Sep 16, 2024 Planning Commission

[I. Call to order]

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IS STAFF READY? YES. COMMISSION MEMBERS. I'D LIKE TO CALL THE ORDER OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING FOR MONDAY, SEPTEMBER THE 16TH. COULD YOU THE ROLL, PLEASE? MR. KIRBY? PRESENT. MR. SHELL. PRESENT. MR. LARSON. PRESENT, MISS BRIGGS. HERE MR. WALLACE. COUNCIL MEMBER WILTROUT HERE. HERE ARE FOUR VOTING MEMBERS PRESENT. WE HAVE A QUORUM. THANK YOU. ITEM THREE IS

[III. Action on minutes: August 19, 2024]

[IV. Additions or corrections to the agenda]

[VI. Cases]

ADDITIONALLY, THE HOUSE IS LOCATED THE HOUSE LOCATED BEHIND THIS PROPERTY IS OVER 220FT AWAY FROM THE PROPERTY LINE, AND THERE APPEARS TO BE AN EXISTING TREE LINE THAT PROVIDES BUFFERING AS WELL. YOU CAN KIND OF SEE IT ALONG THE LINE HERE, AND THIS IS WHERE THE HOME IN THE TOWNSHIP IS. THE PROPOSED COVERED PATIO DOESN'T ALTER THE NEIGHBOR'S. THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S ESSENTIAL CHARACTER BECAUSE IT'S SIMILAR TO OTHERS IN THE SUBDIVISION. HOWEVER, THE PROPOSED FIREPLACE INCLUDES SIDING ON THE EXTERIOR, ACCORDING TO THE NOTTINGHAM TRACE ZONING TEXT, ONLY BRICK IS PERMITTED AS AN EXTERIOR MATERIAL FOR FIREPLACES.

THEREFORE, CITY STAFF RECOMMENDS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL REQUIRING THE FIREPLACE CHIMNEY MATERIALS BE CHANGED TO BRICK. THE VARIANCE CAN BE SOLVED IN ANOTHER MANNER BY REDUCING THE COVERED PATIO SIZE. IF THE SIZE OF THE PATIO AND FIREPLACE WERE REDUCED BY ABOUT FOUR FEET, THERE WOULD BE NO NEED FOR INVARIANCE AND ALL THE LOT HAS A LARGE REAR YARD SETBACK. THEN

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IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WISH TO ADD TO WHAT WAS JUST PRESENTED? I THINK IT WAS WELL DESCRIBED.

THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT THE ACTUAL SURVEY CALLS THIS LOT NUMBER 107. BUT THEN I WAS TOLD THAT THE LOTS WERE ALL RENUMBERED BECAUSE LOT NUMBER 107 HAS A 15 FOOT REAR YARD SETBACK, WHICH WOULD MAKE THIS A VARIANCE APPLICATION, NOT NECESSARY. AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU KNOW ABOUT THAT. YES. SO THE REGULATIONS ARE BASED ON THE LOT NUMBERS AT THE TIME OF THE REZONING, BASED ON THE REZONING EXHIBIT. HOWEVER, DUE TO PHASING CONSTRUCTION, PHASING OF THE SUBDIVISION ITSELF, THE LOT NUMBERS WERE CHANGED AS THEY WERE PLACED ON THE PLAT ITSELF AND HOW THEY WERE RECORDED. SO THERE'S THE A LOT NUMBER THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE SUBDIVISION, PER THE APPROVED PLATS. AND THEN THERE'S A SEPARATE LOT NUMBER THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE ZONING REGULATIONS. SO IN ANY EVENT, THE WIDTH OF THE PORCH 12FT IS KIND OF A MINIMUM. IF YOU ASK ME, FOR A USABLE SPACE TO BE ABLE TO PUT FURNITURE, A TABLE AND CHAIRS, AND I'D HATE TO SEE IT BECOME ANY NARROWER THAN THAT, BECAUSE IT WOULD REALLY, YOU KNOW, MAKE THE SPACE NOT AS USABLE. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION? YEAH IS IT IS THE APPLICANT OKAY WITH USING BRICK? I BELIEVE THE HOMEOWNER IS HERE AT THE MEETING, AND SHE INDICATED THAT SHE IS OKAY WITH CHANGING THE MATERIAL ON THE CHIMNEY TO BRICK. OKAY. IF YOU COME TO THE MIC WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, SIR, CAN YOU STEP UP SO THE MIC WILL PICK UP? I'M SORRY. YEAH, I'M NANCY WILLIS, I'M THE HOMEOWNER, AND I'M FINE. I TOLD JEFF I'M FINE WITH USING BRICK. THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE FOR ME AT ALL. AND THE ONLY OTHER THING I WANTED TO SAY IS THAT, TWO OF MY NEIGHBORS, IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS ON THE ONE SIDE, HAVE, PATIOS THAT EXTEND 12FT. SO IT WOULD BE IN KEEPING WITH THE REST OF THE HOUSES AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD, TO ALLOW ME TO DO THE 12FT. AND I TOTALLY AGREE WITH JEFF. IT TEN FEET IS A PRETTY NARROW SPACE, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'VE GOT A FIREPLACE.

THERE THAT'S TAKING UP PART OF IT. SO QUESTION FOR STAFF. IF THE FIREPLACE WAS NOT ATTACHED TO THE PORCH, WOULD IT NOT BE CONSIDERED PART OF THE. WOULD IT. WOULD THAT COUNT AS PART OF THE ENCROACHMENT STILL? LIKE IF IT WAS MORE LIKE A FIRE PIT? IT PROBABLY WOULD BE CONSIDERED, A SEPARATE IMPROVEMENT THAN YET NOT PART OF THE COVERED PORCH. SO IT MIGHT HAVE A DIFFERENT SETBACK. WE COULD LOOK THAT UP. DO WE KNOW THE PATIO SETBACK? SO THE PATIO SETBACK IS THAT 29FT? SO COVERED PORCHES, PATIOS AND DECKS IS WHAT THE ZONING TEXT SAYS CAN ENCROACH SIX FEET INTO THE REQUIRED BUILDING SETBACK. SO YOUR NEIGHBORS ARE ARE OVER THE LINE THEN? WELL THE NEIGHBORS HAVE NO ROOF, JUST A PATIO, JUST A PATIO. BUT IT DOES EXTEND 12FT OUT FROM THE BACK OF THEIR HOUSE. THAT WAS ALL THE ONLY POINT I WAS TRYING TO MAKE THAT THEY APPARENTLY HAD TO GET PERMITS, BUT NOT VARIANCES BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT TO COVER THEIRS. HOWEVER, FOR ME, I WOULD BE MUCH MORE USABLE TO HAVE A COVERED SPACE THAN SITTING OUT IN THE BLARING SUN ALL DAY. YEAH DO WE? ALL RIGHT. IS THAT A PROBLEM? I SEE, SO THIS IS NEIGHBORS, YOUR DIRECT NEIGHBORS AS OPPOSED TO OTHER PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD? YES WELL, OKAY, SO MY HOUSE IS HERE.

THE NEIGHBOR ON THIS SIDE, ON THE RIGHT OF ME, AND THE NEXT HOUSE ON THE RIGHT OF ME, BOTH HAVE, PATIOS THAT EXTEND 12FT AND THEN 20 SOMETHING FEET. DO YOUR WALLS LINE UP ON THE HOUSE? DO THE REAR WALLS LINE UP ON THE HOUSES? YES. SO THEY'RE NOT STAGGERED? I THINK SO, RIGHT? I

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YEAH. SO THERE'S VARIOUS HOME ELEVATIONS THAT HAVE DIFFERENT LENGTHS AND WIDTHS. SO IT COULD BE THAT JUST THE HOUSE IS SLIGHTLY SMALLER OR IT DOESN'T PROJECT AS FAR TO THE BACK OF THE LOT. BUT NO, WE'RE NOT AWARE OF ANY OTHER VARIANCES. WITHIN THE AREA FOR PATIOS, BUT COULD THE ZONING TEXT FOR THE SUBDIVISION DOES SAY FOR ALL DECKS, PATIOS AND SCREEN PORCHES. SO WHETHER IT'S COVERED OR UNCOVERED, WE BELIEVE THAT THIS REGULATION WOULD APPLY. SO EVEN IF SO, EVEN IF IT WAS UNCOVERED, THEY WOULD STILL BE IN THIS POSITION. THAT'S CORREC.

STEVE, DID YOU JUST SAY YOU DON'T RECALL ANY OTHER VARIANCES LIKE THIS IN THIS SUBDIVISION? YEAH. NONE THAT WE'RE AWARE OF. WELL, THERE'S ONLY A FEW HOUSES ON THAT ARE AFFECTED BY THIS 35 FOOT SETBACK ALONG MY LITTLE STRIP AT THE END OF THE OF THE STREET. SO THEY'RE THE ONLY HOUSES IT LOOKS LIKE FROM THE PLOT THING THAT ARE AFFECTED BY IT. MAYBE 5 OR 6 HOUSES. ANYONE ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC WITH QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? FROM THE COMMISSION. WE IF WE BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW IF THE OTHER PATIOS ARE IN THE SAME SETBACK OR NOT OR COMPLIANCE. SO THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND. I THINK TO MAKE A DECISION. WELL, NO, THOSE ARE BASICALLY EITHER BEING IN COMPLIANCE OR NOT. RIGHT. WE'RE MAKING A DECISION ON VARIANCE. YEAH OKAY. I MOVE TO ACCEPT THE STAFF REPORTS AND RELATED DOCUMENTS INTO THE RECORD FOR VARIANCE OF 61 2024.

YOUR SECOND ON THE DOCUMENTS MOTION. SO I'LL SECOND IT. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE DOCUMENTS CALL THE ROLL PLEASE. MR. KIRBY. YES. MR. LARSON. YES. MR. SHELL. YES. MISS BRIGGS. YES. THE MOTION PASSES. THERE ARE FOUR VOTES TO ACCEPT THE DOCUMENTS INTO THE RECORD. I MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF VARIANCE 61 2024. SUBJECT TO CONDITION IN THE STAFF REPORT. DO I HEAR A SECOND? SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE VARIANCE ITSELF? OKAY. THE ROLL. MR. KIRBY? NO MISS BRIGGS. YES MR. SHELL. NO MR. LARSON. NO THE MOTION FAILS WITH ONE VOTE IN FAVOR AND THREE VOTES AGAINST.

FOR THE RECORD, CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE NOTES? OH, THANK YOU, I DON'T THINK IT MEETS THE DUNCAN CRITERIA. AND IN PARTICULAR, AS MANY OF THOSE ARE POINTED OUT IN THE STAFF REPORT, SUCH AS, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT PARTICULARLY THE CONDITION IS NOT PARTICULAR TO THIS HOUSE. IT'S SHARED AMONGST THAT WHOLE ROW. AND, IT'S NOT THERE'S A WHOLE PILE OF THINGS IN THE DUNCAN CONDITION, AND I DON'T THINK IT MEETS THEM. THE PREPONDERANCE DOES NOT MEET THEM. YEAH, I WOULD AGREE, ESPECIALLY TO DUNCAN. WHERE THERE'S ANOTHER CHOICE TO AS MUCH AS WE HATE TO SAY NO. AND I KNOW SHRINKING THOSE PATIOS SOMETIMES MAKES IT DIFFICULT, BUT THERE IS AN OPTION TO SHRINK IT. AND, TO WHAT DIMENSION ARE YOU ASKING IT TO BE? SEE, RIGHT NOW, I THINK THE PORCH IS 28.97 26.97. CALL IT 27FT. SO YOU'RE SAYING TAKE TWO FEET OFF. STAY OUT OF IT. STAY OUT OF THE VARIANCE. STAY OUT OF THE ZONE. THAT'S SO INSTEAD OF 12FT OUT, TEN FEET OUT. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? THAT WOULD NOT BE. I DID CHECK WITH STAFF TO HAVE THE EXACT NUMBERS, AND THEY'RE THE ONES THAT APPROVED THE PERMITS ON HOW TO GET IT DONE. YEAH, WE'RE CERTAINLY HAPPY TO MEET AFTER THE MEETING OR SET UP A MEETING WITH YOU SOMETIME THIS WEEK TO GO OVER OPTIONS. SO WOULD THAT OBVIATE THE NEED FOR A VARIANCE THEN IF WE DID THAT? THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HAPPY TO DISCUSS WITH YOU. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. THANK YO. GO GET YOUR PAPERWORK AND GET IT DONE. YEAH. THANK YOU. MINDS THE SAME THING. IT'S LIKE THIS ISN'T A UNIQUE CONDITION. IT CAN BE SOLVED IN ANOTHER MANNER. AND SO WITHOUT A VARIANCE, WE COULD DO IT THAT WAY. ALL RIGHT. WELL, YOU KNOW, VOTE TO. OH, WAIT. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. TAKES US TO OUR NEXT ITEM VARIANCE 62 2024. CAN WE HEAR FROM STAFF, PLEASE. THANK YOU. THIS, SECOND PROPERTY WILL ALSO BE IN THE NOTTINGHAM SUBDIVISION. THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY VACANT AND IT IS LOCATED WEST OF NOTTINGHAM LOOP, RIGHT HERE AND NORTH OF PARKSIDE DRIVE. AS HIGHLIGHTED. HIGHLIGHTED IN RED. THE APPLICANT SEEKS A VARIANCE TO BUILD A HOME WITHOUT A FRONT PORCH, WHICH IS REQUIRED BY THE NOTTINGHAM TREES ZONING TEXT AND THE PROPERTY OWNER SEEKS A LARGER SUNROOM, WHICH LEAVES

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HISTORICALLY, THE CITY BOARDS HAVE NOT APPROVED SUCH VARIANCES FOR CONSTRUCTION AND UTILITY EASEMENTS. DURING THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN PROCESS, THE PLANNING COMMISSION REQUIRED FRONT PORCH PORCHES ON PROMINENT STREETS, AS SHOWN IN RED ON THIS SLIDE HERE, INCLUDING PARKSIDE DRIVE. THIS IS BECAUSE THE DESIGN OF THE HOME IS NOT A TYPICAL STANDARD FOR NEW ALBANY.

