YOU THROUGH THIS IN DETAIL. SO IN THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY, THERE ARE TWO WAYS THAT PARKLAND AND OPEN SPACE ARE PROVIDED. AND THAT IS DEPENDENT ON THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION OF A PROPERTY. SO FOR PROPERTIES OUTSIDE THE VILLAGE CENTER, THOSE ARE ALL ZONED, WHICH WHAT WE CALL PLANNING SCHOOL, A TRADITIONAL EUCLIDEAN ZONING DISTRICT WHERE FOR THERE ARE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT APPLY THAT HELP PROVIDE PARKLAND AND OPEN SPACE. AND I WILL WALK YOU THROUGH SOME EXAMPLES OF THAT HERE IN A SECOND INSIDE THE VILLAGE CENTER , WE HAVE A PSEUDO FORM BASED CODE WHICH IS KNOWN AS THE URBAN CENTER CODE, WHERE PARKS AND OPEN SPACE IS PROVIDED AND OUR LAND IS DESIGNATED TO BE, PARKLAND OPEN SPACE IN THE FORM OF A ZONING DISTRICT. SO FIRST, WE'LL GO A LITTLE BIT DEEPER ON THE URBAN CENTER CODE AND HOW PARKLAND AND OPEN SPACE IS PROVIDED AS A ZONING DISTRICT.

SO AS I MENTIONED, THE URBAN CENTER CODE IS A PSEUDO FORM BASED CODE THAT APPLIES TO ALL THE AREAS IN COLOR. THIS IS OUR VILLAGE CENTER, THE, THE THIS CODE PROVIDES REQUIREMENTS AND REGULATIONS FOR PERMITTED USES AND BUILDING TYPOLOGIES INSIDE THE VILLAGE CENTER, AND DIFFERENT USES AND BUILDING TYPOLOGIES ARE PERMITTED BASED ON THE SUBJECT DISTRICT THAT

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THAT'S IT. THOSE ARE EXAMPLES OF EUCLIDEAN IN, USE SPACE ZONING CLASSIFICATIONS. SO IN OUR CITY CODE, WE ACTUALLY DO NOT HAVE OR IN THE EUCLIDEAN CITY CODE, WE DO NOT HAVE, A PARKS AND PRESERVATION DISTRICT. SO BECAUSE OF THIS WE ACTUALLY HAVE PROVIDED OUR IN THESE EUCLIDEAN USE BASED ZONING DISTRICTS, PARKLAND AND OPEN SPACES PROVIDED VIA DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, WHICH ARE FOUND IN CODE SECTION 1165. AND THESE CODE STANDARDS ACTUALLY WILL BE VERY FAMILIAR TO YOU, BECAUSE THIS IS ACTUALLY THE MOST COMMON WAY THAT PARKLAND AND OPEN SPACES PROVIDED, AS PART OF PART AS PART OF RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISIONS. SO AS YOU ALL KNOW, AS PART OF A RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION FOR, DEVELOPMENT THAT'S OUTSIDE OF THE VILLAGE CENTER PARKLAND AND OPEN SPACE IS PROVIDED IN, OUR TWO METRICS. SO FOR PARKLAND, 2400FT■!S OF PARKLAND MUST BE DEDICATED PER DWELLING UNIT. IN ADDITION, 20% OF THE OVERALL GROSS DEVELOPED AREA MUST BE DEVELOPED AS OPEN SPACE. SO SOME EXAMPLES, MORE RECENT EXAMPLES OF THIS, THAT MAY BE FAMILIAR TO YOU GUYS LIKE THE COURTYARDS AT HAYNES CREEK SUBDIVISION THAT RECENTLY CAME THROUGH WOODHAVEN. AND, I THINK THOSE ARE THE TWO MOST RECENT SUBDIVISIONS THAT WE HAD, WHERE THESE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS HAVE APPLIED. SO, COMING BACK TO THE ISSUE THAT WE FOUND IN OUR URBAN CENTER CODE, OUR URBAN CENTER CODE DOES NOT CLEARLY, EXEMPT OR DESCRIBE THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE ZONING DISTRICT DESIGNATIONS OF THE URBAN CENTER CODE AND, THE RELATIONSHIP TO CITY CODE AND THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND CITY CODE FOR PARKLAND AND OPEN SPACE AND STRICT INTERPRETATION ON, OF THE WAY THAT THE URBAN CENTER CODE IS CURRENTLY WRITTEN WOULD MEAN THAT PROPERTIES INSIDE THE VILLAGE CENTER WOULD NOT ONLY HAVE TO ADHERE TO THE PARKS AND PRESERVATION ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATIONS. IN ADDITION TO THOSE, THEY WOULD ALSO HAVE TO PROVIDE THE PARKLAND AND OPEN SPACE THAT'S LISTED AS A DEVELOPMENT STANDARD IN OUR CITY CODE, BECAUSE THE URBAN CENTER CODE DOES NOT CLEARLY TALK ABOUT THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE TWO REGULATIONS. SO WHY IS THIS AN ISSUE, WE WANTED TO TAKE A SECOND. I'M SURE EVERYONE'S WELL AWARE OF, YOU KNOW, THE HISTORY AND THE OVERALL GOALS AND VISION FOR OUR VILLAGE CENTER, BUT JUST WANTED TO WALK YOU THROUGH IT A LITTLE BIT. SO THIS IS AN IMAGE FROM THE 2005 VILLAGE CENTER STRATEGIC PLAN. OBVIOUSLY THIS HAS BEEN UPDATED, YOU KNOW, OVER THE YEARS WITH, ITERATIONS OF OUR OVERALL ENGAGE OUR STRATEGIC PLAN FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY. BUT THIS WAS THE, YOU KNOW, GUIDING DOCUMENT THAT WAS ESTABLISHED FOR THE VILLAGE CENTER. BACK IN 2005, AS YOU CAN SEE, I THINK, LOTS OF PEOPLE SHOULD GIVE THEMSELVES PATS IN THE BACK, BUT WE'VE REALLY LOOKED AT THE VILLAGE CENTER AND PLANNED PARKLAND AND OPEN SPACE AT THE MACRO LEVEL, RATHER THAN LOOKING AT IT ON A SITE BY SITE BASIS, WHICH IS KIND OF HOW IT'S DONE IN CITY CODE WITH THOSE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. SO AGAIN, THIS IS 2005, AND WHAT WE'VE BEEN WHAT HAVE WE BEEN ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH AS A COMMUNITY? YOU KNOW, SWICKARD WOODS IS IN PLACE TODAY. THE ODOT WETLANDS ARE IN PLACE TODAY, ROSE RUN, YOU KNOW, ROSE RUN PHASE TWO AND FUTURE PHASES ARE ALSO SHOWN, ON THIS MAP, SO, YOU KNOW, THE VILLAGE CENTER AS A WHOLE, BUT, YOU KNOW, EVEN MORE SPECIFICALLY

