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631. WHY DON'T YOU KICK OFF HERE? I'D LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER THE JUNE 24TH, 2024 BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS MEETING. PLEASE HAVE THE ROLL CALL FROM THE CLERK. PLEASE MR. PRESIDENT. MR. SHELL, PRESENT. MR. JACOB. PRESENT. MISS SAMUELS. PRESENT MR. SMITH, COUNCIL MEMBER. SHULL HERE. WE HAVE FOUR VOTING MEMBERS PRESENT. WE HAVE A QUORUM. THANK YOU, THE NEXT ITEM
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ON OUR AGENDA IS ACTION ON OUR MINUTES FROM. IT WAS MAY 29TH. MR. CHAIR, I'D JUST LIKE TO NOTE AND APOLOGIZE FOR THE MISSPELLING OF YOUR NAME IN THE MINUTES. AND I HAVE CORRECTED THE ELECTRONIC. IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME. YES, THANKS. I'M USED TO THAT. IS THERE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES FROM LAST MEETING? MR. CHAIR, WITH THE CORRECTION OF YOUR NAME AND THE MINUTES, I MOVED TO A APPROVE, BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS MINUTES FOR MAY 29TH, 2024. I'LL SECOND THAT, MR. JACOB. YES MR. JONES? YES. MR. SHELL? YES MISS. SAMUELS? YES. THE MOTION PASSES WITH FOUR VOTES TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS CORRECTED. OKAY. THANK YOU, DO WE HAVE ANY VISITORS THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TONIGHT? OKAY. WE HAVE TO SWEAR YOU IN. SO CAN YOU STAND UP AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND? OKAY DO I KNOW YOU? ARE YOU. ARE YOU SAYING ANYTHING AT THE MIC? YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. YES. OKAY DO YOU BOTH SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO THANK YOU. OKAY, WE HAVE THREE CASES TO DISCUSS TONIGHT. THE FIRST CASE IS VARIANCE 30 DASH[VI. Cases]
202 FOR THE VARIANCE TO CODIFY ORDINANCE 1171 DASH OR .01 TO ALLOW THE USE OF ARTIFICIAL TURF. GRASS WITHIN A PORTION OF THE BACKYARD AT 29, WILL, WILL COME WHERE CODE REQUIRES LIVING TURFGRASS. SO CAN WE HEAR THE STAFF REPORT? GOOD EVENING. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN THE NEW ALBANY COUNTRY CLUB, SECTION SIX, AND CONTAINS A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HOME. THE HOME IS EAST OF HARLEM ROAD AND SOUTHEAST OF EAST DUBLIN. GRANVILLE ROAD. THE APPLICANTS VARIANCE REQUEST IS SPECIFICALLY TO ALLOW ARTIFICIAL TURF, GRASS AND A PORTION OF THE REAR IN THE CHILDREN'S PLAY AREA. IT IS NORTH OF THE PROPERTY AS HIGHLIGHTED HERE, THERE YOU GO.THE APPLICATION WAS TABLED IN MAY BECAUSE THE PROPERTY OWNER DID NOT ATTEND THE MEETING.
THERE ARE NO CHANGES TO THE STAFF REPORT OR THE APPLICATION. AT THE LAST MEETING, THERE WAS A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE ORIGIN OF THE VARIANCE. A NEIGHBOR CONTACTED CITY STAFF ABOUT PONDING IN THE BACK IN THEIR BACKYARD. AFTER A THOROUGH INVESTIGATION, CITY STAFF COULDN'T FIND EVIDENCE THAT THE ARTIFICIAL TURF GRASS IMPACTS THE STORMWATER RUNOFF AND THEREFORE THIS IS A PRIVATE PROPERTY DISPUTE. HOWEVER DURING THE INVESTIGATION, THE CITY STAFF FOUND THE ARTIFICIAL TURF GRASS AND NOTIFIED THE PROPERTY OWNER THAT THIS VARIANCE REQUEST IS NECESSARY TO ALLOW IT TO REMAIN. IT APPEARS THE VARIANCE IS NOT SUBSTANTIAL BECAUSE THE ARTIFICIAL TURF GRASS MAKES UP ONLY 5% OF THE ENTIRE PROPERTY, IT IS NOT BEING USED TO REPLACE OTHER AREAS OF THE YARD. THE REMAINDER OF THE BACKYARD CONSISTS OF PUTTING GREEN, A PUTTING GREEN POOL, POOL HOUSE, AND NATURAL GRASS. THE ESSENTIAL CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS NOT SUBSTANTIALLY ALTERED BECAUSE THE ARTIFICIAL TURF GRASS IS SCREENED FROM THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY BY USING LANDSCAPE. ALSO, THE VARIANCE PRESERVES THE SPIRIT AND INTENT OF THE ZONING REQUIREMENTS. BECAUSE THE ALTERNATIVE SURFACE MATERIAL IS SIMILAR TO OTHER PLAYGROUNDS IN THE CITY, THERE ARE FEW PLAYGROUNDS WITHIN THE CITY THAT USE ALTERNATIVE MATERIAL TO LIVING GRASS. ACCORDING TO THE APPLICANT, THE PURPOSE OF THE ARTIFICIAL TURF GRASS IS TO MAINTAIN A CONSISTENT APPEARANCE OF THE GRASS. HISTORICALLY, THE CITY BOARD AND COMMISSIONS HAVE APPROVED SIMILAR VARIANCES TO THIS PROJECT. IN 2020, THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVED A VARIANCE TO ALLOW ARTIFICIAL TURF GRASS AROUND A COMMUNITY POOL AND A ROUND OF RESIDENTIAL POOL. IN 2024, THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS APPROVED A VARIANCE FOR ARTIFICIAL TURF GRASS AROUND A CHILDREN'S PLAY AREA AT A CHURCH. THE USE OF ARTIFICIAL TURF GRASS APPEARS TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED VARIANCES, SINCE IT IS BEING UTILIZED AS AN ALTERNATIVE SURFACE MATERIAL FOR AN ACTIVE PLAY AREA. THE