TO ENHANCE THE ARCHITECTURAL QUALITY AND REDUCE THE VISUAL IMPACT OF DOUBLE BAY GARAGE DOORS, THEY REQUIRED FRONT PORCHES TO EMPHASIZE AND FRAME THE FRONT DOORS. THE VARIANCE APPEARS TO BE SUBSTANTIAL IN CHANGING THE STREET DESIGN OF THE SUBDIVISION. ALTERING THE DESIGN WOULD CONSEQUENTLY CHANGE THE CHARACTER OF THE STREET SUBSTANTIALLY BY REMOVING THE PORCH. THE HOME DESIGN IS INCONSISTENT WITH NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES AND ARCHITECTURAL QUALITY, BECAUSE WITHOUT A FRONT PORCH, IT EMPHASIZES THE GARAGE DOORS WHICH FRONTS ONTO THE PUBLIC STREET. THE VARIANCE COULD BE SOLVED IN ANOTHER MANNER BY CHANGING THE FLOOR PLAN. DESIGN. THE NOTTINGHAM TREE SUBDIVISION HAS NUMEROUS PRE-APPROVED BUILDING AND FLOOR PLAN DESIGNS, AND THE SUNROOM COULD BE DESIGNED SO THAT IT IS WIDER AND LESS DEEP, OR AND THE REAR YARD, PATIO OR OTHER UNUSED BACKYARD SPACE. KIND OF LIKE THIS CORNER HERE COULD ACCOMMODATE A LARGER SUNROOM OF THE SAME PROPORTION. THIS COULD ALSO ALLOW THE SUNROOM AND THE FRONT COVERED PATIO. I MEAN FRONT COVERED PORCH. IT DOES NOT APPEAR THAT THE LITERAL INTERPRETATION OF THE PROVISIONS OF THE CODE WOULD DEPRIVE THE APPLICANT OF RIGHTS COMMONLY ENJOYED BY OTHER PROPERTIES, BECAUSE THIS VARIANCE SEEKS APPROVAL FOR A LARGER SUNROOM EXTENSION AT THE REAR OF THE HOME, EXTENDING 13FT COMPARED TO THE TYPICAL SEVEN FEET AS STATED BY THE APPLICANT, 79% OF THE HOMES IN NOTTINGHAM HAVE A SUNROOM. THIS PROPERTY COULD HAVE A STANDARD SIZE ONE WITHOUT AN EXTENSION. THERE DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE ANY SPECIAL CONDITIONS AND CIRCUMSTANCES THAT EXIST, WHICH ARE PECULIAR TO THE LAND OR STRUCTURE, BECAUSE THE PROPERTY HAS SIMILAR CHARACTERISTICS OF OTHER NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES, WITH EASEMENTS AND UTILITIES THAT PROHIBIT ENCROACHMENTS, THE DEVELOPERS HOMES DO NOT MEET THE CITY'S ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS, SO THE SUBDIVISION IS EXEMPT FROM THE CITY'S DESIGN GUIDELINES. DESIGN GUIDELINES AND REQUIREMENTS. TO ENSURE THE HOME IS STILL IN LINE WITH THE SPIRIT OF THE DESIGN GUIDELINES AND REQUIREMENTS SPECIFIC REGULATIONS WERE SET BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WHICH REQUIRED FRONT PORCHES ON PARKSIDE DRIVE TO HIGHLIGHT ENTRYWAYS AND REDUCE THE VISUAL IMPACT OF DOUBLE BAY GARAGE DOORS. A SMALLER, TYPICAL SUNROOM COULD FIT ON THE LOT, ALLOWING FOR THE INCLUSION OF A COVERED FRONT PORCH, AND AT THIS TIME, CITY STAFF WILL TAKE QUESTIONS. ANY ENGINEERING? NO ENGINEERING. THANK YOU.

QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. CAN WE HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT, PLEASE? OKAY GOOD EVENING. SORRY, THAT'S VERY LOUD, NIKKI MARTIN, PULTE HOMES OF OHIO, 475 METRO PLACE, SOUTH DUBLIN, GOOD EVENING, CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A UNIQUE REQUEST, AND ONE WE TYPICALLY WOULD NOT BRING BEFORE YOU, I DO RECOGNIZE THAT THIS PROSPECTIVE PROPERTY OWNER DOES HAVE A WIDE VARIETY OF FLOOR PLANS THAT THEY COULD CHOOSE FROM. THIS FLOOR PLAN ON LOT 145 HAPPENS TO BE THE ONE THAT THEY CHOSE, THROUGH DISCUSSIONS WITH THE PROSPECTIVE HOMEOWNER DUE TO THE FACT THAT WE NO LONGER HAVE ANY LOTS AVAILABLE IN NOTTINGHAM. TRACE, THEY DECIDED THAT THEY WANTED TO WAIT. THE TWO ISH MONTHS TO APPEAR BEFORE THIS COMMISSION IN ORDER TO ASK THE QUESTION IF THEY COULD HAVE THE HOME THAT THEY DESIRE WITH THE AMENITIES THAT THEY DESIRE ON THE LOT THAT'S AVAILABLE. SO, RECOGNIZING THAT THERE ARE CERTAINLY A VARIETY OF OPTIONS, I DO WANT TO DISCUSS, WHY PULTE THOUGHT IT WAS WORTH ASKING THE QUESTION, THIS LOT WITHIN NOTTINGHAM TRACE IS ON PARKSIDE DRIVE, WHICH DOES HAVE, THREE ARCHITECTURAL REQUIREMENTS ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT I'LL CALL A STANDARD LOT. THE FIRST BEING THAT THE GARAGE CANNOT PROTRUDE FORWARD OF THE BUILDING. THE PROPOSAL CONTINUES TO MEET THAT REQUIREMENT. THE SECOND ARCHITECTURAL REQUIREMENT THAT THIS LOT HAS IS THAT IT APPEAR

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THE PRODUCT SHOWN ON THE SCREEN IS A DIFFERENT HOME. SO IF THE OWNER HAD WANTED TO SELECT A DIFFERENT HOME, THEY COULD HAVE AND IT WOULD HAVE A DIFFERENT SIZE SUNROOM IN A DIFFERENT LOCATION, WITH THAT, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, THIS IS AN AMENITY THAT'S COMMONLY ENJOYED. SO. YEAH THANK YOU. QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION. ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS? I MOVE FOR ACCEPTANCE OF THE STAFF REPORT AND RELATED DOCUMENTS INTO THE RECORD, AND NOTING THAT WE WERE HANDED A LETTER AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING. DO I HEAR A SECOND FOR THE DOCUMENTS? I'LL SECOND THAT. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE DOCUMENTS? MOTION DO THE ROLL, PLEASE, MR. KIRBY. YES. MR. SHELL. YES. MISS BRIGGS. YES. MR. LAWSON. YES. THE MOTION PASSES. THERE ARE FOUR VOTES IN FAVOR OF ADMISSION OF THE DOCUMENTS, INCLUDING THE LETTER THAT WAS DISTRIBUTED THIS EVENING. I MOVE APPROVAL. VARIANCE 62, 2024. BASED ON WHAT'S IN THE STAFF REPORT. AND THERE ARE NO CONDITIONS. DO I HEAR A SECOND? SECOND. TAKE ONE.

GO AHEAD. BRUCE. I'LL TAKE IT. OKAY. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ON THE VARIANCE? COULD YOU THE ROLL, PLEASE? MR. KIRBY? NO. MR. LAWSON. NO MR. SHELL. NO MISS BRIGGS. NO THE MOTION FAILS. THERE ARE FOUR VOTES AGAINST IT GOING THROUGH. YOU'RE WELCOME. GOING THROUGH THE DUNCAN CRITERIA. ASIDE FROM FOUR AND 12, THIS WHICH DON'T APPLY HERE. I THINK IT FAILS ON ALL THE REST OF THE 12 DUNCAN CRITERIA. I'LL SECOND THAT. AGREED. SAME HERE. OKAY. TAKES US TO VARIANCE 63 2024. CAN I HEAR FROM STAFF, PLEASE? AT THE .22 ACRE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE WOODHAVEN SUBDIVISION AND CONTAINS A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HOME. THE APPLICANT REQUESTS A VARIANCE TO THE WOODHAVEN RECORDED PLAT TO ALLOW A DECK TO ENCROACH TWO FEET INTO A 20 FOOT PLATTED DRAINAGE EASEMENT, AS SHOWN HERE ON THE SITE. PLAN DEPICTED BY THE ORANGE DASHED LINE. FOR BACKGROUND, THE APPLICANT DID RECEIVE A PERMIT FOR CONSTRUCTION. HOWEVER, AN ADDITIONAL TWO FEET WAS ADDED TO THE DECK DURING CONSTRUCTION.

THE APPLICANT NOTIFIED STAFF OF THE ENCROACHMENT AND STAFF DIRECTED THEM TO APPLY FOR A VARIANCE. HERE IS A PICTURE OF THE DECK INDICATING THE TWO FEET OVERHANG. THE FOOTERS ARE OUTSIDE OF THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT, SO ONLY THE OVERHANG ENCROACHES INTO IT WITH NO CONSTRUCTION ON THE GROUND WITHIN THE EASEMENT. IMPORTANTLY, WITH THE FOOTERS OUTSIDE OF THE EASEMENT THERE. THIS WILL NOT AFFECT THE SURFACE FLOW OF STORMWATER. THE VARIANCE DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE SUBSTANTIAL. THE CITY'S ENGINEERING STAFF REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND CONFIRMED THAT THERE ARE NO PUBLIC UTILITIES INSTALLED IN THE EASEMENT ON THE LOT IN QUESTION. ADDITIONALLY, THE DECKS FOOTERS ARE OUTSIDE OF THE EASEMENT, SO THERE IS NO PART OF THE STRUCTURE OCCUPYING THE EASEMENT ON THE GROUND. IF APPROVED, STAFF WILL STAMP PLANS WITH A HOLD HARMLESS AGREEMENT NOTIFYING THE PROPERTY OWNER THAT THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE EXPENSE OF REPLACING OR REPAIRING THE STRUCTURE. IF A UTILITY PROVIDER SHOULD REMOVE IT. LASTLY, THE APPLICANT STATES THAT THE DECK SITS FOUR FEET ABOVE GRADE ON POST, WHICH REQUIRES THE AREA UNDER THE DECK TO BE SCREENED. IF APPROVED, STAFF RECOMMENDS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL THAT THE APPLICANT PROVIDE SCREENING UNDERNEATH THE DECK OUTSIDE OF THE DRAINAGE

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SO THE APPLICANT IS MOST OF THE NEIGHBORS. OKAY. DO WE HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT? PLEASE. HELLO, I'M BRANDON BELL WITH BOB WEBB HOMES, YES. THIS WAS A MISUNDERSTANDING OF GOING INTO CONTRACT WITH THE CUSTOMER, NOT UNDERSTANDING, YOU KNOW, ALBANY RULE ON A DRAINAGE EASEMENT.