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THIS IS WHAT I'M READING WITH THIS. THIS SAYS HERE SOME FORM OF OPEN SPACE SHALL BE PROVIDED WITHIN 1200 LINEAR FEET OF ALL RESIDENTIAL UNITS. THAT EQUATES TO ABOUT A FIVE MILE WALK, WHICH IS A REALLY GOOD, NATIONAL, NATIONALLY ACCEPTED, LIKE BEST PRACTICE FOR PARKLAND AND OPEN SPACE ACCESSIBILITY, AND THEN THERE'S A QUALIFYING SENTENCE HERE AT THE END THAT YOU CAN'T READ, BUT, IT SAYS THAT THESE OPEN SPACES IN THE VILLAGE CENTER SHALL BE, YOU KNOW, ARRANGED AND PROGRAMED IN A WAY THAT MEETS THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT IT'S LOCATED IN, BUT ALSO THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE, SO THOSE ARE THE CHANGES THAT WE'RE PROPOSING TONIGHT, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS? I THINK I HAVE A QUESTION, BUT I'M NOT SURE.

PRETTY QUIET, I KNOW, BUT I'M NOT SURE. SO AS THE DENSITY IN THE VILLAGE CENTER INCREASES, WHICH IT WILL, HOW DOES THAT IMPACT THE RATIO OF PARKLAND, AND DOES THIS HAVE ANY IMPACT,

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WHEREVER THAT DEVELOPMENT INCREASES, IT'S GOING TO PUT MORE PRESSURE ON THAT GREEN SPACE, THE ROSE RUN, GREEN SPACE . IF WE'RE NOT OFFSETTING IT SOMEWHERE ELSE, BECAUSE NOW WE HAVE SO MUCH MORE DENSITY. THAT'S PART OF THE VILLAGE CENTER THAT IS GOING THAT THAT SPACE MIGHT BE IN HIGH DEMAND. AND AND, AND WE'RE NOT ADDING TO IT. SO WHAT I'M SAYING. YEAH, I DON'T KNOW THAT. AND I'LL LET OTHER STAFF MEMBERS SPEAK TO YOU, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE EXISTING AND FUTURE PHASES OF ROSE RUN OR OTHER AREAS IN THE COMMUNITY BEING OVERWHELMED WITH PARKLAND, OPEN SPACE AREAS. I THINK WHAT WE'RE REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT IS AS WE DEVELOP IN THE VILLAGE CENTER, MAKING SURE THAT THOSE, THOSE, THOSE SPACES ARE ACCESSIBLE TO PEOPLE WITHIN A SHORT AMOUNT OF DISTANCE. SO AGAIN, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THAT STANDARD IN THERE THAT EVERY HOME NEEDS TO OR EVERY RESIDENTIAL UNIT NEEDS TO BE WITHIN A FIVE MINUTE WALK OF A PARK AND OPEN SPACE AREA. OKAY, CAN I ASK? I WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT IN A DIFFERENT A DIFFERENT WAY. SO IF WE DO GET THAT DEVELOPMENT, BEHIND CVS AND THAT WHOLE SECTION AND I'M FINE WITH THE ONE CODE, I MEAN, THAT MAKES SENSE. INSTEAD OF TRYING TO HAVE TWO, TWO CODES FOR PARKLAND, WILL WILL THE GREEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS NEEDED FOR THOSE DEVELOPMENTS ARE THINGS LIKE ROSE RUN TWO ACCEPTABLE TO MEET FOR A NEW DEVELOPMENT COMING IN, OR DOES THAT DEVELOPMENT THEN HAVE TO MEET GREEN SPACE, NOT INCLUDING WHAT'S ALREADY THERE? BECAUSE YOU CLEARLY SAID WE'RE EXCEEDING, YOU KNOW, NATIONAL LEVELS AND GREEN SPACE. WE HAVE QUITE A BIT OF IT. BUT WILL THAT HAVE TO BE IN ADDITION TO THE, WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, IF WE HAVE SOME SORT OF A DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT'S GOING IN, MAYBE IN THOSE OPEN SPACES? IF I'M UNDERSTANDING YOUR QUESTION CORRECTLY, I THINK, YOU KNOW, IF A, IF A DEVELOPMENT WERE TO GO, YOU KNOW, BEHIND CVS OR ANYWHERE IN THE VILLAGE CENTER AND IT WAS YOU KNOW, SOME SORT OF RESIDENTIAL MIX WAS PROPOSED THERE, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY IN THE MARKET, BUT CERTAINLY AS THE CITY'S PERSPECTIVE, WE WOULD ENCOURAGE, YOU KNOW, SOME FORM OF OPEN AND ACTIVE SPACE, WHETHER IT BE, YOU KNOW, COURTYARD OR PATIO SPACE, WE WOULD NOT DISCOURAGE IT. WE WOULD WE WOULD ENCOURAGE IT. AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS PROBABLY ENCOURAGE THAT AS WELL, DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YEAH. THAT WAS MY CONCERN. YEAH. THAT THAT WE WOULDN'T HAVE THAT PIECE IN THERE WHERE I WOULD LIKE IT. AND I THINK THAT'S KIND OF WHAT COUNCILMAN FELLOWS WAS SAYING AS WELL. OKAY I THINK IT BECOMES MORE A MATTER OF WHAT THE URBAN CENTER CODE DESIGN. RIGHT. LIKE WHAT IS THE ULTIMATE. WE WANT TO STILL MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MEETING AND EXCEEDING THE NATIONAL STANDARDS FOR BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE PARK AND OPEN SPACE TO ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS, INCLUDING THE VILLAGE CENTER, WHICH WHICH COULD HAVE MORE DENSITY AND HAS ALWAYS BEEN CONTEMPLATED, BUT ALSO MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE EVALUATING PROJECTS, IN THE VILLAGE CENTER IN A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT WAY AND MAKING SURE THAT THOSE SPACES ARE PROVIDED IN A MORE DESIGNED WAY. AND THAT HAVE HAVE MORE MEANINGFUL APPLICATION TO THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE THERE. RIGHT. SO IT'S NOT JUST MEETING THIS PER SQUARE FOOT REQUIREMENT, BUT ARE WE CREATING COURTYARDS THAT HAVE, YOU KNOW, ACCESSIBILITY? ARE THEY OPEN TO THE PUBLIC? ARE THEY CONNECTING TO OTHER OPEN SPACES? ARE THERE OR IS THERE AN ENHANCEMENT OF SOME OF THESE LARGER AREAS, RIGHT, THAT ARE SHOWN WITHIN THAT HAVEN'T BEEN REALIZED YET? BECAUSE IN SOME WAYS WE HAVE THESE PARK ZONES, BUT HAVE THOSE AREAS BEEN DEDICATED TO THE CITY? DO THEY EXIST? ARE THEY PROTECTED? AND THEY, FORMALIZED AS PART OF THAT PLAN. SO THIS ALLOWS US, I THINK, THE FLEXIBILITY TO OBTAIN THE DESIGN AND ESTHETIC THAT WE WANT IN THE VILLAGE CENTER IN ORDER TO HAVE BETTER MARKETABILITY, BUT ALSO FROM A PRACTICAL STANDPOINT, APPLY THE CODE SECTION THAT'S RELEVANT RUNNING ROSE RUN ALL