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ARTIFICIAL TURF GRASS IN THIS CASE DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE SUBSTANTIAL DUE TO ITS LIMITED SIZE AND LOCATION WITHIN THE BACKYARD, AND AT THIS TIME CITY STAFF WILL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.YOUR MOTION TO ACCEPT. I'M SORRY, IS THERE A MOTION TO ACCEPT? STAFF REPORTED TO RECORD SO MOVE. SECOND, MISS SAMUELS. YES. MR. JACOB? YES. MR. JONES YES. MR. SHELL? YES. MOTION PASSES WITH FOUR VOTES. THE DOCUMENTS ARE ADMITTED INTO THE RECORD. OKAY THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANYONE? HAVE A COUPLE? YEAH, YEAH, JUST A COUPLE REAL QUICK, HAVE WE HEARD ANYTHING MORE FROM THE NEIGHBORS ? SO THE ORIGINAL CALL THAT WE GOT WAS FROM A PREVIOUS PROPERTY OWNER. SO SINCE THE TIME THE VARIANCE HAS BEEN REQUESTED, THE NEIGHBOR THAT CALLED IN ABOUT THE CONCERNS FOR THE PONDING HAS SINCE SOLD THE HOUSE TO A NEW PROPERTY OWNER. THE NEW PROPERTY OWNER DID CALL AND ASKED ABOUT THE VARIANCE REQUEST, THEY DID ASK ABOUT, IF THERE WAS ANY SCREENING REQUIRED, FOR THE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT. STAFF TOLD THEM THAT THERE WAS NO SCREENING REQUIRED FOR THIS, AND THAT IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST ANY THAT THEY COULD, SUBMIT TO DO SO, EITHER IN PERSON OR IN WRITING, WE AND I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT OR THE NEIGHBOR IS NOT HERE TONIGHT AND HAS ELECTED NOT TO SUBMIT ANYTHING FOR THE ZI-A TO CONSIDER. THANK YOU. CAN WE JUST TALK ABOUT THE SEQUENCE OF EVENTS AND HOW WE DISCOVERED THIS? IS WAS IT A COMPLAINT FROM THE PREVIOUS NEIGHBOR? THAT'S RIGHT. SO THE PREVIOUS NEIGHBOR, CONTACTED STAFF ABOUT CONCERNS JUST ABOUT PONDING IN THEIR BACKYARD. AND SO THE CITY STAFF KNOW ABOUT PONDING IN THEIR OWN BACKYARD. THEY THEY DID ASK STAFF TO TAKE A LOOK AT. THEY DID THINK THAT MAYBE IT WAS CAUSED BY THIS PROPERTY OWNER, THE APPLICANT. TONIGHT, HOWEVER, WHEN STAFF WENT OUT AND INVESTIGATED IT, THEY FOUND NO EVIDENCE THAT THIS ARTIFICIAL TURF OR OTHER IMPROVEMENTS ON THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY IS CAUSING THE PONDING, THERE'S NO PUBLIC EASEMENTS OR ANYTHING ELSE FOR THE CONVEYANCE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR FOR THE CONVEYANCE OF, STORMWATER FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THOSE INSTANCES, STAFF HAS NO ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM. THAT WOULD BE A PRIVATE PARTY ISSUE, BUT IT WAS DURING THAT INVESTIGATION FOR THE PONDING FOR STORMWATER THAT STAFF FOUND THE ARTIFICIAL TURF. AND THAT'S WHEN WE CONTACTED THE HOMEOWNER NOTIFYING THEM THAT A VARIANCE IS REQUESTED. I SHOULD NOTE THAT THERE'S NO PERMITS REQUIRED FOR THE INSTALLATION OF PLAYGROUNDS OR LANDSCAPING. SO IT'S NOT THAT IT WASN'T PERMITTED OR ANYTHING BECAUSE THAT'S NOT REQUIRED, IT'S JUST THAT IT'S NOT ALLOWED BY CODE. I ASSUME YOU'RE THE OWNER, MISS BARRETT. I AM, YOU GUYS DIDN'T INSTALL THIS YOURSELVES, I ASSUME. I ASSUME YOU HAD A CONTRACTOR INSTALL. COULD YOU COME TO THE MICROPHONE? SORRY ABOUT THAT.
LET ME JUST STARTLE YOU. THANK YOU. AM I ALLOWED TO SPEAK FREELY? OKAY, SO OUR YARD, WE BOUGHT THAT HOUSE IN 2020, AND IT WAS A SWAMP FROM THE MOMENT WE LIVED THERE. AS IS 30 WITH ALASKA, MY NEIGHBOR. I MEAN, AS SOON AS THE SPRING RAINS HIT THE WHOLE HER WHOLE ENTIRE YARD, MY WHOLE, ENTIRE YARD WAS A SWAMP. SO MUCH SO THAT IN 2021, WE HAD A LANDSCAPER INSTALL A NATURAL LIKE CREEK. SO SOME OF THAT WATER WOULD KIND OF FLOW BACK BEHIND OUR TREE LINE AND THEN OUT TO OUR SUPPOSED TO, BECAUSE IT WAS SO TROUBLESOME. THAT WAS THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS. THE FOLLOWING YEAR, 2022, I SPENT THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS REGRADING THAT ENTIRE AREA BACK THERE. AND THIS IS BEFORE WE EVEN EVEN WENT INTO CONTRACT TO BUILD THE POOL. AND THAT DID HELP OUR YARD QUITE A BIT. AND THEY NEVER DID ANY SUCH WORK IN THEIR YARD, SO WHEN WE DID GO INTO CONTRACT FOR THE POOL, IT KIND OF MADE SENSE. SO THERE'S A HEAVILY WOODED AREA BACK THERE, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT TO SEE BECAUSE THERE'S NO LEAVES ON THE TREES IN THOSE PHOTOS, BUT IT'S HEAVILY WOODED. SO PREVIOUSLY WE HAD THE PLAYSET AND THE TRAMPOLINE ON GRASS, AND IT BECAME A MUDDY MESS. IT JUST CAN'T STAY NICE, WEEDS WOULD GROW UP UNDER THE TRAMPOLINE.