TYPICALLY, YOU KEEP ALL THE STRUCTURES OUT OF IT, BUT A CANTILEVER, IS ALWAYS BEEN TYPICALLY ALLOWED WHERE WE'VE BUILT IN THE PAST. AND, WE DO OWN ALL THE OTHER LOTS ALONG THERE. WE UNDERSTAND THE RULE AT THIS POINT. NO PATIOS, NO NOTHING CAN BE IN THAT AREA. BUT WITH WHAT WAS SOLD TO THIS CUSTOMER AND THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE IS NOTHING BUT SURFACE WATER THAT WILL BE FLOWING THROUGH THAT DRAINAGE EASEMENT, YOU KNOW, WE THEY HAD ASKED IF WE COULD, YOU KNOW, GIVE THEM A LITTLE BIGGER LIVING AREA FOR THE HOME THAN WHAT WAS GOING TO BE GIVEN. SO THEY SORT OF HANDICAPPED A LITTLE BIT. WHEN WE WENT IN FOR ZONING, WE GAVE A 20 FOOT TREE PRESERVE, WHICH WE WANTED TO GIVE AND KEEP THERE. AND THEN WE HAD TO START THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT IN ANOTHER 20FT. SO IT SORT OF HANDICAPPED THIS A LITTLE BIT ON THOSE LOTS AS FAR AS OUTDOOR LIVING. BUT, THAT'S WHERE THIS TWO FOOT IS COMING FROM. OKAY THANK YOU.

QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION. IS THAT TWO FOOT EXTENSION? IS THAT A SITTING AREA OF THE DECK? YES. YES. SO WHAT IF YOU TOOK THAT OUT? WHAT HAPPENS IF THE DECK GETS SMALLER? REMIND US THE DIMENSIONS OF IT. THE DIMENSIONS OF THE DECK. YEAH. I APOLOGIZE, I DON'T KNOW. SIERRA. SORRY YES? I NEED YOU TO REPEAT YOUR NAME INTO THE MIC SO THAT STAFF GETS IT. THANK YOU. DENNIS ALSO, BOB WEBB, THANK YOU. IT LOOKS TO BE 15FT WIDE. YEAH. 15 BY. IS IT? YEAH SEVEN. THERE'LL BE A DECK.

ABOUT. OH COVERED BY THE UNCOVERED DECK. IS ABOUT SIX FEET. ABOUT 15 BY SIX. YES, 15 BY SIX. WITH THE UNCOVERED 14. THERE'S ALSO THE COVERED PORTION. ANDREW, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? OH, I WAS JUST I THINK I WAS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND MY MIC IS ON. HOPEFULLY YOU CAN HEAR ME. IF YOU FELT THAT THE DECK WOULD BE USABLE IF THERE WERE TWO, IT WAS TWO FEET SHORTER. THE PART OUTSIDE OF THAT AREA THAT'S COVERED WOULD BE MAYBE A COUPLE CHAIRS WOULD BE VERY HARD TO GET A TABLE WITH ANY CHAIRS AROUND IT. WITHOUT THAT TWO FOOT EXTENSION. OKAY BUT THE COVERED PORTION, THERE COULD BE A TABLE AND CHAIRS. CORRECT. LIKE THERE'S A SUBSTANTIAL PIECE THAT IS STILL. THAT IS PART OF IT. THAT'S NOT OUT IN THE. THAT WOULD BE COVERED, CORRECT? YES. OTHER QUESTIONS. ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WITH QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I MOVE TO ACCEPT THE STAFF REPORTS AND RELATED DOCUMENTS INTO THE RECORD FOR VARIANCE 63. DO I HEAR A SECOND ON THE MOTION? SECOND. AND ANY DISCUSSION ON THE DOCUMENTS? GO TO THE ROLL, PLEASE. MR. KIRBY? YES, MISS BRIGGS? YES. MR. LARSON? YES. MR. SHELL. YES.

MOTION PASSES. THERE ARE FOUR VOTES TO ADMIT THE DOCUMENT TO YOUR MOTION FOR THE VARIANCE ITSELF. I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE VARIANCE 632024 PER THE STAFF REPORT, WHICH IS. THE COMMENTS

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NO. MISS BRIGGS. NO. MR. KIRBY. NO MR. SHELL. NO THE MOTION FAILS WITH ZERO VOTES IN FAVOR AND FOUR VOTES AGAINST. MY REASON IS THERE'S A SOLUTION. THAT THE DECK IS STILL USABLE EVEN WITHOUT THE VARIANCE. AND IT'S NOT NEEDED. AND IT SETS A PRECEDENCE THAT WOULD BE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. YEAH, I JUST AGREE WITH THAT. AND AGAIN, THAT WHOLE PRECEDENT THING, ONCE WE ONCE WE GO DOWN THAT PATH, IT'S REALLY HARD TO SAY NO IN THE FUTURE, EVEN THOUGH YOU SAY WE WON'T DO IT. WE'RE OUR HANDS ARE TIED. IF YOU DO, DO IT. YEAH. NO, I UNDERSTAND, AND SIERRA HAD MENTIONED THAT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF UNDERGROUND UTILITIE, THERE'S A REASON WHY IF PEOPLE HAVE TO GET IN THERE AND WORK, THAT THAT IS A REASON. AND BEHIND THE SLOT, THERE IS NO UNDERGROUND UTILITIES. IT IS STRICTLY JUST SURFACE WATER, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, DRAINING THER.

THERE'S NOTHING THERE. YEAH. THERE'S NO UNDERGROUND UTILITIES TODAY. CORRECT. MY UNDERSTANDING IS IT WAS JUST FOR THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT PART, NOT NECESSARILY FOR A UTILITY EASEMENT SECTION.

IT'S FOR THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT THAT WE HAD TO STAY OUT OF. BUT BUT THE POINT HE'S MAKING IS THAT ANY UTILITY COULD COME AT ANY TIME. RIGHT. AS, NEIL. WHAT? YOU'RE KIND OF THE PATH THAT YOU'RE GOING DOWN. DRAINAGE AND UTILITY EASEMENT. THEN IT IS AVAILABLE FOR UTILITIES SHOULD THEY NEED IT. THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT IS THAT IS MAINLY JUST FOR DRAINAGE. SO THERE WOULD BE SOME UTILITIES THAT WOULD BE RESTRICTED FROM THAT AREA AS WELL. BUT STILL TO YOUR POINT.

THANK YOU. I ALSO FIND IT DOESN'T MEET THE DUNCAN CRITERIA IN PARTICULAR. THE ONE ABOUT, GIVING THE APPLICANT A CERTAIN SOMETHING THAT IS NOT CONFERRED TO OTHERS IN THE SAME ZONING DISTRICT. AND I CONCUR AS WELL. BOTH ON THE PRECEDENT PIECE. BUT THEN ALSO BRUCE NOTED AND THAT IS THAT THE COVERED PORTION OF THE DECK IS OBVIOUSLY USABLE. AND WITH THAT, WE'RE DOING THE HAMLET. SO I LIKE I'M HEARING FOR FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN 53 2024. HAMLET. CAN WE HEAR FROM STAFF? YES. BEFORE I GET STARTED, I DO NEED TO SWITCH SOME PRESENTATIONS OVER REALLY QUICK. AND THEN THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD DID HEAR THIS APPLICATION LAST WEEK DURING THEIR MEETING AND RECOMMEND RECOMMENDS APPROVAL TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THEY DID HAVE SOME CONDITIONS THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THEIR MOTION. I HAVE THIS PRINTED OUT. I'M GOING TO GET UP AND SHARE THOSE WITH YOU HERE IN JUST A SECOND. BEAR WITH ME FOR JUST A MOMENT. GO FOR IT. HERE. IT IS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THE FIRST REQUEST THIS YEAR. THANKS.

OKAY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. THERE SO, AS YOU MENTIONED, THIS IS A FINAL DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION FOR THE HAMLET DEVELOPMENT PROJECT, JUST IN CASE ANYONE IS UNFAMILIAR WITH WHERE THIS IS AT, THIS SITE IS LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST AND SOUTHEAST CORNERS OF THE 605 AND CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD INTERSECTION, HOPEFULLY YOU ALL FOUND YOUR BINDERS TO BE USEFUL FOR THIS APPLICATION. AS YOU PROBABLY HAVE NOTICED, THIS IS, QUITE THE HAUL FOR AN APPLICATION. WE DON'T REALLY SEE APPLICATIONS THIS LARGE, SO I DO WANT TO THANK THE APPLICANT FOR WORKING WITH US TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS ALL PUT TOGETHER IN A NICE WAY TO PRESENT IT TO YOU GUYS, THERE ARE SOME EXTRA PACKETS BACK HERE AT THE BACK TABLE IF ANYONE NEEDS AN EXTRA COPY, AND THEN FOLKS AT HOME, IF YOU WANT TO VIEW THE SAME INFORMATION, WE HAVE TWO WAYS ON OUR WEBSITE THAT YOU CAN GAIN ACCESS TO THIS THE HAMLET WEBSITE. THERE'S QR CODES HERE ON YOUR SCREEN. YOU CAN FIND THE PACKET THERE WITH THE QR CODE ON YOUR LEFT. AND THEN IF YOU WANT TO SEE SOME CASE HISTORY WITH THIS APPLICATION AND OTHER APPLICATIONS THAT ARE HEARD BY

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THE APPLICANT HAS PROACTIVELY MET THAT REQUIREMENT BEFORE COMING BEFORE THE BOARD TONIGHT, SO THAT THAT CONDITION IS ADDRESSED. AND THEN LAST WEEK, THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD MET TO REVIEW THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPLICATION, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, I DID PUT THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL IN FRONT OF YOU. WE'LL GO OVER THOSE HERE IN A MINUTE. BUT THEY DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE APPLICATION WITH SOME CONDITIONS THAT WERE BY AND LARGE, IF NOT ALL, RELATED TO ARCHITECTURE, JUST TO WORK THOSE CONDITIONS WITH CITY STAFF AND THE CITY ARCHITECT AS WE MOVE THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS. SO THEY REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND MADE A RECOMMENDATION TO THIS GROUP HERE, THE PLANNING COMMISSION, FOR APPROVAL OF THE APPLICATION AND THE WAIVERS THAT ARE BEING REQUESTED. AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT TONIGHT IN THIS BLUE BOX HERE IN THE FAR RIGHT HAND SIDE OF YOUR SCREEN, TO GET THIS FINAL APPROVAL FOR THIS APPLICATION TYPE. SO JUST TO GIVE YOU JUST TO GIVE YOU GUYS A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW HERE, THE APPLICANTS GOT LOTS OF FOLKS HERE TO TALK ABOUT THIS APPLICATION AND, FINER DETAIL.

SO I'LL JUST FOCUS ON KIND OF THE HIGHLIGHTS AND FOLLOWING THE OUTLINE OF OUR STAFF REPORT. SO THIS IS THE SITE PLAN. THIS IS A RENDERED SITE PLAN HERE. SO, THE SITE IS REALLY ORGANIZED AROUND THE SUGAR RUN PARK HERE, IN THE CENTER OF THE SITE. AND THEN THE MIXED USE COMMERCIAL CORE IS LOCATED IN THIS AREA. AND THEN WE HAVE DIFFERENT FORMS AND VARIATIONS OF RESIDENTIAL THAT KIND OF SURROUND THE OTHER SPACES. THIS THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND THE ZONING TEXT IS BROKEN UP INTO DIFFERENT SUB AREAS, WHICH WE'LL GO THROUGH HERE IN DETAIL IN A MINUTE, SUB AREA ONE AGAIN IS WHERE THE COMMERCIAL USES ARE ALLOWED, AS WELL AS THE FLATS BUILDING. SUB AREA TWO IS MADE UP OF TOWNHOMES. SUB AREA THREE IS A MIXTURE OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES DUPLEXES AND THEN SUB. AREA FIVE IS ALL SINGLE FAMILY CUSTOM HOMES THAT WILL BE DEVELOPED IN THAT AREA. SIMILAR TO WHAT'S, YOU KNOW, HOW DIFFERENT SECTIONS OF THE COUNTRY CLUB HAVE DEVELOPED OVER THE YEARS? THOSE WILL ALL BE CUSTOM AND BUILT AS BUYERS PURCHASE THOSE LOTS. SO THIS IS THE PARK LAND AND OPEN SPACE SHEET, AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE ARE PLENTY OF LEISURE TRAIL AND SIDEWALK CONNECTIONS PROVIDED THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT, WE'VE REALLY WORKED HARD WITH THE DEVELOPER OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, ALL THESE CONNECTIONS MAKE SENSE, THAT THERE'S GREEN SPACE PROVIDED AND ALL THE DIFFERENT SUB AREAS AND EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THAT ALL OF THEM ARE CONNECTED WITH PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS, BOTH WITHIN THE SUB AREAS, BUT ALL LEADING DOWN TO THE CENTRAL PARK AREA. AND THEN THE MORE REGIONAL CONNECTIONS DOWN TOWARDS THE VILLAGE CENTER INTO THE LINKS AND SOME OF THE OTHER SUBDIVISIONS TO THE EAST. THE ZONING TEXT REQUIRES AND OUR CITY CODE REQUIRES, THAT A MINIMUM OF 25% PARKLAND AND OPEN SPACE HAS TO BE DEDICATED AS