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DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT THE TIPS OVER. CORRECT? CORRECT SO, FOR INSTANCE, THE STRAITS FARM TIFF, THE OXFORD, THE SCHLEPPY RESIDENTIAL AND THE VILLAGE CENTER TO TWO TIFF HAVE HISTORICALLY BEEN THE TIPS THAT WE HAVE LOANS FOR INFRASTRUCTURE FOR DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE HAVE.

AND SO WE PAY EVERYTHING OUT THAT WE HAVE OUT OF THOSE FUNDS EACH YEAR. OKAY THANKS. AND CERTAINLY WE KNOW WE MAKE EVERY EFFORT TO MAKE OUR TAX BUDGET AS A CAREFUL PREDICTION OF THE FUTURE, BUT IT'S JUST THAT, OUR IT'S NOT OUR FINAL BUDGET. IT IS NOT. IT IS, IT'S AN ESTIMATE, WITH THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY. OKAY. I THINK THERE WAS A COMMENT EARLIER TONIGHT ABOUT THE TAX BUDGET. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS CLEAR. YES OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS ON THE ORDINANCE THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND SET THAT FOR SECOND READING OR PUBLIC HEARING

[11. RESOLUTIONS AND PUBLIC HEARING]

VOTES TO ADOPT. RESOLUTION R 26 2024. RESOLUTION R 27 2024. A RESOLUTION TO REQUEST THE FRANKLIN COUNTY BUDGET COMMISSION TO GRANT THE .74 MILLS IN AVAILABLE INSIDE MILLAGE TO THE CITY OF NEW ALBANY. DIRECTOR STOTTS THANK YOU. THIS LEGISLATION IS A

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COUNCIL MEMBER. SHAW. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER WILTROUT. YES. MAYOR. SPALDING YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. BRISK. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. DEREK. YES COUNCIL MEMBER. BELLOWS. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. KISSED. YES. I HAVE SEVEN YES VOTES TO ADOPT. RESOLUTION R 27 2024. RESOLUTION R 28 2024. A RESOLUTION TO AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO A SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH THE NEW ALBANY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE FOR THE SUPPORT OF COMMUNITY EVENTS. YES. SO OVER THE YEARS, THE CITY HAS TAKEN SEVERAL DIFFERENT APPROACHES TO THE DELIVERY OF SPECIAL EVENTS WITHIN THE CITY. MOST RECENTLY, THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE HAVE MANAGED AND PRODUCED EVENTS SUCH AS THE 4TH OF JULY PARADE, THE 4TH OF JULY FESTIVAL, AND OCTOBER FEST ON THE CITY'S BEHALF. THIS IS AN AGREEMENT THAT MEMORIALIZES CERTAIN COMMITMENTS BETWEEN THE CITY AND CHAMBER. IT SETS EXPECTATIONS RELATED TO MARKETING, BUDGETING, HOW TO PROCESS PAYMENTS. AND IT ALSO AFFIRMS THE CITY'S ALCOHOL POLICY RELATED TO EVENTS, THIS IS A DOCUMENT THAT HAS A TERM THAT ENDS ON, ON, AT THE END OF 2025. SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING IN YOUR LEGISLATION, PAGE TWO OF THAT AGREEMENT, I WAS A YEAR AHEAD OF MYSELF. SO THAT'S A TYPO ON MY PART, SO IF THIS IS APPROVED TONIGHT, WE WILL MAKE THAT CHANGE BEFORE WE SIGN IT AND MAKE THAT TERM TO THE END OF 2025. AND WHILE THE TERM IS, GOES TO THAT TIME FRAME, WE ARE ONLY LOCKED INTO EVENTS AND BUDGETS FOR 2024. THE AGREEMENT SAYS THAT THE CITY, AT THE END OF THE YEAR WILL USE ITS ANNUAL ANNUAL OPERATING BUDGETING PROCESS TO DETERMINE WHICH EVENTS, THEY WANT TO TAKE PLACE NEXT YEAR AND WHAT THOSE BUDGETS WILL BE AND WILL COLLABORATE WITH THE CHAMBER ABOUT THAT, THE CITY STAFF AND CHAMBER HAVE COMMITTED TO INCREASE COLLABORATION IN, AT THE END OF 2024 TO REVIEW, THE SUCCESS OF EVENTS AND TO PLAN FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR. UNFORTUNATELY, THE CHAMBER DIRECTOR WAS ON, HAD A COMMITMENT AND WAS UNAVAILABLE TO COME TO THE MEETING TONIGHT.