OUR LANDSCAPER EVERY WEEK WOULD TRY TO TRIM THEM. IT DOESN'T MATTER. IT JUST LOOKS SO MUCH WORSE, SO WE. THAT WASN'T GOING TO WORK WHEN WE PUT IN THE POOL. SO THEN WE WERE THINKING ABOUT BLACK RUBBER MULCH OR EVEN JUST REGULAR BLACK MULCH. BUT IT WAS SO CLOSE TO THE POOL THAT THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN KICKED UP AND GOTTEN INTO THE POOL ALL THE TIME. SO THIS IS JUST WHAT MADE SENSE. I HAD NO IDEA IT WASN'T ALLOWED, WE DID HAVE OUR CONTRACTOR PUT IT IN. THERE IS GRAVEL UNDERNEATH THE TURF SO THAT IT DRAINS OUT, I, I DON'T LOVE THE TURF. RIGHT. BUT IT
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MAKES SENSE. LIKE, MY KIDS AREN'T GOING TO NEED A PLAY SET IN A TRAMPOLINE FOREVER, EITHER.AS SOON AS THEY'RE DONE WITH THAT. IF YOU NEED ME TO, LIKE, PULL IT, FINE, FINE. GREAT. I'LL GET RID OF IT. I'LL GET RID OF IT. BUT FOR NOW, THIS IS. HONESTLY, I DON'T I DON'T BLAME THE HOMEOWNER, BECAUSE THE CONTRACTOR SHOULD HAVE KNOWN THAT THE CODE WAS SO. OKAY, SO I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU DIDN'T KNOW THAT, RIGHT? AND YOU PROBABLY HAVE DONE IT IF IT WAS AGAINST THE CODE FOR SURE. OKAY, OKAY. I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. A QUESTION FOR STAFF, I KNOW MULCH IS ALLOWED, BUT IS THE BLACK RUBBER? I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU CALL IT. IS THAT ALLOWED? SO THAT IS ALLOWED. YEAH. SO THE CODE DOES ALLOW FOR ALTERNATE MATERIALS SUBJECT TO THE LAND OR TO THE CITY LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, HOWEVER, IT, IT DOES EXPRESSLY PROHIBIT ARTIFICIAL TURF GRASS.
YEAH I'M CURIOUS WHO THE CONTRACTOR WAS. SO IT'S A DESIGN BUILD. WHEN WE BOUGHT OUR HOUSE IN 2020, THEY DID OUR INTERIOR RENOVATION. AND THEY ALSO BUILT OUR POOL HOUSE, WHICH WE HAD OBVIOUSLY GONE TO THE CITY FOR AND HAD, WHICH INCLUDED THE TURFGRASS OR THE ARTIFICIAL TURF. NO, BECAUSE NOBODY KNEW THAT IT WAS AN ISSUE. HE WAIT, SORRY, WHO IS THE CONTRACTOR THAT DESIGN BUILD H DESIGN BUILD. CORRECT? CORRECT OKAY. AND MCCULLOUGH'S IS OUR LANDSCAPER AND NOTHING. OKAY AGAIN SORRY. UNDERSTAND? UNDERSTAND THE PREDICAMENT YOU'RE IN. RIGHT. AND IT'S JUST THE MULCH IS MORE ATTRACTIVE. MAYBE, BUT ALSO IT JUST IT WOULD BE A DISASTER. THE POOL AND MY DOG. QUESTION FOR STAFF. IT SOUNDS THAT THIS PONDING, SITUATION IS KIND OF A KNOWN ISSUE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. HAS STAFF OFFERED ANY ALTERNATIVE? I KNOW THE MUD WOULDN'T BE GREAT, BUT ARE WE AWARE OF ANY ALTERNATIVE OUTSIDE OF THE ARTIFICIAL TURF THAT WOULD MEET, OUR CODE? I KNOW OUR NEIGHBOR HAS SINCE INSTALLED FRENCH DRAINS IN THEIR PROPERTY IN NO LONGER HAVE PONDING. SO AS SOON AS THAT PONDING STARTED, THEY HAVE MCCULLOUGH'S OUT THERE INSTALLING FRENCH DRAINS, AND NOW THERE'S NOT AN ISSUE ANY LONGER, I KNOW WE HAD ALSO DONE THAT. WE HAVE FRENCH DRAINS ALL THROUGHOUT OUR PROPERTY. NOW TO TRY TO AVOID THAT PONDING, BECAUSE IT DRAWS MOSQUITOES AND ALL SORTS OF OTHER STUFF. YEAH LET'S SAY MOST STANDING WATER CONCERNS ARE ADDRESSED BY JUST REGRADING. SO TYPICALLY IT'S CAUSED BY LIKE RACE PLANTER BEDS. YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T TAKE MUCH TO CAUSE A LITTLE BIT OF STANDING WATER, ESPECIALLY AFTER MAJOR RAIN EVENTS, WHICH I SUSPECT THIS MIGHT HAVE BEEN, BUT CERTAINLY, YEAH, DOING THINGS LIKE FRENCH DRAINS OR JUST, YOU KNOW, CARVING OUT, SOME SLATES, INDENTS AND GRADE CAN DO GOOD IMPROVEMENTS FOR, THE CONVEYANCE OF STORMWATER. SO WITH THE SO WITH THE FRENCH DRAINS IN PLACE RIGHT NOW IS THE PONDING STILL A CHALLENGE FOR, YOU KNOW, SO WE HAD PAID SO MUCH MONEY TO REGRADE OUR YARD AND INSTALL THE FRENCH DRAINS THAT WE NO LONGER HAD ANY PONDING. BUT THEY STILL DID. AND I THINK THEY CALLED MORE