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THIS IS THE IN SUB AREA ONE. THIS IS THE COMMERCIAL PIECE HERE. THEY'RE ACHIEVING THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE ZONING DISTRICT. THEY'RE ACHIEVING FOUR SIDED, VERY, VERY HIGH QUALITY ARCHITECTURE, THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT. BUT THIS, THIS ONE SPECIFICALLY AS WELL HERE WITH THE COMMERCIAL PIECE. THIS IS THE FLATS BUILDING, AGAIN, VERY, VERY HIGH QUALITY LEVEL OF ARCHITECTURE, ON ALL FOUR SIDES OF THE BUILDING. THE SITE THIS BUILDING SPECIFICALLY IS VERY UNIQUE AS IT HAS REALLY TWO FRONTS. IT HAS A FRONT ON THE MAIN SPINE ROAD HERE, IN THE DEVELOPMENT, BUT IT ALSO IS REALLY UNIQUE POSITION TO FRONT ONTO THE CREEK THERE. SO WE REALLY WORKED WITH THEM WITH THE CITY ARCHITECT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE ADDRESSING BOTH OF THOSE

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SO SUB FIVE AGAIN THIS IS GOING TO BE DEVELOPED VERY VERY SIMILARLY. ALMOST EVEN LOOKS LIKE ELY IF YOU LOOK AT IT. BUT IT WILL BE DEVELOPED VERY SIMILAR TO ELY AND OTHER SECTIONS OF OUR COUNTRY CLUB, YOU KNOW THE LINK SUBDIVISION, QUITE A FEW SUBDIVISIONS FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVES. YOU KNOW, A CERTAIN SET OF ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS AND THEN, WE VERIFY THAT THOSE ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS ARE BEING MET THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS WITH THE CITY ARCHITECT. THAT WILL BE THE SAME APPROACH FOR SUB AREA FIVE, WHERE THEY'LL BE COMPLETELY CUSTOM LOTS, CUSTOM HOME DESIGNS THAT ARE REALLY DRIVEN BY THE NEEDS OF THE END USER, BUT AGAIN, WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THE, ALL OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS ARE MET THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS. THEY DID SUBMIT AN ARCHITECTURAL NARRATIVE FOR THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT, BUT ALSO SPECIFICALLY FOR SUB AREA FIVE, JUST SHOWING SOME CHARACTER IMAGES SIMILAR TO WHAT THE NEW ALBANY COMPANY HAS DONE FOR THEIR THEIR COUNTRY CLUB SECTIONS. JUST SHOWING WHAT THE DESIGN INTENT IS FOR THIS, THIS NEIGHBORHOOD OR FOR SUB FIVE SPECIFICALLY. SO LASTLY, I WANT TO TOUCH ON THE WAIVERS. SO SEVERAL WAIVERS WERE SUBMITTED AS PART OF THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPLICATION. I DO WANT TO MAKE NOTE JUST BECAUSE IT IS THIS THE WAIVER. THEY ARE WAIVERS. THEY'RE NOT VARIANCES. AND THE CRITERIA FOR WAIVERS IS A LOT DIFFERENT THAN THE CRITERIA FOR THE DUNCAN FACTORS FOR VARIANCE APPLICATIONS. SO THIS IS THE CRITERIA THAT THE BOARD FOR THE ZONING TEXT ARE. THIS IS THE CRITERIA THAT THE BOARD SHOULD USE TO EVALUATE THESE REQUESTS, FOR THIS APPLICATION. SO I'LL WALK THROUGH THESE WITH YOU HERE. BUT THE APPLICANT WILL WALK THROUGH THEM WITH YOU IN MUCH GREATER DETAIL. BUT JUST TO PROVIDE SOME HIGHLIGHTS FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE AND THE STAFF REPORT. SO WAIVER A IS TO ALLOW FOR FOOT SIDEWALKS ALONG PUBLIC STREETS AND VERY LIMITED LOCATIONS. THE LIMITED LOCATION WOULD BE ALONG THIS INTERNAL. THE INSIDE OF THIS INTERNAL STREET HERE AND SUBAREA FIVE ALONG BOTH SIDES OF THIS INTERNAL STREET AND SUBAREA THREE AND THEN MAYBE VERY VERY TINY PORTIONS OF THIS LITTLE LOOP. MOST OF THIS IS GOING TO BE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, SO THEY CAN BE FOUR FEET, BUT THERE MIGHT BE PORTIONS WHERE IT INTERSECTS WITH PUBLIC, PUBLIC SIDEWALK WHERE IT WOULD NEED TO BE FOUR FEET IN SIZE, YOU KNOW, OVERALL STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THAT WAIVER REQUEST. WE BELIEVE THAT IT PROVIDES AN APPROPRIATE PATTERN OF DESIGN. THE APPLICANT, THEIR GOAL IS TO CREATE IN THOSE SPECIFIC AREAS, CREATE A DESIGN, EMULATE A DESIGN THAT'S BEEN ACHIEVED IN MANY DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE COMMUNITY THROUGHOUT THE NEW ALBANY COUNTRY CLUB. THERE'S, YOU KNOW, WHEN THERE'S NARROW STREETS AND SMALLER SETBACKS AND SMALLER LOTS WE'VE APPROVED, STANDARDS TO ALLOW FOR FOOT SIDEWALKS TO BE INSTALLED. AN EXAMPLE THAT COMES OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD IS ELLIE ASHTON GROVE AND MANY, MANY OTHER SECTIONS OF THE COUNTRY CLUB HAVE WHERE THERE ARE SIDEWALKS, HAVE REDUCED, SIDEWALK SIZES, LET'S SEE, WAIVER B, WHERE ARE YOU? I'M SORRY. OH, HERE WE GO. SO WAIVER B RIGHT HERE. THIS IS A WAIVER. SO THE ZONING TEXT STATES THAT ONLY TOWNHOMES ARE ALLOWED TO FRONT ONTO STATE ROUTE 605 AND SUBAREA THREE. SO THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO INSIST ON THESE TWO LOTS JUST DUE TO KIND OF SPACING AND SIZING AND TRYING TO PROTECT THIS, THIS PARKLAND AND OPEN SPACE HERE AND CREATE A REALLY STRONG, ARCHITECTURAL PRESENCE AT THE ENTRANCE OF THIS, THIS DEVELOPMENT. THEY PROPOSE TO HAVE TWO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON THESE LOTS HERE, YOU KNOW, FROM

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THIS ONE SPECIFICALLY, IT WAS A VOTE OF FIVE TWO. THE TWO DISSENTING MEMBERS BELIEVE THAT THERE WERE OTHER, YOU KNOW, TOWNHOMES, YOU KNOW, COULD BE PROVIDED THERE WITHOUT A PROBLEM OR THEY SHOULD BE PROVIDED THERE TO PROVIDE MORE OF THAT ARCHITECTURAL PRESENCE ALONG THAT STREET, AND THEN THERE WERE SOME COMMENTS ABOUT JUST MAKING SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THIS COULD JUST BE USED AS PARKS AND OPEN SPACE INSTEAD OF HOMES. VERSUS GRANTING THE WAIVER, ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE ON THIS ONE, I MIGHT GO BACK. SO JUST BEAR WITH ME HERE, ON THAT LOT WHERE THE WAIVER IS REQUESTED, THE APPLICANT DOES PROPOSE AND IS WORKING WITH CITY STAFF AND CITY ARCHITECT TO REALLY ENCLOSE THAT LOT, SIMILAR TO HOW. OH, GOSH, I FORGET THE SUBDIVISION. THERE'S A SUBDIVISION THAT KIND OF BACKS ONTO THE NEW ALBANY COUNTRY CLU, THEY CREATE A WALL OR A DIFFERENT LANDSCAPE TREATMENT TO REALLY PROVIDE A VERY STRONG VISUAL SEPARATION BETWEEN THE LOT AND THE PARKING AND OPEN SPACE THAT IT SURROUNDS. SO THEY DO. WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM AND THE CITY ARCHITECT TO FINALIZE THAT DESIGN. BUT THAT IS THE INTENT FOR THAT LOT RIGHT THERE, AND I'LL LET THEM, TALK WITH YOU ABOUT THAT HERE IN A MINUTE. WE EVER SEE. SO WAIVER C IS TO ALLOW A 44 FOOT TALL TOWNHOMES IN CERTAIN PORTIONS OF SUBAREA TWO, WHERE THE TEXT ONLY ALLOWS 40 FOOT TALL TOWNHOMES. IN ADDITION, DUE TO THAT HEIGHT, THE APPLICANT ALSO REQUEST A WAIVER TO ALLOW THOSE TO HAVE A, ARCHITECTURAL EXPRESSION OF THREE AND A HALF STORIES OR THE GDR STATE THAT THEY SHOULD BE THREE STORIES IN HEIGHT. SO I MIGHT BACK UP A FEW IMAGES HERE. SO AGAIN, PARDON FOR THE MOTION SICKNESS. SO THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON HERE THAT WE EVALUATE IN OUR STAFF REPORT. WE REALLY BELIEVE THAT, YOU KNOW, SERVE AS GOOD JUSTIFICATION FOR GRANTING THE WAIVER. SO IF YOU LOOK THIS SHEET HERE, SO THIS IS THE THIS IS WHAT YOU WOULD SEE ALONG STATE ROUTE 605. THIS IS THE TOWNHOME PRODUCT. AS YOU CAN SEE IT'S TWO AND A HALF STORY ARCHITECTURAL EXPRESSION. THIS IS ACTUALLY UNDER 40FT HERE OR AT 40FT ALONG THIS ROADWAY. SIMILAR SIMILARLY ALONG CENTRAL COLLEGE ROAD, YOU'RE ABLE TO ACHIEVE THE SAME TREATMENT. SO THE SITE ACTUALLY GRADES BACK DOWN TOWARDS THE CREEK. SO THE GRADE IS REALLY KIND OF DRIVING THE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT ALONG CENTRAL COLLEGE AND STATE ROUTE 605, DUE TO THE GRADE CHANGE THAT THAT THIRD STORY OR THAT THIRD LEVEL CAN BE BURIED AT THE GRADE. SO AT THE BACK OF THESE UNITS, IT'LL LOOK LIKE RICHMOND SQUARE, WHERE IF YOU GO BACK ON MCDONALD LANE, YOU'LL SEE ALL THREE STORIES. IT'S HIDDEN BY THE GRADE. SO BECAUSE DUE TO THE GRADE CHANGE DOWN TO THE CREEK, THE APPLICANT ISN'T ABLE TO EMULATE THAT FOR EVERY SECTION OF TOWNHOMES THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE SUB AREA TOO.

BUT WHAT THEY ARE ABLE TO DO IS THAT THEY THEY ARE ASKING FOR A WAIVER TO DO 44FT AND HAVE A THREE AND A HALF STORY TOWNHOME. BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, THE BUILDINGS NEVER EXTEND FAR BEYOND WHAT IS BEING DEVELOPED ON CENTER COLLEGE AND 605 DUE TO THE GRADE CHANGE, THE BUILDINGS STAY AT THE SAME LEVEL. ADDITIONALLY, THE APPLICANT HAS THE ABILITY TO AND THIS IS THIS IS KIND OF SOMETHING THAT CAME THROUGHOUT OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CITY ARCHITECT. YOU KNOW, THE APPLICANT COULD COME IN AND DEVELOP A 40 FOOT TALL TOWNHOME WITH A FLAT ROOF. YOU KNOW, PHILADELPHIA STYLE OR BALTIMORE STYLE. MEET ALL OF OUR DIFFERENT ARCHITECTURAL REQUIREMENTS AND NO WAIVERS WOULD BE NEEDED. THE CITY ARCHITECT REALLY STRONGLY BELIEVES THAT, YOU KNOW, THE PITCHED ROOF, THE MORE GEORGIAN ARCHITECTURAL EXPRESSION IS REALLY WHAT THE SITE KIND OF LEANS TO. AND WHAT'S APPROPRIATE IN THIS AREA. SO WE'VE ENCOURAGED THEM TO, YOU KNOW, DO THAT RIGHT AND HAVE THAT EXTRA HALF STOREY TO MAKE SURE THAT ARCHITECTURALLY IS APPROPRIATE FOR THIS AREA. AND THAT WAIVER WAS APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY BY THE ARB AND SO WAS THE WAIVER FOR THE SIDEWALKS. I APOLOGIZE, I DIDN'T MENTION THAT. SO WAIVER D I'LL GO BACKWARDS. AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE. SO THIS IS ACTUALLY SOMETHING THE APPLICANT FOUND, THE CITY DID NOT FIND THIS. THE APPLICANT BROUGHT IT TO OUR ATTENTION. SO OUR RULES REQUIRE THAT THERE BE A, TWO FOOT, RISE OR TWO, TWO FOOT STAIRS, BASICALLY ELEVATION CHANGE BETWEEN THE GROUND AND THE FRONT DOOR OF A HOME, TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, THE FRONT