BUT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE OR CONVEY ANY FEEDBACK BACK TO THE CHAMBER AS WELL. MAYOR, I, THIS IS THE RESOLUTION THAT I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT WE TABLE, SHERRY NELSON WAS NOT AVAILABLE TO BE HERE TONIGHT TO ANSWER QUESTIONS REGARDING THE AGREEMENT. AND I BELIEVE SHE HAS AGREED TO. COME ON A NEW DATE. IS THAT CORRECT? I HAVE NOT CONFIRMED A NEW DATE WITH HER. WE HAVE NOT CONFIRMED THE NEW DATE YET. OKAY, WELL, I, I WOULD PREFER THAT WE TABLE THIS MOTION UNTIL WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK HER SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE AGREEMENT.

AND JUST TO CLARIFY, THE CURRENT AGREEMENT, IT GOES THROUGH THE END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR. WE DO NOT HAVE AN AGREEMENT IN PLACE CURRENTLY. WE DO NOT HAVE, SO REALLY THIS, THIS ASSIST SETS EXPECTATION AND IT HELPS THE CITY ON THE BUSINESS SIDE OF THE EVENTS TO OPERATE A LITTLE MORE EFFICIENTLY WITH THE CHAMBER. I APOLOGIZE. ALL RIGHT. I JUST MAYBE I READ THAT WRONG. SO IF WE ENTER INTO THE AGREEMENT, IT'LL BE FOR A FULL UP THROUGH DECEMBER OF 2025. THAT'S CORRECT. THE CURRENT BUDGET'S BEEN APPROVED FOR THIS YEAR. GOT IT. ALL RIGHT. COUNCILWOMAN BRISK, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? YES I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT. WE TABLE RESOLUTION.

ASIAN. DON'T KNOW WHAT NUMBER EIGHT, 28, 28 ARE 28, 20, 24, UNTIL SUCH TIME AS WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE, REPRESENTATIVE ON BEHALF OF THE CHAMBER HERE TO DISCUSS THE TERMS OF THE AGREEMENT, WE SHOULD, FOR PROCEDURAL PURPOSES, PICK A DATE, WE TABLED TO A DATE CERTAIN PER COUNCIL RULES, ANYTHING ELSE? TABLING DEFINITELY WOULD KILL IT. SO IF WE CAN JUST PICK THE NEXT DATE. AND IF THAT FAILS, WE CAN RESCHEDULE AGAIN TO A DATE.

OKAY, WELL, I, I WILL I'LL, I'LL RESTATE THAT MOTION. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE TABLE DISCUSSION AND VOTING ON RESOLUTION R 28 2024 UNTIL THE JULY SECOND CITY COUNCIL MEETING. THANK YOU. I'LL

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YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. PHELAN'S. YES COUNCIL MEMBER. KIST. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. WILTROUT. YES.

MAYOR SPALDING. YES. I HAVE SEVEN YES. VOTES TO TABLE. RESOLUTION R 2028 TO THE JULY 2ND REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. RESOLUTION R 29 2024. A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO AMEND THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK CONTRACT FOR THE ROSELAND TWO PROJECT DIRECTOR, JOHN THANK YOU. SO THERE ARE TWO MAIN DRIVERS BEHIND THIS LEGISLATION.

ONE IS BUILDING UPON THE VETERANS MEMORIAL UPDATE THAT YOU HEARD EARLIER TONIGHT. THE SECOND ONE IS SOME SPACE PLANNING THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS DONE RECENTLY, TO PLAN FOR A POSSIBLE EXPANSION OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WITHIN THE CIVIC BLOCK OF THE ROSE RUN TWO PROJECT, SO WE DO HAVE A CURRENT CMR CONTRACT IN PLACE WITH MESSER. AND WHEN WE WENT ON OUR PAUSE IN THE FALL, WE SUSPENDED THAT CONTRACT FOR THE TIME BEING. GIVEN THAT THE PROJECT PARAMETERS HAVE CHANGED. WE WORK WITH LEGAL COUNSEL, TO UNDERSTAND THE BEST APPROACH TO AMEND THE CONTRACT TO REFLECT WHAT WE THOUGHT THIS NEW PROJECT WAS GOING TO BE, AND SO THIS RESOLUTION WOULD UPDATE A COUPLE OF PORTIONS OF THE CONTRACT, ONE BEING THE SECTION THAT, THAT DESCRIBES THE PROGRAMMATIC ELEMENTS OF THE PROJECT, SO THAT WOULD JUST INCLUDE WHAT WE KNOW THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO INCLUDE, AT THIS POINT. SO THAT'S DUBLIN-GRANVILLE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS. THAT'S A VETERANS MEMORIAL, A PARKING LOT STREAM ENHANCEMENTS, POTENTIAL BUILDING EXPANSION TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. AND THEN THE SECOND PHASE OF THE ROSE RUN PARK EXTENSION, AND ALSO WILL ADD IN AN ARCHITECT TO THE CONTRACT BECAUSE THE BUILDING EXPANSION IS USING THE HORNED KING KIM KING KING ARCHITECTURE FIRM FOR THAT PROJECT, THIS WILL UPDATE THE CONTRACT THAT THIS WILL ALLOW US TO PROCEED WITH PLANNING FOR THE PARK EXPANSION AND FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. AND AGAIN, THE CMR CONTRACT IS A TWO PART CONTRACT. SO WE PAY FOR PRE CONSTRUCTION SERVICES THAT ALLOWS THE CMR TO SIT IN ON DESIGN MEETINGS, PROVIDE COST ESTIMATES TO THE CITY AS THE PLANS PROGRESS AND THEN WE WOULD BRING A GMP WHICH IS A GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE AMENDMENT TO COUNCIL. ONCE WE HAVE 100% DRAWINGS AND WE KNOW WHAT THE COST IS GOING TO BE AND THEN COUNCIL HAS THE ABILITY TO APPROVE, THE GMP AT THAT TIME.