ABOUT THEIR OWN PONDING THAN OURS, JUST MAKING SURE THAT IT WASN'T CAUSING IT. AND THEN THEY SAID THEY DETERMINED THAT IT WAS NOT. AND THEN AS SOON AS THEY DETERMINED IT WAS NOT, THAT'S WHEN THEY HAD MCCULLOUGHS COME OUT AND INSTALL FRENCH DRAINS. AND THERE HASN'T SEEMED TO BE A PROBLEM SINCE THEN. BUT I WILL SAY THERE'S A LOT OF MATURE TREES THERE WITH ROOT SYSTEMS. FRENCH DRAINS ARE LIKE A FIVE YEAR FIX. I THINK REALLY BEFORE IT'S GOING TO BECOME AN ISSUE AGAIN, WHICH IS I THINK WHY WHEN WE BOUGHT THE HOUSE IN 2020, IT WAS SO BAD, I MEAN, THAT YOU'D STEP ON AND IT JUST MUSH. YEAH, REGARDING THE NEIGHBOR CARING ABOUT SCREENING, THEY WANT TO CALL ME. I WILL PAY FOR A ROBE OR PROVIDE A ON THEIR WHOLE SIDE ON MY DIME JUST TO MAKE EVERYONE HAPPY. I DON'T THINK I CAN QUITE FIT IN ARBORVITAES ON MY SIDE. I COULD FIT LIKE HYDRANGEA OR CLIMBING HYDRANGEA OR SOMETHING JUST TO MAKE I. SO I THINK IF IT WAS IMPORTANT TO THEM, THEY'D BE HERE FOR SURE. LIKE I'M I'M MORE THAN WILLING TO WORK WITH THEM ON THAT. APPRECIATE THAT. I'M WITH SEAN. I FEEL BETTER THAT THEY HAD AN OPPORTUNITY. IT WAS SPELLED OUT, AND THEY HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE AND CHOSE NOT TO. WHICH KIND OF SPELLS OUT WHAT THEY'RE THINKING. BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S WORST IDEA NEIGHBOR TO NEIGHBOR TO AFTER THIS MEETING TO AT SOME POINT TALK TO THEM ABOUT. YEAH, MAYBE PUTTING SOME ARBORVITAE IN THERE. RIGHT. LUCKILY NONE OF OUR YARD ABUTS TO ANY WINDOW OF THEIR LIVING SPACE. THE ONLY WINDOW THAT FACES OUR YARD IS A SINGLE GARAGE WINDOW. THEY ALSO, FROM THEIR PATIO, CAN'T SEE OUR BACKYARD UNTIL THEY WALK OUT
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INTO THE YARD. SO YOU HAVE TO, LIKE, TRY TO SEE OUR YARD. I GUESS THAT MAKES SENSE. AND THEY'RE THE ONLY NEIGHBOR THAT COULD SEE THAT. IS THAT CORRECT. THE ONLY. THERE'S A HUGE VERY HEAVILY WOODED TREE LINE THAT BACKS UP TO THE PEOPLE BEHIND US . OKAY. THANK YOU. AND IS THERE A VISIBILITY FROM THE STREET TO THE PLAY AREA. NOT IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT MY HOUSE STRAIGHT ON BUT IF YOU'RE WALKING DOWN THE STREET I MEAN YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IT. SO THAT'S WHERE I WOULD SORRY. THAT'S WHERE I WOULD SAY I'M HAPPY IF THEY ARE OKAY WITH IT, I WILL PAY WHAT'S JUST TO MAKE EVERYONE HAPPY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THIS IS SCARY. DON'T BE SCARED. VERY NERVE WRACKING.ALL RIGHT, I'M GOOD, I'M GOOD. OKAY, I'LL, MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE VARIANCE V 32 024. I'LL SECOND THAT, MISTER. YES, MISTER SHELL. YES, MISTER. JACOB. YES MISS SAMUELS? YES. THE MOTION PASSES WITH FIVE VOTES. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANKS. YOU'RE FREE TO LEAVE, YOU KNOW, FOUR MONTHS. SORRY YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANKS. THANK YOU. OKAY WE'RE TO OUR SECOND CASE OF THE NIGHT. VARIANCE 40 4-2024. VARIANCE TO CODIFY ORDINANCE 1153. 04B TO ALLOW THE CREATION OF A LOT THAT DOES NOT FRONT ON A PUBLIC OR PRIVATE STREET LOCATED AT 8111 SMITHSON HILL ROAD. MISTER UNDERHILL IS HERE FOR THAT. OKAY, STAFF REPORT PLEASE. THANK YOU SO. SO THIS PROPERTY CONTAINS THE FORMER BOB EVANS HEADQUARTERS, NOW OWNED BY 31 GIFTS WITHIN THE FRANKLIN COUNTY BUSINESS PARK. AND IT IS LOCATED NORTH OF STATE ROUTE 161 HERE.
SO HERE AND SOUTH OF SMITH'S MILL ROAD, WHICH IS SANDWICHED RIGHT HERE. THE PROPERTY OWNER REQUESTS THE VARIANCE TO PARCEL OFF A PORTION OF THE PROPERTY TO SELL THAT DOESN'T HAVE FRONTAGE ON A PUBLIC STREET. THE VARIANCE ALLOWS FOR THE CREATION OF A SOUTHERN PROPERTY THAT CONSISTS OF THE EXISTING BUILDINGS, AND THE NORTHERN PROPERTY THAT CONSISTS OF AN UNDEVELOPED AREA.