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AND YOUR STAFF REPORT THAT, 80% OF ALL THE 80% OF THE GROUND FLOOR USES HAVE TO BE, YOU KNOW, OPEN TO THE PUBLIC FOR THE EXCHANGE AND SALE OF GOODS AND SERVICES, WHICH MEANS THAT 20%, YOU KNOW, OF THE GROUND FLOOR COULD BE LIKE A LOBBY THAT LEADS UP TO THE SECOND FLOOR, WHERE AN OFFICE OFFICE TENANT COULD BE LOCATED. SO, THAT WAIVER, THERE WERE A COUPLE MEMBERS OF THE ARB THAT THAT COULDN'T FIND SITE SPECIFIC CONDITIONS, YOU KNOW, GOING BACK TO THE WAIVER CRITERIA TO HELP JUSTIFY THAT REQUEST, YOU KNOW, WE'VE OUTLINED A DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, JUSTIFICATION IN OUR STAFF REPORT FOR YOU GUYS ON THAT. WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY

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SO JUST TO GIVE A QUICK SENSE OF WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GO WITH THIS PRESENTATION, WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO KEEP IT FAIRLY LIGHT. THERE WAS A LOT OF READING AND A LOT OF INFORMATION THERE, BUT THERE ARE A FEW THINGS I DID WANT TO TOUCH ON, WE'LL KIND OF TALK ABOUT WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IN THE PAST TWO MONTHS. JUST HIT ON THE FINAL SITE, PLAN AGAIN, FINAL LANDSCAPE AND OPEN SPACE PLANS. I'LL JUST TAKE A MINUTE. THEN WE'LL GO TO THE PARK PLAN AND WE'LL GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE CONTEXT ON THE ART EXPERIENCE THAT WE ARE PROPOSING FOR THIS SITE, YOU ALL HAVE NOT MET BRIAN LOONEY IN PERSON YET, AND I'LL EXPLAIN WHO HE IS IN A MINUTE HERE, BUT HE WILL KIND OF TAKE A STEP BACK AND JUST GIVE YOU A 5 OR 10 MINUTE OVERVIEW OF HOW DID WE COME UP WITH THE PLAN, HOW DID WE COME UP WITH THE ARCHITECTURE, WHAT WAS SORT OF THE VISION GOING FROM THE STRATEGIC PLAN TO HOW WE KIND OF IMPLEMENTED THAT STORY ONTO THIS, THIS SITE AND THEN FINALLY WE WILL TALK ABOUT THOSE WAIVERS IN A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL. SO I THINK I WAS HERE ON AUGUST 5TH FOR AN INFORMAL PRESENTATION. AND I SHOWED THIS SLIDE, WHICH I'LL START WITH AGAIN. SO AGAIN, FOR TWO YEARS WE'VE BEEN KIND OF WORKING ON THIS. WHAT I DID WANT TO MENTION IS THE TEAM, KEITH MYERS IS NOT HERE TONIGHT, BUT HE'S BEEN SORT OF GUIDING US ON SOME OF THE MASTER PLANNING AND SOME OF THE ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS. BUT WE'VE GOT THE FULL ASSORTMENT HERE. FRANCO AND BRIAN FROM EMH AND T ARE KIND OF WORKING WITH US ON ALL THOSE ARCHITECTURAL AND CIVIL DETAILS. BRIAN, AS I MENTIONED, HE COMES FROM TORTI GALLAS AND ASSOCIATES OUT OF WASHINGTON, DC. HE'S WHAT WE REFERRED TO AS OUR HAMLET ARCHITECT, AND HE DRAFTED OUR PATTERN BOOK, WHICH IS OUR SORT OF INTERNAL PRIVATE DOCUMENT THAT SETS THE VISION AND THE TONE AS WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR BUILDERS, KIND OF TELLING THEM WHAT THEY NEED TO DO. I'M SURE YOU'VE MET AARON, WHO WILL KIND OF GIVE SOME OF THE NUANCE OF THE WAIVERS. AND THEN OUR LATEST ADDITION, HALEY, WHO WILL GET A CHANCE TO TALK ABOUT THE ART THAT WE ARE PROPOSING FOR THE SITE. SO OVER THE PAST TWO MONTHS, I ACTUALLY CAME BACK FROM MY FAMILY VACATION ON JULY 14TH, SO NOW WHAT HAVE WE BEEN DOING SINCE THEN? UP UNTIL TODAY, WE'VE COMPLETED FOUR PUBLIC HEARINGS, AND THIS IS OUR FIFTH. I JUST MENTIONED THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE DONE EVERYTHING WE CAN TO SEEK FEEDBACK FROM ALL OF THE BOARDS, ALL OF THE COMMUNITY. WE'VE HAD ENGAGED COMMUNITY MEMBERS COME AND GIVE FEEDBACK AND WALK THE SITE. SO WE'VE BEEN REALLY LOOKING FOR THAT ENGAGEMENT, OVER THAT TIME, WE'VE ALSO REVIEWED AND ADDRESSED DOZENS OF CITY STAFF COMMENTS THAT CHRIS MENTIONED, ABOUT 35 MCCSC LANDSCAPE COMMENTS DOWN TO EACH SPECIES OF TREE AND ALL THOSE DETAILS, ALL THE ENGINEERING COMMENTS WE HOPEFULLY WE CHECK THOSE OFF AND THEN WE'VE GONE THROUGH MULTIPLE ROUNDS WITH THE CITY ARCHITECT JUST KIND OF REFINING ALL THOSE LAST LITTLE DETAILS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE WEAVING THE ENTIRE STORY TOGETHER OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE HERE, ANOTHER THING WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IS REFINING THAT WAIVER LANGUAGE A LITTLE BIT, BECAUSE IN THESE PUBLIC MEETINGS, WE'VE GOTTEN SOME FEEDBACK PUBLICLY AND PRIVATELY JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW, OKAY, WAIVER E, CAN WE ADAPT THAT A LITTLE BIT? SO WE'RE NOT

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WE'VE ADDED THE BENCHES, WE'VE ADDED THE TRASH RECEPTACLES, CONTINUE TO REFINE THE WAY THE BRIDGES WORK AND THE PLACEMENT OF FUTURE CONNECTIONS AND ALL THOSE DETAILS. AND THEN ONE OF THE KEY PARTS OF THAT IS THE ART PROGRAM. AND SO I DID WANT TO HAVE HALEY COME UP AND GIVE JUST A LITTLE BIT OF AN OVERVIEW ON WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON, FOR THE AREA AROUND HERE IN THE SUGARLAND PARK. SO I'M GOING TO CLICK THAT SLIDE FOR HER. HI, I AM HALEY DIETER WITH HALEY GALLERY, A SMALL BUSINESS THAT'S BEEN OPERATING IN NEW ALBANY FOR COMING ON 17 YEARS. AND I WANT TO APPLAUD, STEINER AND COMPANY FOR CHOOSING A SMALL BUSINESS. A WOMAN OWNED BUSINESS TO DO THIS AND TO COME ON BOARD THIS JOURNEY BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT, I BELIEVE, FOR ART TO BE A CENTRAL PART OF ANY CITY. WE SEE WHAT IT'S DONE WITH DUBLIN. WE SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH DOWNTOWN COLUMBUS, HOW PUBLIC ART IS A VERY, VERY BIG PART OF THE COMMITMENT TO ARTS AND LEISURE, WHETHER IT'S TRAILS OR PUBLIC ART IN FRONT OF BUILDINGS, IN FRONT OF HOMES. I THINK IT'S GOING TO DISTINGUISH NEW ALBANY IN TERMS OF A COMMITMENT TO ART AND WHAT, I HAVE DONE IS REACHED OUT TO SEVERAL ARTISTS, ONE LIVES RIGHT HERE IN NEW ALBANY. IN FACT,

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AND WE ARE GOING TO LET THE ARTIST OBVIOUSLY CREATE THESE PIECES AND THEN WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A MEETING AND DISCUSS WHICH ONES WOULD BE MOST APPROPRIATE FOR THE AREAS, BILL RESCH WAS A PROPONENT OF THE WETLANDS AND OF THE HAMLET PROJECT, AND IN HOMAGE TO HIM, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE SCULPTURES IS GOING TO HAVE A VERY SMALL CARDINAL ON I. A CARDINAL REPRESENTS WHEN YOU SEE A CARDINAL, IT REPRESENTS SOMEONE WHO'S PASSED AWAY, WHO'S COMING TO SEE YOU. JUST SO YOU KNOW THAT THEY ARE THERE. IT'S ALSO THE STATE BIRD OF OHIO. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK THAT SMALL ELEMENT WILL GIVE A VERY NICE STORY TO WEAVE THROUGH ALL OF THESE SCULPTURES, THE SCULPTURES, ALONG WITH STEINER AND COMPANY, WE ARE GOING TO WORK WITH THEM ON THE CONCRETE BASES THAT WILL GO THAT THE SCULPTURES WILL SIT ON, AS WELL AS LANDSCAPING AND LIGHTING, THEY WILL BE EITHER 2D OR 3D. AND AS I SAID, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT THE ARTIST IS IN THE STATE OF OHIO BECAUSE WE REALLY WANT THIS TO BE A LOCAL, FORAY INTO THE ARTS FOR NOT ONLY THE ARTISTS TO GIVE LOCAL ARTISTS THIS OPPORTUNITY, BUT ALSO WE WOULD LIKE THEM TO BE A PART OF ART TOURS THAT WE DO EACH, EACH SCULPTURE WILL HAVE A, A CODE ON IT THAT YOU CAN PRESS ON YOUR PHONE. AND WHAT WILL COME UP IS THE PROCESS THAT EACH ARTIST TOOK TO CREATE THAT, THAT SCULPTURE I'VE ALREADY SPOKEN WITH JOSH POLAND FROM NEW ALBANY. HE'S AGREED TO PROVIDE AUDIO VISUAL HELP WITH US AND TO THE ARTISTS, WHETHER IT'S GOING TO ZANESVILLE TO WATCH THE, EVERYTHING BEING POURED, WHETHER IT'S FABRICATION OF METAL, WHETHER IT'S GLASS, WHATEVER THE ARTISTS ARE GOING TO DO, WE'RE GOING TO FOLLOW THEIR STORY. AND SO WHOEVER GOES AND TAKES A LOOK AT THAT SCULPTURE, THEY'RE GOING TO UNDERSTAND WHO THE ARTIST IS, WHAT PROCESS IT TOOK TO CREATE IT, WHAT THEIR THOUGHT PROCESS IS, WHAT HOW THEY NAMED IT. AND THERE'S GOING TO BE A DEDICATION PLAQUE ON EACH ONE OF THEM. WE'RE GOING TO INCLUDE THE NEW ALBANY SCHOOLS FOR ART WALKS.

WE'RE GOING TO INCLUDE THE SENIOR CENTER AT HEALTHY NEW ALBANY FOR ART WALKS. AND WE WANT TO INCLUDE THE COMMUNITY WHERE THEY CAN UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT THE PROCESS WAS AND WHAT THE ARTISTS WERE AIMING FOR. WHEN THEY CREATED THESE SCULPTURES. AND IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE AN EXCITING ELEMENT THAT KIND OF WEAVES ALL THE WAY AS YOU CAN SEE, IT STARTS UP HERE IN THE CIVIC GREEN, BUT THEN IT FLOWS ALONG ALL THE WAY BACK OVER TO THIS, THIS PORTION OF THE SITE AS WELL. SO NOW AS WE KIND OF CHANGE THE STYLE OF THE POWERPOINT, I WILL LET BRIAN GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THE KIND OF STORY OF HOW WE GOT TO THIS VERSION OF THE HAMLET. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. I'M BRIAN O'LOONEY, I'M A PARTNER WITH ALLISON PARTNERS. I STAND HERE

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AND YOU CAN SEE HOW THAT LEADS FROM THE WALK ACROSS INTO THE SUGAR RUN PARK. WE'VE WORKED TOGETHER NOW FOR OVER 20 YEARS. WE FIGURED, DALLAS AND STEINER AND FROM THAT COLLABORATION, WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD SENSE OF HOW TO. AND THEY HAVE AN INCREDIBLE SENSE OF HOW TO, TEN TENANT AND ACTIVATE, WALKABLE FRONTAGES FOR RETAIL PLACES. EVERYONE HERE HAS BEEN TO HOUSTON. WE ALL KNOW WHAT THE KIND OF QUALITY THAT THIS TEAM BRINGS TO PLACEMAKING. AND WE CODIFIED THAT IN THE PRIVATELY ENFORCED PATTERN BOOK THAT WE CREATED FOR THIS PROJECT. AND SO WHAT YOU SEE ON ON THE PAGES HERE ARE THOSE PAGES THAT DOCUMENT THAT FOR THE TEAM. AND THERE'S SEPARATE ZONES IN THE RETAIL ENVIRONMENT THAT THEY OVERSEE, AND THEY CONFIRM THAT THEIR TENANTS ARE GOING TO BEHAVE AND PROVIDE THE HIGHEST QUALITY EXPERIENCE. AND SO THEY HAVE A DISPLAY ZONE IN THE IN INSIDE THE STORE THAT THEY OVERLOOK, AND MAKE SURE THAT IT'S THAT THE MERCHANDISE IS PRESENTED IN A HIGH QUALITY WAY. THEY HAVE A FACADE ZONE THAT REGULATES HOW THE FACADES COME TOGETHER, HOW THE SIGNAGE IS PUT ON, HOW THE, HOW THE STOREFRONT IS OPENED UP, HOW YOU DO NOT BLOCK THE WINDOW WITH WITH POSTERS AND SUCH. AND THEN THEY HAVE WHAT THEY CALL THE STOREFRONT ACTIVITY ZONE. AND FOR RESTAURANTS, THAT ACTIVITY ZONE IS CAFE SEATING AND LIFE FOR RETAILERS THAT THEY PROVIDE RULES ON SANDWICH BOARDS AND ON HOW TO, AND HOW YOU CAN PUT