SO NOW THAT WE HAVE A NEW DIRECTION IN TERMS OF THE VETERANS MEMORIAL AND THE EXPANSION OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WHAT'S THE TIMELINE BEFORE THAT, YOU PROJECT WOULD BE BEFORE ALL THIS GETS STARTED. SO WE HAVE A SHOVEL IN THE GROUND. YEAH, I THINK THAT DEPENDS. I THINK WE NEED TO REGROUP WITH OUR DESIGN TEAMS AND CONSTRUCTION TEAMS AND REALLY UNDERSTAND THE SCOPE OF WHAT THE PROJECT IS GOING TO BE. THE BIGGEST, UNKNOWN FACTOR FOR US AT THIS TIME IS THE AREA BETWEEN DUBLIN-GRANVILLE ROAD AND THE CREEK, BECAUSE WE WEREN'T PLANNING FOR ANY PARK IMPROVEMENTS IN THAT AREA, BEFORE WAR. SO WE REALLY HAVE TO SIT DOWN WITH MXQ TO THINK THROUGH WHAT THE PARK LOOKS LIKE THERE. AND THEN I THINK ONCE WE KNOW WHAT THAT CONSISTS OF, WE'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF THE TIMING. HAVE WE GIVEN ANY THOUGHT WHEN I TALKED TO JOE ABOUT THIS, REGARDING THE OLD GAS STATION AND THE OLD POLICE STATION, ONCE WE TAKE OWNERSHIP OF THAT, IS IT POSSIBLE THAT WE COULD GET THOSE TORN DOWN AND SEEDED GRASS SEEDED, YOU KNOW, JUST AND MAKE THAT MORE OF A GREEN SPACE AND HAVING THOSE OLD BUILDINGS SITTING THERE WHILE, YOU KNOW, BY THE FALL SO THAT WE JUST THEY'RE MORE PREPARED FOR FUTURE WORK AND WE DON'T HAVE TO LOOK AT THOSE BUILDINGS. IS THAT A REASONABLE REQUEST TO GET THOSE THINGS TORN OUT OF THERE? THE WELL, THE OLD POLICE STATION IS STILL IN USE AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S MUCH OF AN EYESORE. I MEAN, YES, AND IT COULD SERVE THE PURPOSE, COULD POTENTIALLY STILL BE USED. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYBODY IN THERE. THE CLIENT MOVED OUT. NO, IT'S THE NEW DRIVING DRIVING SCHOOLS IN THERE NOW. IT'S THE RELOCATED DRIVING SCHOOL. IT DOESN'T. THEY'RE BUILDING THEY MOVED THAT PLACE TORN DOWN. SO YEAH. THREE FOR THREE THE WIDOWMAKER. NOTHING PERSONAL HAPPENS. A GAS STATION THERE. IT'S QUITE AN EYESORE.

YEAH I THINK IT WOULD. I THINK WE COULD TEAR DOWN THE REMAINDER OF THE GAS STATION PRETTY QUICKLY. THE FORMER POLICE STATION COULD POTENTIALLY BE REPURPOSED ON A SHORT TERM BASIS. WHILE WE DO WORK, ASSUMING THAT WE'RE GOING TO EXPAND THE CURRENT POLICE

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SOMETHING HAPPENED TO THE SIGNS. I GUESS WE LOST HOPE. NO, NO NO, NO. DO WE DO. WE FADED OVER TIME. YEAH TO THAT, TO THAT. AND DO WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR ANY KIND OF PAPERWORK OR AGREEMENT OR CONTRACT FOR THE RECEIPT OF THE LAND FROM WEXNER? YEAH AND SO WE CAN'T REALLY TOUCH IT TILL THEN.

YEAH. I THINK WE PROBABLY HAVE TO GO THROUGH IT AND GET A DEMOLITION. EVEN THOUGH IT'S THE CITY, WE STILL HAVE TO GET DEMOLITION PERMIT FOR THE WAREHOUSE AND FOR THE, YEAH, THE WAREHOUSE SHOULD GO AS FAST AS YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BEFORE IT FALLS DOWN IN STANDARDS, TOO.

WE JUST APPROVED. IT WOULD JUST BE. I'M SURE THAT BREWDOG WILL BE UPSET TO LOSE THEIR PARKING SPACE FOR SURE. YEAH, BUT, YOU KNOW, TO GET THE GAS STATION DOWN WOULD BE OKAY. IMPROVE THE ESTHETICS OF OUR VILLAGE CENTER. OKAY. I'M SORRY. I'M JUST TRYING . ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE RESOLUTION? WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC LIKE TO SPEAK REGARDING RESOLUTION NUMBER 29, 2024? HEARS NO PUBLIC COMMENT. WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. AND I WOULD MOVE FOR THE ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION R 29, 2024 SECOND. MAYOR. SPALDING. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER BRESKE. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. WELCH. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. SCHULTZ. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. CHRIS. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. FEATHERS. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. DETRICK. YES SEVEN. YES.

VOTES TO ADOPT RESOLUTION R 29 2024. COUNCIL SUBCOMMITTEE REPORTS ARE THERE ANY

[13. REPORTS OF REPRESENTATIVES]