THE VARIANCE IS NOT SUBSTANTIAL BECAUSE THE APPLICANT COMMITS TO INSERT A PERMANENT ACCESS EASEMENT RUNNING IN FAVOR OF THE SOUTHERN PARCEL, WITH DIRECT ACCESS TO AND FROM SMITH'S MILL ROAD. THE EASEMENT IS DARKENED AND GRAY, AS YOU CAN SEE AT THE TOP HERE, AND THIS ALLOWS BOTH PARCELS TO HAVE FULL ACCESS TO THE PUBLIC STREET. THE CITY STAFF RECOMMENDS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL, REQUIRING THAT THE PERMANENT ACCESS EASEMENT IS RECORDED BY THE APPLICANT PRIOR TO THE LOT BEING SPLIT, AND THE CITY STAFF ALSO RECOMMENDS THAT THE NEW NORTHERN PARCEL IS NOT PERMITTED TO HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL CURB CUTS ON TO SMITH'S MILL ROAD, AND MUST USE THE EXISTING DRIVE FOR ACCESS. WITH THESE CONDITIONS, IT DOES APPEAR THAT THE ESSENTIAL CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD BE THE. DOESN'T APPEAR THAT THE ESSENTIAL CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD BE SUBSTANTIALLY ALTERED, SINCE THE BOB EVANS HEADQUARTERS AND LOWER.COM SITE IS DESIGNED TO BE A CAMPUS LAYOUT WITH ONE EXIT POINT OF ACCESS TO THE OVERALL SITE, THESE CONDITIONS ELIMINATE MULTIPLE CURB CUTS ON THE STREET, WHICH PRESERVES THE CAMPUS DESIGN. WHILE THE APPLICANT CAN RESOLVE THIS VARIANCE IN ANOTHER MANNER BY CREATING A FLAG LOT FOR THE SOUTHERN PARCEL, THE ACCESS EASEMENT IS A REASONABLE ALTERNATIVE. ACCORDING TO THE PROPERTY OWNER, THE PURPOSE OF THE LOT SPLIT IS TO USE THE LAND TO EXPAND ECONOMIC GROWTH AND OPPORTUNITY. ALTHOUGH THE CITY ZONING CODE REQUIRES ALL PROPERTIES TO HAVE ACCESS TO PUBLIC OR PRIVATE STREETS, THE CROSS ASSET ACCESS EASEMENT MEETS THE SPIRIT AND INTENT OF THE CODE, SINCE IT PROVIDES ALL OF THE PROPERTIES ACCESS TO A PUBLIC STREET. IF THE NEW PARCELS USE THE EXISTING CURB CUT, THIS WILL ENSURE THE CAMPUS DESIGN OF THE OVERALL SITE IS ACHIEVED, AND THEREFORE DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE SUBSTANTIAL, AND AT THIS TIME, CITY STAFF WILL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. OKAY. THANK YOU, IS THERE A MOTION TO ACCEPT? STAFF REPORT INTO RECORD. SO MOVED. SECOND. MISTER JACOB? YES MISS SAMUELS? YES, MISTER ROGERS. YES, MISTER SHELL. YES. MOTION PASSES WITH FOUR VOTES TO ADMIT THE DOCUMENTS. OKAY. THANK
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YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF, MR. UNDERHILL IS HERE AS WELL. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR HIM OR MISTER UNDERHILL, IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK, YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME UP AND SPEAK. THANK YOU, MR. JACOBS. DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? YES, SIR. THANK YOU, GOOD TO SEE YOU, SIR, STAFF NOTED. DURING THE REPORT, THAT THIS, IF APPROVED, WOULD CREATE, AND I'M PARAPHRASING AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY, JUST FOR THE FUTURE OF THAT AREA. IF WE BY DOING THIS, COULD YOU ELABORATE ON WHY THAT IS SO. YEAH. GREAT QUESTION, AARON UNDERHILL, UNDERHILL AND HODGE, 8000 WALTON PARKWAY HERE IN NEW ALBANY. ZONING ATTORNEY, HAVEN'T BEEN BEFORE THIS BOARD A TON, BUT CERTAINLY BEFORE PLANNING COMMISSION AND COUNCIL. PROBABLY MORE THAN THEY'D LIKE TO SEE ME, COULD I COULD YOU PULL UP SIERRA, THE, THE MAP THERE, YEAH. THERE WE GO. SO, MISTER JACOB, REALLY, THE OWNER, SO 31 REAL ESTATE, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE HAD THEIR THEIR BUSINESS ISSUES HERE IN RECENT TIMES AND, YOU KNOW, PANDEMIC AND ALL THAT HAVEN'T HELPED THE OFFICE MARKET . THEY HAVE GONE OUT TO MARKET TO TRY TO REPOSITION THIS PROPERTY, MAYBE WITH ANOTHER USER. THEY HAVE RECEIVED SOME INTEREST, BUT AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, IN NEW ALBANY, LAND IS EXPENSIVE. WHETHER IMPROVED OR UNIMPROVED. AND SO THERE HAS REALLY BEEN A RELUCTANCE FOR ANYBODY TO BITE ON THE ENTIRE SITE. FRANKLY, PRETTY FORTUNATE ANYBODY WOULD BE INTERESTED IN AN OFFICE SITE OF THIS SIZE THESE DAYS WITH THESE BUILDINGS. AND SO THEY DO FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE A AT LEAST ONE PROSPECT THAT IS REAL, BUT THEY ONLY WANT THIS PROPERTY ON THE SOUTH, IN TERMS OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY, THIS SITE IS ZONED LGA LIMITED GENERAL EMPLOYMENT. SO IT WOULD ALLOW OFFICE USES. IT WOULD ALLOW DATA CENTERS. IT WOULD ALLOW A LOT OF DIFFERENT USES. YOU SEE IN THE BUSINESS PARK TODAY, THE REASON THAT WE DON'T JUST, CREATE, YOU KNOW, SORT OF A FLAG LOT, AS WAS MENTIONED, WAS, FIRST OF ALL, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT ANOTHER END USER WILL WANT IN TERMS OF WHERE THEY WILL WANT TO SITE THEIR IMPROVEMENTS. AND