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AND OBVIOUSLY, THEY'RE ALREADY PROVIDING 33% OF THE SITE FOR PARKLAND. AND WE FELT IT WOULD BE A SHAME TO PUT ADDITIONAL PARKLAND THERE WHEN IT CREATES THE SURPRISE AS YOU ENTER THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THEN YOU GET EXPOSED TO THE PARKLAND BEYOND. SO THAT TO TIE THIS STREET TO THE STREET ACROSS THE WAY, WE FELT IT VERY IMPORTANT TO HAVE THESE TWO HOUSES, THESE TWO BOOKENDS ON THE AS A THRESHOLD FOR THAT STREET GOING EAST. YOU CAN SEE THE ARCHITECTURE THAT'S IN YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN, TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THE, WHAT CHARACTERISTICS, COMPRISE OF A HAMLET ARCHITECTURE, YOU KNOW, EXTERNAL CHIMNEYS, CRAFTED, OVERHANGS WITH WOOD. AND WE TOOK THAT WITH THE, WITH WORKING WITH YOUR CITY ARCHITECT AND TOOK THOSE ELEMENTS AND PUT IT INTO, FORMS THAT ARE MORE APPROPRIATE FOR NEW ALBANY. THAT WORKED WITH THE ARCHITECTURE, THE COLOR BRICK, THE COLOR MORTAR, THE TRIM COLORS THAT ARE, THAT, THAT ARE LESS TRENDY BUT HIT THE RIGHT NOTES FOR WHAT THIS COMMUNITY IS ABOUT. YEAH, AND THEN MOVING ACROSS THE WAY, THE INTIMATE ARCHITECTURE, WE LOOKED AT VERNACULAR ARCHITECTURE FOR THE PROJECT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WANT TO COMPETE WITH THE VILLAGE CENTER. WE WANTED A COMMUNITY THAT WAS A LITTLE SOFTER, THAT HAD NOTES THAT FELT A LITTLE MORE CASUAL, AS JUSTIN HAD MENTIONED, TO, TO WHAT'S GOING ON HERE IN THE VILLAGE CENTER. SO WHILE WE DID GRAB SOME FORMS, THIS WAS IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN AS WELL. THIS IS RICHMOND SQUARE, AND WE BROUGHT THAT INTO THE ONE ROW OF TOWNHOMES ALONG 605. WE MARRIED THAT WITH OTHER, VERTICAL DEVELOPERS ACROSS THE WAY TO GET A LITTLE BIT OF VARIETY AND SOFTEN, WHAT COULD OTHERWISE BE A VERY HARD, REGIMENTED PRESENCE IF YOU JUST KEPT RUNNING THAT SAME TOWNHOME. SO WE BROUGHT IT TOGETHER WITH A VARIETY OF OTHER TYPES AND HOW WE DID THAT IS WE CREATED IN THE PATTERN BOOK, A SORT OF GOLDILOCKS PATTERN, WHERE WE

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AND SO WE WANTED TO GET WHAT WAS JUST RIGHT FOR THE HAMLET. AND SO, IT'S BRICK, SOFT WINDOWS, NOT NECESSARILY SHUTTERS CERTAINLY TAKE, TAKING OFF SOME OF THE ORNATE ELEMENTS THAT YOU MIGHT FIND HERE IN THE VILLAGE CENTER, BUT CREATING A SOFTER VERSION OF IT FOR THE HAMLET. SO IT FELT APPROPRIATE FOR THAT JUNCTURE. AND GAVE IT AN APPROPRIATE RELATIONSHIP TO THE VILLAGE CENTER. AND SO THEN WE STARTED SCALING THE BUILDINGS DOWN. SO IN THE, IN THE, IN THE COMMERCIAL CORE, THE BUILDINGS ARE BROKEN DOWN. THESE ARE GOOD COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS. THESE ALLOW FOR FLEXIBILITY WITHIN THEIR GROUND FLOOR, BUT AT THE SAME TIME HAVE A SCALE THAT IS MORE INTIMATE, AND THEN THIS, VIEW ON THE LEFT IS OF THE FLATS BUILDING, LOOKING INTO THE PROJECT FROM 605, SHOWING HOW IT'S INCREMENTAL TO BE AN APPROPRIATE SCALE TO THE TOWNHOMES ACROSS THE WAY. AND THEN FINALLY, THE PROJECT THAT EMBRACES NATURE. I THINK WE'VE COVERED THAT ALREADY IN TERMS OF WHAT JUSTIN AND I HAVE SAID. SO HERE'S THE PLAN THAT SHOWS YOU HOW IT TIES TO NATURE, THIS PLAN WILL BE THE ONE OF THE MOST PET FRIENDLY PROJECTS IN IN NEW ALBANY AND PROBABLY THE COUNTRY. I MEAN, THIS WILL STAND FOR HOW MUCH OHIO CITIZENS LOVE THEIR PETS, RIGHT? AND SO YOU COULD SEE THE NUMBER OF ROUTES THAT YOU CAN TAKE THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT EVERY DAY. IF YOU LIVE HERE, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE A VARIETY OF, OF DIFFERENT WAYS TO GO AND, AND DO THAT WALK IN THE MORNING AND NIGHT WITH YOUR WITH YOUR DOG OR CAT. AND LET'S JUST GET INTO THE ARCHITECTURE A LITTLE BIT. WE LOOKED AT A LOT OF PRECEDENTS THAT CAME FROM YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN. WE LOOKED AT WILLIAMSBURG. HERE'S SOME EXAMPLES FOR THE RETAIL. WE LOOKED AT IRON, WHICH ALSO HAS A SOFTER CORE OF COMMERCIAL BUILDING THAT WE BROUGHT TOGETHER TO COME UP WITH THE ARCHITECTURE THAT REPRESENTED THE BUILDINGS IN THE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, AND I CAN TALK ABOUT THAT LATER. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, AND THEN WHEN YOU SEGUE AWAY FROM THAT, YOU GET TO DIFFERENT THE DIFFERENT PARKLETS. SO THIS IS THE FIRST PARKLET TO THE NORTHWEST WITH THE RED MAPLES IN THE CIRCLE AROUND THE ARC OF THE STREET. IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS IS THE SECOND NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE NORTHEAST IN, SUB AREA TO, WITH THE GREEN, IN THE HEART OF IT, WITH THE TREES AT THE NORTH. AND THEN IT OPENS UP TO THE LAWN, WITH THE MALE PAVILION AT THE FAR END, THIS IS THE FLATS BUILDING WE TALKED ABOUT ALREADY, AND THEN THE TOWNHOMES BEHIND THAT ON 605, AGAIN, TO CROSSING THE STREET TO SUBAREA THREE WITH THE DUPLEXES, THAT SOFTEN TO THE SINGLE FAMILY AS YOU SEGUE AWAY FROM THE CORE.

AND THEN FINALLY THE SINGLE FAMILY TO THE SOUTH, WHICH THE PATTERN BOOK STANDARDS ARE MODELED UPON. ELY CROSSINGS. AND THAT'S IT. THAT WASN'T TOO BAD. I WAS GONNA TRY TO CUT THEM OFF IN A MINUTE OR TWO, BUT, SO THAT GIVES YOU A LITTLE KIND OF THE BACKSTORY OF HOW WE GOT TO WHERE WE ARE. AND NOW KIND OF GOING TO THE POLAR OPPOSITE. NOW WE GET INTO THE NUANCE MINUTIA. AARON WILL KIND OF TALK ABOUT IT AND THEN I WILL KIND OF RUN THROUGH EACH ONE IN A LITTLE MORE DETAI.

THIS WON'T BE NEARLY AS INTERESTING, SO I'LL BE BRIEF, AARON UNDERHILL AT THE UNDERHILL AND HODGE ATTORNEY FOR THE APPLICANT AT 8000 WALTON PARKWAY HERE IN NEW ALBANY. JUST A QUICK AND BRIEF. COMMENT ON THE WAIVERS. THE WAIVER SECTION OF THIS PUD WAS VERY INTENTIONAL, AND WE WROTE IT. WE TOOK IT FROM THE URBAN CENTER CODE, WHICH THIS THIS COMMISSION DOESN'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH. BUT, WAIVERS ARE REALLY A MUCH, LESSER STANDARD LEGALLY, AS COMPARED TO A VARIANCE. WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF EXAMPLES OF VARIANCES THIS EVENING. THE DUNCAN FOR MIDDLEFIELD FACTORS ARE VERY TECHNICAL, AND REQUIRE YOU TO CHECK A LOT OF BOXES. THE WAIVERS ARE MUCH LOOSER. THERE'S FEWER OF THEM. BUT REALLY IT'S INTENDED TO RECOGNIZE THAT IN THESE SPACES WHERE YOU HAVE A LITTLE MORE DENSITY THAN IS TYPICAL IN A SUBURBAN FARM FIEL, AND YOU HAVE TIGHTER SPACES THAT WHERE A MATTER OF FEET AND INCHES MATTER, THAT THERE'S SOME DEFERENCE GIVEN TO DESIGN OVER TECHNICAL TECHNICALITIES IN THE CODE. AND SO AS JUSTIN WALKS YOU THROUGH THESE, I JUST WANTED YOU TO KIND OF KEEP THAT IN MIND THS MUCH LOWER THAN THE VARIANCE.

THANK YOU. SO TAKING THESE ONE BY ONE, I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE KIND OF KNOW QUICK FROM CHRIS, BUT, STARTING WITH WAIVER A, AGAIN, THIS WE ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE FOUR FOOT SIDEWALKS ON THE PRIVATE LAND. THIS GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE IT IN THE PUBLIC AREAS. AND SO AS INSPIRATION, WHEN WE LOOKED AT ASHTON GROVE, THERE'S A PROJECT ACTUALLY WHERE BRIAN LIVES

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AND SO, REALLY, THAT ONE WAS REALLY THE MAIN DRIVER WE COULD HAVE SQUEEZED IN THE DUPLEXES HERE AS REQUIRED. BUT THEN WE FELT FROM A KIND OF APPROPRIATE ENTRY AND FRAMING THE CORNERS, HAVING A MATCHING SINGLE FAMILY HOME ON EACH SIDE WOULD BE BETTER VERSUS MAKING A DUPLEX HERE. AND THEN THE SINGLE FAMIL. SO AS WE LOOKED AT THAT AND GIVEN THE SITE HAVING THOSE MATCHING SINGLE FAMILY HOME, IT WAS A REALLY NICE ENTRY SEQUENCE INTO THE INTO THE PROJECT WAIVER. SEE AGAIN, THIS IS THE 44 FOOT HEIGHT AND IT'S HARD TO SEE ON THIS. BUT AGAIN, WITH THE WAY THE SITE SLOPES DOWN, ON THESE FRONTAGES, THOSE ARE TWO AND A HALF STORY EXPRESSIONS AND SO THE ENTRY IS INTO THE SECOND LEVEL. AND ACTUALLY THE FRONT IS ABOUT 36FT IN HEIGHT. AND THEN WHEN YOU DO KIND OF THE AVERAGE HEIGHT OF THE FOUR CORNERS TO GET TO 40, THAT MEANS THE BACK IS 44. SO THAT EXPOSED 44, THE FRONT 36. AND THEN INSTEAD OF HAVING THIS BASED ON THE SLOPE HAVING TO DROP THAT TO 40 AND THEN JUMPING BACK UP TO 50 IN OTHER LOCATIONS, WE FELT GOING WITH 44 ALL THE WAY ACROSS, SETTING THAT DATA POINT AND THEN FORGOING THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO 50, THAT WAS THE APPROPRIATE DESIGN SOLUTION. GIVEN THAT SITE CONDITION. AND THEN, JUMPING TO D, AGAIN, THIS IS THE, THE TWO, THE TWO STEPS, THESE ARE ALL SLAB CONSTRUCTION. SO IT WAS A CHALLENGING DETAIL TO TRY TO ATTEMPT THAT. ALSO WITH THE WAY THE GRADING WORKS, WE WERE JUST CONSTRAINED WITH THE ABILITY TO KEEP, TO HAVE TOO MUCH HEIGHT. ALSO, AS WE LOOKED AT THE PRECEDENCE OF HAMLETS AGAIN, THAT KIND OF UNIQUE SITE CONDITION OF THE DESIRE FOR THIS TO BE A HAMLET AND WHAT WAS PROPOSED, ALL OF THE EXAMPLES WE LOOKED AT ALWAYS HAD ONLY 1 OR 2 STEPS. AND SO WE FELT THAT AGAIN WAS APPROPRIATE. AND ALSO KIND OF SET UP FOR A GREAT STREET ENVIRONMENT. AND THEN THE LAST ONE, WAIVER E THAT 10,000FT■!S AGAIN, I THINK WE'VE CONTINUED TO REFINE THAT SPECIFIC WAIVER. IT IS NOT OUR INTENT, AS ORIGINALLY WAS, TO PROVIDE TO PREVENT BIG BOXES. WE JUST HAVE ABOUT 20 ZERO ZERO ZERO SQUARE FEET OF SECOND FLOOR OFFICE SPACE. AND SO AS WE'VE BEEN TALKING TO TENANTS AND THEY WANT 12,000 OR THEY WANT SOME GROUND FLOOR SPACE AND SOME UPPER FLOOR SPACE, WE STARTED RUNNING INTO THAT UNIQUE CONDITION AT THIS SITE. AND SO AGAIN, WE TWEAKED THAT LANGUAGE TO SAY WE ALL AGREE. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THE GROUND FLOOR HAS A GREAT PEDESTRIAN MIXED USE ENVIRONMENT. AND FEEL. AND SO WE'VE KIND OF PUT THAT EXTRA CONDITION ON OURSELVES WITH WITH CHRIS AND THE CITY STAFF TO, TO MAKE SURE WE'RE MAINTAINING THAT THAT ORIGINAL INTENT AND THAT IS ALL THE WAIVERS. AND WE'RE CERTAINLY WE'VE GOT THE WHOLE TEAM HERE TO FOR QUESTIONS. OKAY. A LOT OF THESE HAVE A AND I HAVE ARCHITECTURE WITH DORMER WINDOWS IN THE ROOF LINE. IS THAT HABITABLE SPACE IN ANY OF