ALSO, SHE SAID THAT THERE WILL BE APPROXIMATELY 500 MILES OF SIDEWALK AND LEISURE TRAIL INCLUDED, THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY APPROXIMATELY 300 PROJECTS, THAT HAVE BEEN PROPOSED SHOULD THIS THIS PARTICULAR, HALF CENT LEVY BE APPROVED, AND NEW ALBANY, I BELIEVE, HAS AT LEAST TWO, PROJECTS THAT ARE ON THAT LIST AND A COUPLE OF MEMBERS OF OUR STAFF HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THOSE IN THOSE MEETINGS, MARK RECEIVED AN UNQUALIFIED AUDIT FROM THE STATE AUDITOR, SO GIVEN ALL OF THE, FEDERAL GRANTS THAT THEY THAT THEY, PARTICIPATE IN AND THE COMPLEXITY OF THE PROGRAMS THAT THEY ADMINISTER, THAT'S A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT FEAT. AND THEY'VE HAD UNQUALIFIED OPINIONS FOR YEARS, SO THEY WERE, THAT WAS APPRECIATED BY THE MEMBERS. THERE WAS A REPORT ON RAPID FIVE, THERE'S A THEY APPROVED A GREENWAYS PLANNING STUDIO, ENGAGEMENT WITH MORSI. SO MORSI WILL BE WORKING WITH RAPID FIVE ON A, BASICALLY A PLANNING ENGAGEMENT TO FACILITATE THE REGIONAL PLANS FOR THE GREENWAYS , THE ARMOUR-STINER AND STEPHANIE HIGHTOWER ARE CO-CHAIRING AN EQUITABLE TRANSIT GROUP, THAT REPORT IS READY FOR OR WILL BE READY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AT THE END OF THIS MONTH. IF ANYONE IN THE COMMUNITY WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON THAT, THERE IS A SAFE STREETS FOR ALL GRANTS, THAT MORSI IS FACILITATING, AND THAT HAS ABOUT $780 MILLION AVAILABLE FOR THAT.

THERE WAS A LONG MEETING, THE, FEE SCHEDULE FOR, FOR 2025 WAS ADOPTED AND THAT, COST WILL BE

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WELL, NOT MUCH, NOT MUCH GOING ON IN ANY UPDATE FROM THE JOINT PERKS? YES. JUST A REAL QUICK ONE. JUST TO GIVE EVERYBODY AN UPDATE ON THE PICKLEBALL TOURNAMENT THAT THEY ARE, RUNNING OUT THERE, CURRENTLY WE HAVE ABOUT 26 CITIES THAT ARE BEING REPRESENTED IN THE TOURNAMENT, ALMOST 100 PLAYERS AND TWO STATES THAT HAVE SIGNED UP. THERE'S STILL PLENTY OF TIME TO SIGN UP. ANOTHER, PROBABLY 2 OR 3 WEEKS IF YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT GOING. BUT SO FAR SO GOOD.

THEY'VE GOT ABOUT FIVE SPONSORS, RIGHT, AS WELL. SO IT SEEMS LIKE, THINGS ARE ON THE RIGHT TRACK FOR THE, FOR THE TOURNAMENT. THAT'S AWESOME. ALL RIGHT, ANY UPDATE FROM NEW ALBANY PLAYING LOCAL SCHOOLS, YES. THERE WAS A MEETING LAST MONDAY, AND COUNCIL MEMBER DIRK, ATTENDED, AND I THINK SOME FOLKS TUNED IN ONLINE AND, I'M NOT GOING TO, GO IN TOO MUCH DETAIL BECAUSE JOE SENT OUT A NICE SUMMARY, IN HIS WEEKLY RECAP. AND, HE ALSO INCLUDED THE SLIDE DECK THAT THEY PRESENTED THE FACILITIES MASTER PLAN, VERY THOROUGHLY, THEIR ARCHITECT PRESENTED, I THINK THEY'RE ALL THE WAY UP THROUGH OUR LINE ITEMS, SOME OF THEM ARE PROJECTS THAT ARE RELATED TO THE GROWTH, THAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING, NEW BUILDINGS, ADDITIONS TO THE PRIMARY SCHOOL. AND THEN A LOT OF THESE PROJECTS, THAT THEY INCLUDED LINE ITEMS ARE, PROJECTS THAT ARE PROBABLY NEEDED TO HAPPEN FOR A LONG TIME, THAT THEY FINALLY CATEGORIZED AND INCLUDED IN A COMPREHENSIVE, FACILITIES MASTER PLAN, INCLUDING ATHLETIC FACILITIES, TEARING DOWN THE ANNEX BUILDING, THE CONNECTOR BUS LOOP. SO BASICALLY, IT WAS A LIST THAT HAD EVERYTHING INCLUSIVE OF GROWTH. AND, PROJECTS NEED TO BE DONE. AND I THINK THE TOTAL TALLY WAS $176 MILLION, SO CLEARLY IT WAS A CATCH ALL. THIS IS EVERYTHING THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO NOW. AND NOW THEY'RE GOING TO KIND OF GO BACK THROUGH AND, VET THE ITEMS AND PRIORITIZE THEM, THEY WANT TO GET THEM OUT THERE, SO LIKE I SAID, JOE HAD SENT THE, THE LINK TO THAT PRESENTATION IS IN THERE. SO IF YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH AND PERUSE ALL THE, THE LINE ITEMS, AND THEN THEY MOVED ON TO, KIND OF THE FINANCIAL IMPLICATIONS OF HAMILTON QUARTER AND KIND OF SUMMARIZE THE TAX REVENUE THAT WOULD BE GAINED, IF THEY MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT PROJECT, THEY STILL DIDN'T MAKE A DECISION. AND IN SOME OF MY CONVERSATIONS AND, WITH FOLKS ON COUNCIL, THERE MAY BE A DEVELOPMENT IN THE HAMILTON QUARTER PROJECT THAT, POTENTIALLY REPORT ON AT NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. OKAY. AND THEN, I WOULD ASK FOR AN UPDATE FROM THE TOWNSHIP, BUT MAYBE WE JUST GOT I THINK I WAS GOING TO SAY I THINK WE HEARD IT IN THE OPENING

[14. REPORTS OF CITY OFFICIALS]

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LAST YEAR I ENDED UP WITH A CART THAT DID NOT HAVE A ROOF ON. OR WE'RE GOING TO HAVE CARTS BECAUSE I SPECIFIED ROOFS FOR EVERY CART. IT'S IN THE CONTRACT. OKAY, GOOD. AND IS IT A FOUR SEATER OR SIX SEATER? I GOT A COMBINATION OF TWOS AND FOURS. SO JUST GOT TO GET MARLENE. ONLY GETS HALF A TANK OF GAS. OH, AND 200 POUNDS OF CANDY. SO THAT'S COMING AS WELL.