SO, SO NO SENSE TEARING THIS OUT AND JUST GUESSING WHEN WE DON'T HAVE ANOTHER USER FOR THIS SITE.SO THE THOUGHT WAS UNDER THAT RECORDED EASEMENT AGREEMENT, THERE WILL BE AN ABILITY FOR, FOR, WHOEVER OWNS THIS SITE AND THEN ULTIMATELY 31 OWNING THIS SITE. STILL, IF A, IF AN OPPORTUNITY ARISES TO MODIFY THAT THERE BE APPROVAL RIGHTS BY THIS END USER AS WELL. BUT, THEY WOULD LIKE THE FLEXIBILITY 31 WOULD IN ORDER TO MARKET THE SITE AND THEN RELOCATE THAT DRIVE IN A MANNER THAT IS BOTH, ACCEPTABLE TO BOTH BUYERS OF THE PROPERTY EVENTUALLY AND TO THE CITY UNDERSTANDING THEY WANT TO MINIMIZE CURB CUTS, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE OTHER ISSUES WE THOUGHT WAS, YOU KNOW, IF YOU KNOW, THE CITY IS NOT GOING TO THIS IS ACTUALLY A FORMER FORMER , RIGHT OF WAY FOR SMITH'S MILL ROAD. OBVIOUSLY, THAT WENT AWAY. BUT, YOU KNOW, MINIMIZING ACCESS ALONG HERE DUE TO THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC AND THE NUMBER OF CUTS ALREADY IS IMPORTANT TO THE CITY. AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IN THE END, WHEN WE DO HAVE THAT OTHER OPPORTUNITY THAT WE'RE, SERVING THE NEEDS OF THE EXISTING IMPROVEMENTS, BUT ALSO THIS USER AS WELL, THIS GIVES US THE FLEXIBILITY TO DO SO. FOLLOW UP, WOULD YOU, WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED THAT WERE REPORTED IN STAFF, WOULD THEY BE OPEN TO ANY OF THE CONDITIONS LISTED BY THE STAFF? REPORT YES.
THEY'RE ALL THERE. ACCEPTABLE. GOT IT. THANKS. THAT'S ALL. AND WHEN YOU SAY OFFICE, ARE YOU THINKING SOMEBODY LIKE A SPECULATIVE SOMEBODY MIGHT COME IN AND UP HERE? YEAH. THIS WELL, I, I MENTIONED THAT ONLY BECAUSE THAT'S THE EXISTING USE HERE. I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUTURE WILL HOLD, OFFICE IS A PERMITTED USE OBVIOUSLY TODAY. BUT LIKE I SAID, DATA CENTERS ARE, LIGHT MANUFACTURING AND PRODUCTION. SO IT COULD BE ANY NUMBER OF THINGS. I DOUBT YOU WILL SEE ANYBODY BUILD A SPECULATIVE OFFICE ANYTIME IN THE NEAR FUTURE. SO, BUT BUT THE THOUGHT IS A 15.5 ACRE SITE ALMOST IN THE NEW ALBANY BUSINESS PARK AT A PRETTY PRIME LOCATION. COULD BE ATTRACTIVE. AND, YOU KNOW, NEW ALBANY IS, GOING TO BE COMING A LITTLE BIT OF A VICTIM OF ITS OWN SUCCESS. WE DON'T HAVE ANY SITES LEFT. AND SO, TO BE ABLE TO SPLIT THIS ONE OFF AND CREATE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY IS GOOD NOT ONLY FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER, BUT FOR THE CITY AS WELL. I JUST HAVE A QUESTION. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS FOR STAFF, IT'S PROBABLY FOR STAFF. SO ALONG SMITH MILLS ROAD THERE, ARE WE SAYING THAT A CURB CUT IS NOT AUTHORIZED? YEAH. SO CURRENTLY THE ENTIRE SITE IS SERVED BY ONE SINGLE CURB CUT HERE. AND SO IT GOES INTO OVERALL CAMPUS. OUR CONDITIONS REQUIRE TWO THINGS. ONE, THAT A CROSS ACCESS EASEMENTS BE
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RECORDED. AND, SO THAT THE SOUTHERN SIDE HAS ACCESS TO SMITH'S MILL ROAD. AND THEN WE'RE ALSO LIMITING ANY FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OUT ON THIS NORTHERN PARCEL THAT THEY HAVE TO UTILIZE THIS SHARED DRIVE HERE. SO YEAH, WE ARE ESSENTIALLY RESTRICTING IT. SO THERE COULD BE NO MORE ADDITIONAL CURB CUTS ON SMITH'S MILL ROAD, AS FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OCCURS. OKAY. SO WITH THAT SAID, WHAT WOULD A FLAG LOT LOOK LIKE WITH THIS PICTURE? SO A TYPICAL FLAG LOT IS WHERE THERE'S A VERY SKINNY PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT CONNECTS TO A LARGER PIECE IN ORDER TO GET ACCESS TO A STREET.AND SO THAT IS AN ALTERNATIVE HERE, TO THE VARIANCE. HOWEVER, WE DO THINK THIS IS THIS IS STILL REASONABLE, IT STILL ALLOWS FOR MORE FLEXIBILITY. SO IF YOU WERE TO DO A FLAG LOT THAT WOULD REMOVE DEVELOPABLE SPACE FROM THE OVERALL, NORTHERN PROPERTY. SO THAT WOULD PUT MORE LIMITATIONS ON THE DEVELOPABLE SPACE. WE DO ACTUALLY THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, GOING BACK TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT REASONS. YEAH. THERE AREN'T MANY SITES LEFT. YEAH, REALLY, IF ANY, IN NEW ALBANY. AND THEY'RE MOSTLY LARGE SITES. WE ACTUALLY HAVE VERY FEW SORT OF SMALL AND MEDIUM SITES. SO THIS WOULD CREATE SOMETHING THAT THE CITY NEEDS THAT HOPEFULLY WOULD BE MORE MARKETABLE, BECAUSE IT'S A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, 50 ACRE SITES HERE FOR LARGE USERS, NOT MUCH FOR SMALL USERS. SO SINCE IT IS A SMALLER SITE, ADDING ON ADDITIONAL, A FLAG LOT, A LITTLE STEM, WOULD, YOU KNOW, COULD POTENTIALLY EAT UP SOME VALUABLE DEVELOPABLE SPACE, FOR THE, FOR THE PROPERTY ON THE NORTH. AND THAT WOULD PRESUME A CUT IN THE CURB FOR A FLAG LOT. YEAH.