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IT'S, THERE ARE, ONCE YOU GET THROUGH THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE NUMBER OF STREET TREES, AND JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE THE ESTHETIC THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, THAT'S WHERE WE END UP. I DON'T HAVE AN EXACT NUMBER, BUT IT IS UPWARDS OF 500. JUST TO CHIME INTO THAT, I THINK WE'VE WE'VE MIGHT MENTIONED I CAN'T REMEMBER WHO I'VE TOLD OR NOT, SO WE HAVE SURVEYED AS MANY TREES ALONG THE STREET AS, AS WE COULD, WE'VE IDENTIFIED THE HEALTH OF ALL OF THOSE, AND THEN THOSE KEY TREES, THOSE SIGNATURE ONES, WE'VE HAD ARBORISTS OUT AND ACTUALLY DO MUCH MORE DETAILED TESTING TO CONFIRM THEIR HEALTH, AND SO WE ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE WORKING WITH THE ARBORISTS AND OUR GENERAL CONTRACTORS ON A TREE PROTECTION STRATEGY, FOR SPECIFICALLY THOSE SPECIMEN TREES, BUT THEN ALSO AS MANY AS WE CAN ALONG THE, ALONG THE STREAM. WE KNOW FORTUNATELY, THERE WILL BE TREES THAT COME DOWN DURING THIS PROCESS. BUT, YOU KNOW, ADDING BACK 500 OR WE'RE HOPING TO CONTINUE THAT APPROPRIATE BALANCE THERE. YEAH. AND WHOEVER'S TAKING NOTES ON YOUR SIDE, I DIRECT YOU TO THE RESERVES ON REYNOLDSBURG, NEW ALBANY, JUST PUT THOSE IN AND THEY SAVED 4048 ACRES OF TREES WHERE ONLY THE MINIMUM CUTS WERE DONE IN THROUGH THERE, THEY USED A LOT OF SNOW FENCE. OKAY. AS THEIR FIRST LINE OF DEFENSE SO THAT IT WAS OKAY, THIS TO KEEP THE HEAVY EQUIPMENT FROM ACCIDENTALLY GETTING UNDER THE DRIP LINE OF EVERYTHING THEY WERE SAVING. YES, WE'VE ACTUALLY I WAS TALKING TO OUR INTERNAL CONSTRUCTION TEAM ABOUT SPECIFICALLY THOSE SPECIMEN TREES AND EVEN MORE ENHANCED, FENCING STRATEGY TO PROTECT THEIR DRIP LINE. GREAT THE SO THE NEXT THE LAST PAGE ON THE BIG FAT FOLDER HAS GOT THINGS LIKE THE STREET LIGHTS ON THERE, AND WE HAVE TWO STREET LIGHTS SHOWN THERE, ONE OF THEM IS WHAT I REFER TO AS THE STICK, AND THE OTHER IS SORT OF THE CANDY CANE, IF THAT HELPS. SO IT'S THE NEXT TO LAST SHEET OF THE FAT FOLDER. SO WHAT CAN WE DO WITHOUT THE STICK? IT DOESN'T DOWNCAST

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YES SO THERE SPECIFIC TO CERTAIN STREETS. SO A, B AND C, YES. YEAH, THE, THE STICK AS YOU, AS YOU CALL IT, REMINISCENT OF WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE, IN THE VILLAGE CENTER, AND THEN I GOT THREE THAT SHINE IN MY BEDROOM WINDOW. AND SO THE, THE DESIRE IS MORE OF A DARK SKY CUT OFF DOWN FOR CAST. YEAH. WITHIN A STILL FIND THAT IN A IN A IN A FIXTURE THAT LOOKS MORE LIKE THIS. YEAH. I'M AFTER RESULTS OF DARK SKY. I DON'T CARE HOW YOU GET THERE, BUT.

OKAY. CAN WE AGREE THAT THAT WHATEVER FIXTURE IT IS WILL BE DOWNWARD? SURE. I HAVE, STREET LIGHTS WITH BETTER DOWN CASTING, SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL IS WHAT'S GOING TO GO INTO MY CONDITION. OKAY, I THINK THAT WOULD. THAT WOULD WORK FOR US. YES. OKAY ON THE WAIVERS, WE TALKED ABOUT SOME THINGS. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE BAKED IN THE WAY THEY WERE PRESENTED. SO THE LIMITS OF THE FOUR FOOT SIDEWALK ARE ALREADY DELINEATED. AND THAT'S PART OF THE WAIVER. YES, YES. SO THAT'S ALREADY THERE. JUST MAKING SURE IT'S ALREADY THERE.

AND I DON'T NEED A NEW CONDITION. YEP, AND YOU MENTIONED ABOUT IN WAIVER B THAT THE ONE LOT WOULD BE SORT OF ENCLOSED. IT WOULD. YEAH, WE DID ACTUALLY. AND IT DOESN'T SHOW UP VERY WELL. YEAH. SO WE STARTED TO ILLUSTRATE THAT BETTER. WE ARE PROPOSING A THREE FOOT BRICK WALL, THAT WILL HELP DEFINE THE PUBLIC AND PRIVATE REALM IN THAT LOCATION. WE WENT ROUND AND ROUND ON THIS ONE, ACTUALLY, WITH KEITH, KEITH, INITIALLY WE WERE TALKING ABOUT A MORE FORMAL GROVE OF TREES IN THIS AREA. SIMILAR TO THOSE. AND THEN AS WE KIND OF WORK THROUGH IT WITH THE MCCSC AND OURSELVES, IT BECAME A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMAL. AND THEN LETTING THAT BRICK WALL KIND OF BE THE TRANSITION OF, OKAY, HERE'S THE FORMAL TRANSITION INTO THE HOUSE, AND THEN YOU TRANSITION TO THE SOUTH TO BEING A LITTLE BIT MORE NATURAL IN THE WAY THAT'S PLACED IN LANDSCAPED. SO ANYWAY, IT WOULD BE THAT WE HAVE CLEAR DELINEATION OF THE PUBLIC PRIVATE BOUNDARY ON THE HOUSE YARD. YES. OKAY WE STARTED TO WORK ON LANDSCAPING, BUT WE THERE WAS OTHER THINGS WE, YOU KNOW, IN THE PAST DAY OR TWO, WE DIDN'T GET TO THAT ONE. IT TOOK THREE TRIES TO GET LAND AND PARK RIGHT BEFORE WE GOT THE PARK. CLEARLY, CLEARLY SEPARATED, OKAY, WHILE WE'RE ON THE HOUSES, THE IT DOESN'T TALK ABOUT THE SCALE OF THE HOUSES. THE VISUAL THAT YOU PUT UP THERE LOOKS FINE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SIZE IS ABOUT SIMILAR TO A TOWNHOME. I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT YOU HAD IN MIND IF YOU COULD SPEAK TO THAT. YEAH. SO OUR INTENT IS THAT EVERYTHING ALONG 605 AND CENTRAL COLLEGE HAS THAT TWO AND A HALF STORY EXPRESSION. SO THE ALSO WOULD HAVE NO MORE THAN TWO AND A HALF TO AGAIN HAVE A SIMILAR HEIGHT, MATCHING THE WEST SIDE OF THE STREET AND THE WIDTH WOULD BE LIKE THREE TOWNHOMES WIDER. IT WOULD BE IN SCALE, IN SCALE WITH THE TOWN. SO THEY SO WE COULD SAY LIKE SIMILAR SIZE AND SCALE TO THE TOWN ADJACENT TOWN. THESE ARE DEFINITELY WIDER, THEY'RE A BIGGER UNIT THAN THE TOWNHOMES.

SO THEY ARE A LITTLE BIT WIDER. I TRYING TO FIGURE OUT. SO THERE PROJECT 605 TO THE MIC PLEASE.

THE PIECE THAT'S FRONTING 605 IS ROUGHLY THE SCALE OF THE TOWNHOUSES. AND THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET TO. AND THEN IT HAS A LITTLE L SHAPE AND THEN IT WIDENS AS IT GETS ONTO THE SIDE STREET. SO I THINK WE DO MEET THE INTENT YOU'RE TRYING TO EXPRESS. YES AND MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING ABOUT VERBIAGE, ABOUT THE FRONTAGE ON 605 IS OF SIMILAR HEIGHT AND SCALE OF THE

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BECAUSE I THINK, ONE THING WE WORK THROUGH IS, YOU KNOW, SUBAREA FIVE HAS A MORE FLEXIBILITY, YOU KNOW, SINGLE FAMILY AND DUPLEXES DO NOT REQUIRE AS MUCH REVIEW. SO THAT'S WHY IT'S MORE INSPIRATIONAL, EVEN THOUGH THIS IS ALSO SINGLE FAMILY AND DUPLEXES, THE WAY THE ZONING TEXT WAS WRITTEN, WE HAD TO ACCELERATE THE PROCESS AND WORK WITH OUR PARTNER ON THIS ONE TO COME UP WITH ACTUAL DETAILED ELEVATIONS AND ARCHITECTURE. THE ONE CHALLENGE CANDIDLY, THESE ARE CUSTOM HOMES. AND SO THERE IS THE POTENTIAL THAT AS THE BUYERS ARE WORKING THROUGH THE CUSTOM DESIGN PROCESS AND THE CUSTOM CONSTRUCTION PROCESS, THAT THERE MAY BE MINOR TWEAKS. OUR INTENT IS STILL TO HAVE A CONSISTENT ARCHITECTURE ALONG THOSE MAIN STREETS. BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE MIGHT BE SLIGHT MODIFICATIONS IN THE, IN THE ARCHITECTURE AS THAT'S GETTING 100% FINALIZED. OKAY. AND THE WAIVER ON TWO FEET ABOVE GRADE, WE TALKED ABOUT TWO STEPS. WHAT DOES THE WAIVER GIVE YOU THE ABILITY TO BUILD AT GRADE, ENTRANCE AT GRADE, I SHOULD SAY NO, NO, NO. WELL, COMMERCIAL TASK IS SO WE MEET ADA RESIDENTIAL FOR THE RESIDENTIAL. RESIDENTIAL. RESIDENTIAL IS NOT ALLOWED TO BE AT GRADE. CORRECT.