PER CART. MY PLAN THIS TIME AROUND IS TO GIVE YOU ALL THE CANDY THAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET AT THE BEGINNING. SUPPOSED TO BE SOME EXTRA BUCKETS. YEAH GOING TO LOAD THEM IN, YOU KNOW, CROWD THEM AROUND YOUR FEET. BUT YOU YOU WILL SEE WHAT YOU HAVE FOR THE ENTIRE PARADE AND THEN CAN BUDGET ACCORDINGLY. NO RUNNING BACK FOR REFILLS. THAT'S A GOOD POINT. BUDGET ACCORDINGLY. YEAH.

WE'LL JUST KNOCK EACH OTHER OFF THE ROAD AND TAKE. ANY HIGHWAY HIGHWAY ROBBERY. BECAUSE I THINK IT'S JUST YOU GUYS AND THE CARTS. IF YOU WANT WALKERS, JUST DON'T RUN OVER THEIR TOES. YEAH.

I MEAN, BECAUSE IT IS IF YOU WANT, FOLKS, IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'RE BUZZING AROUND AND HELP HAND OUT CANDY. YEAH, YOU CAN HAVE WALKERS WALK BY YOU WITH BUCKETS. AND WE'LL WE'LL DISCUSS WHAT SHIRTS YOU WANT WHEN WE GET CLOSER. WE KNOW THE WEATHER. THANK YOU. OKAY THAT'S IT FROM CLERK. ALL RIGHT. ANY UPDATE FROM THE FINANCE DIRECTOR? NO FURTHER REPORT. ALL RIGHT. CITY MANAGER. NO CITY ATTORNEY. PLEASED REPORT. I HAVE NO REPORT . PULL FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. ALL

[16. POLL FOR COUNCIL COMMENT]

[02:55:04]

RIGHT, RIGHT. AND IT'S A KIND OF IT'S A LOOP, THAT COMES BACK TO DEAN FARM ROAD, AND IT'S ALL GREEN SPACE WITHIN THAT LOOP. AND THERE'S HOMES THAT ARE ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE, AND IT'S, THERE'S TWO THERE'S TWO CURVES REALLY THAT NEED TO BE UPDATED. AND THE HOA IS, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE INVESTED A LOT OF MONEY IN MAKING THE COMMUNITY LOOK NICE, BUT THEY DON'T OWN THAT LAND. AND THEY WOULD LIKE FOR IT TO BE MORE IN LINE WITH WHAT THE WHAT IS THE REQUEST COMING FROM THE HOA? PRETTY MUCH THE HOA IS ASKING IF THE CITY IS GOING TO UPDATE THAT AREA. SO IT LOOKS LIKE THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY AND WE HAVE NO OBJECTION TO TAKING THE SHRUBBERY OUT. WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT COUNCIL IS AWARE THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. IT IS WITHIN OUR AREA OF RESPONSIBILITY TO MAINTAIN, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A POTENTIAL CONFLICT HERE. SO IS OUR GOAL TO TAKE OUT THE SHRUBS AND REPLANT SOMETHING ELSE OR JUST MAKE IT GREEN SPACE. NOW, PROBABLY JUST REPLACE IT WITH GRASS TO MAKE IT CONSISTENT WITH THE REST OF THE SUBDIVISION. I SOME RESIDENTS I WONDER IF THE RESIDENTS WHAT THE RESIDENTS FEEL ABOUT THAT. IF YOU HAVE SOME, I WOULD HAVE THE INVESTMENT COME IN OR SOMEBODY I THINK THAT, YEAH, I THINK, YOU KNOW, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH IT. WE CAN MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO BE GREAT, BUT WE NEED SOME DIRECTION. IS THERE ANY WAY THAT THE HOA COULD COULD SAY WE'D LIKE A, B AND C TO OCCUR. YEAH. OR I MEAN CAN WE GIVE IT'S STILL TRICIA. THEY'RE JUST ASKING CAN THE CITY DO SOMETHING BECAUSE WE'RE INVESTING MONEY TO MAKE THE COMMUNITY LOOK BETTER. AND WE DON'T KNOW. WE OWN THAT LAND OR THAT WE WOULD DO SOMETHING IT SOUNDS LIKE. BUT BETTER IS SUBJECTIVE IS THE POINT. AND IF YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO LIVE RIGHT THERE THAT LIKE IT JUST THE WAY IT IS, THEN I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DECIDE WHAT'S BETTER UNLESS WE MAKE A DECISION THAT IS A CITY, WE'RE JUST GOING TO DO WHAT WE THINK IS BEST BECAUSE WE OWN THE PROPERTY AND DO IT. WE COULD DO THAT. BUT ONE NEIGHBOR THERE THAT SAID THAT THEY, BECAUSE THE SHRUB IS SO HIGH, THEY LIKE IT.

THEY USE IT AS SCREENING. YEAH. SCREENING FOR WHAT? I DON'T KNOW. BUT THAT'S WHAT MIKE TOLD ME. SO I'M NOT REAL SURE. MIKE, YOU'RE AWARE YOU'RE AWARE OF THE LOCATION IN THIS SITUATION. WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE OVER THERE? YES. DOES IT LOOK LIKE IT'S NOT THE STANDARDS THAT WE WOULD DO AS A CITY? NORMALLY I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE SHRUBS IN THE RIGHT OF WAY BY CURB RAMPS LIKE THIS IS CERTAINLY A KIND OF A ONE OFF SITUATION THAT JUST DOESN'T EXIST ANYWHERE ELSE, REALLY. SO IT'S DEFINITELY A UNIQUE SITUATION. IF YOU GO FURTHER DOWN DEAN FARM ROAD TO MAYNARD, THE HOA HAS INVESTED SOME MONEY IN THE CURBS THERE WITH DIFFERENT YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE CORE BELL AND HOSTAS AND BOXWOODS JUST TO MAKE IT TO MAKE IT UNIFORM WITH THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. YEAH. I THINK IT WOULD BE NICE IF WE OFFER TO GIVE THEM A CLEAN SLATE AND WE CAN CLEAR WHAT'S THERE. AND IF THEY WANT THEIR LANDSCAPING COMPANY TO GO IN. AND YEAH, MAKE IT UNIFORM WITH THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY, THEN THAT'S I DON'T HAVE I LIKE THAT TOO. THAT.