THAT'S ANOTHER THING. IT COULD REQUIRE ANOTHER CURB CUT WHICH WOULD PROBABLY WOULD. RIGHT.
LOOKING AT IT, IT'S YOU KNOW, THERE'S DIFFERENT WAYS YOU COULD DO IT, BUT IT IT MAY RESULT IN NEEDING ANOTHER CURB CUTS, AND THAT'S WHY I THINK STAFF THINKS THIS IS A REASONABLE. AND IT HELPS ENSURE THAT WE'RE KEEPING THAT CAMPUS FEEL IN THE OVERALL SITE. YEAH. UNDERSTOOD. OKAY ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I HAVE A QUESTION JUST FOR CLARITY FOR STAFF. SO THE CURRENT ENTRANCE, THE ONLY ENTRANCE IS FROM THE FUTURE STATE NORTH PROPERTY RIGHT NOW. THAT'S CORRECT. SO EVEN IF SOMEONE WERE TO PURCHASE THE SOUTHERN PARCEL, THEN THEY WILL BE ENTERING THROUGH THE NORTH. CORRECT. AND IS THAT SOMETHING THAT IS. DIGESTIVE WELL, THAT'S ONE OF THE PROVISIONS OF THE ACCEPTANCE OF THIS. IS THAT THE RIGHT OF ACCESS? AND LOOK, I THINK WHAT THIS DOES AND IF WE WERE TO CREATE A FLAG LOT TODAY FOR THE REASONS THAT WE'RE SORT OF DISCUSSING THAT WE DON'T, I DON'T THINK THE CITY ENGINEERING FOLKS WOULD WANT ANOTHER CURB CUT. WE'D PROBABLY BE CREATING A FLAG THAT LOOKS SOMETHING LIKE THIS. RIGHT. AND SO WE'D HAVE THAT PIECE ORPHANED AND WE'D HAVE THIS OVER HERE. I THINK BY DOING IT THIS WAY, WE LEAVE OPEN THE POSSIBILITY THAT MAYBE THIS ALL GETS RECONFIGURED IN THE FUTURE. AND, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE AN ENGINEERING EXERCISE WITH THE CITY TO FIGURE OUT IF WE JUST WANT TO MOVE THE SINGLE CUT OVER HERE, OR WHETHER WE SOMEHOW LOOP AROUND AND GET OVER THERE. BUT YOU CAN SEE THIS TAKES UP A LOT OF REAL ESTATE HERE. AND THIS THIS ALLOWS MAXIMUM FLEXIBILITY. WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDED CONDITION OF APPROVAL TO THAT, THE CROSS ACCESS EASEMENT BE RECORDED THAT ENSURES THAT IT CAN'T BE TAKEN AWAY IN THE FUTURE. SO THAT DOES ALLOW FOR PERPETUAL ACCESS TO THE SOUTHERN PARCEL AS WELL. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. UNDERHILL OR STAFF? OKAY. I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE APPLICATION VARIANCE 44 2024. BASED ON THE FINDING, THE FINDINGS IN THE STAFF REPORT SECOND. MR. SHELL YES. MR. LAGINAS. YES, MISS SAMUELS. YES. MR. JACOB. YES.
THE MOTION PASSES WITH FOUR VOTES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. OKAY. WE ARE AT OUR THIRD CASE OF THE NIGHT, WHICH IS VARIANCE 46 2024 VARIANCE TO CODIFY ORDINANCE 1169. 16D TO THE QUANTITY AND SIZE OF SIGNAGE FOR AMPLIFY BIO LOCATED AT 9885 INNOVATION CAMPUS WAY. COULD WE HEAR STAFF REPORT? YES THE 33 ACRE SITE IS LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF INNOVATION CAMPUS WAY IN THE LICKING COUNTY PORTION OF THE BUSINESS PARK AND IS DEVELOPED WITH AMPLIFY BIO. THE SITE IS SURROUNDED BY COMMERCIALLY USED PROPERTIES AND BY TOWNSHIP PROPERTY TO THE WEST. DUE TO THE SITE BEING IN TWO ZONING DISTRICTS, TWO BOARDS HAVE JURISDICTION ON THE SITE AND THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS CONSENTED FOR JUST REVIEW BY THE BCA. AS SHOWN HERE ON THE SITE
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PLAN, CIRCLED IN RED ARE THE ALL SIGNS WHICH ARE IDENTICAL, WHICH WILL BE LOCATED ON THE INNOVATION CAMPUS WAY. ELEVATION AT THE THREE BUILDING ENTRANCES, WHICH YOU CAN SEE RIGHT HERE, THE APPLICANT REQUESTS THREE VARIANCES, WHICH INCLUDE VARIANCE A TO ALLOW THE SIGNS TO BE 215FT■!S, WHEREAS CODE ALLOWA MAXIMUM OF 75FT■!S. VARIANCE B O ALLOW THREE SIGNS PER BUSINESS FRONTAGE. WHEREAS CODE PERMITS ONE SIGN PER BUSINESS FRONTAGE AND VARIANCE C TO ALLOW LETTERING HEIGHT OF 39IN, WHERE CODE PERMITS A MAXIMUM OF 36IN. HERE IS THE ELEVATION SHOWING WHAT THE SIGN WILL LOOK LIKE ABOVE THE THREE ENTRANCES, AS WELL AS THE DESIGN OF THE SIGN.IN REGARDS TO THE REQUESTED VARIANCES, THE BUILDING IS APPROXIMATELY 1140FT LONG AND FRONTS ONLY ONE STREET. THE THREE IDENTICAL SIGNS ARE APPROPRIATELY AND SYMMETRICALLY INTEGRATED ON THE BUILDING. IN TERMS OF THE LETTERING HEIGHT VARIANCE. NOT ALL LETTERS ON THE WALL SIGN ARE OVER. THE PERMITTED 36IN STAFF DOES NOT FIND THE REQUEST TO BE SUBSTANTIAL, AS THE BUILDING IS LARGE. SCALE AND OTHER LARGE SCALE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES HAVE RECEIVED SIMILAR VARIANCE REQUESTS. BY THE BZA, THE BOARD MAY VOTE ON ALL THREE VARIANCES AS ONCE OR AS SEPARATE CASES, AND STAFF IS HERE. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. YOU HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT . STAFF REPORTED TO RECORD. SO MOVED. SECOND, MISTER JACOB. YES MR. JONES? YES, MISTER SHELL. YES, MISS SAMUELS? YES MOTION PASSES WITH FOUR VOTES AND I SEE, WE HAVE MR. MCFARLAND. IS THAT CORRECT? YES DO YOU WISH TO SPEAK TONIGHT, MR. MCFARLAND? WE NEED TO. WE NEED TO SWEAR YOU IN BEFORE YOU START. YOU NEED TO RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. AND DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP ME GOD. OKAY. THANK YOU. COOL. I APPRECIATE STAFF CONSIDERATION OF THE VARIANCES, THE BOARD AS WELL. I APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE AS WELL. I KNOW THAT THE TASK YOU HAVE IS DAUNTING, WE WORK WITH A LOT OF JURISDICTIONS AROUND THIS SIDE OF THE MISSISSIPPI, AND THERE'S NOT ANY EASIER CASE THAT IS ALWAYS CLEAR CUT AS MUCH AS WE'D LIKE TO THANK, THE OWNER IS ALREADY CODE AS CLEAR CUT AS WE'D LIKE TO THINK. AND FROM OUR RESEARCH, FROM THE CODE, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE BUILDINGS OF THIS SIZE WERE EVEN MAYBE EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT YEARS AGO WHEN THE CODE WAS WRITTEN. SO, WE DO THINK THAT THE SIZE OF THE SIGNS, THE LOCATION OF THOSE, BUT BASED ON THE ENTRANCES, ESPECIALLY THE EXTREME DISTANCES FROM THE ROADWAY, AS WELL AS FUTURE GROWTH OF THE TREES THAT WILL BE FRONTING THAT WHOLE SECTION REALLY, REALLY HELP TO SOLIDIFY THE NEED FOR GRAPHICS THAT REFLECT THE DIMENSION OF THIS. THE OVERALL GRAPHICS REPRESENT JUST OVER 1% OF THE BUILDING ELEVATION, ACCORDING TO THE INTERNATIONAL SIGN ASSOCIATION, THE LETTER HEIGHTS OF 36IN ARE APPROPRIATE FOR READABILITY FROM THE ROADWAY, REGARDLESS OF WHICH ENTRANCE THAT A PERSON WOULD BE COMING INTO. WE ALSO THINK THAT IN FUTURE, IF AMPLIFYBIO WERE TO NOT BE IN THIS LOCATION, THAT FUTURE, THIS BUILDING IS LARGE ENOUGH TO CERTAINLY HOLD THREE DIFFERENT BUSINESSES. AND SO AT THAT POINT, WE HELP THEM HAVE SOME EXPECTANCY OF A WAY FOR PEOPLE TO FIND OUT HOW TO COME INTO THEIR PARTICULAR BUSINESS ENTRANCE. SO WITH THAT, I'D BE GLAD TO HAVE ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. DO YOU REPRESENT THE DEVELOPER OR ARE YOU A HIRED, WE WORK ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE FOOD CHAIN. WE'RE RIGHT NOW OUR CLIENT IS COLUMBUS. SIGN THEIR CLIENT IS AMPLIFIED BY. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? THERE'S A LOT OF PRECEDENTS FOR THIS RECENTLY, SO I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GOING TO GET A LOT OF QUESTIONS FROM ANYONE. I ASSUME THAT THE SCALE AT WHICH THEY'RE SUGGESTING IS IN LINE WITH WHAT WE'VE APPROVED FOR. YEAH, IT IS.
AND IN FACT, WE WERE TALKING INTERNALLY ABOUT WE THINK IT'S TIME FOR US TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE CODE AND DO AN UPDATE. WE ASKED ABOUT THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY QUESTION. I HAVE STARTED RESEARCH ON THAT. SO YES. PERFECT. MORE TO COME. ANOTHER QUESTION I GUESS FOR THE BOARD IS DO WE WANT TO TREAT THESE AS A PACKAGE OR DO WE WANT TO TREAT THESE SEPARATELY AND VOTE ON THEM SEPARATELY? I'M COMFORTABLE WITH IT AS A PACKAGE. AS A PACKAGE. YEP. OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR, I MOVE TO APPROVE VARIANCE 462024 SECOND. MISTER JACOB. YES, MISTER. LAJEUNESSE.
YES, MISTER SHELL. YES MISS SAMUELS. YES. THE MOTION PASSES WITH FOUR VOTES. CONGRATULATIONS THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THAT WAS EASY. YOU KNOW, FOR STAFF. THAT'S INTERESTING. THE 1, YOU
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KNOW, THAT SEEMS TO BE KIND OF A NICE NUMBER. YEAH, WHEN YOU'RE CONSIDERING IT. I THINK IT WAS WHAT, 1.35% IS THE BUILDING DISCOUNT. SO YEAH. OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER BUSINESS THIS EVENING? NONE FROM STAFF. ANY COMMENTARY FROM MY COLLEAGUES HERE? YEP OKAY, MISTER, MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING. MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING. SECOND, MISTER LAJEUNESSE. YES, MISTER SHELL. YES, MISS. SAMUELS? YES MISTER JACOBS. YES. MOTION PASSES. THANKS, EVERYONE* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.