SO THERE WILL BE TWO STEPS. TWO STEPS? THAT'S A 14 FOOT RAMP. IF SOME HOMEOWNER NEEDS A RAMP. THE STEPS ARE ABOUT SEVEN INCHES IN. RISE ON A STANDARD STAIRCASE. LAST I CHECKED, AND THAT'S 14IN, WHICH IS 14FT OF RAMP. WHERE DO WE PUT 14FT OF RAMP WOULD HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED INSIDE THE INSIDE THE UNIT. OKAY. DO THEY HAVE ACCESS AT SOME PLACE I IF I'M IN A WHEELCHAIR FOR SOME REASON. OKAY. SAY PERMANENTLY, DO I? I'M TRYING TO SEE IF WE'VE GOT A REASONABLE SOLUTION ON ACCESS THAT STILL WORKS. I DON'T HAVE A SOLID ANSWER FOR THAT RIGHT NOW. IT'S THERE IS FRONTAGE THERE TO PUT A RAMP INTO THE SITE SPECIFIC DESIGN FOR THAT. FOR EXAMPLE, ALL OF THE PERIMETER WALLS HAVE PLENTY OF PUNCH. I'M SORRY. SO ALL THE HOMES ON 605 AND CENTRAL COLLEGE HAVE PLENTY OF FRONTAGE. THERE WOULD BE NO NO ISSUE IF YOU NEEDED TO PUT A LONGER RAMP IN, IN THE MIDST OF THE PROJECT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PROJECT, THERE'S ALWAYS ROOM TO DO A SIDE RAMP. IF YOU HAD TO TURN IT, TURN IT SIDEWAYS AND BUT, THAT THAT'S THAT. I MEAN, IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE THE WAIVER EASIER TO FOR THEY WILL PROBABLY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF BRINGING THE HOMES DOWN. AND SO I THINK THE TWO STEPS IS A GOOD AVERAGE TO GET YOU AT 12 IF IT'S SEVEN INCHES.

YES. BUT IF IT'S SIX INCHES THEN IT'S A 12 FOOT RAMP. RIGHT SO, STAFF, DO YOU WANT TO COMMENT ON SOME OF THAT? TWO STEPS VERSUS ACCESSIBILITY. WHERE ARE WE. YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK AS WE MENTIONED IN THE STAFF REPORT AND IN OUR PRESENTATION, THERE HAVE BEEN INSTANCES WHERE ADA ACCESSIBILITY HAS BEEN A CONCERN OF THE BOARD, CITY COUNCIL AND CITY STAFF AND DEVIATIONS HAVE BEEN ALLOWED AT THE MARKET RATE. APARTMENTS AT EPCON AND NOTTINGHAM TRACE, I THINK WE'D BE WILLING TO WORK WITH THE APPLICANT TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING CREATIVE IF, YOU KNOW, THERE WEREN'T STEPS TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE THOSE DOORS ARE DRESSED UP APPROPRIATELY. THANK YOU. WE WOULD CERTAINLY WELCOME THE FLEXIBILITY. THIS I MIGHT NOT BE UNDERSTANDING EXACTLY

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IS SOME OF THE SPACE IN THERE THREE STORIES, OR IS IT ALL TWO STORY SPACE IN THAT SUB AREA? THIS AREA IS TWO STORIES. IT'S ALL TWO STORIES. SO. SO AT LEAST 50% OF THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE ON THE GROUND FLOOR OF THAT TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE. IS THAT FAIR STATEMENT, CURRENTLY BALLPARK.

THERE'S 20 ZERO ZERO ZERO SQUARE FEET. AND ON UPPER LEVELS, WHICH IS BETWEEN TWO BUILDINGS. OKAY.

SO WHICH IN YOUR CURRENT SCENARIO WOULD FIT 30 200 ZERO SQUARE FEET ON THE GROUND LEVEL? CORRECT. MY, MY CONCERN IS, IS I WANTED TO MAKE SURE AT LEAST 50% OF THE REQUIRED MINIMUM WOULD BE ON THE GROUND LEVEL, WHICH IT SOUNDS LIKE, BECAUSE YOU COULD ONLY GO TWO STORIES HIGH. IT'S NOT AN ISSUE FOR ME THAT YOU'RE FINE. I JUST WANTED TO TALK THAT THROUGH. GOTCHA I'M GOOD WITH THAT. OTHERS. NOT FOR ME. I'LL JUST JUMP IN, KIND OF FOLLOWING THAT. AND THIS MAY HAVE BEEN, EXCUSE ME, A COMMENT THAT CHRIS MADE IN HIS PRESENTATION IN THAT SAME AREA. THE WAIVER, THE WAIVER FROM THE ARB, COULD SOME OF THE OFFICE SPACE BE ON THE FIRST FLOOR? IT IS POSSIBLE.

YES. OKAY. AND BECAUSE CHRIS MADE A COMMENT ABOUT, I BELIEVE, LIKE 20% OF IT COULD BE ALMOST LIKE A LOBBY SPACE, BUT TECHNICALLY PROBABLY THAT 20% COULD BE OFFICE SPACE. IT COULD BE. YES. OKAY. AND CANDIDLY, ONE OF THE CHALLENGES GOING NOT A CHALLENGE, BUT GOING FORWARD, YOU KNOW, OFFICE SPACE TAKES A DIFFERENT LOOK IS WHAT WE'RE SEEING. SO IN SOME INSTANCES, OFFICE SPACE IS AS ENGAGING AND WELCOMING AS, AS, AS RESTAURANTS. I MEAN, WE EVEN AT EASTON, WE HAVE SOME OFFICE ON, ON THE GROUND FLOOR, RIGHT ON TOP, RIGHT AT A FOUNTAIN

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IS WHAT LIKE I KNOW IT'S NOT APPROVED, BUT WHAT'S THE IS THE IS IT GOING TO HAPPEN IS WHAT'S THE TIMING AND COULD THAT SHOULD THAT AND COULD THAT BE A CONDITION TO HELP MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT THE, THE PROPER SLOWING. SO YEAH. SO THE CITY COUNCIL'S MEETING EVEN JUST TOMORROW AND THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE YEAR TO DO A CAPITAL BUDGET RETREAT, THIS WOULD HAVE TO COME FROM OUR CAPITAL, OUR, THE CAPITAL PORTION OF OUR CITY BUDGET IN ORDER TO FUND FUND THESE PROJECTS. WE'VE WORKED WITH THE DEVELOPER TO GET ESTIMATES TOGETHER FOR THE BURIAL OF THE, YOU KNOW, OVERHEAD UTILITIES. AND THEN AT THE STREETSCAPE, STREETSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS ON THERE AS WELL. SO IT WOULD HAVE TO BE THAT CITY COUNCIL'S DETERMINATION TO GET

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OKAY DON'T LEAVE THE MEETING WITHOUT ME TELLING YOU. WELL, I SHOULD JUST SAY IT. THE. WE HAVE A LEFT TURN LANE ON US 62 NORTH OF THOMPSON AND SOUTH OF WHATEVER THE ROAD IS JUST BELOW LAMPTON PARK. AND THERE'S A LEFT TURN LANE THAT WILL NEVER BE USED FOR ANYTHING. CAN THAT BE TURNED INTO A BOULEVARD? YOU'VE GOT A LEFT TURN LANE AT THOMPSON AND YOU HAVE A LEFT TURN LANE AT THE ROAD. I FORGET WHAT IT IS. IT GOES INTO THE COUNTRY CLUB BELOW LAMPTON PARK AND SO YOU'VE GOT THE STRIPED OUT AND THE NEW PAVEMENT, AND THEN YOU'VE GOT THIS ZONE FOR, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY FEET THAT IS, ONE LEFT TURN LANE WIDE. AND WE'RE NEVER GOING TO USE IT. CAN WE PUT TREES THERE WHICH WOULD ALSO SOFTEN THE AIRWAY. IS A COUNCIL MATTER NOT LET'S GET THIS. LET'S GET THIS PROJECT BEHIND US AND THE SKY'S THE LIMIT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. SORRY SORRY TO. IT'S BEEN ON MY LIST EVER SINCE THE NEW PAVEMENT WENT DOWN. ANYONE IS BACK TO HEAR ME, OKAY? NOT FOR ME. ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WITH QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF SO, COME TO THE MIC, GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND ASK. WOW. OKAY I WAS EXPECTING A LOT MORE FOLKS. COME ON WE GO. SO LET ME FIND MY. I MOVE TO ACCEPT THE STAFF REPORTS AND RELATED DOCUMENTS INTO THE RECORD FOR FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN 53 2024. DO I HEAR A SECOND ON THE DOCUMENTS MOTION? I WILL SECOND, DID WE GET ANY NEW DOCUMENTS TONIGHT OR. IT'S ALL BEEN IN THE PACKAGE. I DID GIVE YOU THAT LIST OF CONDITIONS THAT I THOUGHT THAT WAS ECHOED SOMEWHERE IN HERE FROM. OKAY INCLUDING THAT SHEET. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? CLEAR THE ROLL, PLEASE, MR. KIRBY? YES, MR. LARSON? YES MR. SHELL? YES, MISS BRIGGS? YES. THE MOTION PASSES. THERE ARE FOUR VOTES TO ADMIT THE DOCUMENTS, INCLUDING THE DOCUMENT DISTRIBUTED BY PLANNER CHRISTIAN. THANK YOU. I MOVE FOR APPROVAL ON FILE DEVELOPMENT PLAN 53 2024. SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS IN THE STAFF REPORT AND ADDITIONALLY CONDITION FOUR, FOR ITEMS SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL, THE ADDITIONAL MATERIALS SUBMITTED CAN BE USED AS A GUIDE IF STAFF WISHES. OKA.

FIVE, STREET LIGHTS, LOOKING FOR SOMETHING THAT IS, BETTER DOWNCASTING THAN THE STICK.

SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL. SIX ON WAIVER. BE CLEAR DELINEATION OF THE PUBLIC PRIVATE BOUNDARY ON THE HOUSE YARDS WAIVER. BE DO YOU WANT TO DO THE WAIVERS INDEPENDENTLY AS YOU GO, ONE AT A TIME. WHAT? I WAS GOING TO INTEGRATE ALL OF THEM IN THE MOTION FOR THE THING UNLESS COUNCIL, UNLESS THE COMMISSION PREFERS OTHERWISE. I WOULD HAVE DONE IT ALL TOGETHER, BUT DEFERRED AS A PACKAGE. DO WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT? LEGALLY, WE'RE FINE WITH THAT.

OKAY CLEAR DELINEATION OF PUBLIC, PRIVATE, OF THE PUBLIC, PRIVATE BOUNDARY. THANK YOU. ON THE HOUSE YARD. SEVEN, THE SCALE OF THE HOUSES SUBJECT TO WAIVER BE, BE MATCHED TO THE 605 FRONTAGE AS DISCUSSE. AS YOU WOULD SAY IN SUB AREA THREE. JUST TO BE CLEAR, OR

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OKAY. IN OTHER WORDS, STAFF CAN ENFORCE THOSE IF THEY WISH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NUMBER FIVE, STREET LIGHTS WITH BETTER DOWNCASTING THAN A STICK. SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL. YEP.

REGARDING WAIVER B, CONDITION SIX, CLEAR DELINEATION OF PUBLIC PRIVATE BOUNDARY ON THE HOUSE YARD. YES REGARDING WAIVER B, CONDITION SEVEN SCALE OF THE HOUSE IS TO BE MATCHED WITH 605 FRONTAGE. REGARDING WAIVER D CONDITION EIGHT TWO STEPS CAN BE TO THE TWO STEP MINIMUM CAN BE RELAXED FOR ACCESSIBILITY CONDITION NINE INCLUDING THE A OR B CONDITIONS SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL, AND ALSO NOTING THAT THIS INCLUDES THE WAIVERS AS AMENDED BY THESE CONDITIONS. YES I TOTALLY CHALLENGE YOU TO IMPRESS THE DAYLIGHTS OUT OF US. CONGRATULATIONS. CONGRATULATIONS EVERYBODY. GOOD JOB. BEFORE YOU ALL LEAVE, I JUST. CAN I JUST SAY SOMETHING? POINT OF PRIVILEGE. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I, I'VE LIVED WITH THIS PROJECT FOR SO LONG, AND, I FEEL LIKE WE'VE LEARNED SO MUCH, AND I WANT TO REALLY THANK ALL THE RESIDENTS WHO CAME OUT, ESPECIALLY TRICIA SANTINI, WHO'S SITTING HERE TO WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER TO MAKE THIS PROJECT BETTER. I FEEL LIKE THIS DEVELOPER DID. YOU ALL DID SUCH A GREAT JOB WORKING WITH THOSE RESIDENTS. STAFF, HATS OFF TO YOU. ALL THE HARD WORK THAT YOU DID, BUT I FEEL LIKE THIS PROCESS MADE US A BETTER COMMUNITY BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE WE HAD A MORE INFORMED RESIDENTIAL BASE THAT WAS WILLING TO ENGAGE IN THESE MEETINGS. LIKE I HAVE NEVER SEEN. AND I THINK OUR STAFF LEARNED A LOT. AND I JUST I JUST WANT TO CONGRATULATE EVERYBODY AND THANK YOU FOR STICKING THROUGH THIS PROCESS TOGETHER. AND PLEASE DO IT IN FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS TOO. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER BUSINESS BEFORE THE COMMISSION TONIGHT FOR MEMBERS FOR COMMENT? I THINK WE JUST GOT HIM HERE. I'M SORRY. SARAH, NOTHING FOR ME. NO THANKS. NO COMMENT. GOOD JOB EVERYBODY. NO FURTHER COMMENT. AND WITH THAT

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