YEAH. YOU TAKE IT OUT. I AM LOOKING AT THE SHRUBS HERE ON GOOGLE IMAGES. I THINK THEY LOOK LIKE EVERGREEN TREES. THEY THEY SHRUBS, THEY'RE PRETTY. THEY'RE PRETTY BAD. LIKE, IF WE DON'T TAKE THEM OUT, I THINK I DON'T I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE SHIELDING, BUT ONE AT A TIME.

FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. I THINK THE SHRUBS I WOULD, I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF STARTING OVER WITH GRASS AND TAKING OUT THE SHRUBS, I THINK. YEAH, I WHAT'S THAT? HOW TALL ARE THESE SHRUB. THEY, THEY, THEY DO. ONE SIDE IS DEFINITELY BEEN MORE ACTIVELY MAINTAINED I WOULD SAY BY THE

[03:00:03]

YEAH. AND MAYBE AS WE DO WITH ANY REZONING, NOTIFICATIONS OR ANYTHING, MAYBE WE NOTIFY THE NEIGHBORS THAT ARE KIND OF ON THAT TURN TOO, THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING IT AT WHATEVER TIME. YEAH, I CAN DO THAT. AND WE PROVIDED NOTICE BEFORE WE WERE OUT THERE JUST TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE HAD AN IDEA OF WHY WE WERE OUT THERE AND, YOU KNOW, HOW LONG WE'D BE OUT THERE SO WE CAN WE CAN FOLLOW UP WITH THAT. WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, YOU'RE LIKE, WHAT'S THE ISSUE? BUT ALL RIGHT, SO PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE USED TO WHAT THEY HAVE, RIGHT? THEY DON'T. SO YEAH , AND IS THAT IT ON THAT ONE SHOW THAT'S ON. OKAY. THANKS. JUST A QUICK UPDATE, TOMORROW MORNING, JOE, MYSELF, WE'VE GOT SOME FOLKS FROM GRANVILLE COMING OVER A TRUSTEE, A COUNCIL MEMBER AND THEIR CITY MANAGER. JUST KIND OF MEET AND GREET, KIND OF OPEN UP LINES OF COMMUNICATION, MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S KIND OF ON THE SAME PAGE. AND I THINK, FROM A FAMILIARITY WILL BE GOOD FOR BOTH SIDES. SO, WE CAN REPORT BACK AND SEE HOW THAT GOES, BUT, THAT'S TOMORROW MORNING AT 830.

THANKS ALL RIGHT. ANY ADDITIONAL COUNCIL COMMENT? AND I MOVE THAT WE ADJOURN TO EXECUTIVE SESSION

[17. EXECUTIVE SESSION]

THERE IS A FEW. THE AFTERNOON GROUP CAME IN READY TO GO. THEY WERE REALLY PACKED. A LOT OF PUNCHES. YEAH, FIRED AND READY. YEAH. SO THANK YOU FOR ALL THE STAFF THAT WAS INVOLVED IN THAT.

THEY REALLY LOVED, I KNOW THAT YOU KNOW COUNCIL ALWAYS ENJOYS ATTENDING THOSE, GRADUATION CEREMONIES. SO WE'LL JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE DISTRIBUTE THE INVITATION TO EVERYBODY WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY COME UP NEXT FRIDAY JUST TO GIVE EVERYBODY A HEADS UP. IT'S NEXT FRIDAY THE 28TH. DON'T BE LATE. COUNCIL MEMBER FATLOSS, I BELIEVE, IS DOING THE OFFICIATING. AM I DOING ALL THE OFFICIATING OR IS THERE JUST DOES ANYBODY ELSE JOINING ME FOR THAT YOU'RE THERE OR ARE YOU COMING NEXT WEEK, NEXT FRIDAY, NEXT FRIDAY, I WILL SAY UNLIKE, PREVIOUS TIMES, CHIP, THE, THE SCRIPT WAS, SHORTENED OR LIKE THERE PASSED OUT MORE. YEAH. BECAUSE TYPICALLY SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE WOULD ALL SAY WAS, FIRE DEPARTMENT WAS TALKING ABOUT THE GOLF OUTING. I MEAN, THEY, THEY SPLIT UP. SO IT'S REALLY TWO SLIDES. SO YOU JUST I'LL DO IT.

IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO COME AND JOIN ME, PLEASE DO. YEAH. IT'S A GOOD TIME. AND I'LL COME UP

[03:05:04]

YEP OKAY. JUNE 28TH AT 1230. IS WHAT SHE'S GOT ON THIS MESSAGE OKAY, GREAT. ALL RIGHT, THEN I MOVE THAT WE ADJOURN TO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO NEW ALBANY CHARTER SECTION 4.03, FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PURPOSES, PURSUANT TO OHIO REVISED CODE ONE 2120 2G2 TO CONSIDER THE PURCHASE OF PROPERTY FOR PUBLIC PURPOSE, A PREMATURE DISCLOSURE OF INFORMATION WOULD GIVE AN UNFAIR COMPETITIVE OR BARGAINING ADVANTAGE TO A PERSON WHOSE PERSONAL PRIVATE INTEREST IS ADVERSE TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC AND PURSUANT TO OHIO REVISED CODE ONE 2120 2G1 FOR DISCUSSION REGARDING APPOINTMENT, EMPLOYMENT, DISMISSAL, PROMOTION, DEMOTION, OR COMPENSATION OF A PUBLIC EMPLOYEE. SECOND, MAYOR SPALDING . YES. COUNCIL MEMBER WILTROUT. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER SHAW. YES COUNCIL MEMBER. KISS. YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER. FEATHERS YES. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. DEREK. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. BRISK. YES. I HAVE SEVEN YES VOTES TO GO INTO. EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 9:47 P.M. FOR VOTES. WATCHING THE STREAM LIVE, WE ARE GOING TO TURN OFF THE SOUND, BUT THE VIDEO WILL CONTINUE TO RUN AND WE WILL COME BACK WHEN IT'S READY TO RESUME THE REGULAR SESSION. DO WE PLAN ANY ACTION AFTERWARDS? WE DO NOT AT THIS TIME PLAN

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.